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448: The 2027 Change from The Cross of Planning to the Sleeping Phoenix · Unshakeable with Human Design - A Human Design For Business Podcast

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Nicole Laino: Come here to become an unshakable human and build an unshakable business according to your human design.
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Nicole Laino: I'm your host, Nicole Laino.
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Nicole Laino: Hello and welcome to Unshakable with Human Design.
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Nicole Laino: I'm your host, Nicole Laino.
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Nicole Laino: And today we are going deep into a topic that I can't escape from.
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Nicole Laino: Whenever we're aware of something, it's like the white car thing.
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Nicole Laino: When you're aware of something, when it's in your awareness, when it's in your experience, you start to see it everywhere.
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Nicole Laino: And this is a theme that I just see everywhere.
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Nicole Laino: And I'm seeing it everywhere for lots of reasons.
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Nicole Laino: If you listened to the January and February episodes that I did on this show for the Transits with Christina Luna, we talked about elements of this thing.
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Nicole Laino: If you listened to a lot of the episodes that I did in the month of January, mentioned this theme, and the reason for that is it's present now, and it's something that we have had theme that is going away in 2027.
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Nicole Laino: So what we're talking about today on the show, we're Talking about the 2027 change going from the cross of planning to the cross of the sleeping phoenix.
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Nicole Laino: Now, I did do an episode on this a couple years ago.
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Nicole Laino: It's been a while, which is why I'm revisiting it.
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Nicole Laino: Because I have a very different relationship.
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Nicole Laino: I'm seeing different things about it.
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Nicole Laino: I understand it so much more deeply than I did before.
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Nicole Laino: And I'm sure as this year goes on, I'm going to understand it even more and more deeply because I'm contemplating these things.
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Nicole Laino: I am.
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Nicole Laino: And this is just to clue you guys in on how you work with human design and how you work with a lot of this stuff.
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Nicole Laino: Some people think about it as a hard study.
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Nicole Laino: There's only so much information available on this stuff.
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Nicole Laino: So it's about allowing it to percolate, allowing it to marinate, allowing it to let this information and your awareness tune you to these themes out in the world and start to see what comes up for you.
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Nicole Laino: That's what this process is about.
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Nicole Laino: Contemplating is not about, like, hardcore studying and forcing answers out of something, which is how a lot of people approach human design.
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Nicole Laino: And I understand that because I did, too, in the beginning.
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Nicole Laino: But it's this gentle, kind of playful way of being in relationship to the information that you're in relationship with it.
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Nicole Laino: So it's like you're gently thinking about it.
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Nicole Laino: You're.
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Nicole Laino: It's in the back of your mind, but you're walking about your day, you're going about your life and then you see something that gives you a clue to something that you weren't even aware of a couple of years ago.
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Nicole Laino: That's how this works.
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Nicole Laino: So what I wanted to do, and that's what I mean about this, that I.
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Nicole Laino: When I did that episode in 2023, I think it was, it's episode 2 16.
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Nicole Laino: So if you want to go back and listen to it's still all relevant, it's all factually correct.
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Nicole Laino: I just feel like I am able to connect the dots in such a more meaningful way.
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Nicole Laino: And the depth of my knowledge of human design has obviously changed in the last two plus years.
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Nicole Laino: That where I am now versus where I was then.
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Nicole Laino: I'm a different person with a whole different host of experiences and lessons that I've learned.
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Nicole Laino: So that's why I wanted to do this.
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Nicole Laino: I feel like I'm bringing something really new to this conversation that we didn't cover in 2:16.
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Nicole Laino: But if you aren't familiar with these changes and you want to go deeper into like the foundations of what it means, the ABCs of it all, go back and listen to episode 216.
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Nicole Laino: We'll link it up in the show notes for you so you can go deeper into that.
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Nicole Laino: Okay.
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Nicole Laino: But today what we're gonna be focusing on, cause this shift is coming February 14th of 2027.
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Nicole Laino: We will officially end the cross of planning and enter into the cross of the Sleeping Phoenix.
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Nicole Laino: It's almost one year away.
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Nicole Laino: It's almost exactly one year away if you're listening to this at the time that the episode drops.
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Nicole Laino: So in this episode, what I wanna do, it's building on what we talked about in episode 216.
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Nicole Laino: We're going to go some different places with it, tying things together with what we're seeing right now.
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Nicole Laino: But really what I want to do is I want to share themes around the shift and what they will be.
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Nicole Laino: What are the differences between these two things?
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Nicole Laino: I am going touch on some of the foundations so you don't have to worry if you didn't listen to that last episode.
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Nicole Laino: You don't need to stop this and not listen to it.
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Nicole Laino: You can follow along with us.
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Nicole Laino: But if you want to go deeper, go back and listen to that one.
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Nicole Laino: I want to talk about how we're seeing this transition play out in real time.
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Nicole Laino: In front of us right now.
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Nicole Laino: How are we already seeing these different competing themes show up?
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Nicole Laino: How are we already seeing the battle between the Planner and the Phoenix?
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Nicole Laino: And what's the difference between these two creatures?
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Nicole Laino: Right.
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Nicole Laino: We're going to talk a little bit about what the role of human design is in all of this and how you can use it to help lead you through this change.
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Nicole Laino: And then I want to talk about what you can be doing now.
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Nicole Laino: How do you use this year to prepare yourself for what's coming?
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Nicole Laino: Because make no mistake, this is going to be a completely different way for humanity to operate.
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Nicole Laino: And what we're seeing now is the chaos that is coming from people not knowing what to do in this interregnum period, in this time between times.
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Nicole Laino: And how can you be an observer of this and not get caught up in all of it?
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Nicole Laino: That is one of the things.
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Nicole Laino: Like I think in 2023 when I did this, I had knowledge of this change, but I really didn't fully grasp energetically what was going.
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Nicole Laino: I understood logically what would happen.
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Nicole Laino: But now what I'm able to see is these things play out and from a place of almost neutrality.
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Nicole Laino: I'm not completely out of it, but that's what human design can help you with, is to pull you out of the fray so you're not caught up in the vortex of this energy that you're actually able to be an observer of this, to be able to see what is happening, to be an observer of this program.
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Nicole Laino: Cuz that is ultimately what we're talking about.
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Nicole Laino: We're talking about.
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Nicole Laino: We are programmed right now and have been since the year 1615.
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Nicole Laino: We have been programmed by the Cross of Planning and now we are going to be programmed by the Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix starting in February of 2027.
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Nicole Laino: These are very different themes, okay.
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Nicole Laino: Very different programs.
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Nicole Laino: I do want to say, if you are interested in this topic, I'm actually going to be teaching a workshop on this.
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Nicole Laino: So this will go worlds different, deeper than these two episodes ever could.
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Nicole Laino: I'm really going to be teaching about what this change is.
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Nicole Laino: I'm going to be showing you the details of it.
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Nicole Laino: There are actually.
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Nicole Laino: There's actually two other Crosses that are part of this.
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Nicole Laino: It's not just planning and the Phoenix.
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Nicole Laino: There are actually two other crosses at play in this whole greater program.
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Nicole Laino: There's one that's associated with the Cross of Planning and one that's associated with the Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix.
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Nicole Laino: They very often don't get talked about.
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Nicole Laino: We're going to go into that, I'm really going to show you how these themes are shifting from one to the other.
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Nicole Laino: We're going to break it down in great detail and we're going to talk about the changes that you can be a part of.
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Nicole Laino: If you are a spiritual worker, if you're a human design coach.
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Nicole Laino: A lot of certifications do not teach about this and they don't teach about it to the level that I'm going to be teaching about it in this workshop.
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Nicole Laino: But if you are an energetics person, a service provider or something where you guide people, I personally think that this workshop is required reading or required participation.
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Nicole Laino: This information in this class is really going to prepare you to be a leader.
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Nicole Laino: In fact, that's what we're calling it, is how to lead through the change and starts with leading yourself.
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Nicole Laino: And then it's going to be about how you lead others.
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Nicole Laino: How can you be a force of steadiness and calm in the eye of the storm for the people who are really caught up in it.
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Nicole Laino: There's great opportunity here, both for your business, but also just as a human being.
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Nicole Laino: You can be a steward throughout this, helping people make their way through this transition and understand it.
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Nicole Laino: So if you want in on that, this is a paid workshop because we are going deep.
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Nicole Laino: I am teaching, teaching in this.
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Nicole Laino: So we are going beyond just like themes.
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Nicole Laino: Like if you think this episode is great, forget about what you're going to see, what we're teaching in this.
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Nicole Laino: We're going to take you really deep into this.
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Nicole Laino: So if you want to get in on that workshop, all you have to do is DM me the word Phoenix on Instagram, I'm icolenofficial or go to nicolelaino.com phoenix and you can get it there.
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Nicole Laino: You can register and buy the workshop there.
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Nicole Laino: If you are a member of the Human Design Authority Lab or any of my other aligned brand builder or business by design.
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Nicole Laino: If you're part of my ecosystem of memberships and programs.
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Nicole Laino: You get this already.
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Nicole Laino: So don't buy it please, because you already get it.
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Nicole Laino: It comes with your membership.
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Nicole Laino: Okay, excellent.
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Nicole Laino: Let's dive in, shall we?
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Nicole Laino: Let's cover a little bit about cross of planning.
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Nicole Laino: The cross of planning is made up of four gates.
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Nicole Laino: The gates are gate 40, gate 37, gate 16, gate 9.
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Nicole Laino: Those four gates make up the cross of planning.
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Nicole Laino: Perhaps you are a cross of planning person you were built for this time it is.
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Nicole Laino: It's not a personal cross though.
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Nicole Laino: While it can be for you as an individual, what we're talking about here.
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Nicole Laino: Is we get a collective program that we are always under the influence of.
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Nicole Laino: And it tells us the greater themes for humanity.
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Nicole Laino: So themes for humanity were very much under and driven by themes of the cross of planning.
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Nicole Laino: The cross of planning was really about systems for systems.
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Nicole Laino: Let's build a system to take care of this.
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Nicole Laino: Ooh, we have this problem.
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Nicole Laino: Let's build a system to take care of that.
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Nicole Laino: This is how we ended up with schools.
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Nicole Laino: Schools are a cross of planning thing, okay?
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Nicole Laino: We have kids that need to be educated.
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Nicole Laino: Everybody should be educated.
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Nicole Laino: We should have a way of doing that uniformly so that kids are being educated on the right things.
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Nicole Laino: Here's how we're going to do it.
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Nicole Laino: We're going to develop a school system, right?
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Nicole Laino: How are we going to take care of people?
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Nicole Laino: They get sick, what are we going to do?
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Nicole Laino: A health care system.
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Nicole Laino: All of that is cross of planning stuff.
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Nicole Laino: CrossFit planning taught us to make deals.
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Nicole Laino: Okay?
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Nicole Laino: You have that skill, gate of skill 16, you've got that skill.
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Nicole Laino: Great.
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Nicole Laino: Here's what we want to do.
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Nicole Laino: Let's plan this out.
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Nicole Laino: Let's really get focused on it.
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Nicole Laino: And what is really needed here.
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Nicole Laino: Gates 40 and 37, the channel of community.
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Nicole Laino: What do we really need?
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Nicole Laino: How can we put those skills to use to build a system that will take care of everybody?
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Nicole Laino: That's going to help us build and grow and prosper, right?
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Nicole Laino: How do we grow the population?
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Nicole Laino: How do we take care of more people?
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Nicole Laino: The industrial revolution, very much a cross of planning thing, right?
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Nicole Laino: Growth and building and a bit of excess.
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Nicole Laino: And just like that, foundations of creating this world that we all live in.
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Nicole Laino: These systems, these hierarchies, the gate 40 and gate 30, these are very hierarchical gates and energies.
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Nicole Laino: So we have that, and then we have the cross of the sleeping phoenix.
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Nicole Laino: Now, cross of planning, I should also say, is ruled by this channel of the community, which is the channel of the bargain, which is the 40th gate and the 37th gate, connecting the ego center of support with the emotional, the solar plexus, the center of emotions.
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Nicole Laino: I take care of you take care of me.
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Nicole Laino: This is the bargain.
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Nicole Laino: This is the contract that we have between us.
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Nicole Laino: We have contracts as married couples.
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Nicole Laino: We have unspoken contracts between friends.
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Nicole Laino: We have contracts with our government.
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Nicole Laino: I pay my taxes, I get these things in return.
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Nicole Laino: Those are my rights.
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Nicole Laino: Those are the things that I am entitled to.
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Nicole Laino: Cross of planning stuff.
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Nicole Laino: All of this.
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Nicole Laino: Now, this is governed by that 40, 37 channel.
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Nicole Laino: That's what the leading energy is of it.
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Nicole Laino: And what we have is we have the 40th gate and the 37th gate are both ego tribal gates.
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Nicole Laino: These are part of the ego circuit.
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Nicole Laino: They are part of the tribal circuitry.
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Nicole Laino: And then Gate 16 and Gate 9 are part of the logic circuit in the collective circuit.
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Nicole Laino: So these are both logical collective gates.
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Nicole Laino: So we have two logical collective.
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Nicole Laino: But we get this tribal connection over on the other side.
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Nicole Laino: There's more energies in this, but we're simplifying this for the episode.
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Nicole Laino: We will get into more details of that second cross I was telling you about in the workshop.
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Nicole Laino: So if you want information on that, join the workshop.
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Nicole Laino: But we get a lot of tribal energy in the cross of planning.
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Nicole Laino: That is what governs it.
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Nicole Laino: Anytime in a cross, we have a channel.
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Nicole Laino: Whenever we have a channel being made in an incarnation cross, that channel takes the lead, no matter what.
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Nicole Laino: So we have all this tribal energy.
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Nicole Laino: It's about us, right?
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Nicole Laino: It's about our tribe, our people.
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Nicole Laino: And the cross of the Sleeping Phoenix is governed by the 3420 channel, which is a very different channel.
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Nicole Laino: It's the channel of charisma.
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Nicole Laino: This is individual energy, personal power, readiness.
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Nicole Laino: Let's go.
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Nicole Laino: I wanna do it.
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Nicole Laino: Let's go.
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Nicole Laino: It is an expression of personal power, right?
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Nicole Laino: So the cross of the sleeping Phoenix is four very different gates.
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Nicole Laino: It's the 34th gate, the 20th gate, the 55th gate, the Gate of Abundance, and the 59th gate, which is the gate of intimacy.
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Nicole Laino: So now we have this personal power and spiritual abundance and intimacy.
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Nicole Laino: Closeness, real intimacy.
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Nicole Laino: Like vulnerability, like not performative.
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Nicole Laino: Contractual.
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Nicole Laino: The 4037 can be a very contractual, transactional kind of relationship.
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Nicole Laino: I've got you've got me.
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Nicole Laino: The minute you break that bargain, I'm out.
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Nicole Laino: The moment I sense that there is an imbalance in this bargain, I might opt out of it and break the contract.
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Nicole Laino: Because you broke it first.
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Nicole Laino: That's how 4037 can operate.
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Nicole Laino: We've been under that in our world.
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Nicole Laino: Now we're going to something else which is not as interested in the tribe.
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Nicole Laino: In fact, it's not interested in it at all.
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Nicole Laino: These are all individual gates except the 59th gate, which is tribal defense, which is a little bit different than the eco circuit.
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Nicole Laino: We're splitting hairs here, but still we lean in the individual.
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Nicole Laino: We are heavily in the individual with this one.
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Nicole Laino: And then we have that second cross as well that we'll discuss in the workshop, which is also heavily individual.
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Nicole Laino: So now we have these two things where we're going from.
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Nicole Laino: Let's build stuff for all of us.
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Nicole Laino: Let's build what.
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Nicole Laino: What do we all need, like that whole systems thing to.
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Nicole Laino: I'm not really interested in systems.
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Nicole Laino: I'm interested in me and my journey and what I want and my expansion.
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Nicole Laino: Gate 55 is the gate of abundance.
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Nicole Laino: So these themes, we're already seeing these themes play out in real time for us.
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Nicole Laino: So how have we seen this?
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Nicole Laino: We're seeing systems, maybe we're seeing how we're not really trusting the systems that exist anymore.
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Nicole Laino: We're starting to question things that we never questioned before.
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Nicole Laino: So when you look at things like in the 1950s, where we had.
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Nicole Laino: And I'm speaking about in America, it's.
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Nicole Laino: It was largely the rest of the world that did this as well.
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Nicole Laino: But I'm American, so this is my experience.
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Nicole Laino: But if we look at, like American values, traditional American values, we have the 1950s family that as they called the nuclear family.
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Nicole Laino: This mom, dad, two kids, suburban house, dad works, mom stays home.
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Nicole Laino: This like traditional family values thing.
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Nicole Laino: We have seen it go away.
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Nicole Laino: And some people say it's like the erosion of values, of people meaning anything to each other.
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Nicole Laino: We have seen.
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Nicole Laino: Some people say it's because God isn't in our world as much anymore.
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Nicole Laino: Once we took God out, then we stopped caring about each other.
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Nicole Laino: What human design has taught me and astrology has taught me is that the weather, the cosmic weather, the energies that we can't see, that we don't know are happening, that are programming us, that the question becomes, is this really a thing that's playing out here?
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Nicole Laino: Or are we just seeing themes change?
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Nicole Laino: Are we just seeing the natural evolution as we end certain cycles and begin new ones?
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Nicole Laino: Because the ending of the cycle of the cross of planning would say that we're going to rethink what marriage looks like.
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Nicole Laino: We're going to rethink what family looks like.
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Nicole Laino: We're going to rethink what government looks like.
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Nicole Laino: And the cross of the sleeping phoenix says, I'm interested in me and my journey.
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Nicole Laino: So we're seeing this, aren't we?
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Nicole Laino: We are seeing even the.
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Nicole Laino: And I could make a million examples.
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Nicole Laino: I'll give you a few we can look at the shift from.
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Nicole Laino: I remember my grandfather was.
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Nicole Laino: He worked for General Electric.
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Nicole Laino: He loved that company.
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Nicole Laino: He worked there his entire career until he retired.
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Nicole Laino: He had a little stint where he stopped working there.
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Nicole Laino: He was still working there, but he went to war to support his country.
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Nicole Laino: So he took a leave from work, but then went right back to work there.
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Nicole Laino: They gave him leave and allowed him to do that, which was like a thing I still have.
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Nicole Laino: I have the letter of him requesting to.
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Nicole Laino: To take a leave to go to war, which I think is so sweet and interesting.
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Nicole Laino: That was something that he did.
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Nicole Laino: And then he remained loyal to that company forever.
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Nicole Laino: And that company gave him stock options, and those stock options supported my grandmother till the day she died.
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Nicole Laino: That doesn't really exist anymore.
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Nicole Laino: We don't see that so much.
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Nicole Laino: I'm not going to say it doesn't happen.
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Nicole Laino: It does.
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Nicole Laino: But we don't have that same bargain with the corporations, do we?
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Nicole Laino: We don't see that as much.
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Nicole Laino: We're seeing that erosion of the bargain between the employee and the employer.
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Nicole Laino: And what are people doing?
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Nicole Laino: A lot of people are opting out of that relationship altogether.
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Nicole Laino: We have AI coming in now.
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Nicole Laino: AI We've got Amazon saying in a leaked email from their top brass saying how they want to fire everybody, 500,000 jobs.
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Nicole Laino: They want to get rid of them and replace them with robots.
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Nicole Laino: Now, how close they are to being able to actually implement that, I don't know.
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Nicole Laino: Probably not very close, but probably closer than we logically think.
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Nicole Laino: Right?
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Nicole Laino: Innovation can move fast when there is an appetite to make it happen.
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Nicole Laino: They want to get rid of the people.
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Nicole Laino: And I'm not saying this to scare you, I'm saying that.
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Nicole Laino: And we can look at these people as evil and we can.
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Nicole Laino: We can have our thoughts about that, or we can shift things and change things so that we just say that's innovation.
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Nicole Laino: And we shift the way that we operate in the world.
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Nicole Laino: We shift our leaders, we shift the way that we depend on these companies and corporations.
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Nicole Laino: We see a lot of people, they're opting for entrepreneurship, the gig economy.
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Nicole Laino: All of these things, I think, are signs and signals about what's happening in the world.
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Nicole Laino: People intuitively understanding that things are changing.
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Nicole Laino: What was safe before is no longer safe.
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Nicole Laino: We can't count on these things before they're feeling the change, they're feeling that shift, and they're saying, you know what?
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Nicole Laino: Maybe I want to make my own way.
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Nicole Laino: That's some 3420 stuff.
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Nicole Laino: And even though we're not there yet, even though we're not in that energy yet, we can feel it coming.
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Nicole Laino: People ask me this all the time, if I'm, can I feel a transit coming, if I'm going to have this activated in transit, or can I feel it coming?
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Nicole Laino: Of course you can.
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Nicole Laino: This is where in astrology we have the orbs, right?
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Nicole Laino: How many degrees out are we from this being an exact matchup?
20:26
Nicole Laino: There's always.
20:26
Nicole Laino: And that's Just degrees of when you will feel it.
20:29
Nicole Laino: You'll feel it strongest when it's exact.
20:32
Nicole Laino: When it's right on top of each other or right opposite each other.
20:35
Nicole Laino: We.
20:36
Nicole Laino: The degrees tell us.
20:38
Nicole Laino: So we are in degrees of this happening.
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Nicole Laino: Okay.
20:42
Nicole Laino: People ask me that all the time about the nodes.
20:44
Nicole Laino: How will I notice the South Node and the North Node change?
20:48
Nicole Laino: Is it gonna be like on the day that it happens that I shift over into this North Node theme, or will I feel it happening?
20:55
Nicole Laino: It's been my experience coaching hundreds of people now through this and also going through that shift.
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Nicole Laino: My Uranus opposition of the South Node to the North Node gate, I certainly felt that shift.
21:07
Nicole Laino: And I absolutely felt how different it was when I was right on top of it and when I crossed over it.
21:15
Nicole Laino: So I felt it coming.
21:17
Nicole Laino: And at the time, I think I thought that I was experiencing it.
21:22
Nicole Laino: But it wasn't until I got to the other side of it that I was like, oh, no.
21:25
Nicole Laino: It was nothing like what it is now.
21:28
Nicole Laino: It felt like it was, but it was just from my frame of reference how I was experiencing it.
21:33
Nicole Laino: I hope that makes sense.
21:34
Nicole Laino: Like, we feel it coming and we think, ooh, I think I'm there already when someone explains it to you.
21:39
Nicole Laino: But you don't realize until you get to the point.
21:42
Nicole Laino: It's like you.
21:43
Nicole Laino: You don't know until.
21:44
Nicole Laino: And it wasn't until I got to that point and I shifted over into 46 gate territory and I shift over into this North Node territory.
21:52
Nicole Laino: Then I go, oh, yeah, now this is what it feels like on the other side of the fence.
21:57
Nicole Laino: I didn't really get it.
21:58
Nicole Laino: I could see what was there, but I wasn't feeling it the way that I thought I was.
22:04
Nicole Laino: And so I think it's the same thing.
22:06
Nicole Laino: I think it's the same thing here.
22:07
Nicole Laino: I think we are seeing these things.
22:08
Nicole Laino: We are seeing systems be tested.
22:11
Nicole Laino: We are seeing leadership be tested.
22:15
Nicole Laino: We are starting to ask different questions.
22:17
Nicole Laino: The 37th gate, I talked about this in my Human Design New Year episode, and I talked about this in the Transit episode I did with Christina.
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Nicole Laino: I Talked about the 40 37, and I talked about the 37th gate showing up a couple of times in the New Year report.
22:32
Nicole Laino: And the 37th gate questions leadership.
22:37
Nicole Laino: It's in the fifth line in one of its placements.
22:40
Nicole Laino: And the 37th gate in the fifth line says, Only the exemplary leader shall be trusted.
22:48
Nicole Laino: The 40th gate rewards people for being true.
22:53
Nicole Laino: So I think that we're starting to get.
22:55
Nicole Laino: That's the interesting thing about this is that in the time we are in right now.
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Nicole Laino: I think that's why this feels so big, is because this is energy that we are saying goodbye to.
23:05
Nicole Laino: But the universe also gave us.
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Nicole Laino: I think it's till May we're in the 4037 for our nodes here that it gave us our way of seeing so we could look out through 4037 eyes one last time while we're under this cross of planning and start asking the questions about what we want to keep.
23:27
Nicole Laino: What do we want to change before we change over?
23:30
Nicole Laino: And I don't want to say that it's too late because it's not.
23:33
Nicole Laino: Because we're going to talk about what you can do this year to be on top of this.
23:39
Nicole Laino: But it isn't just an individual thing.
23:41
Nicole Laino: There's some things that need to be shored up so that we're positioned to be able to lead through this.
23:49
Nicole Laino: If they take away your freedom, if they take away your rights, if they use the system to break the system, after they have excluded millions and millions of people from it, after they have rigged the rules in their favor and in the favor of the unsavory leaders, if they have burned the alliances and broken trust everywhere else where we don't have friends anymore, if we allow these things to happen over this next year, I think we have a very good chance of going into the not so fun side of what the cross of the Sleeping Phoenix could look like.
24:29
Nicole Laino: We still have time to make something happen and shift things both on a personal level and on a tribal level and on a collective level.
24:39
Nicole Laino: For us to change who we have in charge, how we empower our leaders, what we support, and how we are going to govern ourselves because we are going to.
24:51
Nicole Laino: Self leadership is going to be so much more important in 2027 and beyond.
24:57
Nicole Laino: But we have to be able to have self leadership.
24:59
Nicole Laino: We can't have our rights stripped away where we no longer have the freedom to be leaders of ourselves.
25:06
Nicole Laino: We need the freedom in order to have this cross of the Sleeping Phoenix actually be something that any of us wants to be a part.
25:13
Nicole Laino: Otherwise it can be a very dark time.
25:16
Nicole Laino: I'm not a believer in that it has to be dark.
25:19
Nicole Laino: There are some people that do believe that.
25:22
Nicole Laino: I think we have a choice.
25:24
Nicole Laino: I think that we have a choice right now about how we want this to be.
25:29
Nicole Laino: And this might be one last hurrah for everybody to get together and make a movement about changing something for the good.
25:38
Nicole Laino: So the role human design has in this, and this is one of the things that kind of goes around and around in my head.
25:44
Nicole Laino: So Ra always said that come time, the time of the cross of the sleeping Phoenix, come 2027, you're really going to need human design, so you're making decisions correctly as yourself.
25:58
Nicole Laino: And I heard that.
25:59
Nicole Laino: And I remember the first time I heard it, I was like, yeah, that's somebody trying to sell me his system.
26:03
Nicole Laino: And I know he believes in it and all of that, but I'm a bit of a cynic when it comes to some of this stuff.
26:08
Nicole Laino: I don't just blindly accept things.
26:10
Nicole Laino: They have to.
26:11
Nicole Laino: I have to sit with them for a while and.
26:13
Nicole Laino: But I understand what more of what he meant now.
26:15
Nicole Laino: And I evolved too.
26:17
Nicole Laino: Like, I didn't think he was full of it for very long.
26:19
Nicole Laino: It was.
26:20
Nicole Laino: I just had a questioning period, which is healthy, I think.
26:23
Nicole Laino: But where I'm at now, I'm like, oh, I get it.
26:27
Nicole Laino: Once we go into the Sleeping Phoenix, where our systems change, where we are maybe asked to elect new leadership, there's a whole other concept that I can't really get into in this episode because it's like its own episode.
26:43
Nicole Laino: But there are these concepts in human design that are about group energy dynamics.
26:48
Nicole Laino: They're called the penta and the wa.
26:51
Nicole Laino: Penta is small groups, wa big groups talking about the wa here.
26:57
Nicole Laino: So the wah, big groups.
26:58
Nicole Laino: It's like group think.
27:00
Nicole Laino: It is the mob mentality and what very high level.
27:05
Nicole Laino: I hadn't even planned on talking about this, so we're going a little bit off script here, but.
27:08
Nicole Laino: And I'll try to make it quick, but the wa dynamics, really what they are, is when we have group energy dynamics, what happens is certain energies get magnified, certain energies get muted.
27:20
Nicole Laino: So if you have some of these, what we call master channels of these, the penta or the wah, what we get is people who stand out very much in those type of situations.
27:31
Nicole Laino: So when you have a group of 16 or more people, you get this wah thing.
27:34
Nicole Laino: You get a crowd, Right?
27:37
Nicole Laino: So how do we move a crowd?
27:38
Nicole Laino: A crowd, we move with very specific types of energy.
27:44
Nicole Laino: And what Rao, I think was saying was that when we go into 2027, when we make these shift, when the systems and the structures aren't as strong as they were in the early 1900s and the middle 1900s, and even back in the early 2000s, we had a much more structured sound set of systems.
28:07
Nicole Laino: And now we're questioning them, and now some of them may fall or change very drastically, that you have to be making decisions as yourself.
28:16
Nicole Laino: What that really means is you can't be getting swept up in the energetics of group think.
28:24
Nicole Laino: You can't get swept up in the energetics of you being part of a tribe.
28:33
Nicole Laino: And by tribe, I don't mean the collective.
28:36
Nicole Laino: Good.
28:36
Nicole Laino: I just want to finish this thought.
28:38
Nicole Laino: So you.
28:38
Nicole Laino: I'm not leaving you hanging with what the hell is she talking about?
28:41
Nicole Laino: So if you go to a concert and I'm a big U2 fan, if you listen to this show, you probably know that I'm a huge U2 fan.
28:50
Nicole Laino: It is my happy place.
28:51
Nicole Laino: Why?
28:52
Nicole Laino: Because when I go there and I'm in that wa, I am in this group of 16 or more people and there's a leader on stage, Bono, they're singing songs they are hyping us up with.
29:05
Nicole Laino: And one of the things I love about them is that I feel like it's very high frequency music.
29:09
Nicole Laino: There's always hope.
29:10
Nicole Laino: Even when there's despair.
29:11
Nicole Laino: There is always this no, but there's always hope.
29:14
Nicole Laino: We can always do better.
29:15
Nicole Laino: We can always better.
29:17
Nicole Laino: And that makes everybody emotional.
29:18
Nicole Laino: It's a very emotional thing and we all get charged up by it.
29:21
Nicole Laino: And I feel like I can fly.
29:22
Nicole Laino: I am.
29:23
Nicole Laino: I am hopped up on that.
29:26
Nicole Laino: When I was a kid, I donated to Amnesty International with my allowance money because Bono told me to.
29:36
Nicole Laino: So I'm not saying that's right.
29:37
Nicole Laino: I'm not saying.
29:38
Nicole Laino: But he made me care about something and I then took action from that place.
29:44
Nicole Laino: Now, did I do it because it was the right thing to do?
29:47
Nicole Laino: Did I do it or did it.
29:48
Nicole Laino: I was.
29:48
Nicole Laino: I influenced.
29:49
Nicole Laino: And that's really what we're talking about.
29:50
Nicole Laino: The ability to be influenced by groups.
29:53
Nicole Laino: Now you can take another set where you can say that there are.
29:57
Nicole Laino: We can talk about political rallies.
30:00
Nicole Laino: We could talk about the Nazis.
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Nicole Laino: That was a wa.
30:03
Nicole Laino: We can talk about the political rallies that are going on now.
30:06
Nicole Laino: We can talk about January 6th.
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Nicole Laino: Wah, wah.
30:10
Nicole Laino: So if you are in that crowd, you're not thinking as yourself.
30:13
Nicole Laino: You're thinking as part of this energetic mechanism that's happening.
30:20
Nicole Laino: So when RA talked about needing to make decisions as yourself, the role that human design has in this whole thing is pulling you out of the program.
30:30
Nicole Laino: When you.
30:31
Nicole Laino: Pulling you out of the cross of the sleeping Phoenix, pulling you out of the cross of planning, pulling you out of the wa.
30:37
Nicole Laino: All of these energetic dynamics that are unconscious to us, they don't matter if you are coming back to your truth, your authority, and you have to be aware of that.
30:50
Nicole Laino: It has to be a process that you are committed to sticking with.
30:55
Nicole Laino: So when someone comes along and feeds you a line of bullshit and you're caught up in the group, that isn't your thinking that you're going to.
31:04
Nicole Laino: Because your mind can help you rationalize anything.
31:08
Nicole Laino: And if the leader of that energetic movement of that wa is telling you to believe something, you just might.
31:14
Nicole Laino: But if you come back to your authority, what is true for you, and you are not conditioned and hopped up on the emotions of that crowd and hopped up on the ego of that leader, if you are able to be yourself and be clear, you will make whatever decision is correct for you.
31:34
Nicole Laino: It's not that you are making the correct choice that I think it's the correct choice for you.
31:39
Nicole Laino: And that's all that matters.
31:41
Nicole Laino: And that's your contribution, not just to yourself, but to the whole.
31:45
Nicole Laino: Because clean consciousness, that is something.
31:47
Nicole Laino: This is very much a cross of a sleeping Phoenix theme.
31:50
Nicole Laino: We are going into an age of intuition.
31:53
Nicole Laino: We are going into an age of energetic integrity.
31:59
Nicole Laino: Or not.
31:59
Nicole Laino: Remember, everything is going to be about.
32:01
Nicole Laino: We are either going to have these things or we are going to be in the shadow of them.
32:06
Nicole Laino: So the work that we can do in this year leading up to it, and it starts with coming to that workshop and really understanding the depths of what is happening here.
32:14
Nicole Laino: We're going to break this down gate by gate, and I'm going to walk you through how we lead ourselves through this.
32:20
Nicole Laino: But this change that we're going through, this shift, how we use this year, is to understand what that looks like.
32:28
Nicole Laino: It's to decondition ourselves.
32:30
Nicole Laino: It's to feel your feelings.
32:33
Nicole Laino: It is to understand some of these fundamental things.
32:36
Nicole Laino: Go back and listen to the.
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Nicole Laino: The Human Design New Year episode that I did in January.
32:42
Nicole Laino: Go listen to the January and February transit episodes I did with Christina because we talked about this.
32:47
Nicole Laino: I have been Talking about the 25th gate, the gate of Innocence, the Gate of Universal Love.
32:54
Nicole Laino: This is a gate.
32:55
Nicole Laino: This is the Neptune in Aries gate that we're getting, which is.
32:59
Nicole Laino: It says that we're lifting the veil on what universal love really is, on what innocence really is.
33:07
Nicole Laino: And what it teaches us or what it's asking us and begging us to do is to heal your wounds, because your wound is contributing to the greater wound.
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Nicole Laino: And I think one of the things that we are seeing right now is collective pain.
33:24
Nicole Laino: We are seeing so many people feel helpless.
33:27
Nicole Laino: We are seeing so many people in pain, physical pain, emotional pain.
33:31
Nicole Laino: And some of us can spiritually bypass this and say, oh, I can't look at that.
33:35
Nicole Laino: I Can't do that.
33:36
Nicole Laino: And it's good to have a healthy relationship with this.
33:38
Nicole Laino: You can't be looking at it all day long because you'll drive yourself crazy and you'll just be frying your nervous system.
33:44
Nicole Laino: But it is important to look.
33:46
Nicole Laino: It's important not to look away.
33:47
Nicole Laino: It's important to really ask yourself what you are feeling right then, not whether you think it's right or wrong.
33:56
Nicole Laino: What do you feel?
33:57
Nicole Laino: Does this feel good to you?
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Nicole Laino: Are you emotional about it?
34:01
Nicole Laino: And can you deal with those emotions?
34:04
Nicole Laino: Because what we are experiencing right now is we are experiencing a world that's been full of hurt for a really long time, hasn't felt that hurt.
34:13
Nicole Laino: And now we are just going around triggering each other, saying, this hurts so bad.
34:19
Nicole Laino: I can't sit with it here.
34:21
Nicole Laino: Hurt people, hurt people, right?
34:23
Nicole Laino: We know that.
34:23
Nicole Laino: I tell my son that all the time, never make a judgment about where somebody is coming from.
34:28
Nicole Laino: We don't know why people do the things that they do, but we do know that hurt people.
34:32
Nicole Laino: That person might be going through something right now.
34:34
Nicole Laino: So let's give them the benefit of the doubt and protect yourself.
34:38
Nicole Laino: Can we do the same?
34:40
Nicole Laino: So I'm gonna lead this one here because this is a really big topic, and I feel like I said everything that I can at this point without going another 45 minutes to go deeper into all of these themes.
34:54
Nicole Laino: So if you are interested in this, if this.
34:57
Nicole Laino: If you are interested in leading people through this change, if you.
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Nicole Laino: Like I said, if you're a coach, a spiritual healer, or anybody who guides people, you really should come to this workshop.
35:08
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35:19
Nicole Laino: This should be required coursework for you.
35:21
Nicole Laino: This is like part of the core curriculum.
35:24
Nicole Laino: Because otherwise you're going to get swept up in the waves of what's happening.
35:29
Nicole Laino: You're not going to be able to remain objective.
35:31
Nicole Laino: You're not going to be able to remain neutral, and you won't know how to lead yourself, and then you won't be able to lead others.
35:38
Nicole Laino: There's a real opportunity to be a leader for the future right now.
35:42
Nicole Laino: And the work starts now.
35:45
Nicole Laino: So if you want to get in on that, please come to the workshop.
35:47
Nicole Laino: Please join us.
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35:51
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35:55
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Nicole Laino: Okay, I'm going to leave it here.
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