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Michael Chandler · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: Take a little bit longer than I thought. You have
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  Speaker 1: to keep moving from setback to setback without losing the
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  Speaker 1: enthusiasm fail your way to the top.
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  Speaker 2: Like you go through so many setbacks to end up
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  Speaker 2: see you at the top getting to the top, Like
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  Speaker 2: it's not just some escalator that takes you up there.
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  Speaker 1: Old Michael, focus so much on being perfect once I
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  Speaker 1: got to a certain point, once I won that first
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  Speaker 1: world title, and truthfully, it says so much more about
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  Speaker 1: how you conduct yourself after a loss, that this is
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  Speaker 1: part of the journey and when you do win the belt,
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  Speaker 1: when the belt does come on the belt for the
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  Speaker 1: Boys with the Boys, it's gonna be even better. All right,
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  Speaker 1: we rolling do we need a clap? Yeah? I round
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  Speaker 1: of applause for the boys, just.
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  Speaker 2: All the boys out there watching and listening. This episode
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  Speaker 2: specifically the Chevy Soverado.
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  Speaker 1: How much do you love Chevy? Mike who rock? Is
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  Speaker 1: What I'm saying. It's not the other one. It's not
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  Speaker 1: Listen, there's a there's a pallethro of them out there
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  Speaker 2: Heart Edition? The Chevy Silverado? That thing I almost cursed.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad I caught myself because they don't want it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking inside and are we able to bring up
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  Speaker 2: a photo?
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  Speaker 1: Hey?
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  Speaker 2: While we're bringing this photo towing moving day, Hey boys,
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  Speaker 2: hey help me out, might bring up Hey bring up
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  Speaker 1: American maid. Yes, that's all that's helping out. Your family
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  Speaker 1: and friends.
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  Speaker 2: Go to a dealership near you, tell them the boys
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  Speaker 2: sent you, and support your local Chevy dealership. Boys we
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  Speaker 2: have on Mike Chandler. We will get into all of
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  Speaker 2: the fun stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I was.
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  Speaker 2: Pleasantly surprised that you still wanted to come on and
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  Speaker 2: do the podcast. I didn't like count you out of
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  Speaker 2: not coming and doing the pod. Uh, just because when
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  Speaker 2: I was reaching out to you, I'm just like, you
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  Speaker 2: know number one, I was telling Garrett on the way
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  Speaker 2: over here, just like how much of like a pro
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  Speaker 2: and just your how high your emotional intelligence is in
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  Speaker 2: the first place. So like when something like that happens,
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  Speaker 2: like obviously people want to find stuff, like your corner
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  Speaker 2: wants to find things to tell you. That's gonna let
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  Speaker 2: you because everybody wants to be there for you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because they feel like they experienced the loss with you.
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  Speaker 1: Yea. And so when I'm texting you is like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this dude knows like he knows the game. How long
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  Speaker 1: have you been fighting? Be thirteen years? In August. That's
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: Like you've been in the fight game so long, it's
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  Speaker 2: like it just seems like such a like the biggest
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  Speaker 2: moment because it's happening right now and it's the UFC
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  Speaker 2: two sixty two, Like it seems so huge because it's
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  Speaker 2: you know, obviously I know all of us we're tuned
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  Speaker 2: in watching. Like again I was telling Cody, because we're
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  Speaker 2: all fired up at the house watching and we're moving.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like when Cody used to wrestle, like being
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  Speaker 2: on the mat watching him wrestling, and then when it happens,
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  Speaker 2: you're just kind of like it just takes the energy
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  Speaker 2: out and you just the moment seems so huge and
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  Speaker 2: that at that point in time. But it's like you've
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  Speaker 2: been in the fight game so long, you you like,
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  Speaker 2: this is this is.
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  Speaker 1: Like part of the journey. Yeah, it is, and I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing. And this is why I
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  Speaker 1: so to give a little bit of background. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we already planned this to be here. You know, we
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  Speaker 1: did have the boat the belt on ye he said,
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  Speaker 1: the belt is coming to the bus and that's fucking sick.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, you sent me a nice text you know,
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  Speaker 1: like keep your head up type of deal. And then
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  Speaker 1: you followed back up and then I said, hey, just
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  Speaker 1: so you know, like I'll see you on the bus.
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  Speaker 1: And we were like, you know, I'm not quite sure,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Okay, Yeah, if you're down with it, let's
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  Speaker 1: let's go. But you don't have to feel me out
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  Speaker 1: like that. The seat was open because I was like, hey, man,
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  Speaker 1: thinking about you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and said something else and you're like, yo, can
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  Speaker 2: I still come on the bus at one pm?
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  Speaker 1: I was like, you're goddamn right, like we got to
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  Speaker 1: see warm for you. Well, and that's I mean. And
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  Speaker 1: that's the thing, man, the old the old me would
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  Speaker 1: have you know. I kind of give a talk now
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  Speaker 1: about because I lost three fights in a row six
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  Speaker 1: hundred and eighty eight days. I went without winning a
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  Speaker 1: fight back a couple of years ago. And I made
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  Speaker 1: three mistakes, and the number one, the first mistake I
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  Speaker 1: made was I wanted to hide from the loss. Media
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  Speaker 1: was calling me. I was up for five of the year.
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  Speaker 1: They wanted me to present an award at the World
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  Speaker 1: MMA Awards. Hey, come present this award. I didn't take
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  Speaker 1: anybody's phone calls, anybody's text messages, anybody's emails. I was
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  Speaker 1: off social media because I was just embarrassed, ashamed. I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to hide. But man, this is where the growth happens.
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  Speaker 1: That happens, the growth happens in these moments where I
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  Speaker 1: can sit next to you. I mean a guy who's lost.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you're an athlete. Everyone in here. It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: matter if you're an athlete, if you're a non athlete.
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  Speaker 1: We all suffer loss, we all suffer setbacks. We all
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  Speaker 1: make promises that we want to make good on. Like
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to bring that belt home, Like me and
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  Speaker 1: my son prayed for Daddy's belt every single night for
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  Speaker 1: the last two months, the last eight weeks, we prayed
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  Speaker 1: every single night about Daddy's belt and why Daddy is gone,
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  Speaker 1: Why Daddy has to be in Florida, has to be working,
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  Speaker 1: has to be training, has to be away from his son,
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  Speaker 1: away from his fatherly duties, away from the promise that
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  Speaker 1: I made to him. So I wanted to make good
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  Speaker 1: on that promise. But the belt is just the piece
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  Speaker 1: of the twelve pounds of leather and gold that signifies
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  Speaker 1: being a world champion. But in order to be a
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  Speaker 1: champion in life, you have to keep moving from setback
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  Speaker 1: to setback without losing the enthusiasm, without losing this steam,
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  Speaker 1: with complete disregard to my previous failures, my previous setbacks,
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  Speaker 1: one that just happened forty eight hours ago. I still
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  Speaker 1: got the black guy to prove it. You know, that
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  Speaker 1: was a million you know, millions of people saw it.
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  Speaker 1: And there's I'm sure there's a lot of people saying
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things about me, you know, eating my
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  Speaker 1: words and I wasn't that good or I wasn't you know.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm choosing not to hear those things and just
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  Speaker 1: moving forward in a positive light that this is part
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  Speaker 1: of the journey and when we do win that belt,
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  Speaker 1: when the belt does come on, the belt for the
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  Speaker 1: boys with the boys, it's going to be even better.
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  Speaker 1: So I hit the ground running this morning. I got
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  Speaker 1: a sauna session in forty minutes, just you know, discipline myself,
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  Speaker 1: Like Tommy, h no, I actually have one here. It's
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  Speaker 1: not put together. We just moved and stuff. So I
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  Speaker 1: just went to the YMCA and which is much hotter anyway.
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  Speaker 1: So I sat there for forty minutes and sweated it out,
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  Speaker 1: sweated out the sweat that was in me for that
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  Speaker 1: fight and then sweated it out. Monday morning, we hit
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  Speaker 1: the we hit the ground, run and did something for
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  Speaker 1: my body, my soul. And now here we are talking
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  Speaker 1: about it, expressing through the loss, admitting the failure, but
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  Speaker 1: not only admitting the failure, sitting here with a smile
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  Speaker 1: on my face, saying, Saturday really did end. Saturday night
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  Speaker 1: and Sunday morning a new sun rose, and Monday morning
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  Speaker 1: the sun rose again a little bit more painfully, a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more you know, a little bit more tough.
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  Speaker 1: But man, this is It's all part of life, this,
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  Speaker 1: this whole thing. And that's why people are drawn to
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  Speaker 1: mixed martial arts, is that is it's a metaphor for life.
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  Speaker 1: Like what I went through on Insat on Saturday night,
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  Speaker 1: had a really had a great first round one ten
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  Speaker 1: eight on two of the three scorecards, and then got caught,
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  Speaker 1: you know, got caught and lost, you know, and the
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  Speaker 1: other guy left with the belt that I was supposed
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  Speaker 1: to have. But yeah, this is life.
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  Speaker 2: Talk about because before we get into all the fight
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  Speaker 2: and everything like that, talk about those the next twenty
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  Speaker 2: four hours after that loss, after you you recollect your thoughts,
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  Speaker 2: you give the you give the interview with Joe Rogan, like,
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  Speaker 2: what are the next twenty four hours actually, like, like, yes,
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  Speaker 2: the sun does rise, and I think this is I
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  Speaker 2: was telling Garrett on the way over. The reason I'm uh,
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  Speaker 2: I was fired up about talking to you is because
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  Speaker 2: this is the majority of everyone's journey in life anyway,
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  Speaker 2: is failures. Most of the time, you fail your way
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  Speaker 2: to the top, Like you go through so many setbacks
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  Speaker 2: to end up see you at the top getting to
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  Speaker 2: the top, Like it's not just some escalator that takes
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  Speaker 2: you up there, Like this is.
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  Speaker 1: The majority of what life looks like is losing. Yep.
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  Speaker 2: So take us through those first twenty four hours after
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  Speaker 2: after the loss, after the press.
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  Speaker 1: Conference, you're banging your head against the mic.
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  Speaker 2: Like you can see the emotion, like it was it
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  Speaker 2: sucked watching it and you just know like fuck, man,
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  Speaker 2: take us through those those first twenty four to forty
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  Speaker 2: eight hours.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think I think the hardest thing, the hardest
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  Speaker 1: part about mixed martial arts is it is it is
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  Speaker 1: just so tumultuous. There there is always a chance that
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  Speaker 1: you can lose, even with even if you're a thousand
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  Speaker 1: to one favorite man, we're wearing four ounce gloves, these
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  Speaker 1: tiny little bitty gloves, and you have these spots on
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  Speaker 1: your body, you know, the temple, the chin, wherever it
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  Speaker 1: may be, the liver, wherever it may be, where the
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  Speaker 1: body just shuts off and says, nope, we're done and
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  Speaker 1: the fight is over. And I prepared perfectly. I left
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  Speaker 1: no stone unturned. I did every single thing that I
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  Speaker 1: possibly could. Lived my life like a champion. From the
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  Speaker 1: moment Hunter Campbell, who is number two in command at
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  Speaker 1: the UFC, and then Dana called me that that same day,
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  Speaker 1: and whenever they called me and said, hey, you're fighting
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  Speaker 1: Charles olivera May fifteenth for the UFC title. From that moment,
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  Speaker 1: I lived my life like a champion, did exactly what
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  Speaker 1: I needed to do to put myself in the best
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  Speaker 1: situation to win. So when it's over and you don't win,
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  Speaker 1: then it's then it's just you know, the kind of
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  Speaker 1: the bang in the head on the mic. I think
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  Speaker 1: it was after a reporter named Mark RIMONDI answered or
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  Speaker 1: asked me a question about something, and that's when you know,
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  Speaker 1: every now and then it just kind of hits you
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, dang man, it's over, Like it's over.
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  Speaker 1: You can't get this one back. It's not a dream.
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  Speaker 1: You're not gonna wake up and the bell's about to
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  Speaker 1: ring and you're gonna get another chance.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's exactly what we were saying. Like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna let you finish my thought too. But when you
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  Speaker 2: like lose a playoff game or something happens where it's
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  Speaker 2: just not and it was the same thing when when
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  Speaker 2: it was final that you had lost, it's like waking
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  Speaker 2: up from a dream and that bell's gonna ring again
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  Speaker 2: and you're gonna have another shot.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, because I've had those nightmares, and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: times I do have those nightmares. Two weeks before, right,
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  Speaker 1: two three weeks before before the fight, I imagine, or I
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  Speaker 1: think I wake up in a cold sweat in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of night, like I got knocked out, I got
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  Speaker 1: choked out, or I got extremely tired, I got outclassed,
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  Speaker 1: I got just got beat. And you know, that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of what it felt like when when the press conference
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  Speaker 1: is over, then it's like, Okay, now you go back
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  Speaker 1: to normal life. I knew even even after the fight
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  Speaker 1: back there it was just me and my wife. I'm
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  Speaker 1: freaking crying, my cry my eyes out. Yusada is right there.
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  Speaker 1: Almost pretty much almost us that guy out because I'm like, dude,
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  Speaker 1: give me a second to breathe. Man, like I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: pie in your cup. I'll get it.
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  Speaker 2: It's always trying to get you to take a pissed
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  Speaker 2: test right right when you got back.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, well, I I was in the I went
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  Speaker 1: back to go see the doctor and he's doing the
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  Speaker 1: lights and the eyes to check my eyes, check my balance,
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  Speaker 1: check my concussion, whatever protocols. And he's there and he's like,
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  Speaker 1: hey man, and I'm with you, Sada, you gotta pee
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  Speaker 1: in this cup. I'm like, okay, well give me a second, man,
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  Speaker 1: Like give me, give me one second. And uh so
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  Speaker 1: then he followed me back there and just me and breathe,
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  Speaker 1: and then I, you know, did the use side of thing.
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  Speaker 1: I apologize to him because I wasn't wasn't the nicest.
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  Speaker 1: Did you cuss? Maybe? Probably? I don't know, man, you
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  Speaker 1: don't cuss.
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  Speaker 2: You're pretty, you're pretty, you're pretty disciplined with the custiner.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know, man, it's and I
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  Speaker 1: think it's it's just it's that you know when it
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  Speaker 1: hits you, that it's it's over. And and that's but
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  Speaker 1: that's the thing. I I truly sit here, I truly
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  Speaker 1: sit here with zero regrets, like I did every single
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  Speaker 1: thing that I possibly could. And this is just the
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  Speaker 1: nature of life in general outside of an octagon, but
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  Speaker 1: in the octagon especially, it's just the nature of the
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  Speaker 1: business man. You you win some and you lose some,
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  Speaker 1: and unfortunately you're gonna lose often. I mean, I fought
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  Speaker 1: the number three guy in the world, guy who was
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  Speaker 1: on an eight fight winning streak, a guy who's not
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  Speaker 1: the number one guy in the world, a guy who
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's great, he's good. My next fight is
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  Speaker 1: gonna be against another guy who's top five. It was great.
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  Speaker 1: Whoever that is like, I'm you know, you're fighting in
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  Speaker 1: the upper echelon. You're going You're going to lose, and
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  Speaker 1: so I think that was that was just it. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: man if I had another shot, I would probably win
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  Speaker 1: that fight, you know. So you then you start playing
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  Speaker 1: you replaying it over and it's like, should I have
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  Speaker 1: let him up in the first round, and should or
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  Speaker 1: should I have done this? Or should I have done that?
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  Speaker 1: But when you did every single thing that you possibly
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  Speaker 1: could to put yourself in the best situation to win,
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  Speaker 1: you really can't have any regrets. And and that's the
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  Speaker 1: only thing I can ask for. If I if I
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  Speaker 1: lost that fight and I was like, gosh, dang man,
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  Speaker 1: if that weight cut wasn't so bad because I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: disciplined with my weight, or if I, you know, came
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  Speaker 1: in and I didn't and I and I knew I
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  Speaker 1: didn't really train that hard, or I didn't I slacked
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  Speaker 1: in this I slacked in the area I had no
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  Speaker 1: I had none of that because I did every single
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  Speaker 1: thing that I possibly could to win the fight, to
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  Speaker 1: get myself in the position when that cage door closed
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  Speaker 1: and that bell rang that I was going to showcase
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  Speaker 1: my skills and may the best man win. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I said. That's what I always say. I preach it
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  Speaker 1: all the time. You you got to embrace the uncertainty
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  Speaker 1: that's about to happen. And part of embracing that uncertainty
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  Speaker 1: is the fact that you may lose. Shoot, there might
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  Speaker 1: even be a fifty percent chance that you're gonna lose,
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  Speaker 1: a more than fifty percent chance that you're gonna lose
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  Speaker 1: because you're fighting the best guy in the world. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, a playoff game. You don't just fall
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  Speaker 1: to the playoffs. So you just fall into a playoff game.
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  Speaker 1: You have to be good enough to be in a
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  Speaker 1: playoff game. And then chances are you're you're playing against
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  Speaker 1: a team who is really freaking good, and you're both
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  Speaker 1: rising to the occasion. You're both rising to the occasion.
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  Speaker 1: And then made the best man win, and the better
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  Speaker 1: man won that night. I guess if you will, or
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  Speaker 1: that night he was the better man. We could fight
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  Speaker 1: ten more times and I could win ten more times.
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  Speaker 1: You never It's just part of the game. I know, man.
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  Speaker 1: And two, I didn't know it took him so long
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  Speaker 1: to get a title fight.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody had mentioned a stat that it's been eleven years since,
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  Speaker 2: like this was his first title fight, and it's been
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  Speaker 2: like eleven years for him to be in the game
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  Speaker 2: to get a chance.
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  Speaker 1: He signed with the UFC in twenty ten. I started
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  Speaker 1: fighting in two thousand and nine. So the guy's been
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  Speaker 1: cut his teeth in the organization. And that's what I said.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and a lot of people, a lot of
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: people see the things that I say on the microphone
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: or in interviews or this and that, like I'm hyping
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: up a fight, and I wasn't hyping up a fight.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: I truly believed that Charles Olaverro wanted to win just
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: as bad as I did. This was his opportunity when
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: he was born in the favelas of Brazil, which is
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: like the ghettos of Brazil, and he had this glimmer
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: in his eye that he was going to one day
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: become a world champion in the UFC. This was that
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: moment that he dreamed about, right, you know, and taken
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: off away from him. He beat me, you know, And
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: but I truly believed that I was going to beat him.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: And that's when that's when, that's when magic happens. When
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: he got two guys or two teams, or two two
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: individuals fighting for the same for the same exact thing.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: Someone's got to win, someone's gotta lose, and then it
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: just then it just after that. It all depends on
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: how does he respond as the champion and how do
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: I respond to the guy who who lost in the
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: championship fight. And I think by just by sitting here
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: speaking about it, we get to move forward quicker than
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: if we hide from it, shield our eyes from it,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: not answer the phone calls, not you know, all of
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: a sudden just think that I'm not that good anymore,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: or fall into this self pity, the self perpetual, the perpetuating,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: revolving door of Okay, maybe I'm not that good and
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: I truly believe I'm still gonna be a UFC champion.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: It just gonna take a little bit longer than I thought. Dude, Yeah,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're right, man. Adversity shows people who they
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: are because it's all about how you respond to anything
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: that happens ever in your life. It's all it's like,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: all in your response about how you do it.
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  Speaker 2: the conversation about adversity creating, uh, I think Taylor tweeted
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  Speaker 2: it the other night too. Adversity show adversity. I almost
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: just repeated what I said earlier, But essentially, adversity shows
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  Speaker 2: a man who he is. And another reason I was
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  Speaker 2: fascinated to say with you because I know you handle
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  Speaker 2: this stuff very well.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I am curious to what you said earlier.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: The old Chandler would have not wanted to see anything,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: you know, been wanted to kind of hide shell away
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Why why were why were you that way back then?
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: And why do you think it's different now? You know?
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I just think it's a maturation process. I think it's
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I think I'm much more comfortable in my own skin
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: than I than I used to be, you know. I mean,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I I make it no secret. I was a small
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: guy from a small town who was taught to do
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: small things and I and I broke that mold. But
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: part of that mold, you know. But but I also see,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: like even even raising a child, you know, and you
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: you brought up your dog earlier. Like what happens when
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: when a dog knows that he Peter pooped on the
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: floor and then you acknowledge it, the dog immediately runs
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: away and tries to tuck their tail between their legs,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: and they want to run from it. They want to
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: hide from it. When my son does something wrong, or
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: he when we're potty training them and he peas or
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: poops in his pants, immediately he doesn't want to make
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: eye contact. He's looking looking away He even wants to lie.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: He wants to lie and tell you no, I didn't
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: when you you know darn well he did because you
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: can smell it. Yeah, this is I think it's it's
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: it's partly human nature. I think it's partly you know,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: we as human beings, we don't want to let people down.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: We have this this innate yearning to to not let
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: people down. And I think in mixed martial arts it's
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: such an individual sport too, that the loss was on
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: display for everybody to see, and it wasn't you know,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: it wasn't the boys loss. And the boys were behind me, right,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: you're behind me, and Tailor's behind me. My team is
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: behind me, but it's not their loss. It's my. It's
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: my no go to bed later that night, you know.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: And so it's it's such an individual thing, but in
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: that there's so much freedom because you have the opportunity
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: to show people that even in an individual sport, even
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: though I can, like I said, I was coming here,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm not coming here with a belt, but I'm
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: coming here with my heart on my sleeve. And I
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: could show up today with my heart on my sleeve
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: with complete disregard to that failure that I had just
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: forty eight hours ago, and not disregard for it. But
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: but I'm not going to let it hinder me. I'm
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: not going to let it define me, because failure is
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: an event and it's not a person. I am not
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: a failure. I failed on Saturday night. But the way
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: that I respond, in the way that I move forward,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: can prove to those that have failed, and proved to
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: those that have seen the failure or had failures that
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: they can in the future still become a champion. And
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I truly, I mean I was brought to tears earlier
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: when I saw my wife make a post and she
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: sent me a message and that I am a world
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: champion in life because of who I I have in it,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: the things that I do have, the fact that I
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: walked into onto the bus with two capable arms and
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: two capable legs, and I get to do what I love,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: and I have a platform to reach people, and I
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: do have love in droves. I have health in droves.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I have ridiculous a ridiculous support system around me in abundance.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: And these are the things that last that that belt
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: would have been awesome to bring on this bus but
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: it's just twelve pounds of golden leather, and it will
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: tarnish and it will fade, and it means a lot.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: It means. It means, it means the epitome of accomplishment
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: inside the confines of mixed martial arts competition. It means
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I'm the number one guy in the world. But it
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that I'm going to be happy, doesn't mean
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: that I'm to be healthy, doesn't mean that I'm going
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: to live a long and prosperous life that will in
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: turn inspire, motivate and reach people. So it's uh. The
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: old Michael would have just would have wanted to not
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: do this. The old Michael would have said, man, give
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: me a couple of weeks, give me and that with
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: those weeks would have turned into a couple of months,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: and they would have turned into you know, sleepless nights,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: and they would have turned into a lot of self pity,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: and they would have turned into a lot of blaming,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: and it would have turned into a lot of a
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: lot of self deprecating thing, which really, truthfully is a
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: lot of selfishness. I think I think we also we
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: also look at our failures in a vacuum and say, well,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I deserve this time to and I do. I mean,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: if if I and I know you understand this too.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: If I would have said, hey, man, i've seen a
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: couple weeks. You know, maybe I'll be back on the
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: bus and a couple weeks would have not thought anything
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: of it. Give them a couple weeks, let them, let
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: them cool off, let them let them lick his wounds
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: if you will. And I think I've earned that, But
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I also know it does sometimes come from a a
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: selfishness too, thinking that all of these things and these
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: losses happen inside of a vacuum, and and they these
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: weren't These things happened to us instead of for us.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: And I truly believe that this loss happened for me,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: so that this this chapter of this journey. Now we
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: can close this chapter of the first World title. Uh,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: now it was a loss, and now I get to
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: build myself back up, and I get to have some
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: amazing fights, and I get to have that next chapter,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: which will be winning the UFC title, I think eventually.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: So I think the old Michael would have would have
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: ran from it. The old Michael would have would have
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: shielded himself from it and thought that Okay, if I
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: if I just block everything out, that's where the real
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: healing can happen, or until I win again, or until
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I went again.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I know a lot of times people want
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: to get back to the spot where they're you know,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: obviously comfortable. Well that's and that's the hard because there's
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: insecurity that comes with not wanting to face certain certain
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: truths and stuff with that.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: And that's the hardest part about mixed martial arts. I mean,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: you brought your brother up earlier. I mean, obviously most
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: of the boys know. I wrestled in high school, wrestled
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: in college, and that was that was the best part
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: about wrestling. If you lost on Wednesday, you got an
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: opportunity to weigh in again Thursday or Friday or Saturday,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: and you get back in the wind column. I'm not
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: going to get be able to get back in the
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: wind column and get my hand raised and said that
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: UFC octagon until you know, I don't know, November, December, January,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: so there there's going to be months and I can't
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: wait that long. I can't I can't wait that long
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: to say, Okay, I'll get back on the winning track
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: back then, because my next training session will immediately become okay,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: either I failed completely or I was successful today. And
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: the old Michael focus so much on being perfect. Once
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I got to a certain point, once I won that
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: first world title, once I got to that number three
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: in the world, number five in the world, once I
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: got that world ranking, I focus so much on being
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: perfect because that's what I thought a world champion was,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: That's what I thought an the athlete at the highest
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: level was. But truthfully, we're all human beings, We're all
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: flawed individuals. We will have we will suffer losses, we
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: will suffer setbacks, and truthfully, it says so much more
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: about how you conduct yourself after a loss than it
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: would if I came here on the belt and on
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: the bus with the belt. And not that I trust me,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: but always I wish I had the belt. Oh, I
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: mean I wish I won. But but now it gives
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: us an opportunity to talk about how do where do
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: we go from here? How do we move forward? Or
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: from here? And luckily I've been here before, and I've
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: been and I've battled back from worse than losing to
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: number three guy in the world. In a UFC title fight.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of great things that came from this weekend,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: and I think my response moving forward will do more
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: for my legacy, for the future, accolades, for the support system,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: for the boys, for the following, for the everything than
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: even the wind. You know. And I still got this.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: This story is far from being over. Is what is
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: kind of next for you? You mentioned November, December, January, February.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: You think it's gonna be that long until you're able
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: to get back in the ring. I think, you know.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've had a heck of a year, man,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: you have had a year.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I feel like it's been a whirlwind. We came in
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: hot man, because you had to be ready for the
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: fight that you didn't end up fighting in. That was
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: one step, which is obviously, you know, a great move
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: by everybody's part.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: And it was a full training camp. Yeah, it did
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: a full training camp for that opportunity, which was just
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: a backup role. And then I did another full training
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: camp for January, and then another full training camp for May,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: and now here we are May seventeenth, and uh, you know,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: halfway through the year, so I probably I'll probably be
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: here in Nashville for a solid two months. I mean,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to Florida. I have a home
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: down in Florida now, So it's much like yeah, no,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: well it was. It was a mandatory. It was a
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: mandatory situation. Like I was doing the VRBO thing, and
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: then I had a book a VRBO and book a
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: rental car, and now I just I'm gonna have my
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: own life in Florida because you got your team and
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: you're set up down there. Yeah. Yeah, So, I mean
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I have my gym here obviously, Nashville, MMA, and we can,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: we can train, and we can. There's the UFC call
• 26:41
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• 26:43
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  Speaker 1: company and they invest in the company. They invest in
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: the people like they're trying to take over the world.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: And that's what I love about them, and that's why
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm so equally yoked with them. So
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: you got to get that phone call on Monday morning
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: after the tough loss. You know, it's it's, uh, it's good.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: But like I said, man, work boots are on. Maybe
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: you need to take a little look, take a little
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: bit of time off, let the body rest, let the
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: body like get back to neutral. Cool the jets a
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: little bit. But this journey is far from over. Yeah.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: If I'm your agent on the phone, I'm saying, he
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: twelve weeks. What we got boys, Let's get back in
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: the ring. Yeah, I mean that's no. I mean it's
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: uh yeah, we'll see you know, like we said, like
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: we were talking, how I came out hot. So yeah.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Oh and obviously there's gonna be some some uh some
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: time in between now and your next fight. What is
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: your routine and uh like body maintenance and training camps
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: and all that stuff.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: What's that gonna look like for you for the next
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: several months, Like how does that?
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: How does that work for a fighter, because usually, yeah,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: you got a twelve sixteen week camp, but outside of that,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: like what does that stuff look like for you?
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: So so for me, man, I've always just I've always
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: just tried to teach treat my body head to toe
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: like I'm a professional athlete, and I don't think a
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: lot of fighters, don't. You know, A lot of them are.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: A lot of them show up into training camp eight
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: weeks ten weeks out before ready to get in shape,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: shed the fat, get your cardio back up.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I want to be in tip top shape and ready
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: to go the day my feet hit the pavement down
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: in Florida, and I can move forward and do training
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: camp in shape and you know, lean, ready to go.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: So I can just work on skills, just work on
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: game plan, just work on acquiring new skills. So between
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: training camps, like you know, I landed on Sunday, hit
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: the son of this morning, so I'll do strength and
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: conditioning this week. My body, you know, my body is
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: not not banged up. I'm a little bit sore here
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: and there. Took a couple of lake kicks, hands are
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: sore as heck from you know, punching or whatever beat
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: the shit out of me. Yeah, my hands are sore, dude.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: But but you know, but it's just the little things
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: that I can just work around and just keep my
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: body moving because I I truly believe this. I don't
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: think we get old. I think we get lazy, and
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: we get busy, we get really busy, and then and
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: then we justify and then we become lazy. So I
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: think at thirty five years old, I feel like I'm
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: still twenty five. My body still feels like I'm twenty
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: five because I've stuck to my body work. I've stuck
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: to I use my roller every day, I use my
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: soul right every day. I'm supplement. I did not miss supplements.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I see this I brought Yeah, when I brought my supplement.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: I brought my supplements to the arena with me on
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Saturday night so I could take them Saturday night, and
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I took them, woke up Sunday morning, I already had
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: another bag ready, took them Sunday morning. Have not missed
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: my supplements since. And I imagine most people are like, ah, dude,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: that's only for training camp. I'm good. I'm gonna take
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: a couple days off. Not me. I actually doubled my
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: dose of omegas because I took some shots to the head.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Double tripled my dose of turmeric and kirkcumin glued to
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: thion antioxidant. So just like reading my body of the inflammation,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: We're doing some homemade enchiladas tonight. Shout out to breeze enchiladas.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: No free shade, no shadow. Going to corner pub picking
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: up some smokes, smoke some smoke, some smoke chicken for
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: enchilada's nice shout out corner pub. No free shoutouts, you know.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: So like it'll be it'll be a good home cooked meal.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Like that's kind of feel like a cheap meal, but
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: it's still healthy. Like, uh, it depends what are you
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: putting on the manchiladas. Now, cheese going on. I'm not
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: a big cheese guy, so I'm gonna lightly spread some
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: cheese a lot of sour. I'm a big sour cream guy. Though.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: No no free shouts, just anything you say, Hey daisy,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: daisy sour cream.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: And I went to the bathroom. Hey, no free shouts
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: of that bathroom. Uh you know, so so back to
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: my body and taking care of me. I just want
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: to I always say this too. I as a fighter,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: we always think, okay, well, punching, kicking, kneeing, elbowing, grappling,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: grappling and and grappling defense, those are those are the
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: most important things. But I also think, if all things
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: are equal and we're just as if me and my
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: opponent to strike the same and we grapple the same,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: we wrestle the same. The guy who is the better athlete,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: who can push for longer and not just push for longer,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: but push for longer after it gets painful, who is
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: mentally tough, physically tough, and a better athlete, that guy
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: is going to probably be the guy who has a
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: better chance of winning. So I've always just tried to
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: become a better athlete, especially between training camps. So I'm
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: working to I'll be doing a ton of strength and conditioning,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: lifting a little bit heavier, put on a little bit
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: more muscle mass that I lost during training camp because
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I for eight to ten weeks, I'm basically operating at
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: a calorie deficit every day to shed the fat, lose
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: a little bit of muscle mass so I can make
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: one fifty five, Like you know I woke up this
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: morning one eighty four. Oh shit, Yeah, in a week
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: or two, I'll be I'll probably be closer to one ninety,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: you know, after I put on maybe a little bit
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: of a little bit of body fat. So I'm like
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: cutting from one ninety to one fifty five. So I
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: gotta lose a little bit of muscle mass to get
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: down to Yo. That's insane, man, yea fifty five. It's
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: not fun. It's the worst part about about fighting. But
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: at what point were you one fifty five? Like when
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: was the way in Friday? Friday morning and you're walking
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: you're right now, what would you say? Four this morning?
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: So you're walking around already twenty pounds heavier? Yeah, that's insane.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: That's thirty A is that thirty? Hey? Somebody checked that.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Somebody checked the fucking tape. Do we say eighty four?
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: It was eighty eighty car carry the carry the wings.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: That's thirty yeah, almost thirty nine. And granted I flew yesterday,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: So what are you still fucking doing here? Nobody grabbed
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: a calculator. Just get mad lash out of somebody. Hey,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: it's not as easy for you like you're you know,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: but I always know eighty five is thirty, seventy five
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: is twenty.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's bad by me.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: I pride myself on math. So there goes any maths
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: credibility of fun out there.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: You know. But if you ask me, you know, one
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: twenty one twenty something to one fifty something, I don't
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: know what that is, but I know what one fifty
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: something to one. Yeah, seventy something, eighty something, ninety something,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Just I get it. I didn't get it, right, man, No,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: you're good. That's that Missouri education, you know.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So you're walking around thirty pounds heavier, Yeah,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: thirty pounds heavier ish?
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: How much? How much weight do you gain from the
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: way into the fight. So that was uh yeah, I
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: was about one seventy seven when I did my workout
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Saturday morning because I always do a shakeout. I always
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: doing like a hard pad session Saturday morning. Sweat a
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: little bit, shake it out a little bit, go over
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: a little bit of game plan stuff, and then we
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: fight Saturday night. So I was like one seventy seven.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: See you're already up over twenty pounds. Yeah at that point. Yeah, well,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, just uh, simple nuts and bolts like a
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: gallon of water weighs eight pounds, and I can crush
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: a gallon of water in the first hour, so I'm
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: already up eight pounds, and then after two hours, three hours,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I'm already through two gallons of water. That's sixteen pounds.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: You know, is it like the old wrestling days where
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: you go to the when you're a kid, you weigh in,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: you make weight, and you go to the nearest buffet
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: in town and just load the plate up.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: No man, and that well, that's one of the great
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: things about the UFC. No free shots, no shots out
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: and no free shots. The buffets either about no fucking
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: you got but no, you know, they have they had
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: all their all meals set up. So I mean I had.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: I had a big old thing of rice and salmon,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: rice and chicken afterwards. So I had been eating essentially
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: the same thing for the last eight weeks. So the
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: last thing I want to do, I want everything in me.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Wanted to go grab a pizza or even like a
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: big pasta or something, and I think I did. I
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: actually did have one gluten free pasta that night, no
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: free doction, fresh shouts pasta.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: I thought we would come together and like you know,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: a bond over a memory of like being young, making
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: way you go to the nearest buffet, but you like, no,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: you know, salmon rice and like, okay, yeah, no, I thought,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: before you uf title fight, you'und I just wanted to
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: keep I wanted to keep it all all the same.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: And then uh, you know, and then afterwards, even that night, man,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: after the fight, I finally ate that Snickers. Did you
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: did you hear about the Snickers? No? Like there was
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: a so right before I got the phone call from
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Hunter Campbell, like two days before now, I guess a
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: couple of days before that. We were at an airport
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: because we went to San Diego and bre got me
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: a snore. No free shouts, but she got me a Snickers.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: It's my favorite, my favorite candy bar. And I stuck
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: it in my bag and I didn't eat it, and
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: it stayed with me the whole trip. I forgot it,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: and then I got the phone call that I was
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: fighting for the UFC title, and that same day I
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: pulled it out and I'm like, dangdude, I can't eat
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: this now this sucks. So I had it down to
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: a Florida with me, Florida with me for the last
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: two months like kind of set it up on my like, yeah,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: like you're not going to eat you this is like me, yeah,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: you know, creating boundaries. Yeah. And then so it made
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: the Countdown show or no, it made Yeah, I made
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: the Countdown show and it made the embedded show. And
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: then and then people people immediately came and like look
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: at Chandler trying to get the Snicker sponsorship or look
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: at the UFC shamelessly promoting Snickers.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: And I was like, no, man, that's just a funny story,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, but Snickers if you want to sponsor
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: a boy, yeah what Haler? Yeah, you know, no free
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: shots if you want to be for the boys exactly.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Because then in but it was after the fight, it
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: was already so late, you know.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I didn't hit the press conference till almost one, and
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: then everything was pretty much closed, Like I could have
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: got pizza cut out something. I was like, I was like, babe.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: That was because Bree was like, hey, what can I
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: get you? And get you some food? Get you what
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: do you want? And alcohols out of the question because
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I got you know, tk O. So I wasn't gonna
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: drink anything. Yeah, But as far as food. I you know,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: all bets are off. I could have eaten anything. But
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: then it's like this would make me feel real depressed
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: if I really filled myself with a bunch of freaking food.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: So I was like, process, many, Yeah, I'm gonna eat this. I'
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: gonna eat the Snickers and I ate. I think I ate, like, uh,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: another protein bar or something, And that was pretty That
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: was it. And then I woke up the next morning
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: and had had breakfast. But Snickers is your favorite candy
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: bar by far. That's what I took out of that
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: whole thing. Yeah, but well, I mean I used to
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: have them, like back in wrestling, but all the way
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: back to wrestling, man like, like, just get done with
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: weigh ins, you know those wrestling those wrestling tournaments. Loud
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: as heck, you're just freaking munching on a Snickers or
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: like goober, do you ever have goober back in the day?
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Oh uh yeah, chocolate, yeah goober? No, no, sorry, no,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: it was the it was the jar that had peanut
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: butter and jelly, peanut butter, jelly, peanut butter jelly. It's
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: called Google. I don't think so Google.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: I thought goobers were like a little uh, little Yeah,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: a little ball that you get the movies or some ship.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Goober? Is it called goober? Yeah? Man like that with
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: on some bread.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: You know, that's what that's That's what reminds me of
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: sounds like it's just called a peanut butter and jelly
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: sandwich pretty much, but it's it's peanut butter and jelly
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: jelly sandwich in a jar. You don't have to have
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: a jar and a jar jelly and the bread.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Do you only have two ingredients instead of one? I
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: want to go back to the Snickers. Yeah, no free shouts.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Top three candy bars, Uh, Snickers, Baby Ruth, Baby Ruth,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Baby Ruth. Are you just trying to be different there?
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: You really like you don't like Baby Ruth.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I like Baby Ruths. I don't think it's in my
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: top three? Yeah. And then Almond Joy Coconut Almond Chocolate
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Top three, all three, no free shouts to any of
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: you guys. Almond Joy, Yeah, bro light a light. I
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: mean I'm probably missing a couple, but you're Missingese's. Yeah, No,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I do. I like. I like Reese's in ice cream,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Like I'm like a big I'm a sucker for Reese's
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: and ice cream, bro anything chocolate. I'm a big chocolate guy.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: You'll go into the frozen yogurt, you know, little spot
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: get you first of all, you sample the entire place. Yeah,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: you have to say, and you probably sample it again
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: because you're like not quite sure. You got to go
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: through the whole the whole list, even the surbert that
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: they try to put in there that make you feel
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: better about yourself. Like I'll try the sherbet and yeah,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: don't like sherbet. Again, you gotta try them all and
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: then you gotta eliminate.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Then you gotta make it to the second round. Then
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: you try to sample a few more. By that time
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: you're alread getting a little fool but you know what
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: you want, you know what I mean, I like to
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: At that point, it's all it's all chocolate for me. Like, yeah,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I don't sample the fruit the fruit stuff. Same, I'm
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: not a I'm not the fruit bar stuff either. Like
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: it'll be like all the strawberries and stuff.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm talking all the candies, all the like the caramel,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: the fudge.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: That's the best. Boys, what are you guys? Top candy bars?
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: M isn't a bar?
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a that's a little debay too. Yeahs isn't either.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, I mean it's a cup. It's
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: it's so you're Sayingese's isn't the candy bar?
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Okay? What about the East the Easter?
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the eggs, the bunnies, that's a bar, the bunnies,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Reese's period, Reese's is up there. I I am a
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: huge fan of Snickers, big Snickers guy. I'm also a
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: big heath bar guy means a sleeper. I like it
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: more my in my ice cream. But I'm a big
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: heath bar guy. Yeah, that's questionable. I understand. Stick your
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: teeth too, right, Carmel, But then first bites man, and
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: when when you when you bite into the heath bar too,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: and kind of like the uh, the aura, the vibe
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: that comes off of the bar, of the sensation that
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: kind of goes in your mouth, you know what I mean?
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I love that. No balls, So you don't like this ship, dude,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: you don't like you don't like? Huh? Candy bar reviews
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: is going to be coming up soon. There you go.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Did you see my mental going in the trying to
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: figure out what the taste was like? The boys do bars.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: I do think it's a vibe boys bars, I.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Think them all up.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: When you bite into a heath bar, it's like it's like,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's like an essential oil feeling your
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: filling your mouth like a heath that heath taste, you
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: know what I mean.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: That it's an experience. Yeah, but you don't like Baby Ruth.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I like Baby Ruth, you know. I like chocolate, I
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: like nuts, I like caramel. Yeah, I mean that's all
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: in there.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I'm just surprised that it's actually making your top three. Yeah,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: it's all, it's all. I'm just surprised it's making your
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: actual top three. And all'm enjoy I get it. You
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: like coconut, you need it. Seem like you've got a
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: healthier ish bar in there. I just don't see how
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: it's actually making your top three like that. Like there's
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: so many good candy bars out there, twis We've been
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: talking about twits.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: See, I'm I'm not the big wafer, not like the
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: wafer that much, but I like the chocolate and the
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: just chocolate and wafer, right, I have the caramel sitting
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: in there on top, dude.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Caramel kit cat bars butterfinger. Oh butterfinger? Ah see no, no,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: you like all'm enjoy over the what we just named? Yeah,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: because see I don't I don't like. I don't like
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: what was the one we just said?
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Uh, twix? No butterfinger. But I don't like butterfinger because
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's fake. It's too fake of peanut butter.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: I see we're saying, not like Reese's. That's that's like
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: peanut butter. You could put on a sandwich and make
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, but you can't. I
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: don't like the butter fingers.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: I'm a I love the I love butter fingers, but
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: butterfingers you can actually you can't like have like small
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: bites of butter fingers because you take a bite and
• 44:22
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• 44:24
  Speaker 1: She's gotta shove the whole thing. Yeah. What else? We got?
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Milky Way? I was never a big milky Way guy. No,
• 44:31
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• 44:34
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• 44:39
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• 44:45
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• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Don't really care, Mike going back to the way and thing,
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  Speaker 1: whoa whoa, whoa you ever? I'm sorry, I thought we
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  Speaker 1: The boys are doing bars bro. No, no, go back
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  Speaker 1: to the fight thing you ever face to face with
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: somebody at the way in and then getting the octagon
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: and be like, oh shit, they are way bigger than
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: they were the other night. Uh no, because I know
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I am like, I bet that that's what they think
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: about me. Okay, fresh outs to me, free shouts. No,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: but uh no, I mean I think sometimes Yeah, I
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: mean it is a crazy thing because we you know,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: you spend all this time thinking about your opponent. You
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: spend all this time watching footage or or maybe their
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: fights or their highlights, their low lights. Then you do
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: their face off and the way in and you sat
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: you see him one fight week, they started a little
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: bit sucked down, a little bit frail, and then when
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: you step inside the the Octaguy, okay, that's a fight.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: He's a very big boy, you know. Charles Olivera was
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: definitely taller than me, longer than me, but he was
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: very he was slender. I guarantee I weighed more than
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: he did. But no, not really. I mean we're all
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: all relatively the same size. You know, you're built like
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: an am staff. I'm a pretty good pit, you know
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: what I mean. Two c's let's talk about the fight.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: First round number one, Me and my brother shout out.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Ain't no free shouts to Cody Compton, but all three shots.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Because he's a boy.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: We've obviously armchair QB this whole thing. Yep, you know
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: what I mean. The why didn't you let him up?
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the first round. Did you ever feel
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: in trouble when he had your back? Like when you
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: were because you did a great job controlling the wrist,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: But were you ever there's times.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Where I was getting a little nervous.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, especially when you picked him
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: up and slammed it down it it didn't seem like
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: it got him off off of you.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Were you ever feeling a little nervous about that? So
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I wasn't because I really feel comfortable when someone has
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: my back that they're not going to choke me. I
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: can shrug my shoulders and I don't have the longest
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: neck and it's like built like a pit. Yeah, you know,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: so it's like I'm not that easy to choke for
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: the most part. And then when I get hit and
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: I get risk control and I get a one on
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: one or I get my two hands on his one wrist,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: which is what I did. Yeah, a couple of shots
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: because he had the one arm free. But but for
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: the most part, I knew I wasn't letting that that
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: bad dog go. And that's when I preached all the
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: all the young guys who are out there grappling, it's
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: like you get that one that one wrist. A, you're
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: gonna get out, and B he can't choke you. So
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: I held it and I had that sucker for like
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: a full minute. I think, oh, yeah, my forearms are
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: sore as heck, and it's not from anything else. Was
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: I's probably holding that sucker for dear life. And then
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: and then I did. I usually am able to do
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: exactly what I did, and he was. He is literally
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: the best grappler in the lightweight division, maybe one of
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: the best grapplers on the planet, most submission wins in
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: the UFS, in the UFC, most submission wins in the
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: UFC history. And I didn't really feel in danger, and
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: I was able to reverse it by keeping the keeping
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: the two on one going over my head and spinning
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: inside of his his triangle that had around my body.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: He had long legs, so he made a figure four.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Not right, he made a figure four in my body
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: because his legs were so long, which is not an
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: easy position. He squeezing the heck out of yet, yes,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: but once you start getting sweaty by that time, we
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: were sweaty. Slammed him. It kind of loosened up a
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: little bit. Then we kind of sat there a second.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: He threw threw a couple punches, a couple of elbows,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: but I was kind of just buying my time, waiting
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: to explode. And I exploded and then got on top. Yeah,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: and then you put on a little bit of a show.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: I thought they were going to stop the fight at
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: one point. I thought, man, dude, I'm telling you, we
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: were on our feet screaming. Dude. I thought that they
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: were going to end up stopping the fight at that time.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: And and that's where that's where I go back and forth,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: because I think I think if I would have just
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: backed off and said get up, maybe I could have
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: knocked him out. But then again, I'm I get a
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: lot of finishes when I'm on top of the guy,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: just ground and pounding, you know, grounding and pounded him.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: I have good. I have pretty good. He just long,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: he's at the really long legs. He was trying to
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: keep me at bay. Threw a couple of kicks, came
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: back in. You know, I'm trying to you know, you're
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: aiming for the temple the side of the head, hit
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: the ear, jaw obviously landed, landed some good ground, and
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: pound strikes a couple of elbows cut them open. So
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: I think I think it was a fifty to fifty
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: thing if you look at it and you think, man,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: what it should have could I probably should have just
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: stood him up. We got about a minute fifteen left.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: I maybe could have finished him on the feet. But
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: then again, you know, my intuition says, if I got
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: a guy hurt on his back, I'm gonna be able
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: to finish him on the ground. And I've done it
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: numerous times in the past, so I don't I don't
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: say that that was a bad decision. I think it
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: was a decision that maybe could have yielded a knockout
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: or finished. But I also could have very easily just
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: finished him on the ground as well, but I didn't.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: When so like when like Rogan and those guys talk
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: about going back to your feet, Like what is the
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: benefit of that other than being on your feet and
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: being like Mike's better on his feet stuff like that,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Like is there an extra ben like an added benefit?
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Is it?
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Is it that he's days and he's shaken up and
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: you're like making him stand up, and he's gonna have
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: to fight.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Without all that. Yeah, So I mean conventional wisdom, And
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: every fight's a little bit different, every scenario is different
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: depending on my attributes and his attributes. But conventional wisdom
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: would say, Okay, he just got dropped. I dropped him
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: with the left hook, hit him a couple of times.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: He's on the he's on the ground, he's kind of
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: like dazed. I saw the way he was looking at me,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: kind of was looking at me like a deer in
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: the headlights. So to me, I say, I'm going in
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: for the kill. I'm gonna knock him out on the ground.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: But I also could have just backed off, said come up.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: He would have stood up, probably would have been a
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: little bit wobbly. And if I landed a couple shots,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: my power punches on the feet were going to be
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: more effective than the power punches on the bottom. But
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: I also had I also had the film study that
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: said he'd been finished, he'd been finished on the ground before,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: and if Paul Felder can finish him on the floor
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: or other guys can finish him on the floor, I
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: could definitely finish him on the floor. So I think
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: that's where I thought, Okay, I can finish him on
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: the ground, or if I don't, I go back to
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: my stool confidence of sky high. He starts to wilt
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: and that's where I thought we were, and that's pretty
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: much where we were. But he just you know, landed
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: something in the second round, and you know, I fight
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: it out.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then at the end of the first obviously
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: you went back in at the just the last like
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: five seconds, try to getting back in there. But is
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: there a thought too, like fuck, I should have I
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: should have backed up and stood up. Not in the fight,
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: there wasn't but now now looking back at it. But
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: that's that's the unfortunate thing about this too. You can
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: always after.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: You lose, lose. We all know what you should could.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: We could have done this, and maybe it would have
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: been different. Or I could have done that, and maybe
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: it would have been different.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: So the wood I should have could have such a
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: such a tough game to play, and I try not
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: to play it too much anymore because I also I
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: trust myself.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, I if I didn't I knew,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: I knew I did everything that I possibly could to
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: be successful that night. Yeah, to have no regrets. And
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: then I also know that I trust myself to be
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: in the fire. I trust myself, like you know, if say,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: he doesn't finish me with that flurry and I'm like
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: hurt or whatnot. I trust myself.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: I know myself to go into autopilot, don't and I
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: don't get finished, and I would have been able to
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: fight for twenty twenty more minutes and I would have
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: won the fight.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: I truly believe that. But you know, the fight happened
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: how it happened. But I don't know. I trust myself
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: to make the decision right, to make those decisions in
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: the heat of the moment. Yeah, and uh, you know,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: so I wouldn't say that I made a bad decision.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: I think I made a decision, and I think, uh,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: you know, now we get to you know, play would have,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: should have could if we want to for sure, you know,
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: And I don't say that like we should or shouldn't.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's all I'm curious, what's going on.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just curious what's going on in your mind,
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: like as the stuff plays out, because you know, I'm
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: thinking in times where I should have made a different decision,
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: you know, I'll sit on the bench or something like
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: I should have done this, Like next time I'll get
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: to see it. Obviously we get more opportunities to see
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: it again. But like I'm just curious of the athlete,
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: and you like when you get to the to the
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: end of that first round, you're like, I should have
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: just stood this dude up. Obviously you're thinking, I'm all
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: whoop his ass in the second round. We all everyone's
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: excited going into that second no matter what I mean.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: There was there was two ten eights on.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: The scorecard and one ten nine on the scorecard, right,
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: so two of those two of those judges thought I
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: beat him bad enough to give him give me a
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: ten for sure. So so in that position, when you
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: get done with the first round, I'm going back to
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: the I'm going back to the stool, back to the corner,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: you know, confidence hide. It's oh similar to if you
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: mess up on the first down, you're not thinking about
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: the first down, going to the second down. Third, you
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: finish the drive, maybe you go back to the bench.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Then you think about what I could have done differently,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Like me, that's more after the fight. Now, It's like
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: whereas when I went back to the stool. I'm just
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: listening to my coach. Coach Henry's in front of me,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Coach Comed's behind me. We're talking about this, that and
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: the other thing. Keep it simple. Fight's going great, fight's
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: going just you know fine. I mean, at this point,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: the best grappler on the planet took my back, wasn't
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: able to finish me. And even even better, I reversed him,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: did damage beat him up a little bit, was winning
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: the striking battle on the feats. I mean, it's the
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: fight was going great. So it's you know, at that point,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: you're just you know yeah, because and.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: If you end up winning that fight, no one's even
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: talking about the first round like you should have stood
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: him up. This is obviously all the hindsight, like fuck
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: the way you want to wake up from a dream
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: and be like, hey, is it going to get there?
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Be redone?
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: But in the second round, man, because he barely he
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: barely caught you, and is it like lights get fuzzy
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: for a second, and it was such a quick turnaround
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: that you're just like, I just gotta get I just
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: gotta quickly get back, like you said, and get back
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: on this siddle pilot before he because you almost get
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: fucking out and he just catches you with that left
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: hand to end it.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, talk talk talk us through that. Yeah, I mean,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: it's it's all you know, it's it's all fuzzy, you know,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: more than anything. But I mean yeah, I mean, I
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: I remember, you remember getting hit. I mean, and I
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: can also go back and watch the replay. So then
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: when you watch the replay and then you think, you
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: try to close your eyes and think, Okay, what did
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: I actually see in the fight? You know, you get clipped,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: and then you're you know, then you're just then you're
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: just moving, you're evading, you're trying to you just going.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: You go into survival mode, because I mean, there's there's
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: the moments in the fight where you go into survival
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: mode and you survive, and then you go into survival
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: mode and you don't survive like this last one. I
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: didn't obviously, but I've been in those positions before where
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: you got to go from I'm either you know, you're
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: either extreme offense or your defense or your survival mode.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: In this in this particular fight, I went, you know,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: kind of survival mode. You're you're fuzzy, you don't know
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: which way is up, your your equilibriums off, and you
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: just you know you're there, but you're not really there.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: And then before you know it, he runs away, and
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: you're like, dang, fights over.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: Huh yeah, You're like refs right here, and you're like, well,
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: I could argue with this, but I probably shouldn't argue
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: with the stoppage because this guy knows what he did.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: I want to make an idiot of myself, you know,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: because we've all been there before, too, are we all?
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: We all have as fans have been like why is
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: he contesting that? Stop? But she was a getting beat
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: up or b he tapped, And there's been fights where
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: guys have tapped out completely. The guy gets up and
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: runs away and then the guy's like, why'd you stop
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: the fight? And you're like, dude, you did you you tapped?
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: You do not remember tapping. You were obviously out, you know.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: So that's the hard part too, is it's and and
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: even and I actually do I'm blessed that I actually
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: got to get on the mic after the fight and
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Joe came over, because sometimes Joe doesn't do that, and
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: sometimes they don't interview the guy who lost, especially after
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: a t K or something like that that because there's
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: been guys who are like mumbling and humbling, they're like,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: you know, they're kind of they're still out and they
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: don't really remember what they're saying or they're saying talking incoherently,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: and that's not good for the sport. That's not good
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: for like Joe. Joe has like gone back on his
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: podcast after on a Monday after a Saturday fight, like, yeah, man,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't have interviewed that guy. You know, that was
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: that was my bad. I should have just cut it right,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: you know, cut it. And they said, you know, in
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: my ear, they said, interview him. I just knew he
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: was messed up. He stumbled over me. I shouldn't have
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: done that, because that's just not only is a tough spot.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: You know, the guy just got his hopes and dreams
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: and heart ripped out, but he's also maybe he's not
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: there coherently. But for me, you know, I was able
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: to get on the mic and I set my piece
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: and shout out to you know, Olvera, no free shouts.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: He's the world champ, you know, and and you know,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: tap hat tip to him and let people know I'll
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: be back. And it's you know, it's all part of it.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Do you know who you think you might be fighting?
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: I don't like who would be on your radar, Like
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know people stone around Gaigee people obviously what's
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: gonna happen after Connor and Pourier fight and like maybe
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: the loser of that or something like that, Like who
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: are people that would be on the radar for you?
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Well that would make that you think in your mind
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: would make sense for you and possibly the UFC. Yeah,
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: I mean essentially anybody in the top five makes sense.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: You know. It's this The division moves so fast. The
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: sport moves so fast. I mean, that's what even with
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: the UFC brass you know, talk to them after the
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: fight and they're just like, hey, man, keep your head up,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: keep working, man. This sport moves fast. It's what have
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: you done for me lately? Business? You're only as good
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: as your last fight. But when your world class and
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: you're in the top five, your world class, and you're
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: in the top five, and there's a I've only fought
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: Dan Hooker and Charles Olivera at this point, Like you said,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: there's there's Poorier, there's get Chee, there's Connor, there's Ferguson,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: but Neil dry Yush is now in the top five.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: There's so there's there's no no shortage of guys to fight.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: But at this point, obviously Connor and Poitier a fighting
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: July tenth. We could see who the winner or the
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: loser of that is. You got Tony Ferguson and just lost,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: but Neil dry USh who just came in. Traditionally, you know,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: a guy who comes off a win fights a guy
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: who comes off a win, a guy who comes off
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: a loss fights a guy who comes off a loss,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: and then one guy moves up and one guy continues
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: to move down. So I think, really any of those
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: names make sense. I mean, the only one that's kind
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: of a wild card is Connor, because Connor does Connor
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: does have a little bit more say than than most guys.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: I think if Connor, if he loses this fight, though,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: if he loses this fight, he's still not gonna fight me.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: I think me and Connor don't. Me and Connor don't
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: match up well for him because he's a he's a striker,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: and I could I could grapple the heck out him
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: if I wanted to. You know, like I think it's
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: a it's a bad fight for him, Whereas if I
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: was the champion and Connor won, Connor would go for
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: the title no matter what and fight, you know whatever,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: like just like the fucking be But uh so, I
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: mean Gaetchee or if Poorier loses or Ferguson, you know,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: like those Feruson just I mean he's getting old, yes,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: but I mean but he's entertaining. Man. People love him.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: People do love like people learn. At the press conference, man,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: he broke out the greatest line of all time, freaking
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Dana White privilege. It was freaking hilarious, dude. It's it
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: was like for the time that we live in, Like
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously that's somewhat of a negative connotation, the
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: whole white privilege thing, and like, but like the funniest
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: ship dude, Dana White privilege, Dana White. He's like, man,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: you got this thing handed to you. Man, you got
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Dana White privilege, and Dana just and I look up
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: at then I'm like, thanks, Dana. You know. It's just
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: so man, It's it's a it's a fun group of
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: it's I want to beat them all. I want to
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: fight them all. But like, it's a fun group of
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: guys to be in with. You know, we're we're gonna
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: have some fun the next couple of years. And I
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: just hope it culminates at some point with me fighting
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: for the world title again. And really all that all
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: that needs to happen is me win one, two three. However,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Membre fights, right, you show out the next fight, man,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: show out, next fight. Continue to show that I'm world
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: class and why I'm here. And I mean, and that's
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: the thing too, when it's it's it's such a crazy
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: game of inches and you're fighting the best guys in
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: the entire world. So, yeah, I lost, but I lost
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: to the number three guy in the world. I lost
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: to the eventual world champion. You know. Yeah, so and
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: fight number twenty or I need to fight number fifteen.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: It's like, no, okay, now I'll fight number four, and
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: I'll fight number two, or I'll fight number five, or
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: I'll fight you know, I'm number four. I'll probably still
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: be you know, I'll probably still be number three or
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: four when the rankings come out on Tuesday tomorrow. Oh
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: so we'll know tomorrow, Yeah, pretty much. I mean, you
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: lost to the eventual champion with a ten eight round.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Well that's the thing too, I mean, you know what
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, It's not like like if you lost the
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: world champion on a ten a first round. Yeah, there's
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: some people out there who were like, hey, immediate rematches
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: go Chandler Oliver too right away. I mean that that's
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: a possibility. Do I think that's gonna happen. But if
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: I got Dana White privilege, I mean, hey, we need
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: that Dana White privilege. Baby for the running Beast is
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: just a joke. Like the people freaking mma fans are
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: gonna hate me. This guy we hate from the beginning,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: and this is why we hate him now tomorrow night,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: he's just scrolling on a Twitter and Instagram and he
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: just sees that one clip. Hey, if I get that
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Dana White privilege, and that's all it is.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Well at this point, Saint, you just got to run
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: with it, man. You know it's I mean, especially something
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: like that, there's there's a little bit of the you
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: know thing happening when the world with that. And then
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: there's also the Dana White's last name and it was
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: said by a guy named Tony by the guy liked
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: when he Ferguson.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: It's you know, it's all part of it. But I mean,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: I think the general thread and not even if I
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: just take myself out of it, and I just look
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: at my body of work coming into the UFC, and
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: then what I did. We just got done, Sam and
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: I came out hot. I did everything that was asked
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: to me. I showed up like the blue collar Midwest
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: kid with the work boots on, just like my dad.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: Just I showed up with my work boots on. When
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: the phone rang, I said yes one time, two times,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: three times every single time they called, and two or
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: three other times whenever guys didn't take the fight. I
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: was supposed to fight Tony ferguson October twenty fourth, he
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: said no. I was supposed to fight Dustin Pooria October
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: twenty fourth, he said no. It was supposed to fight
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Tony ferguson January twenty third. He said no. And then
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: even when I beat Dan Hooker January twenty third, they said, hey,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: do you want to be the co main event against
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Charles olivera February thirteenth, And I said yes. I was
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: at Cane Prime here in Nashville. I had a stake
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: in front of me. I had a glass of wine.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Got no free shouts to cap I'm m Street. All
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: the restaurants are there, fucking create so and I stopped
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: eating my stake right there. I said, check please, we'll
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: take it. We'll take it to go box. I was
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: on a date with my wife. Hunter Campbell called and said, hey,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: do you would you do this? And I said yes?
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: And then Charles Oliver eventually turned it down. It was
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: it was on three weeks notice. I was going to
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: fight Charles Oliver in February thirteen. So these are all
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: just the things that have happened six yes. So these
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: are the things that have happened outside of this, the
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: fights that I've actually had that that I think I
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: was rewarded for. That's why I got the title shot.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: You know. It's you've always stayed ready, stayed ready, And
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: the UFC is the biggest and baddest promotion on the planet,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: and they keep things moving very fast in a forward trajectory.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: And if you're on the on board with them, if
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: you're on the wagon with them moving forward, and you're
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: going to say yes, You're going to be rewarded for
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: it and it and it you got to be a
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: good employee first. You know you're a good employee. First
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: you get put in a great position. And this is
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: in the corporate world, the business world, other sports worlds,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: or mixed martial arts. Be a good employee first, be
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: a good ambassador for your organization, be a good ambassador
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: for your weight class, and a good ambassador for yourself,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: and then you will things will usually work out well
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: for you. And I think that's why I got the
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: title shot and now continue to operate with the same
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: through the same vein that I have since day one,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: and we'll get a fight well, and then we'll see
• 1:05:13
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  Speaker 1: What do we got?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: What do we have?
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  Speaker 1: Alex?
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  Speaker 2: You have?
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: You have some stuff popped up? Did we have any
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: fan questions? Any good ones? Any good videos? Comments? I
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: need to leave in a few minutes. What time? Yeah,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: what time it's on? It's two fourteen. I gotta be
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: there by too. Oh yeah yeah, yeah. One one question
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: with him and hey daddy, dude, you man, dude. I
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: know one day morning took cap the school, hit the sauna,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: did the bus? How often do you go to the
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: YMC and hit that sauna? Uh? Just depends, I mean often. Oh. Actually,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: the sauna just now got back open from COVID. Now
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: is it a It's not an infrared, it's straight hot song,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: war dish and sauna and then there's a steam room
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: as well. Would love to join you one Dreen Hills,
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  Speaker 1: Let's go bro. Yeah.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: I was looking into going yesterday, but they were closed
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: by the time I got home because I drove back
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: from Missouri and uh, I wanted to sit in the
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: ols on and sweat everything out for the weekends and
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: partying hard for the boy for the boy.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: But uh, but yeah, I would love to join you.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: It's so whenever you go this week, just let me
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: know when you're gonna good. What do we have here?
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Jacob Jacob Schaffner.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: The boys shout out to go Michael Chandler. So I
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: got two questions, one for the boys, one for Michael Chandler.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: For Michael, what's the difference in like a UFC title
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: fight and a Bellator title fight? And how was that
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: preparing in the atmosphere like in Houston? And what do
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: you think, well, you'll change or do something different at
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: all if you do anything for your next title fight
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: in the UFC, because they obviously know you're going to
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: be back, no doubt, greatest ever. And then for the boys,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: do you think you'll ever do one of those celebrity
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: boxing matches like the Paul brothers are doing, and if so,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: do you think Taylor could kick Logan Paul's ass? Maybe,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: maybe not, but that's just the questions. Shout out to
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: the boys, Love you Taylor and Will I guess you're.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: My dad's but see you at the top. Yes to
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: see you at the time. Shout out Jacob Schefner. Thanks
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: Jacob Man. A great question because I obviously fought the
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: majority of my career in Bellator, you know the number
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: two organization, and the UFC has been around the longest.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: I would say the biggest difference is I I won
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: three world titles in Bellator, fought for the world title
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: numerous times, defended the title numerous times, and they were
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: in big crowds. They were in big arenas, the atmosphere
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: was big. But this time was different because everybody knows,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: or if you don't know, you're you're kidding yourself. Fighting
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: for the UFC title means you are the number one
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: guy in the world, no ifans or butts, that's just
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: it's just how it is. So when I was stood
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: across the octagon from Charles Olivera, I knew the winner
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: of this was become the number one guy in the world,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: and if I won, I was going to be not
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: just the UFC World champion, but the world champion, the
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: number one guy in the world. So I wouldn't say
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: there was that pressure, but there was that confident expectancy
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: of the excitement of what it was going to be
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: had I won the fight, and then really just you know,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: as we've talked about, the UFC is just a well
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: oiled machine. The UFC has quarterbacked and championed the entire sport,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: the entire industry, and built it into what it is. Essentially,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: the other organizations there's about three or four other major
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: organizations outside of the UFC. They can all just show
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: up to venues put on shows, and they don't have
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: to do a ton of promotion because the UFC is
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: putting on so such big shows, touching every corner of
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: the globe, putting so much money into marketing and building
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: the sport that really all the other organizations can just
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: show up and throw fights and they'll do decently well
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: because the UFC is building the sports. Right, That's very
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: apparent when you're there, is.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: It pretty dope? When Bruce Buffer is just going off
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: introducing you. You know what I mean, Like you're like,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: I'm in his fucking ring. He's introducing me.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: It's it's dope, and and and even it even just
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: some like you know, I I started watching. My teammate
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: was on the first guy on the card, the first
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: fight of the card, the dude that was a fucking
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: banger fight. Yeah great, this guy named Sean Soriano. And
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: and I was watching the fight, and then they'd say, Okay,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: now that this fight is over, let's turn turn our
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: eyes to what's gonna happen later tonight. And then it
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: was like Chandler and Olivera and like and it's I
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: I've watched so many UFC pay per views, and I've
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: watched the pre limbs getting pumped up to watch the fights.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: But this time they were talking about me. And I
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: was in my hotel room and in the window behind
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: me was the Toyota Center right back there, a couple
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: of hundred yards away, where I was about to report
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  Speaker 1: just a couple hours later, to go do handle business
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  Speaker 1: and go fight for the title that they are talking
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  Speaker 1: about on my computer screen right now. So it was
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  Speaker 1: just it was cool, man, it's and Bruce Buffer and
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  Speaker 1: and they did the they did the blackout completely with
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  Speaker 1: the the lights around. Yeah, I mean, which I've seen
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  Speaker 1: on on TV on the pay per views, and but
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  Speaker 1: this time it was me inside the get inside the
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  Speaker 1: out gun and and I just I rose to the occasion.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: I lost the fight, but I rose to the occasion.
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  Speaker 1: I had a fight. I did everything I could. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't feel I felt like I was where I was
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be. Man, Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
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  Speaker 1: But that's the beauty of this freaking sport.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: You just you take your losses. You take the wins.
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  Speaker 1: You never you never you never take the wins for
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  Speaker 1: granted because they aren't that easy to come by. And
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: you definitely don't take the UFC title fight, the title
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  Speaker 1: shot for granted because those are hard to come by too.
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  Speaker 1: So I believe we'll get another one eventually, but we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming, bro. I know you got to
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: go be a dad. Gotta go be a dad. Man
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: back to daddy, dude. That's good man, this is what
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: I want to be though. Hey what do what do you?
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  Speaker 2: What do you uh you think Dana? The way Jake
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: paul Or calls out Dana wife for not paying fighters.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: I man, I I don't know Dana pays me?
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so, I.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we're we're always gonna complain about, don't we all,
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  Speaker 2: Like there's guys in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: You want to make more money, like we all want
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  Speaker 1: to make more money. We all and get I get MMA,
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  Speaker 1: and the UFC is a little bit different because we
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  Speaker 1: don't have a player's association or a union or whatnot.
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  Speaker 1: But we also just started what twenty eight twenty nine
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  Speaker 1: years ago, so we're still in our infancy as far
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  Speaker 1: as the sport goes. Man, as far as I'm concerned,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: the UFC has champion and quarterback the entire industry. And
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: the only reason that we were able to make a
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: paycheck whatsoever is because of the sleepless nights and the
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: hard work that Dana White and the Fertida brothers who
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: started the UFC bought it for two million dollars, right,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: they just sold it for like six billion dollars a
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: while back. Now we're owned by William Morrison Devor and
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: just to see the growth of the industry. So I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's just the way that Jake Paul, Jake Paul
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: especially Yeah, it seems too right, It seems too outside
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  Speaker 1: of anything monetary, like the UFC is like a first
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: class in absolutely everything that doesn't have the whole monetary
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: Like obviously there's arguments for the you know, I made
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: this boxing like.
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  Speaker 2: All the fighters in the UFC get this, But as
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  Speaker 2: far as everything else in the total package, it just
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  Speaker 2: seems like it is one of the premier organizations to
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  Speaker 2: be a part of.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: Oh for sure. That and and then the other thing
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: too is we can't we can't point our finger at
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  Speaker 1: our promoter, when really we should be pointing our finger
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: at the man in the mirror who is not. You
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  Speaker 1: can monetize yourself, your brand, your voice, your platform, your
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: your sales. You can with with the platform that the
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: USC gives you, you can become a millionaire outside of
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: your fight purses with the promotion and the platform that
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: they give you. Unequivocally, especially some of these guys. Look
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: where just look where my following has gone just in
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: the last couple of months, and I've only had two
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: fights in the UFC. And if I want to monetize that,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: if I want to start a podcast, if I want
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: to write, you know, I mean I can, I can
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: read ads pretty dark. You can that the first Yeah,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: the fighter and the bloy, you know, so no free
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: shouts to the fighter and the brand that hast you know.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: But you can monetize a brand. You can build a brand,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: and you can make money outside of just your fight person.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: So if you're mad at your promoter because you're not paid,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: not getting paid enough inside the octagon, well take it
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: upon yourself to take the the attention that you can
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: grab from every single one of these fights and monetize it.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: So that's my two cents. But I'm also a bootstraps.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: You know. The man in the mirror is the guy
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: who needs to do the work, not the other people
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: kind of guy anyway, So that's okay. Who can read good?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: I can read pretty yeah, pretty good, man. I appreciate you, bro,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: thank you for having yeah go pick up when lose
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: your draw. We were coming on the bus, I know.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: And now that you're I heard, you're gonna be in
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: town for a couple months. Like that's boys can hang, man,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: boys can hang. And you know, if Taylor gets sick, man,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: you put me around here, I won't hesitate it. I
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: won't hesitate. I don't have the mustache, but I could
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: we can figure something out about one hundred pounds less
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: than him. Yeah, one hundred and fifty pounds less. Yeah,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: let's do that math. But appreciate you boys. Thanks boys
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: for having me. I appreciate it.
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