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The Late Debate | 2 March · The Late Debate

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Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wel late to play.
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Speaker 2: Well, good evening, thanks for your company. I'm James Macpherson
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Speaker 2: with Caleb Bond and freyer Leech. Before we get into
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Speaker 2: things tonight, Caleb, one highlight from your weekend.
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Speaker 1: Oh well, the weather was terrible actually, I have to say,
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Speaker 1: but it was nice to just relax and prepare for
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Speaker 1: a busy week ahead, because of course, when I've got
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Speaker 1: to deal with you, James, it is always a busy work.
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Speaker 3: You need to strength Caleb. What about you? Frey?
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Speaker 4: Would you get up to I finally nailed making pancakes
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Speaker 4: in my stainless steel frying pan. I always mess it up.
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Speaker 4: At this weekend, I got it and I was very pleased.
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Speaker 3: Well done, very good.
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Speaker 2: Our house was sick on the weekend, so it was
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Speaker 2: a pretty quiet one for us.
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Speaker 3: All right, here's what's coming up tonight.
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Speaker 2: Australian Islamic groups announced special events to honor the martyrdom
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Speaker 2: of Iran's Ayatolla. Anthony Alberinezi has described the events as inappropriate.
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Speaker 2: Penny One succeeds in having one Lation One Nation leader
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Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson censured for a comment she made on Sky
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Speaker 2: News about Muslims and Victorian Premier Siner Allen sees her
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Speaker 2: Instagram followers grow by more than fifty thousand in one day.
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Speaker 2: Now we've seen her Instagram feed, and I promise you
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Speaker 2: there is no logical explanation for any new followers that alone.
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Speaker 3: Fifty thousand will get to all of that shortly.
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Speaker 2: But first, Donald Trump is warning that the war with
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Speaker 2: Iran could last a month as the US and Israel
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Speaker 2: continue to bomb targets throughout the country. In all, they've
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Speaker 2: hit more than two thousand targets while suffering just three fatalities.
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Speaker 2: Trump warned Americans should prepare for more.
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Speaker 5: Sent Cam shared the news that three US military service
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Speaker 5: members have been killed in action. As one nation, we
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Speaker 5: a grieve for the true American patriots who have made
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Speaker 5: the ultimate sacrifice. But America will avenge their deaths and
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Speaker 5: deliver the most punishing blow to the terrorists who have
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Speaker 5: waged war against basically civilization.
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Speaker 2: Now, the reignings have said they will not be returning
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Speaker 2: to the gootiating table as their scattergun military response continued today,
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Speaker 2: drones targeting US bases in neighboring Middle Eastern countries and
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Speaker 2: missiles launched at Israel. Israel, meanwhile, is now targeting southern
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Speaker 2: Lebanon after Iranian proxy Hesbala launched missiles into Israel's payback
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Speaker 2: for the killing of Ayatolas. So you've got all of
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Speaker 2: that going on, and in the midst of it, Caleb
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Speaker 2: just over one hundred thousand Australians stuck in the Middle
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Speaker 2: East unable to get home.
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Speaker 1: Indeed, though when they say one hundred and fifteen thousand Australians,
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Speaker 1: presumably many of them are people who live in the
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Speaker 1: Middle East but also happened to be Australian citizens, so
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Speaker 1: we count them as Australian. But you know, it's not
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Speaker 1: like one hundred and fifteen thousand people have just sort
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Speaker 1: of gone for a holiday in Dubai or something and
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Speaker 1: we're sort of caught unawares by all of this. I
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Speaker 1: think we do need to take that into account. I
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Speaker 1: find it amusing that Iran says they're not going to
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Speaker 1: go back to the negotiating table, because what other card
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Speaker 1: do they have to play? Like they have nothing now
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Speaker 1: they've been shown up. Of course, last time they were
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Speaker 1: struck by the US, they did basically nothing about it
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Speaker 1: because they can't and they're in the same position. Now
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Speaker 1: you've got pretty much the entirety of the Middle East
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Speaker 1: is on board with this. You've got the entirety of
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Speaker 1: the West on board with this. Iran is on its own.
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Speaker 1: So what else can they possibly do but try to
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Speaker 1: negotiate or have a high level military leaders, IRGC leaders
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Speaker 1: hand themselves over and say mea culpa, mea corpa. They
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Speaker 1: have nowhere to heart anymore, Absolutely nowhere, and Trump has
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Speaker 1: proven that yet again. So it's confusing that they say
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Speaker 1: that's what they're going to do because it won't work.
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Speaker 1: And all the more confusing on the basis of the
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Speaker 1: fact that, of course most of the Middle East is
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Speaker 1: on board with this, that you have people running around
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Speaker 1: in this country today trying to suggest that this is
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Speaker 1: a terrible thing. I mean, the toll of for him
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Speaker 1: and take a dictatorial Islamist pig, and he is being
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Speaker 1: defended more in western countries than he is in any
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Speaker 1: country in the Middle East today.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly right.
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Speaker 4: And I think it's also important to just note how
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Speaker 4: successful these operations have been. I mean, we're only we're
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Speaker 4: barely seventy two hours into the operation and they've already
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Speaker 4: taken out dozens of senior Iranian military personnel, Hezbollah has
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Speaker 4: now said they're entering the war and started firing rockets
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Speaker 4: at Israel. Israel has mobilized one hundred thousand reservists and
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Speaker 4: hasn't ruled out another ground invasion of Lebanon. So I
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Speaker 4: really think what could potentially happen is Iran. The regime
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Speaker 4: knows that they are basically over. It's pretty much done.
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Speaker 4: I think, especially with the death of Hermione and the
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Speaker 4: power vacuum that that opens up within the regime, they're
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Speaker 4: going to try and activate all their remaining proxies, or
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Speaker 4: what's left of them, to be honest, is already annihilated.
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Speaker 6: You've got Hesbler and maybe the Hootsi is left.
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Speaker 4: So this will be a great opportunity to just clear
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Speaker 4: out the Middle East. And within two years, I think
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Speaker 4: what we will look back on and remember and say
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Speaker 4: is October seven was the biggest military miscalculation of this century.
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Speaker 4: Two years on, no Hamas, no hesbla decapitated Iranian regime,
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Speaker 4: Asad has fallen in Syria. I mean, it has completely
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Speaker 4: reshaped the Middle East and all it all really started
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Speaker 4: on October seven, And.
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Speaker 2: Of course the military action against Duran over the weekend
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Speaker 2: set off celebrations right around the world as Iranians rejoiced.
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Speaker 3: With the killing of the Ayatola.
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Speaker 2: M It really does leave to your point, Freya Israel
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Speaker 2: as the lone superpower now in the Middle East, which
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Speaker 2: is quite a remarkable result when you go back to October.
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Speaker 3: Seven in twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 2: The other interesting part of this Caleb is the Iranians
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Speaker 2: lobbying missiles and drones at places like.
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Speaker 3: The UAE and Bahrain and Kuwait.
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Speaker 2: Which I think a lot of people did not expect,
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Speaker 2: certainly for many viewers who would have been to Dubai.
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Speaker 2: You never expect when you're traveling through Dubai that you
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Speaker 2: may get caught up in a war zone. They've sort
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Speaker 2: of always been on the perimeter of these things, but
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Speaker 2: as we said in the introduction, quite a few people
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Speaker 2: now stuck there. They're saying it could be up to
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Speaker 2: two weeks before they can clear people who are in
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Speaker 2: Dubai commuting through because everything, of course has been closed down.
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Speaker 1: Of course, and you feel sorry for those people who
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Speaker 1: are caught up in that, and many of them would
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Speaker 1: be I'm sure worried for their lives and families who
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Speaker 1: are concerned about people who are stuck in the Middle East.
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Speaker 1: One hopes that as Trump has said, this is a
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Speaker 1: reasonably swift and easy task for weeks, as you said,
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Speaker 1: is currently what he is saying. And of course these
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Speaker 1: places are being targeted because they have aligned themselves with
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Speaker 1: Trump and the West, and you know, places like Qatar
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Speaker 1: where we have a US military presence, they have now
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Speaker 1: become targets because they don't want to be involved in
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Speaker 1: the absolute madness of outfits in the Middle East like Iran.
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Speaker 1: And we showed you that footage there of Iranians around
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Speaker 1: the world who know the reality of the regime, They
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Speaker 1: know the reality of how the ir tolers have operated.
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Speaker 1: But compare and contrast that with people in the West,
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Speaker 1: particularly some publications which over the last couple of days
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Speaker 1: have somehow seen fit to line so that may be
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Speaker 1: a little too far, but they've certainly seen fit to
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Speaker 1: almost whitewash the legacy of the Eye Toller and take
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Speaker 1: the opportunity to talk about him in terms about which
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Speaker 1: we would not talk about any other dictator. I mean,
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Speaker 1: try to think in your mind, Hitler. If Hitler died today,
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Speaker 1: would we be reading in publications in the Allied nations
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Speaker 1: about how you know, Hitler was a man who took
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Speaker 1: Germany to be a powerful nation in Europe. Probably not
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Speaker 1: because that would be to give him too much credit,
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Speaker 1: even though of course that's what he did. They ended
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Speaker 1: up in a war that they lost. He killed six
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Speaker 1: million Jews, etc. Etc. But if you're the Aye Toller,
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Speaker 1: no Western publications give you a much easier ride. That's
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Speaker 1: reserved for Islamists. You see the Washington Post, for instance,
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Speaker 1: writes with his bushy white beard and easy smile, Ayatola
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Speaker 1: Hameni cut a more avuncular figure in public than his
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Speaker 1: perpetually scowling but much more revered mentor, and he was
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Speaker 1: known to be fond of Persian poetry and classic Western novels,
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Speaker 1: especially Victor Hugo's Les Miserab. I mean, for goodness sake,
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Speaker 1: this bloke is a murderous thug. Let's take a look
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Speaker 1: at the New York Times, where the headline to their
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Speaker 1: obituary called him a hardline cleric who made Iran a
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Speaker 1: regional power. Yes, I mean, you couldn't get anything in
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Speaker 1: there about all the death and destruction and censorship and
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Speaker 1: whatever that he wrought upon people. In fact, you have
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Speaker 1: to get to the twelfth paragraph of the New York
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Speaker 1: Times obituary for them to first even mention people who
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Speaker 1: have been killed by his regime, and it makes mention
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Speaker 1: of about three thousand people being killed in protests. Well,
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Speaker 1: the reports we know out of Iran are that more
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Speaker 1: than thirty thousand people were killed in the recent protest.
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Speaker 1: Where did these publications get off talk about him as,
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Speaker 1: you know, with his flowing white beard who likes to
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Speaker 1: read lay miserab as though he were your sort of
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Speaker 1: you know, a quirky grandfather and some bloke who turned
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Speaker 1: around into a regional superpower.
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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, I just love bushy white big
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Speaker 2: and his easy smile. As homosexuals hung from cranes dying.
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Speaker 2: You know, imagine if Donald Trump died overnight, what do
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Speaker 2: you think the obituaries in the papers the next day
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Speaker 2: would be? Like, I don't think they'd be commenting on
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Speaker 2: Trump's literary tastes and how good he was with, you know,
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Speaker 2: mentoring young people or whatever. And as you say the
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Speaker 2: point you made about Hitler, I mean, can you imagine
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Speaker 2: them describing Hitler as he had a neat mustache and
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Speaker 2: liked art and a fondness for young children and dogs
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Speaker 2: like it just would not happen, but somehow if you're
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Speaker 2: an Islamist. It reminded me of the headline when was
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Speaker 2: at Bagdaddy, who was the head of ISIS when he
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Speaker 2: was killed by US forces. They described him as a
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Speaker 2: austere religious I think we've got the headline. We can
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Speaker 2: show you there from the Washington Post. There you go,
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Speaker 2: as religious scholar at the helm of Islamic state. I mean,
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Speaker 2: this guy ran one of the most brutal regimes the
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Speaker 2: world has ever seen. I bring that point up Freyer
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Speaker 2: to emphasize what Caleb said. This is not a one
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Speaker 2: off in terms of the Aya toler having a fluff
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Speaker 2: piece as his obituary. This is what left leaning publications,
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Speaker 2: particularly in the US, do for Islamic leaders.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I mean, with the way they eulogized him and his bushy,
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Speaker 4: white beard and easy smile, sounds like they're describing Santa
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Speaker 4: Claus not an Islamo fascist dictator. And I'm sure the
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Speaker 4: tens of thousands of people who've been murdered by the
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Speaker 4: regime and their families, even here in Australia would take
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Speaker 4: great offense to that description of him. But I think
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Speaker 4: there's a reason the left, particularly and these are more
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Speaker 4: left leaning publications, they cannot bring themselves to criticize the
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Speaker 4: Iranian regime because what we've seen time and time again
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Speaker 4: is that they're hatred for the West and for our
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Speaker 4: way of life, and particularly for America, and Israel overrides
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Speaker 4: everything else. So they are willing to eulogize a psychopathic, murderous, homophobic,
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Speaker 4: hated women, hated everything tolerant that lefties should stand for.
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Speaker 4: They're empathizing and being compassionate towards someone like that because
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Speaker 4: they're so blinded by their own detest of the West,
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Speaker 4: and I think that's just sad, But I've always found
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Speaker 4: it so bizarre as well as a reporter, a journalist
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Speaker 4: by trade, someone who has spent my entire career in
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Speaker 4: the media, which relies for me to earn a crust
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Speaker 4: on having freedom of speech, and I'm not told by
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Speaker 4: the government what I can and cannot say, and the
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Speaker 4: publication I work for not being threatened with destruction or
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Speaker 4: being discredited.
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Speaker 1: They're not allowed to publish anymore. How does a journalist
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Speaker 1: who makes money out of freedom of speech possibly in
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Speaker 1: any respect give support to a regime or a leader
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Speaker 1: who would if they lived in that country, ensure that
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Speaker 1: they didn't have a job, and if they were to
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Speaker 1: have a job, it would only be because they get
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Speaker 1: to parrot the views of the government. It is so
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Speaker 1: antithetical to what they do for a living.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and yet I reckon Fred, there's a lot of
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Speaker 2: people in this country who would have read those obituaries
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Speaker 2: and probably been sympathetic with them.
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Speaker 4: Well, I think there are people in this country who
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Speaker 4: didn't even need to read the obituaries and they were
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Speaker 4: already mourning the leader. There are four mosques, she mosques
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Speaker 4: and prayer halls that have advertised that they'll be holding
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Speaker 4: memorials for this supreme leader Ayatola Hamani. These mosts are
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Speaker 4: in Sydney and Melbourne. Now, I think if you are
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Speaker 4: in Australia and you are honoring the quote martyrdom of
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Speaker 4: a radical Islamist, murderous dictator, we seriously as a nation
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Speaker 4: have to ask one how did you get here? Two
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Speaker 4: how are you able to continue to hold these views.
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Speaker 6: Now that you are here?
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Speaker 4: And three how can we get you out of here
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Speaker 4: as quickly as possible?
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Speaker 6: Because that is disgraceful.
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Speaker 4: This is an example of our country literally importing hatred.
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Speaker 4: This is not Australian. Australians do not mourn Alikmani.
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Speaker 6: They just don't.
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Speaker 4: So how did these people get here and how are
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Speaker 4: these ideas allowed to flourish?
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Speaker 6: And also keep in mind a lot of.
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Speaker 4: These religious institutions have tax deductibility status. We subsidize them
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Speaker 4: as taxpayers. That needs to be immediately revoked.
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Speaker 1: Well.
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Speaker 2: Anthony Albinezi has asked his opinion on these memorials for
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Speaker 2: the IATOL.
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Speaker 3: Here's what he said.
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Speaker 7: We in this country have a different approach to people
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Speaker 7: having different views from a totalitarian regime such as around
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Speaker 7: people won't be participating. Overwhelmingly, what Australians want is in
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Speaker 7: the Australian Covenant, no matter where people are from, is
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Speaker 7: that if they have any hatred or prejudice, it's left
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Speaker 7: at the customs hall.
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Speaker 2: Now, Tony Burke has said that agencies will be watching
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Speaker 2: these memorial events. I'm surprised Tony Burk's got time with
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Speaker 2: all of his Isis Bride commitments. But asio should get
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Speaker 2: a copy of the signed condolences books if they are
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Speaker 2: provided at all of these events, and anyone who is
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Speaker 2: part of these memorials for the Iatola should certainly be
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Speaker 2: checked out by security agencies and if they're not an
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Speaker 2: Australian citizen, they should be ordered straight back home. We
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Speaker 2: had an imam in Arncliffe, which is only about ten
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Speaker 2: kilometers away from Bondai, over the weekend describing the Ia
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Speaker 2: Tola as Unde quote the embodiment of everything we want
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Speaker 2: in a leader, and just a short distance from there,
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Speaker 2: another Islamic leader described the confrontation between US forces and
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Speaker 2: the Iranians as a confrontation between good and evil that
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Speaker 2: will continue until the reappearance of the Mahadai, which is
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Speaker 2: the twelfth Imam who will bring Islamic rule across the globe.
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Speaker 2: So these views are not just some crazy rat bag
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Speaker 2: over here and some weirdo over there. There's clearly a
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Speaker 2: small but significant group of people in this country who
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Speaker 2: don't just sympathize with the Iatl as bushy, white beard
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Speaker 2: and winning smile, but actually are quite on board with
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Speaker 2: his ideology and continue to support it.
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Speaker 3: That's a real worry for this country.
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Speaker 1: And the great shame is that we have allowed that
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Speaker 1: to come to our country in the first place, because
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Speaker 1: it is not of this country, right. We should have
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Speaker 1: done something about that. Before it started. Now we find
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Speaker 1: ourselves in the unfortunate position of we are here, and
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Speaker 1: what do we do about that? I mean, to your point,
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Speaker 1: I kind of think, yeah, they should get hold of
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Speaker 1: every person, every name who has given support to the
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Speaker 1: Eyetola or is going to one of these memorials. Every
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Speaker 1: single one of them should be deported because I'm sorry. Yes,
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Speaker 1: we have free speech, and we have freedom of religion,
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Speaker 1: and that is very important, and you should be able
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Speaker 1: to practice your religion and believe and say what you want.
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Speaker 1: But once your beliefs become completely antithetical to those basic rights,
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Speaker 1: which is freedom of religion and freedom of speech, you
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Speaker 1: have moved into another territory. These people would prefer that
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Speaker 1: you couldn't practice your free speech and practice your freedom
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Speaker 1: of religion. So why should you have the right to
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Speaker 1: use or abuse that right while you're here if you
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Speaker 1: don't think it actually should exist.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, let me just cut off this conversation for a
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Speaker 2: moment to bring you some breaking news. The United States
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Speaker 2: has confirmed that three of their F fifteen Strike Eagles
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Speaker 2: flying in support of Operation Epic Fury, were involved in
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Speaker 2: a friendly fire incident in Kuwait. Vision emerged late today
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Speaker 2: showing the plane going down. The pilots managed to eject
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Speaker 2: themselves and are safe. But that's big news that they
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Speaker 2: were not shot down by Iranian forces. They actually were
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Speaker 2: shot down by friendly fire.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Well, no doubt there'll be an investigation into this and
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Speaker 4: how it happened. But for three jets to be taken
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Speaker 4: out in this way by friendly fire is a huge
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Speaker 4: and costly mistake, thankfully. I mean, this just is a
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Speaker 4: testament to how far military technology has come.
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Speaker 6: That none of the pilots lost.
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Speaker 4: Their lives and they were all they all managed to
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Speaker 4: eject from the aircraft's safe. But it's very concerning, and
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Speaker 4: those are expensive pieces of equipment right there, to say
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Speaker 4: the least.
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Speaker 6: But yeah, I'm sure there'll be an investigation to come.
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Speaker 1: I think as well. Trump is acutely aware of the
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Speaker 1: fact that he has to do all of this with
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Speaker 1: the minimal toll to the US possible, because of course
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Speaker 1: he promised we wouldn't go into forever wars and these
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Speaker 1: sorts of things. So he is conscious of the fact
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Speaker 1: that it has to be done with the least loss
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Speaker 1: of life and the least loss of resources that it
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Speaker 1: possibly can be.
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Speaker 2: Now over the weekend, at the Albaneze put out a
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Speaker 2: statement which was pretty much in support of the US
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Speaker 2: Israeli action in Iran, such that John Lyons on the
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Speaker 2: ABC was very critical of the Albaneze government, so clearly
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Speaker 2: it was a statement of support.
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Speaker 3: What's funny is that in the Senate.
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Speaker 2: Today the Coalition moved a motion to congratulate the United
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Speaker 2: States and Israel for taking out the Aya toll and
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Speaker 2: severely damaging Iran's nuclear capability. So you'd think the government
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Speaker 2: would agree to support that motion. After all, as I said,
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Speaker 2: Anthony Albanezi on the weekend came out in support of
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Speaker 2: what the US had done. However, Labor voted against the motion.
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Speaker 2: Let me read for you the motion that was put
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Speaker 2: to the government. It was moved that the Senate congratulates
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Speaker 2: the United States of America and the State of Israel
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Speaker 2: for their sustained efforts to prevent the Islamic Republic of
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Speaker 2: Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon, acknowledging the long standing
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Speaker 2: threat posed by Iran's nuclear and ballistic missile programs to
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Speaker 2: regional and global peace and security. Will Of course, the
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Speaker 2: Greens voted against that, and so too did the government.
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Speaker 2: I'm surprised Freyer, but not surprised at all. The government
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Speaker 2: can't really be seen to support anything, especially that has
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Speaker 2: the word Israel in it, and so they support the
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Speaker 2: military action but will not congratulate the US or Israel
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Speaker 2: on the military action.
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Speaker 6: I mean, I think in some ways I'm with you.
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Speaker 4: I'm not surprised at all that Labor is completely half
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Speaker 4: hearted and purely playing politics here. But the sad reality
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Speaker 4: is that this motion will make absolutely no difference because
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Speaker 4: Australia has been completely written off the map geopolitically. I mean,
21:13
Speaker 4: we have become a weak country. We are now perceived
21:17
Speaker 4: as unreliable and our leaders are to blame. Penny Wong
21:21
Speaker 4: said it herself in an interview talking about the strikes
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Speaker 4: on Iran. She said, Oh, well, you know we're not
21:27
Speaker 4: privy to the intelligence between the US and Israel. I mean,
21:30
Speaker 4: of course you're not, because why would they share this
21:33
Speaker 4: sensitive intelligence with Australia. They don't trust us as a
21:38
Speaker 4: reliable ally anymore. And so the Coalition was completely right
21:43
Speaker 4: to move this motion. We should be congratulating the US
21:46
Speaker 4: and Israel. But it's no wonder we're left out of
21:49
Speaker 4: these big decisions because we've got a government that can't
21:52
Speaker 4: decide whose side there really aren't speaking to that motion.
21:56
Speaker 3: Have look at David Shubrid.
21:57
Speaker 2: She accused Labor, Liberal and the One Nation parties of
22:02
Speaker 2: being parties of war.
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Speaker 8: And we now see you for what you are, the
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Speaker 8: three war parties, One Nation, the Coalition and Labor, who've
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Speaker 8: never seen a US war.
22:15
Speaker 9: They don't want to back in. Millions of Australians disagree
22:18
Speaker 9: with you. They want a government of principle, they want
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Speaker 9: a government of peace. They want the best for the
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Speaker 9: Iranian people, and they say no to Trump's and Nedanyahu's war.
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Speaker 1: Say the Greens have never seen an Islamus they didn't
22:29
Speaker 1: want to back in. I'm a bit confused. I was
22:32
Speaker 1: sort of, you know, understanding what he was saying. And
22:34
Speaker 1: Tilly said, they want the best for the Iranian people
22:37
Speaker 1: and they don't want Trump's war. I mean, it is
22:40
Speaker 1: one thing to say that Western intervention in the Middle
22:43
Speaker 1: East has by and large, over the last thirty years
22:46
Speaker 1: not gone terribly well. You can also then acknowledge that
22:50
Speaker 1: this is an entirely different situation. It is a precision
22:54
Speaker 1: operation that Trump has already proven he can pull off,
22:58
Speaker 1: and it is being done to help liberate people in
23:02
Speaker 1: Iran who have been killed in their tens of thousands
23:06
Speaker 1: for standing up and saying we don't want to be
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Speaker 1: oppressed anymore. It's a slightly different situation. And the fact
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Speaker 1: that this very simple motion that if it weren't for
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Speaker 1: the fact they didn't vote for it, most people would
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Speaker 1: not even know or even be We certainly wouldn't be
23:22
Speaker 1: talking about it. Maybe a few, you know, people with
23:25
Speaker 1: drips still in their bios on Twitter or something, would
23:28
Speaker 1: be talking about it, but no one else would be
23:30
Speaker 1: because it wouldn't have been noticed. It's only been noticed
23:33
Speaker 1: because they didn't vote for it. There was another motion
23:36
Speaker 1: that got up, a long one that noted that you know,
23:39
Speaker 1: we're happy is dead.
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Speaker 2: But they welcomed the of the eye toll. They condemned
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Speaker 2: the IRGC for spreading terror. But we're not congratulating America
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Speaker 2: or Israel.
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Speaker 5: On.
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Speaker 1: Come on, it's just it's basic. This should not be
23:52
Speaker 1: hard to do. I'll tell you what else was going
23:54
Speaker 1: on in the Senate today. They weren't just refusing to
23:57
Speaker 1: back in the bombing and the killing of the I
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Speaker 1: told her they were going after Pauline Hansen as well. Yes,
24:03
Speaker 1: they're still carrying on about the comments that Pauline Hansen made,
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Speaker 1: of course to Sharry Maxon here on scar News nearly
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Speaker 1: two weeks ago.
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Speaker 10: Now you know you say, oh, well there's good Muslims
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Speaker 10: out there.
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry, how can you?
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Speaker 6: How can you know?
24:20
Speaker 1: Tell me there are good Muslims? And of course that
24:23
Speaker 1: comment was then taken wildly out of context and people
24:26
Speaker 1: made hay while the political sun was shining for days
24:29
Speaker 1: and days and days, and two weeks later, with Parliament
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Speaker 1: sitting again, Penny Wong has decided to have another shot.
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Speaker 1: She put up a motion to censure Senator Hansen for
24:39
Speaker 1: these comments, and it got up and the.
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Speaker 10: People out there will actually judge one nation.
24:47
Speaker 1: And my amens, let the people judge me.
24:51
Speaker 10: I'm not going to be judged by by you. Ad
24:55
Speaker 10: you're happy there.
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Speaker 1: That was Senator Hanson's response to this motion, which is
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Speaker 1: quite extreme. I mean sense emotions are normally reserved for
25:08
Speaker 1: pretty serious problems, transgressions. Pauline Hansen made a reasonably innocuous
25:17
Speaker 1: comment that yes, a lot of people have tried to
25:19
Speaker 1: make into something, but to use it in this manner,
25:23
Speaker 1: the censor of the Senate in this matter, to tell
25:25
Speaker 1: will basically you've said the wrong thing. I think was
25:28
Speaker 1: highly inappropriate, and I think it was really a miscalculation
25:33
Speaker 1: on Labour's part of what all of this means. Because
25:37
Speaker 1: I talked to Fair a bit last week about it.
25:39
Speaker 1: I've got to call them up tonight on news dot
25:41
Speaker 1: com dot are you about it? Which is that the
25:43
Speaker 1: more they attack One Nation and Pauline Hanson and try
25:49
Speaker 1: to go back to saying, oh, you're racist and all
25:51
Speaker 1: this sort of stuff, all it does is fire people
25:53
Speaker 1: up and make them say, well, if you're coming after
25:56
Speaker 1: her and she's standing up for me, then it means
25:59
Speaker 1: you're coming after me as well. And he just galvanizes
26:03
Speaker 1: the support for One Nation. They think, seemingly that these
26:06
Speaker 1: sort of stunts will, you know, discredit Pauline Hanson. I
26:10
Speaker 1: think it's doing these act opposite. Well.
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Speaker 3: Lyda Thorpe not that many people put much stock in
26:14
Speaker 3: anything she.
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Speaker 2: Says, but she described Pauline Hanson's supporters in the Senate
26:18
Speaker 2: today as filth. So you know, things like that are
26:22
Speaker 2: not going to hurt Pauline Hanson. The more they denigrate
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Speaker 2: her and her supporters, the more her polls grow. But
26:29
Speaker 2: I thought it was incredibly cynical by Penny Wong.
26:32
Speaker 3: This motion that she put up.
26:33
Speaker 2: I mean, here's what she asked senators to agree to,
26:36
Speaker 2: and talk about wasting valuable time in the Senate. She
26:40
Speaker 2: asked senators to agree that Australia is built by people
26:43
Speaker 2: of all faiths, that Australians of all faiths are valued,
26:48
Speaker 2: that we reject any attempt to vilify people on the
26:51
Speaker 2: basis of their faith. That Parliament should be a safe
26:53
Speaker 2: place for people of all faiths. And then she added
26:56
Speaker 2: on the end of that, and that Pauline Hanson should
26:58
Speaker 2: be censured her comments vilifying Muslim So the whole thing
27:03
Speaker 2: was set up. I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree,
27:06
Speaker 2: And then you get to the Pauline Hanson bit. And
27:08
Speaker 2: how can you not censure Pauline Hanson if you are
27:11
Speaker 2: in favor of not vilifying, not being against people of
27:15
Speaker 2: all faiths, et cetera, et cetera. Should point out a
27:17
Speaker 2: couple of Liberals crossed the floor to vote that Pauline
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Speaker 2: Hanson be censured, including former shadow Immigration ministers at Paul Scarr.
27:28
Speaker 3: And Andrew McGlocklin.
27:29
Speaker 2: And the other thing we should point out is that
27:31
Speaker 2: hilariously Marine Feruki and Lydia Thorpe. They argued that the
27:36
Speaker 2: censure motion did not go far enough against Pauline Hanson
27:39
Speaker 2: and that even stronger action should be taken.
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Speaker 3: Can you believe it, well, I can believe that. Of
27:44
Speaker 3: course it's.
27:45
Speaker 4: Deeply inappropriate for the Senate to do this, because it's
27:47
Speaker 4: essentially censuring or saying, we, as an institution of Parliament,
27:53
Speaker 4: of our democracy, condemn you, an elected representative of the people,
27:59
Speaker 4: for express you no doubt your voter is probably knew
28:02
Speaker 4: you held when they voted for you, and one that
28:05
Speaker 4: is also fundamentally political. She didn't commit any breach of process,
28:09
Speaker 4: she didn't commit fraud, she didn't mislead the Parliament or
28:14
Speaker 4: do anything that actually violates the character of our democracy.
28:18
Speaker 4: She simply expressed an opinion which guess what she was
28:21
Speaker 4: actually elected to do as a Senator. And as to
28:25
Speaker 4: the motion itself, saying Australia was built by all faiths
28:29
Speaker 4: and this is a place for all faiths.
28:30
Speaker 6: I mean it's only half true.
28:33
Speaker 4: Australia was overwhelmingly built by people of the Christian faith.
28:38
Speaker 4: The Parliament, the democracy, the free speech you apparently value,
28:42
Speaker 4: the tolerance, well, that really is derived from our Judeo
28:46
Speaker 4: Christian faith and we actually have to defend that against
28:51
Speaker 4: people who want to destroy our way of life. If
28:53
Speaker 4: we are going to defend the very institution you're sitting in.
28:58
Speaker 4: So I would just say this is left wing propagation
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Speaker 4: and through and through and.
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Speaker 2: As Pauline Hanson tried to defend herself, she was continually
29:04
Speaker 2: interrupted by the Greens and by Lydia Thorpe, resulting in
29:08
Speaker 2: this memorable exchange.
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Speaker 11: She's got me bitch, Senator thoughte, do you have a
29:15
Speaker 11: point of order?
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Speaker 5: I do.
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Speaker 1: I just got called a bitch by the racist.
29:23
Speaker 11: I remind senators to use respectful language at all times
29:26
Speaker 11: in the chamber, including when they're not speaking.
29:29
Speaker 2: So and ladies and gentlemen, that's what you get for
29:32
Speaker 2: your money as a taxpayer, that absolute circus in care.
29:35
Speaker 1: I just love that those words are now written into handsard.
29:38
Speaker 1: I just got called a bitch by the racist. I mean,
29:41
Speaker 1: you know what more could you ask?
29:43
Speaker 4: Look, Lydia thought she's nuts, but she does bring me
29:46
Speaker 4: entertainment value.
29:47
Speaker 6: I'm just glad we can laugh at her.
29:49
Speaker 4: Over in the UK, really interesting scene unfolded at a
29:53
Speaker 4: soccer match of all places, between Manchester United and Arsenal
29:58
Speaker 4: the game was paused mid play so that Muslim players
30:02
Speaker 4: could break their Ramanan fast. Signs of this were displayed
30:07
Speaker 4: in the stadium, but have a look at how the
30:10
Speaker 4: crowd reacted.
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Speaker 1: This has been.
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Speaker 8: Agreed with their leads for the City players who are
30:19
Speaker 8: observing hiding to take on the influence.
30:24
Speaker 1: If not agreed leads play I think is aware that
30:27
Speaker 1: there's going to be a stopy.
30:29
Speaker 4: Sorry really showing my lack of UK football novel League
30:33
Speaker 4: Leaves and Manchester City, but I don't know if you
30:36
Speaker 4: heard in the background there the crowd actually booed, which
30:41
Speaker 4: I think says a lot about people's tolerance now for
30:45
Speaker 4: public displays of religion. I mean, it's one thing to
30:51
Speaker 4: practice your faith privately and I don't have an issue
30:54
Speaker 4: with that, but stop stopping a whole soccer match so
30:57
Speaker 4: a couple of players can break a Ramanan fast.
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Speaker 6: It does seem over the time.
31:02
Speaker 2: If your Ramadan fast is that important to you and
31:04
Speaker 2: to Muslims it's very important, well you just don't play
31:08
Speaker 2: soccer on that night if it clashes with you needing
31:11
Speaker 2: to break your fast. Nineteen twenty four Olympics, kayleb, do
31:14
Speaker 2: you remember what happened famously.
31:15
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't there, but yeah, go on.
31:18
Speaker 3: Eric Liddle was.
31:20
Speaker 2: Favorite to win the one hundred meters, but the heats
31:22
Speaker 2: were being run on a Sunday, and so he said,
31:25
Speaker 2: as a Christian, I cannot run on Sunday.
31:27
Speaker 3: That's the Lord's Day.
31:29
Speaker 2: And so he missed out on competing in the one
31:32
Speaker 2: hundred meters, which he was favorite to win, competed in
31:35
Speaker 2: the four hundred, where he was not the favorite and
31:38
Speaker 2: won the race. But that's the way they used to
31:40
Speaker 2: do it. I have my religious convictions. It conflicts with
31:42
Speaker 2: a sporting appointment. Well I can't do both. I'll stick
31:46
Speaker 2: with my religious conviction and I'll give up the gold medal.
31:49
Speaker 2: That's how he handled it. But now I don't blame
31:52
Speaker 2: soccer fans for paying good money at the gate and
31:55
Speaker 2: then having to sit there for whether it's thirty seconds
31:58
Speaker 2: or five minutes, is a bit irrelevant. While people practice
32:01
Speaker 2: their religion during the soccer game, don't play the game precisely.
32:04
Speaker 1: And I was really confused to read comments from the
32:09
Speaker 1: boss of Manchester City saying, well, you know, this is
32:12
Speaker 1: just the modern world. I mean, in the modern world,
32:15
Speaker 1: we've got to be religiously tolerant surely the modern world
32:19
Speaker 1: more than anywhere else. We sort of have a delineation
32:22
Speaker 1: between religion and everything else, and we acknowledge that religion
32:25
Speaker 1: does not rule the world. We are in a secular society. Well,
32:30
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're playing in the UK, actually playing
32:32
Speaker 1: in an officially Christian country, it should be noted. But
32:35
Speaker 1: your religious issues should not then dictate what everyone else
32:39
Speaker 1: has to do.
32:41
Speaker 3: Religion as well, well, correct, I know, but the rules
32:44
Speaker 3: of sport.
32:45
Speaker 1: Should not be dictated by someone's religious beliefs. You want
32:48
Speaker 1: to break your fast, well you either don't play the
32:51
Speaker 1: game or you do it at another time. It seems
32:54
Speaker 1: pretty straightforward to me. But again, it's this sort of
32:57
Speaker 1: you've got to bend the knee, and we've got to say,
33:00
Speaker 1: because it's a foreign religion or foreign culture somehow better
33:04
Speaker 1: than ours, so we'll let them get away with it,
33:06
Speaker 1: when we know in most cases the same would not
33:09
Speaker 1: be afforded to Christians.
33:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, all right, Instagram, I've got it. You've both
33:13
Speaker 2: got it that either of you followed us into Ellen. No,
33:17
Speaker 2: I didn't either, but I followed her tonight just to
33:20
Speaker 2: help her followers along, because she's only got about eighty
33:23
Speaker 2: eight thousand. Mind you, a day ago she had just
33:27
Speaker 2: thirty four thousand, So she grew her Instagram following by
33:31
Speaker 2: more than fifty thousand followers in just one day. I'm
33:35
Speaker 2: going to go to you on this Freyer, because you
33:37
Speaker 2: are the social media expert on the late debate. How
33:40
Speaker 2: do you get fifty thousand followers in one day?
33:42
Speaker 4: It is basically impossible to do unless you've had something
33:45
Speaker 4: go extremely viral. But to get fifty thousand followers in
33:49
Speaker 4: a day, you would probably need a video to get millions,
33:53
Speaker 4: millions and millions of views.
33:54
Speaker 6: It just wouldn't happen.
33:55
Speaker 2: So you're not saying her content is that good, that
33:59
Speaker 2: mesmerizing that people just be flocking to her Instagram account.
34:02
Speaker 4: No, her content is deeply boring, and the trend of
34:07
Speaker 4: her followers has been she gets about maybe ten a day.
34:10
Speaker 4: Fifty thousand out of nowhere is very dissift.
34:12
Speaker 3: Well, well, on her content. Let's have a look at
34:14
Speaker 3: this content that's attracting so many followers.
34:17
Speaker 10: We've announced that Victorians will be able to get both
34:20
Speaker 10: diagnosed and treated for ADHD at their GP. We also
34:25
Speaker 10: too welcomed almost a thousand new doctors to our healthcare system.
34:30
Speaker 10: That means we've now added more than forty thousand healthcare
34:33
Speaker 10: workers to our great public health system. To boost access
34:36
Speaker 10: to our health system even further, we're delivering nine new hospitalities.
34:43
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, it's finished. So clearly you can see people
34:46
Speaker 3: are not going to flock to follow her.
34:48
Speaker 2: So Justinta Ellen's office was asked, how did you get
34:51
Speaker 2: so many followers so fast? Have you purchased them? As
34:55
Speaker 2: Freya said, you can do well. This was the response
34:57
Speaker 2: from Justinta Ellen's spokes person. We believe this is part
35:02
Speaker 2: of a political dirty trick to buy bot followers for
35:05
Speaker 2: our accounts in order to get them suspended. We call
35:08
Speaker 2: on the Liberal Party to categorically rule out any involvement,
35:12
Speaker 2: to which Jess Wilson, the Liberal leader, said, the Premier
35:16
Speaker 2: herself needs to rule out that not a single dollar
35:19
Speaker 2: of taxpayer money went towards buying followers. So this is
35:23
Speaker 2: the state of political argument now in Victoria, Caleb, with
35:27
Speaker 2: all the problems Victoria's got, they're arguing over who's buying
35:30
Speaker 2: bots for whose Instagram account?
35:34
Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing? It's sort of the saying, because you
35:37
Speaker 1: picked it up, you now have to prove that you
35:39
Speaker 1: didn't do. It's kind of the political equivalent of who
35:41
Speaker 1: smelt it, dealt it, you know, That's what they're saying,
35:44
Speaker 1: the fact that you must I mean, for goodness sake,
35:47
Speaker 1: clearly they're bots. I mean, she's not picked up that
35:50
Speaker 1: many followers in one day. Who paid for them? Who knows,
35:53
Speaker 1: But this is what they're fighting about in Victoria. Now
35:56
Speaker 1: all the issues that they can talk about in this
35:58
Speaker 1: state election, and it's how many bot followers the premier
36:02
Speaker 1: has on social media, for goodness.
36:04
Speaker 2: Never a dull moment in Victorian politics. We're going to
36:06
Speaker 2: go to a break. When we come back, we'll look
36:08
Speaker 2: at what's making news tomorrow, including a prominent psychiatrist banned
36:12
Speaker 2: from posting anything on social media about gender affirming care
36:18
Speaker 2: so called.
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Speaker 3: That's coming up next.
36:27
Speaker 2: Okay, let's take a look at what's coming up in
36:29
Speaker 2: tomorrow's newspapers. So you hear the headlines here first and
36:33
Speaker 2: calab as you'd expect, most of them dealing with the
36:36
Speaker 2: conflict in the Middle East.
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Speaker 1: Indeed, we'll run through some of those front pages. The
36:40
Speaker 1: Advertiser tomorrow has burgers to bombs. They note that the
36:44
Speaker 1: president launched the airstrikes on a run hours after leading
36:47
Speaker 1: a takeaway burger diner where he promised hamburgers for all,
36:52
Speaker 1: just not for the eye toler It would seem on
36:54
Speaker 1: the front of the Canberra Times they have wild fire war,
36:59
Speaker 1: of course, noting what is going on over there, and
37:01
Speaker 1: they're talking about the fact that HEZBLA is now getting
37:04
Speaker 1: involved in all of this, and over on the Australian
37:07
Speaker 1: they have double jeopardy for Israel. Israel is fighting around
37:10
Speaker 1: and its proxies on two fronts. After resurgent hez BLA
37:14
Speaker 1: attacked the country's north to avenge the killing of the Ayatoller,
37:17
Speaker 1: with the Jewish State returning fire at targets in Beirut
37:21
Speaker 1: as the war against the Mullers expands across the Middle East.
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Speaker 1: And I'm sure we'll have more to talk about on
37:26
Speaker 1: this Tomorrow night. But another story on the front of
37:30
Speaker 1: Tomorrow's OZ, just to get into some of the other
37:32
Speaker 1: stories that will be floating around tomorrow is doctor silenced
37:35
Speaker 1: on gender. Prominent psychiatrist who has warned of the risks
37:39
Speaker 1: of gender affirming medical treatment for miners has been banned
37:43
Speaker 1: from posting his objections on social media and had restrictions
37:46
Speaker 1: put on his practice by the National Health Regulator. Andrew
37:50
Speaker 1: Amos has been ordered by the Medical Board of Australia
37:53
Speaker 1: and the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency to stop making
37:58
Speaker 1: online statements about gin TO issues and is barred from
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Speaker 1: having direct clinical contact with patients doctor Amos's supporters. So
38:06
Speaker 1: the move is a warning to medical professionals who might
38:08
Speaker 1: consider speaking out publicly against gender affirming treatment for miners,
38:12
Speaker 1: and that it represents a gross overreach by regulators in
38:16
Speaker 1: response to complaints by transactivists. This is absolutely extraordinary. I
38:20
Speaker 1: have met doctor Amos. He is a good man. He
38:24
Speaker 1: is an honest man. He is speaking out because he
38:28
Speaker 1: believes the gender affirming care as it has been provided
38:33
Speaker 1: in this country at the moment is wrong or he
38:36
Speaker 1: has misgivings about it. He does not deny the existence
38:40
Speaker 1: of transgender people. He simply has a divergence from some
38:43
Speaker 1: of his colleagues about the best way to treat gender
38:47
Speaker 1: dysphoria and for that for questioning treatment which in other
38:52
Speaker 1: parts of the world they are now readily admitting is wrong,
38:56
Speaker 1: and that they have been too fast, particularly with children,
38:59
Speaker 1: to rush gender affirming care and all of this sort
39:02
Speaker 1: of business. For questioning that he now can't deal with
39:05
Speaker 1: his patients and can't talk publicly about these matters, that
39:08
Speaker 1: is insane.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
39:10
Speaker 2: Well, he made comments including that there's no evidence that
39:15
Speaker 2: trans identity is different to psychosis, that doctors who affirm
39:19
Speaker 2: gender delusions are liable for harm, and he referred to a.
39:26
Speaker 3: I think a.
39:29
Speaker 2: Woman who was identifying as a man as a woman
39:32
Speaker 2: who was pretending to be a man. Without commenting on
39:37
Speaker 2: those views, I think there's a lot of Australians who
39:39
Speaker 2: would share those views, but he is apparently not allowed
39:42
Speaker 2: to say it because saying that is very dangerous. They
39:44
Speaker 2: ruled if a psychiatrist says that, then trans people may
39:48
Speaker 2: harm themselves or not seek help. Because he made some
39:52
Speaker 2: comments on social media that whatever you think of them,
39:55
Speaker 2: many Australians would agree.
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Speaker 4: It's absolutely disgusting that a regulate would come in and
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Speaker 4: block his right to express his view as an Australian
40:06
Speaker 4: citizen and also as a psychiatrist, his professional opinion on
40:11
Speaker 4: something that is a contentious issue that is highly debated,
40:16
Speaker 4: and also the rest of the world is moving against
40:21
Speaker 4: using puberty blockers and gender affirm and care, especially on
40:25
Speaker 4: children and here is one hundred percent right that these
40:28
Speaker 4: doctors will be held liable. Just look at the lawsuits
40:31
Speaker 4: that are starting to happen in the US. It's going
40:33
Speaker 4: to come to Australia and we.
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Speaker 2: Should point out they've shut up one psychiatrist, but they
40:38
Speaker 2: only have to shut up one and a thousand will
40:41
Speaker 2: all self censor because they won't want to have these
40:44
Speaker 2: restrictions put upon their businesses and their livelihoods.
40:47
Speaker 3: So a win for the activists.
40:50
Speaker 1: Indeed, another story on the front of the ODS tomorrow
40:52
Speaker 1: Alan work from home election fight. Small businesses will not
40:56
Speaker 1: be spared from Victorian premieres into Alan's sweeping work from
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Speaker 1: home law, with the state Labor government opting to cast
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Speaker 1: the net wide as it braces for an election year
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Speaker 1: clash with the private sector. Mazellen on Tuesday will confirm
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Speaker 1: that company's turning over less than ten million dollars a year.
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Speaker 1: The Australian Tax Office definition of a small business will
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Speaker 1: be captured under her plan to enshrine a right to
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Speaker 1: work from home three days a week. The decision locks
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Speaker 1: in a confrontation with business groups and workplace legal experts
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Speaker 1: who have branded the policy unworkable economically, risky and beyond
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Speaker 1: the state's legislative reach. It's almost as though she doesn't
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Speaker 1: want any business in her state because of course then
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Speaker 1: it can all be government run. Well, we know they
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Speaker 1: might like that in the socialist Republic of Victoria, but
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Speaker 1: you do actually need some money to be coming through
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Speaker 1: the door for everything to be government run. And they
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Speaker 1: don't know that either.
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Speaker 3: Good news for Queensland. More people moving north.
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Speaker 4: I would say, exactly, why would you have a business
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Speaker 4: in Victoria. That's the question seeking with Victoria. In the
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Speaker 4: Harold Sun tomorrow, the headline is your right to know
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Speaker 4: shock state of suppression. Victorian courts routinely breach transparency laws
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Speaker 4: with impunity and public interest journalism is now at a
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Speaker 4: crisis point. A damning new independent report has found the
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Speaker 4: state's open justice system has been exposed as deeply flawed
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Speaker 4: in an explosive Monash University report released today. With around
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Speaker 4: nine suppression orders granted each week in Victoria, victims say
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Speaker 4: they are being let down by a system that prioritizes
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Speaker 4: the mental health of their attackers over their own.
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Speaker 6: And now it's a basic.
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Speaker 4: Principle in our judicial system that generally speaking, unless there
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Speaker 4: is some serious reason the public should have a right
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Speaker 4: to know what's going on in the courts, who's being
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Speaker 4: sentenced and for what crimes. To have nine suppression orders
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Speaker 4: a week being issued by the Victorian courts, clearly there's
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Speaker 4: something they don't want you to know.
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Speaker 2: I think the he is in the term that he
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Speaker 2: used open justice. If it's not open then it's pretty
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Speaker 2: hard to argue that it's just. The Northern Territory News
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Speaker 2: has an interesting story on its front page tomorrow. Government
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Speaker 2: silent on welfare of Northern Territory girl child bride safety fears,
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Speaker 2: reads the headline.
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Speaker 3: The story says the Northern Territory Government has refused.
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Speaker 2: To provide details around the whereabouts of a girl aged
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Speaker 2: thirteen who was rescued from harm after being promised to
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Speaker 2: a man more than twice her age by her own
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Speaker 2: family six months on. Whether the girl is safe remains unknown.
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Speaker 2: Now that's all we've got on this story. We've only
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Speaker 2: got the front page, so we don't have details as
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Speaker 2: to the circumstances by which the family agreed to give
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Speaker 2: this girl to a man twice her age. I would
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Speaker 2: imagine if the government are silent on the welfare of
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Speaker 2: this girl, it's because they are concerned with maintaining her
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Speaker 2: welfare and are not going to give anything away.
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Speaker 3: Thank God that she was rescued from that situation.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's concidering enough that it happens in
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Speaker 1: the first place. I mean, look, I understand the public
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Speaker 1: interest in wanting to know where this girl is at
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Speaker 1: because it is such a shocking case. I just, I
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Speaker 1: seriously do hope that she is in a safe place
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Speaker 1: and she is no longer at any risk. On the
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Speaker 1: front of the Gold Coast Bulletin tomorrow, Mia threatens not
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Speaker 1: to fly without CEO partners in travel.
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Speaker 3: My good.
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Speaker 1: This story has been going on for a couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks now over on the Gold Coast. Gold Coast Meyor
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Speaker 1: Tom Tait says traveling with his right hand man, CEO,
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Speaker 1: Tim Baker, is critical to delivering game changing projects for
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Speaker 1: the city, despite criticism the pair shouldn't be approving each
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Speaker 1: other's trips. Councilor Brooke Patterson, who is also the governance chair,
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Speaker 1: called for full transparency on Rape Bay funded travel after
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Speaker 1: it was revealed the council staff had spent three hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty grand on overseas travel. A bulletin investigation earlier
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Speaker 1: revealed mister Baker and mister Tate have each been signing
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Speaker 1: off on each other's trips, which you know, I think
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Speaker 1: we talked about this when they did the story, which
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Speaker 1: is a cozy little deel. You can go Sarah and
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Speaker 1: you can go sir. Now they're saying they must go together.
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Speaker 1: There's no way they can do business if they don't
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Speaker 1: travel together. I mean, if I knew in order to
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Speaker 1: get boys' trips over the line, all I had to
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Speaker 1: do was become a mayor of a council and then
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Speaker 1: you know, me and my buddies could go away all
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Speaker 1: the time on the taxpayer dime. Our good.
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Speaker 3: It's a pretty sweet arrangement.
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Speaker 4: It's pretty hard to justify the mayor spending all that
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Speaker 4: money on international travel, let alone the mayor saying you
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Speaker 4: couldn't possibly do all that hard work without the CEO
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Speaker 4: as well.
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Speaker 2: All right, when we come back, we've got sharks on
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Speaker 2: roundabouts and crocodiles at Bunning's.
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Speaker 3: That's after the break.
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Speaker 2: Well, as you might be aware, Sidney's had its problems
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Speaker 2: with sharks over the past four or five weeks, but
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Speaker 2: got to the point of ludicrous at the weekend.
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Speaker 4: For Oh, Sydney siders, you better watch out because a
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Speaker 4: shark was spotted. Well, a dead shark turned up in
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Speaker 4: the middle of a roundabout out in Kellyville, twenty kilometers
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Speaker 4: away from the nearest beach, or about an hour's drive. Now,
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Speaker 4: no one knows how it ended up there. I don't
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Speaker 4: want to know what it would have smelt like. But
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Speaker 4: police attended to the scene at around six am this
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Speaker 4: morning and posted on Facebook a very interesting call this
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Speaker 4: morning about a shark sighting.
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Speaker 2: Well, apparently police didn't believe it when someone phoned it in.
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Speaker 2: They just dismissed it.
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Speaker 1: Would you just take just very good thing. Oh there's
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Speaker 1: a shark getting around in Kellyville, in suburban city. You
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Speaker 1: wouldn't believe that, would you.
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Speaker 3: You would not.
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Speaker 1: Well, you used to live up that way, I mean
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Speaker 1: Castle Hill.
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Speaker 3: Kellyville's like the next suburb.
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Speaker 1: Did you see many sharks getting around when you were
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Speaker 1: up there?
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Speaker 3: No, a lot of octopusses, a few eels in roundabouts,
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Speaker 3: but never a shark.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean you might see them in like the
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Speaker 1: front window of a Chinese restaurant. Not the shark, but
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Speaker 1: the octopus or the earlaw something you know. No, No,
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Speaker 1: you don't expect to see a shark, but there you go.
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Speaker 1: Kellyvill is now famous for its sharks on roundabouts. That
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Speaker 1: wasn't the only strange animal sighting over the weekend. Police
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Speaker 1: on Saturday in Newcastle got a strange call, someone reporting
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Speaker 1: a crocodile in a creek behind Bunnings. So the police
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Speaker 1: contacted the local wildlife park who sent Billy Collett down.
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Speaker 2: He spotted the crocodile the next day, jumped into the
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Speaker 2: creek and managed to apprehend it. They believe this crocodile
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Speaker 2: ended up in the creek at Newcastle because it must
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Speaker 2: have been someone's pet, whether legal or illegal, and escaped captivity.
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Speaker 2: Ended up, as I said, in the creek behind bunning
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Speaker 2: So there you go. You can get your sausage at
47:42
Speaker 2: Bunnings along with a crocodile.
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Speaker 1: Well, I bet there were many people who again when
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Speaker 1: they heard this story, they thought it was a croc.
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Speaker 1: But here we are, who's keeping a croc as a
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Speaker 1: pet at home? Like? What do you do? OK, so
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Speaker 1: you've got like a baby croc because that's quite small. Uh,
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Speaker 1: what happens when the thing like grows to full size?
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Speaker 6: But a cross one of those animals. There are some.
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Speaker 4: Fish reptiles keep them in a small Yeah, and I
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Speaker 4: think it might be maybe it's a specific kind of
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Speaker 4: croc where if you do keep it in a small enclosure,
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Speaker 4: it does kind of stay that size.
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Speaker 2: I was going to say, if you're the sort of
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Speaker 2: person who wants a croc as a pet, you're probably
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Speaker 2: not thinking long term.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm always suspicious of those people.
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Speaker 4: If you keep crocs or you keep snakes, weird, just
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Speaker 4: weird rats.
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Speaker 6: No, no, no, well at least they're fluffy.
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Speaker 1: Well, you can feed the rats to the snakes, so
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Speaker 1: they might be something.
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Speaker 3: In that way.
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Speaker 1: Hey, before we go, a nice story out of Adelaide.
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Speaker 1: Of course, it's a nice story out of Adelaid. Community
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Speaker 1: minded people live down there. You see. A chap bought
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Speaker 1: himself a second hand PlayStation three, and when he opened
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Speaker 1: up the disc compartment, he found a DVD in it.
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Speaker 1: So he said, I'll check out what's on this DVD?
48:54
Speaker 1: Turns on the Telly, turns out at someone's holiday snaps,
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Speaker 1: And so he put it up on Facebook to track
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Speaker 1: down the person to whom these holiday snaps belong. And
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Speaker 1: now they have been reunited with their DVD.
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Speaker 3: How good is that and his name is Kyle Good.
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Speaker 1: Kyle Good. Indeed he is a good man by name
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Speaker 1: and by nature.
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Speaker 3: Well done.
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Speaker 2: All right, that's all we've got time for tonight. We
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Speaker 2: appreciate your company stick around. Coming up in just a
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Speaker 2: moment is the Reader Penalty Show.
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Speaker 3: Good night,