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“Bagged and Tagged at Chopping Mall” - Xenomania Episode 19 · Xenomania

• 0:15
  Kearns: So you got, you got a shopping mall,
• 0:18
  Ryan: Yep.
• 0:19
  Kearns: And there's, nobody's allowed to wear pants
• 0:22
  Ryan: Or
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  Kearns: there's, there's, or shirts at times and there's Sex is not optional.
• 0:27
  It's mandatory.
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  And there's killer robots name that movie
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  Ryan: chopping mall.
• 0:34
  Kearns: mall Chopping Ball.
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  Ryan: an eighties
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  Kearns: It's an eighties horror film
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  Ryan: in a nutshell.
• 0:40
  Kearns: in a nutshell.
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  Yeah.
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  Jon: eighties.
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  Kearns: It's riding The, uh, short circuit fandom wave came out the same year.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  They didn't have to deal with promo
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  Jon: year for robots.
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  Kearns: robot.
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  Yes, it was, wasn't When did, um, Rocky, Rocky four come out?
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  Ryan: Oh
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  Kearns: 'cause there was a big robot in that too.
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  That was like the robot Renaissance era.
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  Ryan: 87.
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  I mean, happy birthday Pauly.
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  Jon: I just wanted Rocky to fight it.
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  Ryan: beat up
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  Kearns: That would've been cool.
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  Rocky five should have been.
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  Mad versus machine, and then you find out it's like the new Terminator
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  movie T three, well actually it would've been T two if they, if
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  they got it out before T two.
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  But anyway, chopping mall.
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  Yeah, it's, it's something, it, it is what it is and it's good at what it does.
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  Ryan: Yes,
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: and it has,
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  Kearns: it has,
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  Ryan: I'll say it right
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  Kearns: I would say, right outright, it has
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  Ryan: from one of our
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  Kearns: from
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  Ryan: um, villains in our film series, Angus Grimm.
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  Jon: Yep.
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  Ryan: He
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  Kearns: and what does he play?
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  Ryan: in a small cameo asking about those robots.
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  Kearns: Robot?
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  That damn robots,
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  Ryan: Those damn robots over
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  Kearns: robot.
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  He says, boy, go find those robots
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  Ryan: but he's credited
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  Kearns: discredited
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  Ryan: Lawrence
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  Kearns: as
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  Ryan: not
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  Jon: Yep.
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  His, his
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  Kearns: real name.
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  Interesting.
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  Jon: Yep.
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  Ryan: Because we were watching
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  Kearns: We were watching it.
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  Ryan: and I, and I was like, wait a minute,
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  Kearns: Wait a minute.
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  Ryan: man?
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  Kearns: tall man,
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  Ryan: yeah.
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  Kearns: like, yeah.
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  Ryan: it's
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  Kearns: I'm like,
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: weird.
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  Like,
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  Ryan: he's
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  Kearns: no, he's not talking to Mike.
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  He's not talking to Reggie.
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  Ryan: just in the mall,
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  Kearns: He says in the mall,
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  Ryan: no.
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  Kearns: we
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  Jon: we
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  Kearns: have a very
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  Jon: cast in here with a lot of like eighties horror bonafides.
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  A lot of you get Kelly Marone
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  Fast
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  Kearns: Concert high
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  Jon: Night
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  Kearns: of the,
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  Ryan: Ryan's
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  Kearns: get Brian Hope.
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  Tony O'Dell, who's in karate too.
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  Ryan: Yep.
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  Kearns: Yep.
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  Jon: You
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  Kearns: get Russell Todd,
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  Jon: from
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  Kearns: Friday the 13th too.
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  Yeah.
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  And that.
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  Jon: course Barbara Crampton who's in everything.
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  Ryan: Especially my favorite
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  Kearns: My favorite puppet master.
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  Yeah.
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  The ever looming puppet master.
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  Jon: animate her.
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Jon: Mary in a small role, she's in Night of the Comet and like tons and tons of
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  Kearns: Who
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  Jon: movies.
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  Kearns: they just went through the Rolodex.
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  They're like, all right, get everybody.
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  Jon: Okay, so
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  Kearns: This is,
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  Jon: this is,
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  Kearns: uh, Roger Corman, introduction of a Jim Winky.
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  Jon: movie.
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  Kearns: okay.
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  If you go through Jim Winkys, directorial
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  Jon: IMDV,
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  Kearns: you get a sense that the boobs in this movie are not
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  Jon: an
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  Kearns: isolated introduction
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  Jon: his
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  Kearns: career.
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  In fact,
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  Jon: that's
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  Kearns: mostly what he does.
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  He knows how to get butts in seats.
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  Jon: For example,
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  Kearns: For example.
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  I just
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  Jon: took down one of his other
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  Kearns: director efforts
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  Jon: the
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  Kearns: Bear Wedge project
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  Jon: two.
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  Scared topless.
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  Kearns: He's like a USA up all night connoisseur.
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  That's what it sounds like.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: made movies for right there,
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  Jon: I
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  Kearns: think a lot of his movies were even.
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  Jon: beyond that.
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  I
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  Kearns: I think he had a lot of
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  Jon: Max
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  Kearns: movies.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Ryan: research
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  Kearns: my research he did.
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  Yeah.
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  Ryan: A lot of skin.
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  Kearns: A lot of skin.
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  Jon: The
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  Kearns: King of
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  Jon: X.
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  Ryan: the king of
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  Kearns: I bet he's made Mint off it too.
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  Like he's, he's driving around in a brand newish Corvette
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  Jon: he's also the voice
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  Kearns: robot.
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  Ryan: Yep.
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  Kearns: Oh, cool.
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  That's pretty cool.
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  That's so the robots have voices to the listeners, Johnny Five is alive.
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  Jon: yes.
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  sinister than Johnny Five.
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  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
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  Oscar, I am really pissed off.
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  Ryan: the best scene.
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  Jon: And we have another celebrity location too.
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  Kearns: Oh really?
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  Ryan: Yep.
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  Kearns: yeah.
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  Where's that?
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  Jon: mall as Commando.
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  Kearns: Oh, sweet.
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  That's pretty cool.
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  I wish that they ended up in the same reeds outside of the airport as
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  commando when he jumps out of the plane.
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  But this movie got a good deal of action.
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  Uh, for a horror flick.
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  Ryan: Do you
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  or
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  Kearns: Protectors are Kill Bot.
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  Ryan: That's the question.
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  Kearns: I like protectors more because it's
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  Ryan: Okay.
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  Jon: less
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  Kearns: than a.
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  Ryan: Fair.
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  Fair.
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  Kearns: I like when things like that have like non-threatening.
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  Jon: names and then they're super dangerous.
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  Kearns: That's a great idea.
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  Actually,
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  Ryan: but that was the original
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  Kearns: that was the original title and that
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  Ryan: tanked.
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  Jon: Yeah, kill bots wasn't fun.
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  Kearns: topping mall.
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  It's such a better title.
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  Ryan: the poster severed
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  Kearns: mean,
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  Jon: there's not a lot of chopping,
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  Kearns: yeah, it just, it just goes,
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  Ryan: There's a little
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  Kearns: um,
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  Ryan: They go right for the jugular.
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  Jon: a little, but it's
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  Kearns: it.
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  Jon: mostly lasers.
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  Ryan: True freaking laser beans.
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  Kearns: When you think chopping mall though, you think slasher,
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  some dude is going in the dressing rooms and then you watch the trailer
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  and you're like, what is this?
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  Is that a garbage can?
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  And then it's just like, and it rolls off to massacre people.
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  It's a good trailer, by the way.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Ryan: good.
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  The whole movie is, it's a hidden gem rotten tomatoes.
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  It's 57% like rotten.
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  I don't, I, I think that's a lie.
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  It's a lie.
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  Kearns: I don't know.
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  I, I put a lot of stock and rotten tomatoes, but it's because
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  of, of the campy boominess, I think, more than anything.
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  Ryan: It's true.
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  Jon: Yeah, because they, it,
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  Kearns: A lot of those eighties movies,
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  Jon: do well on Rotten Tomatoes.
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  Kearns: the porkies, clones and stuff like that.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: Yeah,
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: like the, even the ski movies and stuff, they don't go into full topless.
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  I think maybe a couple of 'em do, but it's mostly just the eighties.
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  They lean further into the eighties action and that the montagey nature
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  of it all, which made eighties movies great, eighties movies.
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  This one, it doesn't commit to either side.
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  It just kind of does both parallel.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: It's a good hang.
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  It is.
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  'cause it does 'em both well, but it doesn't like, you know what I mean?
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  It's not trying to be a great movie.
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  That's another example of one that's not trying to be a great movie.
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  Jon: knows what it is.
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  Kearns: Yep.
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  And there's the, there's no, well there, Paul Blart.
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  The robots are Paul Blart, but
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: yeah.
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  Yeah,
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  Ryan: And they
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  Kearns: some super good acting in it too.
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  Like it's waiting, it's gonna pick us off in beer, one by one
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  man, and the people are, hold up.
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  So let's go through the briefly, like what sets the robots off.
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  These are robots that are made to protect, for God's sakes.
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  Jon: Yeah, so, so these are,
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  Kearns: Yeah, they're, the robots are a multi security initiative.
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  It's kind of excessive.
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  Jon: I
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  Kearns: mean,
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  Jon: to
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  Kearns: begin with, they have the ability to incapacitate
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  Jon: uh, a
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  Kearns: seat.
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  Jon: like,
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  Kearns: not let, but they
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  Jon: start
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  Kearns: out with the capacity to stop it, and then there's a lightning storm that
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  Jon: strikes
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  Kearns: them all and fries the circuit and they become
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  Jon: independent.
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  Ryan: Very independent.
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  Kearns: Now, are they full-blown AI or are they just malfunctioning
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  thinking everybody's a thief?
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  Like do they want to kill or is it just like a glitch?
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  Wanna kill
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  Jon: and they do not
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  Kearns: and thief?
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  Not
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  Jon: or
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  Kearns: like when in the demonstration, you know, they
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  Jon: show, oh, you
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  Kearns: just need your ID card.
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  So it doesn't mistake you for a criminal if you're in the mall after hours.
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  They, once the, the lightning has struck, there is
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  Jon: no
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  Kearns: recognition of an ID card.
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  It just wants you dead and it doesn't want you to wear pants while it kills you.
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  Let's do a few of like your favorite kills.
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  There's been, there's a couple of good ones.
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  Ryan: Well, mine is, uh, I'm trying to think of her name.
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  Um, uh, Leslie.
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  Kearns: Nobody's.
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  Yeah, I was gonna say, just for the listeners, nobody's memorable.
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  Just so you know.
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  The fact that he got her name to come up in his mind is, is remarkable to me.
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  Ryan: I
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  Kearns: Leslie,
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  Ryan: Leslie's
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  Kearns: is she one of the blondes?
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  Ryan: yes.
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  Kearns: One of the five?
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  Jon: the more endowed
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Ryan: And the bitchy one,
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  Kearns: And the bitchy one, I would say.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: one.
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  But she goes to
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  Kearns: But she goes to find her boyfriend Mike, because Mike had
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  to go get her Virginia Slims.
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  Ryan: And
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  Kearns: Yeah, I mean it's what you do for your lady.
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  Ryan: well, he did and he got killed
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  Kearns: He got killed for it.
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  Ryan: Id
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  Kearns: It's also what you do for your lady.
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  Oh yeah, exactly.
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  Ryan: but
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  Kearns: Are you 21?
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  Ryan: well, you work at the
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  Kearns: You work at Point?
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  Yeah.
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  True
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  Ryan: Just karate chop.
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  Kearns: karate job.
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  But um,
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  Ryan: It's funny
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  Kearns: it's funny 'cause she's running and you see a laser shoot at her and
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  you see him like, you hear the pew p
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  Ryan: and then she turns
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  Kearns: and then she turns around and you see this big glass.
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  Ryan: and it's like a watermelon
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  Kearns: like a watermelon
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  Ryan: And everyone's
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  Kearns: and everyone's watching it.
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  They're like
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  Ryan: Leslie, what?
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  What happened?
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  Kearns: exploded, Leslie.
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  Ryan: Very
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  Jon: Leslie's definitely my favorite.
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  Kearns: That's your favorite one.
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  It's,
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  Jon: Definitely.
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  Kearns: right?
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  Jon: Uh.
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  Kearns: Uh, yeah.
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  So that's the best part about it.
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  I liked the trying them, trying to make it somewhat creepy.
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  'cause robots in this sense, the way they were doing it are not creepy.
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  When they knocked over all the aquariums or terrariums and all the
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  creepy crawleys were getting everybody.
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  I enjoyed that.
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  That was stupid.
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  Ryan: That was a good
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: The whole movie's stupid.
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  Ryan: I felt bad for Dick.
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  Jon: Like I, I mean,
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  oh, I love
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  Kearns: Dick Miller, I love Dick Miller.
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  Dick Miller's gonna become very prominent in this episode.
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  Mm.
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  Jon: I.
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  Ryan: Dick Miller's such a
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  Kearns: Dick Miller's such a good actor and I knew he was gonna die.
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  And
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  Ryan: Dick Miller, poor Dick
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  Kearns: I mean, you see Dick Miller
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  Jon: a
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  Kearns: in movies and
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  Jon: it's a
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  Kearns: a pretty good chance he's gonna die.
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  Ryan: true, he does
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  Kearns: Now we have to do a deep dive.
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  Dick Miller movie's in the Top five where he makes it to the end of the movie.
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  Ryan: That's like
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  Kearns: That'll be good.
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  Ryan: that that might not
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  Kearns: That might not happen.
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  Yeah.
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  Oh, John's got it working.
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  I, I
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  Jon: well, I mean,
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  Kearns: Spoiler Dick Miller figures vary prominently in my top box.
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  Okay.
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  Got it.
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  I'm getting good at kissing these, but, um, all right.
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  So I mean, they, I mean, we gotta give the people something to chew on here.
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  This, this is not a very deep movie.
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  We're not talking a psychological film here.
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  No, no, not,
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  Jon: all.
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  It's
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  Kearns: it's very, I mean,
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  Jon: even
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  Kearns: before you get to, to the killing, you have
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  Jon: so
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  Kearns: much
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  Jon: eighties,
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  Kearns: like
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  Jon: Susie
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  Kearns: Pulling the, patrons at the d the mall diner
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  Jon: orcas while
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  Kearns: they're wearing, you know, the little crocodile eyes odds.
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  Jon: and
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  Kearns: You know, the big goofed up cowin hair and aqua
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  probably smelling like aqua veva.
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  Let's throw some of that out there too.
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  For fun, man.
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  Jon: Yep.
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  Ryan: Well, there is a film
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  Kearns: There is a film scholar Craig, Ian, man.
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  Ryan: and he did analysis
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  Kearns: he did analysis of the film
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  and he compares the film Paperlessly
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  Ryan: George a
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  Kearns: to George Romero's, Dawn of the Dead,
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  Ryan: Which is,
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  Kearns: which is,
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  Ryan: also
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  Kearns: know
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  Ryan: mall
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  Kearns: they talk about his drug problem.
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  Ryan: well,
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  Kearns: made the joke.
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  I said Short Circuit meets Dawn of the Dead because of their hold up in a mall.
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  So I guess I made the comparison too, but he wasn't like actually saying that
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  they're equal movies or anything, right?
• 12:32
  Ryan: no, no.
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  He
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  Kearns: No.
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  Okay.
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  More detail where he
• 12:35
  Ryan: anti-capitalism parable
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  Kearns: terrible
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  Ryan: Carter
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  Kearns: the Jimmy Carter years.
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  Ryan: that
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  Kearns: Suggesting that chopping wall functions in a similar way as a comment
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  on consumption during This is very deep.
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  Jon: could, I can see that
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  Kearns: This is very deep for rogue scanner robots that
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  were struck by lightning.
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  Jon: Listen, if, if I were going to, to, I would go into this sort of police state
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  sense that you got in that era also where
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  Kearns: That's more believable.
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  Jon: hard on crime
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  Ryan: Yep.
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  Jon: and
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  Kearns: aren't
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  Jon: be
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  Kearns: hard enough on their own,
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  Jon: So
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  Kearns: we need robots to do it.
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  Yeah, that's, that's I Dawn of the dead.
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  I buy that.
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  Rogue consumerism, the hoard of people trying to store the mall.
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  Like I buy that for this movie.
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  I, I just can't give them the credit that that would come with
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  like, nobody was in the back.
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  Like, you know what we should do with expanded metaphor about
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  the, I'm like, uh, I don't know.
• 13:33
  I
• 13:33
  Ryan: Good
• 13:34
  Kearns: think you found some boxes and Yeah, you spray painted some
• 13:37
  boxes, the color of aluminum and put some dude in it and here we go.
• 13:41
  We're off to the races.
• 13:43
  Got Jugs McGee and he and Jug McGee's little sister.
• 13:47
  Oh.
• 13:49
  But it's a good watch.
• 13:50
  It's just, I don't know.
• 13:51
  I'm being pretty critical.
• 13:52
  I shouldn't be you.
• 13:54
  Jon: you, you go from like working
• 13:58
  Kearns: In a mall to having an after hours mall party in the furniture
• 14:03
  store that the guys work at.
• 14:04
  Jon: and just
• 14:06
  Kearns: A random married couple that shows up to hang with them.
• 14:10
  Yeah.
• 14:10
  They don't work in, I was like an, it's like a mall orgy.
• 14:14
  When we were talking about the, the least horny place in
• 14:16
  the world is a bowling alley.
• 14:18
  The most horny place in the world might be, might be a mall.
• 14:23
  I mean, not the, I don't know about the Sears in the mall, but.
• 14:26
  It's definitely on the other side of that I, a orgy in a mall is way more
• 14:32
  believable than an orgy in a bowling alley is basically what I'm getting at.
• 14:37
  Ryan: and there's definitely an orgy
• 14:38
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 14:39
  Orgy going not.
• 14:39
  Yeah.
• 14:40
  Which might be, who got the robots so mad?
• 14:43
  Jon: They were jealous.
• 14:44
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 14:44
  Wow.
• 14:45
  Don't worry, you'll get in on the game.
• 14:46
  Just wait till 2020.
• 14:49
  You'll have a Renaissance.
• 14:51
  these robots are really,
• 14:52
  Jon: efficient killers.
• 14:54
  They
• 14:54
  Kearns: learn steal almost immediately, like sneaking up on
• 14:57
  the tech and killing him while he's.
• 14:59
  Jon: is, you know, not
• 15:01
  Kearns: When he on the phone because he can't die while he's on the
• 15:04
  phone because someone will know.
• 15:06
  Mm-hmm.
• 15:07
  You're talking about like eight bit processing technology in 1986.
• 15:11
  So we're talking floppy A drives here, guys.
• 15:14
  These things are thinking quick.
• 15:17
  This is back what guys?
• 15:18
  When it took a computer, minutes to load a photograph and not, not a very,
• 15:25
  well, not a very large one at that.
• 15:27
  Jon: Yeah, and it, that computer
• 15:29
  Kearns: Took up your entire desk.
• 15:30
  Yep.
• 15:32
  It got hot as hell too.
• 15:34
  Ryan: Yes it did.
• 15:35
  Kearns: Our first desktop, I wouldn't have to have a heated room 'cause my
• 15:39
  desktop PC was so hot in 1995, so,
• 15:45
  Ryan: God, windows 95.
• 15:48
  Kearns: yep.
• 15:49
  God, now we're really getting there.
• 15:51
  Ryan: you
• 15:51
  Kearns: But yeah.
• 15:52
  Ryan: you
• 15:53
  Kearns: You
• 15:53
  Ryan: robots are
• 15:53
  Kearns: mentioned the robots are smart.
• 15:55
  Ryan: The teenagers
• 15:56
  Kearns: teenagers trapped in
• 15:57
  Ryan: even call them
• 15:58
  Kearns: can even call them.
• 15:59
  Ryan: in their early twenties.
• 16:00
  They're, they're somewhere
• 16:02
  Kearns: somewhere
• 16:03
  Ryan: there.
• 16:03
  Kearns: around there.
• 16:04
  Ryan: don't even
• 16:05
  Kearns: you're definitely not making them as teenagers, but they're like 40.
• 16:09
  Jon: the age vague.
• 16:10
  Kearns: They're like 40.
• 16:11
  It's like the quintessential, like 9 0 2 1.
• 16:13
  Oh, it was Luke, um, what was his name?
• 16:15
  The guy who played Dylan was like 39 years old.
• 16:18
  Yeah.
• 16:18
  He is like,
• 16:19
  Jon: Ian Ziering was older than all of 'em.
• 16:21
  Kearns: wow.
• 16:22
  interesting.
• 16:23
  Ryan: as much as it shows how smart
• 16:25
  Kearns: Shows how smart they are.
• 16:26
  Ryan: they're
• 16:27
  Kearns: The, they're
• 16:27
  Ryan: their own
• 16:28
  Kearns: kind of smart in their own way.
• 16:29
  Like think the
• 16:30
  Ryan: They put
• 16:30
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 16:31
  Kearns: They put the propane tanks on top,
• 16:33
  Ryan: they get the protector in
• 16:34
  Kearns: get the protector in there, guy gets out.
• 16:37
  And um,
• 16:38
  Ryan: Allison, right?
• 16:39
  Kearns: Allison, right?
• 16:40
  Is that the main charact?
• 16:41
  Ryan: the
• 16:41
  Kearns: You know, now that
• 16:42
  Ryan: go.
• 16:43
  Kearns: there we go.
• 16:43
  Ryan: Parks.
• 16:44
  Kearns: by Allison Parks.
• 16:45
  There we go.
• 16:46
  Ryan: Getting that all Confu.
• 16:48
  No, it's Allison
• 16:49
  Kearns: No, it's Allison Parks Mar.
• 16:50
  Jon: Maroney.
• 16:51
  Ryan: is Kelly Maroney.
• 16:52
  The
• 16:52
  Kearns: Kelly Marone.
• 16:53
  The character is Allison Parks.
• 16:54
  Ryan: That's where
• 16:55
  Jon: Yes.
• 16:56
  Kearns: where I'm getting the confusion right there.
• 16:57
  Ryan: Allison though,
• 16:58
  Kearns: where Allison though, she shoots the gun, she shoots the gun
• 17:01
  Ryan: and hits the propane
• 17:02
  Kearns: and hits the propane tanks exploding via, uh, elevator,
• 17:04
  Ryan: a pretty cool
• 17:05
  Kearns: which is a pretty cool scene.
• 17:06
  Mm-hmm.
• 17:07
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 17:08
  Kearns: But they're also.
• 17:09
  The robots outsmart them before that they, when they're trying to
• 17:12
  escape the furniture store, they go into the, air conditioner dump
• 17:16
  Ryan: True.
• 17:17
  Kearns: and the robots turn the heat on.
• 17:19
  Ryan: Yep.
• 17:19
  Kearns: Oh, that's cool.
• 17:21
  Yeah.
• 17:23
  So, all right, so you got like the clever girl stuff from
• 17:27
  Jurassic Park going on here.
• 17:29
  Like they can use door handles now, that kind of thing.
• 17:33
  That kind of thing's going on.
• 17:34
  All right.
• 17:35
  so how do they, how do they outsmart the bots?
• 17:37
  How do they take these?
• 17:38
  Actually, I don't even know.
• 17:39
  We're pretty early in the episode to get to how they win.
• 17:42
  is there any other trivia about the movie?
• 17:44
  It's pretty bare bones.
• 17:46
  Sort of movie
• 17:47
  Ryan: Kelly Maroney
• 17:48
  Kearns: Kelly Maroney reports.
• 17:50
  Dana Kimmel,
• 17:51
  Ryan: the, uh, main
• 17:52
  Kearns: the, uh, main actress in Friday, the 13th, part three,
• 17:55
  Ryan: a little
• 17:56
  Kearns: and a little movie called
• 17:58
  Ryan: Sweet 16,
• 17:59
  Kearns: 16, which is on my radar now.
• 18:02
  Uh, the slasher film from 1983.
• 18:05
  Ryan: but
• 18:05
  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
• 18:06
  Ryan: wanna do
• 18:06
  Kearns: But she didn't wanna do anything sexual,
• 18:08
  Ryan: so
• 18:09
  Kearns: so
• 18:10
  Ryan: we're just
• 18:11
  Kearns: they were like, alright, we're.
• 18:12
  Ryan: get Kelly Maroney and when.
• 18:16
  Kearns: When
• 18:17
  Ryan: Casted her
• 18:18
  Kearns: casted her
• 18:19
  Ryan: at John's smiling
• 18:20
  Kearns: at John Smiley, because I think he knows where I'm headed with this,
• 18:22
  Ryan: wanted to
• 18:22
  Kearns: because he wanted to date her,
• 18:24
  Ryan: her
• 18:24
  Kearns: because he liked her act or Weinstein of him.
• 18:27
  Ryan: a very, very,
• 18:28
  Jon: Yeah.
• 18:29
  Kearns: very, very, yeah.
• 18:30
  Jon: What, what, what's, what's funny about that is.
• 18:34
  Kearns: That character is one of the few that don't take
• 18:37
  clothes off or really have.
• 18:40
  Actual sex.
• 18:41
  Jon: scene,
• 18:42
  Kearns: Interesting
• 18:43
  Ryan: it's true.
• 18:45
  Kearns: that that part got completely removed.
• 18:48
  Ryan: 19 minutes
• 18:49
  Kearns: 19 minutes.
• 18:50
  Exactly.
• 18:51
  Hmm.
• 18:51
  Ryan: this film.
• 18:52
  Jon: I,
• 18:52
  Ryan: Is it lost?
• 18:53
  Do you
• 18:53
  Kearns: Is it lost, do you think that footage
• 18:55
  Ryan: it's
• 18:55
  Kearns: do you think it's not on the disc?
• 18:57
  Ryan: okay,
• 18:58
  Kearns: God.
• 18:58
  Somebody's gotta call vinegar.
• 19:00
  the
• 19:01
  They'll find it.
• 19:03
  Ryan: vinegar syndrome,
• 19:04
  Jon: sure it's out there.
• 19:05
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 19:05
  That's gotta be somewhere.
• 19:07
  Ryan: chopping mall, I'll buy it.
• 19:10
  Kearns: Uncut.
• 19:11
  Uncut.
• 19:12
  More orgy.
• 19:14
  But so lightning brings 'em to life.
• 19:16
  How do they take 'em out
• 19:17
  Ryan: I mean, they take him out by the
• 19:19
  Kearns: individually?
• 19:20
  Yeah.
• 19:21
  Elevator trap was one.
• 19:22
  Jon: Explosion fire,
• 19:24
  Ryan: yep.
• 19:24
  Jon: I.
• 19:25
  Kearns: The mirror.
• 19:26
  Ryan: was
• 19:26
  Kearns: mirror drink was cool.
• 19:28
  Uhhuh,
• 19:28
  Jon: huh.
• 19:29
  Ryan: shot,
• 19:29
  Kearns: when they shot, um, they had like mannequins set up.
• 19:32
  Ryan: and then
• 19:33
  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
• 19:33
  And they revealed behind the curtain in the mirror and the
• 19:36
  laser shoots it back lining
• 19:38
  Ryan: The protector.
• 19:39
  I think
• 19:39
  Kearns: protector.
• 19:40
  I think three.
• 19:40
  Ryan: But that kills
• 19:41
  Kearns: But that kills Linda, which
• 19:44
  Ryan: feel
• 19:44
  Kearns: I feel Rick's.
• 19:46
  Ryan: This is where Rick
• 19:47
  Kearns: This is where Rick kills himself.
• 19:48
  He sacrifices himself.
• 19:50
  Ryan: go-kart
• 19:51
  Kearns: a go-kart into one of the protector three,
• 19:54
  Ryan: killing it in himself.
• 19:55
  Kearns: it and himself
• 19:56
  Ryan: I,
• 19:56
  Kearns: and I, I just
• 19:58
  Ryan: waste.
• 19:58
  Kearns: think it was a waste.
• 19:59
  Ryan: He should have jumped
• 20:00
  Kearns: He should have jumped it out of the go-kart.
• 20:02
  I mean, I don't know if I'm being like, but
• 20:04
  Ryan: but I.
• 20:07
  Kearns: Well, that's one of those predictable things in horror movies
• 20:12
  in particular, if you have a.
• 20:14
  Jon: a couple and
• 20:15
  Kearns: One of the two dies.
• 20:17
  You know, the other one says
• 20:19
  Ryan: Fair.
• 20:20
  Kearns: there's almost never, unless it's the final girl, there's almost never that
• 20:26
  Jon: extra
• 20:27
  Kearns: person from a couple that,
• 20:28
  Jon: lives.
• 20:29
  Kearns: Hmm.
• 20:29
  Ryan: Okay.
• 20:30
  Kearns: I never thought about that.
• 20:31
  Ryan: How he does it
• 20:32
  Kearns: How he does it though, it's just like.
• 20:36
  Ryan: and it's like
• 20:37
  Kearns: I, I,
• 20:38
  Jon: I, I,
• 20:39
  Kearns: I will say that's my least
• 20:41
  Jon: favorite
• 20:41
  Kearns: desk too,
• 20:42
  Jon: two
• 20:42
  Kearns: probably.
• 20:43
  Yeah.
• 20:44
  Jon: because it's the one that looks the worst.
• 20:46
  Kearns: Okay.
• 20:47
  Ryan: definitely.
• 20:48
  Kearns: I mean, if they're moving a cart in a mall to a proper robot, that's gotta
• 20:53
  be pretty rough with the camera work.
• 20:55
  In 1986,
• 20:56
  Ryan: Susie's burning
• 20:58
  Kearns: burning
• 20:59
  Ryan: 10 times
• 20:59
  Kearns: has been
• 21:00
  Ryan: and that, and that
• 21:01
  Kearns: and that, and that stunt person was on fire.
• 21:04
  Ryan: it
• 21:04
  Jon: Oh yeah.
• 21:05
  Kearns: Well, that was something they had down by then.
• 21:07
  Lighting people on fire was something we were good at.
• 21:10
  Jon: Yeah.
• 21:10
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 21:11
  Ryan: the person's just stood, they're just like laid
• 21:13
  Kearns: just like laid out and just
• 21:14
  Ryan: I'm like, are they gonna put'em
• 21:15
  Kearns: like, are
• 21:17
  Ryan: Like, I wanna make sure
• 21:19
  Kearns: I wanna make sure they're okay
• 21:22
  Jon: Stop, drop and roll.
• 21:24
  Ryan: Oh, they, they dropped.
• 21:25
  Kearns: if they.
• 21:26
  Ryan: rolling.
• 21:28
  Jon: Yeah,
• 21:28
  Kearns: There's just so much.
• 21:29
  80.
• 21:30
  Jon: in this.
• 21:30
  Like I was, I was just looking back through,
• 21:33
  Kearns: Did you notice the price of the cigarettes?
• 21:35
  Ryan: Yes.
• 21:36
  Kearns: God.
• 21:36
  What is that?
• 21:37
  Under a dollar
• 21:38
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 21:39
  Kearns: buck?
• 21:39
  Jon: 25
• 21:39
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 21:40
  Kearns: that's about right.
• 21:41
  They were buck 35 when I started smoking, which wasn't, which was later,
• 21:46
  Ryan: How
• 21:46
  Kearns: but not much.
• 21:47
  I buck 35.
• 21:49
  A gallon of gas was a buck 35 when I started driving a pack
• 21:51
  of cigarettes was a buck 35.
• 21:54
  Ryan: 8 99.
• 21:55
  Jon: I did a little bit
• 21:56
  Kearns: A time,
• 21:56
  Jon: little
• 21:57
  Kearns: a time in Virginia when I, for college, you could get generics 69 cents.
• 22:03
  Jon: pack.
• 22:04
  Kearns: Wow.
• 22:06
  Jon: Bro,
• 22:06
  Ryan: okay.
• 22:08
  Jon: this is bad for my lungs.
• 22:11
  Kearns: Uh, yeah.
• 22:11
  Ryan: For
• 22:12
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 22:13
  No limiting factor.
• 22:15
  No.
• 22:15
  Just as much as you can handle.
• 22:17
  Um, hot damn man.
• 22:19
  Ryan: That's a good deal
• 22:20
  Kearns: That's.
• 22:21
  Ryan: I quit, but that's a good deal.
• 22:24
  Jon: And
• 22:24
  Kearns: a paid phone next to the cigarette machine.
• 22:27
  That's pretty cool too.
• 22:28
  So you can just talk to mom the whole time.
• 22:30
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 22:30
  Kearns: I'm just gonna grab another pack of po mals.
• 22:32
  Well, like mall pulse.
• 22:36
  Ryan: Get those
• 22:37
  Kearns: Um,
• 22:37
  Ryan: right here for you.
• 22:39
  Kearns: yeah, that, that wasn't one of the nice parts about the eighties.
• 22:42
  The slice of pizza was like 50 cents and.
• 22:45
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 22:46
  Kearns: You could leave the house with a dollar and actually do something with it.
• 22:50
  Ryan: Yep.
• 22:50
  Kearns: Um, I don't wanna make, this is gonna take this
• 22:52
  episode to a negative place.
• 22:53
  We're not gonna go there.
• 22:55
  One of the cool things about the eighties the movie captures is how like
• 22:57
  ne it is and stuff and the camera work.
• 23:01
  Uh, the, the lighting in the film is dark.
• 23:03
  The film runs darker than I'd like it to, but that you can still see
• 23:06
  the eighties aesthetic, right?
• 23:08
  Ryan: Yeah, got
• 23:10
  Jon: Definitely.
• 23:10
  Ryan: got in the mall
• 23:11
  Kearns: Lasers.
• 23:13
  Even just the lasers.
• 23:13
  Yeah.
• 23:14
  There's nothing like a mall in the eighties.
• 23:15
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 23:16
  Kearns: Nothing like it did.
• 23:17
  Jon: Did,
• 23:18
  Kearns: Did you catch the name of the sporting
• 23:20
  Jon: goods store?
• 23:22
  Ryan: I, No, it
• 23:24
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 23:24
  Ryan: it wasn't Dick's.
• 23:26
  Kearns: Dick's.
• 23:26
  Ryan: God,
• 23:27
  Kearns: God,
• 23:27
  Ryan: trying to think.
• 23:28
  Kearns: I'm trying to think.
• 23:29
  You're gonna have to spoil it.
• 23:31
  You have to.
• 23:31
  Jon: I.
• 23:32
  Kearns: Peck can pause.
• 23:32
  Ryan: Yes.
• 23:33
  Kearns: Yes.
• 23:35
  Why would it be pecking?
• 23:36
  Pause the director.
• 23:39
  Ryan: Yeah,
• 23:40
  Kearns: Oh,
• 23:40
  Jon: they shoot 'em up, westerns and
• 23:42
  Kearns: that's cool.
• 23:43
  And.
• 23:44
  Jon: it's got that sporting goods store
• 23:47
  Kearns: Has a better arsenal than
• 23:49
  Jon: some
• 23:49
  Kearns: militant,
• 23:50
  I mean, was that a common thing?
• 23:53
  Because I, I remember, I know that there's none around this area, but that's
• 23:57
  'cause where we live, where we live.
• 23:59
  But I've been, I've been around the country.
• 24:01
  I've been to bass pro shops and stuff, and you see, you
• 24:03
  see rifles and stuff in there.
• 24:05
  But I've never been to like a sporting goods store where I was walking
• 24:09
  around, like golf clubs AR 15.
• 24:11
  Cool.
• 24:13
  Like that.
• 24:14
  And the movie showcases it.
• 24:15
  Not especially, not one attached to a mall, but 86 was 86.
• 24:20
  Yeah.
• 24:21
  Jon: Yeah.
• 24:21
  Kearns: Different time to
• 24:22
  Jon: to
• 24:23
  Kearns: one of my favorite lines
• 24:24
  Jon: in the movie,
• 24:25
  Kearns: in the movie too.
• 24:25
  Jon: Let's
• 24:26
  Kearns: go send those suckers a
• 24:27
  Jon: a
• 24:27
  Kearns: Rambo.
• 24:28
  Jon: Graham?
• 24:28
  Kearns: Yeah, it's from, that's some quality bad writing right there.
• 24:34
  Jon: Yeah.
• 24:35
  Kearns: That's good stuff.
• 24:36
  Jon: Rambo Graham,
• 24:38
  Ryan: It is the eighties.
• 24:39
  Kearns: See
• 24:39
  Ryan: it in the
• 24:40
  Kearns: you're filming in the whole
• 24:41
  Ryan: from
• 24:41
  Kearns: film
• 24:42
  Jon: huh?
• 24:42
  Kearns: from Commando and Rambo had just come out.
• 24:45
  Ryan: yeah.
• 24:46
  There was
• 24:46
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 24:46
  Ryan: lines about movies where I
• 24:48
  Kearns: movies where I was like, oh, I don't know if you noticed, this might be
• 24:53
  the most eighties part of this movie when they pass the movie theater in the mall.
• 24:58
  Do you notice what's playing?
• 25:00
  Ryan: I didn't even see it.
• 25:02
  Kearns: Oh.
• 25:04
  Jon: crush
• 25:05
  Kearns: Groove Crush.
• 25:07
  Groove
• 25:08
  Crush.
• 25:08
  Jon: Groove man.
• 25:09
  Like he
• 25:11
  Kearns: It was sort of like the, break in copycat.
• 25:14
  Ryan: Okay.
• 25:15
  Kearns: Never, I'd never heard a crush groove.
• 25:17
  It sounds eighties, that's for sure.
• 25:19
  The fact that there's a theater in the mall makes me happy too.
• 25:22
  And not many of those around anymore either.
• 25:24
  Shopping mall theaters.
• 25:26
  Ryan: Arcade.
• 25:27
  There was a, it was
• 25:28
  Kearns: Oh, that's the worst one.
• 25:29
  Our local one, not having the big arcade anymore kills me.
• 25:34
  Ryan: like
• 25:34
  Kearns: That one made me sad.
• 25:36
  Yeah.
• 25:37
  Ryan: Actual good
• 25:38
  Kearns: like pre DDR era when it was X-Men, um, Simpsons and all that stuff.
• 25:44
  Um, what was the major?
• 25:45
  Shoot something Crisis time Crisis was the shoot 'em up.
• 25:51
  There was really golden era days of arcades.
• 25:54
  A street fighter.
• 25:56
  Jon: great arcade.
• 25:57
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 25:59
  Jon: That was a,
• 26:00
  Kearns: Ip.
• 26:00
  I go back further.
• 26:01
  Jon: you guys and like Gauntlet and
• 26:04
  Kearns: Golden acts.
• 26:05
  Jon: and
• 26:06
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 26:06
  Jon: Gold Max,
• 26:07
  Kearns: are all,
• 26:08
  Ryan: that's
• 26:08
  Kearns: those are the ones that made, they paved the way for
• 26:10
  the ones I was talking about.
• 26:12
  That's a good point.
• 26:13
  Ryan: Yep.
• 26:14
  Kearns: Uh, what's the racing game?
• 26:15
  The original racing game, it was xenophobe.
• 26:17
  Jon: position.
• 26:19
  Xenophobe
• 26:20
  Kearns: was like, like an alien type of ripoff game.
• 26:24
  Nice.
• 26:24
  Good.
• 26:24
  Good.
• 26:25
  Name for a game.
• 26:26
  Great name for a podcast.
• 26:28
  Jon: I'm
• 26:29
  Kearns: Pretty sure that
• 26:29
  Jon: xenophobe.
• 26:31
  Kearns: Xenophobe.
• 26:33
  I mean, that's a good name.
• 26:33
  Xenophobia is a thing.
• 26:36
  Ryan: Yes, it
• 26:36
  Kearns: Where's Xenomania though?
• 26:38
  We're maniacs about our Xenos.
• 26:41
  We don't phobe away from 'em, we embrace 'em.
• 26:44
  so yeah, guys, that's, that's chopping mall.
• 26:47
  Um, go to the Mall of America and when you see the little robot, Marty
• 26:50
  come out and start scanning things, just know that it could definitely
• 26:53
  cut your throat at any moment.
• 26:56
  Jon: Yep.
• 26:57
  Kearns: And they,
• 26:58
  Jon: like, they thought of everything
• 26:59
  Kearns: with you
• 26:59
  Jon: robots
• 27:00
  Kearns: except one thing,
• 27:02
  Jon: four
• 27:03
  Kearns: drive.
• 27:03
  Oh, fair, fair.
• 27:05
  Ryan: They
• 27:06
  Kearns: What was the eighties?
• 27:07
  Jon: stuck in, that one gets stuck in paint and that's it.
• 27:11
  Ryan: And then it's a
• 27:11
  Kearns: And then it's a flare and
• 27:14
  Jon: Yep.
• 27:15
  Ryan: bye bye.
• 27:16
  Kearns: bye bye.
• 27:17
  Well, the thing about it too is I don't think there were a lot of cars
• 27:19
  that had four wheel drive in 1986.
• 27:22
  Ryan: Everything
• 27:22
  Kearns: Everything
• 27:23
  Ryan: for
• 27:23
  Kearns: wheel drive or rear wheel drive.
• 27:25
  Right.
• 27:25
  A lot of, a lot were rear back then, ev everything that was a sports car was rear.
• 27:30
  the front wheel was like.
• 27:32
  I think more sedan and stuff, right?
• 27:36
  'cause the you, but the front wheel, you were set 'cause you had
• 27:38
  the weight of the engine on it.
• 27:40
  Ryan: Okay.
• 27:40
  Kearns: That was the way it worked.
• 27:41
  You had traction, the uh, rear wheel, you were screwed.
• 27:44
  Ryan: God,
• 27:45
  Kearns: Robot screwed as well.
• 27:47
  Ryan: Oh, definitely
• 27:48
  Kearns: Definitely stuck
• 27:49
  Ryan: in that pain and
• 27:50
  Kearns: in that pain and center
• 27:51
  Ryan: And he's blown up,
• 27:53
  Kearns: blown up,
• 27:54
  Ryan: which,
• 27:56
  I,
• 27:57
  Kearns: I.
• 27:58
  Ryan: I really thought
• 27:59
  Kearns: I really thought Birdie was dead.
• 28:01
  Ryan: That was a lot of
• 28:02
  Kearns: That was a
• 28:03
  Jon: you?
• 28:03
  Kearns: lot of blood loss,
• 28:04
  Ryan: from his head.
• 28:06
  it just pours
• 28:07
  Kearns: it just poured out.
• 28:08
  Ryan: like, I'm, I'm
• 28:09
  Kearns: He's like,
• 28:09
  Ryan: It's like, are you a robot?
• 28:12
  Are you
• 28:12
  Jon: So
• 28:12
  Ryan: for.
• 28:15
  Kearns: one of the things that sort of bothered me is naming a character Furie
• 28:20
  Ryan: Hmm.
• 28:21
  Jon: and then
• 28:21
  Kearns: hearing a hundred percent at times people calling him Freddy.
• 28:26
  Ryan: Yep.
• 28:27
  Kearns: Oh,
• 28:28
  Ryan: What
• 28:29
  Kearns: what
• 28:29
  Ryan: talk
• 28:30
  Kearns: if you wanna talk about that?
• 28:31
  What about Leslie?
• 28:34
  In the beginning,
• 28:35
  Ryan: she, or when
• 28:35
  Kearns: she, or when she's trying to find Mike,
• 28:38
  Ryan: like, Mike, where
• 28:39
  Kearns: she's like, Mike, where are you?
• 28:40
  And then it's
• 28:41
  Ryan: Brandon.
• 28:41
  Kearns: Brandon.
• 28:42
  Ryan: where,
• 28:43
  Kearns: Brandon, where, where are you?
• 28:44
  She got the name wrong
• 28:45
  Ryan: And they put
• 28:46
  Jon: Uh.
• 28:47
  Kearns: put it still,
• 28:48
  Ryan: crazy.
• 28:48
  It's like
• 28:48
  Kearns: which is crazy.
• 28:49
  It's like brandeds.
• 28:50
  Ryan: Mike,
• 28:50
  Kearns: They couldn't afford more shoots.
• 28:52
  Like, ah, nobody will notice.
• 28:53
  It's fine.
• 28:54
  That's what I mean though.
• 28:54
  There's not many memorable characters in the movie, so
• 28:57
  nobody was gonna pick up on it,
• 28:59
  Jon: we can just roll along with that scene too.
• 29:01
  When she gets to where the cigarette machine is and his
• 29:03
  dead body is, if you look,
• 29:07
  Kearns: twitching his big toes to that whole speed while he
• 29:11
  Jon: dead.
• 29:11
  Kearns: Oh, great.
• 29:12
  He's just like flexing it like that.
• 29:14
  Jon: the whole time.
• 29:16
  Kearns: Why?
• 29:16
  Just to be a jerk.
• 29:19
  I don't,
• 29:20
  Jon: I,
• 29:20
  Kearns: I dunno.
• 29:22
  Oh man.
• 29:23
  Ryan: a
• 29:23
  Kearns: Definitely a Roger.
• 29:24
  Ryan: A Corman production.
• 29:26
  Overall, just the cheesiness, the campiness.
• 29:32
  Kearns: campiness.
• 29:33
  Mm-hmm.
• 29:34
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 29:34
  Kearns: It just is what it is.
• 29:35
  Like we were saying earlier, it's a good watch.
• 29:38
  If you like the robot movies in the eighties, definitely tune into it.
• 29:41
  Jon: Yeah,
• 29:42
  Kearns: think we got anything else on it, to be honest with you.
• 29:45
  Jon: it, it's a
• 29:46
  Kearns: It's a fun,
• 29:48
  Jon: under
• 29:48
  Kearns: an hour and a half
• 29:51
  Jon: Little
• 29:51
  Kearns: movie, there's,
• 29:52
  Jon: there's,
• 29:53
  Kearns: it's not gonna,
• 29:54
  Jon: it's
• 29:54
  Kearns: not something that's gonna stick with you forever, but it
• 29:57
  Jon: you.
• 29:57
  If, if
• 29:58
  Kearns: you.
• 29:59
  Jon: in
• 30:00
  Kearns: With the mindset that you're gonna have fun watching
• 30:02
  a movie, you're gonna have
• 30:03
  Jon: fun watching this
• 30:04
  Kearns: great B horror night flick kind of deal.
• 30:08
  Um, and yeah, may, you know, maybe watch it between short circuit one and two.
• 30:13
  Have a good time.
• 30:14
  Ryan: And it's
• 30:15
  Kearns: Have a good time with it.
• 30:16
  Jon: it's the short circuit prequel.
• 30:18
  Kearns: Ooh, well, short circuit one did have militarized
• 30:21
  evil robots being developed.
• 30:23
  That was the original purpose or like side purpose of them.
• 30:26
  So don't forget Johnny Five's.
• 30:29
  Brothers not good, bad.
• 30:30
  Jon: And
• 30:31
  Kearns: Listen, these robots
• 30:33
  Jon: have like one little goofy
• 30:35
  Kearns: great too.
• 30:36
  I don't know if you guys caught onto it, but like there's a bunch of times
• 30:39
  where they're just sort of like.
• 30:42
  Moving around a little chaotically
• 30:44
  Jon: with
• 30:44
  Kearns: their little robots.
• 30:45
  Yeah.
• 30:45
  Jon: like up in the
• 30:46
  Kearns: Flailing la la Like lost in space.
• 30:50
  Jon: yeah, it's pretty funny.
• 30:51
  Kearns: Yeah, that's good.
• 30:53
  Um, but yeah, that's, that's chopping mall then, then they kill Will Robinson.
• 31:00
  Um, I guess we're gonna roll in the top fives, guys.
• 31:03
  Ryan: So
• 31:04
  Kearns: you think about all that, Ryan?
• 31:05
  Ryan: I'm
• 31:05
  Jon: Let's do it.
• 31:06
  Ryan: Um, I went with killer Robots this
• 31:09
  Kearns: Killer robots this time.
• 31:11
  It's rock.
• 31:12
  Ryan: there's
• 31:12
  Kearns: That's a, that's a big twist.
• 31:13
  Like
• 31:14
  Ryan: I know, I, I
• 31:15
  Kearns: I know, I, I,
• 31:15
  Ryan: was like the most
• 31:16
  Kearns: that was like the most creative I can, I was trying to be funny.
• 31:19
  It came out mean I was trying to be funny.
• 31:20
  No, I like staying with the robots,
• 31:23
  Ryan: But, um,
• 31:24
  Kearns: but um,
• 31:25
  Ryan: for these
• 31:26
  Kearns: for these movies are on my list to watch.
• 31:29
  Yeah.
• 31:29
  Ryan: wanna
• 31:30
  Kearns: I do wanna see.
• 31:31
  Um, and I'm recommending because
• 31:33
  Ryan: they're fun
• 31:34
  Kearns: I think they're fun and they
• 31:35
  Ryan: we're
• 31:35
  Kearns: relate to what we're interested to.
• 31:37
  Ryan: And one I did see,
• 31:38
  Kearns: One I did.
• 31:39
  Ryan: so I'm gonna
• 31:40
  Kearns: So I'm gonna start off with five.
• 31:43
  Ryan: Christmas.
• 31:43
  Bloody
• 31:44
  Kearns: Christmas, bloody Christmas,
• 31:45
  Ryan: Christmas
• 31:46
  Jon: Yes.
• 31:47
  Kearns: four.
• 31:48
  Ryan: a
• 31:48
  Kearns: It follows the robotics.
• 31:50
  Jon: Yes.
• 31:50
  Kearns: Santa Claus
• 31:51
  Ryan: a
• 31:51
  Kearns: who goes on Spree on
• 31:54
  Ryan: released in December
• 31:55
  Kearns: a good one.
• 31:56
  Ryan: It's been on my
• 31:57
  Kearns: It's been on my list.
• 31:58
  I have to watch it.
• 32:00
  Ryan: Um, yes,
• 32:03
  Jon: If
• 32:03
  Kearns: I'm not mistaken, it's on our list for Christmas
• 32:06
  Jon: time.
• 32:06
  Kearns: time.
• 32:06
  Nice.
• 32:07
  Ryan: then I'll be watching
• 32:08
  Kearns: Then I'll be watching Jeremy Gardner.
• 32:10
  You'll be watching it this year.
• 32:11
  Oh, nice dude.
• 32:14
  Ryan: All
• 32:14
  Jon: And the
• 32:16
  Kearns: killer row at the Killer Robot at
• 32:18
  Jon: is
• 32:18
  Kearns: Abraham Ben Ruby.
• 32:20
  Mm.
• 32:20
  Ryan: he looks
• 32:21
  Kearns: Who you'll, that's awesome.
• 32:23
  Jon: Yeah, He's so good.
• 32:25
  That movie is so good.
• 32:27
  Kearns: Nice.
• 32:28
  Ryan: So I'm checking
• 32:30
  Kearns: So I'm checking that off the list this year.
• 32:32
  Ryan: this movie
• 32:32
  Kearns: But this movie number four
• 32:34
  Ryan: already seen
• 32:35
  Kearns: I've already seen already.
• 32:36
  Um, it's Megan.
• 32:38
  Ryan: I.
• 32:39
  Kearns: Oh
• 32:40
  Ryan: I, I do enjoy
• 32:41
  Kearns: I,
• 32:41
  Ryan: Um, I thought it was the
• 32:43
  Kearns: I thought it was
• 32:45
  Ryan: was refused to watch it.
• 32:46
  Kearns: watch.
• 32:47
  Ryan: different
• 32:47
  Kearns: a whole different type of
• 32:49
  Ryan: comedy,
• 32:50
  Kearns: horror, comedy, film, whatever, how you want to vibe with it.
• 32:53
  Ryan: and it's a pretty
• 32:54
  Kearns: a pretty creative process with creating AI and
• 32:58
  the dangers of ai, I would say.
• 33:00
  Ryan: adaptation
• 33:01
  Kearns: adaptation.
• 33:02
  Ryan: or adapting.
• 33:03
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 33:04
  Ryan: thought I was creating a new word there.
• 33:06
  I got scared there.
• 33:07
  Kearns: I got scared.
• 33:08
  No, you made it.
• 33:09
  We got through it together.
• 33:12
  Ryan: number, number three,
• 33:13
  Kearns: number three,
• 33:15
  Ryan: Westworld
• 33:16
  Kearns: Westworld.
• 33:17
  1973 with, uh, U Brenner.
• 33:19
  That's the man in black.
• 33:20
  Good call.
• 33:21
  Good choice.
• 33:22
  Ryan: It's, I've seen clips.
• 33:23
  Um, caught it
• 33:26
  Kearns: I've always quoted from like the middle to the end,
• 33:28
  Ryan: it in
• 33:29
  Kearns: never seen it in full.
• 33:31
  Um,
• 33:31
  Ryan: it's
• 33:31
  Kearns: it's just, it's a good watch from what I've seen from the middle to end.
• 33:36
  Ryan: Uh, I don't know how
• 33:37
  Kearns: Uh, I don't know how it starts, but I presume they get
• 33:39
  there and all hell breaks through.
• 33:41
  Ryan: That's the only part I
• 33:41
  Kearns: That's the only part I always miss.
• 33:43
  Okay.
• 33:45
  I don't wanna ruin it.
• 33:46
  You don't wanna ruin any minute of that film.
• 33:48
  You don't wanna ruin any minute of the uh, series either for that matter.
• 33:52
  'cause there's the 18 twists in the series.
• 33:54
  But yeah.
• 33:55
  Cool.
• 33:56
  Ryan: Well, I hope
• 33:57
  Kearns: Very cool.
• 33:57
  Ryan: two.
• 33:58
  'cause number two is it's been a while I
• 34:01
  Kearns: It's been a while.
• 34:02
  I have watch it.
• 34:03
  Um,
• 34:04
  Ryan: 2018.
• 34:05
  Kearns: great.
• 34:06
  Okay.
• 34:07
  Ryan: I know I'm going
• 34:08
  Kearns: I know I'm going everywhere with sci-fi more, but I feel like
• 34:11
  it's a good pretty mix and upgrade.
• 34:12
  Ryan: the whole
• 34:13
  Kearns: With the whole implant and a chip that allows us to
• 34:16
  control his whole body after
• 34:17
  Ryan: paralyzed.
• 34:18
  Kearns: being paralyzed.
• 34:19
  It's an interesting concept and it's
• 34:21
  Ryan: 'cause it
• 34:22
  Kearns: scary because it can go orry.
• 34:24
  Ryan: I'm kind of in the
• 34:25
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 34:25
  I'm kind of in the dark with this one and I have been,
• 34:27
  Ryan: I'm proud
• 34:28
  Kearns: and I'm proud because it intrigues me, the concept
• 34:31
  Ryan: and I
• 34:31
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 34:32
  Kearns: and I
• 34:32
  Ryan: wanna be spoiled
• 34:33
  Kearns: don't wanna be spoiled by it.
• 34:35
  Jon: It's
• 34:35
  Kearns: not bad.
• 34:37
  Ryan: Okay.
• 34:38
  Jon: it's, it's fine.
• 34:40
  Ryan: Okay.
• 34:41
  I mean, I love the actor
• 34:42
  Kearns: It's a glowing endorsement.
• 34:44
  Ryan: This
• 34:45
  Kearns: All right.
• 34:46
  It's fine.
• 34:48
  Jon: It
• 34:48
  Kearns: All right.
• 34:49
  All right.
• 34:50
  What's number one R guy?
• 34:54
  Oh, okay.
• 34:55
  Did he, did he have to say it like that?
• 34:57
  I think you gave the listeners cancer.
• 34:59
  Oh,
• 35:00
  Ryan: Macina.
• 35:01
  Mcna,
• 35:02
  Kearns: XM now man,
• 35:03
  Ryan: ah
• 35:04
  Kearns: xm, now
• 35:05
  Ryan: go.
• 35:05
  Jon: Text Macina.
• 35:06
  Ryan: X
• 35:06
  Kearns: he's messing with you guys.
• 35:07
  Just so you know.
• 35:09
  Just so you know, the original intended name for that movie was X McKinna.
• 35:13
  Just so you guys, it's Lafe Nikita,
• 35:16
  Ryan: Nikita.
• 35:17
  But, um,
• 35:18
  Kearns: but um.
• 35:19
  Ryan: a film I've actually afforded.
• 35:21
  Not in a bad
• 35:22
  Kearns: Not in a bad way, but like, I haven't seen it, so I've avoided spoilers.
• 35:26
  Ryan: I've
• 35:26
  Kearns: Oh good.
• 35:27
  I will be quiet.
• 35:27
  Then
• 35:28
  Ryan: I've always caught it, again,
• 35:30
  Kearns: again,
• 35:30
  Ryan: pieces
• 35:31
  Kearns: pieces,
• 35:32
  Ryan: watch
• 35:32
  Kearns: you can't watch it at different pieces.
• 35:34
  You have to watch it thing.
• 35:36
  Mm-hmm.
• 35:36
  Ryan: it's
• 35:37
  Kearns: And it's been the luck of the draw of,
• 35:39
  Ryan: on Netflix
• 35:40
  Kearns: on Netflix and then it's removed when I wanna watch it
• 35:43
  Ryan: anywhere
• 35:44
  Kearns: or anywhere I try.
• 35:45
  So,
• 35:46
  Ryan: this is the year I'm gonna try to
• 35:47
  Kearns: see, I'm gonna try to watch it, but it, uh, follows a programmer.
• 35:50
  Ryan: Who was invited by a
• 35:51
  Kearns: Who was invited by a CEO to administer the, uh, during
• 35:54
  test to an intelligent Good watch.
• 35:57
  Enjoy it.
• 35:58
  Ryan: Yes,
• 35:59
  Kearns: It's one of those watches where I'm kind of envious of you 'cause you
• 36:01
  get to watch it for the first time.
• 36:04
  Ryan: I know
• 36:04
  Kearns: It's a good movie.
• 36:05
  Ryan: Jada was very shocked.
• 36:06
  I never seen it.
• 36:07
  She's like, you've never seen that yet?
• 36:08
  And I was like, it's on the
• 36:09
  Kearns: Like
• 36:10
  Ryan: I haven't had the chance
• 36:11
  Kearns: I haven't had the chance yet.
• 36:12
  Ryan: watch
• 36:12
  Kearns: name Fiander.
• 36:14
  Different.
• 36:15
  Yeah,
• 36:18
  you'll enjoy it.
• 36:19
  Ryan: but yeah, no Alicia
• 36:20
  Kearns: yeah, no, at least
• 36:21
  Ryan: it.
• 36:21
  Kearns: benders in it.
• 36:22
  Um, Oscar Ice.
• 36:23
  Oh, you mean Magneto's wife Fast bender, slow Bender vi ender.
• 36:31
  Yeah.
• 36:32
  She crushes it.
• 36:34
  She is a phenomenal actor.
• 36:36
  people always get after Pretty Girls.
• 36:40
  With rolls and stuff like that, and she should put all that to bed.
• 36:44
  She, she carries that movie.
• 36:47
  It's a very good job
• 36:49
  Ryan: From the trailers.
• 36:50
  Kearns: the trailer,
• 36:51
  Ryan: the main purpose,
• 36:52
  Kearns: the main purpose, right?
• 36:53
  She's like the main focus.
• 36:54
  Yeah, she's the robot, but it's the, it's the performance that makes it believable.
• 37:00
  Ryan: yeah.
• 37:00
  Kearns: she's not, she's a robot with sentience.
• 37:02
  So there has to be something there that's a gray area.
• 37:06
  You know what I mean?
• 37:07
  You can't be a robot and a hu or a human.
• 37:09
  You have to be an amalgamation of both.
• 37:12
  Plus, she has to play a part.
• 37:15
  With the other humans in the movie and the other robots, she has to play differently
• 37:20
  in different situations and she just does.
• 37:22
  She is the reason the movie works.
• 37:25
  It's a brilliantly written movie that would not have stood at all without the
• 37:28
  right actress and they, I think they tried to cast Anna Day Armas in it.
• 37:31
  I might be wrong about that, and I don't know if she would've done it.
• 37:35
  She's good too, and she's been in great movies and done great jobs, but
• 37:38
  I don't think she could have done this.
• 37:40
  Based on her other, like her work is Joy and Blade Runner and stuff.
• 37:43
  I'm not sure she could have hacked it.
• 37:44
  What do you think, John?
• 37:46
  Jon: Yeah, I don't think so.
• 37:47
  Kearns: I could be wrong about her being cast though, but I feel like I read
• 37:50
  that somewhere back when I read things
• 37:53
  Ryan: You still read.
• 37:55
  Got it
• 37:56
  Kearns: sometimes.
• 37:58
  Yeah, I got about, I got about five of these I gotta get into soon.
• 38:02
  But anyway, let's say going into John's so I can start them.
• 38:07
  Jon: All right.
• 38:08
  Speaking of phenomenal actors,
• 38:12
  Kearns: Oh, look at that.
• 38:13
  Jon: five Dick Miller movies,
• 38:16
  Ryan: Yes.
• 38:18
  Kearns: I hope his Google searches go up a lot after this episode drops.
• 38:23
  Jon: I hope everything about him goes up after this.
• 38:26
  He was amazing.
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  Ryan: He, he, he's, he's passed away.
• 38:29
  Don't worry.
• 38:31
  Kearns: Oh, well, rigor mortis setting in.
• 38:34
  Get after a Dick
• 38:36
  Jon: So sort of have this list a little different 'cause I want
• 38:40
  to, you know, give a little bit of
• 38:44
  Kearns: Dick Miller story
• 38:45
  Jon: instead of
• 38:46
  Kearns: just describing movies.
• 38:47
  What are we even doing here?
• 38:49
  Jon: is
• 38:49
  Kearns: five pretty
• 38:50
  Jon: movies.
• 38:51
  So.
• 38:51
  Kearns: Okay.
• 38:53
  Dick Miller 242 Acting.
• 38:56
  Ryan: Yep.
• 38:56
  Jon: in
• 38:57
  Kearns: Yep.
• 38:57
  Jon: kinds of stuff.
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  TV
• 39:00
  Kearns: shows action
• 39:01
  Jon: horror.
• 39:03
  Um, some of
• 39:04
  Kearns: His non horror, he was in term,
• 39:07
  Jon: he
• 39:07
  Kearns: was in interface.
• 39:09
  Jon: The burbs,
• 39:10
  Kearns: I would argue, by the way, the original Terminator was closer
• 39:14
  to horror than it was action.
• 39:16
  I would make that argument for the original.
• 39:19
  Jon: I thought about making that argument and putting
• 39:21
  Terminator on my list, but I have
• 39:24
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 39:24
  Jon: that
• 39:25
  Kearns: I'm sure there are plenty.
• 39:26
  Yeah.
• 39:26
  Ryan: I was contemplating, put Terminator on my
• 39:28
  Kearns: Terminator on my list and I was like more sci-fi for it for some reason.
• 39:32
  But it's for, I mean, no, it is definitely sci-fi, but it's, it's a scary movie.
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  It's a, it's a walk down.
• 39:38
  I'll, uh, Halloween and Friday the 13th, but I'm gonna shut
• 39:41
  up now so we can get into it.
• 39:41
  I wanna hear the list.
• 39:43
  Jon: So did Dick Miller Navy Vet. Uh,
• 39:47
  Ryan: Mm-hmm.
• 39:48
  Jon: PhD
• 39:49
  Kearns: Uhhuh.
• 39:49
  Jon: writer, He
• 39:52
  Kearns: worked as a psychologist at Bellview.
• 39:55
  Wow.
• 39:56
  Ryan: That's.
• 39:57
  Kearns: Wow.
• 39:58
  Explains the PhD.
• 40:00
  Jon: while
• 40:00
  Kearns: He was acting on Broadway.
• 40:02
  He's a psychologist in
• 40:03
  Jon: in
• 40:03
  Kearns: the day, during the day.
• 40:05
  Jon: on Broadway at
• 40:05
  Kearns: Did he have kids too?
• 40:07
  'cause this doesn't jive.
• 40:08
  How?
• 40:08
  Where are the minutes in the day coming from to do all this?
• 40:13
  Jon: it, it's a different time.
• 40:14
  It's the fifties.
• 40:15
  The, the
• 40:16
  Kearns: Um,
• 40:17
  Jon: kids.
• 40:17
  Kearns: that's true.
• 40:18
  I mean, we're not condoning that, by the way, we're not condoning it.
• 40:21
  We're just explaining that it was a circumstance.
• 40:23
  Jon: Yeah.
• 40:24
  Kearns: And that allowed for Dick Miller to live the best life
• 40:26
  he could have possibly lived,
• 40:28
  Jon: I, I,
• 40:29
  Kearns: but his poor wife suffered immeasurably.
• 40:32
  Jon: Oh, absolutely.
• 40:34
  Absolutely.
• 40:35
  But they, they stayed together.
• 40:36
  I
• 40:37
  Kearns: Oh, I'm sure she was fine with it.
• 40:38
  Jon: when he died.
• 40:39
  Kearns: She was.
• 40:40
  She was wealthy.
• 40:41
  I mean, he was bringing in some money.
• 40:43
  Yeah,
• 40:43
  Jon: Yeah.
• 40:44
  Kearns: I'm sure she was happy.
• 40:45
  Jon: if you, if you want to go more into Dick Miller on your own,
• 40:48
  Kearns: I mean, I, I was hoping Dick Miller would get more into me.
• 40:53
  You know what I mean?
• 40:53
  The innuendo, you haven't even picked up on 10 of 'em.
• 40:56
  There's been a lot of them tonight.
• 40:57
  They get the wink.
• 40:58
  Uh, I will never recover from that.
• 41:00
  Wink, John.
• 41:02
  Yeah, there it is.
• 41:05
  Jon: Um,
• 41:06
  Kearns: There's.
• 41:07
  Jon: a documentary called That Guy Dick Miller.
• 41:10
  Uh, I cannot recommend that highly enough.
• 41:13
  Kearns: not part of the list though.
• 41:14
  It's just a wreck.
• 41:15
  Jon: No,
• 41:15
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 41:16
  Jon: just, that's just a, a, a recommendation.
• 41:19
  So into the list.
• 41:21
  Number five, tales
• 41:23
  Kearns: From the,
• 41:24
  Jon: Demon Night
• 41:25
  Kearns: okay.
• 41:26
  Yeah,
• 41:26
  Jon: as
• 41:27
  Kearns: uncle Will.
• 41:28
  Uncle Willie.
• 41:29
  Ryan: Played
• 41:29
  Kearns: I'm
• 41:30
  Jon: Uncle
• 41:30
  Kearns: Dick Miller.
• 41:32
  Is it rude to look it up now?
• 41:34
  Jon: Willie and Dick.
• 41:35
  number
• 41:36
  Kearns: four.
• 41:37
  While you're looking that up.
• 41:38
  Oh yeah.
• 41:38
  There he is.
• 41:40
  Ryan: Yep.
• 41:41
  Kearns: Is this the second time piranha's Come on the list.
• 41:44
  Jon: Oh yeah.
• 41:44
  Piranha.
• 41:45
  Kearns: Yep.
• 41:46
  I think Brian put Piha on
• 41:48
  Ryan: yep.
• 41:49
  Kearns: weeks ago.
• 41:49
  Yep.
• 41:50
  Ryan: I did.
• 41:50
  Kearns: Got it.
• 41:51
  Dick Miller.
• 41:52
  Jon: So Dick Miller
• 41:54
  Kearns: Dick Miller is.
• 41:55
  Jon: Piranha is the greedy developer.
• 41:58
  Kearns: Okay.
• 41:59
  Yep.
• 42:00
  That's cool.
• 42:02
  He looks like he's the dude from Gremlins too.
• 42:05
  Is that him?
• 42:06
  Ryan: Mm-hmm.
• 42:07
  Kearns: my first connection?
• 42:08
  Yeah.
• 42:08
  We'll get there.
• 42:08
  We'll get there.
• 42:09
  Jon: get there.
• 42:11
  Kearns: Anyw who?
• 42:13
  Jon: my number three is the howling.
• 42:15
  Kearns: Nice choice.
• 42:17
  I remember him in that too, actually, now that you mention it.
• 42:19
  Jon: Walter Paisley.
• 42:21
  And so this, here's a a Dick Miller curiosity.
• 42:25
  Kearns: Dick Miller played a character named
• 42:27
  Jon: Paisley at least
• 42:29
  Kearns: five different.
• 42:31
  Ryan: Is it the
• 42:31
  Kearns: That's amazing.
• 42:34
  Ryan: connection?
• 42:35
  Kearns: they got outta paying him.
• 42:36
  Sag was like holding up his insurance 'cause they said it was the same part.
• 42:42
  Jon: The janitor and chopping mall is Walter.
• 42:45
  Ryan: Yep.
• 42:46
  Kearns: That's cool.
• 42:48
  Jon: he's Walt in Night of the Creeps.
• 42:51
  Uh, it
• 42:52
  Kearns: It goes back, apparently.
• 42:53
  The first one was Buckets of Blood, which is another Roger Corman movie.
• 42:58
  Mm-hmm.
• 42:59
  Jon: but
• 43:00
  Kearns: There's at least five times he plays a character named Walter Paisley
• 43:03
  Jon: and
• 43:03
  Kearns: they don't seem to be,
• 43:05
  Jon: same
• 43:05
  Kearns: well, his death, Walter, the janitor's death is one of the most
• 43:09
  spectacularly bad instances of CGI in this movie, but it's, it's when it goes Right.
• 43:14
  It's, it's so bad.
• 43:15
  It's good.
• 43:16
  Jon: Yeah.
• 43:17
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 43:18
  so my number two,
• 43:19
  Jon: Dick
• 43:20
  Kearns: Miller movie is Knight of the Creek.
• 43:23
  Okay.
• 43:24
  Where he's also Walt,
• 43:26
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 43:27
  Yeah.
• 43:27
  Kearns: another Walt.
• 43:28
  There must have been a brother or cousin or somebody that he was honoring.
• 43:31
  Maybe it was the guy, a guy that he lost in the, in the service.
• 43:35
  Jon: Maybe
• 43:35
  Kearns: was like, you're gonna be in every movie.
• 43:36
  I remember.
• 43:37
  I'm gonna be in Walt.
• 43:38
  I'm taking you with me, Walt.
• 43:42
  Jon: And number one, gremlins And
• 43:45
  Kearns: Gremlins too.
• 43:46
  Jon: as Mr. Terin.
• 43:47
  Kearns: He, he's holds it up in gremlins too as well.
• 43:50
  By the way, Gremlin's one legitimately scary movie.
• 43:52
  Like dark, scary movie.
• 43:54
  Well, for a kid, for a kid that, I think I mentioned it on another episode, but
• 43:59
  the pool scene when they're, that scene in the pool freaks me out to this day.
• 44:04
  It's like, no, don't get them wet.
• 44:07
  No.
• 44:08
  Jon: I, I saw that in theaters on its initial run.
• 44:14
  It had,
• 44:15
  Kearns: It had trading cards.
• 44:17
  Oh, sweet.
• 44:18
  Jon: I had all the trading cards.
• 44:20
  I loved gremlins.
• 44:21
  Kearns: was cool.
• 44:23
  Jon: but.
• 44:23
  Ryan: is a good
• 44:24
  Kearns: Gremlins you could watch.
• 44:25
  Yeah, man.
• 44:27
  On release.
• 44:27
  They had a ton.
• 44:28
  Didn't they have like a McDonald's craze too?
• 44:30
  Like didn't Mickey Ds promote the hell outta gremlins?
• 44:34
  You get all the cups.
• 44:36
  Ryan: oh.
• 44:37
  Jon: Grem Gremlins was huge.
• 44:40
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 44:40
  Made Dick Miller some cash.
• 44:43
  Ryan: Well, do
• 44:43
  Jon: They made all of 'em some cash.
• 44:46
  Ryan: don't you think he dies in the
• 44:47
  Jon: People
• 44:47
  Kearns: Guys The first film though.
• 44:49
  Ryan: 'cause he
• 44:50
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 44:50
  Jon: Oh yeah.
• 44:51
  You definitely think he's dead in the
• 44:52
  Kearns: the first one.
• 44:53
  Yeah.
• 44:54
  It's, it's implied.
• 44:55
  And then he's, that's like one of the feel good moments is when he realized he's not,
• 44:58
  Ryan: It comes
• 44:59
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 44:59
  Ryan: one.
• 45:00
  All right.
• 45:01
  Kearns: that's one of the, it's one of the music is blaring and he's like,
• 45:04
  isn't it like in the loader or something?
• 45:06
  Ryan: yeah.
• 45:07
  Kearns: like trying to run 'em over.
• 45:08
  Ryan: There's gremlins in the tractor.
• 45:10
  Kearns: There's the tractor.
• 45:11
  Yeah.
• 45:11
  The loader, whatever it is.
• 45:13
  Yeah.
• 45:13
  That's a scene.
• 45:15
  That's another movie that's super dark.
• 45:18
  Uh, is that a Christmas movie?
• 45:19
  If Die Hard's?
• 45:20
  A Christmas movie is Gremlins.
• 45:21
  Yes.
• 45:22
  Absolute
• 45:22
  Jon: is absolutely a Christmas movie.
• 45:24
  Kearns: Hell yes.
• 45:25
  Jon: Gizmos
• 45:26
  Kearns: a Christmas.
• 45:26
  Jon: gift.
• 45:27
  Kearns: Oh, fair enough.
• 45:28
  It's a Christmas movie.
• 45:29
  Indeed.
• 45:31
  Ryan: diehard, um, get, uh, gremlins, uh, Batman returns.
• 45:35
  There's a lot of films that are having that like
• 45:38
  Kearns: Having that like Christmas theme
• 45:40
  Ryan: Are considered a Christmas
• 45:41
  Kearns: are considered a Christmas film now.
• 45:42
  Ryan: mean even
• 45:43
  Jon: Die Heard too is a Christmas movie also.
• 45:46
  Ryan: it is Black
• 45:46
  Kearns: Yes.
• 45:47
  It's Black Christmas.
• 45:50
  Black Christmas is black.
• 45:51
  Christmas though.
• 45:53
  Ryan: Exactly.
• 45:54
  Kearns: Super.
• 45:55
  Jon: There's,
• 45:56
  Kearns: There's only one Black.
• 45:58
  Black.
• 45:59
  Jon: though
• 46:00
  Kearns: Which one?
• 46:01
  Jon: the original,
• 46:02
  Kearns: Oh, got it.
• 46:04
  Jon: there's two remakes they,
• 46:07
  Kearns: The first remake is
• 46:09
  Jon: generic.
• 46:10
  Kearns: The most recent re
• 46:11
  Jon: is.
• 46:12
  Ryan: Trash.
• 46:13
  Kearns: trash.
• 46:14
  Ryan: say
• 46:14
  Jon: I
• 46:14
  Kearns: understand what they're trying to do.
• 46:16
  Mm. It's like a,
• 46:18
  Jon: you
• 46:18
  Kearns: know, home
• 46:19
  Jon: too parable and whatever, but it's not good.
• 46:24
  Kearns: But if you're trying to chew horn that into something
• 46:26
  that's already something else, that's the thing that has its place.
• 46:29
  And there's ways you can do that correctly.
• 46:31
  Ryan: Mm-hmm.
• 46:32
  Kearns: But if you can't, you can't.
• 46:34
  Put a, an agenda, I refuse to use the word because it's being weaponized
• 46:38
  right now, so I'm not gonna use the word, but it's, you can't put another
• 46:41
  agenda into a movie that wasn't built for it, that doesn't fit the vessel.
• 46:44
  That's all I'm gonna say.
• 46:45
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 46:46
  Kearns: gotta be made with intention for it to work.
• 46:49
  Um, but that's a, that's a crappy low note to leave the episode on.
• 46:53
  So somebody say something funny.
• 46:55
  Ryan: Um,
• 46:55
  Jon: Dick
• 46:56
  Kearns: Um.
• 46:58
  Dick
• 46:58
  Ryan: Miller as
• 46:59
  Kearns: Miller.
• 47:00
  As Willie.
• 47:01
  As Willie Miller.
• 47:02
  As Willie Dick,
• 47:04
  Jon: Uncle Willie.
• 47:05
  Ryan: Uncle
• 47:05
  Kearns: uncle Dick.
• 47:08
  Alright, well that was our episode on Chopping Ball everybody.
• 47:13
  We're gonna see you later.
• 47:13
  All right,
• 47:14
  Ryan: Have a good one,
• 47:15
  Kearns: have a good one, guys.
• 47:16
  See ya.