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Events Occurred: the backyard · Journey to the Fringe

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From the unexplained to the mundane, come join
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us on a journey to the fringe. Hello and welcome
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to Journey to the Fringe. Legally not responsible
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for anything that happens from listening to our
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show. I think that just goes without saying.
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I think that's a nice start to this episode.
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Yeah. Oh, good. Good. We are your totally absolved
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hosts, Taylor and Chelsea, here today doing a
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Chelsea episode, which I'm now very curious about.
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I think we should just start all the podcasts
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that way from now on. It actually does not relate
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to my podcast at all. I just like that because
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we keep having to bring it up and that just allows
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us to say anything that we want to, I think,
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moving forward. So I quite like it in that matter.
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Anyhow, I got a fun one for you today. If I had
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to say it's anything adjacent, which I don't,
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but I wanna. It's Miami Mall adjacent, maybe,
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this time. But this time... Oh, is it a one -off
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encounter? No. Yes. Okay. Yes. It's in Las Vegas,
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and it's in a backyard. And there's actually
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much more to this story than I had originally
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thought. And it sounds like you don't know what
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I'm talking about. It's ringing some bells, and
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I feel like there was a family that was seeing
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multiple UFOs from their backyard. Okay, we have
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to end the podcast now because that's pretty
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much what I was just going to say. Okay. How
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much longer was it going to go? Not much. Anyhow,
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I mean, we're all here anyway. Might as well
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just go over what I came here to say. April 30th,
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2023. There's a fireball that's captured on a
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police body cam in Las Vegas, Nevada. It wasn't
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just in Las Vegas, Nevada that this fireball
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comet happened. The American Meteor Society reports
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witnesses see it all across the West, from Northeast
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Utah to Southern California. The sighting of
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the meteor seemingly triggers the events that
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follow. The main witness is a teenager named
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Angel Kenmore, and he calls 911 around 11 .50
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p .m., roughly the same time that a Las Vegas
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police officer reported seeing the fleeting object
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in the sky. They told police they had 10 feet
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tall aliens in their backyard. Okay, what's going
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on over there? Okay, lady. Me, my dad, and my
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brother, we're working on a truck in our backyard,
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and we have a big lot outside, right? Correct?
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Okay. We were working, and we just see in a corner
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of our eye something fall down from the sky,
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and it was with light, and when it hit down,
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it was like a big impact, and we felt it. We
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felt like an energy, and then we hear like a
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lot of footsteps near us, and then we have a
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big equipment, and we see, and there's like an
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eight -foot person beside it, and another one's
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inside, and it has big eyes, and it's looking
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at us. And it's still there. Okay, where is this
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on your property? In my backyard. I swear to
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God, this is not a joke. This is actually weird.
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You'd be terrified of it. So there's two people
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or two subjects that are in your backyard? Correct,
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and they're very large. They're like eight foot,
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nine feet, ten foot. I don't know. They look
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like aliens to us. Big eyes. They have big eyes.
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He is very calm for explaining this. And big
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mouth. Yeah. They have shiny eyes. And they're
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not human. They're 100 % not human. 100 % not
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human and he is just like calmly taking them
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to the backyard. know someone's like I would
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yeah like how people respond to a exactly you
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know there's some people that are just like calm
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and collected under pressure and stuff like that
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I wouldn't judge him too much on the fact that
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he's not like freaking out he might be the level
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-headed one of the family so they see this thing
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in the backyard and Kenmore and his family they
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go to investigate the original creature that's
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in the backyard and they go in they're just recording
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the counter and that is the recording that some
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say catch an unexplained motion above a fence
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post in the right of the frame and this movement
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causes the family to flee in terror. Although
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not visible on camera, he described it in a YouTube
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video as a tall, skinny, lengthy creature with
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a gray, greenish color to it. I'm saving some
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of this stuff for after the story. We'll be able
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to see this video in a little bit. I saw that
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Angel did do a podcast and was pretty descriptive
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of the beings. He described them as about 9 -10
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feet tall, incredibly thin, and had greenish
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-gray slimy skin, similar to maybe like a dolphin.
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They had large human eyes, large eyelids, and
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many sharp teeth. He saw it blink. And it had
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a light over its shoulder and its legs bent in
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a way that Angel thought that they might be broken.
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So like unnaturally. Backwards, yeah. Yeah. And
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in another interview, he said it looked similar
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to a reptile. Officers respond to the home. a
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little bit later interviewed the witnesses and
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inspected the yard to look for intruders even
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responding officers were completely spooked by
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this yeah no like the way he was describing what
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he was calmly bringing them into it is freaky
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as hell yeah So the officer says, quote, I'm
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so nervous right now. I have butterflies, bro.
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Saw a shooting star and now these people say
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there's aliens in their backyard. End quote.
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And this is another one. I'm not going to BS
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you guys. One of my partners said they saw something
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fall out of the sky too, he added. One thing
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that stood out to the officers was a circle in
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the soil while they were investigating the backyard.
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In a podcast interview, Angel, the main witness,
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suggested that the circle may have been created
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when the object landed in the yard. Quote, when
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I tried to look at the object, it was all blurry,
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not my vision, just the backyard area. End quote.
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The family then goes on to say that they had
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seen suspicious vehicles with men in black types
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checking out their home. Black vehicles would
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park close by and watch or drive by slowly. Angel
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said on one particular instance there were three
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people inside and they all looked like the same
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person black suit sunglasses bald and they all
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turned and looked at him in unison which turns
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out to be true kind of there's some weird twists
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in the story A retired police officer in response
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to this story comes forward and admits it was
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him on News Nation that he spent days stalking
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out the house to try to figure out what was going
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on. But we also have in conjunction with this
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other very strange things going on. There were
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also reports of cameras being installed on the
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property and drones surveilling the house in
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the backyard. They were being spotted there.
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Angel had witnessed a couple of these drones
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flying over the backyard and the Metro Police
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do come out after they hear these I don't know
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if I want to call it that, but they do come out
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and say that they installed surveillance cameras
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on top of the house, installed May 19th in the
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rear of the house, presumably to watch for intruders.
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And they put out the statement saying as such,
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they say, quote, we offered to put cameras up
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to help ease their concerns of someone coming
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to harass or harm them, end quote. the system
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stayed on the roof for days then two police officers
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show up a couple days later really late at night
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saying they needed to take a look at a few things
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in the backyard metro police actually denied
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that they had ever sent any officers back again
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there's also ring camera footage with weird noises
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on it the main witness angel said it was a neighbor's
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ring cam and captures the ufo crash you do hear
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kind of like a weird noise on it police officially
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do believe this is not a hoax call. A hoax call
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is a crime if done intentionally. There's this
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podcast host named Doug Papa. He's an investigative
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journalist and former undercover cop who mainly
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focuses on police corruption. Sounds like a cool
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guy. And he does early work on this. I don't
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know his reasoning for why he does early work
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on this, but he was involved in it very early
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on, including early interviews with the family.
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And he finds these additional super weird details
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going on with it. The case was originally listed
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as closed after the police visit the family on
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the first night, April 30th. So two more cops
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should not have shown up. And even the Las Vegas
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Metro Police say that they didn't send two additional
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cops. So who these guys were, nobody really knows.
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And during an interview with Papa. Angel receives
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a phone call. He puts it on speakerphone. I actually
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heard this conversation. And Angel is talking
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to someone who's asking for Papa's license plate
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number. And obviously this reporter is asking,
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like, who is that? Who's asking for my license
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plate number? And Angel says it's a reporter.
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It doesn't sit right with Papa, so he eventually
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looks into it. This is a guy with lots of connections,
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obviously, being a former undercover cop who
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looks into police corruption. He finds out that
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it was a counterterrorism detective assigned
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to the Las Vegas Metro Police Department Homeland
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Security Division. Yeah, but that would have
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been, like, federal government then. Yeah, it
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gets, like, super weird, the involvement in this
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case. And remember the security? cameras that
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were installed and the police department was
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like yeah we did that just to watch just to make
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sure they're safe yeah which is a really creepy
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thing to hear Papa looks into that, too, and
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he finds out that they were installed by Technical
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and Surveillance Squad that works for Homeland
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Security, feeding the footage to a Nevada counterterrorism
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center, the Real Time Crime Center. And that's
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where the home of these cameras are, and it's
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where it's feeding the footage to. Another super
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weird detail, right? Yeah. So another one is
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that all the police body cam footage from the
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backyard has all been redacted and nobody's seen
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it. Like it is possibly deleted or changed. There's
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no like record in the system. It's just redacted.
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He also gets another strange detail from Angel
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from before the encounter. Angel says a strange
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woman approached him and his two brothers after
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she had called Angel by name. They're at a gas
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station and she said something is going to happen
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in Vegas. There's going to be 10 foot creatures.
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Take my number so we can pray together. He later
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goes on to say that he lost the number. That's
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just a weird detail that I don't know what to
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do with that. Yeah, it's a red herring in my
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mind. Like just a weird comment. Weird comment
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indeed. So Angel makes a YouTube video and I'm
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going to play it for you right now. It is on
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the longer side, but we haven't been going very
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long. I want him to be able to tell his take
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on it. Okay. Hello, everybody. Welcome to my
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channel. This is my first video. You gotta respect
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the sweater he chose. Yep. I'm trying to explain
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the best of my abilities. This is not a conspiracy
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theory. I'm not making this story out for clout
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or fame. I just want to tell you what happened
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to me and my family. And I know some people are
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not gonna believe this. He does this the whole
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time. I'm not sure why. Each person is different.
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So this is what happened to me. Keep in mind...
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This is midnight and I'm fixing a truck in my
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backyard. At this point, I'm only with my brother
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and I hear something fall from the sky. I turn
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around. The only thing I see is a big light falling
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from the sky. He's moving it forward. And moments
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after, I feel a big impact and a bang. Sort of
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like a big impact fall. And me and my brother
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looked at each other and we were scared. But
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when the impact happened... I'm not saying it's
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a bad thing he's using a script, but that's what
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it is. Like an out -of -body experience. So to
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say when I tried to look at the object, it was
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all blurry. Not my vision, but only the backyard
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area. And I hear thousands of footsteps around
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me, and maybe a couple seconds later, the blurriness
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was gone. And here's the footage of the body,
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the police officer's body cam. And here's the
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object I'm referring to. The light. Here's a
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ring camera video. You can hear the bang. This
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is around the neighborhood. So here's the video.
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Wow, that gets really bright. It looks like maybe
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a motion sensor. So when that happened, the only
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thing I can see in the backyard is a tall creature,
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probably around 8, 10 feet tall, very thin. So
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I called my dad. He went to the backyard, and
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he saw the same creature I saw. He told me to
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go inside the house. At this point, we're all
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freaking out, me and my family. And here's a
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video where we were in the backyard area. You
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cannot see it too good on camera, but it's there.
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Here's a video. This is the alleged video where
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people say they see something. Yeah. Can you
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see my mouse? I'm just gonna... Can you see my
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mouse? Oh yeah, I can see your mouse. See, it's
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supposedly... I don't see shit. Okay. Let me
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see if I can pause it. It's supposedly right
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here. Oh, yeah. I don't see shit. And then someone
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else sees it. Someone else sees something back
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here. No, wait. You know what? Chelsea, can you
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make it full screen and zoom in a bit? I can't
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zoom. Because I almost feel like I can see eyes
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there. Here? Yeah. Some people say it's this
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guy's shadow because there's some sort of flashlight
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from it looks like. Yeah. maybe from the phone,
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they're thinking it's maybe this guy's shadow.
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And you do see it. I've seen replays. You do
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see it kind of move through all of the slats
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here on the fence. Okay. So there's speculation
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it's this. Well, Chelsea, to be fair, the Miami
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alien moved through a ton of stuff and it was
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real. So it can do that. So here's where one
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is, and then someone says they see something
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in this back area. It goes very fast, but I don't
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know if he slows it down or anything in this
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one, but I don't show it again. So just so that
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you're kind of here, let me just... I'll play
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it one more time. Wow, yeah. Moments after the
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video, me and my brother went to go pick up my
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tools. Then my brother calls me. I do love that.
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They're like, sorry, Chelsea, can you pause it
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for a sec? They just kind of went like, shit.
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Yeah, there's a giant 10 foot tall entity back
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there. They might steal our tools, though. We
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gotta go get those things. We gotta go get those
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tools, man. I don't care how dull it is. They're
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gonna steal our tools. Keep in mind, I'm facing
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the forklift, and then I see the alien creature.
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So when I saw it, it was a tall, skinny, lengthy
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creature. He was a gray -greenish color, and
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when I looked at it in the eyes, my body just
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froze. Like the same way, the same experience
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as having sleep paralysis. Keep in mind, I'm
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staring at him and I look at his whole body and
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he has a weird looking feet and a big face and
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eyes and you can see a big mouth. And I could
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hear his loud, deep breathing and I could see
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his stomach moving. He would just stare at me,
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seconds later, I could start moving again. Not
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here. And I start running towards the house.
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He hears it in another area. That's when I call
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911. He says he hears the breathing telepathically.
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Interesting. And I just wanted to add right here
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to Chelsea that I can't tell if he's describing
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because, like, there's two distinct beings he
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could be describing that we've talked about in
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our show. Could be talking about aliens, like,
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very, very easily. Could be talking about...
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crawlers. Especially when he's talking about
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the stomach being so exposed and viewable. And
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the mouth, because when you talk about grey aliens,
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you don't talk about a mouth. The mouth is almost
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not visible. He has so many voicemails. Man,
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he's just so calm. Okay. First of all, his phone's
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at 4%. Second of all, did he... Did he do a screen
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record of his 911 call? I don't know how he did
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that. That was a very weird way to do it. I'm
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waiting for the police to come and you could
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hear footsteps in the backyard area and a loud
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whispering, like you could hear whisperings.
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We were in the living room area and you could
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hear... You could hear footsteps on the roof.
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So we waited a little bit for the police. When
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they arrived, I told them what I saw, and they
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were kind of freaked out. Here's the body cam
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of the officer. And now, it's more than an hour
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after that bright light. Officers meeting up
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with the caller and his family. What did you
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see? It was like a... It was like a big creature.
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A big creature? Yeah, like around 10 feet tall.
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I'm not going to BS you guys. One of my partners
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said they saw something fall out of the sky too,
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so that's why I'm kind of curious. Did you see
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anything land in your backyard? They see like
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a big, that's what they say. They see like a
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big, something with legs. What I saw right now,
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I do believe in it. Police walk into the backyard
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to investigate, but Metro... So they went in
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the backyard and one of the officers pointed
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at the floor and it was a perfect circle. Here's
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a photo of the circle I'm referring to. Keep
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in mind, two officers came in my house and one
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of them started running to his car, driving around
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the neighborhood, asking, passing cars that they
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saw light. What's clear, they're taking this
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call seriously. Hey, this might sound like a
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really dumb question, but did you guys see anything
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fall out of the sky? Asking others what they
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saw. I would normally discount it as nothing.
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However, seeing as one of my partners said they
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saw it too, only reason I'm actually investigating
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any further. goosebumps and freaking out he started
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investigating that he told me his partner she
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saw a light falling from the sky he told me he
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believes me because her partner reported that
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she saw the same light as me now we're walking
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the front yard then the other officer came here
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here's a video of him talking to my family it
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does if those nine foot beings come back don't
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call us all right deal with it yourself that
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i ain't dealing with that so moment before they
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left one of the officers told me if i see the
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thing again to don't call him just shoot him
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and you can hear in the video here's the video
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if those nine foot beings come back don't call
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us all right deal with it yourself that i ain't
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dealing with that so they left and we went inside
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the house and we started praying as we're praying
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you can hear a loud human like scream in the
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backyard this is what happened to me On May 1st,
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2023. I hope you guys kind of understand what
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happened to me. I know it's hard to believe,
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but I saw what I saw. And it's kind of going
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viral. That's why I'm here to explain the story.
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I did an interview with journalist Doc Papa.
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I'm going to put his video in the description.
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I'm going to make a part two of the stuff that
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happened after May 1st. And thank you for watching.
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So that's his recount. He says that if you heard
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him, he said he's going to make a part two. He
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never made a part two. Because the aliens got
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him, right? And his tools. Yeah. Well, you would
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think, but I'm still sharing, right? Hold on.
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Let me end this because I have another one to
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show you because I have an update video on it.
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So this is a year later. Alex, good to see you.
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I have to ask you, what are you making? Because
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there's something really interesting about this.
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And it's that last night it was reported there
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was more strange activity in and around the home.
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What is going on here? So there, they're reenacting
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it there. See? This one? Yeah. detail with me
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during our one -on -one conversation about other
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paranormal activity that's been happening, but
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this time inside of their house. It goes beyond
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just seeing shadows and hearing whispers. These
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are really freaky things that he told me during
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our exclusive conversation. Take a listen. You
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mentioned paranormal activity. What exactly did
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you see? Well, I was in another room. My brother
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called me, and there was an upside -down cross,
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and there was a Jesus statue on it. They ripped
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Jesus out of the room, like across the room,
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and it was floating upside down. Are you saying
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floating in the air? Yeah, like in the air. It
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was floating upside down. What did you do? I
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mean, did you go and pick it up? Did you knock
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it down? No, I didn't do nothing. I was just
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sitting there. I was crazy. I was like, what?
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But how did it come down? It's not still floating
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right now, is it? No, no. It came down. So we
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got closer to it and then it dropped. It fell
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to the ground. A crucifix. Yeah. Floating in
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the air, upside down. The Jesus on the crucifix
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had been ripped off. Yeah. And it was floating.
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And you can say definitively, without lies, that
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that is what you saw. Yes, yes. That's what I
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saw. Okay, and what about the Bible? What did
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you tell me about the Bible? Oh, yeah, the Bible.
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So I was chilling normal. So just a Bible just
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going like this, flipping the pages, flipping
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the pages. But it was, like, steady. Like, it
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wasn't because of the air. It was steady, like
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somebody was holding it. As soon as I got close
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to it, it dropped again. It just dropped again.
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So it's inside your house, not outdoors, no wind.
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No, it's inside, yeah. No wind factor, but the
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pages steadily turning on the Bible. Yeah. And
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you have the same justification for that as well,
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demonic presence? Yeah, I can see demonic presence,
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yeah. The pages of the Bible were moving on their
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own and an actual crucifix hanging upside down?
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Yeah. So, you know, we had a couple of priests
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come over to the house, pray over the house,
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and everything seems to be normal. Are you connecting
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all these things together, everything you saw
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in your backyard to the things you've experienced
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over these past few months? Yeah, yeah, to be
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honest, yeah, I think so. I still don't have
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an explanation of what it is. You know, it's
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still pretty weird. And I have no clue what it
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is. What did the priests say when they actually
25:06
came to your house? They were saying that there
25:09
might be fallen angels, like demons or fallen
25:13
angels, something like that. Fallen angels inside
25:15
your home. Yeah. That was pretty creepy. How
25:19
does it make you feel about living here still?
25:21
Right now, I feel good, you know. It's a lot
25:23
of time, peace came over. But, you know, whatever
25:26
happened on the last year of May, that was pretty
25:31
scary, man. I was pretty traumatized and stuff
25:32
like that. What does that look like to you? You
25:35
said you're traumatized. I don't want to make
25:36
you relive it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is that
25:38
like? It's pretty bad, man. You can't sleep,
25:40
you know. Not to sound like a crybaby, but, you
25:44
know, you cry most of the time when you think
25:46
about it. You get flashbacks. You know, not a
25:49
good experience. With all the paranormal activity
25:52
happening inside your house, are you thinking
25:54
about moving away? Oh, yeah. Soon. Soon I'm going
25:56
to move away from this house, yeah. Everybody
25:58
or just you? Everybody, I think. You guys are
26:01
done with this place? Yeah. What do you say to
26:03
the people who believe that your family just
26:05
made this whole thing up to try to get attention?
26:07
They can believe whatever they want. I'm not
26:09
doing it for fame. If I did it for fame, I would
26:11
be on YouTube and stuff like that, doing more
26:13
videos. But I don't care, guys. I just went on
26:16
TikTok and YouTube, made my story. While we certainly
26:19
have Angel's story to go off of, other people
26:22
here in this neighborhood have also filled in
26:24
some of the gaps and some of the things that
26:25
they found freaky about that night that those
26:27
two unidentified beings were seen by the Kenmore
26:31
family in their backyard. For example, a guy
26:33
who lives just right down the street just saw
26:34
us out here on the side of the road and began
26:36
talking to us. And he remembered that night as
26:39
well. He said that for some bizarre reason, his
26:42
TV all of a sudden stopped working at that time.
26:45
That his surveillance cameras no longer were
26:47
working. LIGHTS WERE SHUTTING OFF. SO PUT ALL
26:50
OF THIS TOGETHER, THE KENMORE SIGHTING, WHAT
26:52
THE NEIGHBORS ARE REPORTING, NOT TO MENTION WHAT
26:54
THOSE LAS VEGAS POLICE OFFICERS SAW ON THOSE
26:56
BODY WARNED CAMERAS, THAT FLASH OF LIGHT STREAK
26:59
ACROSS THE SKY 39 MINUTES BEFORE THAT 911 CALL.
27:02
IT REALLY IS AN UNEXPLAINABLE PHENOMENON HAPPENING
27:05
HERE IN LAS VEGAS. Okay. News Nation. Yeah, just
27:21
as an aside to this, I don't like that News Nation
27:24
is the one covering it, because they're a very
27:26
right -wing group. It'll come back to that in
27:29
a second, too. So, despite... public mockery
27:34
and lack of physical evidence family members
27:37
have continued to maintain in subsequent interviews
27:40
that they genuinely saw tall glowing eyed entities
27:44
in their yard the family gave a handful of interviews
27:48
there's this follow -up and then they went dark
27:51
The story did go viral initially. Obviously,
27:55
there's a follow up a year later. And because
27:57
it went viral, the family was subject to dozens
28:00
of Internet investigators and sightseers showed
28:03
up at their home, leading the family to hire
28:06
a lawyer to issue warnings against trespassers
28:09
and facing severe online skepticism, cyberbullying
28:13
and uninvited visitors. The teenager posted updates
28:16
on social media asking for privacy and stating
28:19
that the pressure force them to move away from
28:22
the home. So that's the story. What do you think?
28:27
There's not a lot of evidence, but they're sticking
28:30
to their story. I mean, it's one of those things
28:34
where it's just like, okay, interesting. But
28:38
it's just a story. I couldn't think one way or
28:42
another at this point because the police say
28:45
like, yeah, they seem like they're telling the
28:47
truth, but that's about as far as it goes but
28:50
i do have to say i just i i'm really taken by
28:54
angel's tone with everything going on yeah yeah
28:59
i touch on it in a second okay so i did go down
29:02
a little bit of a reddit hole this post really
29:07
captured me so i'm going to share it with you
29:09
i didn't really share really anything else from
29:12
reddit oh and i'm gonna read this so on reddit
29:16
thread vegas locals left muscles 8355 shares
29:20
metro responds to question mark is the title
29:24
A co -worker who has a family working at Metro
29:27
related this story to me this morning. Believe
29:29
what you will, Tuesday 2 a .m. northeast Las
29:32
Vegas, a man sitting in his vehicle calls 911
29:35
to report mysterious object with glowing green
29:38
lights in an empty dirt lot. Metro responds and
29:41
officers capture video on body cam and dash cam
29:44
of the stationary object. Approximately eight
29:47
feet tall with glowing green lights, just a few
29:49
minutes later the object lifts off and disappears
29:52
into the sky leaving a perfect cylindrical burn
29:55
spot on the ground as the only evidence. The
29:58
next morning, when the officer submits his report,
30:00
the FBI and the CIA both arrive and take over
30:03
investigation. Dash cam, body cam footage, and
30:06
all reports of the object are expunged from Metro's
30:09
records. Reporting officer is now on paid administrative
30:12
leave. Then there's an update. Precise location
30:16
was Decatur and Tropical Parkway witness reporting
30:20
incident. Homeowner with view of vacant lot from
30:24
his home. I thought that was interesting. Lots
30:37
of people calling BS on the comment, but I thought
30:39
I'd share the comment nonetheless because this
30:41
was shared around the same time that this happened.
30:44
So I thought it was interesting. Most Reddit
30:48
is... believing this story that I came across.
30:52
So you're not going to see much more Reddit on
30:54
this just because it's mostly positive towards
30:58
this being true. So I'm going to share some points
31:02
against this. Social media sleuths have since
31:07
pointed out that the circle that we saw, people
31:12
listening, did not see. It was actually viewable
31:18
on Google Earth for more than a year before the
31:21
incident happened. Ah, okay. So it was there.
31:23
So their house actually backs onto like an empty
31:28
kind of lot. Apparently they rented a house that
31:32
was on like... There was an empty lot behind
31:37
it that belonged to the landlord. So I'm going
31:40
to give him the benefit of the doubt on there.
31:42
Maybe he didn't know it was back there because
31:44
it was on a part of the property that might not
31:47
have been privy to them in that such a way. So
31:51
maybe he never noticed it, something like that.
31:53
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on that
31:55
one. But it was there before proven. Next one
31:59
is, like you said, there's no direct evidence
32:02
of aliens in this encounter at all. Outside of
32:05
the supposed aliens in the video, but yeah. Exactly.
32:08
Like, if I squint to see it, yeah. Like, it's
32:12
not, to me, there's nothing really there. Slow
32:16
it down, whatever. I've seen it. Like, you saw
32:19
they put the alien in there on that last interview
32:21
we watched. There's nothing really there to grasp
32:25
onto. Does it prove it? Absolutely not. But does
32:29
it disprove it a little? The father and the dad
32:33
in a separate interview, they're asked to draw
32:36
the creatures and they both drew very different
32:39
creatures. Yeah. Actually, that's a really interesting
32:42
way to deal with that because they never probably
32:44
discussed what it actually looked like outside
32:46
of those like few things, which aren't descriptors
32:49
of what it looked like. Yeah. So one of them
32:52
drew him with antenna and angel, no antenna on
32:56
there. We can come up with something to also
33:00
give them the benefit of the doubt on this one
33:03
as well. Dark can't quite see it together. And
33:06
remember the aerial school? One of the most credible
33:10
alien witnesses. They all drew different things.
33:13
And Jacques Vallée actually explains it away
33:16
as encounters not being completely physical and
33:20
a portion potentially being a psychological projection.
33:25
So we can give them... the benefit of the doubt
33:27
on this one angel I don't know what to make of
33:32
him at times and throughout he has scattered
33:36
and nonsensical details he's very young as you
33:41
can tell English isn't his first language some
33:45
of the details did change throughout the interviews
33:48
and the order of events changed as well so maybe
33:53
it was just the way you know english not being
33:56
the first language the ring camera footage that
34:00
he kept referring to with the weird sound remember
34:02
you said wow that was bright yeah that footage
34:05
was actually not taken that night oh yeah so
34:10
that comes out as well and then just i think
34:14
you're picking up My last point here against
34:18
it is I think you were picking up on the same
34:21
thing I was picking up on. Like at first glance,
34:24
I'm like, I was going into this thinking it was
34:27
going to be another Miami mall and it was just
34:30
going to be stupid. And I was like, maybe there
34:34
is really something to this. But then I started
34:37
watching Angel talking and I was like, there's
34:41
something really weird about him. And it's just
34:44
a gut. feeling and he's not shaken in the 911
34:47
call the way he's relaying things I like your
34:51
point out about this that he was reading off
34:54
a script and that could be the language thing
34:57
that he wanted to have this well and he wanted
34:59
to make sure his words were right for the story
35:01
yeah I just don't know what to make of him though
35:05
and it's more a gut feeling than anything that
35:08
I can't really have any evidence for that he's
35:11
lying or anything but it was just like there's
35:14
all these weird little details that just don't
35:17
make sense and encounters like this don't always
35:21
necessarily make sense things can happen where
35:24
we're like that doesn't make sense as a human
35:26
but you know for aliens they're like this makes
35:29
total normal sense that a woman at the gas station
35:33
a few days later would be like 10 foot aliens
35:35
are coming here's my number so we can pray so
35:38
i don't know i just and i think you feel the
35:41
same way about him there's just something like
35:43
off Yeah. Yeah. So to end it, the last ending
35:48
thought is the attitude of the UFO community,
35:53
including George Knapp. This is where I got this.
35:56
Not George Knapp. Originally, but just wait till
36:01
what I, I mean, it's going to make sense to you
36:04
when I say this, but I heard George Knapp say
36:07
it first because he was doing some reporting
36:10
on this for a news channel in Las Vegas. And
36:14
then I heard the sentiments repeated in multiple
36:16
places from people within the UFO community.
36:19
So those within the UFO community believe that
36:23
this encounter was planted to distract from David
36:28
Grush unveiling of his account of a non -human
36:31
craft found by the U .S., which is probably...
36:35
I don't know. It seems like the best way to go
36:38
with this because of how nonsensical all of this
36:41
comes together. It could definitely have been
36:43
worse. Yeah. David Grush comes out shortly after
36:48
this, maybe a month after this happens. This
36:51
probably is the best theory because, like, this
36:55
guy that was investigating this and finding that
36:59
Homeland Security was involved in it, like, that's
37:02
actually real. Yeah, that's the weirdest part,
37:06
that there is this weird backstory that doesn't
37:08
make sense with it, with the federal government.
37:12
I can't make sense of it. So they're kind of
37:15
thinking that it was kind of this PSYOP, I don't
37:19
know if that's the right word to use, kind of
37:22
plan to get ahead of David Grush. to discredit
37:26
it a little bit. And it was the same company
37:30
that's the, who was it again that did the reporting?
37:33
News, News Nation. News Nation. News Nation.
37:36
Very, very conservative. They also covered the
37:40
David Grush stuff. Interesting. Like that's who
37:42
he did the interview with. Yeah, he did. Yeah.
37:44
So I just thought it's all kind of very interesting
37:48
stuff in the end. Like, maybe, maybe it was.
37:53
I don't know. I don't know what to make of all
37:55
of this. I don't want to believe this kid. But
37:58
somehow there's all this other weird stuff that's
38:00
involved. Weird, right? Yeah. That's all I got.
38:05
I don't know how to feel about it either. Like,
38:08
looking at it, like, there's nothing to, like,
38:10
fully disprove it. But at the same time, like,
38:12
there's nothing to prove it. Like, it's kind
38:15
of just like, like. I don't believe in the skeptical
38:19
point of view where it's like you have to believe
38:22
the negative until it's proven. I just I have
38:25
always felt you can't believe like it's just
38:29
unknown until it's proven. Yeah. I'll agree with
38:33
that. Yeah. There's some things I just want to
38:36
believe in like Serpo. Oh, for sure. But that's
38:39
for fun. Serpo's for fun. Whereas like I just
38:43
kind of believe like if we can't. prove it or
38:45
we can't disprove it it's just kind of like it's
38:47
a fun story that's where we're at exactly but
38:50
there's something weird going on here and I think
38:54
it's definitely not because it's true and that's
38:58
kind of where that last part I'm like that does
39:02
kind of make it does make sense on the federal
39:05
and like media level where it's coming from yeah
39:09
and then you just have this kid in here like
39:12
making it make less sense so yeah that that's
39:16
the las vegas alien well thank you for explaining
39:20
that because i remember it going down in the
39:23
ufo community um yeah i don't i never got this
39:26
whole part of the story so i thought it was fun
39:30
i'm not left one way or the other i don't think
39:33
i think i'm just kind of left confused yeah It's
39:36
kind of one of those wait and see with the actual
39:39
people providing the story. Sorry, I just had
39:43
to say too, I find it really weird that Angel's
39:46
the only one providing the story. And I get that
39:49
it's likely he's the only one who speaks good
39:52
enough English that he wants to give the story.
39:54
But at the same time too, then there should be
39:56
Spanish versions of the story. And it could have
39:59
just been that they didn't want to. I mean, you
40:02
know, sometimes immigrant families, that's how
40:05
they get... with, you know, you have the kid
40:08
that speaks English. Well, it's the kid that
40:10
speaks English and also they don't want to be
40:12
known either. Yeah, it could very well be that.
40:15
He's a spokesperson for the family. No one else
40:17
wants to be in the spotlight about it. Yeah.
40:20
But at the same time too, now that I'm thinking
40:22
about it, this was during the Biden administration.
40:25
So News Nation picking up is interesting. I just
40:30
found the best stuff through News Nation. Fair.
40:34
Yeah, they did a really good job. And it is interesting
40:38
because they did the best clips, which is why
40:40
I use them. Yeah. She did some pretty good interviewing.
40:44
But yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the
40:47
hell to make of this. And I always like when
40:50
the story is better than a TikTok conspiracy.
40:54
But we're at where we're at. We can't do anything
40:56
further. So Chelsea, thank you for looking into
40:59
the story because it's one of those ones that
41:01
I kind of forgot about, but like needed to be
41:03
looked into. Yeah, exactly. And I guess with
41:07
that, I have been Taylor here with Chelsea. We
41:09
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