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Episode 33 Money in the Bank 2023 Fall out!!!!!! · Podcast Championship Wrestling

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Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the Least Requested, Least Demanded, and the
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Least Downloaded Wrestling Podcast pc W. This could be a long podcast, so
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strapping and shut up and don't be a little bit about it. The masters
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whoa no together London. Good to see you again, old friend. It's
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been quite some time, hasn't it. Well things are about to get really
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interesting. You see. This is a high stakes, high risk, high
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reward situation we have here, and as they say, carr is money.
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So I suppose we ought to get to Itay, Gaily climb the ladder,
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wrap the briefcase, decide a championship opportunity. But he I got just what
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an incredible field of talent all Vince or a life altering opportunity. I'm gonna
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take your moment, your title. I'm gonna take it all. You're just
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a deadbeat dad. These sheep shots have proven to be affective. That disrespect
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will not sit well. Acknowledge me. This is my w one of the
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greatest champions ever. I'm the tribal chief around here. You embarrassed me,
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my raged out. You have gone crazy. We're still the ones right,
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No, so guess what You're out and I'm out too. Free paths to
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be shaping. Oh my god, I stand you who wants it most?
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Change your life? Forever is money in the bank, Life, liberty,
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the pursuit of happiness. We hold these truths to be self evident. To
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party Tonight, we celebrate the fourth of July like only w W. We
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can. So get ready for the big time. Magid breath, grab your
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best broke, and prepare to live for the moment. Margat's got a ya
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always love what Tonight? We burn it down? Tonight we break the back.
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You guys love me. I get it tonight. You don't what I'm
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miss the est of Holidays. The fourth of July edition of Monday Night Raw.
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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of Allie. Just welcome
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to another episode of pc W podcast Championship Wrestling. I am your host Wayne.
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You also know me a semi dried chicken. You know this is a
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very special edition. We're gonna be doing this on the July fourth edition of
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PCW. This will be happening during Monday Night Rawl. I thought i'd dig
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up that promo from last year, so we'll be watching Monday Night Raw as
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we're talking about money in the bank that took place in London on Saturday,
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and I am not alone. Let me introduce my co stars. Drey welcome
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back. You you what it do? Pc W crew? Alright an all
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left hand man do Oh it's me. It's me. It's the doyl E
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and uh yeah, we're here on a July fourth eve. Uh it's a
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great time I think to sit back, you know and reflect and uh think
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about all the folks out there that don't know it's there. Last night with
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ten fingers, Yeah it isn't that the truth? I uh you know,
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side note, I would I had the grill out yesterday. Uh, no
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fireworks involved. But I did burn some arm hair off, you know,
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putting some light and the grill that. But you know what though, if
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I didn't burn something, then is it really July fourth? Is it really
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American? You know you have to burn some Yeah, it's just just some
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hair my arm, that's all. Nothing, nothing big. But I did
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create some fireworks in my backyard during that shrewd freedom hairs. I could still
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smell it. Um. Hey, we've had a hell of a weekend so
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far. You know, this pay per view took place, you know,
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on a Saturday afternoon. It was. It wasn't quite like the last one
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we had where it was like one. This one was around three on the
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East coast. So I kind of enjoyed it, you know, being in
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the afternoon. I hope I don't get spoiled with these afternoon pay per views
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because then you kind of sober up afterwards and then it's like, oh,
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I still got the rest of the rest of the evening to go, so
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Dre, why don't you take the wheel and lead us down the road for
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Money in the Bank in London. Yep, yep, Like you said,
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money in the Bank. This year took place from the O two Arena in
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London, England, and they kicked off this pay per view with the men's
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Money in the Bank ladder match, which saw Butch of the brawling Brutes taking
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on Shinsky Nakamorro versus Santos Escobar of the LWO versus the Judgment Day's own Damian
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Priests versus the Human Arcade Ricochet. That ain't his actual nickname. I just
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made that one up. Versus l A Nights versus mister Privilege himself. Logan
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Paul also made that one up. Overall, I thought this was a great
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match to kick off the show. As you know, everybody involved really brought
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their a game to this match. Between all the spots that we saw,
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the story the little bit of storytelling that we did get in the match with
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everybody you know, jumping Logan Paul to start the match and other points just
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jumping Logan Paul. It's like everybody was against each other to try to win
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that money in the Bank briefcase. But the one thing they were all unified
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in was in whooping Logan Paul's ass and making sure that if nobody else won,
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his ass ain't win. So I appreciated that a little bit in the
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match, and we saw a little spot later on with Logan Paul trying to
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recruit Damian Priest's side, which worked for all of maybe thirty seconds before Damien
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Priests turned on him and punched him dead in the face. Ultimately the final
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winner of the match, the person who retrieved the money money in the Bank
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briefcase was Damian Priests himselves, so he's now known as Senor Money in the
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Bank moving forward. And one of the other big surprises in this match,
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at least kind of a surprise to me was just how over La Knight was
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and which to me has seemingly coming came out of nowhere. So my first
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question to you all, in addition to your thoughts, as always, my
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first question is not so much how, but why is La Knight so over
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with the w W universe, Because I want to propose something to you all,
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a bit of a theory. Yeah, we're not so much theory,
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but just a proposition to y'all. There isn't really much difference right now,
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at least between La Knight and Austin theory, and yet La Knight is way
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more over than Austin theory, despite the fact that I think we can get
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into that, but despite the fact that if you stack their resumes against each
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other within the WWE, Austin theory has much stronger resume. He's a multi
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time US champion, he has a signature ish win over John Cena at WrestleMania.
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He's been involved in some pretty high profile feuds. He's been in some
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significant matches the you know, money, the Elimination Chamber match, and other
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such things. La Knight this time last year was freaking Max Duprix. Yeah,
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oh yeah, and then he just and was going absolutely nowhere, just
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floundering on SmackDown, basically a nobody, and since he switched over to becoming
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La Knight still hasn't had any feuds of note, hasn't had any signature wins
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or anything of note, really has not done anything of true significance prior to
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this money in the Bank match, and yet he is over as fuck.
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So the question to y'all is why, Well, I'll start with you Wayne,
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Okay, Yeah, I mean you want to compare Austin there, that's
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a good comparison with a guy who's been the nicety champion for so long.
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These guys are both heels, uh, you know, and we have different
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verses of heels. We have heels that we truly hate that nobody likes that.
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You know that that every time that person grabs the mic, you just
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you loathe them, right, And and then there's guys that you love to
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hate. And I just think that Ellie Knight just has it. Now.
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There's always these comparisons. People are saying, Oh, he's like the Rock
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or he's like, oh, he's like a stone cold rip off. I'm
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like, okay, but those guys connected with the crowd. Is that why
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we're we're so comparing him to those kind of guys because he has a catchphrase,
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He has a way to second he grabs a microphone to connect with a
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fan. Um, you know, the catchphrase is definitely a big thing.
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Uh. You know, I think even if you're not the best of wrestler,
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but you're really good on the microphone, I feel like you can just
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put the crowd in the palm of your hands. Another guy who I thought
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was very much like that was Zoe More if anybody remembers Enzoe, that guy
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whenever he grabbed the microphone, you know, I was leaning forward in my
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chair because this guy was always interesting on the mic. You know. And
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the way Ellie Knight delivers his promos it is very rock sque it is very
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stone cold esque. He has just the way he delivers it. And it's
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these simple catchphrases and yeah, they may be kind of predictable, but it's
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a kind of catchphrase. Is that he can hold the mic up to the
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air and let the crowd do the rest of that catchphrase. You know,
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Austin Theory doesn't have per se a catchphrase. He doesn't have something that you
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could put on a T shirt that's gonna catch for the next couple of years.
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That's going to you know, relate to his character, you know,
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like The Rock always had something that he would put on a T shirt like
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just bring it, you know, you know he could wear that shirt,
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you know, ten years after he dropped that line or do you smell what
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the Rock is cooking? You know, or like stone cold with what you
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know? And I feel like Lae Knights version of that is going to be
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yeah, uh, you know, he's just he has it and I think
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he's you know, I was upset that he was not the guy to win
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this briefcase, you know, not to come out the winner. But he
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was so over like, you know, every chance he got up close to
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that briefcase, you know, the crowd went nuts and anybody who knocked him
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down from that briefcase, they got booed all the Hellum, you know,
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I'm I'm very glad that Logan Paul wasn't the guy. Uh, you know,
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Damian Priest was kind of a dark horse win for us. Uh,
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you know, we'll discuss that then, but yeah, I just think that
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la Knights going in a different direction. He doesn't need the briefcase, I
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guess I assume they had big plans for him, and if it's to hell,
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maybe he's the one who should have the United States Championship title around his
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waist, I mean him with the title. I mean, maybe it is
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maybe we've been thinking about this all wrong. You know, maybe it's not
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a heavyweight title, maybe it's a mid car title he needs, and maybe
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him slide in taking the United States table from Austin Theory might be what's best.
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I just don't think Austin Theory has the same type of charisma that La
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Knight has. As much as people want to sit there and complain, you
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know, he's just a rip off of the Rock and someone. So those
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are haters. Haters are gonna hate. People are always gonna find something they
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don't like about a wrestler. Tough shit, I'm an La Knight fan.
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So well, to that point about people saying that he does rip off the
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Rock, he did quite literally tell Logan Paul that he could shove something up
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his candy ass and go promo a few weeks before, so I mean it
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ain't completely off base, But uh, Doyle, what are your thoughts on
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the match? And uh, La Knight and his well you know, yeah,
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it's popularity. Uh yeah, all all art borrows from other things,
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right, you know, like you wouldn't have any of the bands we have
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today without the Beatles. Who wouldn't have had anything without Chuck Berry, who
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wouldn't have had you know? Uh so all all you know, imitation is
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the sincereous form of flattery. Uh you know, I jokingly called La Night
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what I figured when I said stone Cole Rock Johnson, I think I called
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him, uh and I think I think he's kind of you know, he's
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he's like a throwback without it being campy, without it being disco inferno,
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you know. Um and I bet you if you could demo out who he's
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most popular with, I would bet it's uh males over third. You know
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that they grew up either either in their teens or you know, uh you
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know, young adolescent's teens or twenties watching Rock and Austin and the Attitude era.
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Uh so, you know, you know all these wrestlers talking about you
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know, using slang words. I don't know what the hell they're talking about.
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I don't know who this bad bunny character is. And uh, La
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Knight is like you know what, I know who this guy is. He's
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got a great theme song, he comes down, he says his catchphrase.
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He's got a pretty basic move set. He's not flipping and flying and uh,
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and I know who this guy is. So I think that maybe part
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of the connection. Um, I guess I have a lot of that in
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my notes for the match, because the first thing I have is La Knight
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might have got a bigger pop than butch Uh, which is pretty crazy,
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right. And speaking of butch Uh, they fucking kept saying hometown. But
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he isn't from London. Wade Barret kept saying it, and Wade Barrett ought
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to know because he isn't from London either. You know, It's like it's
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like saying somebody it's like being in Cleveland and saying somebody from Pittsburgh's in their
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hometown. They're not. They're not that far from each other, but it's
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totally different. That just drove me crazy. They're in the same country,
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Sure, I get that, but it's not hometown anyway. I loved um.
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There was some good, good wrestling logic in this match, which often
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goes out the window and matches like this, like right off the bat everybody's
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on the outside logan Paul kind of trying to sneak in and climb the ladder
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while everybody else is distracted. Like shit like that should happen so much more
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often. Uh. You know, when a champion comes down and says like,
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I'll you know, I have an open contract here, I'll whoever wants
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to come down and sign it gets a match, whenever. People should be
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fighting down the aisle to get to the contract, you know, but it's
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always just one person comes down uncontested. Also, Uh so I like when
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there's you know, of course, and we'll get to it. In the
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women's match, women's match had a lot of bad wrestling logic. Uh um
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oh god. Michael Cole insufferable this fucking pay per view. He's been so
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good recently, especially since especially since Vince uh sort of retired. Uh kind
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of like he sort of blew up in that limit at that time. Uh.
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Fucking Butch pulls out the cricket club and Michael calls, well, what
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is that or a cricket bat? Rather, Michael calls it, what is
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that a club? Like it was just so obviously a written line. Uh.
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And the shilling with the fucking bud light, bod light, body light.
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Oh my lord, um, yeah, Jesus Christ, Um, let's
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see. Uh. I think they learned a cool lesson during the pandemic um.
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And we saw some of it here, a lot of it. A
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lot of it's bloodline stuff. But when we heard uh, I forget who
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mentioned it, uh, Logan Paul and Damian Priest kind of teaming up.
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You heard what they were saying to each other. And I feel like in
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the past you kind of would see wrestler's gesturing or whatever, but you never
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you didn't always hear what they were saying to each other. And I think
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during the pandemic was to start to show us more of that, you know,
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Like an example I think of was one of the one of the most
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famous, I would say, instances of a wrestler talking to another wrestler and
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it being part of the story is I love you, I'm sorry now.
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We didn't hear it. We saw his lips move right, and I think
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in today's day and age, you would have heard it clear as day.
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But I kind of like in matches like this when you kind of hear say
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no, no, no, you put the ladder over there and all do
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this. I kind of like hearing them that. You know, the mini
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team ups you get, even if it's just for a move. Definitely,
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it adds to the storytelling. Yeah, it deepens, you know, your
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connection with the characters a little bit. And I think I think the bloodline
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if used that too, great great uh um, great effect, great effect.
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I loved logan pass uh splashed on the priest on the ladder. Uh.
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It looked fucking brutal, but immediately and this is like, what a
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great crowd. You still suck, You still suck? Uh uh. That
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makes me wonder too, have they modified their ladders to a stink because you
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remember back in the day, ladders used to seemly crumble all the time under
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impact. Yeah. Yeah, stiffer than they haven't here. Yeah, these
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ladders don't give no more like they used to. Yeah. I don't know
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if that's a good thing or a bad thing, because I do recall,
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Yeah, ladders during the matches they would break, uh and then to the
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point where they couldn't even use them anymore. That's why they had so many,
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right, But like they did a couple of spots where they would put
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wrestlers throw them onto ladders, flipped them onto ladders and they wouldn't bend or
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break, And yeah, we would always see like a wooden one maybe that
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would see him break and splint. The only real damage we saw, which
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I thought was a good spot, is when we saw Ricochet and Logan Paul
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flipped outside the ring onto a stack of tables, which I thought was a
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pretty good almost botched it complete almost they almost both paralyzed themselves. It's right,
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that was a near botch. Almost could have went all kinds are bad.
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There was a spot where Ricochet did a four fifty splash off the out
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off the he was on the outside of the ring. He did it into
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a butch and I believe, yeah, Escobar, that they were laying on
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the ladder, which, by the way, that spot where they placed the
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ladder between the ring and the ladder that was in the center. That happened
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during the women's and it's just the way they did it was so I don't
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know, there's the way they set it up. But I was kind of
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like, oh, I kind of see the spot coming. Oh yeah,
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that's blatantly obvious. Um, you know, like that ahead say flip,
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Like there were a lot of production issues with this show, and one of
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them like like they had a terrible camera angle on that that spot, which
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I thought was the best spot of the match. Yeah, and they replayed
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they only replayed it from a different angle once, which wasn't very good,
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And they had that overhead camp like like now it's four shots, there's four
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stuff like that, like why didn't we see that from overhead? You know
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what though that in that in that specific case, I agree with you that
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there were some production issues throughout this pay per view, but in that specific
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case of the four fifty, it was probably for the best that they didn't
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get the right angle on it, because Ricochet, as much as I think
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he was probably the MVP of this match because for multitude of reasons, for
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just the spots that he pulled off and stuff, and even earlier on in
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the match, he actually kind of saved Escobar Bill I think it was either
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Escarbaro Bush, but during the spot where Escobar and Butch had pinned Damian Priest
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in the corner on the ladder and then they both stood on the ladder and
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started wailing on him. The ladder was starting to give under their weight in
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the ropes and you saw Ricochet walk up and like grab santos escbar and pulled
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him down for a lodd of like yo, get off the ladder before you
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fuck yourself up, so like he kind of saved him in that moment,
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and then that's when he kicked Priests in the face. But getting back to
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the splash spot, like I said, it was probably a good thing that
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they didn't catch the good angle because he actually came up just a bit short
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on that, Like, he didn't land that as flush as I think he
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planned. He absolutely did not, because he came from the rope to the
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center of the ring and did a four to fifty in the midst of that.
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That's a lot of distance to cover and quite Frankie propsed to him to
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eat that he even made it to the ladder, I think really only the
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upper half of his body hit the ladder and like his feet probably actually like
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hit the ground. He actually came up store like if you watch some of
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the replays, you can kind of see where his impact wasn't like hen't really
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get all that, So that that's probably one instance where the bad angle made
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the spot look better than it probably actually was. Certainly a possibility. Yeah,
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that that table spot was just fucking ridiculous. You know, I expected
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Logan Paul and Ricochet to get together on something insane. I just didn't expect
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for them to both be going face first through through a table. The ending
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was kind of flat, I thought, especially compared to the women's match.
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Um. Yeah, this this just kind of suffered from triple threat itis to
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me, where like everybody lays on the outside, you know, I complain
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about this all the time. Everybody waits on the outside of the ring for
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the next spot to get set up, and a lot of the spots were
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really cool. It just kind of lacked cohesion. I thought. I thought
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that this was going to be better than it was. That was kind of
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the theme of the night for me. Uh, I thought this was gonna
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be better. Um. You know, of all the all of the three
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guys, I thought Mike win Priest I had was my third choice. I
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don't dislike him or anything, but he's not my favorite either. Uh but
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you know, as they say, the money in the bank story, it's
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just started, you know. Uh, so we'll see what he does with
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it. Um, I would give it. Where did I write to stuff?
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I don't only give it two and three quarter stars. I expected more
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and I didn't get it. I would give this the three stars. Um.
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It definitely wasn't my favorite match of the night, but it was a
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good way to get the crowd going to start the show. The spot that
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there was no glue holding anything together. I didn't feel like and you know
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what they'll like. Um, we've seen Logan Paul in singles matches, and
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we've seen him in the Royal Rumble, and I think he did pretty well
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here working with the other the superstars in this match. Uh, you know,
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I always think are another complicated match to pull off with so many guys,
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so many things going on, finding your spots, making sure you hit
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the right moves, making sure the right person wins the briefcase, and I
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didn't believe it. I think Loco Paul did pretty well in this match.
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You know, it's been in a Rumble too, which is similar, you
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know, and that you have all kinds of other people doing all kinds of
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other things and trying to keep track of all that and when's your turn and
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when's not. You know, outfit wise, I didn't know what was I
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saw his outfit when he came in pres entrance. But Escobar he looked like
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a look, he was about to look like the Hamburglar. He's gonna entire
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match like you look like a raccoon. I thought he looks like the lone
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Ranger. Yeah, that one too, I said that. Uh, butch
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looked like a can of Pats Blue ribbons. A great though, Uh yeah,
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I mean overall decent match, Yeah, yeah, I think it was.
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It was. It was a good way to kick off the show.
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You get the crowd hot, which you know, this crowd was on fire
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pretty much through the entire show, but they definitely showed out for this one.
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Which side, yeah, yeah, and which side? Note American audiences
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take notes. That's how the fuck you sanctions gave knock A. Moore's entrance
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full throated and the whole thing. Don't sit there and run out of damn
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lung capacity after the first damn after the first stanza of it, because you
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ain't got no because your asses out of shaping ship. So let me ask
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you guys something. When Damian priests got that briefcase, did it run through
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your guy's head like, oh wait, might be right he predicted something,
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Because I was like, what if? What if Damon Priest wins it,
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you know, it made me think like, oh shit, sin Valor could
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win the world title here, Like I was kind of thinking it might go
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down that storyline. I was like, it's impossible. Yeah, when whenever,
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whenever money in the bank matches first for the rest of the show,
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you go, oh wait a minute, But in this case, especially with
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the two two so closely length linked. Um, yeah, when Priest won,
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I immediately, I think I texted. I was like, I want
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I totally want Finn to win and then Priest to cash it on him immediately.
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I think I saw when Paul busted his back open. I think it
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was on the table spot. Yeah, that's when it happened. Yeah.
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Um, I withhold my answer to your question until later. Yeah yeah,
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sure, but a prime at him too, right, Yeah, I saw
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that, I saw him. Yeah. Um, any final thoughts on that
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match before we move on? Uh no, I'm good all right. Then
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next match we got was the Women's Tag Team Championship match, featuring Rhonda Rousy
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and Shana Baysler defending their belts against Raquel Rodriguez and Live Morgan. This was
31:15
the match that initially I had to step away from because well, I initially
31:21
had to step away from the pay per view to make a run real quick,
31:23
and this was the match that happened while I was stepped away. I
31:26
came back quite literally as the following match was getting ready to start. So
31:32
I was kind of happy that I missed it initially, but I did have.
31:34
But since then I have gone back and watched it, and the match
31:38
actually wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. It wasn't
31:42
a great match by any means, but for what it was, it was
31:45
a halfway decent match up until we got the surprise finish that came out of
31:52
nowhere of Shana Baysler turning on Ronda Rousy beating her down, leaving her limping
32:00
the ring for Racal Rodriguez to hit her finisher and Live to hit her finisher
32:05
Oblivion and get to win. And we now have new women's tag team champions
32:12
now two times Racl Rodriguez and Live Morgan. Now, I don't know how
32:19
much there is to say about the match itself. I think the bigger deal
32:23
is probably the betrayal of Shana Basler on Rondo Rousy. Now, obviously it
32:31
seemingly came out of nowhere when watching the show live, but since then it's
32:36
come where it has come out that Rondo Rousey's contract is with ww is apparently
32:43
up sometime in the future or sometime soon, and she apparently has a hard
32:49
outdate on her expiring contract, meaning that when her last day is her last
32:55
day. Ain't no renewing, Ain't no, We're gonna come back to the
32:59
table and work this out. Ain't no, I'm doing pro bono stuff?
33:01
Is this it? Last day? Done? And apparently Rhonda wanted her last
33:08
her final feud, or before she was out, she wanted to work a
33:12
program with Shana Basler, And so that's this betrayal that happened at the pay
33:17
perview seems to be the genesis of that, and that seems to be the
33:21
direction that we're probably going to be going moving forward and probably for the remainder
33:25
of Rhonda's tenure with WWE. So, in addition to whatever thoughts you all
33:31
have on the match, I want to ask you all this question, can
33:36
a feud with Ronda Rousy help restore Shana Basler's help restore Shana Basler as a
33:43
top singles competitor like she was known as back in her NXT days, Wayne
33:51
start with you. Yeah, I mean absolutely, Shane's gonna need this one.
33:57
It's definitely elevating here, especially if das on her way out. You
34:00
know it, either you're retiring or you're out. We always say, like,
34:07
go out on your back, put somebody else over, And Shana's going
34:10
to be the right person for Ronda to put over for this match, because
34:15
you know, Ronda is a former women's champion, multiple time women's champion,
34:20
She's beaten the best of the best. She's you know, a former UFC
34:22
champion. She's a she's a legit badassum. I just think that, you
34:30
know, I was thrown off by this. I mean the match was only
34:32
nine minutes. I totally you can see how you can miss it. I
34:36
mean, you go to the bathroom and take a nice long dukie, you're
34:37
gonna miss this match. The match itself wasn't all that great. I don't
34:44
think any of us really predicted that the titles were gonna go back to Living
34:49
and Raquel. I guess that WWE had longer plans with them running with the
34:54
titles. So you know, let you know, Live got injured, She's
34:58
back let's put the titles back, go on and go back to the original
35:00
plan. I originally thought, Hey, Shana Basler and Ronda Rousy, what
35:06
a hell of a tag team. You know, these women can you know,
35:12
run the roster stride and be a very dominant tag team and then the
35:17
group that beats him will be pretty legit. And you know, it didn't
35:22
last long. Didn't last long at all. I mean they kind of got
35:27
it. They kind of got the titles in a shady way to begin with,
35:30
due to an injury. And I think even the Rondo was nursing an
35:34
injury, you know when they originally won the titles. Yeah, yeah,
35:38
I think the original plan was for Ronda and Shana to win the tire titles
35:44
much earlier, but Ronda was injured and hence those plans also had to get
35:49
put on hold in addition to you know, lives the injury postponing, you
35:54
know, putting up Ranch in their plans as well. So, I mean,
36:00
I guess they elevated them a tad bit more as a tag team because
36:04
they beat the NXT Women's Tag Champs. I mean, it didn't seem like
36:07
it was much of a challenge, much of a feud at all. They
36:09
beat them pretty easily, unified those titles that we didn't see them come out
36:14
with them at all. So I guess the NXT women's tag titles are gone.
36:19
Yes, they're retired. And that didn't last very long. H you
36:24
know, Like, like I said, I think this was too soon,
36:29
you know. But if Ronda's on her way out, um you know,
36:32
I think personally, ever since she came back, she hasn't been happy with
36:37
the way the crowd has been taking to her. Um it did. It
36:42
took a long time put the crowd to warm up to Ronda in general.
36:45
I mean to us as fans, you know, the did yeah something something
36:52
never did. It's just like you're an outsider coming into our company and you
36:57
know, jumping in the ring right away with the likes of like Charlotte and
37:00
Nicky Bella and all these other top tier women's you know at the time,
37:05
you know, I don't know, we have always been kind of defensive when
37:07
we have people like that come in, you know, Bad Bunny Logan,
37:10
Paul, anybody who thinks they can just step in the ring and do what
37:16
these these other professional wrestlers do. You know, Ronda has put in her
37:22
time, she definitely has She's definitely has gotten better in the ring over time,
37:27
and still got off on the microphone. I think the biggest mistake they've
37:30
ever done with Ronda is never give her a mouthpiece. You know. I
37:35
think maybe if you put her with if she was gonna be healing, you
37:38
put her with somebody like Paul Haymond, maybe that would have been a good
37:40
combination. But I just think she she just didn't have a good mouthpiece.
37:47
I think that would have been great for her career because she's just awful in
37:52
the mic and Shanna Besler's no better either, Like anytime either of them would
37:55
give a promo, it was cringey. I couldn't watch it this awful.
38:00
Um, you know, live and Raquel could do better promos on the MIC.
38:05
So I will be a little bit more interesting as them as champions.
38:09
As for the feud of Shanna and Ronda, yeah, yeah, Like I
38:14
said, Shanna needs this win the elevator. You know, being in Ronda
38:19
one on one clean would be a big deal for her. And then you
38:22
know, I think after that, just keep the winning coming, Like,
38:28
don't don't start putting her in a losing streak. I don't want to see
38:31
her losing to the likes of like Dana Brook or some shit, you know.
38:36
I want to see Shana just just crushing it. I mean even you
38:39
don't have to keep in the titles scene, just just literally crushed anybody that
38:45
gets put in her path until it leads up to that. But I mean,
38:49
I see this feud happening in SummerSlam, which is so close, and
38:54
I don't Yeah, I don't see Rhonda um resigning. And does anybody know
39:00
what the amma on Ronda's fucking forehead was? It was a sticker? Anybody
39:07
know, because I yes, yes, I absolutely do know. And I
39:12
mentioned some of this other some other examples in in the discord, which,
39:16
by the way, if you're not in the PCW discord, join it.
39:20
But um this people view had a whole lot of people really letting their nerd
39:24
flag fly on this show, which um, I didn't bring it up in
39:30
the well. We didn't have anybody of note in the what you call it
39:35
in the Men's Money in the Bank ladder match, although some people did say
39:38
that Damian Priest that little shout that garbage shoulder thing he had on Apparently some
39:44
people could had that said, that was a bit reminiscent of Skeletor from the
39:47
old he Man thing day and stuff. Um, I haven't taken a good
39:52
look at it to verify. And there's some other people who let their nerd
39:58
flags fly, which I'll mentioned later on when we get to those. But
40:00
in the case of Ronda Rowsy for those who don't know, Ronda Rowsy is
40:06
a huge dragon Ball fan like me. So her outfit that she had on
40:12
was her top was reminiscent, was a homage to the character by the name
40:20
of Vegeta and dragon Ball. It's that same armor that they wear, so
40:24
that's what her top was. And the M on her face was the same
40:28
m that Vegeta had in his uh, modging Vegeta persona, which again I
40:35
know y'all don't know that y'all ain't dragon Ball fans, but trust me,
40:38
everybody who knew dragon Ball knew as soon as they saw that m, They're
40:42
like, oh, oh, she on her modging Vegeta tonight. Cool.
40:45
So that was just Rhonda representing for the nerds out there, So I'm cool
40:50
with that. And oli enough happening on RAW right now is Shana Basler and
40:54
Rondo rousy in the ring. I'm I don't know, I'm kind of I
41:02
kind of want to listen. Yeah, we'll listen for a little bit here.
41:12
Let's just see if they say anything interesting. Oh, there's some feelings
41:47
being felt in this promoto. Okay, talk your ship, Shaana m Shane
42:07
to speaking of the facts. Yeah. Oh, maybe they'll do Los Loser
42:23
Leaves Town or something that would be nice. Well, the Cloud crowd is
42:35
clearly Prochana. All right, Yeah, we're gonna finally see them go at
42:53
it. Mm hmm. Now, Ronda did a very pest yeah, terrible.
43:05
It was trying to put on a sleeper hole your terrible braids flipped her
43:13
over. Yep. So obviously this is clearly setting up a match, probably
43:20
for Summer Slam and if not beyond, because obviously we don't know when Rhonda's
43:25
uh hard out day is. So clearly in this feud, it looks like
43:30
Shana Basler is going to be the face. Oh damn needs of the face
43:35
Okay anyway, Yeah, so clearly there's that Shane is gonna be the face,
43:43
Shana Beasel is gonna be the face in this feud, and Ronda's gonna
43:45
be the heel. So I'm cool with that if this helps get Shana Beseler
43:51
over and gets her, you know, restores hers her status what she once
43:55
was is that, you know, that dangerous threat and that beast of a
44:00
person that she was known for being in NXT. Hell, yeah, I'm
44:02
all for it. And you know what, well, I know we talked
44:07
about it's gonna be a bad promo on the mic. That wasn't that bad
44:12
from Shane's in Yeah, yeah, from Shane's ship. Shane of speaking from
44:16
the heart, she was speaking the facts, you know, spoke about how
44:22
this is a passion for her, spoke about her grind from the top and
44:24
how she didn't just Waltzon like like she said, like about Rhonda didn't Walton
44:30
and just get completely immediately, you know ushered right to the top of the
44:35
women's division. She's had to scratching, claw and grind her way to where
44:38
she's at. Hey, they they might have something some there. At least
44:44
it's a good start. I'll give it that. It's a good start to
44:46
the feud and we'll see where it goes from there and if they can stick
44:50
the landing in the end. So on a side note, I want to
44:52
I want to point out here after that little promo, we got the Alpha
44:59
CA. I mean, they panned the camera on Otis getting he was in
45:04
a headlock from Maxine and uh his chest, his face is just buried in
45:10
her chest. And I was just like, damn, how does Otis always
45:14
get all these good fucking spots? I mean, guys, the funny guys,
45:17
get the chicks, man o. Man if it's not Mandy Rose,
45:22
it's you know, this fucking guy, it's fucking this guy's lucky. Uh
45:29
yeah, could you imagine being told that, like I'm doing what tonight?
45:31
Yeah? Let's practice? Oh yeah? Uh notice? Anyway, Hey,
45:42
any final thoughts on the woman's tag match and this uh budding Shanda Basler Ronda
45:49
Rowsy few. I think we talked about it more than nine minutes talked about
45:54
but yeah, let's move on. What's next? Okay? All right?
45:59
Next? Oh? One final shout out to uh Live Morgan's outfit at the
46:02
show. Yeah, Honestly, if I had to pick out for the night,
46:08
I would probably have given it to Live. I think she had out
46:12
to night all right, But moving on, next matchup, we had the
46:15
Intercontinental Championship with Matt Riddle challenging the defending champion Gunter. This match was to
46:25
me, it was good. It was a good match, but predictable,
46:30
like Riddle didn't get squashed, which that was a good thing. That you
46:34
know, keeps him relevant and keeps him looking like, you know, a
46:38
legitimate competitor in a strong bid Carter on the roster. That's good for him.
46:44
Gunter continued his strong undefeated streak and which has kind of been an underrated
46:51
aspect of his run is that he he's actually I think he is legit undefeated
46:58
on the main roster at least. I don't think he's lost a single match
47:02
yet. I could be wrong about that, but I know he Dams hasn't
47:07
been penned at the very least, so I don't know. But he's continued
47:12
that streak. And despite this match being predictable, Gunther still manashed to show
47:16
a good amount of a ring psychology in terms of through targeting Riddle's ankle throughout
47:22
the entire match, and the finish to me was quite creative in the sense
47:31
of Gunter got the show just pure savagery by literally in the finish he puts
47:42
he puts Riddle in a half crab Riddles about to get to the rope.
47:45
He pulls Riddle back into the ring, flips Riddle over. Riddle is about
47:51
to Riddles trying to fight out, and he's kicking Gunther interface Gunter grabs the
47:55
leg that he's being kicked with, pins into the ground, stands on it,
48:00
rabs the other his other, rills other leg, the injured with the
48:04
injured ankle, and just literally beats the ship out of his ankle, just
48:07
slaps the living ship out of his ankle over and over again, and then
48:12
drops down into an ankle lock, forcing Riddle to tap. Honestly, I
48:15
thought that was a pretty good finish to it all, because when's the last
48:21
time you see somebody just like take a body part and just just beat the
48:23
shit out of it like that with their bare hands, slap the sh out
48:28
of it right, like not a weapon, not a chair, not using
48:31
the turnbuck another like no, I'm just going straight raw dog Gorilla, I'm
48:36
not Gorilla, but Grizzly Bear, paul your ship the death and then put
48:39
you in that ankle lock, chopping and chopping and chopping. He literally just
48:45
slapped his ship like even the crowd reacted to it. When he did it,
48:50
I was like, oh damn, like he never seen that before,
48:54
but again it was predictable. And then go to God to win. And
49:00
then cue the sword sound and the return of Drew McIntyre, who came out
49:07
to a thunderous pop and immediately confronted the champion Gulter in the rain. They
49:14
get to talk us to smack back and forth. Gunter gives him the old
49:19
bloodline mush, to which McIntyre doesn't appreciate that too well, so he hit
49:25
him with the glassgow cliss, the glassglow whatever the fuck that thing is called
49:29
the head Bud got Daddy. He had Buddy dass queue up to Clay Moore
49:36
not laying Gulter out and standing over on with his belt in his hand.
49:40
So obviously it seems like that direction we're heading for SummerSlam Gunter versus Drew McIntyre.
49:49
But let's be real about it, Gueter, is how close to breaking
49:53
the hockey talk man's record a little over two months? Ye? It is?
50:00
Want to hit the whole break it? Yes, right? In other
50:02
words, after summer Slam. And I think we're all of the mindset that
50:08
that's going to happen that they're pretty pretty committed to going to breaking honky tonk
50:17
Man's record. So Drew's head his shot too. I mean recycling opponents now
50:25
exactly, you know, I mean it'll make for a good It'll make for
50:29
a good Summer Slam match, obviously there. You know, even though we
50:32
all pretty sure that Drew ain't gonna win, he's still a top talent in
50:37
the WWE and for Summer Slam. This is the kind of high profile match,
50:42
especially for the Intercontinental title, that you want on a show like Summer
50:46
Slam. So yes, it's a recycled one, but it's still a still
50:51
gonna be a high caliber match that can be a true slobber knocker in a
50:55
slug fest, especially if it's you know, on the level of what we
50:59
got out from uh Gunther and Shamus this feud. There are those were some
51:05
excellent matches we got between those two. But um, so well, do
51:14
all. I'll start with you and get your thoughts on the match. And
51:16
I also want to pose this question to you all. Where does Gunter currently
51:22
rank among the all time intercontinental champions? Oh? Good, one, good
51:30
one? Um okay, let me ruminate on that. While I uh tell
51:37
you what I thought of this match. Um, yeah, this is this
51:39
is where expectation or the weight of expectations started to rear its ugly ahead for
51:45
me. I was really expecting this to be like a Matt classic. Uh,
51:51
and it kind of just existed to set up Drew's return. Um,
51:55
I'll get back to him in a sec. But it's at Yeah, is
52:01
Riddle's ankle injury? Uh? Is that legit or is that storyline? Do
52:06
we know? Um? I believe that was storyline. I don't think it's
52:09
a legit injury, all right, okay, um, because it was just
52:14
like was that just to make him look weak or whatever? Like I don't
52:20
know. H Yeah, I mean I guess that was a story of the
52:23
matches that Riddle wasn't one hundred percent just kind of seemed bland, like just
52:29
should have been on raw kind of match. Yeah. I guess maybe they
52:31
did it so that way Riddle could lose without looking to Week like, yeah,
52:37
let him save a little face with the fact that he was injured in
52:40
the match. I suppose. Yeah, I did. Like you said,
52:43
you said you mentioned like come through his brutality, right, Uh, Like
52:46
I loved him ripping off the tape on the ankle. Uh. You know
52:52
when we did um uh No Mercy two thousand and two, episode thirty one,
52:55
available in the archives. Uh when uh Brock was tearing takers cast off.
53:02
Man, I don't know why that shit gives me the fucking Willie's bandages
53:07
getting ripped off or whatever. Uh that just sends a shivering down my spine.
53:12
Um. And then when you know, yeah, at the end,
53:15
when when Gunther chopping the uh the ankle, I thought that was fun,
53:21
but yeah, this is a fucking disappointing match, I thought, Uh,
53:23
I don't think give this two stars. Uh. It just seemed to set
53:28
up Drew's return another other than that it could have been on I had some
53:35
technical difficulties that I lost my internet. It was rude, but we are
53:39
back. Um, doyl you were you were ran in raving about something and
53:45
then I guess my router fell asleep. What what was it? I think
53:50
we were placing Gunther on the all time yea. Um, it's hard to
53:58
say who's one, two or three. I think he was. I think
54:00
you have to put him in the top three. Uh if um if he
54:05
breaks the record, even even if he doesn't break the record, you know
54:07
at this point, um uh. And you know I haven't put him next
54:12
to Macho, and I would put him next to uh, probably Chris Jericho,
54:17
who has the most Intercontinental Championship rains, which is I think he's like
54:22
eighteen or something absurd like that. So so Jericho is your current goat of
54:28
Intercontinental champions No, that's just my top three in some order. I don't
54:32
know what order if if Gunther. If Gunther breaks the record, it's probably
54:37
hard to keep him out of the one slot. M yeah, yeah,
54:43
um, I don't know exactly where I would place him. I think as
54:47
a stands right now, having not wrote the broken the record, I think
54:51
he's definitely top five right now, even if WW somehow makes the decision to
54:58
not have him break Honkey Talks record. I think Hockey Talk himself has to
55:01
be in the top five. Just saying the record holder, M he was
55:08
awful. He was, but just the simple fact that he's the record holder,
55:14
like he would lose. He would like lose my count out all the
55:16
time and not lose the title. He was such a shit hit, I
55:20
mean he was. He was a great ship. He'll don't get me wrong,
55:22
right, but he's got the right now. He's the current record holder,
55:25
so you got him, you know, right now. That's why I
55:29
said currently Now. Maybe once he doesn't he no longer has that record to
55:34
rely upon, then maybe he'll fall down the rankings. But as a right
55:37
now, as the record holder, he kind of gotta put him in the
55:40
top five. I think obviously Jericho as well. Like I said, Jericho
55:45
Hockey Talk, Um, you probably have to include Jericho only nine times,
55:52
but still the most rains. I still I think um. Scott Hall is
55:59
probably one of the greatest IC champions of all time. He had multiple rains
56:06
and you know, obviously one of the most legendary IC title matches of all
56:10
time with him and Sean. Sean is another person that might be considered as
56:15
one of the all time rates in IC champion. There's another of people,
56:20
I mean the leaders. How about a wrestler that's absolutely perfect, definitely yep,
56:28
Yeah, that's a great one. He's definitely one of the one of
56:31
the one of the top where I don't know if he's top five, but
56:37
you know, you could probably make a strong argument for him too, because
56:39
that's kind of his his biggest claim to fame is his intercontinental title reigns,
56:45
especially since he was never a world champion. So there's a lot of guys
56:49
like that, like, like I said, like him and Razor who never
56:52
got that world title but really made their name off that IC belt. So
56:55
yeah, um, I think Gutter currently out ranks most of them and Will
57:02
I think I'm with you if he Wow, that was a blotch. Sorry,
57:07
Roll caught me off guard. Um if you fucked up? Boy?
57:13
Did she? Anyway? Um? Yeah, once Guinter presumably breaks the record,
57:19
Uh, it's gonna be hard to keep him out of the top two.
57:27
Honestly, I think the only person that you may be able to argue
57:30
against him would be Jericho, and he might even have Jericho beat So yeah.
57:36
So but Wayne, what were your thoughts on this match and where do
57:39
you stand on Gunter's ranking among the all times give Me Intercontinal champions. Yeah,
57:45
this match going into it kind of we kind of all predicted what was
57:50
going to happen here, right, Like Matt Riddle was going to get beat
57:52
maybe not a big of a beat down. He's definitely gonna put on a
57:57
decent match. I mean, it was only like a little over seven minutes,
58:00
the shortest match of the night. Um, you know, seven minutes
58:04
forty five seconds. Another challenger fed to Gunther. You know, a lot
58:09
of slap into the chest. Uh. You know Matt Riddle already went into
58:15
this match with a prior injury. Uh. The guy wrestles, Come on,
58:22
I mean the guy wrestles in underwear. He has no knee pads,
58:25
no, you know, no boots, nothing to protect his ankles, no
58:30
elbow pads, no wrist bands, nothing. He doesn't tape up his fingers,
58:36
he does nothing. So like it is believable that this guy can get
58:38
continuously injured, you know, with no type of protection, which, by
58:44
for the record, like I don't know how anybody can wrestle like that,
58:46
you know, just I couldn't. I couldn't stop thinking about that during this
58:52
match because neither of them had kneepads on. And I'm, oh, my
58:55
god, like like just I couldn't do it, Just like the ring burn
59:00
just in general, just kneel on the floor. It hurts. Even super
59:07
Fly putt knee pads on, even even though he wrestled barefoot. Yeah,
59:12
and even after a while, Russef eventually put shoes on. He eventually got
59:16
boots on after a while. Happy Russe Day by the way to all who
59:22
sell um. You know we needed something fresh, and you know, I
59:30
think it. Drew McIntyre coming back was great. I'm glad to see that
59:35
it looks like he resigned. I mean, obviously if they're gonna be putting
59:37
him on TV, putting him in a feud, which I'm happy about because
59:42
I didn't I didn't want to see this guy. Well about that rumor what
59:45
I've heard in the reports, he actually has not resigned yet. It's just
59:50
that some of the uh Well, Triple A said it in the press conference
59:55
following the pay per view that yeah, he was just deal with stuff.
1:00:00
He was healing and recovering from injuries. That's what he said. Now,
1:00:04
how much of that was true, it was probably part at least partially true.
1:00:07
I'm pretty sure they He also resolved some of whatever issues he may have
1:00:13
had as far as like the creative direction of his character, and I'm pretty
1:00:15
sure that was part of the reason why he was out and him coming back
1:00:20
and being immediately put into a feud with Gunter, it's something to satisfy him.
1:00:24
But as far as him resigning a new deal. I don't think that's
1:00:29
happening yet. And the reports that I've read are that his contract for one
1:00:32
isn't set to expire until next year, and right now he's there's no real
1:00:37
rush on it because they got time on that. So okay, So I
1:00:43
hope that this satisfies him for now. I mean, like you're getting on
1:00:47
TV, You're going to be in a big feud now, Like right away.
1:00:52
I was like, but he lost to Gunther already, even when he
1:00:57
was with Shamus. You know, he's a loss. Uh. You know,
1:01:00
we had a great triple threat match with these guys recently. Um,
1:01:06
but you know what, whatever, I'm all for it. Uh, just
1:01:08
two big dudes slapping me. You know, I can't complain about that.
1:01:14
As for Gunther as the Intercontinal champion as a whole, um. You know,
1:01:19
for me, I can go back to uh, WrestleMania six, when
1:01:24
we had the Ultimate Warrior as Intercontinal Champion versus hul Coogan for for the w
1:01:30
W Championship. You know, uh, matches like that. We had a
1:01:35
Razor Ramone versus Seawan Michaels for the Interconal title in the first ever Ladder Match.
1:01:40
We mentioned mister Perfect. Uh, couple guys who I think we're always
1:01:45
workhorses of that title. Um, God damn motorcycles. Um, the miss
1:01:52
the Misses is definitely a workhorse of that title. Dolph Ziggler Edge. You
1:01:59
know, these are guys who kept the title even an earlier dashing Cody Rhodes
1:02:04
like, these are guys who kept the intercondoun title elevated, still kept it
1:02:08
relevant, changing the title the way it was designed. Maybe you know these
1:02:15
are workhorses of the title. Um. You know Chris Jericho another one,
1:02:22
uh, the Honky Tonk Man. You know, four hundred and fifty four
1:02:25
days. That is incredible. Granted it wasn't the best of the title run
1:02:32
four hundred and fifty four chicken shit title, you know, title run um,
1:02:39
but then he loses the Ultimate Warrior and he's crushed in twenty seven seconds.
1:02:44
At Summer Slam nineteen eighty eight, we also mentioned Macho Man Randy Savage.
1:02:51
Oh yeah, the green the crop always rises to the top, can
1:02:58
you dig it? And let's not forget Brett to hit Man Art. Uh,
1:03:02
you know, these are all fine intercrondal champions. And I think Guther
1:03:07
is gonna be right up in there in the top five for sure. Top
1:03:10
five. Um, he may have not had top tier matches, but he's
1:03:16
definitely had great feuds and you'll be able to go through that list and and
1:03:25
mark off people he's beaten. You know, he's just he's beating them all.
1:03:30
Like we keep saying that they keep running out of feuds for this guy
1:03:35
because the rain general, heeps beating everybody who gets us put in front of
1:03:39
him. So if for a modern day, longest ragining Intercronal champion, he
1:03:47
definitely got to be up there in the top five, if not slowly the
1:03:52
top three. You know, I'm sure when he does lose it, hopefully
1:04:00
it's after September, maybe towards the Entity or maybe a Survivor series could be
1:04:04
a good place for him to lose it. If he does, my concern
1:04:09
is who he loses it too, because that's definitely going to elevate whoever that
1:04:14
is. And I hope that the inter countal title still stays valuable and it
1:04:20
feels important and doesn't fall by the wayside and you know, go to the
1:04:27
title, yes, become I think that's what they're slowly building the US title
1:04:32
is very far behind the intercontal title as is as an importance right now.
1:04:39
But I just think maybe we just have the wrong guy with the United States
1:04:44
title. If we had the right guy, we could be doing a long
1:04:48
title run. But you know, at the end of the day, when
1:04:51
Austin Theory does lose that title, he's going to have that big credit to
1:04:55
his career um and you know, hopefully after this inner kind of title run,
1:05:01
I don't really want to see Guther go back to this title for a
1:05:04
while. I want to see him go right to the top, you know,
1:05:09
go right to the top and don't look back. Oh, we know
1:05:12
that's a you can most be certain if that's happening. Yeah, depending on
1:05:15
when that agree. It depends on, like you said, when he does
1:05:19
eventually lose the title, because I don't think I don't think we're gonna we're
1:05:23
gonna end up in like a title for titles scenario or anything like that where
1:05:27
he, you know, he's fighting for the World Heavyweight Championship while still being
1:05:30
the IC champ. That would although I don't think it's completely off the table
1:05:36
either. Yeah, it might not be completely off the table because like I
1:05:41
said, he does have this quiet undefeated street going, and they may start
1:05:46
to after he breaks the record and they, you know, they promote that
1:05:50
to the ends of the earth. They and if he if he moves into
1:05:55
the main event scene, they may start to mention that a bit more.
1:05:59
How his undefeated streak. So I don't think it's completely off the table,
1:06:02
but they may want to not completely monopolize both their belts into a single fuse.
1:06:10
So I do think it is probably more than likely that there will he
1:06:15
will eventually drop the IC belt. And yeah, like you said, the
1:06:18
question, big question is who who's going to be the person that gets the
1:06:24
honor of being the person chosen to take him down. Who's going to be
1:06:29
that person that does ultimately get to put on their resume. I was the
1:06:34
first one to be Guilter, right, and it's making that title so important
1:06:39
right now. And the title makes the man, and now the man is
1:06:44
also making the title, so it's working both ways, both favors. So
1:06:49
I know it might be drewe Yeah, I mean, and you know what
1:06:54
that might satisfy Drew to to stay. It's like, hey, you know,
1:06:59
woll, We'll let you be the one to be Gunther, right,
1:07:01
no, not not a Summer Slam, because we still want Goonther to break
1:07:04
the record, but exactly, well, yeah, we'll let you all feud
1:07:09
over the course of a few months, and then you may lose the first
1:07:13
match and then maybe win a later match at you know whatever the September pay
1:07:18
per view is, post record breaking or pack okay, payback here, maybe
1:07:25
at Payback or some VOVA series or something. Yeah, yeah, but yeah,
1:07:30
may I propose to to uh two individuals okay one. I don't think
1:07:38
it makes much sense from a wrestling standpoint necessarily, but uh, it would
1:07:44
be it would be one of the few people that people might actually cheer when
1:07:46
Gunta loses. If it was l A Night can finally be Gunther right like,
1:07:54
because because I don't know, like Gunther is so over, Uh,
1:08:00
I'm not sure the person that beats him is gonna get like this huge pop,
1:08:03
you know. Uh so then l A Knight might be a way to
1:08:08
um, I mean maybe a way to ensure there's a pop. But and
1:08:13
I've pitched this guy before. Uh, the longer the title rain goes on,
1:08:17
the longer Biggie's neckcast to get better. And boy would I love to
1:08:24
fucking see Biggie comeback would be the one that beats Gun there. That would
1:08:27
be fucking awesome. The Biggie one that would be awesome. I agree with
1:08:32
you, La Knight. The only problem is wrestling. No, I wasn't
1:08:40
gonna say that, La Knights on s back Den. Yeah, that's I
1:08:44
feel like it would be a good United person to take the United States title
1:08:49
the Survivor Series. You're doing a brand supremacy deal. Yeah, I don't
1:08:55
know. I'm sure they can figure out a way to get there if that's
1:08:59
what they wanted to right now. But it's a little cold in that arena
1:09:04
for Betty Lynch, you know what I mean. Hey, But besides of
1:09:12
smiling, Yeah, but I think they, if anything, they may use
1:09:17
a La Night to help elevate the US title at some point. But we'll
1:09:25
get to that. We'll get to that later down the line. Um,
1:09:29
if we're done with the inter Continental Championship match, then we will move on
1:09:32
to the next match, which was Cody Rose versus Dominique Mysterio. And this
1:09:40
match was to me a waste of time simply because it happened in the most
1:09:49
un eventful way possible. And then the most meaningless way possible. It was.
1:09:59
Yeah, it was just a match. It was just Cody one one
1:10:04
on one. Nothing else happened. And I don't think anybody reasonably thought that
1:10:11
that was what we were going to get when this match was booked. I
1:10:15
think we all pretty much thought that when this match was booked, we were
1:10:19
going to get, if nothing else, almost certainly a brock lessner running to
1:10:26
set up Cody versus brock Part three. That's what we thought we were going
1:10:31
to get last night, or the scenario that I floated that Dom actually gets
1:10:39
a win, possibly due to the result as a result of brock Less was
1:10:43
running, and that we would get Dom, you know, get something that
1:10:47
he could put to his name, to give him a little bit of seriousness,
1:10:51
a little bit of credibility. We ain't get none of that. He
1:10:56
just basically played the cowardly role the whole time and lost and lost badly.
1:11:01
Like the dude took a fucking airplane spin, Like, oh my god,
1:11:08
in the right went in the nineteen eighties, ho Holgan, bullshit was that
1:11:14
fucking airplane spin? You know? Every time I see an airplane spin to
1:11:18
anybody, unless uh, unless it's cizarro Cizarro unless it's cizarre, But like,
1:11:25
aren't you like affecting yourself as well? Like I mean as a kid,
1:11:30
like whenever I would do it like in the pool or a dude to
1:11:32
my younger brother. You know, at the end of the day, I'm
1:11:35
also I'm also hurting myself, you know, like, what the fuck do
1:11:40
you ever have sitting to spin when you were a kid? Oh yeah,
1:11:44
like Jesus Christ, how many brain cells I must have killed doing that yourself?
1:11:48
Oh yeah? But like I took an airplane spin Cody Cutter Crossroads done,
1:11:55
Like I was just blown at the airplane. But I'm like, what's
1:11:58
next? He gonna grab Domond his heads and clobroom together. This match was
1:12:04
just a complete fucking waste of time. Yep. I don't know if I
1:12:10
have no question for this match, There's there's no question, Like, yeah,
1:12:14
it was a rat that what they what they did tonight on Raw by
1:12:17
having Lessner come out and fight Cody. They should have done that ship last
1:12:23
night. And the only thing the reason I can think of that they didn't
1:12:26
do it was either Brock didn't want to go to London or couldn't make it
1:12:30
to London because I have a hard time believing that they really booked that match
1:12:33
with that plan in place, Like, yep, y'all just gonna have this
1:12:38
match and Cody just gonna win. That's it, that's the plan. There's
1:12:42
no way that was their plan. Anyway, y'all have at it. What
1:12:48
any thoughts y'all have? Whoever wants to go first? Like, yeah,
1:12:50
I'll go first? Uh yeah, this match. I thought myself like,
1:12:56
oh, this would be a good match because Cody will help all of dominant,
1:13:00
he'll help put him over, like he'll help put a good fucking match
1:13:04
on. And unfortunately that's not what we got at all. You know.
1:13:11
Side note, Do you guys notice when he came out he had a bunch
1:13:14
of NERF bullets like on his chest like NERF. It looked like NERF ammo.
1:13:19
Uh just like for his outfit. I don't know what the fuck that
1:13:25
was about. He was probably terrified for his life. He spent the night
1:13:28
in the Tower of London. Yeah. I thought for a split second,
1:13:32
Ria shaved the side of her head. I was like, oh no,
1:13:36
but here's just really tight braids. Um. D Ria was the best part
1:13:45
of this fucking match. He looked great. Um uh you know, and
1:13:50
yeah, I'm assuming that's that's what's gotta be with Brock. He didn't want
1:13:54
to fucking come all the way to London because we all suspected possibly Brock interview
1:14:00
earning this match. Right, No, not at all. It was a
1:14:03
very clean wind really really didn't interfere all that much. Um, this would
1:14:11
have been if I would have known this was going to be this kind of
1:14:14
quality of a match, this would have been my bathroom break. Um.
1:14:18
But I kept sitting here hoping for something good to happen, some really good
1:14:24
spot. But instead we got you know, uh, Dominic running half of
1:14:29
the match, and and Cody happened to go after him, you know,
1:14:31
really real chicken shit moves. I was really disappointed with this match. Uh
1:14:41
whatever, well I just got I got. I'm like spent. I got
1:14:47
nothing else to give these fuckers, right yeah, I mean yeah, this
1:14:51
is this is yet another disappointment, you know. And I didn't expect it
1:14:57
to be a fucking classic or anything, but I thought it be entertaining,
1:15:00
you know, and it really he wasn't uh you know, a lot of
1:15:04
dom running away. His fucking offense is just so fucking weak. He look,
1:15:11
it just doesn't look good at all. Uh. You know, he
1:15:14
was never a threat even for a minute from millisecond, not a threat you
1:15:18
know in this match. Um, you know. And the heel heat Dom
1:15:23
is getting is so far and ahead away of where he is in the ring.
1:15:28
Uh. You know, like anybody can get the biggest boon of the
1:15:30
night, you know, but not everybody can get the biggest boon of the
1:15:33
night every night for weeks and months on an end, so you know,
1:15:36
and that's what he's doing. So I believe he is a good performer,
1:15:42
you know, but man, the bottom is gonna fall out sooner rather than
1:15:45
later, you know, if you can't start producing it in the ring more.
1:15:50
Um uh did he skip NXT? He was never in a NXT?
1:15:56
Was he? Who was that? Dom? No? I think he immediately
1:16:00
just debuted alongside the talk about a kid that could have benefited from even even
1:16:04
six eight months you know. Um, you know, you know, Um,
1:16:14
he's just it's just so far his mouth is so uh far ahead of
1:16:18
where his is in ring work, as you know. Um, it's just
1:16:24
it's gonna it's becoming a problem, and I think it's gonna sooner rather than
1:16:29
later. It's gonna start really becoming a big problem. But uh yeah,
1:16:33
I mean no, you're not wrong. Yeah, no, Brock in this
1:16:36
match too much running away, not enough Rhea. It's a two star match
1:16:41
for me. This should have been on Raw, you know. Yeah,
1:16:45
yeah, you're not wrong. I mean, I don't know what there is
1:16:48
for dumb right now. If he's not attached to rear Ripley, Like like
1:16:54
you said, it's pretty clear that he can't stand on his own at this
1:16:59
point. If he can't, if he can't put up a better match than
1:17:02
what we got here, especially with somebody's high profile is on the level of
1:17:08
Cody Rose, not necessarily saying just performance, wives, but just caliber of
1:17:12
star. And he's a good performer. He knows how to work the crowd.
1:17:15
He's getting booed but without even saying anything, you know what I mean,
1:17:19
Like like that is fucking nuclear, fucking heat. Like like, guys,
1:17:25
guys go for forty fifty years in the business and never got reactions like
1:17:30
that, let alone consistently. But in ring work just doesn't air, you
1:17:36
know, like sure, and you got it's something has to give at some
1:17:42
point. Yeah, So do we think it's his in ring work or the
1:17:45
way they're booking him right now. It's probably a little bit of both,
1:17:51
because it's like maybe maybe if they gave him a chance to come off as
1:17:55
more credible in the ring, maybe he actually could have put on a better
1:18:00
match with Cody, But because he had to play the role of the coward.
1:18:04
This offense, like his punches look like shits. Six one nine is
1:18:10
terrible slow, Like I don't think that's bucking, you know, Yeah,
1:18:16
I don't. Honestly, I think he kind of I know why he does
1:18:19
the six one nine because it gets the heal heat from the crowd, but
1:18:23
he should probably drop that from his from his repertoire. Yeah, right,
1:18:28
and just yeah, he needs he definitely needs to kind of, yeah,
1:18:30
work on some moves in his offense or something to improve. Like, but
1:18:35
he's he's in a tough position, I'll say, you know, because his
1:18:40
father is maybe one of the top five ever, certainly top and ever,
1:18:45
you know, and even if he's in the top hundred ever, he's still
1:18:47
gonna be a massively under you know, underperforming compared to with father. So
1:18:56
fucking kid does it's not enough? Yeah, especially given that he especially since
1:19:00
he's not as small as his father, so he doesn't necessarily perform the same
1:19:03
level of luchador moves that would kind of that we associate with Ray. He's
1:19:11
not that type of performers. So he should have hit gass and put on
1:19:15
thirty pounds and just be a bruiser, you know what I mean something,
1:19:18
Stop trying to do the fucking high fly and stuff. I mean, is
1:19:24
gonna follow in their father's foot sets and be great, right like Curtis Axel
1:19:28
or right Michael mcgiluti or whatever his name was, it was not he did
1:19:31
not hit the same stride that his dad, mister perfect did, uh Ted
1:19:38
Dibiosity Junior. Did you know even though his father wasn't a multiple heavyweight champion,
1:19:43
he still didn't hit that popularity like his father, did you know?
1:19:45
Not everybody's gonna do better than their than their father or you know, apparent
1:19:51
before them, like you know, then he got people like Randy Orton who
1:19:56
way beyond succeeded then his father has ever done, you know, But not
1:20:01
everybody's gonna hit that kind of stride, And I don't think it's I think
1:20:05
Dominic is going to be in that list of guys who just can't hold a
1:20:10
candle to his dad. I mean, and obviously a big factor is their
1:20:15
body types are completely different. I mean, Raised has got the body of
1:20:19
a small child, and Dominic's got the body of the mailman. Uh you
1:20:27
know, uh so yeah, I'd almost hate to say it, but I
1:20:31
would think Dom might. I wouldn't want to wish this on nobody, but
1:20:35
dom might benefit from a legit injury. They could just put him out for
1:20:41
a while and while and let him rehab and put some some some gym time
1:20:46
in and let him rethink his character and his his performance in the ring.
1:20:54
Let him come back, you know, maybe bulked up, muscled up,
1:20:57
and yeah, they're stuck. They can't take this off TV right now.
1:21:01
Right. I'm not saying right, I'm not saying. I didn't say a
1:21:03
booking injury. I said a legitimate yeah, yeah, fair enough. Yeah,
1:21:08
he could benefit from a legitimate injury, like if he actually like tore
1:21:12
his acl or something like that and it put him on the shelf for some
1:21:15
months on end. I'm not saying like you no, like we write him
1:21:17
off television. No, I just meant like he could because obviously he's way
1:21:21
too he got way too much heat for him to take off television, and
1:21:25
he's connected with the second hottest group arguably in WW right now in the judgment
1:21:31
day. So yeah, obviously he can't go anywhere, but uh, if
1:21:35
he could, you know, if I say could, but if he were
1:21:40
to suffer a legitimate injury that would put him on the sideline for a while,
1:21:45
that could Loki end up be a blessing in disguise for him? Yeah?
1:21:49
Yeah, at least we got a nice pick me up after this,
1:21:55
mat, Yes we did. Would you like to tell us what happened?
1:21:58
Wayne, Yes, I will. His name is John c Uh. Yeah,
1:22:10
I'm so happy I got that cute up, um yeah, out of
1:22:15
nowhere, y'all. I was shocked that John Cena made it all the way
1:22:19
out to London. Peacemaker himself, Dominic Toronto's brother Jacob made it all the
1:22:25
way out to London. Not brock Listener, No, no, no,
1:22:30
no, no, no, we got His name is John c John Cena
1:22:36
comes all the way to London to talk about why Wrestlemans should be held in
1:22:43
London. Unfortunately, I don't think it will ever happen. You know,
1:22:48
I find WWE wanting to hold a WrestleMania in any other country. I find
1:22:57
that very hard to believe. Um, you know, we can dream,
1:23:00
but I don't think it's gonna happening. All. Yeah, I was like,
1:23:06
that is the question I wanted to post to y'all about John cena surprise
1:23:10
appearance. Good. Yeah, by the way, he may have gotten the
1:23:14
pop of the night because that pop he got when his music hit was huge.
1:23:20
Yeah, Like they had to shot like they had they and I'm pretty
1:23:24
sure they knew it was gonna happen too, because when they cut back from
1:23:26
whatever little video they were running or promos they were running, they cut straight
1:23:30
to a shot of the audience. Yea, his music hit. You saw
1:23:36
everybody stand up. Yeah, the crowd shot up. I brought up to
1:23:43
my girlfriend. I was like, look at John Cena. Now, Like
1:23:47
John Cena has been with this company for so long and then he stepped away
1:23:53
and did some acting and the fact that he can come back and you know
1:23:58
what, there was like eighteen thousand people there. I think it was he
1:24:01
had them in the palm of his hand. When he would talk, they
1:24:04
would shut up. Everybody was quiet. It was very quiet arena. You
1:24:09
know, he had them chanting and everybody was standing, everybody was chanting the
1:24:15
same stuff at the same time. Everybody was in unison, and there's not
1:24:18
many wrestlers who could do that. We actually sung to the song exactly,
1:24:25
and it's just like, you know, sometimes you wonder with a guy like
1:24:30
Sena, like if he's gone for so long, like will fans still love
1:24:34
this guy because we've seen the Rock leave and come back, and people would
1:24:39
kind of boot the Rock because you left us, you know. WrestleMania eighteen
1:24:45
is like one of the times where Rock was supposed to be the good guy
1:24:48
and people kind of turned on the Rock around that time period, you know,
1:24:51
because mister Hollywood, we know, I don't feel like I see why
1:24:57
you would compare the two. But I think also totally different because really walking
1:25:02
around for that long in the first place, Yeah, seeing him was there
1:25:06
forever and Rock has the Rock has come back, But Tina comes back and
1:25:12
comes back and comes back and comes back and comes back. He never stays
1:25:16
away too long. Yeah, he's never had had a long hiatus like the
1:25:20
Rock head for years on it. Yeah, not always make sure he pops
1:25:25
up at least once or twice every year. Yeah, they are analog guess,
1:25:29
but they're also not analog guess at the same time, right, And
1:25:31
he's not putting on matches every time he comes back either, But the fact
1:25:36
is it's like he's keeping the connection there, like, you know, no
1:25:43
no offense seen it, but we meet, you know, like you wouldn't
1:25:45
be who you are if it wasn't for us fans, you know, like,
1:25:48
and he respects that, and like, you know, there were so
1:25:51
many years where I remember John Cena was just being shoved down our throats,
1:25:58
you know, like the super Sena I guess you want to call it.
1:26:02
You know, it's just everything John Cena would be winning. You mean,
1:26:06
he's the sixteen time world champ. And then it was nice to see him
1:26:10
go away for a while because then we started to miss him. But like
1:26:13
I'm at that age now, because I mean I've seen him start his career.
1:26:18
Now we're at the age where we're seeing him wind his career down,
1:26:23
and I just have so much respect for that guy, you know. I
1:26:27
And as much as I sometimes I would hate Sena back then, I have
1:26:31
I swear I must have like ten John Cena shirts in my fucking closet.
1:26:35
Like it looks like a like a pack of fruity pebbles in there, you
1:26:40
know, just just all these colored John Cena shirts from all iterations from the
1:26:45
word life to the hustle, loyalty and respect, you know, just all
1:26:49
of them, all of them. Like I'm just like a big Sena fan.
1:26:54
And also he has a he always comes out with a nice new shirt.
1:26:59
This one was a G I. Joe esque type shirt, which I
1:27:01
really are much so Yeah. Yeah, I was like, oh, is
1:27:04
this hinting towards something? Will we see John Cena in a G I Joe
1:27:11
movie? I don't think so because he was in Bumblebee, but you never
1:27:14
know. Oh, they are kind of rebooting GI Joe universe? Yeah,
1:27:21
yeah, is it Hasbro, Mattel, whoever the fuck it is Hasbro?
1:27:26
Yeah, aren't they supposedly setting up that type of universe. Wasn't there supposedly
1:27:30
some teaser at the end of the latest Transformers movie that kind of teased the
1:27:33
G I. Joe type thing? Yes, yes, yeah, maybe maybe
1:27:40
we'll find out John seen his character from Bumblebee. Maybe he became a Joe.
1:27:45
Yeah yeah, maybe, Um, he didn't have uh, what's this
1:27:49
guy's fucking name? Grayson Waller. Yeah, Jesus, that's how bad it
1:27:56
is, because I'm like, what's his name, uh, you know,
1:27:59
a good spot for him to come out talk some trash seena, you know,
1:28:02
whoop his butt, give him an a m. I heard Waller had
1:28:05
a leggadri a broken leg not too long ago, and I think that's why
1:28:11
he hasn't been in the ring as of late. Like he's just been doing
1:28:15
his talk show, he hasn't been actually wrestling. But you know, looking
1:28:19
at his pants and the way he's been walking, looks like he's fine.
1:28:23
I don't know if he's medically cleared yet, but for the first time yeah,
1:28:29
yeah, right, this is the first piece of physicality we've seen from
1:28:31
him on the main roster exactly. So I hope he's This is a sign
1:28:34
of him being metal clear. I can see him getting in the ring and
1:28:39
wrestling or joining in a faction of some kind something well utifully. Yeah,
1:28:43
it'd be good to see him actually finally do something other than have his segmentum
1:28:47
is Grayson Waller effector yeah? Yeah, I think wonderful though. Yeah.
1:28:53
The segment itself is good, yeah yeah, And it's nice that he has
1:28:58
something like that and he showed that he can make some thing like that work
1:29:00
because that enables him to still be useful even if he's physically unable to perform,
1:29:08
gives him value. Yeah, he reminds me of a young Miss almost
1:29:12
because the miss was the same way Miss. You know, when he got
1:29:15
his first legit injury. Uh, he was able to stay on TV.
1:29:19
He was in a wheelchair. But the fact is he's He's like, I'm
1:29:23
not taking time off. I don't take time off, you know, Grays
1:29:29
and Waller. I see him being that type of heel character. You know,
1:29:31
he's got his own talk show. I see him being a nice shit
1:29:36
heal. But yeah, he's great though he was the crowd gave him a
1:29:42
wacker wacker and he said, I don't have to go, I don't have
1:29:47
to do that or whatever, and the crowd shot the fuck up like that's
1:29:51
some skill to handle that. That's some fucking skill. Yeah. Yeah,
1:29:57
you could tell he's got that. He's got the potential, Lona mic.
1:30:00
But Um, I do have a question that I want to post you all
1:30:02
in regards to this segment. You kind of touched on it a bit earlier.
1:30:05
Wayne. Um. A question is since Cina did float the idea of
1:30:12
WrestleMania London, to which Grayson Waller countered with WrestleMania and Australia. Yeah.
1:30:18
What my questions you all is would you like to see and should the WWE
1:30:25
hold an international WrestleMania at some point? Uh? You know what, I
1:30:31
would like it because I mean we've got a small small taste of it here
1:30:36
of how you know, not going to a place like London for so long
1:30:43
and then coming back and the fans are so eating it up. We see
1:30:46
it every time they go on the world tour, Like how much those fans
1:30:50
eat it up? Because you know they don't they don't get them as much
1:30:53
as we did. We get we get WW in Philly like at least like
1:30:58
four or five times a year. Uh. They might only get it to
1:31:00
London once this year, so I could definitely see it, you know maybe
1:31:05
Uh you know, London, Australia, Canada again, Well they've held in
1:31:11
Canada before. Sure, Um, but are the numbers there? Can they
1:31:17
can they bring in as many fans or is there enough fans to fill a
1:31:23
WrestleMania as type crowd. We're not talking eighteen thousand, we're talking you know,
1:31:30
a hell of a lot more fans. Yeah. Yeah, Like if
1:31:32
like if wrestle Mania was to happen in uh Over in in the UK,
1:31:38
it wouldn't be at the O two Arita, that ship would be at Wimbley
1:31:42
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, honestly, if if they want
1:31:45
to do London, I'm so down for it, uh because I'd rather have
1:31:48
it in London than have it in Saudi Arabia. Valid. Valid, even
1:31:57
though Saudia's could absolutely pony up the money to make it happen there. Nah
1:32:00
nah, I want we will bring it into trucks, right, And I
1:32:08
mean in Canada. Yeah, They've had wrestle meetings in Canada in the past.
1:32:11
Canada might as well be the US. I mean, it's just right
1:32:14
there. Like basically the whole North America market is kind of just one big
1:32:18
market for ww especially with the ties that the WWE has to Canada with so
1:32:24
many Canadian wrestlers that have come through there over there all the years. But
1:32:29
yeah, I would say if they were to have it, a prime the
1:32:31
best candidate at least right now. And there's maybe some recency bias after what
1:32:35
we just saw money at the Bank London, Damn sure made a strong case
1:32:40
for it. It had a damn strong case for hosting it. Just by
1:32:45
the way they they showed out for this pay per view. What do you
1:32:47
think doing well well? First of all, in terms of this announcement,
1:32:51
what a weird announcement, Like, why not wait till you have something to
1:32:56
announce to announce it? You know, it's just by the mind why you
1:33:00
would do this, because if it doesn't happen, they're gonna such assholes,
1:33:04
right, Yeah, And the earliest it could happen would be like three years
1:33:11
from now, I think, right, because WrestleMania forty is spoken for.
1:33:15
I haven't announced forty one yet, but they're in the late stages. They're
1:33:18
gonna announce it any day now. I think they've said Minneapolis. I think
1:33:23
they've promised Nashville WrestleMania because they're supposed to build a new stadium there. You
1:33:30
got teams or not teams, You've got cities like bidding. You know,
1:33:34
we're gonna we'll give you, you know, millions of dollars to have WrestleMania
1:33:39
here because it's that important to their economy. Sure, So it's just it
1:33:43
just I'm not opposed to WrestleMania in London by any means. I fucking love
1:33:47
London. I went over when the Red Sox and Yankees played. I went
1:33:54
to one of those games over in London in twenty nineteen. It was fucking
1:33:58
incredible, awesome, was one of the best sporting events I've ever been to.
1:34:02
Uh So I'm not I'm not opposed to that at all. But if
1:34:08
we're gonna go into nationale, I think the first place they should go was
1:34:11
Mexico City. Uh, it's a it's right there, uh be you know,
1:34:18
huge, huge wrestling market. Obviously you don't have the time zone problems.
1:34:25
Uh. They did Summer Slam in London in Wembley. Yeah, it
1:34:29
was one and ninety two. It was it was Brett and Bulldog. Yeah,
1:34:32
that's why I mentioned that as the as the WrestleMania site, Like,
1:34:35
that's got to be the stadium for because it has the capacity to hold a
1:34:40
wrestle media caliber audience. But I believe I believe that they didn't even not
1:34:44
only was it on tape delay, I think it was like two days later
1:34:46
they showed it in the States. Um, obviously you can't do that in
1:34:53
this day and age. Well, yeah, that it's also limitations. It's
1:34:56
also completely different times. Yeah, now you can't hold them and then not
1:35:00
broadcasting for two to you know, the Miracle on Ice wasn't shown live either,
1:35:04
you know what I mean? Nowadays you couldn't get away with that,
1:35:09
but they could. But I think they could absolutely do it live today and
1:35:13
almost similar to what they did with Money in the Bank. Obviously, maybe
1:35:15
not start at three o'clock East Coast time, but move it up maybe an
1:35:21
hour because this one ran from roalthly about what three o'clock to six six thirty
1:35:27
ish hour time. Yeah, so I love the idea as a viewer on
1:35:31
the East coast bumping up an hour maybe nine o'clock or whatever start time,
1:35:38
if like two and it runs from maybe because obviously Wrestle Maydia itself is more
1:35:41
than just a three hour show. It's usually at this point it's not like
1:35:44
four damn near five hours almost, it seems like. So, you know,
1:35:47
if it starts at two o'clock hour time, which would probably put it
1:35:51
at seven and UK time, because I think I want to say, UK
1:35:58
is like six hours ahead of us roughly, So yeah, if it starts
1:36:03
like two o'clock our time, that's roughly about maybe seven eight is their time.
1:36:08
It kind of all lines up, got there? Yeah, offered silence.
1:36:21
Sorry, uh uh oh, yeah, I'm gonna say just as the
1:36:29
final touch, like, Mexico City actually is a pretty interesting suggestion too,
1:36:32
because yeah, you're right, they do have a huge wrestling audience and uh,
1:36:40
like I said, they dare I know they have the arena. I
1:36:42
know they have a big enough arena with some of the soccer crowds that they
1:36:45
have, that would be that'd be interesting to have a WrestleMania Mexico City.
1:36:49
I don't know if my only my only question about Mexico City is that,
1:36:56
given that it is, would be an almost exclueu of Hispanic crowd, right,
1:37:03
how would that feed in with booking? And in terms of the wrestle
1:37:09
media self, would you be able to put on a pure WrestleMania that doesn't
1:37:15
cater to the crowd, to the Mexican crowd itself. I think the way
1:37:19
in the way that backlash this year clearly cater to the Hispanic crowd. I'll
1:37:28
tell you what you better have, like you know, the LW on the
1:37:30
card and haven't win whatever exactly. That's my that's my thing, Like,
1:37:36
yeah, how would you would you have to shoe horn some stuff in order
1:37:41
to appease the crowd, because you know, doesn't he does that count?
1:37:48
Don't count as much as Damian Priest, you know, like that's the only
1:37:56
my that's my only uh apprehend about Mexico. I'm sure the crowd would love
1:38:02
it, would root for everything and all that as well, But there's gonna
1:38:06
have to be some pandering that would have to take place as well, probably
1:38:12
and depending on how that fell in line with whatever storylines they would have going
1:38:17
at the moment where they have to pivot stuff where they have to shoot horn
1:38:20
stuff to make it happen obviously again where it's y know, years away from
1:38:26
happening, and who knows if it would happen ever, because again it's only
1:38:33
been floated by John Cena, which some may have alluded to. He may
1:38:38
with a bit off script with that, I don't know, but we shall
1:38:43
see. But nevertheless, out there now, say, why would you say
1:38:46
that if there's no definite plan for you know, right, yeah, unless
1:38:51
Sina was in fact going off script, but you know, yeah, nevertheless,
1:38:56
the ideas out there now, Yeah, you can't put that face back
1:39:00
to exactly, you can't. You cannot at all. International WrestleMania is going
1:39:03
to be on people's minds, and I imagine practically every market that they go
1:39:09
to from here on out internationally is probably gonna in some way campaign for them
1:39:14
to be a host of WrestleMania. And maybe that's part of their plan.
1:39:18
Maybe they floated this idea out there to kind of start a bit of a
1:39:23
cold bidding war between their international markets for a WrestleMania. Yeah, whatever,
1:39:30
that's what that's certainly what they have going on here already. You know,
1:39:34
I'm not sure what Philly paid for it, but I'm sure they paid a
1:39:39
pretty penny. But they're gonna get, you know, times however, you
1:39:43
know, Taylor Swift was just here for a weekend and it was it was,
1:39:46
you know, one hundreds of the dollars into the local economy, you
1:39:49
know what I mean. And WrestleMania probably will be bigger than that because they'll
1:39:55
they'll probably they'll be doing SmackDown at Wells five ago, two days of WrestleMania
1:40:00
Monday night rout Wells Fire ago. Maybe they're doing NXD at Wells Fire ago.
1:40:03
But all the other circus that comes into town accompanying wrestle media. Oh
1:40:09
yeah, the press, the fan events, all the there's gonna be a
1:40:14
million indie shows, every every podcast that's gonna have a live show, every
1:40:19
there's gonna be fan fests and access and it's gonna yeah, yeah, it's
1:40:27
it's it's a it's a whole media event. So yeah, any city would
1:40:30
would want that in their in their city because it brings in hundreds of millions
1:40:34
of dollars in the local economy. Yep. And I can and I can
1:40:39
throw out another city that will probably be looking to host a WrestleMania sometime in
1:40:44
the future, and that is the city of Buffalo, New York. And
1:40:48
that is because who else is in Buffalo? The bills, what are the
1:40:54
bills in the current process of doing building a new stadium? You think they
1:40:59
ain't gonna want that WrestleMania net on that thing March and Buffalo and that ain't
1:41:03
gonna happen. Say what I said, They're they're not putting a roof on
1:41:08
that thing though, like late March, early April and Buffalo. What roof
1:41:13
exists on the link? What's that exists on the link? Well, we're
1:41:16
gonna be freezing. We're prediction we will be freezing for nuts off. Yeah,
1:41:26
I ain't saying it's gonna happen, but Buffalo, but WrestleMania Buffalo happened,
1:41:32
but few football Sure, but new football stadiums are prime locations for WrestleMania's
1:41:39
sure about when Jerry World built. When Jerry Jones built at and T Stadium,
1:41:44
he got WrestleMania within like a year or two. So far I built,
1:41:47
they got WrestleMania. But Dallas, Dallas Fort Worth area can handle an
1:41:53
influx of whatever how many hundred a couple hundred thousand people. But I don't
1:41:59
know, Kim Buffalo, Hello, I don't know. Maybe maybe I'm not.
1:42:03
Again, I'm not saying it's going to happen, but I'm saying they're
1:42:08
going to try. Because, like it said, history has shown us when
1:42:13
places get new stadiums, when football, when new football stadiums get built,
1:42:17
the first thing they look to do is book the biggest events they possibly can
1:42:23
because they got to somehow pay for that ship. Yeah, and like like
1:42:29
I mean, I know they the Raiders got their stadium down in Vegas.
1:42:33
I wouldn't right off Vegas as a WrestleMania hosting site at some point in the
1:42:38
future as well. Absolutely, right, So, I mean these international markets
1:42:44
don't have right So, I mean, I know these international markets would love
1:42:47
to have a WrestleMania. They got some billionaire pro football team owners over here
1:42:54
that you got to compete with. They're gonna pully up the cast to try
1:42:58
to get a WrestleMania in their stadium as well. But I think we've talked
1:43:01
about that long enough so we can get back to the rest of the show
1:43:04
and move on to the next match that occurred at Money in the Bank,
1:43:09
and that was the Women's Money in the Bank Ladder match featuring Bailey representing the
1:43:14
judgment day. According to Samantha Irwin, versus EO Sky the World, Yeah,
1:43:23
I picked up one it as soon as she said it, like that
1:43:26
was funny versus Zelina Vega versus Zoe Stark, versus Tristratus versus Becky Lynch And
1:43:34
this match was phenomenal and as should not come to a surprise to anyone,
1:43:43
these women always show out every time they get matches like this. They always
1:43:46
bring it, They always come with it and bring their absolute a game.
1:43:54
This match from start to finish was great. They even managed to tell multiple
1:44:00
stories in the match between Becky and Trish going at it and Becky is zoe
1:44:05
going at it, and we saw the continued breakdown of damage control between Bailey
1:44:11
and EO, with EO getting up to the ladder and almost being there at
1:44:15
the top, and who's the one that pushes her off Bailey and then the
1:44:23
which ultimately led to the finish which was arguably one of the best money and
1:44:29
women's one of the best money in the bank finishes period, where we saw
1:44:35
Becky Lynch on one side, who had been partially handcuffed earlier by Trish and
1:44:42
Zoey who were trying to handcuff her to a rope or something like that to
1:44:45
take her out of the match, which Becky managed to fight off, but
1:44:47
she still had the one she was still halfway in the cuffs and Bailey on
1:44:53
the other side, and EO trying to fight off between two of them and
1:44:59
can't get can't get past either one of them, so she comes up with
1:45:01
the genius idea while Becky and Bailey are fighting in the ladder, snatched that
1:45:09
cuff and cuff them to each other. Leven both stuck in the ladder,
1:45:13
unable to climb up any further, and EO just climbed right on over a
1:45:17
little Bailey took herself up to the top of that letter and retrieved that beef
1:45:21
briefcase to become this money in the bank. That was fucking brilliance. I
1:45:29
loved that finish. And she literally climbed over two and the four horse swimming.
1:45:34
Yeah, and the crowd. You saw how the crowd reacted to it.
1:45:39
They appreciated it. They gave her her flowers for winning. And I
1:45:44
don't have any specific question for this match. I just want to gush over
1:45:46
it because this match was just that damn good. I mean, we got
1:45:49
some dope spots from this one with the code red that Selina Vega, which
1:45:56
another dragon Ball reference by the way, since you were asking about Ronda Rousing
1:46:01
and her the m on her forehead which was from Mago Vegeta. Like I
1:46:05
said, people were letting their nerd flag fly in this show. Selena Vega,
1:46:10
she as she showed on her ig, she was paying homage to Freezer
1:46:15
from Dragon Ball in her outfit. And Becky Lynch when she came out in
1:46:18
her green and yellow I know we spent some time trying to guess who it
1:46:21
was. We thought she might have been doing Phoenix things. We guess some
1:46:28
other characters, but it turns but the one that seemed the most plausible is
1:46:33
that she may have been paying homage to an X Men character by the name
1:46:36
of Siren, who had a green and yellow outfit similar in design to what
1:46:42
Becky Lynch wore. And the character of Siren also is Irish. So yeah,
1:46:47
nerds were out. Nerds were being represented to the fullest on this show,
1:46:53
and I, for one, absolutely appreciated. But I said enough,
1:46:58
you guys, do what your thoughts on this match? Uh? Oh yeah,
1:47:01
I loved it. Uh definitely preferred this over the men's match. I
1:47:06
thought it was an interesting choice to spend so much of the opening uh in
1:47:12
that weird space between the aisle and the ring, Like it was just kind
1:47:16
of strange that they were all there for a couple of minutes to start the
1:47:20
match before anyone really got in the ring. Uh. Some real fun Uh
1:47:27
used to the ladder. Um. Uh, Zelena Vega was between it was
1:47:31
underneath the ladder, and Bailey and EO had each had an arm and they
1:47:35
just pulled her back and forth. That was a spot. Uh. Becky
1:47:41
had Zoe like like with her with her stomach on one of the rings of
1:47:45
the ladder and she's just kicking her, kicking her and kicking her and uh.
1:47:49
Then she put her in the disarmor like through the ladder. That was
1:47:53
cool. Um um Uh. Zelena Vega used tris stratus uh as like a
1:48:00
bridge, as like a bridge to run over her. Um. And that
1:48:04
finished, of course, was fucking amazing. Uh. The one criticism I
1:48:10
really had was that they spent a lot of time setting stuff up. Uh
1:48:15
and commentary even said something about it. Um. But like, unlike I
1:48:18
said in the men's match, this did not suffer from triple threat syndrome.
1:48:24
You know. They did a pretty good job of having multiple things happening and
1:48:27
all at once without it being a total cluster fuck, you know, which
1:48:31
is easy to slip into when you have so much going on at the same
1:48:35
time. Um. And there was, but there was a lot of bad
1:48:40
wrestling logic, unlike in the men's match. Um. Like, there was
1:48:44
a spart where Bailey could have climbed the ladder, but instead she gave Becky
1:48:47
an elbow drop. It's like, why not just climb the ladder there.
1:48:51
It just you know, things like that, Uh, Becky had the handcuff
1:48:57
on her arm, Why wasn't she like wrapping it around her knuckles and bunching
1:49:00
people with it? You know, just didn't didn't make a lot of sense.
1:49:03
But yeah, I definitely like this um more than the men's match.
1:49:09
This is a three and a half stars for me. It went pretty much
1:49:13
almost exactly how I expected it was gone on. I thought the right woman
1:49:15
one. But now we have two money in the bank winners that a cut
1:49:24
bilingual, but both cut bilingual promos. But they're both second bananas and heel
1:49:30
factions that were already having problems before and now have all this jealousy, you
1:49:35
know, turned up from seven to about fifteen. And it's just kind of
1:49:42
the same story in both briefcases, which kind of sucks, I think,
1:49:47
But maybe they'll go in totally different directions with each of them. Who knows.
1:49:53
I think one of them is due for a quick cash and I'm not
1:49:56
sure who if Sky is already the third longest holder of the women's money in
1:50:02
the bank briefcase, just because she's just by the very nature of taking it
1:50:06
home right exactly which is kind of funny, but I actually expect Priests to
1:50:14
cash it in relatively quickly because I don't think Seth's title reign is going to
1:50:18
go on for that long. I guess we'll talk about him in a minute.
1:50:23
I'm hoping Eo Sky hold on the briefcase for a minute. It'll be
1:50:27
fun to see her and Bailey being all jealous of each other. I mean,
1:50:31
I think maybe Bailey might try to get her to cash in on the
1:50:34
tag champion so Bailey can get something out of it herself. Maybe that might
1:50:40
be a fun way to try to go with it. But there's just a
1:50:43
lot of parallel between both stories and that kind of seems monotonous a little bit.
1:50:48
But we'll see where they go with it. Yeah, yeah, that
1:50:51
is I hadn't even thought about the fact that the similarities that exist between our
1:50:56
two money in the Bank briefcase holders. But yeah, there is still space
1:51:00
for them to take them in different directions, even if the initial circumstances are
1:51:05
a bit of a bit the same. Uh, Wayne, or your thoughts
1:51:09
on this one? Um? You know what, This match went on for
1:51:12
eighteen minutes, five seconds, but it was a great eighteen minutes five seconds.
1:51:16
Um. I actually enjoyed this one more than the men's. Um.
1:51:21
I mean, let's face it, absolutely, it's an impossible not to compare
1:51:26
them. Yeah yeah, and I mean we're not not just because it's a
1:51:29
match full of beautiful women, you know, wrestling around. But they had
1:51:34
oh my god, they had great outfits. Like I said, like we
1:51:38
were talking about earlier, I beth uh Becky Lynch, Yeah, sorry,
1:51:44
I had a brain for it. Becky Lynch, I thought she was looking
1:51:46
like rogue. Uh. Phoenix was another one. But I totally didn't get
1:51:51
Siren. I didn't even think about that. That. Uh, that totally
1:51:56
went over my head. I even thought cool Running. All of those go
1:52:00
over my head. And the cool Runnings one, that's what I was thinking.
1:52:03
Oh that one was funny. Yeah yeah. Selena Vegas outfit was awesome.
1:52:12
Um, a lot of like what we suspected, like allegiances in this
1:52:16
match, you know. But and then one that didn't go so well,
1:52:21
you know. I mean we did see some tension between Bailey and you know
1:52:29
the past couple of weeks they have been slowly teasing it, and this kind
1:52:33
of puts the nail in the coffin for for that that stable. You know,
1:52:38
Dakota Kai is out with an injury. This is the perfect time to
1:52:41
kind of separate Bailey from them and uh, you know, you know Sky
1:52:46
from that group. I don't I don't see her cashion in anytime soon.
1:52:53
But unfortunately, if we're gonna have a failed women's cashion, it might be
1:52:57
her. I just hope she holds onto would for for a while and cashes
1:53:01
in at the right time. Um. You know, this match, as
1:53:08
interesting as it was, there was a lot of botches during this. Trish
1:53:13
was definitely showing her age with a lot of the moves she was doing.
1:53:16
Um. I did like the the handcuffing. I thought, oh great,
1:53:24
they're going to handcuff Becky to the rope and like that's it. We're not
1:53:28
going to see her basically for the rest of the match. Well, thankfully
1:53:31
didn't go that way. I would have personally taken that handcuff and handcuff the
1:53:35
other end to myself. That way, nobody could have used the handcuff later
1:53:41
against me. There you go. I guess she didn't think about that at
1:53:44
all. Uh, you know, handcuffing her between you know, between the
1:53:50
ladder I get you know too, Bailey. That was brilliant, fucking brilliant.
1:53:56
I was like, that's awesome. Yeah, And I just thought about
1:53:59
another nice little piece of logic that she actually did use in terms of utilizing
1:54:02
those handcuffs. Remember when she took the uh, the open end of the
1:54:06
handcuffs and hooked it into Bailey's mouth to pull her down from the letter.
1:54:13
That was a pretty gnarly spot. Yeah. Um, you know Becky,
1:54:17
Becky was handcuffed when she was still reaching up to the for the briefcase.
1:54:23
Yeah, that was pretty right. She's like like she was almost like she
1:54:26
was yelling down at being like, bitch, come up a little bits walk
1:54:29
of reacher. Yeah. Um, you know, I think we all laughed
1:54:34
about it at the end, you know, after you know, she won
1:54:39
the briefcase. She's celebrating, you know, Bailey and Becky just had to
1:54:43
stand there and fucking take it, you know, just fucking stand there and
1:54:46
just take it like you're not going nowhere until somebody gets the fucking keys.
1:54:50
Very visual though, yeah, top celebrating both of them down there just looking
1:54:57
disgusted like, ain't this a bitch? Yeah? I mean, and there's
1:55:00
only but so many ways you can end these matches and uh, you know
1:55:04
you see the same kind of basic thing several times or whatever. It's always
1:55:10
nice to see something you kind of haven't seen before. M hm, um,
1:55:15
you know, a little off subject. But like as we're watching Monday
1:55:18
Night Raw, uh Ria is actually defending her her women's title. It's been
1:55:24
a while, but of course out of all people is against Italia. HEYI
1:55:30
has lasted more than a minute. Though, I know she's actually putting the
1:55:33
fight a decent match. This is her new character because she knew who she
1:55:38
was anymore. Italias it appears to be all over the mat Also, just
1:55:43
about to say that, do you notice that outfits fall right problems in this
1:55:50
match? All the glitter and Ria ripped. He's just in a T shirt.
1:55:58
Uh, but yeah, I really enjoyed this match. Um seeing uh
1:56:03
Selanave do that spot with Zoe start putting her on that fucking ladder off the
1:56:09
top. Yeah, like that could read surprisingly that. Um that ladder didn't
1:56:15
break either, you know that ladder just took it and bounced right off.
1:56:19
But you know, all these women did great in this match. You know
1:56:25
they they really did way better than than the men's It was more interesting.
1:56:30
It's much better, I thought, Yeah, I think I think the pacing
1:56:34
was definitely way better. I think this is where we're gonna have to tell
1:56:38
you about Definitely, yeah, pacing was better. They they were to me
1:56:42
a bit more creative with it. Granted, they may not be able to
1:56:45
match demand in terms of pure athleticism, like you know, there are very
1:56:48
few humans on the planet that can match somebody like Ricochet get him in his
1:56:54
athleticism. But yeah, for what the women put forth, it seems like
1:56:59
they always put forth effort into their matches in terms of their their moments,
1:57:04
their choreography, all that stuff, even if it takes them a little longer
1:57:08
to set up. Yeah, it shouldn't really come as a big surprise that
1:57:12
a group of women are more thoughtful than a group of men. Valid.
1:57:19
So yeah, yeah, this was way better than the men's match. I
1:57:23
thought they did a great job of having multiple things going on at the same
1:57:28
time without it being a mess. You know, like a w just did
1:57:33
that anarchy in the arena match and it was just a I mean, it
1:57:39
must have been fun to be at. I'm sure it was fun to watch
1:57:42
or whatever, but there was too much stuff going on. They couldn't they
1:57:45
couldn't show at all, commentary couldn't talk about it at all. It's just
1:57:50
a fucking mess, you know, there's too much stuff going on, and
1:57:56
I think they did a real good job of maybe having two things happening at
1:58:00
once, you know, as opposed to the men's match, which I which
1:58:02
you know, I always say that all everybody's laying on the ground and two
1:58:06
or three guys get up and do something, and then they go out and
1:58:10
the other guys get in and they do something. It's just repetitive. And
1:58:15
the ladies, I thought, did a great job of not doing that exactly
1:58:20
exactly. So moving on from the women's Money in the Bank Ladder match,
1:58:26
next up we got the World Heavyweight Championship match, Finn Balor challenging Seth freaking
1:58:33
Rollins. This match, it was good, but not great. And to
1:58:42
me, that's a problem because these two guys, these two competitors, Finn
1:58:47
Balor and Seth Rolins, we know what they're capable of them the ring.
1:58:50
We know what level they're capable of performing at, and they didn't rise to
1:58:57
that level in this match, and that left me kind of disappointing, disappointed.
1:59:02
I also felt that, and obviously towards later on in the match,
1:59:06
when Finn were starting to get the upper hand, we saw Damien Priests come
1:59:12
out and make an appearance. I thought that was completely unnecessary and honestly took
1:59:15
away from the match and almost kind of at least the way I viewed it,
1:59:23
it to me, it just kind of signaled that Seth was gonna win.
1:59:26
Yeah, I didn't, because if he's gonna cash in, it wouldn't
1:59:30
make sense for him to come out and sit there and just wait to cash
1:59:33
in. Because Seth there, he now knows to prepare for you would expect
1:59:36
you, whereas most cashings come spontaneously, they come from the back and announced
1:59:43
their cash in when they show up, not sitting there the whole time waiting.
1:59:46
So that just me kind of stole any little bit of suspense there was
1:59:53
left in the match out of it. So I had a problem. I
1:59:56
didn't like it didn't come with a referee either, right right, that's another
2:00:00
kind of dead bringer, Although admittedly the referee was already in the ring,
2:00:04
so you know, if he were gonna do it, he could have just
2:00:06
handed it to the referee. That was there, but still it's still a
2:00:10
valid point. A lot of times when they come out, they come with
2:00:12
their own referee. That has kind of been the tradition. But so yeah,
2:00:17
it just the match was just a disappointment to me. But my thinking
2:00:27
of this after I managed to sit on it and marinate on it for a
2:00:30
little while, and I'm gonna pose this, pose this to y'all in the
2:00:38
question of does this feud continue past tonight? And I'm gonna say that I
2:00:45
think it does. I think, I think, and maybe I'm giving these
2:00:50
guys a bit of a benefit of the doubt. I think they consciously held
2:00:54
back in this match and didn't go all out because I think there's some long
2:01:00
term planning in this feud. I believe that this feud will probably continue past
2:01:06
tonight and that we'll see we'll get another finn Balor seth Rollins match, maybe
2:01:13
a SummerSlam, who knows. And while this feud is continuing, Damien Priest
2:01:20
will always be that lingering factor. And if I can play, if I
2:01:25
play a little bit of fantasy booking, I think what the final endgame of
2:01:29
this feud will be is that there will there will will have another Finn Balor
2:01:36
seth Rollins match, and uh, part part of me wants to say that
2:01:48
as as that the judgment day, the tension will continue to build between Priest
2:01:57
and Balor. One way or the other, we'll get we'll get a seth
2:02:02
Rollins Finn Balor, either a Part two or or Part three. I don't
2:02:05
know how far they will they will continue, but I think they will continue
2:02:09
it, and I think it's possible that Finn Balor may actually win the match,
2:02:15
Like they'll have some hilaious match far better than what they did tonight,
2:02:19
and they'll have a hilaious match Leaven. Maybe Finn finally wins, but he's
2:02:26
completely spent, and then the culmination of their of Balor and Priests tension building
2:02:32
up will culminate in Priests cashing in on Balor and taking that title from him.
2:02:39
So that what you mentioned earlier, I think it was you Wayne who
2:02:43
mentioned it earlier, that that could be a possibility that you thought it was
2:02:45
going to happen, but it did might not happening. I don't think that's
2:02:48
completely off the table. I just think they're implementing some long form storytelling with
2:02:55
it, and I think they're just going to drag it out a little bit
2:02:58
longer, so Rollins can have a bit longer of a title reign that's a
2:03:02
little bit more credible, and we get so that way when he does drop
2:03:09
it, it doesn't feel like a hot shot thing, even if we may
2:03:12
end up sacrificing Finn Balor for it in terms of him having all of a
2:03:19
five minute rain. But then obviously after that we could going straight into a
2:03:26
Fenn Balor Damian Priest feud involving the world title. Yeah, so that's my
2:03:32
question to y'all is do y'all think this feud continues? And the question that
2:03:39
I held back from the men's money in the bank the ladder matches, I'm
2:03:43
gonna bring it in here is will Damien Priests be successful with his money in
2:03:46
the bank cash in? I think these two are kind of interconnected. Now
2:03:50
at this point, are your thoughts on the wayne? You know what?
2:03:56
I think this feud has a lot of me left on the bone. Um.
2:04:01
You know, these these are two phenomenal wrestlers, and I think whenever
2:04:06
you put Finn Balor and seth Rawlins together in the ring, they're gonna do
2:04:10
some magic. They're gonna do a great match. It's not going to be
2:04:13
disappointed in any way, shape or form. Uh, the ending kind of
2:04:16
fell short on this um. You know, Seth Rawlins was nursing the injured
2:04:21
ribs. We had a couple of couder rose to the ribs, you know,
2:04:26
make it believe that Finn Balor pretty much had this, you know,
2:04:30
he had this in his pocket, like he had this. And the inserting
2:04:36
of Damien Priests towards the end of the match, showing that there's even more
2:04:40
tension you know, going in the judgment day that you know, Finn clearly
2:04:45
didn't want him out there and knew that, you know, like Damien was
2:04:48
gonna cost him this match, or he was afraid that Damien was going to
2:04:54
cash in on him at some point, or you know, do a triple
2:04:58
kind of deal either way, steal the title from him that night, you
2:05:02
know, and like you're gonna keep Seth in this. I don't. I
2:05:11
don't know. Are we gonna see these guys at SummerSlam? Uh? You
2:05:15
know, is Damien Priests gonna cash in in early and make it a triple
2:05:19
threat? I don't. I don't really think so. I think it's kind
2:05:21
of early for Damian Priest to Cashion in now, now that I have seen
2:05:28
how the dust has settled after this pay per view, I think Damion is
2:05:33
gonna have to hold onto that briefcase a little bit longer, and this feud
2:05:38
with Seth Rollins and Finn Balor are gonna have to go for a little bit
2:05:41
longer. And if that is the case that Finn eventually does topple Seth Rollins,
2:05:46
you know, in this feud, then that would probably be the moment
2:05:51
for Damian Priest to Cashion is if Finn Valor wins this. But it's not
2:05:57
tonight, It's not you know, it's it's not during this pay per view.
2:06:01
I still think we got a little bit to go with this feud.
2:06:06
And I know, like you said, it felt like these guys were holding
2:06:09
back, and I totally believe that. Um, you know, these guys
2:06:13
got twelve minutes and thirty seconds. It was a decent twelve minutes thirty seconds,
2:06:17
but it wasn't the best. Still interesting, I still was interested in
2:06:26
matching. I wasn't bored, and then I wasn't looking at my at the
2:06:30
time, seeing you know how long this match has been going on. I
2:06:33
wasn't going for the piss break. I was. I was there the whole
2:06:38
twelve minutes thirty seconds. So let's hope these guys put on a banger of
2:06:45
a match and next time they get in the ring together. Yeah, yeah,
2:06:48
I knew you guys mentioned that you think y'all thought Damian Priests would be
2:06:53
the one to cash in quickly and Eo Scott might hold onto it longer.
2:06:58
I actually kind of think the op said, I think Eo might be the
2:07:00
one to have the quicker cash in, and we might see Damien hold on
2:07:04
to the belt a little bit longer. But uh, Doyle, what are
2:07:08
your thoughts on this match, and how do you feel where do you think,
2:07:10
uh, Damian Priests could possibly factor in in the future if you think
2:07:15
this view continues beyond all right, well do I think it will continue?
2:07:21
It certainly could. I suppose um Seth needs is some slam match. I
2:07:29
suppose Finn does as well. But yeah, I mean I can see the
2:07:33
monitor bag. I don't know how you how you get there, but I'm
2:07:38
sure there's a way to get there. Um yeah, I said, I
2:07:45
don't expect Seth's rain to take to be very long. I think this belt
2:07:50
is gonna bounce around a little bit at least for the first year or two
2:07:57
of its existence, just to kind of counter or balance the Roman reigns holding
2:08:03
it for two or three four years. Thing that's going on in the other
2:08:07
channel, Finn's entrance. This is when I wrote down about Finn's entrance.
2:08:13
Looks like the gimp from pulp fiction had sex with Kane. That was kind
2:08:20
of a strange choice. He didn't get nearly the reaction I thought he would.
2:08:26
I don't know if it's because he's a heel. I don't know if
2:08:28
it's because he's Irish. I mean, the Scotson got a huge cheer,
2:08:33
and Scotland and England don't necessarily like each other much more than Ireland and England
2:08:41
do. Whatever. They were singing Seth's music before it hit that is fucking
2:08:50
over. They sang it. I went back and I timed it one minute
2:08:54
in eight seconds. They sang it after it ended, and most of that
2:09:01
wasn't even him doing his conductor arms anymore. He did that for a couple
2:09:05
of seconds and then he just stood stone cold still. Is a you know
2:09:11
that is fucking over? Man? Um wow? Uh, but yeah,
2:09:18
this is this match was a big disappointment. Um Finn's at Cole said something
2:09:24
about Finn said, this isn't gonna be a technical masterpiece. This is gonna
2:09:28
be a brawl, and it got me thinking, I don't think Finn is
2:09:31
a great brawler. I mean, he's great in other areas. I love
2:09:37
the guy, I really like him, but he's not He's not a brawler.
2:09:41
And I think if they were trying to turn this into a brawl,
2:09:45
that's maybe even part of the reason it fell flat. From me, Seths
2:09:48
can do it, I don't know the Finn can. Um. You know,
2:09:54
I had an inkling finn In might win here, especially after prin Priest
2:10:00
one. I really really wanted that scenario to play out. But uh,
2:10:03
Wayne, I think you said I never felt like Finn had a chance once
2:10:09
the match actually started. I never I never believe that he would win.
2:10:15
Okay, yeah, there was a point where, like you know, it
2:10:18
was getting hard to believe, but he kept working those ribs, kept working
2:10:20
those ribs, and when he got like it was almost three kud gras,
2:10:24
I was like, okay, maybe it's gonna take three to put Seth away
2:10:28
rights. I actually wrote down Finn is too reliant on the Kuda gras.
2:10:33
Yeah. Then the slink bleed, Yeah, he doesn't way too often.
2:10:39
Yeah. But then the ending it was just flat as a board. I
2:10:41
mean, I mean, yeah, Priests came down, like I said,
2:10:45
I guess she'll explain himself. But he didn't have a referee. I didn't
2:10:48
ever think he was gonna cash it in. It was like, but why
2:10:50
the hell was he even there in the first place, and why was that
2:10:54
so distracting to Finn? It just felt just joined it and slow, but
2:11:00
also rushed at the same time, Like why did why did Damian priests have
2:11:03
to stand up when Finn was on the top rope? Yeah it didn't it
2:11:07
Like, why what was so shocking about that? I don't but some um,
2:11:13
I forget who said it. Somebody said the Judgment Day is effectively like
2:11:16
the second biggest faction. Now actually they're actually the biggest because the bloodline doesn't
2:11:22
really exist anymore. And why would you break up Judgment Day at this point?
2:11:26
I mean, obviously that's the logical conclusion. That's what happens to factions,
2:11:31
they break up, But like, this seems like such a bizarre time
2:11:35
to do that. I'm wondering if maybe, uh, they're gonna edge Finn.
2:11:41
You know, maybe Finn is gonna do the gimmick where he's gonna go,
2:11:46
hey, I'm gonna bring in uh the other Irish kid, what's his
2:11:48
name, j d Jon. They're gonna bring him in and go oh,
2:11:54
and then they're gonna kick Finn the fuck out. I think we might be
2:11:58
looking at that kind in the scenario. Um Like George Lucas says, it's
2:12:03
poetry at Ryan. Well, sure, but let's think about it for a
2:12:07
second. Let's think about what we've mentioned, what we've already discussed just on
2:12:11
tonight show. We got Dom who has you know, nuclear heel heat but
2:12:18
can't still can't quite get it done in the ring. We've got Rhea,
2:12:22
who the fans kind of want to cheer but are really, excuse me,
2:12:28
only booing because of her connection still with Dom. Yeah, and Mater really
2:12:33
the only outliers. Everybody else that's supposed to get cheered gets cheered, and
2:12:37
everybody else is supposed to get booed gets booed. Right. We've got night
2:12:41
or heel is getting cheered, right. We've got Damian Priests, who I
2:12:45
think is kind of slowly but surely starting to win people over. He still
2:12:50
kind of gets booed pretty strongly, but I think fans are starting to warm
2:12:54
up to him in the sense that if we if we were to get a
2:13:00
Damien Priests versus Finn Balor feud, I'm pretty sure Damien Priests would be the
2:13:03
face and fan Balor would still remain the heel. So you've got this faction
2:13:07
that sure is a pretty big faction, but the individual members are pretty divided
2:13:13
in the audience's eyes in terms of how they want to cheer or boo.
2:13:20
So it's I think they're kind of fighting to there. They're holding it together,
2:13:24
but I don't know how much longer they can continue to hold back the
2:13:28
tide of faction the judgment days of our lives, right, It's like that's
2:13:37
where we're going. Yeah, I just don't know how much longer they can
2:13:39
hold the tide back. So they may again, we'll probably get maybe a
2:13:43
few warm months out of it. And they've been a thing now for well
2:13:48
over a yeah, right sure, yeah, like most factions don't last this
2:13:54
long. Yeah, they formed after WrestleMania last year, so yeah, they
2:14:00
for well over a year. So I mean if they if it puts the
2:14:03
shelf life on most factions probably what six months, eight months? Maybe minor
2:14:07
faction. Sure, of course you have the ones that go for years,
2:14:11
but yeah, yeah, if you got a really good faction, you can
2:14:13
probably get a year or more, which a B. Yeah, for every
2:14:16
one of those, you have one that lasts for two shows, you never
2:14:20
hear about it again. Sure, like I said, the really good ones,
2:14:24
you'll get a year more out of them, and Judgment Day has kind
2:14:26
of proven to be one of those ones, despite the rocky start that they
2:14:30
kind of got. But yeah, I mean, I just don't know how
2:14:35
much longer they can keep it going given these dynamics that exists, especially if
2:14:41
they decide to go the route. I mean, they've already kind of fueled
2:14:45
or teased the tension between Priest and Balor with them arguing after the match,
2:14:52
and on tonight's raw, Judgment Day came out hearing an earlier segment, there
2:15:00
was no Finn Balor, it was just Priest, Rha and Tom before a
2:15:05
Priest had his one on one match with Shinska Nakamura. I don't think we've
2:15:11
seen Balor at all on tonight's episode of Raw. So I don't know if
2:15:16
there's a reasoning behind that. I don't know if that's something that you know
2:15:20
as part of the storytelling that's going on with this faction, but it's certainly
2:15:26
it's certainly something to keep an eye on at the very least and to see
2:15:31
what direction this may ultimately go. Again, I do believe it's ultimately going
2:15:35
to lead to a Damian Priests cash in, and I think his cashing is
2:15:39
going to be the straw that breaks the camel's back at least between him and
2:15:43
Finn Balor in this faction. And then once that happens, all bets are
2:15:48
off as far as the remaining members. Anybody else have any final thoughts on
2:15:56
this match before we move on to the main event, I do not the
2:16:03
all right, the final match on the car the main event, we had
2:16:05
the Bloodline Civil War featuring the USSOS versus Solo SKOA and Roman Rains. This
2:16:13
match, it took a while to get going. And I'm not just talking
2:16:18
about Roman Rains is ridiculously long entrances at this point, Like even once the
2:16:28
match guys started, it took a while for them to get going. It's
2:16:31
I get that they I get that these matches now at this point are kind
2:16:35
of more about the drama and the storytelling, and they are pretty much peak
2:16:39
storytelling in ww at this point. But even that, even with that,
2:16:43
I was watching the matching it was just like, all right, can y'all
2:16:46
just start wrestling now? We just can y'all just stop just pacing back and
2:16:50
forth and a one move and then we're just gonna stand around the wall.
2:16:54
It's like, come on, let's get going, Let's get going, come
2:16:58
on, fucking wrestle. But once they actually did finally actually get going,
2:17:01
it was a great match and it definitely ramped up, and the drama was
2:17:07
absolutely there in the end with as they built towards the U, as they
2:17:13
built towards the finish with the kicks and spears, and you know, I
2:17:18
think it was Jay and Roman trading super kicks and Superman punches to Solo getting
2:17:26
in the ring and hitting the Samoan spike on Jimmy and Jay, and then
2:17:33
Simon Spike spear combo, then Roman trying to stack him up as he had
2:17:39
claimed he was gonna do on social media, stacking him up and going for
2:17:41
the pen, and they kicked out, which got a huge pot from the
2:17:48
audience of them kicking out of that, because yeah, I'm pretty sure most
2:17:52
people watching that thought, oh, well that's it. But nope, they
2:17:54
kicked out and eight the usso's got the win. But not only did they
2:18:00
get the wind, they pinned Roman Rains for the wind. And there's after
2:18:09
that. I think there's only one question to be asked, now what so?
2:18:15
Wait, I think you said it in the discord. One of you
2:18:20
guys said, uh, you know when you say now, what now,
2:18:24
what is we gotta get Solo back. It's time to get Solo back and
2:18:31
basically leave Roman Rains by himself. You know. Uh. They announced this
2:18:37
week. They announced this morning. I saw that Roman Rains is gonna be
2:18:43
on trial. The tribal chief is gonna be on trial this week. I
2:18:48
have no idea what the fuck that means, but I'm interested. Me is
2:18:52
the last thirty minutes to smack down, That's what it means. Yeah,
2:18:56
this match did commercial breaks. Yeah, I mean the match it does stay
2:19:05
here. It was for thirty two minutes, ten seconds. I don't know
2:19:07
when they started the timer because it did take them close to like fifteen minutes.
2:19:13
The entrances and like an additional like five minutes just walking around the ring
2:19:20
and teasing us, and the match really didn't pick up for a while.
2:19:24
Um, you know, and we did see some sometimes where you know,
2:19:30
Vermin the reins was demanding a tag, you know, and Solo just looking
2:19:33
at him, and just the way the seeds are being planted now with Solo,
2:19:39
I believe, like you know, looking at him like you know,
2:19:41
you don't fucking tell me when a tag? You know. It's just I
2:19:48
definitely see it after this, Solo slowly leaving the tribal chief and reuniting with
2:19:54
his brothers. Um, you know, this this match had a lie going
2:20:01
for it with this storyline. I still think they're they're gonna drag this out
2:20:05
past SummerSlam, you know, all the way up to WrestleMania in some way,
2:20:09
shape or form. I think we're gonna see the full end of the
2:20:13
blood line around WrestleMania. How they dragged this out, I don't know.
2:20:18
I don't know really how they can. I mean, they get Solo back
2:20:22
and then what you know, does Roman Rains take them on individually and then
2:20:28
put them all back in their fucking place. Um. I also don't understand
2:20:33
why Paul Hayman has to come out with off with the older belts that no
2:20:39
longer exist. And somebody else pointed out that one of the belts that Paul
2:20:48
Hayman was carrying had brock Lessner's side plates on it. I don't know if
2:20:52
somebody anybody else saw that. I saw it, but I'm not reading anything
2:20:58
into it. He was trying to keep it covered. Now, maybe that's
2:21:01
because that was what was laying around and something got lost in the mail or
2:21:07
whatever. Out of side plates, Like maybe you know, they only have
2:21:11
so many side plates for you. It's like you got a third title.
2:21:13
Now, we don't have a third set of fucking plates for you, and
2:21:18
we're not gonna make them. Uh yeah, it's so weird, you know,
2:21:24
yeah, because Paul him is something to do. I guess, uh
2:21:28
walking around now with three titles, I mean, yea, as I gave
2:21:31
you some back problems out, they'll ended the you know later, right,
2:21:35
I mean there's titles way what twenty five pounds apiece. I think it's great,
2:21:41
though, it just makes Rome look like such an asshole, like like,
2:21:45
yeah, they can dense season in the one, but I'm gonna carry
2:21:48
a wall just like just because a dickhead. Yeah, like I works,
2:21:54
Yeah, you know. They It also where I did love about this match,
2:22:01
especially towards the end when they were getting their signature Moosa and the finishers.
2:22:05
It showed how much they know each other so well, you know,
2:22:09
being able to predict a lot of these guys moves. Like you know,
2:22:13
we thought Roman range was setting up for the Superman punch and then the spear.
2:22:18
He ended up getting speared by both of the usos. You know,
2:22:22
uh, you know, there was just a lot of uh, we we
2:22:28
know what's coming, we know what's coming. We kind of can predict you
2:22:31
what you're gonna do. Uh, you know. The I liked how they
2:22:37
were able to separate Solo and Roman eventually to get in the ring and and
2:22:45
make that pin. And you know, it meant so much for them to
2:22:48
to pin Roman, you know, not have what I thought was big a
2:22:54
big deal here was to not have Solo take the pin h so much more
2:23:01
having the Roman to take it. Yeah, exactly, because the fact that
2:23:05
he took the pen means he's now he's mortal more or less. He can
2:23:09
he knows that he can be beaten. Yeah, especially when he doesn't have
2:23:13
the strength of the USOS to back him up. Mh. Yeah. So
2:23:20
last time he was penned December fifteenth, twenty nineteen. Is that what you
2:23:24
have? I had to yeah, in over three years. But well,
2:23:31
I mean you know who you know who it was, right? Yeah?
2:23:33
Yeah, Baron Corbyn. Yeah. Yeah. There's people online like I remember
2:23:39
posts like that and somebody was armed. It's a couple people will argument like
2:23:43
there's no way Baron Corbyan was the last person depend on. I'm like,
2:23:46
yeah, I was there, like I remember, Like I'm surprised that,
2:23:54
like Baron Corbyn did like, you know, kind of harper on that for
2:23:56
a while, like you know, like for a second. But yeah,
2:24:01
yeah, I was the last man to pin the tribal chief. Know,
2:24:07
he pinned the big dog. He han't pinned the tribal chief. That was
2:24:11
a completely different Roman reins. That's why. That's why he can't sit there
2:24:16
and hark on that too much. That's right, I pinned the big dog.
2:24:22
Yeah, so is everybody else a right? That's what I'm saying.
2:24:26
I gotta win over Rocky my idea. But did you beat the rock Yeah?
2:24:31
Damn that is pretty good. That's good. Uh yeah, Like this
2:24:37
was a very very long match, ate up a lot of time in the
2:24:41
card, and you know, a lot of it was entrances, a lot
2:24:45
of it was just dicking around in the beginning. But you know, they
2:24:48
made the best of it and I sent everybody home happy. I got to
2:24:54
see a lot of videos afterwards of how Roman was taking it between walking from
2:25:01
the ring backstage, how he was just he was pissed. He was piss
2:25:07
and he sold it very well always the back you know. Yeah, uh
2:25:13
what what a way to end the paper video? Yeah, quick side note
2:25:18
on raw Apparently we're apparently we're about to get Seth freaking Rollins taking on Dominic
2:25:24
Masterio and Dominic Masterio is coming to the ring and the purple nerf bullets are
2:25:28
still there, damn there. Yeah, yeah, well he's about to go
2:25:35
to war. I had seen a rumor that if he had beaten Cody Rhodes,
2:25:39
it meant he was gonna be facing uh Seth for the title and SummerSlam,
2:25:45
but either obviously neither of the things. They're happening, right, Uh
2:25:52
Doyle, what do you what thoughts do you have on this? On the
2:25:54
main event. It was a slow start, but like that's kind of become
2:26:01
a Roman Reigns trademark. You know, that's kind of just what you expect.
2:26:07
An interesting juxtaposition between the two money in the bank matches we just you
2:26:13
know, just watched. Um. You know, it's kind of further proof
2:26:18
that you don't need flips and tables and ladders and ship to have a great
2:26:22
match. You know, you don't even really need a fast pace. I
2:26:26
mean, off the pace would quicken. But uh, you know, if
2:26:31
if you're if you don't need all that stuff to have a great professional wrestling
2:26:35
match, you know, sometimes it helps. Don't get me wrong. There's
2:26:39
definitely a place for that. We need that in our lives, don't get
2:26:43
me wrong. But it just shows that that's not what it's all about,
2:26:46
you know. Uh, the match, gut, it didn't really start until
2:26:52
we got the face off with the four of them, uh, and then
2:26:54
kind of business started to pick up. Um if Roman that he's just bad
2:27:01
superman punch and cold and that, well, you know, he didn't get
2:27:05
all of that, uh, And it made me wonder like is it worse
2:27:07
to say that and call attention to it, or is it better to just
2:27:13
forget it, just pretend it didn't even happen, like right, I'm not
2:27:16
sure. Uh. Um. There was some cool spots. So you know,
2:27:22
Roman caught Jimmy and the guillotine when he jumped up tried to splash him
2:27:26
off the top rope. That was kind of cool. Um. I forget
2:27:31
who Uh either Roman or or Solo had one of the uzzos in a in
2:27:39
in like a sleep or hold and the refted the raise their arm which they
2:27:43
never you never see that anymore. Yeah, that was the guillotine when Roman
2:27:48
had man Oh is that still the same? Uh? Fucking uzzos? The
2:27:52
one d they did was fucking awful, h terrible. The spike in the
2:27:58
spear was awesome though, great uh great, um, great, great spot.
2:28:03
I knew that when they showed the stacking of Daniel, Bryan and Edge
2:28:11
uh before the match in the pre match video and they showed made a point
2:28:16
of showing that, I go, he's gonna do that to the who says
2:28:18
and sure enough he did. Um? How did Cole not notice Roman getting
2:28:26
punching the balls on the on the h the double kick out or right like
2:28:33
like they showed replay after replaying Michael call. Oh, oh he got low
2:28:39
blowed there. I didn't even see that. See that his spot? Yeah?
2:28:46
How was that script? Right? Campbell was right there in real time
2:28:50
when it happened, full armed to the nuts. Um. But Jimmy was
2:28:56
great at the end, man sitting in the corner and like kind of smiling
2:28:58
with his head, uh, head in his hands, while um, while
2:29:03
Jay did the splash and got the pin um. And it kind of reminded
2:29:07
me of watching The Three Stooges, because Larry is my favorite stooge and I'll
2:29:13
tell you why, because when Moe shit out of Curly, Larry's reaction is
2:29:18
so much funnier than Mo hitting Curly in the head. Uh. And sometimes
2:29:24
with the Uzos it's the same thing. If you watch the other Uzo,
2:29:28
it's kind of even more entertaining and watching the one that the thing is happening
2:29:33
too, So sometimes the lesson here, sometimes you have to watch the other
2:29:37
Uzo. But yeah, this match could have been a lot better. I'm
2:29:41
not gonna lie, but the last ten minutes were pretty excellent. Um.
2:29:46
Yeah, we said if I've already said first pins, and uh, I
2:29:50
kind of thought there was gonna be some kind of PostScript to this match.
2:29:54
You know that seems to be the way that, um, that's been for
2:29:58
the last couple of matches a while. Yeah, and we didn't, um,
2:30:03
you know whatever, the story is going to continue as uh as I
2:30:09
think Wayne said, we're getting tribal caught for Roman rains whatever that means.
2:30:15
Um. But yeah, I mean it's kind of a disappointment. It was
2:30:18
still a good match, but it was still kind of disappointing, you know
2:30:22
overall. I you know, I give the show like maybe a B minus,
2:30:26
which which is not a bad grade, but when you know, when
2:30:31
you're expecting to barely get a C B minus is awesome, you know.
2:30:33
But I thought we were gonna get an A here, you know, A
2:30:37
or an A minus. Uh And when you get a B minus, it's
2:30:39
it's kind of kind of disappointing. Um. So yeah, this was another
2:30:45
disappointing match on a card full of disappointing matches. I thought, still good,
2:30:50
but not excellent. I give this three stars, right cool? So,
2:30:56
uh, I guess that without anything else to say about the matchup,
2:31:01
I guess that pretty much wraps it up for this pay per view. Um,
2:31:07
we're going to take a quick break and then we will come back.
2:31:13
Yes, no, I was only thinking about your happiness. I know,
2:31:20
Dad, and I appreciate it. The problem now is that these people are
2:31:24
expecting a show, ladies and gentlemen. Mister Conway Twitty, nice as you.
2:31:48
All right, and we are back finally got done wrapping up money in
2:31:52
the bank. We are still currently watching Monday Night Raw. We are on
2:31:56
the main event here tonight seth Rons versus Dominic. Uh what a main event?
2:32:05
I guess right. We were just talking how they got like ten minutes
2:32:07
left and there's no way that they're gonna continue with a ten minute match with
2:32:11
these two. Um, he does have rhea and the money in the bank.
2:32:18
Briefcase holder Damien priests out there. H Finnbalor nowhere to be seen yet.
2:32:26
I feel like that's gonna happen or something something. Yeah, we have
2:32:31
yet to see Finnbaler at all on tonight's They must have mentioned something about him,
2:32:37
Yeah, they may have. They may have made just something that we
2:32:39
didn't hear it because obviously we're got to show them game. Um. So
2:32:43
like I mean, like I go on the Wikipedia, there isn't really any
2:32:48
matches on there. Um, there are some matches we do have in mind
2:32:50
that they might have for SummerSlam. Um, I see for the Women's Championship,
2:32:58
the w W mis champion, I see Bianca bel Air versus Charlotte versus
2:33:03
Oscar and a triple threat. Um. You know, I've got to I've
2:33:09
gotta think of proposed matches that I've seen ya listed online that um inter Comminal
2:33:18
Championship match, Drew versus schoonther undisputed tag team match. It's just Kevin Owens
2:33:24
and Sammy Zine versus possibly Finnbaler and Damian Priest. Uh. You know,
2:33:30
I kind of want to move on from that if that is the case,
2:33:33
Like, let's let's let the tag champs versus some fresh blood here, um
2:33:39
Becky versus Trish Shana versus Rhonda Uh Trey, What else did you you have
2:33:46
that I might not have here? All Right? So the list of some
2:33:50
proposed matches that I've seen for uh either propose or maybe from possible liso from
2:33:56
summers Lamp. I've got Roman Reigns versus jay Usso for the undisputed WW Championship
2:34:07
one. Roman Reigns has not defended that title since WrestleMania. He's got to
2:34:11
defend it, right, He's got to defend it at some point, if
2:34:16
if nothing else, the second biggest pay per view of the year, I
2:34:18
think Warren's a title defense Jay, and giving that Jay was the one that
2:34:24
just pinned him, he seems to be a prime candidate for one. Another
2:34:28
proposed match I'm seeing is Ria Ripley versus Becky Lynch at Summer Slam. This
2:34:37
one I wasn't too sure about, but then I thought about it. Ria
2:34:43
does need to start defending that title more. She did. Admittedly she did
2:34:46
just defend it tonight against the Tali You, but she needs to defend it
2:34:50
some more and not just holding the title and not doing anything with it.
2:34:54
And Raw right now doesn't really have any strong top baby faces. They really
2:35:01
only have two, and that's Becky Lynch or two that can conceivably compete against
2:35:09
Becky against Ria Ripley on a show the caliber of SummerSlam. That's Becky Lynch
2:35:15
and Raquel Rodriguez. I think Raquel's two green and not quite built up enough
2:35:20
to be on the stage as grand as SummerSlam, and obviously now they're the
2:35:24
tag champions. Well, I would say that's exactly why she can lose a
2:35:28
Summers Slam. They had Rockel and Ria up in each other's business. It
2:35:33
looked like, sure, they've teased it, but I think Becky's gonna work
2:35:37
Trish and Summers Slam. I think that's been their plan all along. Right,
2:35:41
He's gonna go over and then we won't see Trish again if right,
2:35:46
right, So I don't see I don't see Ria and Becky as opponents.
2:35:54
I think it's yeah, I think you're probably right on that. And but
2:36:01
at the same time, if we do get if Riha is fighting at SummerSlam,
2:36:05
I mean she needs a match for sure, right, Yeah, she
2:36:09
definitely needs a match, and man, who could she Who is it there
2:36:13
for her to fight? That's all of a Summer Slam caliber that's on that's
2:36:20
on the raw roster. Well, that's why I think I think they could
2:36:26
could. I think it could be rock hell who I'm not saying it is
2:36:28
something Slam caliber, but uh, it's good enough for the match they're gonna
2:36:35
put it on. I think maybe, um, you know, who needs
2:36:39
to the fucking women's tag titles. You know, my my pet project are
2:36:43
just in fucking shambled, so I'm not even considering that they'll be defended at
2:36:48
something slam, so why not throw throw rock Hell in there? Maybe,
2:36:52
but at the same time, definitely up up in RHA's face tonight. I
2:36:56
don't know what they were saying to each other because obviously on mute, but
2:37:01
I can see I could definitely see them doing that. Yes, that is
2:37:05
very much possible, because they did run to Natalia's aid after Riya started beating
2:37:09
her down after the match, so maybe they are planning the seed of and
2:37:15
they definitely could seemingly continued, uh, the Becky Trish angle because next week
2:37:20
on Raw we have Becky Lynch taking on Zoe Stark one on one, and
2:37:26
rock Heel could lose to Ria and not really lose anything, you know,
2:37:31
like, oh, yeah, she should lose to Riya of course. Yeah.
2:37:33
I think either way, whether it's Becky Lynch or Raquel, obviously I
2:37:37
think Ria would still win. Sure, Rio should beat anybody, really,
2:37:43
right, she should have a nice long title run. Yeah. And also
2:37:46
a quick side note on Raw, apparently Damian Priest is now beating the Upper
2:37:52
Living Ship out of seth rawlins know it's serious. He took the straps off,
2:37:58
raps off, and sh though is it na, No, it's not
2:38:01
a cash in. It's just just a good old ass whipping. He was
2:38:05
about to catch a razors As through the table, but seth counter to a
2:38:07
super kick. Oh wait, the captions just said cashing in, here we
2:38:13
go. Yeah. I don't. I don't think so. I think I
2:38:18
think the match is already called. No, no, no, there's no
2:38:22
way this is a cash in because Dom's interfering now yeah yeah, and there's
2:38:26
no way they would waste the cash in, like he's trying to get into
2:38:28
cash Wait. Ohthough, Dom's trying to convince him to cash in. Nah,
2:38:35
come on, man, fuck that. You cash in on your own
2:38:37
time. Now is not the time to cash in. He's going towards the
2:38:43
ring. He's thinking about that, is thinking about it, is getting it
2:38:48
in the ring? Yeah, alright, maybe maybe the Finn and Rollins program
2:38:56
continues. Yeah yeah, yeah, alright, so fish ups. Okay,
2:39:03
So, continuing on with the Summer Slam speculations, I also had what I
2:39:09
was saying was also going to versus Drew McIntire. That seems pretty inevitable at
2:39:13
this point. Also, the triple threat Oscar versus Charlotte versus Bianca bell there.
2:39:20
I think that's pretty sad as well, and I'm gonna enjoy watching Bianca
2:39:26
cook Charlotte on the mic for these next couple of weeks. Tween or tweeter
2:39:31
or Bianca. Mm hmmm, still nothing the same way. Not go to
2:39:37
not go to tween your queen. You know what, I don't need to
2:39:41
because I know she's just gonna come out as champion, just gonna break that
2:39:43
record. Uh you know what, if not, I think Charlotte's not gonna
2:39:50
take the pen. I uh, I come on that. It's I don't
2:39:58
know. To me, it's believable to see Charlotte come out as champion out
2:40:01
of this. But then again, like where does it go then? From
2:40:03
there, it's just another championship range. She's she's ranked up here, she's
2:40:09
putting another knocks a legit feud in the future for her. I really don't
2:40:16
see the point of putting the strap on her right now. So I kind
2:40:20
of see uh bel Air taking the pen. Yeah, your girl's not winning
2:40:24
this match. Sorry to break it to you, winn. She's not winning.
2:40:28
If anything, I could see that match going down, and I could
2:40:33
see EO cashing in a SummerSlam. Oh, I could see. I could
2:40:39
see cashing in a Summer Slam, because remember how we talked about the circumstances
2:40:43
being similar between Damien and EO, but they could go in different directions the
2:40:50
different I could see EO cashing in a SummerSlam, winning the title, but
2:40:54
still being in damage control. And now they're uh, Bailey's jealousy is fueled
2:41:01
even more because she's now, for all intensive purposes, the number two person
2:41:07
in damage control because EO is the champion. Sure, and now you have
2:41:13
the proverbial leader now having to be the number two behind the actual WWE Women's
2:41:18
Champion. So that's an interesting direction that they could take that in and I
2:41:22
could see possibly happening. Um, another proposed match that somebody's had that I
2:41:30
don't think this is going to happen, is somebody's proposed Kevin Owens and Sammy
2:41:35
Zane versus Johnny Gargano and Tomaso Champa. Yes, yeah, the exactly exactly.
2:41:46
That was my That was my rebuttal to see if I thought, I
2:41:50
like, why where's the feud? Okay, So we got this pay per
2:41:56
view in in August. Correct, Still got all July, so we still
2:42:01
got a couple of weeks left now. Right now, it looks like Champa
2:42:05
is dealing with some shit with the Miss. They haven't reunited them together,
2:42:11
yeah right, they haven't even they haven't even been they haven't even been on
2:42:16
the same screen together Choppa and Gargano yet. Plus I'm pretty sure. Plus
2:42:24
I imagine they would be both faces, because Choppa's right now is a face,
2:42:28
giving that he's feuding with the Miss, and WWE doesn't really like to
2:42:33
do face versus face. Sure, yeah, unless that often, unless the
2:42:37
two people are just so over that it's undeniable or it's inevitable. So I
2:42:43
have that idea it would be face versus face, you know. But uh,
2:42:50
they keep saying Randy Orton's coming back any day now, Yeah, what
2:42:54
about RK bro versus uh, Ko and Sammy. I think that would be
2:42:58
fun. That would be fun. It'd be a nice, good spectacle thing
2:43:03
if they wanted to do that, and especially if they can't conceivably come up
2:43:07
with any type of reasonable feud form Cammy, Sammy and Ko to have you
2:43:13
need to do you have a gauntlet match or or or a tag team battle.
2:43:18
Royal or something anything to establish number one contenders, and that's that's kind
2:43:24
of easy. Sure, that's that that is possible. Although we did get
2:43:28
a segment tonight between Drew McIntyre and and uh Riddle, so it looks like
2:43:35
they them two might be kind of joined up now and they're feud with Imperium
2:43:41
because apparently Riddle just always has to be connected to somebody. Apparently, um
2:43:48
so, I know we could see it. It's it would be nice.
2:43:50
It'd be a nice, good quick spectacle if they were to go that route.
2:43:54
I would hope that they wouldn't do a gauntlet match, which is again
2:43:58
a sign notes are raw tonight. Apparently they did that with another that when
2:44:03
we saw the women out there earlier. Apparently that was another gauntlet match which
2:44:07
was won by Sonya de Villa and um Chelsea Green. So I guess they're
2:44:11
gonna face Raquel Rodriguez and Live Morgan for they're gonna lose yet another, right.
2:44:16
I wish they would stop doing the gauntlet match thing, like, especially
2:44:20
if you're trying to build up the women's tag division, stop trying to do
2:44:24
it in one fell swoop that do a tournament, do a tournament. Let
2:44:28
these women have these matches over a couple of weeks. Let people actually spend
2:44:33
some time with them, get invested in them, and build up to something
2:44:37
as opposed to just the scot Shot gauntlet match. Here's something they they're finally
2:44:41
starting to do in the in the singles division for the women, and hopefully
2:44:45
it will eventually bleed into the tag of division. But you've got a couple
2:44:48
feuds that don't involve the title, you know, like if you got if
2:44:52
you get China and Randa, that's no, that's if you got Becky and
2:44:58
Trish, that's not for a title. H So you know, it's nice
2:45:03
to have women's matches that aren't like because mostly you just get title matches for
2:45:09
the women, you know. So it's nice to have multiple feuds going that
2:45:15
aren't centered around the title, right, and a tournament could help serve that
2:45:18
purpose because you can tell storylines within the tournament. Say a team loses in
2:45:24
a way that they don't like that can lead to a feud afterwards or something
2:45:26
of that nature. But give us some time instead of just trying to just
2:45:31
throw everything at the wall at once. Clearly, by the volume of teams
2:45:33
that they brought out tonight. They actually have a decent number of women's tag
2:45:37
teams. So some of them they just threw together. I mean, some
2:45:41
of them are franking teams. Sure, some of them may have been a
2:45:45
bit thrown together, but you know what, they weren't necessarily that hard because
2:45:50
they had some matching outfits. Every tag team at some point was two people
2:45:54
thrown together, right, right, And these some of these look pretty decently
2:45:58
coordinated. Like I said, outfits match Carter and I don't know her partner's
2:46:01
name. They aren't thrown together. They're legit teams, yeah, right for
2:46:07
so long, so they have legitimate like tag team history together, right.
2:46:15
I know. If you want to build up some of these other ones that
2:46:16
are just starting out again, a tournament is a way to do that.
2:46:20
If they advanced a couple of rounds, that's a couple of matches that establishes
2:46:24
them as a tag team. Nikki Cross and Emma, yeah that one,
2:46:28
that one. Yeah. But but if you want to make that something yeah,
2:46:33
yeah. But we speculated that Candice Larrey and uh Indi Hartwell would be
2:46:39
a team, and enough they showed up as a team tonight exactly. But
2:46:45
anyway, not to get two sidetrack, I got three more proposed summer slam
2:46:48
matches. Um another one. Logan Paul versus La Night. Where's that coming
2:46:56
from? Personalities? Yeah, one of your most overfaces versus one of your
2:47:03
highest booth heels. The riffs between them talking shit, you know, building
2:47:09
up for the money in the bank. And I think I saw something on
2:47:13
Raw tonight that they're going to appear face to face on SmackDown this Friday,
2:47:20
So that might actually be a thing. But they all, I think the
2:47:24
logical Ricochet and Logan Paul, which I much rather see. Oh you know
2:47:33
what, maybe I'm wrong, Maybe it was Ricochet and Logan Paul. They're
2:47:35
going to be face to face this Friday SmackDown. I don't know, I
2:47:37
don't remember off the top of my head. But either way, Logan Paul
2:47:41
is going to be on SmackDown this Friday, face to face with somebody.
2:47:43
It may have actually been Ricochet, I may have been. Absolutely there's absolutely
2:47:48
Logan Paul La Night rumors. You're right, you got that. Yeah,
2:47:52
that is speculate, just straight. It absolutely should be Logan Pau because they've
2:47:56
now twice, like in high profiles situations, squared off with each other,
2:48:01
so right, let them go at it. Yeah, I mean, unfortunately,
2:48:05
and I love Ricochet, but he's he's got no character. He just
2:48:09
does stage right, but he's in the ring. He's one of the best
2:48:16
at ww has And if it was from my money, I'm with you,
2:48:20
guys, I would have Logan Paul versus Ricochet at SummerSlam. Let them have
2:48:24
just an absolute match where they just fly all over the place and do shit.
2:48:28
And I would shift La Night over to to a few with Austin theory.
2:48:35
Yeah, and let him take that damn belt off of Austin theory and
2:48:39
become the US champion. I think that's a great idea. Yeah, But
2:48:45
moving on another one, Cody versus Brock That one seems pretty set after tonight.
2:48:52
And finally another one, but oh, I think they they got to
2:48:56
put a stipulation on that to make gimmick match, whether it's like I've heard
2:49:03
I've heard or full rope match. Yeah, either way, it's got to
2:49:07
have some sort of gimmick that hasn't been around in a while. This is
2:49:11
the third match, you know, this is the rubber match slap a gimmick
2:49:18
on right, and the last one, which also clearly seems to be set
2:49:22
in stone, probably after tonight's events. Ronda Vallesy versus Shana Basler. I
2:49:26
think that one. We can pretty much book that one. Yeah, yep,
2:49:31
we pretty much said already, ye yep. Those are the ones that
2:49:35
I've seen proposed so far, and I think a good number of those have
2:49:39
a chance of happening. I think rear Ripley versus Becky Lynch probably not going
2:49:46
to happen unless they unless Becky wraps up per few with Trish in the upcoming
2:49:52
weeks and then moves on. But yeah, possibly not. And also the
2:49:56
Kao Sammy tag match. Pretty sure they're gonna have matches SummerSlam. Just don't
2:50:01
think it's gonna be against Gargano win Choppa. Yeah, that just don't make
2:50:05
sense. It were a great match, oh yeah time. And these are
2:50:11
all matches that we've mentioned and still have no mentioning of the World Heavyweight Championship
2:50:20
in any kind of match, which I think, yeah, yeah, Seth
2:50:24
has got to have a match again nothing no mention of the US title.
2:50:28
I would imagine that we've got to get that match at SummerSlam. They gotta
2:50:33
get going somehow with that damn built. Yeah, there's still room for more
2:50:39
matches to be booked because obviously it's SummerSlam is the second biggest show of the
2:50:43
year, So were you expecting probably at least four hours plus? Yeah,
2:50:48
it's gonna be approaching five. And I wonder how much longer this is gonna
2:50:52
be a one night affair, Uh, like ci CEO World or Slammer Slam
2:51:00
is a two night thing. I certainly I don't think it's off the table,
2:51:07
but I think I think they're going to try to resist it as much
2:51:09
as they can because it is the second biggest one. But I think w
2:51:13
WrestleMania being a two night things kind of made WrestleMania unique among all those other
2:51:20
shows and just helped elevate that show to even greater status. And SummerSlam is
2:51:24
just kind of the second big one just because in terms of booking and tradition
2:51:30
and its placement on the calendar. I don't think it's quite risen to the
2:51:33
status yet to where warrants a two night affair. Yet it's just kind of
2:51:39
now in that position of like old wrestle media, where it's just the longest,
2:51:43
the longest show compared to all the other ones just make slog instead of
2:51:48
two slogs, right, right, right, It's not a two nighter,
2:51:50
but it's going to be longer than any other pay per view not named Wrestle
2:51:54
Media. But uh, I think that is all we pretty much have for
2:52:03
tonight's show, unless anybody has any other final thoughts. No, No,
2:52:11
we covered a lot. I'm pretty sure we'll have a couple more matches we'll
2:52:13
have to bring up. I'd say maybe in like two or three weeks we'll
2:52:18
have another episode and we'll kind of update this summer slam card. All right.
2:52:26
Well, if that concludes everything, Wayne, anything you want to plug
2:52:31
anywhere anybody can find you. Yeah, find me just about anywhere except Facebook
2:52:39
at semi dry Chicken, you know what. You can always find me on
2:52:43
our website at podcast Championship Wrestling dot on Podium dot com. Anytime I post
2:52:52
anything about our website, I always put like a QR code. But if
2:52:56
you haven't go on there and give us a nice rating, it'll show up
2:53:00
on the web page. And if you can't find all our episodes, we
2:53:03
have them all on there. All of them are on there, and the
2:53:09
links to our discord are on there. At the very bottom of the page.
2:53:11
So if you want to get in on the discord and have a next
2:53:16
conversation with us during Roll SmackDown, annex here during any pay per view or
2:53:20
even a w events. All right, Doyle, do you have anything?
2:53:28
Yeah, you know, I'm I'm in the discord and in the in the
2:53:33
r I P PCL chats as well, and also on that website. It's
2:53:43
a blog. I have a nice piece up there about how Roman Remains never
2:53:46
defends his title. Check it out. Hopefully I will get something up there
2:53:52
every at least every couple of weeks. Maybe some of my other hosts will
2:53:56
contribute as well, who knows, but it is July fourth Eve, so
2:54:03
be sure. I'll leave out meltin cookies for mister America, even though we
2:54:07
may never know who he truly was right. And as for myself, you
2:54:16
guys can find me on Discord, Outlaw Star PCW PCL and find me in
2:54:22
the TCL Facebook group. Um. I think I think we would be remiss
2:54:30
if we did not touch on PCL because I think it's been a significant uh
2:54:39
podcast for all of us in terms of we've all been long time listeners of
2:54:45
it and to a certain extent. I think Wayne, you could probably say
2:54:48
it maybe have been inspired this the creation of this podcast itself. It's inspired
2:54:54
a number of podcasts and stuff. How many other podcasts is that? Like?
2:55:00
It's dozens, right, right, dozens of podcasts that the thing is
2:55:03
created and and for anybody who may still be in the dark at this point,
2:55:07
it's just ahead and say that. Brian announced recently. Brian, host
2:55:11
of Pop Culture Leftovers, announced recently that the show is going on and indefinite
2:55:16
hiatus, And if you want to know any further details about it, you
2:55:20
can go turn go into their feed on same places that you can find ours,
2:55:26
and listen to the last latest episode, the special announcement where he goes
2:55:31
into details about that. I'll let him speak for itself. M but since
2:55:35
we have this platform, I just want to take this moment and say first
2:55:41
and foremost thank you to Brian, Jake, Joe and anyone else who's ever
2:55:48
been on Pop Culture Leftovers, just for what you brought to me and so
2:55:54
many others throughout the years of that show. Um, I don't remember exactly
2:55:58
what episode I started listening to PCL, but I know it was years ago.
2:56:05
It was a number of years ago. In fact, it was the
2:56:09
It was the second podcast that I ever subscribed to. When I start first
2:56:15
started even listening to podcasts, the first one I subscribed to were like the
2:56:20
esp ones because sports, and then I searched. I just searched pop culture
2:56:24
and podcasts, and one of the first ones that came up was Pop Culture
2:56:30
Leftovers, and I listened to the episode and was immediately hooked. Like I
2:56:35
said, I don't remember exactly when. It was, probably somewhere in the
2:56:39
one hundreds, because I do remember listening to like episode two hundred and not
2:56:43
knowing what the hell was going on and why it was, like what the
2:56:46
fuck is this ship with everybody just coming in and talking. I'm like,
2:56:48
okay, okay, I see what this is. So I know I hopped
2:56:52
on somewhere in the hundreds, and like I said, he I wouldn't be
2:56:56
on this podcast here if it wasn't for Pop Culture Leftovers. They listening to
2:57:03
that show every week and being a part of the conversation and listening and having
2:57:09
my own thoughts in my head, like like again, like you want to
2:57:13
be part of the conversation, like you're talking to them even though they can't
2:57:16
hear you, and to have gone from there to appearing on Patreon episodes and
2:57:24
talking to Brian there to eventually reaching the point of being an actual guest on
2:57:31
an episode of PCL and remember how nervous I was about that, and just
2:57:39
working on this craft of podcasting and getting praise from someone who you respect and
2:57:45
admire in the podcasting space so much really meant a lot. Coming from Brian
2:57:50
and other people, and hearing praise from others about my appearances on that show,
2:57:56
We're really meant a lot. So for it's worth I just want to
2:58:01
say thank you to Brian and thank you to everyone on Pop Culture Leftovers.
2:58:07
Yeah. Absolutely, Um, you know, I wasn't listening since I think
2:58:11
it was like Infinity War, which is like almost like a little over four
2:58:16
and a half years ago, four or five years ago. If it wasn't
2:58:20
for Pop Cultural Leftovers, there would be no podcast Championship Wrestling because they were,
2:58:28
like you said, they were like my second podcasts ever downloaded, and
2:58:33
listening to them got me into podcasts in general and made me believe that,
2:58:39
hey, you know what, maybe we could start our own podcasts. You
2:58:45
know, I never would have had the faith of the courage to do this
2:58:48
show without them. It was actually Jake who approached me about starting, you
2:58:54
know, the podcast. And even though Jake couldn't make it on anymore because
2:58:58
he was so big busy with Pop Culture Leftovers and then he went off and
2:59:01
did his own thing. Um, you know, we're still going, uh,
2:59:07
you know, not as as as much of a burn as pop Culture
2:59:13
Leftovers. They go every week they have a new episode out and it's as
2:59:16
lengthy as ours, you know, maybe three to four hours. And you
2:59:20
know, for me as three to four hours a week, I'm spending with
2:59:24
Brian, I'm spending with Joe, I'm spending with Jake and the guests.
2:59:28
And throughout the years, I've made so many friends, and including Doyle Andre.
2:59:35
I mean, if it wasn't for Pop Cultural Leftovers, I want to
2:59:39
met you guys. Um. And that's how I got on, you know,
2:59:43
I got on Scene it casts and I've gotten on dissecting this this podcast.
2:59:50
I got on other shows because of that. I met other friends,
2:59:54
and I've hung out with other friends. I've gone to wrestling events because of
2:59:58
this. You know, all of this, it all comes together. It's
3:00:03
nice to go on their discord and anytime a Marvel trailer drops or a new
3:00:07
TV show comes out. I you know, I don't have You know,
3:00:13
you don't always have that many friends in your phone or in your household or
3:00:18
at work that you can go to and chat with about these kind of things.
3:00:22
But you always know that on Pop Culture Leftover's Discord, there's always somebody
3:00:26
on there who wants to talk about where you're into. You know, you
3:00:31
just got done watching the episode of Secret Invasion. You want to talk about
3:00:35
it. Yeah, you can go on Twitter, you could talk about it,
3:00:37
and you're not gonna get the full in depth conversation as you will if
3:00:43
you went on to Pop Culture Leftovers Discord and get the in depth conversation with
3:00:48
people. And and Brian would never skim through stuff like that. He would
3:00:54
always take the time to talk about those kind of subjects, you know,
3:00:58
whether it's Star Wars, Marvel, d see uh. And the most importantly
3:01:01
is he put the time aside to watch so much content and whether it was
3:01:07
good or bad. Um, even the shittiest things he would he would still
3:01:11
watch at least give us the benefit of the doubt of reviewing it. And
3:01:16
you know, just so much content I've seen over the years, and all
3:01:22
the streaming networks I'm subscribed to would not be if it wasn't for PCL.
3:01:28
So you know, from the bottom of my heart, I thank you guys
3:01:31
very very much for being there every week because if I'm having a shit week
3:01:39
or I'm a little depressed, I can always go to Pop Cultural Leftovers and
3:01:43
put my mind elsewhere. And you know, when you hear your friends are
3:01:48
on it, um, that's what's become more as it's not the host is
3:01:54
on Uh, it's more than just a host. It's it's friends now.
3:01:58
It's it's friends are on it. And now we've I've made so many friends
3:02:03
throughout the years that every time they get a guest on, it's one of
3:02:07
my friends. Now it's somebody I know, somebody I chat with online.
3:02:13
I've reached out even during the holidays and messaging a bunch of people you know
3:02:18
that you know have a great holiday and stuff. And it's not just ordinary
3:02:26
people. It's it's friends now, and from all over the world. I
3:02:31
mean, we're not just talking about all over the country. We even have
3:02:35
pop culture leftover friends over you know, across the ocean, across the sea.
3:02:41
You know, across the pond, as we like to say, So
3:02:43
they're all over the place. It's not just local. And now if I
3:02:50
ever head out west, you know, over in that area, I know
3:02:54
people who live in those states that I would always be willing to hit up
3:03:00
on my phone and DM them and be like, hey, listen, I'm
3:03:03
gonna be in your area. Would you want to cash a movie together?
3:03:07
Because that would be fucking awesome. So, bottom of my heart, thank
3:03:11
you very much, pop culture leftovers, We appreciate it. Yeah, yeah,
3:03:16
I would also certainly echo those sentiments. You know. Uh, when
3:03:24
I was a kid, one of my favorite shows, believe it or not,
3:03:26
was Cisco and Hubert. Loved Ciskel and Ubert because they would you know,
3:03:33
review you know, four or five six movies a week, and eventually
3:03:37
I would figure out, you know, if Roger didn't like something because of
3:03:43
X, Y and Z, you know what that means, I'm probably really
3:03:46
gonna like it, you know, like they hated dumb and dumber, you
3:03:50
know what I mean. I was like, well, even though they like,
3:03:54
you know, even though they didn't like it, means I probably will.
3:03:58
And I found out about movies I never would have heard about otherwise,
3:04:03
uh, you know, and fast forward twenty five, thirty years whatever.
3:04:09
I think I probably found PCL from one of the big Marvel movies. I'm
3:04:15
sure, Um, but I stayed because because everything you know, uh,
3:04:20
oh, you see a commercial that movie looks cool. Then you hear them
3:04:24
talking about it. You go, maybe they ain't so cool anymore, you
3:04:28
know, But I but you know, you start to get to learn,
3:04:31
Oh, if Brian liked it because of these reasons, I'll probably like it
3:04:35
too. Or if or if if Jake hated it because of this reason and
3:04:41
this reason, I'll probably like it, you know, or whatever. And
3:04:46
you know, when you spend that you know, three four or five hours
3:04:50
a week with people, whether you know him or not, you feel like
3:04:54
you know him. You know. I was only ever on one of the
3:05:01
hundred shows, and I had a disastrous appearance, uh believe it or not
3:05:07
do the technical issues. I know that's probably hard for you guys to understand
3:05:13
coming from uh, but uh, you know, I always was like,
3:05:18
oh, I would love to do that, but I would I would never
3:05:20
want to watch you know, three movies. I fucking hate it. You
3:05:26
know, you know, you know, it's just like God, you know
3:05:30
the for him, you know, Brian and Jake for years, and Joe
3:05:35
of course for doing that weekend and a week out and the gas even you
3:05:39
know, when you guys were on, I was like, how the fuck
3:05:41
do you have time to do to do uh pc W with all? I
3:05:46
can't imagine. It must be like a fucking part time down trying to do
3:05:50
that stuff. So yeah, I mean, fu kudos to them. Um
3:05:58
yeah, dude, it'll be hopefully maybe someday we'll get it back on some
3:06:03
some shape or form. I don't know. But Brian, if you're listening
3:06:07
to this now, you've got plenty of time to do a do a dark
3:06:11
side of the ring and or heels thing with us. Yeah yeah, yeah,
3:06:22
so from everybody, Yeah, I'm pretty sure everybody can. Everybody can
3:06:26
name at least a movie or a show or something that they would have never
3:06:31
watched or heard of. PCO multiple and how many things have I saved myself
3:06:39
from wasting time on because like I don't look cool, but yeah they say
3:06:43
it isn't time like my girl will come. Oh do you see the commercial
3:06:46
for now? They tossed it. I'll tossed it. Well, I'm pretty
3:06:54
sure everybody has talked with somebody else about something and the moment and it's popped
3:06:58
in your head where you almost called it a tupperware but had to catch yourself
3:07:03
because they don't they wouldn't have gotten it. There's been so many times where
3:07:09
I've been typing something up like oh yeah, dude, total tupwear like wait,
3:07:13
bait backspace, backspace, backspace? This a PCO. Yeah. We
3:07:18
all have those shared memories and things like that. Like I said, I
3:07:22
can basically say off the top of my head, like when an anime movie,
3:07:26
Um, your voice, I mean not your voice? Is that what
3:07:30
it's called? A silent voice? That's what it was called. Yeah.
3:07:35
I would have never watched that. It wasn't in my wheelhouse, but Brian
3:07:39
raved about it so much that I watched it because of him. What was
3:07:43
the movie that I not there? The Afghanistan movie? The cartoon? But
3:07:48
it was a documentary. Does anyone remember what I'm talking about? Fuck?
3:07:54
Is it something recent? No? A couple of years ago. They have
3:08:01
a four hundred sixty something episode, so we got a lot to go through
3:08:03
him. Yeah. It got nominated for Best document It was the first animated
3:08:09
movie yet nominated for Best Documentary. It was a ship. Well anyway,
3:08:15
I would have never seen that if they hadn't raved and you know about it.
3:08:20
Uh So that for me is a standout, Like let me try to
3:08:22
google it real quick. You guys vamped performing. Yeah, Like I said,
3:08:26
we've all got those things that we can directly attribute to PCL And again
3:08:33
to your point Wayne about the rotating cast of guests that have been on that
3:08:39
show, ye are like, again, you feel that connection to him,
3:08:45
that kindred to him, you know, before Joe, before Joe became a
3:08:50
host, anytime he was appearing on an episode, he's like, oh Joe
3:08:52
there, Oh, we got us a good Win or somebody like Tristan or
3:08:56
or Queen Yeah or Paul Hard or Queen Rebecca, Like she's not She's not
3:09:03
Rebecca Daily. She's Queen Rebecca to all of us. Because any episodes of
3:09:09
Flee was the movie I was thinking about. By the way, Flee Okay,
3:09:13
there was an episode of popocas the Leftovers was it was it was the
3:09:16
heroes and noise guys were the guests. Uh I remember on one of the
3:09:20
reviews was the Blockbuster Documentary, but for whatever reason, that episode six out
3:09:26
of my head as being just I just laughed and laughed and laughed for five
3:09:35
hours or whatever it was. I don't remember, it was probably like two
3:09:39
years ago or whatever. The episodes episodes like that felt extra special too when
3:09:45
when you gotta because I also listened to Heroes of Noise too, So when
3:09:48
you I got like a PCL and Heroes of Noise collabal was like, oh
3:09:50
shit, yeah right right, always made me excited when And my favorite thing
3:09:58
about Brian and in his method of podcasting is I listen to other podcasts as
3:10:05
well, and the format of other podcasts are so strict and so tight and
3:10:11
so under the microscope. But but Brian's is so off the cup of a
3:10:18
lot of things. And not just that it's like he doesn't like he had
3:10:24
very strict rules like no religion and politics, right, But other than that,
3:10:28
it was like everything else with a fair game. Everything's everything, Like
3:10:33
they could be talking about things they look like vaginas for like a half hour.
3:10:39
Like Brian never censored himself and he just did well, He's just himself
3:10:45
and that's why. And I thought about that with this podcast, I was
3:10:48
like, nobody has to sit here and fucking censors. I always click that
3:10:52
explicit button before I hit published, because we just do whatever the fuck we
3:10:56
want on our show, and if our fans like it, they stick around.
3:11:01
If they don't, you know, find another fucking podcast. But h
3:11:05
and that Brian was under the same mentality, you know, like, if
3:11:09
you don't like it, fucking tough shit. And you know, and he
3:11:13
got He still has a lot of followers, I mean, because Brian was
3:11:20
just being himself. And that's what was always great about that podcast. He
3:11:24
didn't have somebody hovering over him telling him what he could and could not say.
3:11:28
So I always liked and respected that well, the simple the simple fact
3:11:33
that we're here at all. And and like I said, how many dozens
3:11:37
and dozens of other podcasts exists because of PCL. You know that that alone,
3:11:46
it should be a testament to the reach it had and he continues to
3:11:52
have even though it sort of doesn't exist anymore. That's something. Yeah,
3:11:58
that's something that other podcasts that are far bigger than anything we've put out can't
3:12:01
sit can't claim, they can't say that they spawned a whole community of other
3:12:07
podcasters and other shows. Yep, Joe tips so by most respect PCL,
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to Brian, to Jake, to Joe, and to everybody else. Love
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to everybody in the PCL community, to the leftover army. And if I
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had a bell, I'd be ringing it. I'd be giving you a ten
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bell count. But hopefully this is close enough. Yeah, well, hopefully
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this isn't goodbye forever. Hopefully it's just goodbye for now. Yeah us,
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it's not goodbye, it's just see you later. Yep, I am gonna
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play us off with some July fourth music. Here we go, fellas,
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and so my fellow America, and not what your country can do, broke
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what you to your country. I am a real American Africa every man.
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I am a real American fight who what's right? Fight by your And his
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name is jore Knew what I want, get very what I want, my
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whisper. It's differ. It doesn't matter what you're learning. Oh yeah,
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we'll screw you guys. I'm going home. Bye. Half a great time.