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Van Nuys LLC (RHOC Recap) · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Diamonds in the
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  Speaker 1: Rough with myself Teddy Mellencamp and.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Erica Jane. And you have a smile in
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  Speaker 2: your face and you feel better.
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  Speaker 1: I feel better today. I can't even I'm so excited.
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  Speaker 2: Thank god, because you were low.
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  Speaker 1: I was on the low low low. Yeah, I'm definitely
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  Speaker 1: feeling better. I have energy, my sister's coming to visit,
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  Speaker 1: I have a lot of things to look forward to.
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  Speaker 2: All these things are good. Yeah, you look and feel
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  Speaker 2: a lot better.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm happy for you, Thank you, thank you. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't look as hot as you. Erica walks in
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  Speaker 1: and I go, damn, girl, where are you going after this?
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  Speaker 1: And she goes the dentist.
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  Speaker 2: The dentist, Well, look, I mean, if you'll remember a
• 0:54
  Speaker 2: couple episodes back, my dentist did come up and talk
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  Speaker 2: to me and didn't realize who I was, meaning that
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: he didn't because I go in there looking crazy. But
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, I just felt like I needed to look.
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  Speaker 2: You know how, sometimes you need to dress up for yourself. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's one of the I know it's not like I'm
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  Speaker 2: decked out, but I just needed to pull it together
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  Speaker 2: just to feel something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I need to probably do that sometimes soon.
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  Speaker 2: I think, well, you did it at the wedding and
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  Speaker 2: then you got COVID, so hold on one second, like
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna have something else for you to go to that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that I can razzle dazzle up. Yeah, yeah, gotta
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  Speaker 1: get my hair done soon. Question do you think I
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  Speaker 1: should get just some hot low lights and highlights?
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  Speaker 2: What's the goal blonde or what?
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  Speaker 1: I think it's blonde, but I don't know that I
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  Speaker 1: like the all bleached blonde, like I'd rather now that
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  Speaker 1: it's growing into a pixie, have some dark roots.
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  Speaker 2: But also, well, I think the thing that you're thinking
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  Speaker 2: about is not one tone. Yeah, so I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if it's low lights or or highlights or dark roots.
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  Speaker 2: Like I there are a couple different ways to go,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't think you need to be and because
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  Speaker 2: it's it's a real look to be one color.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and I think one color when my
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  Speaker 1: hair grows as fast as it's been growing, which is nice.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of upkeep, but it's a lot of a
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  Speaker 2: lot of upkeeping. You don't need that, so let's find
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  Speaker 2: a solution.
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking like remember when Drew Barrymore had that pixie
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  Speaker 1: cut and it was like it was kind of rudy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and in the nineties. Yeah, yeah, I like that.
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  Speaker 2: I like that for you. I like, I love a
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  Speaker 2: pixie out.
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  Speaker 1: Of pixie you did. I need to see a picture.
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  Speaker 2: I've like, not shaved my head, but closely cut my
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  Speaker 2: hair twice twice.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever do it again?
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  Speaker 2: No? No, too old my hair for ature. I'll tell
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  Speaker 2: you why. Today we were blowing my hair out and
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  Speaker 2: Lia's like, hey, like you got a lot of breakage. Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I know. And it's just like when you shoot the
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  Speaker 2: season of Housewives trying to like do interesting shit, your
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  Speaker 2: hair gets fucked up. Yeah, my hair needs a rest.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have any sensis a now or no?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's like maybe a clip in but I don't.
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  Speaker 2: But like you don't have no keratins or anything. No,
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  Speaker 2: but my hair is not I think. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: hate to say this, but when you go through menopause
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  Speaker 2: your hair gets a little bit weaker.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you know, well I thought I was going through menopause,
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  Speaker 1: but I started my first time having my period again.
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  Speaker 2: Oh from all of the uh stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it's been almost a year and three days ago.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, which is probably also why I was
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  Speaker 1: feeling even worse. Yes, and then I was like, she's back.
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  Speaker 2: Well wait, hell, dore you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm forty four.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you're fine.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I thought it was gone ers.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, well, I can't imagine all the stress and
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  Speaker 2: all this stuff would take it away.
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  Speaker 1: But they're saying that that's good news because it means
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  Speaker 1: that my hormones are starting to like level out.
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  Speaker 2: It does.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh great, but here we go. She's back.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's okay.
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  Speaker 1: But I like that I have the energy because this
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  Speaker 1: we have a lot to get through.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's get through it. Let's start. Let's start episode.
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  Speaker 2: What is this eleven? This is episode eleven, Episode eleven,
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  Speaker 2: Guys eleven.
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  Speaker 1: But before we even get into the episode, we have
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  Speaker 1: two little things that kind of we're all over the
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  Speaker 1: internet that we must discuss.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: So Georgio says that's his Instagram name. He did a
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  Speaker 1: post and he was talking about Slade Smiley's website for
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  Speaker 1: his alleged production company, Yes Grayson Entertainment LLC. Georgio saw
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  Speaker 1: a lot of red flax.
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  Speaker 2: Yes It says that Grayson Enterprises. Is it Grayson Entertainment
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  Speaker 2: or Grayson Enterprises. Okay, So Slade lists out networks that
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  Speaker 2: this production company has allegedly worked with, sort of like
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  Speaker 2: History Channel, CBS, Bravo, and NBC. So and Georgio did
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  Speaker 2: say this because I watched. He was like, hey, these
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  Speaker 2: are some big, big networks. Obviously, the Bravo NBC thing, like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: you know I could see where you would first off,
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  Speaker 2: I first off, what are you doing? What productions are
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  Speaker 2: you doing? But okay, the Bravo NBC thing, like I
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  Speaker 2: can see the History Channel and CBS.
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  Speaker 1: History Channel on CBS.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, where does that fit right now?
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  Speaker 1: All we're finding is that there was a podcast that
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  Speaker 1: this company was a part of and it says I'm
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  Speaker 1: Not Too Taboo, a podcast with Gretchen and Slade, which
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  Speaker 1: was on Amazon. It's the only thing that Georgia saw
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  Speaker 1: that Grayson Entertainment has produced. Also on the team page.
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  Speaker 2: I mean are these stock photos?
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  Speaker 1: They are stock photos?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? And here's the thing, guys, like, I mean, not the.
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  Speaker 1: Stock stock photos and not only that, and then one
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  Speaker 1: page is just a template like it says like insert
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  Speaker 1: your caption here.
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  Speaker 2: I saw that too. Does that mean? This is how
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  Speaker 2: I'm curious how Georgio ran up on this? Has anybody
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  Speaker 2: else come up with has this been discussed before? I
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  Speaker 2: don't want let me know, let us know in the
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  Speaker 2: comments or or if not, how did Georgio run up
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  Speaker 2: on this?
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  Speaker 1: Well, because then he also looked up and saw Grayson
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  Speaker 1: Entertainment belongs to an l else of another couple in
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  Speaker 1: Mayes also says business has been suspended since taxes were
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  Speaker 1: not paid.
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  Speaker 2: Good old FTB. Honey, h well, it's pretty dead. Let
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  Speaker 2: me be fucking with them. You're fucking with the FEDS
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  Speaker 2: or the FTB, and you know why. I'm rolling my eyes.
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  Speaker 1: But it's pretty clear why Gretchen is the one who
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  Speaker 1: has it's in charge of the.
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  Speaker 2: Bills, the bills. Has slave filed for bankruptcy? Do we know?
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  Speaker 2: I mean I think somebody would have said it by now,
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  Speaker 2: like you filed for bankruptcy? Is he? Can you? I
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  Speaker 2: know that if you do a bankruptcy that child support
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  Speaker 2: is a non dischargeable debt, no record.
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  Speaker 1: No record bankruptcy.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but how does he.
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  Speaker 1: That's event?
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  Speaker 2: And as we get on into the episode, we see
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  Speaker 2: like what is his income? Where does it come from.
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  Speaker 1: What is he doing on a day to day basis right?
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  Speaker 2: Like, how is he paying four things? Or is she
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  Speaker 2: which her answer, Gretchen's answer at the sleepover with Heather
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  Speaker 2: and Emily led me to believe that she is a
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  Speaker 2: number one the breadwinner, the soul breadwinner, and number two
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  Speaker 2: obviously paying for all the stuff, which is.
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  Speaker 1: Fine, which is fine, which is fine.
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  Speaker 2: If that works for you, go out and say it
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  Speaker 2: like that. But yeah, if that because she didn't want
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  Speaker 2: to answer it, but somebody's going to answer it for you,
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  Speaker 2: I'm afraid, so just say, yeah, I do it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in charge of the finances. He helps me
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  Speaker 1: manage my life and take care of my daughter.
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  Speaker 2: I do like the fact that she has not married him,
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  Speaker 2: and that to me is a little bit of a
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  Speaker 2: flag for me, like, eh, you didn't marry him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So does he have judgments? Does he have debt that
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  Speaker 2: she doesn't want to take on? Probably maybe I'm speculating.
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  Speaker 2: Don't get mad at me, you put it on TV.
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  Speaker 1: But I hope that she's not just letting him run
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  Speaker 1: her finances.
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  Speaker 2: Well as somebody who did trust and got fucked. Gretchen,
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  Speaker 2: I hope you're not doing that. No, she said she
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  Speaker 2: has all of her own line. Wait does she said
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  Speaker 2: they had a joint account.
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  Speaker 1: No good, They've never had a joint account.
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  Speaker 2: And she's always kept her own money. And she did
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  Speaker 2: say I didn't want a man to financially control me,
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  Speaker 2: which I think is wonderful.
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  Speaker 1: Very smart, wonderful. I kept mine all separate.
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  Speaker 2: I remember you selling you telling us that, Yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: kept all of your separate. Super smart. Yeah. So let
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  Speaker 2: me ask you this, like, and I think that this
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: came up on the show, like who paid for the grocery?
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: I know it's a stupid thing, but like, who would
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: go to Gelsonstone here and buy groceries? So how does
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  Speaker 2: that work out? Like? You do you have a signed
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  Speaker 2: for us?
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  Speaker 1: We had one, We still do. We have one joint
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  Speaker 1: card that is for the kids only. You see what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: I don't because I've never had to do this and
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  Speaker 2: clearly I'm a ding don.
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  Speaker 1: So we have one. It's called a divvy card, okay,
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  Speaker 1: And a certain amount is put on there a month
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  Speaker 1: and that's for like the kids' expenses.
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  Speaker 2: Right, so the two of you could contribute the same
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  Speaker 2: amount to that.
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  Speaker 1: Edwin pays for that and then I pay for any
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: we quickly go over the divvy.
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  Speaker 2: But like he's paying the school tuition, Edwin, Okay, he's
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  Speaker 2: paying the mortgage is split.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, Edwin, right, and then I pay for all
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  Speaker 1: of the extras.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So like right now it's Rosa Shanna. So our kids
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: aren't in school, so like they're at the jumpy place,
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: so you're playing for the jump place. Okay, cool birthdays,
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  Speaker 1: those types of things. I mean, Edwin has always been
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  Speaker 1: the bread winner with us, but I've always kind of
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  Speaker 1: kept my money separate. If it's something that I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do, I did it.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm sure you probably contribute to the household and
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  Speaker 2: to all of the expenses in finance.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And I mean I'm sure this will all
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  Speaker 1: change as things go on, of course, but this is
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  Speaker 1: how it was. This is how it was, and so
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: we're trying to keep everything the same way it was before.
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  Speaker 1: I like that, and I'm just trying.
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  Speaker 2: To now, yeah, let's just keep it how it's going.
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  Speaker 2: It's running, it's manageable.
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  Speaker 1: It's yeah, and I'm just trying to be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit smarter with my money. Now.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, you know, here's the thing. We
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  Speaker 2: all want to be independent, we all want to control
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  Speaker 2: these things. But you know, being adulting is hard.
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  Speaker 1: Adulting is hard. It is hard, and especially when you
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: have multiple kids at all different ages. But I can
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: say this, it was very easy for me to answer
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: that question. Yes, Why was it so hard for Gretchen
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  Speaker 1: to answer.
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: This because she's paying for everything? Because it was easy
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  Speaker 2: for me to say, oh, no, Tom, Tom definitely the
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  Speaker 2: bread winner, and I gave every check I ever had
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  Speaker 2: back to him. Now what he did with it, clearly,
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  Speaker 2: we don't know. But that's how it was. You know,
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  Speaker 2: that was Tom's house, it was Tom's firm, it was
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  Speaker 2: Tom's stuff. Yes, every job I got, I gave him
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  Speaker 2: the money.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, other than that, but it's pretty easy to.
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  Speaker 2: Explain pretty much what's going on around here.
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty easy to explain. This next one is
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: an Instagram story. I feel like we're going to start
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: getting a lot of.
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  Speaker 2: These ready for the reunion.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so Jen Pradonci did one of those Q and
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  Speaker 1: a's and she somebody said, are you ready for the reunion?
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  Speaker 1: And she responds, sure, I just show up the day
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: of the reunion. I know some people plot and plan
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: for months. I don't do that. Let's just address all
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: the matters that need to be addressed and hopefully try
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: to move on. I'm sure some will try to unearth
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: skeletons on people. I have zero interest in all of that.
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: What is your take on that?
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: Well, my take on that is I watched the last
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  Speaker 1: reunion and I don't remember her just coming in and
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: moving right on from things interesting. So if that's what
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: she's her plan is this season, then let's see how
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: that goes.
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  Speaker 2: Well. I think there are different levels, and I think
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  Speaker 2: that we both have experience in this talking about a reunion.
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: And please, if you've never done a reunion, keep your
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  Speaker 2: comments to yourself, because you don't know what it's like.
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: You don't not only the women who are on these
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: shows that actually sit down there know what the feeling
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  Speaker 2: is you are watching it. We actually do it. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm real confident when I say this. We all know
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: people who do plot and plan. There are others that
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: come in that are like, hey, I don't feel as
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: if I have to answer for much this year. It
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: was pretty straightforward. So I think that everyone's reunion quote,
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: let's just say prep can be different based upon what's
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: going on this season. But there are those who take
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: time to really go in and think that it is
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: a full court press to really get at or make
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: up for, or hit back at things that you.
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  Speaker 1: Know or not necessarily things that most of the time
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  Speaker 1: you have to prep for because you know it.
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, you do know it, but there are some things
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  Speaker 2: that people will throw at you and you're like, I
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: wasn't even thinking about that, and I've moved on from that,
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: Why haven't you?
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah? But were you somebody that would go back and
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: you know, like the day before when they'd send like
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: five or six episodes to watch right before the union,
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: did you watch or you just were.
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: Like when I first started, the answer was yes. Now
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  Speaker 2: I look at key things that I think will be
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: into you know, at this point, because I have a
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: lot of experience, I pretty much know where the questions
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: are going to go just based on what you're seeing,
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: and then you can go, m hmm, this is probably
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: nine times out of ten you're going to get a
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: question about this. Yes, So what is your answer and
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: remind yourself of what was shown to the audience versus
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: what you remember. And also, if you're going to get
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: into a squabble and other people were there, you can
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: also look at them and say, I think you were there.
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: Do you remember it going down this way? Because sometimes
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: when you're the lone voice in the woods and you're
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: fighting it out with somebody or you're having a disagreement
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: and others were present, you can say, I'm pretty sure
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: that these people saw this as well. Do you have
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: anything since this is what we're here to do, do
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: you have anything to say about this?
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: So we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. Well, I'm excited
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: you realized that I never even watched last season of
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: Beverly Hills because I was in the hospital.
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: Thank god, I mean not that you were in the hospital,
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: but thank god you didn't watch. You know who cares?
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  Speaker 1: Ah, So I'm gonna have to go back. That gives
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: me an idea.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: I need to tell me.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: I need to go back and like binge this season
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: because I'm going to have to be recapping.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: Well, just call me and ask me what you need
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: to know about last season, not this season.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: Clarity, Yeah, last season.
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  Speaker 2: I can tell you exactly. Well, let me see what
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: am I thinking where I'm thinking this is going this year?
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: And obviously I don't know, I only know what I shot.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: I think once you watched last season, you'll be pretty
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: it's it's not going to be a couple of things
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: you may be confused about, but that's it.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: I'll be able to pick it up.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, you'll be able to pick it
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: up real quick. Okay, No, it's nothing there. You may
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: have one or two questions that you'd like me clarity on,
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: but that's it.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Yeah, we're back into Macula. Gina mentions that
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: she didn't like how Tamar shit on Shannon last year
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: for her drinking and now takes her away to have
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: a drink.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: I agree, I didn't like it either. Where either're going
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: to You can't call somebody an alcoholic and then offer
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: them a drink. Let's go get a drink and then
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: say something later. Tamra says something like well, and I'm paraphrasing,
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: so don't fuck me up, something like, well, she she
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: knows how much she can drink or whatever she's doing,
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: she's in am I right on that, like she's in
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: recovery or something like that. Was something like that, and
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: I don't like that, like.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: She said, Tamra said something along the lines of like,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: I think drinking as Shannon's love language.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Hmm. I think that was a quote, right, But we
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: don't need to be encouraging that love language. No, you know,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: she hit a house. Did we ever find out about
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: the molar?
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: The molar's been gone for a while.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: But why not get a new mollin?
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: But why not let us know since last pod that
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: we did?
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just reach out to us, let us know, ladies.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: I may have hit the house, but I was missing
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: the teeth before that.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: But yeah, just let us let us let some girls
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: know so we can talk about it.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: But I don't. I would not if I were Tamara,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: and I really felt very strongly about what I said
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: last year about calling her an alcoholic. I would not
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: offer her drinks or encourage her to drink because it
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: seems uh counterintuitive and mean, it's not good, it's not great,
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: it's not good. Then you draw her back into a
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: thing because you know she's nine times out of tang
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: gonna take the drink, and then you know, and it's
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: going to come back, because it's just it's the same
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: old cycle. You either want to break this cycle and
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: move on or you don't. And the way you don't
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: break it and continue it is by talking about drinking
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: or encouraging her to drink or talk about her she.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Probably if she wanted that drink, she was gonna go
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: get it regardless.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Right, So Tamar didn't need to help her. Yeah, so
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: there you go.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: So I think that was like one of those things
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: they left, Uh what was it, psychic? Yeah, they left
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: the not the psychic. It was like the voodoo person.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: And then they're like, what should we do and that's
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: where they want to go get drinks.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so y'all don't need to be fucking with voodoo.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: By the way, that ship can be very spiritually. You
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: can open some spiritual warfare if you fuck with the
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: wrong people. Don't do that.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: No things on the Then Tamar asked Shannon what she
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: can do to make things better, and Shannon says time
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: is what she needs.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Well, that's all we have, but some of us. So
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: it's dark, but it's good.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: You know what what it is.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: It is what it is.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Then we panta Heather telling Emily and Gretchen that Tamara
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: can be mean when she's upset, and Heather has had
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: difficult people like that in her life.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: You know what Heather, I soldiered for you last week
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: when I said you weren't afraid of her, and then
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: this week you said you were and it it's because
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: of your dad, and I was like, damn it.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I know. She brings up her dad, who would have
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: outbursts in public and he would have random explosions, And
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: then she wanted Tamar to understand that sometimes she acts
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: that way and makes her feel uncomfortable because of her
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: I wish she would have said that to Tamora.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: I wish you would have said that to Tamara, and
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: also in the moment, and it would have explained why
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: she's quiet or she tries to make it go away.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: And then if you say that in the moment, it's
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: far more effective you say it to the person. It's like, look,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: when you do that, it scarce a shit out of me.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you why my dad did this, and
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: it would make me so crazy. So when you do that,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: it just doesn't. It's not like Tamra's fault, but it does.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I've noticed this too. We do. And I don't want
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: to get all like therapy on us, but we do.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: We take things that happened to us, like patterns that
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: we've unknowingly created and they do affect us late.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean even going back of a jillion
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: years to the time you made me cry. Yes, it
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: really had nothing.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: To do with nothing to do with me. It's how you.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's how I perceived one like yeah, like just
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: that little snap mm hmm. It was something from like
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: my childhood, right. I don't like being snapped at, right,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: and so I went into.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: A full like right exactly.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: It was back to being a little kid.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: And that's what happens to a lot of us.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: And I wish I would have had the wherewithal to say, then, hey, Erica,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not even upset the way you just talk to me.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: It really has more to do with yeah, I.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Don't know how to process when people talk to me.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: And I would have said, like Jesus, like well fun, yeah,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: you know, because and also too, like I'm so glad
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: that I almost said that my life fell apart. But
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I am kind of glad that my life fell apart.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why because it forced me to
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: go on a journey and look at my whole life.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: And now, if someone said something like that to me,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: if you said, hey, I don't like I would be like,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: oh my god, how irresponsible, and I'm not responsible for
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: everybody's you know, you're not responsible for But I would
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: have been far more understanding and been like, you know what,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I I'm sorry for that, Like I didn't, that was
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: not my intention. And I'm snapping, by the way, I'm
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: snapping because of some shit in my Yeah, I mean, well,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: just repeating old ass patterns, y'all.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: And then we're just reacting to what we feel in
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: the moment.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Instead of thinking about it.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Instead of being like, this isn't a big.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Deal, This isn't a big deal. Let's take a step back,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: not react in the moment and say, wait a minute,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: what's really going on here? But also too, that's why
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: you like the show?
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I wish I do wish she had said
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: that to tam Tama. I wish she would have said
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: it to Tamra, because I didn't like the way she
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: said it to those two, in particular.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: What you mean that she said it to them or
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: the way she said it to them both interesting.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: And especially without having said it to Tama, For.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I would prefer that she had said it to Tama.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Not looking for an excuse, but looking for an explanation. Hey,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: when you do these things, it gives me anxiety. And
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: the reason for that is I have history with this
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: and when, and it's not your fault, but I'm just
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: telling you the way I react when this happens is
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: you know, a deep seated and you know, and then
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: go work on that if you want to.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, then the girls and Beverly Hills go to the abbey.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Emily is picked up by a man and simulates in
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: our course.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: As you should when you're at a gay bar and
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: you're with friendlies.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Gretchen is pole dancing, and she says she's experienced and
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: pulled dancing. And then Emily says she likes Gretcha's when
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: she is not.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: A praying content content and I I, Emily, you know what,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: First off, why is it called Gretcher's. She called Gretcher's.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: It's kind of cute like Stretchers. Gretcher's was on a Stretcher.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: But I would take Emily's food stick like taking food and.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Gummy worms and stuff, all that stuff over.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Again.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, Gretcher's bothers you that much.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Gretchers.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: We've got Shannon with the cooking, Emily with the food
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: and the purse, Gretchen praise, what do I do? We're
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: not going to get into it. I'm sure we could
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: come up with some shit. No, I don't want to
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: see the praying content create. I mean, it's cute, I
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: get it, but I don't want to see it either.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: All right. In the car ride home, Heather, Emily and
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Gretchen talk about going to karaoke, and Gretchen wonders if
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: they'll play her song, and Heather forgot she had a song,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: and then Gretchen corrects her and says she has four
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: and that Temper tried to be a singer and she
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: has the audio. Emily asked when this, Well says when
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Tamra banged blank and insinuates Tamar was married. Then okay,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: well what do you know about this?
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: So, and by the way, you don't don't you are
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: a CIA level investigative operatives.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: So I think when you get a bleep out of
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: the singer's name, shit must have hit the fan.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: So someone says it's a gen X person. I'm gen X?
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Are you a gen X? No?
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: No?
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, millennial fuck off? Was Tamara married? At
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: this time. I'm married at this time, and I'm fucking somebody,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: But it doesn't mean anything.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Well, I think the thing is Tamora. It wasn't fucking somebody.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I've never seen a worse excuse for being shady than
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I wonder if they'll play my song, Like, don't you think, Wow,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: that's what she was hoping for in that moment.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I think it is. I think she was hoping that
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: they play her song. It would be a nice blast
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: from the past. And she has four and we all
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: know how that goes.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't heard any of those. I also haven't
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: heard Tamor's song.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't think Tama was. I don't know, but
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: I don't not trying to be a singer or performer
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: or anything like that. It was probably a one off
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: that she got asked to do. So anybody that puts
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: in their best effort, that's great. But the real singer
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: here in this group, in my opinion, is Heather, who's
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: awfully quiet about it. Or we know you can.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Sing, yeah, but then we're back and back together.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Heather, do it. Heather, and I expect a song at
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Bravo Khan and I'm not.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Kidding oh, I haven't heard anything about that.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: No, I'm going to see her out there. I Erica.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: I am going to corner Heather at the right time
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: with no one around, and I'm gonna be like, bitch,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I know you can sing because our voice teacher told
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: me so. And I want you to sing, not for
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: anybody else, just quietly for me.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: You want your own performance.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Well, I just want to. I just want I know
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: she can sing.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I want to hear it.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: She she has a voice.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Then back at Heather sleepover Gretchen FaceTime slade. At this point,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I think Gretchen's pretty sloshed.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can hear it in the slurring.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can hear it in the slurring. You can
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: see it with like.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: The throvements in the air, all of it.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh gosh, the next thing, she's gonna ask
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: for chips. I'm so angry. He is so excited to
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: jump into this conversation.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Well again, another wannabe orange holder. We've said this before. Oh,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: and by all means, like all of you who said
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: I'd never been loved by a man before that ever
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: stuck up for me. You were right, you were fucking right. Yeah,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: you're right. But not like that, like I can handle
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: my own shit. Okay, keep going.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Well, then he claims that not only was Tama recording
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: a song with the singer and they messed around, they
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: forgot the audio.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: I was on like I've spent a lot of time
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: in his studio.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: And that there's audio of them having sex.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: So what did the inch near do?
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was just like, hey, hey.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Let's let this roll, like nobody loving this loving this?
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: So did the engineer? Not was the engineer in now?
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: And I'm sorry if this happened and we had to
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: remember this happened. What is it fourteen between fourteen and
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: eighteen years ago? It happened in twenty ten, So how
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: many years ago is that?
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Fifteen?
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Fifteen years ago? You don't think this would have come
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: out by now?
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Well I was kind of thinking that too, like, we don't.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Think this would have already hit the pages.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: And reality blurb picked it out. I'm gree this fucking shit,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: this life, this Housewives universe is so fucking great. I'm
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: telling you, I.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Could just imagine Slade. He's like at home, he's got
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: makeup on, he's got his ringer at X volume, and
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: his on camera phone call, he's ready for his moment
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: with his glasses, with his glasses on.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: But he was ready with the facts, but then he
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: wasn't ready for Like, here's the thing all the girls
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: were asking, was we want to hear the song? Yeah,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: the girls wanted to hear the Tamra song. And he
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: was like, well, you know what the real what the
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: real that gotcha gotcha is is that this alleged encounter
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: was recorded. Because okay, he claims there's audio of them
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: having sex. If so, Tamra, you're a rock star. Put
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: it out. Gretchen says she's never heard she's never had
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: the audio.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: But she's heard it. She's saying she heard the audio,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: but she doesn't happen.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: So who's computer is this?
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Oh no, she said she had the audio of the
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: So who produced this shit? There's two different tho.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I want to know who's the session, who ran the session?
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: And who where are these files? Yeah, and how did
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: they get sent the files? If this is a no
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: hate thing, then who has these files? Who has these
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: audio files? And how did they get shipped out?
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: That's that and also the fact that there's two totally
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: separate things that we're discussing here. Yes, clearly there's this
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: thing from No Hate where there's music being played. But
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: now Slade adding in that he also heard the When
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: did you hear the audio?
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: And well, not only that, who sent it to.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: You fifteen years ago? You remember it?
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: So were you in the same session and you heard
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: it in studio? Or did someone send you the session this.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Part of Grayson Enterprises or Grayson What's Ells?
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know Van I's LLC. Guys.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I'm just laughing because my life's the shambles, you know,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: it's I don't think I'm being rude.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: But then they never send the song all that, Then
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: they never.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Saw all that. We never get to hear it, And
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: don't say that you can't play it, that you didn't
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: get the rights to it, then put it on your
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: fucking Instagram. Yeah, then don't tell me this is what
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: I don't want to hear. Well, we can't play it, bitch,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: as you can.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Well you just talked about it.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Well not only that, Well, we could never get it cleared.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah you can, yes you could, Yeah you can.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: There are many ways to do this.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think the song was like a
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Tina Turner song. No, no, no, I'm pretty sure.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: And if you've got her vocals, I heard isolated vocals
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: and let them out.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: But then the next morning at breakfast, Emily asks Gretchen
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: if she will ever get married to Slade.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: This is what we're talking about here, This is the
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: meat and potatoes of this. She and Gretchen used to
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: worry about getting married to him years ago because he
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: was getting caught up with back debt. Valid she didn't
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: want to take it on in the marriage agreed, good girl.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: She mentions that they are financially separate. Yay, Gretchen. She
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: pays for everything and the house is in her name. Okay,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: even groceries come out of her bank account. Okay, hey
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: that's fine. So you run him.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: But she didn't fully say that. She beat around the bush,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: saying that.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they had to pull it out of
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: her as only Emily can do but lawyer skills. But
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: these are the things that she said. I don't I mean,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: if that's how she wants to live. It seems to
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: me that she likes Slade but does not trust Slade.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: It seems to me like she likes Slade. They have
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: a good life, They have a daughter together.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: And that's great and they just want to because did
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: you see where Emily said, I married Shane, I don't
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: have a pre nap. I married Tom. I didn't have
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: a pre nap.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I don't know about Heather and Terry,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: but who cares. I mean, you know, they're not going
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: to unravel that anyway.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I couldn't tell.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, Heather and Terry and her there have combined finances. Yes,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: and he says they're one person, and they are he
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: is correct in that. So yeah, you're basically talking to
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: one person.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Who do you think was more Matt Gretchen at this
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: being talked about the next day, when she had hoped
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: that everybody had forgotten what she said, or or the
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: guy who was having to make the eggs.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: By the way, who I think is the herbal chef
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: the Denise Richards weed dinner. I think, honey, is that
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: you because you need to come. I think that's Sam
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: where he goes bro dude, Denise Richards is fucked up
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: and she was like, go wash ther show, wash the show.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: I'm like, we're on the.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Show, the show at this current moment.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the same guy. The herbal chef
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: is that you babe, I have his number. I'm gonna
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: text because he needs to cook for me.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: But I don't think he ever gave them the eggs
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: that they.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Were no And I love that he was like, I
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: am doing that.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: He's like, because I checked all their plates afterwards and
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I was like, no, no one got.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: These, No one got these these eggs.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: The eggs over hard, No no one got them.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: And he said, I don't do that.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Then Gretchen tells Emily and Heather that they got her
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: in trouble. Then they're getting.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Massages well, and then wait, hold on. Emily says everything
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: between she and Shane is joy and she didn't sign
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: a prenup understand, Yeah, got.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: That for sure. And then Gretchen tells Emily and Heather
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: they got her in trouble about bringing up Tamra's audio.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Gretchen doesn't want them to say anything, and Gretchen says
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: she's never said anything about an affair that was slack.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: That's not true because in the car she may not
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: have remembered that.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: But then Emily says she took the situation and made
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: them villains. She also says Gretchen and Tamara are the
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: same because they both tried to expose each other's affairs.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: At the morning after trying to say, look, you said
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: what you said, Yeah, Tamor's going to find out about it.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: You should actually go to her first and be like, hey,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: just so you know, I said some fucked up shit.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: But let's now, is this going to be like expose
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: each other's affairs?
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: This is going to be this is going to turn
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: into a massive thing.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, I think it's going to turn into
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: a big thing.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because now it's going to show up. Leading up
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: until now, they've been kind of putting it all on Tam.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: TAM's bringing up the past, even though has slowly been
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: bread crumbing bread crumbing. But watching this scene and then
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Qretchen's remorse afterwards, like that panic that this is going
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: to come by me in the ass.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: It is going to come by you.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: In the plan all along. I wonder how long she's
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: been trying to get this story out there.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Well, apparently since reality blurb in twenty seventeen. No, I
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: don't know that to be true. I'm just speculating, so
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: don't get mad at me, But somebody wanted this story
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: out for a long time.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Somebody wanted this story out for a long time, and
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I think it's kind of like a little bit ridiculous.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, who cares? I mean, the press, Why are we digging?
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: It's old beef. It's just eighteen year old seventeen year
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: old beef. We've talked about this on the show before,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: about how they're going back and talking about these old things.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: And now you had an affair. Well, you had an affair.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: The hypocrisy is back and forth. Who fucking cares. It's over.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: You guys have current lives and that's where it should be.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: And I don't. And you guys can say I'm being biased.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I do not think Tamar had an affair with this man.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: I have no idea, so I can't speculate. I mean,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. I don't know enough to say.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I don't don't.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Think that there would be audio of a sexual encounter,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: well on a in a studiodio where you're recording a
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: no hate.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: That's my point. Like, if you were kicking it in
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: the studio and it was four am, and you were
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: with some hot person, you know, and you wanted to
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: suck his dick, and maybe the engineer left the mic open, Okay,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: but I don't think that's what's happening.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's what's happening here. I think they're
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: trying to make it into something into something more kind
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: of like naked wasted.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Kind of like naked wasted. Here's the other thing too,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: If you got this audio, drop it. Yeah, you don't
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: have this audio, don't don't allude to things that may
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: or may not be.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: And also, why is you're not offended when Emily is
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: clearly trying to get her tipsy?
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: I saw that too.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like she wasn't offended at all because.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: She because you know why, then she can go back
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: and say Emily got me tipsy. And that's why I
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: was talking all this ship and that's the perfect cover.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I went over to Heather's and we went out. We
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: went to the abbey and we had so many drinks
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: and then I said this stuff, but I don't really
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: remember what I said in the car what the camera does?
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: And and then I called Slade and instead of playing
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: the song like the girls were asking.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: We discussed more about Tamera. And now it's the next
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: morning with the herbal chef. I think it's you, and
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: now I'm having regret.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Regret and eggs and.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Regret and not even prepared the way I requested. Regretful eggs,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: regretful eggs.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Then we go back to Temecula. A lot of this
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: episode was at the slumber party, which is cute.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I like it was cute. It's fun.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Heather shout out to Wonder Tents. That's my guess
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: who did it?
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, hey.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: But you know it was fun and nice. I wonder
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: if Heather actually slept in that.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Room, I mean maybe for ten minutes.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: I don't wonder if any of them slept.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: In that room where they rotated into the room where
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: they were.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Having Who is liking how Gavin has to spend the
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: night with us with his iPhone just in case something
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: jumps up. Who is the Gavin down there? I don't know.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Probably Gavin probably.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Per gave for Gavin.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I love you, we love you, Gavin, miss you. Then
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Shannon tells the group in Temecula her history with her
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: parents and how it was.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: It was it was difficult, yeah.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: And then Tamus brings up Shannon's dad having a drinking problem.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, stop right there, we saw Shannon's dad earlier this year.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: He's a sweet man. Yeah, here's the thing, and this
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: is why I think Shannon gets hurt. Like she can
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: talk about her dad having a drinking problem, but you can't.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: And it's like I can talk about what a horrible
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: person Tom Girardi was, but when somebody else does, I'm
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: not gonna lie. I get a little like Hold on
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: a second, you know what I mean, Like, because it's
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: the instinct of protecting people that have been in your
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: life for a very long time.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Even if that person is trying to give you comfort, it.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Doesn't matter just the other way. But it's also even
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: if it's under the guise of comfort, their relationship is
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: not the best anyway. Yeah, it's always teetering on. You
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: said this, and then you've got her calling her an alcoholic.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: So this right here, for me is a lot of
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: And then Shannon said she didn't like that her I've
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: a conversation with Tamara was brought up on camera.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: We all know this. No private conversations in this world.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. You know better than that. She knows better
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: than that, we know better than that. The audience knows
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: better than that.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Dun jin speaks might be for the first time.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: This episode, Yeah, which is fine with me.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: She thinks that Tamora is trying to lay out that
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Shannon's father suffered from alcoholism, so that the connection can
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: be made that it runs in the family, because Gina
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: was kind of the opposite ways, like she was like, no,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: I think she was just trying to be a friend,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: and then.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Gin's like, no, I think maybe we're pointing out something
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: else here. Yeah, either way, the man's ninety six.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Either way, the man is ninety six, and everybody's made
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: their time sessions already. But Shannon is clearly upset.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: She said she her therapist told her not to come. Well,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: you don't get paid if you don't, so we can
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: see how far that went.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Tamra says, Shannon doesn't even really care about her father.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: That's not fair. I can't do that, Tamara. No, you
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: don't know that. But this is what she couldn't come
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: back and say, Tamor, you know, here's the thing. Then
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: somebody could come back and say, well, you don't care
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: about your daughter, you know what I mean, Like, don't
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: do that. Let's not do that.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Then it gets bad. But this is what you know,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: clearly Tamara has been trying to be working on but
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: then whenever she gets plushed or feels rejection, she was reactive.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: But you're going to have to suffer with those consequences
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: because you have to do better. They step back. If
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: you know you do this, you're going to have to
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: own what you do. And sorries only go so far,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: because if you're constantly apologizing for something that you're allegedly
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: working on but you don't have control over it. Yeah,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: you know. So I didn't like that out of Tamar,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: and I think she's better than that. And we don't
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: need to beat up on Shannon or the relationship with
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: her dad because the truth is we don't know, and
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: maybe it's very complicated, like all of our relationships with
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: our parents. I mean, we all have very complicated relationships
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: with our parents. So let's not be beaten up on
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: the parents.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: But I think this is the camera that Heather was
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: talking about when she's upset. She knows how to say
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: things that get under your skin.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's more than getting under your skin. There
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: are levels of getting under my skin. There's levels that irritate,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: there are levels that make me, you know, bitchy back.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: There are levels that make me want to cry, and
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: then when you make me cry, then you can get mean.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Then I can get really mean. And so I think
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: that we have to I think I've been giving this
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: some thought. Maybe I think I'm right. You know, these
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: shows are here to entertain and have a good time.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: And I was watching an interview I think it was
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: on Derinda's Serious, her radio show, Yeah, and she had
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Leuan on and they were talking about New York and
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: why it worked, and I forget which one of them will.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: I think it might have been. I don't know if
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: it was. They said, well, what's happened is the shows
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: have become so very dark, and like, am I kind
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: of talking about this shit? I am am I talking
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: about what's happened on our show with all of us.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: I am am I talking about lately. Yeah, Deunda and
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Countess are right, you know, it used to be silly,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: used to be silly. Now people are going to prison.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: You've got you know, bad people doing bad things on shows.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: You've got women's lives being really turned upside down. And yes,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: we all sign up for we're also signing up to entertain.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: And when it becomes like blood Sport, it's no longer entertaining.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: They're right, it's dark.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: But I think the difference between New York and a
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: lot of these other franchises is New York. You know,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: the og New York. They were they weren't planned out, No,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: it was kind of some hot messes going out there.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Or they were just some chicks that were authentically being themselves.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: They were New Yorkers, they were doing their thing, and
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: they were they were fiercely confident enough in their own
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: skin to show what they really were really doing. Yeah,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: but the shows have changed so much. And look, I'm
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: guilty too, so I'm not excusing myself.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I mean I agree with you in the darkness. I
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: mean except when we go back to like season one
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Beverly Hills. There was that season one or season two
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: where there was a suicide. Yeah, it's alcoholism discussions.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have Kim and Kyle fighting in the limo.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: I could see where people would say that was dark.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Taylor's situation certainly dark, yes, but then it continues and
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: it perpetuates. That's I think what I'm hinging on here. Yeah.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, then there's a switch to something else, right, and
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: now there's not it's like we're just always dark. It's
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: just focusing on that, digging deeper and deep right into
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: that one situation.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Right. We don't need you to be surface level, but
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: surface level is entertaining to a point. You do watch
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: to escape, you do watch to have fun. It can't
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: always be dark. There has to be some sort of balance.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: And I think that recently, and I'm talking across all shows,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: and certainly I'm speaking from my own personal experience. It's
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: been a lot more dark than light, and the lightness
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: needs to return so that you can laugh. We can laugh,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: the audience can laugh.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: But there needs to be real friendships, yes, yes.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: And not transactional situations. But also too listen, this is
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: a top down problem. It comes from the top. It
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: goes into production, it goes into what people say on
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: social media. I'm sorry to say, but you know, you're
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: getting very mixed messages. It's hard to be authentically yourself
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: and then you find out that, yeah, I was authentically myself,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: but that's not what we're showing over there. That's true,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: and that's true. And unfortunately, sometimes or most of the time,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: seasons hone in on one or two stories, and that's
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: what gets pushed so hard and there's not much comedy,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: you know, there's not much lightness or that much comedic relief.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: But that's my rant for today. Well, I know when
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: you talk about darkness, are women coming in to destroy
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: each other, to take one one each other apart?
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I think before people were just living their lives.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: And sometimes I think the whole thing has evolved and
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: become much bigger than they thought it would ever be.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: And it you can and it attracts a different but
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: it's kind of the nature of the show, like it's
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: changed so much.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Changed so much, and so is the world that we
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: live in.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: You better believe it. And that's a good point. There
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: was no social media really, maybe Twitter certainly when the
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: shows started, not Instagram, I don't think, maybe Facebook, who knows.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: But it's a completely different animal beast under percent. But
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I mean I did like this episode.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: I did too. I thought it's going to lead to
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: another episode that's going to be good. We're going to
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: have you.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Know, I think they go on the trip soon.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Where's the trip?
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Had I forget Amsterdam? The trips in Amsterdam?
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Well, Well, hey, Lisa, shout out to Lisa. By the way,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: you see that nice Vogue thing. Love you so much,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I want and like the Katie thing not
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: filming with her, and now I guess the Gretchen thing
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: allegedly blows up so bad later on. I don't know.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just bitching, but I do wish that there
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: was more balance, and I think that Derinda and the
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Countess had a good point.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there needs to be more fun. Yeah, needs to
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: be more fun.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: And there need to be people on the shows that
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: want to have more fun. And we need to look,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: life is already bad enough. We know what we're already battling.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I want more fun.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: You need to I know, That's what I'm saying. Yeah,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: like you deserve more fun.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: But being on the hunt for fun is also good
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: and entertaining to.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Watch exactly, and there's some you know, fun things.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: You can do, so we want to see that too.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Yep, we want more fun.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Thanks guys for tuning in to another episode of Diamonds
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: in the Rough and we will be back, hopefully soon
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: to recap the next episode.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks so much. Sorry for the rant, but not
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: really