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Origin: Spirit of the past · Anime Club Podcast

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Oh you, I love how you're just sitting there smiling like a
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gremlin because you know what you've done.
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Hi everyone, Welcome back to Anime Club, the show where every
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week we get together and we talk about our anime, sometimes from
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a dusty old classroom, sometimes from a forest filled with
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spirits of the past. This week we are doing a film
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and I have with me my wonderful Co host Christopher Need.
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All right, Yeah, All right. Yeah.
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And we're doing origin spirits of the past.
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How do you feel coming into this episode?
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I've genuinely gone into a blind because I said I'd recognize the
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cover, but that's about as much as I knew about this going into
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it. I think I'd saw the cover in
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HMV. That was about it.
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I hadn't had anyone talking about it.
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I still haven't seen anyone talking about it, and I'm sure
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there will be. But yeah, it was different.
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It was different, wasn't it? So, and this is one of the
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reasons I got excited and wanted to recommend it to you because I
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think despite the fact that we're clearly worlds apart,
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after all, you are a lead and I am but a humble peasant.
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And we both grew up in different parts of the country and had
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like not hugely dissimilar childhoods.
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But we one thing that we do share is the experience of going
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into HMV, into the world cinema section, going past or just past
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the world similar section to the anime, and looking at covers as
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part of our like, formative memories.
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And I had the same thing where I was like, you'll have seen this
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cover because I saw this cover 100 times and for some reason
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never quite reached for it. So yeah, when it was suggested
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that I watch it, I was like, Oh yeah, I would actually like to
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see this. Who?
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Who suggested it? My boyfriend suggested it to me.
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He actually did a really cute thing when he was like, Munson,
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would you? Because he calls me by my
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surname like I'm some fancy lady.
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Would you like to go on an anime date with me?
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That was the request. And so I would have said yes to
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pretty much anything because I thought that was really cute.
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Aw, I think that's that's nice because I mean, the first anime
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I made, well, I got Molly to watch with this was obviously
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Grave of the Fireflies. Which is a classic, but is under
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no circumstances should that end be ever be anyone's first anime.
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It's deeply traumatic and it changes people.
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And I got a message half halfway through, I think you guys had
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paused for a tab and a Wii break.
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And there's I got a video of Molly in tears being like, why
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have you done this to me? Yeah, she wasn't happy with
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this. Yeah.
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She still watched it though. Yeah, she did.
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She made it all the way through. Yeah, which I'm surprised at.
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And what did you watch it on? What device did you guys watch
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it on? So we watched it in bed and, and
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I've got a projector in the bedroom and projected onto the
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ceiling. So it was quite, quite wide
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screen as well. No matter where you looked, no
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matter where you looked, you actually you were like his mom
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in it. The haunting The haunting image
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of more orphans. Yeah.
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But yeah, so that was that was Origin Spirits of the past.
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And then the wonderful boyfriend reached behind him into the
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cupboard and whipped out the actual DVD of this.
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And I was like, Oh my God, I remember.
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So I was like, the whole thing was incredibly cute and
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nostalgic. And then after I'd watched it, I
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really wanted to see what you thought as well because there
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were some bits of it that I thought, oh, Chris will really
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like this. So, yeah.
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So that's why we're watching this week.
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Origins. Spirits of the Past.
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How would you describe this film?
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What's this? What's the story?
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I. Am so quite like a post
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apocalyptic film and this is in a post apocalyptic feature where
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a plant has destroyed the world and there's a very delicate
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imbalance between the survivors of the plants right in the world
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and the forest and the our main character Agito, he is kind of
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in the in between because there is like a bunch of humans that
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are like a bit more militaristic and technology driven.
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They're in one camp and then there's a forest in the other
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camp, which is this druids on that side, but you don't see
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much of them. And it's kind of like it's
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talked about the imbalance between that and how there's a
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relationship between them, all that kind of stuff.
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And then there was a girl from the past who was being woken
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from cry or sleep in a weird device and she, Yep, Tula, she
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just wants to go home again because she's just woke up in
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this post public world, realized there's no TV, there's there's
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no hot chocolate or anything, you know, that kind of thing.
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She doesn't, but I just. I would think that anyway.
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No monster. I was going to say, what in this
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world where you wake up and there's a forest and scrap,
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basically, yeah. What's the thing that you miss
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the most that isn't incident? Because obviously that would be
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the immediate concern. No, no, even before insulin I
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would say cigarettes and white monster.
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Would you miss White Monster over Greg's?
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Yeah, yeah, I would. Yeah, I don't have Greggs for
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breakfast. You do sometimes, actually.
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It's just you have it with a kind of monster.
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Yeah, it's not complete without a kind of white monster.
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Speaking of which. I think if you cut you, you
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would bleed that horrible luminescent colour that monster
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is inside the can. I see White white monster is
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different. It's pure.
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It's it's, it's like a, it's like a lemonade color.
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Oh, is it? Yeah, it's not like the weird we
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color that the green monster is. Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. Because I always thought that
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that's why they put it in a can of bottle, no?
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Just is it you that shared that picture of the the rat in the
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can of Monster the other day was that?
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Too. No, that was that was too many
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in our Discord. Yeah, and it was truly
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horrifying. That pitch has been going around
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for a long time. They did the same with Coke as
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well. And see, I don't drink Coke
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Cola, I drink Pepsi Max. And I've I've drank lumps from
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the bottom of a Pepsi Max car by accident.
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No, you haven't. I have because Molly.
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Molly messaged them as well-being.
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Like can you explain why my boyfriend just drank a lumpy
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Pepsi Max They never got back to her.
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Can you explain why my boyfriend just drank lamps?
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My lamps. My lamps.
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Oh, sorry, yeah, origins. So yeah, post pocket world's.
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Balance. And this last called Tula is not
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the first person that's been woken woken up by cryo from cryo
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sleep. There's also another past person
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called. What's he called?
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Kane. Kane, Right?
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Kane, Yeah, fair enough. And he is.
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Woke up previously, been in the same in between the village and
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thought actually I've got more of a chance of making the world
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like it was in the past if I go with the military side as
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opposed to the forest who just want everyone to be green and
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harmonious for nature so. You have like 2 tribes of people
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in this film. There's the like the the the
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people who are right live right on the edge or like in the kind
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of like sort of mountain top town right beside the forest who
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act as a kind of buffer zone between humanity and the forest
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and have a kind of alliance with the druids.
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And then you have the military based nation who are very much
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at war with the forest. And then you get the people that
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are different as well, which are the silver haired people who
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have been granted the power of the forest where they've got
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superhuman strength, loads of stamina, but in if they go too
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far with that power, they become one with the forest and tenant
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with tree. Yeah, or a big.
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And how and how cool is the old guy?
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So there's lots of different characters.
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You have like the leader of the kind of people on the edge of
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the forest who's this like old lady who has white hair.
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So everyone with white hair has this like forest power.
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You have Agito's father, who is in the like at the beginning of
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the film, you, you, he's like very ill.
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And you get the sense that Agito is looking after him and making
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sure that he's OK. And then you also have like
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another guy who just seems to be like roaming around in a long
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black trench coat. And then at one point he rips it
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off. He's like really buff old guy
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who just then becomes like, he's like punching missiles out of
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the sky and shit. He's so cool.
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He's by far the coolest character, but I can't remember
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if his name, if he's a Gashi, or if he's Doctor Sackle.
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No, Doctor Sackle's the guy. The two.
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The father isn't him. Yeah, yeah, he he is the one
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who? Oh, is it Beirut?
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No, I remember the name of the old guy.
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Was it a gashi? Yeah, it's a gashi.
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Yeah, yeah, he's so cool. He's by father, called his
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character. I wanted to see more of him.
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Yeah, I'll just put the and what was I saying again?
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Oh yeah. And the doctor like hackers.
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No, what's he called him? Yeah.
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And yeah, he, he created that plant and it got to got a bit
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mental, so they took it to the moon.
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He created the plant in a lab on the moon.
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And then what you find out is that it's OK who's trying to
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destroy the forest. And basically you discover he's
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like trying to destroy the forest by essentially destroying
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all life. So it's very much a nuclear,
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nuclear option. And what you discover is that he
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actually messed with the safety protocols of the experiment that
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was growing this plant to and made it like uncontrollable
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essentially. And at the beginning it has some
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crazy beautiful shots and scenes in this like so the background
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arts gorgeous. It's got some really cool stuff
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in like the towns where you've got like all this like it's like
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old broken down city that's then been repurposed into like a new
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city but like which is kind of but like all it's all hobbled
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together and like scrappers junkyard of a town.
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Yeah, yeah. You see like, like blocks of
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flats that have half collapsed and people have turned them into
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like a, like a well for bringing buckets up because it's got the
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heights. So they have like a like a
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pulley system bringing buckets up all the time because that's
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their currency, because what's scarce and opposed to pocket
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world water. So it's the most fun.
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The forest also controls the water as well, so it's absorbed
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a lot of the water and the only. And that's why they're kind of
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like at odds with the forest. So there's only so much water
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that gets released to the people.
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So they have to like, bring water from the edge of the
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forest up. Yeah.
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And it's guarded by those weird druid people, isn't?
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It. Yeah, I would say so, yeah.
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Yeah, but then you also have it right at the beginning, I think
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one of the coolest opening sequences, secondary maybe only
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to ghost in the shell, which is the plant in the form of a
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mighty dragon hatching or it always looks like it's hatching
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from inside the moon. But you did, you know, you later
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discover that because it's this experiment gone wrong, it breaks
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apart the moon and flying down to Earth while trying to be
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destroyed by like all of the military on.
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Earth. Before it lands and creates this
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this ecological crisis for humanity.
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So cool. And it's got a very, very cool
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opening soundtrack, I think. Yes.
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So that song is, it's got Japanese name, which I don't
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know what it is, but it means harmony.
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Anyway, that's what the song is called and I don't know the way
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I watch this and I watch it on YouTube.
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I don't have the actual DVD copy and I think I sent you the link
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as well. And it's had the Toon Army
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Cartoon Network intro on it, so it showed you all of it.
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It was amazing, like proper understanding.
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Like Ed, Eddie and Eddie. And yeah, and afterwards, after
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the credits as well, but it had the subtitles with it as well.
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And it had them in English. And but I had the English words
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in English and it was saying numbers.
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And apparently I tried looking this up just before and I think
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I was half right, but it's got, it says a bunch of numbers like
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3/15/25 and all this sort of stuff.
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And they correspond to letters. And if you put them the letters
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together in the Western alphabet, it spells the Japanese
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word for harmony or something like that.
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I might be wrong on that and I went kind of like 1/2 rabbit
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hole thing and oh is that true and a half googled it and half
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like tried it but as far as I know it's true.
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Still quotes on everything. I like it.
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I'll take that. I want that to be true, yeah.
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Me too be a cool factor. It was.
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It is a cool. Let's say it's.
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Let's figure it out, and then if it's not true, I'm sure you'll
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put a correction in. Yeah, I would.
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If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. It's only my facts that you're
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correct. Your own fact should keep as is.
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Yep, on Fact Check yourself. I have confidence.
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I don't want to undermine confidence.
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Yeah, yeah. But no, it is.
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So it's got like quite a good, I think it's got quite a good
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soundtrack all the way through and.
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It's amazing. The animation itself is really
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good, kind of a bit reminiscent of like some some Studio Ghibli
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kind of energy, a little bit Manga Studios Y.
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So like. But I think like it was released
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what in the 2000? 2006, yeah. 2006, yeah.
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So I thought the background design, the difference between
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the the military place, which is I've found it before Ragnar is
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the city of the technology war people difference between that
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and the forest in the backgrounds in the design and
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the ruined cities and everything looks absolutely amazing.
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The chase scenes, the even the fight in it brilliant.
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The animated. I just think the story let's it
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down. So you said one of the things.
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So I looked up the kind of opening reviews that this got at
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the time, and you're pretty much, you've nailed the
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criticism, the common criticism that a lot of the kind of
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Japanese anime reviewers had at the time, which is that it's
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really beautiful. The soundtrack's amazing, the
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animation quality is really good, and it's the characters
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that lack something. They also really praise the
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world building, which I think is true.
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And one of the things that we were saying before is like,
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wouldn't it be great if they've just done more with it?
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Like, wouldn't it be great if they've just got a bit more in
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depth, if they're just kind of dug into the world a bit more
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and it hadn't felt like quite so rushed?
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Well, yeah, that's what I was thinking.
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I mean, I'm not expecting a three hour film out with this,
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but it I think it could be longer and it could have been.
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So me watching it, I wanted more of a connection to the the
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forest and to understand the true people and why this world
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is functioning as it is at the minute.
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And I wanted to see the other perspective as opposed to Kane,
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who just said I want it back to the way it was before.
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I want him to say why his life at the minute in Ragnar is crap
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is why he feels so hard. Don't do that.
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He has to go back. I know in that he kind of
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mentions on the guilt that he feels for unleashing this
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experiment onto the world. But like, people are happy here
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and is the dad said the tree dad, he was just like, look, I
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know your view. This world is it's probably
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really primitive to you, but it's all we know.
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And we're happy. We've got a happy existence.
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We're surviving with. We're not thriving just yet, but
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we're getting there. And so bear that in mind when
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you when you look upon the village.
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And I think, yeah, I get that. But I wanted a bit more of it,
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bit more development in the the characters that even the main
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the main character Agito I could.
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Do. I don't like what's what besides
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stopping the end of the world. What's his stake in this like?
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I mean, that's a pretty good stake I think for.
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Like I know, but. But I think his other stake is
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that he wants to rescue the girl that he's decided he's in love
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with after seeing her once but seeing her naked.
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Once for what's 2 minutes you busy spends the night at his
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family's house and then she she goes off because she realizes
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that someone else like him. She doesn't stay the night at
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his family's house because she only goes to his family house
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later when she meets his father. So that like this is a big
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spoiler bit because I think one of the best bits of this film is
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when they go, they do kind of dive more into the world itself
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and the relationship between man and forest and the kind of the
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push and pull of it. And what you find out is that
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the people with the white hair, there's a price that comes with
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the power that they borrow from the forest.
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And that price is that they over time become the forest.
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So like Agito's father, like the disease that you find out he's
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got is that he's actually becoming a.
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Like a just a full blown tree and Aggie toes like guarding him
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from the sun so that he doesn't grow quickly and like making
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sure he stays watered and all sorts of things.
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But I think it's tough for me that that was one of the moments
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where I was like, oh, this film's this film's really good.
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Like I love an old tree man. Like, that feels like something
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that does feel like there's something that matters there.
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Like, you know, Agito's relationship to his dad, the
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fact that he ends up following his father's footsteps.
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Even though he witnesses his father's end, he still like
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takes up the mantle of like this forest power, knowing the price
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that he's going to have to pay in order to save save the girl,
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save the world and like, and I think those bits are really
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cool. But I think you're right.
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There's like a once they get to Ragnar.
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So she Tudor decides that she's going to go to Ragnar, which I
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can't really blame her. If you if you woke up, if you
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went to bed this evening and woke up in a world with no
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indoor plumbing, no electricity, going to the place with the most
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technology would be incredibly tempting.
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Like, it feels like a sensible decision for her to make.
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It feels natural. Yeah.
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I mean, all the warships and stuff would probably make me
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think twice, but, you know, it is what it is.
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And then from that point, the film, I think the pacing gets a
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bit wonky and it starts to feel quite rushed because then you
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stop learning more about the characters and it just becomes
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about what the characters are doing.
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Whereas up until then, it's quite, you have these kind of
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slower more bits. And I do wonder if maybe this is
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a film ripe for ATV series where you could like, get to know,
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like, I want to know. Yeah.
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Like you mentioned the druids. The druids are cool as hell,
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like hat like, and at the beginning the boys get in
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trouble for like going down to where the water is and like
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stealing water basically. But the, you know, the druids
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don't seem like they're going to punish the boys.
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It just seems like a kind of like slap on the wrist kind of
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approach to it. So there's like, what's the
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relationship between the druids and everyone else?
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And. Yeah, I mean, I mean, even I
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noticed with Kane as well. Have you noticed what all of the
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the bracelets he's got in his arm?
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Yeah, they're all the necklace, the control necklaces from.
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So like, where are those people? He's been collecting them.
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Like that's another great question.
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Also, he's got this badass like right hand woman Lieutenant
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who's like this hench muscle Mama who's super badass and you
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see her hardly at all. Like wouldn't it have been cool
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to get a really great fight scene with her for like, I think
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you see her briefly fight Agito or someone and then you see her
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commanding troops at the end. Yeah, and that's it, like.
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Not enough. That's like it.
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It's not enough. So there are some characters in
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this that aren't served well. I think also, he's very quick
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to, like, discard his friend and hang out with a New Girl.
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I mean, we've all got a buddy like that who's like, oh, I'm in
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love now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I'm so distracted. I've got myself an anime date.
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I don't have time to do this live anymore anyway.
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That is not fair. The reason we can't do it live
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because we don't have enough subscribers.
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And at the moment we can't even go live.
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So we are having to pre record, which obviously puts a huge
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Father of a small child LED of his own island.
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together. High points, low points for you.
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So we've got like animation, great story, not so much.
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Did you have any favorite characters?
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So I think Agateur, Agateur, he's very bland.
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The the the main, the main villain.
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And Kane, I think he's very blonde.
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OK, Tula, I think she's very blonde.
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So quite bland. Do you know genuinely who my
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favorite guy is? Tree Man?
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Because I'm like, he had something interesting about.
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I do think it was funny. I also, as everyone knows, Chris
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and I send each other messages when we are watching these
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things together through the week.
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Do you think I was going to see the stone?
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For a minute I thought you were going to say this thing and I
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got 3 messages from Chris during this film.
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The 1st is did I just see a guy have a like a stone shoved up
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his butt? I like didn't couldn't remember
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so he clipped it and sent it to me.
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And there is a bit where he like falls on a stone and there's
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like a very comical like chase at the beginning of the film.
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Right up the hoop. This and the second video I got
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was your dad's a tree, your dad's a tree.
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Yeah. And then the third one is
26:14
towards the end where for some reason the translation is we're
26:17
shutting down Islam. Slightly weird.
26:20
We're not sure. I'm not sure what that's about.
26:24
I think I can't remember what it's called, but do you know
26:27
what the emergency program is that's that's meant to destroy
26:31
the world to bring it in you? It's an it's a it's a bunch of
26:34
letters put together S scam or something like that.
26:37
So. It's to herd the.
26:40
And it was YouTube automatic subtitles.
26:43
So I've I've knew I've I always watch YouTube with subtitles on
26:50
because it I don't know what helps us here better.
26:54
Which is fine, but it never gets it right, especially if
26:57
someone's got an accent. Yeah, also, have you noticed how
27:01
it never gets our names right? And no, I don't think I've
27:10
really watched these back on YouTube.
27:13
Probably because you're editing them.
27:15
I watch them back. Yeah.
27:16
Because I don't get to. It's our because I want to see
27:18
what you've edited and how you've done me dirty.
27:21
Yeah, I might just put a random like fart noise in it somewhere,
27:26
no? Why not?
27:27
Funsie. Why not funsies?
27:29
Just for fun find the fart new game.
27:33
So yeah. So would you recommend how many?
27:36
How many drops of water out of a tree would you give this 5 is.
27:41
A kind of scale is that. 5 is a full tree, 1 is a teeny tiny
27:46
sapling. M just below mid, I would say
27:51
two 2 1/2. Oh really?
27:54
That low? Yeah, because I think.
27:57
That's. So fair.
27:59
So I'm I'm thinking if, if I'm recommending this, I could
28:02
recommend so many better things than this, but I'm not saying
28:07
this is bad. I think it's good.
28:09
I was entertained. I do genuinely love the
28:11
animation, the the music, the score of it as well.
28:16
Not even just the yeah and in at the start of it, the AMV thing
28:21
that was on and the world as well is amazing.
28:26
And on paper I think the story could be amazing, but it kind of
28:30
just it needs that little bit more to be amazing for me.
28:36
Want to be above a three? You want a character that you
28:39
can match into that isn't a tree.
28:42
That has a bit of personality, as I was saying, I know I'm
28:45
going to. He's trying to stop the end of
28:47
the world, but he didn't know the world was ended until the
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other end. He's not just trying to stop the
28:53
end of the world, he's also trying to help Tula.
28:56
He said 3 words to her like. Naked Chris.
29:02
He didn't. She was wearing a hospital girl.
29:06
There was. There was barely a nip.
29:10
I think they just didn't draw the nipples, but I think she's
29:12
full blown naked, isn't she? Is she?
29:15
I think so. We'll have to watch it back.
29:18
The weird little druid people like the weird little tree
29:21
people who appear in the. Forest as well, yeah.
29:24
We didn't even talk about that weirdness, but I also love that
29:28
as well when they like when he goes into the forest to get his
29:31
power. Yeah, yeah.
29:33
Which was? The creepy tree twins.
29:36
That was very sudden as well and the way you would talk about the
29:39
power as well, where it eventually turns you into a tree
29:42
because it overcomes you. I did.
29:44
I thought, I didn't think it was that.
29:46
I thought while I was watching this it was if you overuse the
29:50
power then it takes over here because the old woman was just
29:54
like talking about Oh yes, you need to learn to calm yourself
29:58
and pitch your hand as a normal hand and then you can return
30:03
back to normal. So it destroys.
30:06
So if you don't stay calm, it destroys you like it kills you.
30:11
So that that's the emotional thing.
30:13
But eventually what they're saying, and because it's because
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his dad used it more than anyone else who used their tree power,
30:19
the more you use it, the more of a tree you become.
30:22
Because he used the power to collect build the town,
30:26
essentially. Yeah.
30:30
I thought it was. I thought it was cool.
30:31
I would give this a solid 4. Like I don't think it's like the
30:36
perfect film by any stretch of the means what it is, but I
30:40
think it's like it's high quality enough that I think it
30:43
deserves A4. I'd like to see different
30:45
characters. I'd like to see a bit more of
30:48
the characters, but that's because I'm enjoying the film
30:51
while I'm watching it. And also, how did Tula end up in
30:54
that cryopod and how did Kane end up in there?
30:58
Well, Tula gets put in there by her father and Kane goes in
31:03
there because he's one of the scientists who works so on the
31:07
moon, on the moon. So he's the he is the scientist
31:11
who who released the tree. So, and what the scientist say,
31:17
what Doctor Sackler decides is that he's going to put P like so
31:25
all like all of the people who go into the stasis pods are but
31:32
the people who might be able to save the earth and, and, and his
31:38
daughter because he loves his daughter, but that's why.
31:40
And his daughter is the only one who can access the controls
31:44
because she's got the same DNA as him.
31:48
Right. So he and because when she
31:54
because when she first wakes up, she's like, no, don't put like
31:57
she's like don't leave me. And it's because her father has
32:00
put her in the stasis pod and left her.
32:03
To go and genuinely can't remember that part.
32:07
Yeah. Can't remember because that was
32:11
a question I had Afterwards I was like so how does he get from
32:15
the moon to the earth? So I'm guessing that you went up
32:17
the escape pod and just crashed there?
32:21
Yeah, and I think he sees like ships coming down to like racing
32:26
the the the forest down or trying to like shoot them down
32:29
and stuff. So I miss always assumed he was
32:31
in one of those. And also that because the the
32:36
big, the big final plan to reset the world and kill everything so
32:41
it can start on you is basically a moving might mountain with
32:45
spider legs or moving volcano with spider spider legs.
32:49
And did he make that before or after the plant got loose?
32:54
I assume he made it before because it feels like a control
32:57
tower or like a villain base for all of his experiments.
33:04
But also my lovely and very logical boyfriend did point out
33:12
how is that volcano moving? That's not how volcanoes work.
33:16
Like the fact that it's got lava in it, but it's also walking.
33:20
Although it did make us both want to watch the Wild Wild West
33:23
film again. That's what I thought, yeah.
33:26
The Spider. Because it does have it does
33:28
have elements of like cyberpunky steam punky energy in it this
33:32
film and that's also quite fun. Although the giant robots that
33:36
are fighting at the end, they could be better.
33:38
It doesn't have the best giant robot battles that I've ever
33:41
seen, and this is what I think stops it from being a 5.
33:45
It's a really good film. I can think of three other films
33:49
that do stuff that this film does slightly better.
33:53
So if you like one of them is Norsica Valley of the Wind.
33:56
If you want like a humans at war with a forest and trying to like
34:00
find peace only to discover that the forest is on the human side
34:04
and trying to correct a mistake the humans have made, that's
34:07
Norsica Valley of the Wind. If you want giant robots, Gundam
34:11
Wing. Endless Waltz and if you want
34:16
weird nature druidy stuff with and people with magic powers and
34:22
white hair, Mushishi. See, I was going to say
34:28
Mononoke. Also Princess Mononoke.
34:32
Yeah, talk about two 2 tribes, one living at peace with the
34:35
world, one at war with nature. So like, it's a really solid
34:41
film. There are other anime films that
34:43
maybe do what it does better, but I don't think that detracts
34:46
from the fact that I would definitely and have recommended
34:48
this film since I watched it to other people.
34:51
Yeah, to me. Yeah, to you and to a bunch of
34:56
other people who I'm hoping also enjoy it.
35:01
Sure, it reminded me of when I was watching it as well.
35:04
What Steamboy? There is a touch of the Steam
35:09
Boy to it. I think it's the, the really
35:12
detailed background and it's, I don't know, I don't know what it
35:17
is about it. It just feels like a kind of
35:22
Sunday afternoon kind of watch. Do you know what other films
35:28
came out? So this is this is not films but
35:30
series, other animes that came out around this time. 2000 and
35:37
six, 2006. Let's play a little game before
35:41
we pick next week's anime. Shippuden no.
35:48
Full Metal Alchemist? No.
35:55
OK, you get after you have to tell us, I think.
35:59
So code geese. Right.
36:02
Absolution of the rebellion definite it came out 2006 Black
36:09
Lagoon Talk about giant robots fighting fate stay night Helsing
36:14
ultimate. Right.
36:17
The Girl Who Leapt Through Time, which is a weirdly good film.
36:21
That's a good film. Second King Crete Paprika done
36:27
both of those on Anime Club Crayon Shinchan, right?
36:33
I didn't know there was a Shin Chan film until right now.
36:36
That's going on our list for future, yeah.
36:39
I mean, Shin Chan's been around for longer than me.
36:43
Do you know what, Shin Chan? It's not always the the.
36:47
I mean, sometimes it's a bit weird because the grandpa's so
36:50
pervy and Shin Chan's kind of weirdly pervy.
36:53
But yeah, if putting that aside, Shin Chan, what a shout.
36:58
We had squiggly line animation. Yeah, Digimon Savers and Naruto
37:04
the movie Guardians of the Crescent Moon Kingdom.
37:07
Can we do? Digimon at some point.
37:09
Yeah, we can do Digimon at some point.
37:12
I've also been recommended a Korean anime that looks good
37:15
called 7 Scissors or something so we can watch that too.
37:22
Right. We'll add stuff to the list, but
37:27
with that, with that being said, what do you want to do next
37:30
week? Because it's it's my choice,
37:32
isn't it? It's your choice.
37:35
It's my choice. My choice.
37:36
Well, I've obviously I've already told you what it is
37:39
before this. Yeah, of course, but.
37:40
I'm just lining you up and I'm really excited.
37:44
So I decided on bleach next next week that that was the reason.
37:55
Why no One of the best. ITunes.
38:01
Of all anime time. The other day and one of the
38:06
other episodes, we'll talk about the golden age of of openings.
38:09
And you said that and I said, Oh yeah, Bleach.
38:12
I haven't, I haven't seen or thought about that in so long.
38:18
Because then it wasn't 1000 Blood War or something came out
38:22
the other year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it did.
38:26
Because I just, I just remember loads of people buzzing about
38:29
Kenpachi and he's bankai. I'm like, oh, that dude, I love
38:37
him. He's the he's the best
38:39
character. He's But then I love the weird
38:42
like lone wolf hard nut. But he's also a weird lone wolf
38:47
hard nut who somehow has acquired a tiny pink psychopath
38:50
sidekick because she's quiet. Yeah, she's acquired him.
38:56
You're right. The the thing I love about
38:59
Bleach is that it's like, it's got so many good characters in
39:03
it. It's a proper ensemble anime.
39:06
And every single one of the like, what are they called?
39:12
The different teams in the Soul Society like have like a very
39:18
unique captain and Lieutenant and there's like a story behind
39:22
how they came to like be in charge and.
39:24
Yes, yes. And I can't wait and I will
39:27
also. Are we allowed to reveal sunny
39:30
con choice like choices or are we keeping those secret for
39:33
close to the time? You can see whatever you want
39:35
and just just know this. I'm never going to tell you what
39:38
Lee's cosplaying us. This is unfair because usually
39:45
Chris is super loose lip sync ships like you can't trust him
39:50
with a secret, but for some reason this is just the hill
39:53
that you've decided to die on. Because I know it's going to be
39:56
better that you don't know. Yeah, OK.
40:01
When he comes to stepping out the crowd.
40:03
Sorry, I didn't mean to say that.
40:05
No, it's not. Hitler, Hitler from Dragon, the
40:10
Dragon Ball film. So I will be picking a
40:16
character. I'm, I'll tell you this, I will
40:18
be picking a character from Bleach to cosplayers at
40:21
Sunnycon. Bleach being one of my all time
40:24
favorite animes. And go and check out our
40:30
Instagram closer to the time for pictures of both Chris and I.
40:34
You can find out in June and we might be dropping hints in the
40:38
lead up to it as well. Just post it back.
40:43
Oh have you full on just go check out Anime Club.
40:46
Not on that I've posted on the discord.
40:48
Oh, have you? Yeah.
40:49
Fair. Yeah, because Chris is.
40:51
Chris's cosplay, I can safely say is going to be one of the
40:54
best things I've ever seen. It looks so far, when you've
40:58
done like little tests of it, it looks amazing.
41:02
Hopefully, fingers crossed. Sonicons always a very high St.
41:07
James's Park, which is a place where I tell it's always like a
41:09
greenhouse because it's glass walled.
41:11
Yeah. So the less clothes the better.
41:13
And I'm wearing many clothes, yeah.
41:16
You're wearing many clothes and like stuff on your face.
41:20
I've also got a potentially 2 wigs, like 2-1 wig stacked on
41:25
top of another wig. It's going to, we're going to be
41:29
sweating our asses off. And it's also in June, in like
41:32
the middle of the summer, which for some reason, like last year
41:37
was so hot and I was walking around in like shorts and a vest
41:40
top. It it is every silly con.
41:43
It's horrible. Oh yeah.
41:45
I've just realized for us, we can, we can talk about the, the
41:49
music of bleach wets, the the rock opera thing.
41:52
Do you know what I mean? Like.
41:53
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Ah, that.
41:58
Yeah. And every time they, every time.
42:00
They level up. There's and there's one where
42:04
they're like literally translate it and do it in English and
42:07
they're like fine. A chicken or something like that
42:10
is so funny. Yeah, I thought it was weird
42:15
when I first heard it and it's grown on is like mad.
42:19
Oh, it's like, it is weird and it's really jarring the first
42:23
time you hear it because you're like, this is terrible.
42:25
Oh, that's it. You kind of find the big
42:28
attraction. Yeah.
42:30
The action. It's so good.
42:35
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I can't wait.
42:39
I'm excited. It'll be good.
42:40
So TuneIn next week and then the week after, we're going to be
42:43
digging into the archives and pulling out.
42:46
And we're allowed to talk about that now because, I mean, we've
42:48
kind of already planned it. The week after, we're going to
42:51
be digging into the archives and pulling out the vending machine
42:55
anime. That surprised both Chris and I
42:57
because after that we're going to be watching Season 2 because
43:02
you revealed last week that it is out and I'm very excited and
43:08
it's been out for like a year. And they've also got Season 3
43:11
has just started as well. So we've got some catching up to
43:13
do, Buddies. Yeah, I mean, I mean, it gives
43:15
us a chance to watch the full series and not do and not just
43:19
do the three episodes because we're like it.
43:21
Exactly. We should do that with Kaiju #8
43:24
as well at some point because I still haven't seen that season
43:26
2. Have you not?
43:29
And it starts with, you know, you're Hashino, the guy with the
43:32
double swords. Yeah.
43:33
You really like, it starts with like a Hashino's Day Out where
43:38
they're like like honestly Chris, you're going to love the
43:40
first episode of Season 2. It's really fun.
43:43
See, I really want to watch it, right?
43:45
But at the minute I've, I've just watched like six, nearly
43:50
600 episodes of One Piece. And I'm like, that's all I can
43:54
watch at the minute because I'm doing a series of well behind
43:57
and recording it, but while still doing it.
43:59
And it's just like, I'm up to like the Fishman Island one at
44:03
the minute. And I'm like, Oh yeah, I've
44:05
watched Lords how far my way through.
44:07
And they say, oh, nearly 1/3 of the way there.
44:09
Don't worry. 1/3 of the way through the whole anime, or the
44:14
third of the way through this particular arc?
44:16
Because it could. No, no, the whole, a whole lot
44:19
of way. I mean, I'm still loving it, but
44:22
it's it's a commitment. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
44:29
I mean, I'm surprised you're still sticking with it to be
44:31
honest, because I would have thought that you guys would have
44:37
your attention spans and all that.
44:38
The will will of the day in it. Oh, want to rephrase that?
44:51
Fair enough. And on that note, thank you so
44:53
much for joining us. We'll catch you next week when
44:56
we will be doing bleach. Bye bye.