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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, August 23 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday August. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Happy Hours brought you by Ashley Home Store. Now a
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Speaker 1: guy whose waistline is suffering from severe hypertrophe. J P.
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Speaker 1: Shaderrick was good good, It was not so good. The
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Speaker 1: game plan was great, we just didn't execute. Welcome in
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Our presented by Ashley Home Store. J P. Shadrick,
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Speaker 1: Jeff Loguman, Tony but Sally put it to get to tonight,
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Speaker 1: we'll go through some defensive talk before you go. Can
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Speaker 1: I get to what we're getting to know? Offensive talk?
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Speaker 1: A little later, we'll go around the league because you
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Speaker 1: know what, we gotta explain what he was talking about.
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Speaker 1: Go ahead, can we do that? Go ahead? Okay? What
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Speaker 1: was your term, Joe? Hypertrophy? Okay, And we learned today
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Speaker 1: what hypertrophee is. This could be a tease moment. This
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Speaker 1: is a very teasable moment. Okay, what is what is
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Speaker 1: that word? I'm not going to try to say. Well,
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Speaker 1: we had a conversation today with Dr Kevin Kaplan, the
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Speaker 1: head team position for the Jaguars hyperthree hypertrophy. Hypertrophy is
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Speaker 1: like U hypertrophee. Hyer I don't know what that means.
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Speaker 1: We'll find out. Essentially, when you strain your muscle in
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Speaker 1: order for your muscle to grow, so it's not like
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Speaker 1: a strain in a bad way as an injury. It
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Speaker 1: is like, so you lift weights, well you used to, okay,
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Speaker 1: and then your muscles would get sore. The circulation into
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Speaker 1: the microphone radio, it's it's just a matter of straining
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Speaker 1: the muscles to where they become bigger in response. But
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Speaker 1: they're not getting injured. So hypertrophy is good. Okay, unless
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Speaker 1: it's your waistline. It's not a muscle there, waistline. I'm
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Speaker 1: actually I've actually lost weight, so that's inaccurate. But what
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Speaker 1: was the context of this hyperthoxy We're talking about a
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Speaker 1: soft tissue entries. It was actually pretty good. So we'll
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Speaker 1: hear it on Saturday. Saturday, so now you can go
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Speaker 1: ahead of the offense defense because because a lot of
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Speaker 1: people are going, what did he say and why is
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Speaker 1: that funny? I was like, oh, okay, you just like
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Speaker 1: right past it, assuming like people knew what it was.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't do that, thank you. I'll learn
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Speaker 1: my lesson. We won't do that ever again. Questioning your
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Speaker 1: radio acumen. Next time he brings up a medical topic
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Speaker 1: like that, we'll go into it. He said it correctly,
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Speaker 1: It was used in the correct context. You didn't mispronounce
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Speaker 1: it or anything. It's a miracle, all right to talk
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Speaker 1: to talk about today, Um, Doug Marone discussing Miles Jack
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Speaker 1: will get to Blake Bortles coming up. And yes, Letterard
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Speaker 1: for Nett spoke with the media today in the locker room.
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Speaker 1: Yes he did. We'll hear from the running back coming up.
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Speaker 1: You've mentioned Tony the news. By the way, that for
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Speaker 1: Nett talked to the media. Oh, he hasn't talked a
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Speaker 1: little while. Why. I don't know. You haven't talked to him,
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe no one's asked him a question in
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Speaker 1: a while. I mean I've talked to him. It's all
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Speaker 1: been good. I don't he's been fine. But he's spoke
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Speaker 1: in the locker room today, breaking news. Well we haven't
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Speaker 1: heard from in a while, so, I mean I got
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Speaker 1: kind of if it was Ramsey you were talking about,
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Speaker 1: I'd be like, wow, that would be new. That would
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Speaker 1: He did not speak, and he's still not been made
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Speaker 1: available to the media. He's been in the open locker room,
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Speaker 1: but he has not. I don't know if he's been
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Speaker 1: approached or not or whatever. So I saw him today.
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Speaker 1: I saw him today. Yeah, he looked good. You look good.
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Speaker 1: The big story though, for Tony, at least on Monday Night, Tony,
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Speaker 1: you were talking about, hey of a preseason storyline. The
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Speaker 1: Ramsey versus Matt Ryan thing really kind of gets you going.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if Logs would feel the same way.
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Speaker 1: I mean, for a preseason game, when you're looking for storylines,
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Speaker 1: usually they're not a lot of energy. I mean, the
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Speaker 1: third preseason game has more than any other, but it's
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Speaker 1: not like, you know, boy can't wait for this matchup,
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Speaker 1: or you know, it's more let's you're more looking at
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Speaker 1: your own guys, and even us doing the radio, we're
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Speaker 1: talking about just the Jaguars for the most part, you know,
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Speaker 1: we're just talking about development, what this means for the season.
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Speaker 1: This is unique to me because the g Q article
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Speaker 1: coming out where Jalen Ramsey said Matt Ryan, who I
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Speaker 1: believe was an m v P two years ago, has
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Speaker 1: seven straight years and four thousand yards passing, has been
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Speaker 1: multiple time Pro bowler. It's trashed. I thought he said
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Speaker 1: he was trash. Yeah, when he overrated whatever you called him,
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Speaker 1: So who's trash? I can't remember trash, but whatever the
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Speaker 1: term was. It was very critical and in my opinion, disrespectful.
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Speaker 1: But took a shot at Matt Ryan. Well, Matt Ryan's
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Speaker 1: coming to town. They got a pretty good receiver, a
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Speaker 1: couple of I mean, actually I got a couple of
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Speaker 1: good receivers. One one Julio Jones, Mohammedson news very good.
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Speaker 1: Was not gonna go yeah, but I'm saying but they
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Speaker 1: but he did respond, sure are you kind of he
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Speaker 1: was kind of nice about it. I thought I thought
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Speaker 1: maybe a little bit too nice. I wanted to see
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Speaker 1: him kind of fire some some stuff at Jalen, you know,
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Speaker 1: just kind of get this thing heat up points. I said.
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Speaker 1: And if you're a player and someone calls you out
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Speaker 1: like that, it's not that you play harder, but it
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Speaker 1: puts a little bit of extra sauce maybe, and wanting
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Speaker 1: to if there's an opportunity and you're picking sides, you're like,
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Speaker 1: you know what one is the preseason too, the guy
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Speaker 1: called me out, I'm gonna go after him. Yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 1: if if if I were Matt Ryan and I threw
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Speaker 1: you know, let's say a completion towards on Jalen, I'd
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Speaker 1: probably come up, you know, with the gun saying, you know,
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Speaker 1: blowing the smoke off, you know, kind of do that
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Speaker 1: you're a real good trash talker, just to be just
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Speaker 1: to mess with them. I'd actually, huh, what what what's
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Speaker 1: that make you? I just I mean, if I would
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Speaker 1: go out, that wouldn't be very good respot. You're not
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Speaker 1: a very good trash talk trash you don't like my
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Speaker 1: gun thing? Actually, I think trash talking is better when
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Speaker 1: it's just do you like my gun thing? I ain't?
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Speaker 1: This ain't Actually this subtle trash talking is better, right
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Speaker 1: because it just you make the point of like first down,
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Speaker 1: what would you do more of that one? I overrated?
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Speaker 1: Was that first down? Over it? And just move on?
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Speaker 1: And every time, every time, you know, you gotta believe,
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Speaker 1: I mean, it'll be interesting. Yeah, I mean so I think,
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Speaker 1: I mean you gotta believe. That's if Matt Ryan he's
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Speaker 1: a competitor. He's I mean, no matter what he said,
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Speaker 1: and I heard some comments I don't here at all,
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Speaker 1: but no matter what he said, he as a competitor.
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Speaker 1: You're like, all right, I got called out. You know what?
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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan can say last time I checked, okay, I was,
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Speaker 1: I was paid player in the National Football League with
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Speaker 1: my extension at five years and a hundred fifty million. Boy,
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Speaker 1: it's good to be overrated. How about that. That's that's
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Speaker 1: a long sentence on the field, but you've got time
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Speaker 1: between plays. Five year, hundred fifty million overrated. Yeah, I'll
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Speaker 1: take it. I'll take my overrated bank are you? Are
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Speaker 1: you buying this in the preseason though? Being a storylineine
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Speaker 1: just a regular season? Is it more? Does it? I mean,
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Speaker 1: if it's a regular season, it's gonna be a big deal.
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Speaker 1: And I think I think Matt Ryan will probably have
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Speaker 1: a little a little extra and he probably won't admit
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Speaker 1: it and he won't talk about it, but he's gonna
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Speaker 1: have a little extra, Jeff. Preseason, regular season practice. But
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Speaker 1: you know, you know, pickup game. If somebody called you
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Speaker 1: out and your game and who you were as a
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Speaker 1: player and demeaned it, you're telling me it wouldn't mean anything. No, no, no,
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it wouldn't mean that. I don't care.
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Speaker 1: If it's a preseason that's a little extra. Yeah, bring
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Speaker 1: a little extra, you know what I mean? Where you
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Speaker 1: may not have that little extra motivation, especially in press.
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Speaker 1: My whole point. You know that Matt Ryan's been around
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Speaker 1: the block long enough to know that at the end
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Speaker 1: of the day when you is it gonna matter, I'll
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Speaker 1: say no, But you still got a little you still
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Speaker 1: got a little a little something something. As an offensive linemen,
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Speaker 1: I would have you always want to finish your blocks,
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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go a little bit and try to
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Speaker 1: drive through the ground a little bit harder, or you know,
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Speaker 1: take that extra shot for Matt Ryan. You would, I would, Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now. So you're saying that Jaila
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Speaker 1: needs to have his head on swivel if it was
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Speaker 1: me and I'm working down the field, especially in the
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Speaker 1: preseason game, so what I get, I mean, I'll take
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Speaker 1: even in the regular season. I'll say this. I think
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Speaker 1: back to the Giants game and that you were in
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Speaker 1: the team nineties six when uh or ninety seven when
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Speaker 1: Brunelle got hurt in the preseason Giants. Yeah, but if
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Speaker 1: that went somebody blocked the guy. Understand what happened, Well,
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Speaker 1: that's beside the point. But he went low in that
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Speaker 1: next game, if you remember, we went after Armstead. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean too, he's player though we took shots at
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Speaker 1: him constantly, and I like the guy. It didn't matter.
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Speaker 1: Good player, too, good player. My point is saying this
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Speaker 1: is I'm I might be chasing the ball down the
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Speaker 1: field if I see number twenty anywhere near. I'm just
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Speaker 1: saying it was me. We'll see what happens. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: play through the whistle, through the whistle, through the whistle,
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Speaker 1: through the whistle. Yeah, the echo. Right. You know you're
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Speaker 1: saying you wouldn't do Oh, I mean, I mean back
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Speaker 1: in the day. I'm not saying right now, right now,
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't do anything. I'm like whatever, you can say,
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Speaker 1: whatever you want. I don't care. Tell me what else
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Speaker 1: you want to call me. I don't care anymore. You
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Speaker 1: have all kinds of stuff going. But back in the day,
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Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about. I know you come on
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Speaker 1: this Jaguars defense is my goodness. You guys all jumps offside.
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Speaker 1: When you were the Jets that scared Troyman in the
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Speaker 1: first play, it worked, we did too. Did I ever
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Speaker 1: tell you that story? I think I've heard we were honest.
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Speaker 1: The goodness it was Tony thinking of talking about you know,
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Speaker 1: the old school kind of way of getting after guys.
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Speaker 1: Troy Aikman was. It was early in his career, and
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Speaker 1: you could tell that he was not comfortable. I mean
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Speaker 1: he was just to use a term deer in the
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Speaker 1: headlights early on in his career. I mean this is
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Speaker 1: very early on. I mean, obviously he's great player, Hall
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Speaker 1: of Famer, and you know, turned into an unbelievable quarterback.
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Speaker 1: But we faced him and we were all kind of
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Speaker 1: watching the film on him in our defensive line. Coach
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Speaker 1: and coordinator said at the time, Okay, when we line up,
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Speaker 1: when Troyman gets under center, the first sound that's uttered
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Speaker 1: out of his mouth, we're all firing off. I love it.
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Speaker 1: I mean I love it. That's when the game was
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Speaker 1: great was the name of the movie with Burt Reynolds
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Speaker 1: in it. As long as you are this as so literally,
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Speaker 1: Troy comes walking up, you know, the line of scrimge
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Speaker 1: first play, and I think there, I want to say
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Speaker 1: the ball. So we had a good kickoff coverage balls
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Speaker 1: like at the ten yard line. He walks up under
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Speaker 1: center and he goes, he goes the defensive line and
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Speaker 1: his center is knocked back into his lap as tackles
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Speaker 1: Everybody's like, what's going on, and Troy's eyes are like,
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Speaker 1: I mean super big. Next play, fumbled quarterback exchange, we
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Speaker 1: take over inside the ten and we get a touchdownny
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Speaker 1: true story. It's Ian now. I'll say this though, that
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Speaker 1: I think you'd me care about nowadays as certain thing
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Speaker 1: as you can't do the way the games officiated that
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Speaker 1: we could get away with the way it was officiated
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Speaker 1: when we played Yea, there's certain things different now. It's
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Speaker 1: just a different game. Different much different games. Like I
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Speaker 1: don't even know how hard you could go after jam
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Speaker 1: because if you hit it. I mean, it used to
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Speaker 1: be the old rules were or the I don't know
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Speaker 1: if it was a rule, but kind of how you
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Speaker 1: played the game. If a guy standing around a pile
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Speaker 1: I mean office, you wouldn't clear them off, And now
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Speaker 1: you do that. If it's anywhere close to the penalty whistle,
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a penalty and so you gotta be
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Speaker 1: I mean, it gonna be smart too. As a players
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Speaker 1: talk about different game. I mean literally, back in the day,
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Speaker 1: if a quarterback through an interception, everyone, I mean he
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Speaker 1: was fair game. I mean, you talk about a different
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Speaker 1: league now, but I mean it's I mean, but even
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Speaker 1: with like I guarantee you, the officials of today prepare
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Speaker 1: for games. And so the officials I guarantee you this
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Speaker 1: week are prepared and they know that what Jalen said
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Speaker 1: about Matt Ryan, guarantee they know, and so they're gonna
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Speaker 1: be looking for any sign of any funny business going
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Speaker 1: on in that area. So you know, for another words,
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Speaker 1: a guy going after jailing because of what he said,
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Speaker 1: or Jalen doing something extra at Matt Ryan, which you
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Speaker 1: know expect that, but they they're aware and and officials
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Speaker 1: they actually know that. That's part of their training to
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Speaker 1: prepare for a game that week. Now, for example, they
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Speaker 1: watch film, they repress, they do all of that to
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Speaker 1: make sure that they're fully prepared for whatever may occur
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Speaker 1: in a game, which is which is different. They don't
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Speaker 1: They didn't used to do that. If they did watch film.
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Speaker 1: If they did, they didn't care. He got away with
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Speaker 1: a lot more back. It was kind of the wild West.
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Speaker 1: Let it go. It took a little defense here. Miles
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Speaker 1: Jack having a solid campus first year as the full
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Speaker 1: time starter at mike linebacker. Today, head coach Doug Brone
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Speaker 1: said the middle linebacker has something to prove this year.
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Speaker 1: He has a chip on his shoulder. You know, he's
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Speaker 1: one of those guys that wants to go out there
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Speaker 1: every day and and and prove how good he is
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Speaker 1: and and he is, and you know he's probably you know,
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Speaker 1: the guys on defense get a lot of of attention,
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Speaker 1: you know, but you know there's there's other guys that
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Speaker 1: are on that defense are pretty good football players. That's
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Speaker 1: the trick for Miles Jack here, guys, is to to
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Speaker 1: run that huddle with those type of guys in there.
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Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of personalities, a lot of
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Speaker 1: veteran football players. And he said it himself. For a
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Speaker 1: young mic linebacker to take control of a huddle and
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Speaker 1: a defense like that, uh, he's starting to get to
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Speaker 1: that point. I think though it feels it takes time.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just no different than a quarterback, you know,
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Speaker 1: stepping into the huddle for the first year. You know,
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Speaker 1: it takes time. It takes time to garner the respect
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Speaker 1: of those that are in the huddle. And I think
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Speaker 1: that you know the first thing that has to happen
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Speaker 1: is you have to play well, you know, to have
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Speaker 1: command of a huddle. And I think he's starting to
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Speaker 1: earn that, and then you know his teammates are starting
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Speaker 1: to see that. But there's still progress and steps that
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Speaker 1: he needs to make as a mic linebacker. You know,
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Speaker 1: we kind of talked about that, you know, in the
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Speaker 1: course of the game, and you know, his reads and
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Speaker 1: everything else are different from last year to this year,
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Speaker 1: and and I think that will all come in time.
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Speaker 1: He's a inntally talented. He's a good guy. He works hard.
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Speaker 1: I think the thing that impressed me the most about
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Speaker 1: Miles was that over the last couple of years was
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Speaker 1: watching him prepare. I mean, he literally got into the
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Speaker 1: hip pocket of Paul Plas Lovesni from meetings to practice
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Speaker 1: to pregame warm up question, here's a great here's an
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Speaker 1: interesting thing. And I haven't watched yet. I should have.
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Speaker 1: Maybe you have. Is he still doing the same warm
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Speaker 1: up he did when Paul Pazni did it? You know
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Speaker 1: that we used to go out there and how much
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Speaker 1: work you? I mean, because great question. I haven't seen you.
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Speaker 1: I haven't paid attention. I'm not saying I've paid attention,
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Speaker 1: but I haven't seen it. Paul would have a fifteen
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Speaker 1: twenty minute warm up that was like that would work
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Speaker 1: would be a workout for you know, most most players,
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Speaker 1: and Miles went did it with him, and that was
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Speaker 1: paul routine of getting ready for the game, and Miles
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Speaker 1: did it with him the last two years. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: be I'm actually gonna look for that. I wonder if
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Speaker 1: he's still doing it. Great point. I have not seen
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Speaker 1: him out there throwing the nedball, but I haven't paid attention,
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Speaker 1: so IRY have no idea. I've kind of looked. I
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Speaker 1: haven't seen it, but I'm gonna look. I'm gonna make
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Speaker 1: su I'm gonna definitely look for it this week. I
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Speaker 1: ask him, do you still do it? If not? Why, Yeah?
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Speaker 1: What's the difference? Now? What would what's the old chance?
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Speaker 1: What would are the question? What would pauls do? Right? Right?
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Speaker 1: They keeping that linebacker room, that's right, you know. So,
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Speaker 1: but he's he has so much uh talent. When it
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Speaker 1: comes to the ability to run, it was athletic abilities
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Speaker 1: off the chart. And so I think what you're saying, Jeff,
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Speaker 1: I made his movement styles. I mean, the guy was
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Speaker 1: running back in college. He played both ways. I mean
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Speaker 1: he's a great athlete, great athlete, and he was if
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Speaker 1: he didn't have the knee issues coming out of college.
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Speaker 1: Some of the questions he was the top ten pick,
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Speaker 1: So are we surprised? I think the only risk anyone
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Speaker 1: ever thought was how's the need gonna be? And she's
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Speaker 1: been fine. Yeah. But my point, I mean, he's top
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Speaker 1: ten talent. I mean, that's how talented this guy is
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Speaker 1: at the linebacker probably like a I mean, people have
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Speaker 1: at him as a top top five, you know. I
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Speaker 1: think that still makes it top ten. But yeah, a
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Speaker 1: little bit. You're just you know, not giving enough credit. Hey,
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Speaker 1: if you if you're Todd Wash, how vanilla, are you
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Speaker 1: still having this defense this weekn do you put anything
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Speaker 1: else out there this week? I mean, let me say
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Speaker 1: this JP, this defense is not very complex anyway, you know,
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Speaker 1: so uh, you know, and if if he were going
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Speaker 1: to do something different, you know, he's not going to
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Speaker 1: do it in preseason game number three, you know. So there,
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Speaker 1: even though they have a game plan week and they're
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Speaker 1: preparing for the Atlanta Falcons and looking at their scheme
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Speaker 1: and looking at their personnel, the intricacies of the offensive
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Speaker 1: game plan and the defensive game plan, it's not just
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Speaker 1: not there, you know. I Mean, for two reasons. One,
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Speaker 1: you don't want to show something that you might want
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Speaker 1: to say for the regular season. And number two, you
17:54
Speaker 1: know you you got some guys that are playing in
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Speaker 1: the game that that don't have a lot of years
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Speaker 1: in the sixth another belt. You still want to evaluate
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Speaker 1: them without them thinking good stuff. Hey, the Ashley Home
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Speaker 1: Store hit. The sack tracker is here. So far seven
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Speaker 1: sacks for this Jaguars team in the eighteen preseason. We'll
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Speaker 1: keep track of that throughout the year here on. We'll
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Speaker 1: start at zero though, right come regular season. I don't
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Speaker 1: think so. No preseason regular Okay, mattresses, more mattresses for
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Speaker 1: under privileged children. So there you go. It's some only
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Speaker 1: thing I gotta remember because we want to confuse our
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Speaker 1: stack numbers when we start talking about the total sacks
18:36
Speaker 1: once the regular season starts. That's right, very true, very true.
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18:46
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18:48
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Speaker 1: If you could have heard all of us on the
23:03
Speaker 1: on the headsets, you know, it's amazing how much fun
23:06
Speaker 1: it would be for people to know what was being said.
23:12
Speaker 1: What are you doing? But that's just Blake's personality. I mean,
23:15
Speaker 1: I don't think he cares if it's a preseason game.
23:18
Speaker 1: I don't think he cares what the situation needs. We
23:19
Speaker 1: could be playing outside on the concrete and he's going
23:22
Speaker 1: to do the same thing. I mean, that's just the
23:23
Speaker 1: type of guy he is and that's why we love him.
23:25
Speaker 1: There there's Nathaniel Hacking, offensive coordinator. The full interview coming
23:29
Speaker 1: up Saturday and the public s tailgate show that's breaking
23:33
Speaker 1: down what the coaches were talking about during the scramble
23:35
Speaker 1: on third and goal. They get down to the one
23:37
Speaker 1: yard line and he gave up his body, tried to
23:40
Speaker 1: score and from way out Jeff, get out, get out? Stop?
23:49
Speaker 1: Do you know what? Though you hate it, but at
23:52
Speaker 1: the same time it I mean, I mean, what other
23:56
Speaker 1: I think we're talking about this earlier, What other quarterback
23:59
Speaker 1: in the National Football League is doing that? Young guys?
24:04
Speaker 1: But not no one. That's if I'm talking starting quarterback
24:07
Speaker 1: in the National Football League? What other quarterback is doing
24:10
Speaker 1: something like that? Making what is he making twenty million
24:12
Speaker 1: bucks this year? Whatever he's making nobody. I mean, it's
24:15
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, dangerous, but it still kind of
24:18
Speaker 1: makes you who would have done that? Maybe not now
24:21
Speaker 1: because of the shoulder injury that he's recovering coming back
24:25
Speaker 1: from his Andrew Luck. That was kind of Andrew lux personality.
24:27
Speaker 1: He was kind of that guy, just throw his body around.
24:31
Speaker 1: He's not doing it now, so I mean, but you're
24:34
Speaker 1: right now. I can't think of anybody big difference from
24:36
Speaker 1: a year ago, obviously for Blake Bortles. This time last year,
24:39
Speaker 1: he and Chad Henny we're battling for the starting job,
24:43
Speaker 1: and it's a different go around this time for Blake.
24:47
Speaker 1: I mean, it feels good to not to not get
24:49
Speaker 1: benched this week. Um so, I guess that's so positive,
24:53
Speaker 1: but you know it was it didn't play good. And
24:56
Speaker 1: you know what happens at this level is if you
24:58
Speaker 1: don't play good, you know they're gonna find somebody that
25:00
Speaker 1: Blake yea different world this year, obviously, Chad hitting in
25:07
Speaker 1: interview right there, Okay, I mean everyone we love him
25:10
Speaker 1: because of the competitiveness on the field and stuff too.
25:13
Speaker 1: I love his attitude, like he's just no nonsense. He's straightforward,
25:18
Speaker 1: he's honest. He says, listen, I didn't play well. I
25:20
Speaker 1: got bench. It's what happens, you know, I mean, I
25:23
Speaker 1: just you don't. It's refreshing to me because he can
25:26
Speaker 1: laugh at himself. Yeah, you just don't see that very much.
25:29
Speaker 1: I mean, I really appreciate Peyton Manny ever saying something
25:32
Speaker 1: like that, but I just I think Blake has matured
25:36
Speaker 1: so much mentally since he's been here. What you would expect,
25:39
Speaker 1: he's obviously got, He's continues to improve as a football player,
25:43
Speaker 1: but just his mindset, and I think it leads to
25:45
Speaker 1: the mental toughness that he does have, which is I've
25:48
Speaker 1: always thought it is a very positive trade of him
25:50
Speaker 1: and be able to fight through things and keep going. Um.
25:53
Speaker 1: But that comment is just to me, who Blake is.
25:56
Speaker 1: He's great. I really, I'm glad he's our quarterback. I
25:59
Speaker 1: enjoy him, you know, as a person and and listening
26:02
Speaker 1: to him and kind of how he leads. Uh, it's
26:05
Speaker 1: to me, it's I know it's not a big deal,
26:07
Speaker 1: but I just hearing him say it like that, it's
26:09
Speaker 1: very refreshing to me. That rubs off the locker room
26:12
Speaker 1: to hear in the guys in this room talk about
26:15
Speaker 1: Blake Borders, including the wide receiver crew in Marquise League.
26:18
Speaker 1: For all the critiques of things that he's been getting
26:20
Speaker 1: at the beginning of his career up to now, Um,
26:24
Speaker 1: it's a lot tow to bring a quarterback down all honesty. Um,
26:27
Speaker 1: that's why I respect Blake so much, to the sense,
26:29
Speaker 1: you know, let that thing and let everything that gets
26:32
Speaker 1: said go, don't worry about anything, and he's go out
26:34
Speaker 1: there and handle business. We saw how this this team
26:37
Speaker 1: kind of rallied around him organically really as the season
26:40
Speaker 1: went on, especially the defensive side. All the critics in
26:42
Speaker 1: from the outside every you hear that, but I'm not
26:45
Speaker 1: going to comment. I don't organically. Yeah, see how we're
26:49
Speaker 1: going deep for the vocabulary right well, I thought my
26:51
Speaker 1: acumumen was better. I just had to match up with
26:54
Speaker 1: you guys today. Where's yours? You know you're the only
26:56
Speaker 1: one that didn't go deep. I'm not gonna go I'm
26:58
Speaker 1: not gonna do that. I'll say this. You said something
27:02
Speaker 1: the key there, JP said as the season went on,
27:04
Speaker 1: I don't think he had the locker room early. I
27:07
Speaker 1: don't think he had it in training. I think they
27:09
Speaker 1: were looking around at each other like, wait a second,
27:11
Speaker 1: we gotta really guarantee the locker room split. I just
27:14
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you there. But that's what I'm saying.
27:18
Speaker 1: I'm talking about split going back to last year, this
27:20
Speaker 1: time of year when Chad got start preseason game number three,
27:24
Speaker 1: I'll guarantee you certain guys you know, you had fifties.
27:26
Speaker 1: Some guys believe Chad should get the start. Some guys
27:29
Speaker 1: believe Blake should get the start, like these two sitting
27:34
Speaker 1: right here. Well, and that's that's kind of you know,
27:36
Speaker 1: people say it was a lot you know, what does
27:37
Speaker 1: the locker room think? And as you know, people think, okay,
27:40
Speaker 1: well it's unified. Look, man, the locker room is no
27:43
Speaker 1: different than a lot of times in opinion on sports
27:46
Speaker 1: talk radio. You know, even though that you know it's
27:49
Speaker 1: their team, guys have opinions. And so he did earn it.
27:53
Speaker 1: He heard their respect and hear in the got the
27:55
Speaker 1: locker room behind him. And I think he is and
27:57
Speaker 1: I don't know if he if he I don't know
28:00
Speaker 1: if he necessarily earned it until you know, you got
28:03
Speaker 1: to December when he started, when he hit that streak,
28:05
Speaker 1: when he's playing really well, and I think that the
28:08
Speaker 1: players are like, okay, you know, then then I think
28:10
Speaker 1: he started getting some more love that in in that sense,
28:13
Speaker 1: and then in the playoffs, obviously he played well and
28:16
Speaker 1: and got more so. But that's we go back to
28:20
Speaker 1: talking about what we had said earlier, and that, you know,
28:22
Speaker 1: to get respect or to get any kind of talking
28:25
Speaker 1: about Miles Jack, you know, if you're gonna be in
28:27
Speaker 1: front of a group of guys, you better be playing well.
28:31
Speaker 1: And it's no different than it is for the quarterback.
28:33
Speaker 1: Just because you are the quarterback, okay, quote unquote does
28:37
Speaker 1: not mean you automatically get respect. You know, you gotta
28:39
Speaker 1: earn it. And I think the other thing that were
28:42
Speaker 1: the you saw the locker room kind of get in
28:44
Speaker 1: his corner was when he was playing better. But I
28:48
Speaker 1: think it increased exponentially because of everyone else taking shots
28:52
Speaker 1: around the league, not only the media but the other players.
28:57
Speaker 1: And I think they said, wait a second, it's like family,
29:00
Speaker 1: Like we can say things about our guy, but you're
29:02
Speaker 1: not saying things about our quarterback. By the way, he's
29:07
Speaker 1: playing good football, and like we're gonna stand by our guy.
29:09
Speaker 1: So I think it was both him playing better what
29:11
Speaker 1: he did and he played very well down the stretch.
29:13
Speaker 1: Um everyone brings up the Buffalo game, he played bad.
29:16
Speaker 1: I've actually put that on how the coaches called the game.
29:19
Speaker 1: I don't think he was ever given really an opportunity
29:20
Speaker 1: to do much. He found a way we found and
29:22
Speaker 1: he found a way. He found a way to win
29:24
Speaker 1: the game. Um, but I think it was a combination
29:27
Speaker 1: of him playing well and improving, and then also everyone everyone,
29:32
Speaker 1: Remember he had Chris Sims out there. You know you
29:35
Speaker 1: you called Chris Sims out seventie best quarterback in the NFL.
29:39
Speaker 1: Don't you tell him you told him something that nearly
29:42
Speaker 1: bled out on the field or something. I think I
29:44
Speaker 1: said something along the lines is the only cool thing
29:47
Speaker 1: you've ever done in your entire life as almost dying
29:49
Speaker 1: on the football field. But he had his spleen refue
29:52
Speaker 1: and I said, and plus your dad's Phil Sims. Outside
29:54
Speaker 1: of that, what have you done? Yeah, I was going
29:55
Speaker 1: to go to I did both shot the ball, I
29:59
Speaker 1: mean years plain League two or three, a handful and
30:02
Speaker 1: then he yeah, he got hit anyway that that was
30:04
Speaker 1: part of the home he started. He started from Tampa.
30:06
Speaker 1: How many games nobody no, it was one of those anyways.
30:10
Speaker 1: So that was all the noise around the quarterback. And
30:13
Speaker 1: and it's his team. We'll see, you know. The leadership
30:16
Speaker 1: has to be that, the play has to be there.
30:18
Speaker 1: It goes the wrong way, trust me, it'll yeah, people
30:22
Speaker 1: jump ship quick too. That's good points the running back
30:26
Speaker 1: Leonard for that in the locker room today. You know,
30:29
Speaker 1: this is a running football team. Of course, it'll probably
30:32
Speaker 1: his last look in the preseason. Most of the starters
30:35
Speaker 1: normally don't play in preseason Week four. But what does
30:37
Speaker 1: Leonard want to get out of Saturday night's game. I'm
30:40
Speaker 1: trying to trying to get out. I'm not lie the
30:45
Speaker 1: best I got for you, just trying to get in
30:47
Speaker 1: get averything with the team. First quarter when you have
30:50
Speaker 1: how many haven't been downs? We play? Uh, trying to
30:52
Speaker 1: get the rent gown earlier until we get out, score
30:56
Speaker 1: and get out. Let's see a plan for Leonard for that.
30:59
Speaker 1: It may not be that simp they'll go a little
31:01
Speaker 1: bit into this football game, but yeah, I expected starters
31:04
Speaker 1: to go half you know, maybe come out in the
31:07
Speaker 1: series in in the third quarter. You know. So that
31:10
Speaker 1: was the old mindset that the third preseason. I don't
31:13
Speaker 1: know if it's still there. I mean, you look at
31:15
Speaker 1: if you look at what the progression has been so far,
31:18
Speaker 1: this this we'll see a night, we'll see a lot
31:20
Speaker 1: of well this, I mean they played a lot in preseason. Yeah,
31:22
Speaker 1: I mean, so it's kind of what they have done
31:24
Speaker 1: is essentially is the way you refer to as how
31:27
Speaker 1: it used to be. You know. So uh, if if
31:29
Speaker 1: you're taking the next step, that's the next step, right,
31:33
Speaker 1: you come out and play a series in the third quarter,
31:35
Speaker 1: So we'll see. It'll be interesting. Yeah, a lot of
31:37
Speaker 1: because a lot of games are on tonight, I believe, alright,
31:39
Speaker 1: so teams do it across the league, you guys. Thoughts
31:43
Speaker 1: And because watching the film, and I watched it twice
31:47
Speaker 1: this week. I watched it and we we did. We
31:49
Speaker 1: we both watched it on the way back from Minnesota,
31:52
Speaker 1: came back in and watched it again this week on
31:56
Speaker 1: the bigger screens, you know, that a little bit more
31:58
Speaker 1: kind of detail. And I remember after having watched it
32:04
Speaker 1: and then went home and I went, you know, four
32:07
Speaker 1: Nett wasn't all that good, you know. And then I
32:10
Speaker 1: went back and I kind of watched it and focused
32:11
Speaker 1: in a little bit more on him, and you know,
32:13
Speaker 1: and partly I think what made me realize that was
32:16
Speaker 1: t J was so good, Yes, you know t G Yeldon.
32:20
Speaker 1: And so I'm sitting there going, well, it was t
32:22
Speaker 1: J that good, and it just makes four Nett, you know,
32:25
Speaker 1: appear like it wasn't that good? And so that you
32:27
Speaker 1: go back and you watch it and you watch some
32:29
Speaker 1: of the individual play by four net and I came
32:32
Speaker 1: away watching it the second time that wasn't that good.
32:35
Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not saying that you know that
32:37
Speaker 1: he's gonna be bad and regular seats or anything like that.
32:39
Speaker 1: Was it not good, Jeff? Or just nothing stood out?
32:41
Speaker 1: It was just Okay, we're gonna remember the offensive line,
32:44
Speaker 1: wasn't it was? What's the different? Not? I think it
32:51
Speaker 1: just wasn't that good, you know. And I'm not saying
32:53
Speaker 1: that he's not gonna be ready to rock and roll
32:55
Speaker 1: for regulacy, because you can you could tell by listening
32:57
Speaker 1: to him right there. What's what's his thoughts right now?
32:59
Speaker 1: Get the game one? The game one, right, you know?
33:03
Speaker 1: So what does he think about the preseason score and
33:05
Speaker 1: get out? In other words, Uh, I just want to
33:07
Speaker 1: get out. I don't want to play in the preseason.
33:10
Speaker 1: And look, I don't have a problem with that. I
33:12
Speaker 1: don't as long as it comes out in the in
33:14
Speaker 1: the regular season. How long is it? You know, come
33:17
Speaker 1: New York? You know, here we go, turn up the volume.
33:20
Speaker 1: You you're cranking it up. But just something, Uh, to
33:23
Speaker 1: kind of keep an eye on, you know, because I
33:25
Speaker 1: mean some guys can turn it up once you get
33:27
Speaker 1: to the regular season, and some guys can't. So most
33:31
Speaker 1: of the guys who can't are you know, sit me
33:34
Speaker 1: on the desk somewhere. Yeah, but are we getting ready
33:40
Speaker 1: to break um? One question I for you guys. I'm
33:43
Speaker 1: just asking. I don't know when we come back, I
33:46
Speaker 1: get how many breaks? You know, I get yelled at
33:49
Speaker 1: if I start breaking something up and then we're going
33:51
Speaker 1: to break um. So I was trying to be proactive.
33:54
Speaker 1: It's real nice of you. Uh had a big word.
33:57
Speaker 1: They're proactive. That's a pretty basic word. Big for you.
34:01
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. It's very kind to you. Uh,
34:04
Speaker 1: it's the after watching the film again, Jeff Jpu watched
34:09
Speaker 1: the game live. I assume two preseason games, training camp.
34:16
Speaker 1: What's your biggest concern? Mhm uh, you're talking about starters
34:21
Speaker 1: or just as far as roster team. Uh give me
34:27
Speaker 1: give me your top two or three in order linebacker
34:30
Speaker 1: depth from me. Well, I mean that's that's that's the
34:31
Speaker 1: one for you. That's number one, all right, So that's
34:35
Speaker 1: one for JP. Go to the list pretty quick. If
34:38
Speaker 1: one of the strutters goes hold on, that's you just relax,
34:40
Speaker 1: you get that's your number one? What's your number one? Jeff?
34:47
Speaker 1: I want to say, just the uh, the offensive rhythm
34:51
Speaker 1: of the passing game, you know, because it's it's been
34:56
Speaker 1: kind of just okay. And you know who who stood
34:59
Speaker 1: out a wide receiver? You many? You know there's the
35:02
Speaker 1: tight end position become a factor. And we haven't seen
35:05
Speaker 1: any catches by Keenan Cole and obviously Austin Sinfari and Jenkins?
35:11
Speaker 1: Am I concerned about that? The question was what your
35:14
Speaker 1: number one concerned was? So if it's not, if you're
35:16
Speaker 1: not concerned, it shouldn't be number one. What's yours? Tony? Please?
35:21
Speaker 1: I don't know. Mine's easy? Uh left Apckle campers number
35:25
Speaker 1: one concerned this team? I'm not worried about that. No
35:31
Speaker 1: what so okay, why are you concerned about that? Because
35:34
Speaker 1: every time we've watched practice, it becomes up as a
35:36
Speaker 1: concern of yours and mine. Well, I mean we sit
35:38
Speaker 1: down and were watching and we go whoa, and then
35:40
Speaker 1: I think, after watching the tape, I'm not concerned about
35:44
Speaker 1: that yet because I when I when I think about
35:47
Speaker 1: what I'm watching now and then I compared to what
35:50
Speaker 1: I saw last year, he was pretty solid last year.
35:54
Speaker 1: So but yeah, I mean after I can tell you
35:58
Speaker 1: after if you if you just watched the Vikings game alone.
36:02
Speaker 1: But I don't think that's fair to a player just
36:03
Speaker 1: to watch one game and we practice the whole week,
36:08
Speaker 1: I mean the whole two weeks. What I'm saying, if
36:10
Speaker 1: you watched the Minnesota week, that would definitely be one
36:13
Speaker 1: of your big concerns. But I mean if along those lines,
36:15
Speaker 1: you could say, well, Norma hadn't played in the game yet,
36:19
Speaker 1: So I almost said, almost almost said the left side
36:22
Speaker 1: of the line was my biggest concern. But I don't
36:26
Speaker 1: think it's just last week. And there's no bigger fan
36:29
Speaker 1: of Cam Robinson what he could be than me. But Jeff,
36:33
Speaker 1: we've watched and we've said all camp that some bad
36:37
Speaker 1: habits that we saw at the end of last year
36:39
Speaker 1: at least have not been changed. And it's not been
36:43
Speaker 1: He's had he's had a tough camp at times, and
36:45
Speaker 1: he had a tough week in Minnesota. Yeah, and and
36:49
Speaker 1: hopefully that will do him some good. But you're not
36:52
Speaker 1: concerned about that. I mean, I mean, we talk about
36:54
Speaker 1: major concerns. I mean, when do you become a concerned
36:57
Speaker 1: about that? I mean, if it happens again this week,
37:02
Speaker 1: you know in preseason game number three would have come
37:05
Speaker 1: up to the high concern at that point. Yeah, yeah,
37:08
Speaker 1: I'd get right up there, you know. But I mean
37:11
Speaker 1: the the offensive. You know, here's the thing, like last year,
37:16
Speaker 1: for example, we go up to New England and I
37:18
Speaker 1: know Tom Brady in New England Patriots are are unique.
37:20
Speaker 1: But you know Tom Brady had he had his crew.
37:24
Speaker 1: These are his guys as as weapons, and that's who
37:27
Speaker 1: he works with. And then when you look at this offense,
37:31
Speaker 1: you go, Okay, who's Blake's guys? They were starting to emerge. Well,
37:37
Speaker 1: have a bunch of young guys that are trying to
37:38
Speaker 1: figure it out. And I'm just I mean, for me,
37:42
Speaker 1: I you wish, you wish that you would start to
37:46
Speaker 1: see something or someone or some people emerge. And we
37:51
Speaker 1: haven't seen that yet. We haven't seen the ball pushed
37:55
Speaker 1: down the field yet a lot, you know, So and
38:00
Speaker 1: is it freaking me out or I'm like, oh my gosh.
38:02
Speaker 1: I mean, look, look last year's preseason it was a
38:05
Speaker 1: freak out preseason because you know what we we had
38:08
Speaker 1: a list of concerns at at the end of preseason
38:11
Speaker 1: last year. So if you're if you're trying to compare
38:15
Speaker 1: or to say, okay, list of concern the concerns this
38:18
Speaker 1: year compared to last year are very minor, very minor,
38:22
Speaker 1: because at this point of the preseason we're like, oh boy,
38:26
Speaker 1: can you run the football? No? Probably not. Offensive line
38:29
Speaker 1: is not very good, quarterback play is terrible. The defense
38:33
Speaker 1: has not been playing together the second or hadn't even
38:35
Speaker 1: practiced yet together. I mean, they were concerns left and right,
38:38
Speaker 1: you know. So I mean this year relatively mild, so
38:42
Speaker 1: to speak, and hopefully you know that lack of concern
38:46
Speaker 1: doesn't go the opposite way when it comes to record Tony,
38:49
Speaker 1: how does Cam work out of it? Uh? Playing? No,
38:55
Speaker 1: I don't think it's just playing, because if you if
38:58
Speaker 1: you have bad habits and you aren't playing with at habits,
39:01
Speaker 1: nothing's gonna change. And so I actually don't think it
39:03
Speaker 1: has anything. Playing has everything to do with He's got
39:06
Speaker 1: to go back to the fundamentals and go get some
39:08
Speaker 1: drill work done. And and it's not I said, I
39:11
Speaker 1: think I said it Monday night. It's not enough just
39:13
Speaker 1: to do it during practice as far as you're the
39:15
Speaker 1: individual time you get I mean, so if you're struggling
39:18
Speaker 1: as any player, but as an offensive lignment especially, it's
39:21
Speaker 1: so technique heavy. I mean, as far as putting yourself
39:24
Speaker 1: in the right position is critical is I think it's
39:27
Speaker 1: a lot of reps before and after practice of you know,
39:30
Speaker 1: in the weight room, of working on your footwork, working
39:32
Speaker 1: on the things that you know are bad habits and
39:35
Speaker 1: focusing on that and getting reps in a meaningful way
39:39
Speaker 1: and so really visualizing what you're trying to do, have
39:42
Speaker 1: perfect footwork and rep it over and over and over
39:44
Speaker 1: again so you can break that habit, because I mean,
39:46
Speaker 1: if you look at anything in life, to break a
39:48
Speaker 1: habit takes a ton of repetition. And so you're you're
39:52
Speaker 1: against the clock a little bit. Not that it can't
39:54
Speaker 1: be done, because he's he's a supreme athlete, very good athlete,
39:57
Speaker 1: and so but you gotta rep it because if you
40:00
Speaker 1: go to the game and you're doing bad happening, it's
40:03
Speaker 1: not gonna change. It's kind of I want to say,
40:06
Speaker 1: it's drives you crazy. But you know, when you watch
40:08
Speaker 1: Jeremy Parnell on the other side, Jeremy Parnell is I mean,
40:12
Speaker 1: he's a technician. You know, his his feet are good,
40:15
Speaker 1: he's consistent. You know, his his his steps, his hands.
40:21
Speaker 1: I mean, and so when you when you watch it,
40:23
Speaker 1: you're watching Parnell in practice. Obviously I've seen him in
40:27
Speaker 1: the game, but when you watch him in practice, he's
40:29
Speaker 1: just he you can you can tell he works on it,
40:32
Speaker 1: and he's consistent, and his feet are good. And then
40:35
Speaker 1: and I think athletically Cam is probably more athletic than
40:40
Speaker 1: Jeremy Parnell. But Cam needs to get the technical aspect
40:45
Speaker 1: of it down like Parnell does. And look, I know
40:47
Speaker 1: they'reet there, got the same coach there. He's a good coach.
40:50
Speaker 1: It just needs to happen. We'll come back and get
40:55
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45:21
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45:23
Speaker 1: evolve and change the game. But at some point I
45:25
Speaker 1: feel like there's got to be a leniency where, um,
45:29
Speaker 1: there's a no return rule, you know what I mean,
45:30
Speaker 1: there's a point of no return where you can't really
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Speaker 1: the locker room this week discussing the new rule in
45:39
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Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lagerman, and Tony Baselli and the
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Speaker 1: Jags were flagged twice for this Saturday. And man, I
45:53
Speaker 1: hate this rule with a passion. We've heard this with
45:57
Speaker 1: a passion. I think it's ridiculous. And I don't like
46:00
Speaker 1: the defensive receiver rule. I've been saying that for years too.
46:04
Speaker 1: It's an impossible rule to officiate correctly live in the game.
46:06
Speaker 1: If they wanted to keep the defense's receiver ruling in play,
46:10
Speaker 1: then it has to be reviewable. Was perfect, clean hit
46:15
Speaker 1: by Jared Wilson. Terrible, terrible for the game of football.
46:19
Speaker 1: I was talking about. My concern is is that what
46:21
Speaker 1: and I talked about this Monday night with the television
46:24
Speaker 1: show Jaguars All Access, was that the new rule, okay,
46:28
Speaker 1: which is the lording the head to initiate contact and
46:31
Speaker 1: and the flag happiness of that or the desire to
46:35
Speaker 1: emphasize it in the preseason has now spilled over into
46:40
Speaker 1: other other things. One is obviously the defenseless receiver because
46:46
Speaker 1: that was I mean that, that's textbook a clean hit,
46:48
Speaker 1: and so Now it's almost as if if if a
46:52
Speaker 1: hit happens, then it looks violent, it's got to be
46:55
Speaker 1: a flag. Well, it can't be legal, you know what
46:57
Speaker 1: I mean. And so here's the problem with all of
47:00
Speaker 1: those in them not being replayed. So if you're a
47:01
Speaker 1: fan watching the game and you see this great play
47:03
Speaker 1: and great football play, you're like, oh, what a great hit,
47:06
Speaker 1: good play, Let me see a flag, Like what's what
47:08
Speaker 1: is a good football play? Now? What's a good tackle?
47:11
Speaker 1: I don't even I don't even know. And here's the
47:13
Speaker 1: problem with the rule. It says the lowering of the head.
47:15
Speaker 1: It doesn't say anything about the top of the head.
47:17
Speaker 1: So you actually, by law, if you lower your head
47:19
Speaker 1: and lead with the head and hit the face mask,
47:23
Speaker 1: according to the letter of the law, that's a family
47:25
Speaker 1: penalty stip. If you lead with the head, so your
47:30
Speaker 1: body and so which, by the way, I don't know
47:32
Speaker 1: if whoever wrote the rule has ever played football. It's
47:34
Speaker 1: impossible to tackle without your head leading the way. It's
47:41
Speaker 1: leading the way and making initial contact. So basically you
47:45
Speaker 1: have to be so precise and perfect to have the
47:47
Speaker 1: head to the side every time it make contact with
47:50
Speaker 1: just the shoulder pads which if you watch foot Bar
47:54
Speaker 1: play it it's a full speed, hundred mile you know,
47:58
Speaker 1: all out deal and things happen. You don't get to
48:01
Speaker 1: do that. I mean, I see like the the a
48:03
Speaker 1: J boy A penalty and I think they call that
48:06
Speaker 1: one wrong. And I don't know with the league, I
48:09
Speaker 1: don't I don't know if the league is going to
48:10
Speaker 1: respond and come out and say, well, we we missed
48:13
Speaker 1: that call. But I think they missed that because it
48:15
Speaker 1: looked like this head off to the side, you know,
48:18
Speaker 1: on that one. So so that'll be interesting to see.
48:21
Speaker 1: But the one thing I will say, look, I love
48:24
Speaker 1: the intent. I don't I love the intent because what
48:28
Speaker 1: do you can tell me If the intent is Jeff
48:30
Speaker 1: is to get players to stop using their head as
48:34
Speaker 1: a weapon, great, So how about we do this then?
48:36
Speaker 1: Actually called the rule that was in the books that
48:38
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to use the crown or the top
48:39
Speaker 1: of your helmet, uh making contact. I'm not going to
48:42
Speaker 1: disagree with that. You didn't need this rule. How about
48:44
Speaker 1: this unfortunate disagreeing with you. I'm just saying, is that
48:48
Speaker 1: the way it was it wasn't working because you know,
48:52
Speaker 1: give example, I watched you know, you watch the Vikings
48:54
Speaker 1: game and watching the Colts play on Monday Night football,
48:59
Speaker 1: and then today I'm watching the Kansas City Chiefs Atlanta
49:02
Speaker 1: Falcons game. And I can tell you when you watched
49:06
Speaker 1: defenders okay and all offensive players now, and you actually
49:11
Speaker 1: can tell how much the helmets are or how much
49:15
Speaker 1: more they are up now than they have ever been seriously,
49:20
Speaker 1: and so that can't necessarily be a bad thing. But
49:24
Speaker 1: some of the ridiculousness of like calling a J boy
49:28
Speaker 1: for that penalty. Now, if if you called uh C
49:32
Speaker 1: J hand the running back for that because he lowered
49:35
Speaker 1: his head like a battering ram is he was approaching
49:38
Speaker 1: a J boy And now if you flagged him for that,
49:41
Speaker 1: I'd be like, you're right, You're right. And there was
49:43
Speaker 1: a play earlier in the game, and I can't remember
49:46
Speaker 1: exactly one was early in the game, and it was
49:48
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette lowered his head. He could have been called
49:52
Speaker 1: and and maybe should have been by what the what
49:54
Speaker 1: the rules are? You know, I actually watched it. I
49:57
Speaker 1: could have called the many times. If you go by
49:59
Speaker 1: the way or the law, I mean, you understand what
50:02
Speaker 1: you're But Jeff, here's a better game, right, It's a
50:05
Speaker 1: safer game. Now, I don't think it's a better game. Well,
50:08
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't say it's a better guy, I
50:09
Speaker 1: don't think it is. I don't like it. I don't.
50:10
Speaker 1: I don't think it's better if the officiating is inconsistent,
50:13
Speaker 1: which is what's gonna happen. That's why I just wish that.
50:16
Speaker 1: How is it a better game? How is it a
50:18
Speaker 1: better game? Okay, but this is football, guys, we're playing football.
50:24
Speaker 1: So how is it a better game When they call
50:26
Speaker 1: a penalty on Gerald Wilson for a perfect football hit?
50:28
Speaker 1: I'm sorry the guy got his bell wrong or whatever
50:30
Speaker 1: happened to Okay, So it's not a better game. It's
50:33
Speaker 1: a bad rule. We see it constantly, but that's not
50:35
Speaker 1: the rule. That's a different rule. That was the start
50:39
Speaker 1: of it a couple of years ago, and we've seen
50:41
Speaker 1: good football plays flagged and nothing's done about it. That's
50:44
Speaker 1: a bad rule. And if you're gonna have a rule
50:46
Speaker 1: like that, it's impossible for the officials to officiate in
50:48
Speaker 1: real time. You have to go to replay and do it,
50:50
Speaker 1: and you have to do it in a manner where
50:51
Speaker 1: they don't have to go to the dang tablet to
50:53
Speaker 1: read it. We have technology. Someone in New York can
50:55
Speaker 1: see in thirty seconds. We knew Jeff in fifteen seconds
50:58
Speaker 1: that was a clean play. You're not hard. Would be
51:00
Speaker 1: someone called down say listen, you guys miss the pick
51:02
Speaker 1: up the flag. Okay, let's go on about our business.
51:04
Speaker 1: It's not that hard. But I to the football is
51:08
Speaker 1: the new rule, the helmet rule. The problem with that
51:11
Speaker 1: rule is it's poorly written. If you really want to
51:13
Speaker 1: take the top of the head and using the helmet
51:15
Speaker 1: as a weapon, why not write it. You're not allowed
51:18
Speaker 1: to initiate contact with your the top of your helmet
51:21
Speaker 1: or the crown of your helmet. So if you initiate
51:23
Speaker 1: it with your face up, which is a good football play,
51:25
Speaker 1: by the way, then you're fine. Just rewrite the rule
51:29
Speaker 1: to take the top and the crowd the helmet out
51:30
Speaker 1: and then you hit with your face mask, which I agree.
51:33
Speaker 1: We should have our head up. It's that's how we
51:35
Speaker 1: were taught to play. Anyways, Now that wasn't enforced, so
51:37
Speaker 1: you get your head down to Actually, well, I was
51:39
Speaker 1: taught play you put the top of your I'm talking
51:42
Speaker 1: about I mean, yeah, but you wouldn't put the top
51:45
Speaker 1: of your head you want your forehead, Yeah, but you
51:48
Speaker 1: want to see what you hit. Of course top of
51:50
Speaker 1: the foreheads changed over the years, but yeah, don't look
51:53
Speaker 1: at me. Yeah you used to be to take the
51:58
Speaker 1: top of the helmet out of it. That's ground your
52:00
Speaker 1: face mask, but your face mask can make first contact.
52:03
Speaker 1: Totally agree, but but but just it was poorly watch
52:08
Speaker 1: games ap and you watch it on film because you
52:10
Speaker 1: can really kind of rewind it and you watch everybody
52:13
Speaker 1: on it. You watch kind of how their their body
52:15
Speaker 1: languages and their positioning. It's better. And so I mean
52:20
Speaker 1: it's bad, and it's it's it's bad. It's a bad
52:22
Speaker 1: rule because it's going to be inconsistent. But I also
52:25
Speaker 1: like the intent and when you watch the film and
52:27
Speaker 1: the games that I've seen this preseason, it's better. It's safer,
52:32
Speaker 1: but it's the game's not better. But I think the
52:34
Speaker 1: posture in contact is all better. I think it's a
52:39
Speaker 1: terrible rule and I think it makes the game worse.
52:40
Speaker 1: And the Competition Committee today I had a teleconference. No
52:44
Speaker 1: changes to the rule will continue to educate players and
52:47
Speaker 1: coaches throughout the preseason. Committee also determined that inadvertent or
52:54
Speaker 1: incidental contact with the helmet and or face mask is
52:57
Speaker 1: not a foul, so they'll continue to show. But they
52:59
Speaker 1: didn't write that the rules. That's that was the announcement.
53:02
Speaker 1: But it so if they actually say that they have
53:06
Speaker 1: changed the rules. So listen, they're not being consistent in
53:09
Speaker 1: their statement there because they have changed the rules. They're
53:11
Speaker 1: gonna say incidental contact with the helmet is not apparently longer.
53:14
Speaker 1: But they're not changing in the rule. But Jeff, I
53:17
Speaker 1: know they're not. But that's the that's the that's the
53:19
Speaker 1: inconsistency there. And the second thing is how are you
53:21
Speaker 1: gonna educate us? We know you don't want. I think
53:23
Speaker 1: what what's concerning to me is when they did this,
53:25
Speaker 1: which was back at what the march. Okay, when when
53:28
Speaker 1: you did this back in March, and if you remember
53:30
Speaker 1: I was sounding the bell in March. You're like, oh,
53:31
Speaker 1: it's not a big deal, because I mean, I want
53:33
Speaker 1: to see where where it went, you know, at that time.
53:35
Speaker 1: But but here's the thing. The entire league as a
53:38
Speaker 1: whole was taken aback, right, I mean, coaches, players, and
53:43
Speaker 1: so you know when this gets when you get to
53:46
Speaker 1: the regular season and also even on the preseason. I'm
53:48
Speaker 1: assuming if you get flagged for this as a player,
53:52
Speaker 1: it's like twous, I mean outlous and then the next
53:58
Speaker 1: time it doubles, you know, So I mean where where
54:03
Speaker 1: in My question is is where is the union? And
54:07
Speaker 1: Okay to step in and say, wait a minute, we
54:10
Speaker 1: have a new rule that's the most uh, it's the
54:13
Speaker 1: most significant change in football in a long time in
54:15
Speaker 1: football period. And then so so we're gonna have this
54:19
Speaker 1: huge significant change and we're gonna try to educate our
54:24
Speaker 1: players and and help them learn the way we want it.
54:28
Speaker 1: But then you're gonna find somebody. This is the question
54:33
Speaker 1: I would like that. Tell me tell me JP as
54:36
Speaker 1: a guy because that hasn't played football. But does that
54:40
Speaker 1: make sense? No, especially if you're like an undrafted rookie
54:44
Speaker 1: and training camp right now and you get he's not
54:47
Speaker 1: gonna get fined me only if he makes the regular rosters.
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Speaker 1: But still that's yeah. But I mean, I just don't understand.
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Speaker 1: Don't understand that that thought process that you have. Okay,
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Speaker 1: a new rule that's the most drastic change in football.
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Speaker 1: It's probably since the forward pass right, and it is
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Speaker 1: it's it's interesting, and you're gonna find guys for that
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Speaker 1: when you're trying to educate. It's impossible to tackle without
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Speaker 1: because if you if you bend and lower your shoulders,
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Speaker 1: what else lowers with you? Your head. It's impossible to
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Speaker 1: tackle somebody without lowering your head. And so the rule
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Speaker 1: is written poorly. And and the problem I have is
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Speaker 1: is the finding who who came up with this? I
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Speaker 1: have the fact that they find it is is is
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Speaker 1: a huge mistake and I would love that it's this
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Speaker 1: has to be and what is this about it? Are
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Speaker 1: we come on? Is it just it's just about making
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Speaker 1: the game safer or is it the perception? Is it
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Speaker 1: the perception because illegal? And that's this quote unquote CTE
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Speaker 1: issue that we're still not percent sure. We know it's
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Speaker 1: not good for you, but there's you know, the connection
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Speaker 1: and everything else. I mean, so I just I have
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Speaker 1: a problem with it at some point. And I'm a
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Speaker 1: broken record that I've said it every year. Football is
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Speaker 1: a violent, tough sport. There's risks at playing football. You
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Speaker 1: want to make it as safe as possible, but still
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Speaker 1: keep it football. And this is a significant change where
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Speaker 1: now you're seeing a game that is choppy in in
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Speaker 1: all over the place because the flags and as someone
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Speaker 1: who's played are as someone who's playing someone who's played
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Speaker 1: this game for my entire life or been a part
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Speaker 1: of it. I'll be honestly, halftime, I don't know whether
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Speaker 1: a good players anymore. I don't know what's a clean tackle,
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Speaker 1: what isn't. That's who're we're a little different here. What
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Speaker 1: do you Where do you stand on? Not just look,
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm for trying to for them to do what
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Speaker 1: they're trying to do, but there has to be a
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Speaker 1: better way to do it. I'm okay with them trying
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Speaker 1: to get the head off. I'd like the head up.
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Speaker 1: You can't take the head out. We're kind of an agreement,
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Speaker 1: We're kind of yeah, so you ride the fence how
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Speaker 1: things are in the NFL right now. That'll do it
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