Latest / The Bolt Report / The Bolt Report | 8 July
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- 0:10Speaker 1: He's the reformed.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Tonight sold the albanize A government let's foreigners by Tasmania's
- 0:18Speaker 2: biggest farm for a global warming scheme. Prince Harry loses
- 0:23Speaker 2: a huge court case and maybe tens of millions of
- 0:26Speaker 2: dollars plus a Nigel Arraja's bizarre resignation a fake one.
- 0:32Speaker 2: But what is his gain? And why is Pauline Hanson,
- 0:35Speaker 2: by the way, looking so relaxed? But first, Pauline Hansen
- 0:42Speaker 2: has provoked Labor and Anthony Albanezi into doing something even
- 0:46Speaker 2: more stupidly divisive to defend the welcome to country, in fact,
- 0:51Speaker 2: to insist on it. Yes, Labor is fighting the Hansen
- 0:56Speaker 2: challenge by rewriting its draft national policy ahead of its
- 1:00Speaker 2: national conference to defend and I quote the importance of
- 1:04Speaker 2: welcome to country and acknowledgement of country ceremonies.
- 1:09Speaker 1: Now, you would have thought that Labor.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Bosses would have worked out by now that this was
- 1:13Speaker 2: exactly the wrong way to go, absolutely wrong, with Hans
- 1:17Speaker 2: as one nation party now stealing many Labor voters, many
- 1:22Speaker 2: of them say they just want their country back, and
- 1:26Speaker 2: Hanson is dead against welcomes to country. And I suspect
- 1:29Speaker 2: a lot of the other astrants are working out that
- 1:31Speaker 2: these ceremonies are at best a joke and at worst
- 1:36Speaker 2: dangerously divisive and racist.
- 1:40Speaker 1: For instance, you see them used.
- 1:42Speaker 2: By activist pedaling fake history with very little welcome.
- 1:47Speaker 3: I'm here this evening to perform a ceremony, a ceremony
- 1:51Speaker 3: of welcome to country. Are welcome to country is not
- 1:55Speaker 3: a welcome to Australia. Within Australia, we have many Aboriginal
- 2:00Speaker 3: lands and we refer to our lands as country, so
- 2:04Speaker 3: it's always so welcome to the lands you're gathered on. Well,
- 2:08Speaker 3: Welcome to country is not a ceremony that we've invented
- 2:12Speaker 3: to cater for white people. It's a ceremony we've been
- 2:17Speaker 3: doing for two hundred and fifty thousand years plus BC,
- 2:22Speaker 3: and the BC stands for before Cook.
- 2:28Speaker 2: The fact of welcome to country ceremony, as we know
- 2:30Speaker 2: it wasn't invented two hundred and fifty thousand years ago,
- 2:34Speaker 2: but fifty and Aboriginies weren't here more than i'd say
- 2:39Speaker 2: fifty thousand years ago, so really it was actually invented
- 2:45Speaker 2: in this form these ceremonies in ninety seventy six by
- 2:47Speaker 2: television presenter Ernie dinger musician Richard Whaley for a festival.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Or you also can.
- 2:54Speaker 2: Get this supposedly traditional welcome to country delivered by people
- 3:00Speaker 2: extremely untraditional, like the Muslim man who gave this welcome
- 3:04Speaker 2: to the country at Melbourne University.
- 3:07Speaker 4: My name is Andrew Gardner, but Haussen is my what's name?
- 3:13Speaker 1: We'redre man of the war?
- 3:14Speaker 5: Are people someone avertim was from Australian since nineteen ninety five.
- 3:22Speaker 2: Or if you prefer, you can get a welcome from
- 3:24Speaker 2: someone who has lots of non aberaginal ancestry as well,
- 3:29Speaker 2: but still plays that race card that makes people with
- 3:31Speaker 2: no average of ancestry feel very unwelcome, indeed, like the
- 3:37Speaker 2: woman at an AFL Women's League game.
- 3:41Speaker 6: Before proceeding with today's for Maladies, I wish to briefly
- 3:44Speaker 6: draw attention to a national crisis affecting aberge entaishied children
- 3:48Speaker 6: and young people in youth detention. The drivers of this
- 3:51Speaker 6: crisis are well known, the ongoine impacts of colonizations, systemic racism,
- 3:55Speaker 6: limited recognition of sovereignty, resistant to indigenous leadership, a continued
- 3:59Speaker 6: land in economic possession.
- 4:03Speaker 2: Feeling welcome yet now no wonder many people have had
- 4:07Speaker 2: it with these supposed to welcomes, they just foster resentment
- 4:10Speaker 2: division and many people who feel that way. Now it
- 4:15Speaker 2: seems to me voting for Pauline Hanson. But here comes
- 4:19Speaker 2: to labor saying we're going to fight Hanson on this.
- 4:24Speaker 2: But today I have to say that labor fight started
- 4:27Speaker 2: very badly when albourny Easy was asked at a press
- 4:31Speaker 2: conference Prime Minister, why this divisive ceremony?
- 4:38Speaker 1: Why is it a good idea.
- 4:44Speaker 4: I'm not focused on.
- 4:47Speaker 7: Cultural wars, never have been.
- 4:51Speaker 1: Oh that's a bit dishonest, isn't it.
- 4:53Speaker 2: I mean, labor demanding welcomes to country is labor fighting
- 4:57Speaker 2: a culture.
- 4:58Speaker 1: War, ramming down our throat.
- 5:01Speaker 2: And it got worse when Albanize then defended these welcomes,
- 5:03Speaker 2: which often, as you know, features someone I didn't find's Aboriginal,
- 5:07Speaker 2: welcoming other Australians to their own country as if they
- 5:12Speaker 2: were and always will be strangers.
- 5:15Speaker 7: I'll tell you what I don't know. It hurts anyone
- 5:18Speaker 7: for people to be polite and if I come into
- 5:22Speaker 7: your home, I'll knock on the door and I'll say
- 5:26Speaker 7: it's okay.
- 5:27Speaker 4: If I come in, you go, yeah, welcome.
- 5:32Speaker 2: Let's first clear up the historical error. Again, these welcomes
- 5:35Speaker 2: in this form are not thousands.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Of years old.
- 5:38Speaker 2: They were invented fifty years ago. But that's equibbal. More
- 5:43Speaker 2: serious is that Albanize in labor really do like and
- 5:46Speaker 2: welcomes the country to a welcome to your home Albant.
- 5:50Speaker 2: Is you like this analogy so much that it repeated it.
- 5:54Speaker 7: Someone saying, is it okay if I come under your country?
- 6:02Speaker 2: Are there actually anything like the same? I mean, so
- 6:07Speaker 2: those of us with no aboriginal ancestors must always be
- 6:11Speaker 2: welcomed to our own country as if it's not our
- 6:17Speaker 2: home as well. Now, how socially destructive is that? And
- 6:22Speaker 2: how racist by the way I mean? And yes, racist,
- 6:25Speaker 2: because I managed once to convince even prominent abriageal activist
- 6:29Speaker 2: Noel Pearson, one of the authors of The Voice, that
- 6:31Speaker 2: of course people don't be thorn here are indigenous too,
- 6:38Speaker 2: or at least becoming so even if an ABC type
- 6:42Speaker 2: peanut brigade horse laughs at that idea, an idea they
- 6:45Speaker 2: were too witless to understand or to answer.
- 6:49Speaker 8: I had to come to that somewhat uncomfortable conclusion that
- 6:54Speaker 8: even Andrew Bolt was becoming indigenous because the bones of
- 7:04Speaker 8: his ancestors are now becoming part of the territory.
- 7:12Speaker 2: So you know, any other person in my position, are
- 7:15Speaker 2: we not indigenous?
- 7:16Speaker 1: What are we? You know, rabbits or foxes?
- 7:19Speaker 2: He seriously, now, Howbanies may argue that a welcome to
- 7:25Speaker 2: the country.
- 7:26Speaker 1: Is Look, look, don't worry.
- 7:27Speaker 2: You know, it's really just symbolic, just as he said,
- 7:30Speaker 2: a politeness, as if the rest of us, of course,
- 7:33Speaker 2: would never be denied entry to say Melbourne or Sydney
- 7:38Speaker 2: or Brisbane or whatever. You know, it's all pro former.
- 7:42Speaker 2: But in that case, Alvin, is he liking that?
- 7:45Speaker 1: Liking it? To you?
- 7:48Speaker 2: Welcoming someone into your home is plainly false because we
- 7:54Speaker 2: homeowners often do stop people at our front door, say
- 7:58Speaker 2: no to salesman.
- 7:59Speaker 1: We don't live in strain.
- 8:00Speaker 2: We don't need in pests or people knocking when we're
- 8:03Speaker 2: trying to sleep, or we might even be out shopping.
- 8:06Speaker 2: So no, absolutely not, you can't come in now. Is
- 8:09Speaker 2: that really the kind of thing that labor has in mind,
- 8:12Speaker 2: where this welcomes to the country where you might be
- 8:15Speaker 2: welcomed or you might be not because it's their home
- 8:17Speaker 2: not yours. And maybe it is because already you need
- 8:22Speaker 2: a permit to visit supposedly sacred places such as Zannum
- 8:26Speaker 2: Land and Lake Air, and you can't climb ul Aru
- 8:30Speaker 2: or an increasing number of other Aboriginal landmarks.
- 8:34Speaker 1: So you can tell where this is going.
- 8:38Speaker 2: Under labor I suspect flavor gets this way, welcome to
- 8:43Speaker 2: country will become more prescriptive and divisive.
- 8:48Speaker 1: And who does this help, really? Who does this help.
- 8:52Speaker 2: To tell our millions of migrants particularly, this is and
- 8:56Speaker 2: always will be land that's not theirs? Who does it
- 9:00Speaker 2: help to keep insisting on that we were here first
- 9:04Speaker 2: racial division when we intermarry. So much in the offering,
- 9:08Speaker 2: could aly guess that even a person doing a welcome
- 9:11Speaker 2: to country was Aboriginal.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Unless they'd told you.
- 9:15Speaker 2: It's all so destructive and pointless. I haven't seen anyone
- 9:22Speaker 2: does any good except for the people's pocketing. They're welcome
- 9:25Speaker 2: to country speech fee in their pocket, and our doubts
- 9:28Speaker 2: even genuine.
- 9:31Speaker 1: Because here's a test.
- 9:33Speaker 2: Let's see what happens one day when some elder hired
- 9:37Speaker 2: to do a welcome to country the MCG, for instance,
- 9:40Speaker 2: looks up at the crowd and says, actually, no, you're
- 9:45Speaker 2: not welcome, go away, leave my house. Would one hundred
- 9:52Speaker 2: thousand people really then leave the MCG the elder's home
- 9:57Speaker 2: or would they insist, no, it's really ours too. What
- 10:02Speaker 2: would al it easy?
- 10:03Speaker 3: Do?
- 10:05Speaker 2: So let us ask him, let him tell us is
- 10:09Speaker 2: the Welcome to Country under Labor meaningless or only too
- 10:14Speaker 2: dangerously real? Okay, first it was Optus, Today it's Telstra,
- 10:23Speaker 2: another big communications outage and another big reminder of how
- 10:27Speaker 2: vulnerable we are, especially to a cyber attack one day
- 10:31Speaker 2: from a hostile power. Now this outage today is actually
- 10:36Speaker 2: an accident, but you just look at the results. I
- 10:38Speaker 2: mean you have Telstra calls and data down for as
- 10:41Speaker 2: long as five hours, but more than that. I mean
- 10:44Speaker 2: all regional train services in Victoria were canceled and also
- 10:48Speaker 2: some lines in New South Wales. Joining me is the
- 10:51Speaker 2: political panel Camera and Milner, former Chief Stuff, the labor leader,
- 10:54Speaker 2: Bill Shortener, now Director of g XO Strategies, and Michael Costa,
- 10:59Speaker 2: former New South Wales Labor Treasurer.
- 11:03Speaker 1: Cameron.
- 11:03Speaker 2: We are looking more and more vulnerable. You know, You've
- 11:06Speaker 2: got these outages, you have the threat last month to
- 11:09Speaker 2: petrol supplies. You've got more and more potholes in our
- 11:12Speaker 2: main roads, especially in Victoria. I mean, what is the
- 11:15Speaker 2: message from today's outage because I don't recall hearing about
- 11:19Speaker 2: this kind of thing in most advanced countries that are
- 11:22Speaker 2: know of.
- 11:24Speaker 1: Well, that's right, isn't it.
- 11:25Speaker 9: I mean, we have to be a lot more secure
- 11:26Speaker 9: about our borders, you know, and a lot more serious
- 11:29Speaker 9: about and not complacent about our vulnerability with technology.
- 11:32Speaker 1: And that's the issue.
- 11:33Speaker 9: I mean, obviously it was a stuff up rather than
- 11:35Speaker 9: China today, But what if it was China tomorrow, Andrew,
- 11:38Speaker 9: what if it was some other foreign activists who was
- 11:40Speaker 9: actually intervening in our power grid, our telecommunications. Where's the
- 11:43Speaker 9: nation of vulnerable because the government's been complacent for too
- 11:46Speaker 9: long to these sorts of threats and the vulnerabilities our
- 11:49Speaker 9: society faces.
- 11:52Speaker 2: And don't forget China could also perhaps it seems from
- 11:55Speaker 2: experts and they suggest it could flick a kill switch and
- 11:59Speaker 2: any Chinese made car that's on the road. But Michael,
- 12:04Speaker 2: what is the message?
- 12:06Speaker 10: The message is we've got incompetent management and incompetent government.
- 12:09Speaker 10: I mean, look, these things will happen, Andrew, outside of war.
- 12:13Speaker 10: I mean I expect in a war situation that will
- 12:16Speaker 10: be part of the strategy. And there are weapons that
- 12:18Speaker 10: I think we have when I say we the Western
- 12:20Speaker 10: Alliance as well as our enemies that will attack these
- 12:24Speaker 10: systems because it's obvious you've got to attack those systems. Well,
- 12:27Speaker 10: I find extraordinary this is whether it's an accident or
- 12:31Speaker 10: a normal malfunction. How did they manage the crisis? You know,
- 12:36Speaker 10: firstly the Minister went to ground, the CEO went to ground,
- 12:39Speaker 10: no communication and certainly no attempt at creating some backup
- 12:45Speaker 10: systems that we discussed in the Optice situation to ensure
- 12:49Speaker 10: critical services. And I think you can isolate some of
- 12:51Speaker 10: the critical services were protected. That's what worries me. We've
- 12:55Speaker 10: got incompetent management that takes big salaries and incompetent government.
- 13:01Speaker 2: Now talking about managerial incompetence. Cameron. There's been more chaos
- 13:08Speaker 2: with the government screen agenda. You've got big wind farms
- 13:11Speaker 2: today demanding more government handouts before they go ahead. You
- 13:15Speaker 2: know the federal government's counting on them. You've got the
- 13:18Speaker 2: government handing and astonishing five hundred and fifty million dollars
- 13:22Speaker 2: to a green hydrogen plant that turns out not to
- 13:25Speaker 2: cut much.
- 13:25Speaker 1: Admissions at all.
- 13:27Speaker 2: And to top it off, you've got the Treasurer approving
- 13:30Speaker 2: the sale of Tasmania's biggest farm, the twenty two thousand
- 13:35Speaker 2: hectar Rushy Lagoon Dairy and bee farm, to a British company,
- 13:39Speaker 2: not to grow food, not to raise cattle, not to
- 13:43Speaker 2: raise sheep or dairy, but to grow trees to cut emissions,
- 13:48Speaker 2: to capture the carbon. It sounds to me utterly bizarre
- 13:52Speaker 2: to turn great farmland into another global warming scheme.
- 13:59Speaker 9: Absolutely, and it's absolute sheer lunacy, sheer lunacy that we
- 14:02Speaker 9: would take productive farmland that is producing milk and in
- 14:05Speaker 9: a beef and grain, but farmland that's desperately need in
- 14:08Speaker 9: Australia like this and put trees on it. And not
- 14:11Speaker 9: only that, Andrew, get this. The only way the BRIT's
- 14:14Speaker 9: are actually buying this land is with taxpayers money. The
- 14:17Speaker 9: Clean Energy Finance Corporation is using taxpayers money to.
- 14:21Speaker 1: Make this work.
- 14:21Speaker 9: They're actually coming up with the money so they can
- 14:23Speaker 9: buy the farm, to shut the cows down and put
- 14:25Speaker 9: trees on it.
- 14:26Speaker 2: This is sheer lunacy, sheer lunacy.
- 14:28Speaker 9: And to your point before, I mean the stuff with
- 14:30Speaker 9: orac Are up in Newcastle is forty times forty times
- 14:34Speaker 9: the current abatement for uce like for the five hundred
- 14:36Speaker 9: and fifty million dollars. Even if they cannibate with this
- 14:38Speaker 9: green hydrogen, it's still unproven. So yeah, we are throwing
- 14:41Speaker 9: money out the window, Andrew on woke programs that don't work.
- 14:47Speaker 2: But Michael, I mean, just listening to camera and outline
- 14:51Speaker 2: all that stuff. You think you're in a particularly stupid
- 14:54Speaker 2: series of Yes, minister, but it's real, and it's happening
- 14:58Speaker 2: in front of our eyes. Serious people or supposedly serious people,
- 15:03Speaker 2: politicians look at you clear eye and say this is
- 15:06Speaker 2: what we're going to do.
- 15:07Speaker 10: I mean, it's nuts, It's completely nuts. And look, the
- 15:11Speaker 10: bottom line is the green dream is turning into the
- 15:13Speaker 10: green nightmare. We all know that this sort of renewable
- 15:16Speaker 10: energy has now become the most costly form of energy,
- 15:19Speaker 10: and it's costly because of the very things you're discussing, Andrew.
- 15:22Speaker 10: And you know what annoys me the most. The only
- 15:24Speaker 10: people benefiting are sort of rent seekers and crony capitalists.
- 15:28Speaker 10: And you can see these very clearly out of this process.
- 15:31Speaker 10: And the virtue signal is who drive around their electric
- 15:34Speaker 10: cars at the expense of everybody else. Forget that when
- 15:37Speaker 10: you do something like this, you take away food supplies
- 15:41Speaker 10: from the sort of billion or so people that are
- 15:44Speaker 10: malnourished in the world. You know, you've got to pick
- 15:46Speaker 10: your virtue signaling and pick the one that's got the
- 15:49Speaker 10: most credibility, and I would to afford feeding people is
- 15:52Speaker 10: more important than costly power for evs. So it's a
- 15:57Speaker 10: disaster and it doesn't hit those core elements that we
- 16:00Speaker 10: know that they cannot do without concrete, fertilizers, steel, plastics,
- 16:06Speaker 10: all the things, aviation field, all of the things that
- 16:09Speaker 10: make our economy go, they cannot be sustained.
- 16:14Speaker 2: And let's not forget the bottom line. Every time, it's
- 16:16Speaker 2: got to be said, we're too small to make any
- 16:19Speaker 2: measurable difference to the climate no matter what we do.
- 16:22Speaker 2: All this is purely performative and costly. But Cameron, I
- 16:27Speaker 2: mean that aside. I mean that's mad enough. What we
- 16:30Speaker 2: just discussed, that is mad enough. But this has been
- 16:34Speaker 2: such a bizarre week in politics. I've never I don't think,
- 16:37Speaker 2: seen anything like it in my life. And not just
- 16:40Speaker 2: because China's just fired and nuclear capable missile in our
- 16:44Speaker 2: general direction. We've also got the Australian Prime Minister declaring
- 16:48Speaker 2: he'd like to quote apologies again, shag singer Kylie Minogue
- 16:53Speaker 2: and making crude Benny hillstyle jokes about the Japanese Prime
- 16:57Speaker 2: Minister's melons. Get it all this while the OECD warns
- 17:02Speaker 2: that real wages in this country have fallen more than
- 17:04Speaker 2: focusing in five years, one of the worst falls it's
- 17:07Speaker 2: recorded in the developed world. To me, Cameron, the pictures
- 17:12Speaker 2: of a deeply unseerious country facing very serious times.
- 17:19Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more.
- 17:20Speaker 9: And we saw arrogant albow, didn't we. Mister untouchable, he
- 17:22Speaker 9: could crack appalling jokes. I mean it was cringe and
- 17:25Speaker 9: got this is creepy, just creepy, andrew some of the
- 17:28Speaker 9: jokes he cracked. I mean, I mean this is the problem,
- 17:30Speaker 9: and this is the bloke is not up to the
- 17:31Speaker 9: job anyway and has gone from being a prime minister
- 17:34Speaker 9: in the lodge to the prime misogynist in the lodge.
- 17:36Speaker 9: He was a shocking week from him.
- 17:39Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you make of that, Michael.
- 17:43Speaker 10: Well, clearly he's, you know, the Celeste Patterson of Australian politics.
- 17:47Speaker 10: I mean he's a character, sure of the character, sure,
- 17:51Speaker 10: but you know what I find in true just about
- 17:53Speaker 10: that issue. I'm waiting for him to get his earning
- 17:55Speaker 10: award from you know, the sort of left lovely feminist
- 17:59Speaker 10: you know, yes, Julia Gillard standing about it. But look
- 18:03Speaker 10: what's most appalling about that is Andrew. He did that
- 18:07Speaker 10: interview to try and reconnect with I don't know, the
- 18:10Speaker 10: young people. I assume at a time when he's cut
- 18:12Speaker 10: them out of wealth creation. You know, he's forcing their
- 18:15Speaker 10: frends up in his silly budget measures, and he's also
- 18:18Speaker 10: cut them out of the equities market with the way
- 18:21Speaker 10: he's bul bungled that particular reform. So yes, it is unserious,
- 18:26Speaker 10: but he's there.
- 18:28Speaker 1: He's arrogant.
- 18:29Speaker 10: The hubris is all over this, and you know why,
- 18:32Speaker 10: it's because the coalition and the writer is divided.
- 18:37Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's interesting, Cameron.
- 18:39Speaker 2: The Prime Minister issued a six word apology and I
- 18:44Speaker 2: apologize for the comments I made, but that's it. I
- 18:48Speaker 2: wonder has he apologized to the and no one's asked
- 18:51Speaker 2: in this which stuns me. Prime Minister, have you apologized
- 18:55Speaker 2: to Japan's Prime minister for making fun of a gift
- 18:58Speaker 2: of a royal melon and then going on to do
- 19:02Speaker 2: a Benny Hill type gift joke about her melon's plural,
- 19:07Speaker 2: waving his hands around the general breast the area.
- 19:12Speaker 9: I know, this is sick thing to watch. Wasn't a
- 19:14Speaker 9: hand I mean this is like, it's your point, Benny
- 19:16Speaker 9: Hill would be a way of saying nicely. I mean,
- 19:18Speaker 9: he's just a foul old man basically on TV. I
- 19:21Speaker 9: mean that's what it came down to, dirty old man.
- 19:23Speaker 1: I mean.
- 19:24Speaker 9: And so this is the situation where where you know,
- 19:26Speaker 9: he's fangirls in his press club, then he's meeting you,
- 19:28Speaker 9: put out a six word apology. He can't even say
- 19:31Speaker 9: it on camera. He hit the camera today. He couldn't
- 19:33Speaker 9: even say sorry on camera, Andrew. So this is the problem.
- 19:36Speaker 9: So yes, I mean, a disgrace in the officer prime minister,
- 19:38Speaker 9: a liability on the on the international stage, denigrating a
- 19:42Speaker 9: female prime minister who's actually standing up to China a lot,
- 19:45Speaker 9: a lot more than this elbow bloke walking around the
- 19:47Speaker 9: Pacific currently.
- 19:50Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 19:51Speaker 2: Absolutely, Cameron Milner, Michael Costa, thank you very much to
- 19:54Speaker 2: you both after the break, talking about the green energy Chozzle,
- 19:58Speaker 2: a green energy company creates by Labour's big climate guru collapses.
- 20:04Speaker 2: The abdizy governments global warming plans really are becoming a joke.
- 20:12Speaker 2: Labor is now so fanatically committed to fighting global warming
- 20:17Speaker 2: that doesn't care about the cost and it's just so
- 20:20Speaker 2: many and like a climate don keyxote windmills and all.
- 20:26Speaker 2: I have given an example from today the Prime Minister
- 20:29Speaker 2: it was today promoting his seventy million dollar scheme to
- 20:34Speaker 2: help Volvo sell its electric trucks. But check out his
- 20:38Speaker 2: wild claims.
- 20:41Speaker 7: This is a seventy million dollar investment from the Comworth government.
- 20:45Speaker 7: This we'll see more Australian made trucks on the roads.
- 20:48Speaker 7: And we know that electric trucks are also cheaper to
- 20:51Speaker 7: run and maintain over time, which will lower transport costs
- 20:55Speaker 7: through the economy and therefore put downward pressure on inflation,
- 21:00Speaker 7: which we want to see as well. So good for
- 21:03Speaker 7: the economy, good for the environment, and good for your
- 21:06Speaker 7: hip pocket.
- 21:09Speaker 2: Actually, no, it's not good for your hip pocket unless
- 21:12Speaker 2: you're happen to be buying one of the thirty trucks
- 21:15Speaker 2: three zero truck so far that Volvo is building for
- 21:18Speaker 2: Limp Fox. Your taxes are helping to pay for them,
- 21:23Speaker 2: even though you'll never own one, you'll never drive one,
- 21:26Speaker 2: you probably won't even ever see one. So I'm quite
- 21:29Speaker 2: sure how it's helping you with your hip pocket when
- 21:33Speaker 2: you're paying and not enjoying. And albaniz Is claimed that
- 21:37Speaker 2: these trucks are you know, it can only be good
- 21:41Speaker 2: for your hip pocket if the government's actually throwing taxpayer
- 21:44Speaker 2: money at you. Now, the government's own climate change department
- 21:48Speaker 2: itself has said this seventy million dollar finance package from
- 21:51Speaker 2: the government helps more operators to choose Australia made battery
- 21:55Speaker 2: electric trucks buy addressing cost barriers.
- 22:00Speaker 1: So what cost barriers could they be?
- 22:03Speaker 2: Well, the driven that's a website about electric trucks and
- 22:07Speaker 2: so on, says zero and low missions trucks can be
- 22:10Speaker 2: two to four times more expensive than a diesel truck
- 22:14Speaker 2: for the same task. Who was running about exactly this deal.
- 22:18Speaker 2: So and what's more, it goes on to say, uncertainty
- 22:21Speaker 2: about the depreciation rate means lower residual value expectations and
- 22:26Speaker 2: higher lessing costs. So really it's not easy on your
- 22:30Speaker 2: hip pocket. And all green schemes are just a money pit.
- 22:35Speaker 2: And you know, the latest to find that out a
- 22:38Speaker 2: little bit ironic. The global warming expert whose report persuaded
- 22:45Speaker 2: the rud Labor government to push for his scheme to
- 22:48Speaker 2: cut emissions. Ross Garneau, an academic who went on to
- 22:53Speaker 2: co found a renewable energy retailer called Zen Energy that's
- 22:58Speaker 2: now a dear collapsed, forced into administration in one of
- 23:03Speaker 2: the biggest corporate failures of Australia's clean energy transition and
- 23:08Speaker 2: one of the big problems it faced. There is such
- 23:12Speaker 2: a thing as a wind drought. In fact, we had
- 23:16Speaker 2: another big one just last month. The wind doesn't blow,
- 23:19Speaker 2: you have no power for consumers, very expensive and for
- 23:22Speaker 2: retailers who committed to finding electricity for their customers, like
- 23:27Speaker 2: Zen Energy, it has turned out to be fatal. And
- 23:31Speaker 2: it's a huge problem in Europe too. I mean so
- 23:33Speaker 2: much so that the Germans, after suffering wind droughts, gave
- 23:37Speaker 2: it what's now a German name known around the world
- 23:40Speaker 2: for this phenomenon, dunkel Flalter meaning dark lull. I was
- 23:46Speaker 2: joined earlier by energy policy commentator Christina Talaco, co founder
- 23:50Speaker 2: of Glows Strategies, the global advisory firm on energy and
- 23:54Speaker 2: critical minerals and on the Border beyond zero emissions. Seeing
- 24:00Speaker 2: it to Lacho, thank you so much for your time.
- 24:02Speaker 2: So we have so many wind companies now demanding just
- 24:07Speaker 2: today we read demanding a handout from the government to
- 24:11Speaker 2: push the accelerator on particularly New South Wales. What is
- 24:15Speaker 2: going on with this move to renewables.
- 24:18Speaker 11: The government decided that the policy will be renewables, which
- 24:23Speaker 11: is a mix of wind, will be solar, and it's
- 24:26Speaker 11: a lot of storage and we need backup.
- 24:30Speaker 12: So at the moment, because we have no other alternative,
- 24:34Speaker 12: call is retiring. Eventually, either we keep rolling out going
- 24:40Speaker 12: on the same pathway as the government wishes to do,
- 24:44Speaker 12: or we just say this planet is probably not working
- 24:47Speaker 12: so well for austrilliance. Priss of electricity are going up.
- 24:51Speaker 2: It sounds stupidly dangerous to me, given, you know, unlike Denmark,
- 24:56Speaker 2: which said, oh we'll go really hardcore when they could
- 24:59Speaker 2: get if it didn't work, and it didn't, they could
- 25:02Speaker 2: get power from countries around them. Germany could get power
- 25:06Speaker 2: from France from its nuclear reactors when it tried to
- 25:11Speaker 2: go you know, we won't do cold fire power and
- 25:14Speaker 2: we'll turn down turn off our own nuclear power stations.
- 25:18Speaker 2: It could still get power from other countries. We don't
- 25:21Speaker 2: have a long extension called to any other country, and
- 25:24Speaker 2: yet we've done this. Does that strike you as a
- 25:27Speaker 2: little foolish.
- 25:29Speaker 12: I guess there's always the optimism that Australia and this
- 25:32Speaker 12: is why the policy went this way, is that Australia
- 25:35Speaker 12: has a lot of sun a lot of sunshine, a
- 25:38Speaker 12: lot of potential winds, so we can do that just
- 25:41Speaker 12: with renewables. But the reality, as you mentioned, is a
- 25:44Speaker 12: lot of countries that were following that pathway, including Germany,
- 25:48Speaker 12: when they turned off their nuclear power.
- 25:51Speaker 11: Stations, they found themselves in big trouble.
- 25:55Speaker 2: No, it just seems to me, you know, drained up
- 25:59Speaker 2: with a VSA of the wind always blowing the sun away,
- 26:02Speaker 2: is shining, nothing ever going wrong sort of, you know,
- 26:05Speaker 2: and you know, fluffy lambs dancing around the meadows. But
- 26:10Speaker 2: it doesn't work that way. What would have been a
- 26:13Speaker 2: more effective and reliable source of no emissions power, he says,
- 26:18Speaker 2: knowing the answer.
- 26:20Speaker 12: Well, you know that I believe in nuclear energy. It's
- 26:24Speaker 12: been proven that it works in many countries like France.
- 26:27Speaker 12: It's about seventy percent nuclear.
- 26:29Speaker 11: This is where I live at the.
- 26:30Speaker 12: Moment, and nuclear should be considered by Australia. We have
- 26:34Speaker 12: a lot of uranium, we have the capability, we have
- 26:37Speaker 12: skills have acas now, but nuclear is really one of
- 26:41Speaker 12: the very few. It's not the only zero emission sources
- 26:44Speaker 12: that run regardless or weather. So it runs day and nights,
- 26:48Speaker 12: summer and winter. And nuclear clower plants they tend to
- 26:51Speaker 12: run at around ninety percent or more of its maximum output.
- 26:55Speaker 11: Across the ear so you know, at the same time wind.
- 27:00Speaker 12: Run roughly at a third of that capacity, and Staller
- 27:03Speaker 12: even less.
- 27:04Speaker 2: But then you get the government saying, yes, but nuclear
- 27:08Speaker 2: is the ch You know, it's too expensive, it's far
- 27:11Speaker 2: too expensive. It says, look what the CSIRO says, et cetera.
- 27:16Speaker 1: We can't go there.
- 27:17Speaker 2: It's ridiculous and we'll keep banning it even Do you
- 27:21Speaker 2: think that those arguments actually hold up well.
- 27:25Speaker 12: I think that in Australia there's three reasons that we
- 27:27Speaker 12: don't have nuclear at the moment.
- 27:29Speaker 11: One is obviously the band.
- 27:31Speaker 12: We are the only G twenty country that still has
- 27:35Speaker 12: a federal ban on building a civil nuclear.
- 27:38Speaker 11: Industry, and that has to go.
- 27:40Speaker 12: It has to be looked at it under today's circumstances.
- 27:44Speaker 12: I mean, things have changed enormously in terms of safety,
- 27:47Speaker 12: in terms of waste with your career, so we could
- 27:50Speaker 12: have a look at our federal ban and try to
- 27:53Speaker 12: you know, get rid of it, the sooner the better.
- 27:56Speaker 12: But also the second. The second thing is what you mentioned.
- 27:59Speaker 12: There's a cost reception in Australia that the government leans on,
- 28:03Speaker 12: which is the gen cost report you mentioned produced by
- 28:06Speaker 12: the CSIRO.
- 28:07Speaker 5: Row and it says that nuclear is far more expensive
- 28:10Speaker 5: than loose. But in actual effect that report deserves a
- 28:14Speaker 5: lot more scrutiny because their conclusion depends heavily on their assumptions,
- 28:19Speaker 5: and some of their assumptions were not really comparing nuclear properly,
- 28:24Speaker 5: I mean apples with apple, so it assumes, for example,
- 28:26Speaker 5: in that report the nuclear has a much shorter life,
- 28:29Speaker 5: and we know that reactors can last for sixty tow
- 28:33Speaker 5: eight years, if not more. It also didn't fully priced
- 28:36Speaker 5: storage back up transmission that the Nobles great needs, so
- 28:41Speaker 5: it's not really a report that is fair in their assumptions.
- 28:45Speaker 5: There should be another independent report and if we want
- 28:48Speaker 5: to look at the cost of nuclear properly and then firmly,
- 28:52Speaker 5: which I think is the hardest, is the politics in
- 28:55Speaker 5: Australia right because it has become a partisan football since the.
- 28:58Speaker 11: Last lection, not for before.
- 29:01Speaker 12: And what we need is more of a neutral position,
- 29:04Speaker 12: one of a bipartisan position on nuclear looking at it
- 29:09Speaker 12: pragmatically and on it's so.
- 29:10Speaker 11: Old in a little bit.
- 29:11Speaker 12: It really deserves to be looked at from a pragmatic
- 29:15Speaker 12: point of you're not a political point of it.
- 29:17Speaker 2: Yeah, well good luck with that, Christine Iman. You've been
- 29:20Speaker 2: in Australia long enough to see that that is a
- 29:23Speaker 2: very ask. In Australia, everything's political. Christina Telaca, thank you
- 29:28Speaker 2: so much for your time.
- 29:30Speaker 11: That's my pleasure.
- 29:31Speaker 4: Thank you.
- 29:32Speaker 3: A jim.
- 29:35Speaker 2: Dearie May can you believe this nonsense this country is
- 29:40Speaker 2: inflicting on ourselves.
- 29:42Speaker 1: I mean it's just crazy.
- 29:43Speaker 2: After the break, Jimmy and Caroline on the panel. An
- 29:51Speaker 2: update on the war bill Iran. We'll have more on
- 29:55Speaker 2: that with General Jack King tomorrow. This peace deal is
- 29:58Speaker 2: turning into the piece you have and it's actually war
- 30:01Speaker 2: Iran's hardline Islamic Revolutionary Guard Core. Yesterday I hit three
- 30:05Speaker 2: tankers in the straight up mus with missiles and drones
- 30:08Speaker 2: and ward ships to stay out.
- 30:10Speaker 13: This is live farming, This is life warning, this is
- 30:14Speaker 13: live warning. You're running danger. Sawfled your logging Dagier.
- 30:23Speaker 2: The US immediately banned around again from selling US oil
- 30:26Speaker 2: and launched a punishment attack this time, including not just
- 30:30Speaker 2: on strategic sits in southern around but also on small
- 30:34Speaker 2: vessels that Iran uses to attack shipping. Iran then claimed
- 30:38Speaker 2: to have attack eighty five sites in Cubait and Bahrain,
- 30:41Speaker 2: but there are no reports of major damage.
- 30:43Speaker 1: I mean, you've got to got to say it again.
- 30:47Speaker 2: Donald Trump ended the sport too soon in a panic,
- 30:50Speaker 2: and Iran now is just really stalling for time, guessing
- 30:52Speaker 2: the US isn't that serious. Join me at Gematon any
- 30:55Speaker 2: communists and communications consultant Karen the Russo, commentator and president
- 31:00Speaker 2: the rest a Strained Liberals, Gemma, what is the difference
- 31:02Speaker 2: between a Donald Trump war and a Donald Trump piece?
- 31:06Speaker 1: To me, it seems it's whatever he says it is.
- 31:10Speaker 14: Well, the interesting thing here, Andrew is I think the
- 31:12Speaker 14: insight is that perhaps Trump isn't the warmonger people like
- 31:15Speaker 14: to think he is. He's made a promise, obviously to
- 31:19Speaker 14: the American people when he was elected, no boots on
- 31:21Speaker 14: the ground, no forever wars. But he's also, i think
- 31:25Speaker 14: demonstrably somebody who values democracy and values the right of
- 31:31Speaker 14: people to have their freedom. I don't think anyone with
- 31:34Speaker 14: a brain trust the IIGC when they say look, we
- 31:37Speaker 14: really promise, were pinky swear that we're going to be
- 31:41Speaker 14: really good and we're just not going to enrich our uranium.
- 31:44Speaker 14: And you know, merrily on the while in the background
- 31:47Speaker 14: continuing with their vile, vile execution of women and minorities
- 31:52Speaker 14: and dissidents all the while.
- 31:54Speaker 15: You're quite right, Trump ended the war prematurely. It was
- 31:57Speaker 15: a mistake. They need to finish the job.
- 32:00Speaker 14: To everyone who thinks that I'm a warmonger, you volunteer
- 32:02Speaker 14: to go and live under that regime and then we'll
- 32:04Speaker 14: have a conversation.
- 32:05Speaker 15: I know the price of freedom.
- 32:07Speaker 14: I am very grateful I don't have to personally pay it,
- 32:10Speaker 14: and I have the utmost respect for our serving men
- 32:12Speaker 14: and women who decide that that price is worth paying.
- 32:17Speaker 2: Yes, I got to say that the Trump is making
- 32:19Speaker 2: a deal with the civilian government and the Speaker of
- 32:22Speaker 2: the Parliament, and the IGC is not making a deal
- 32:25Speaker 2: with them, and they're the ones who seem to be
- 32:26Speaker 2: put into carbos.
- 32:27Speaker 1: And all this.
- 32:28Speaker 2: But honestly, Caroline, this looks this looks only like a
- 32:33Speaker 2: piece because Donald Trump says it is. Because really to
- 32:36Speaker 2: most normal people that would look like war.
- 32:40Speaker 16: Well, and the thing is if you go back and
- 32:42Speaker 16: you look at the history of this area, you look
- 32:45Speaker 16: at the history of Iran and Persia over two thousand years,
- 32:47Speaker 16: nothing has ever been simple there. So I think anyone
- 32:51Speaker 16: would have been pretty naive to have thought you just
- 32:54Speaker 16: kind of trotted in title bow in this in five
- 32:56Speaker 16: minutes and walked on out, because two thousand years or
- 32:59Speaker 16: more of history tells you that it's not that simple.
- 33:03Speaker 15: But what I will say is that it is a little.
- 33:05Speaker 16: Bit unhelpful with all the back and frow, and I
- 33:08Speaker 16: suppose the performative side of all of this, because this
- 33:11Speaker 16: year is actually a very serious situation. But the problem
- 33:14Speaker 16: is is when you have all this talk, oh there's peace, no,
- 33:17Speaker 16: there's not. Yes, we're on, yes we're off, it ends
- 33:20Speaker 16: up becoming like Days of our Lives and you can
- 33:23Speaker 16: check in after forty three episodes and Stiff and I
- 33:26Speaker 16: is still.
- 33:26Speaker 15: Possessed by the devil.
- 33:27Speaker 2: Right.
- 33:28Speaker 16: And the problem is is that we should be paying
- 33:31Speaker 16: really close attention to this. No, but it's true we
- 33:34Speaker 16: should be paying really close attention. But because it flip
- 33:37Speaker 16: flops on the daily, you never actually know where it's at.
- 33:40Speaker 16: And I don't think it's probably you know, getting the
- 33:43Speaker 16: attention it actually should be getting simply because of that fact.
- 33:49Speaker 2: Yes, I think it's the problem is that both sides
- 33:51Speaker 2: are lying to their own people for political reasons or
- 33:55Speaker 2: strategic and so it's very hard to know what the
- 33:58Speaker 2: truth is. Anthony is he Jimmy returned to Australia for
- 34:02Speaker 2: his first press conference here today since the controversy about
- 34:06Speaker 2: his podcast interview where he said he'd like to apologizes again.
- 34:09Speaker 2: I think probably the last time I'm going to mention
- 34:11Speaker 2: this word shag kyl minogue. And when you know, he
- 34:16Speaker 2: also made sexist comments about Japan's prime minister and her melons.
- 34:21Speaker 1: Now, how about this, Jemma.
- 34:24Speaker 2: Not one journalist asked him one question about that, not
- 34:28Speaker 2: one real question about it, even about sexualizing the prime
- 34:32Speaker 2: minister of one of our most important allies. Does that
- 34:36Speaker 2: surprise you at all?
- 34:37Speaker 14: It disappoints me. I don't know what surprises me anymore.
- 34:41Speaker 15: Andrew.
- 34:41Speaker 14: I think I'm at that agent stage of life where
- 34:43Speaker 14: you've been around a little while and you see things
- 34:46Speaker 14: and think that shouldn't happen, and you don't see other
- 34:48Speaker 14: things and go why not? And I think that falls
- 34:50Speaker 14: into this category. I don't know why anyone didn't demand
- 34:54Speaker 14: that he front up, because that apology that he gave
- 34:58Speaker 14: via statement was not an apology in my view, it
- 35:01Speaker 14: read like an apology for getting caught. Look, I'm sorry
- 35:04Speaker 14: I got caught. It wasn't sorry for what I said,
- 35:07Speaker 14: sorry for the extremely sexist, demeaning, revolting, grubby, juvenile comments
- 35:13Speaker 14: that I said about women in general. It was just
- 35:17Speaker 14: a sorry, and everybody seems to have moved on. Well,
- 35:20Speaker 14: I just I think that it's hugely disappointed in appointing
- 35:27Speaker 14: that nobody felt the need to hold him responsible in person,
- 35:31Speaker 14: because it's all anyone in anyone about Andrew. It's all
- 35:35Speaker 14: anyone is talking about. They're talking about is this bloke
- 35:39Speaker 14: for real? If my child spoke like the whole thing
- 35:41Speaker 14: is crazy, it's not like, oh well it's it's not
- 35:45Speaker 14: like saying Italians Dinula Andrew, it's not a little thing.
- 35:50Speaker 15: It's not a little thing. Sometimes translation.
- 35:58Speaker 2: Inferno, Caroline, you but I know, absolutely, But Caroline, you
- 36:09Speaker 2: just know, I mean, I know we keep saying this
- 36:11Speaker 2: sort of stuff, But you know, if it was a
- 36:15Speaker 2: liberal who said such a thing, as a liberal who joked.
- 36:18Speaker 1: About the breasts of a femur, you know, that would
- 36:24Speaker 1: from beginning to end.
- 36:26Speaker 16: Oh yes, yes, we'd be talking about the Liberals problem
- 36:29Speaker 16: with women. No one has said Labour's problem with women
- 36:32Speaker 16: over the last week, which I find, you know.
- 36:34Speaker 15: Very in struggle. You have, yes, very few people have.
- 36:38Speaker 16: But what I will say, and I agree with absolutely
- 36:42Speaker 16: everything that Jemma has said, but I will say this,
- 36:45Speaker 16: I would like to think that this fureral over the
- 36:49Speaker 16: last week has, while very very serious, has allowed there
- 36:54Speaker 16: to be a distraction from Labour's performance on the economy.
- 36:58Speaker 16: So if and while I think that he absolutely should
- 37:03Speaker 16: be asked questions in person and all those sorts of things,
- 37:07Speaker 16: and we know he's got terrible judgment Andrew, I mean,
- 37:10Speaker 16: it's just plaining to see. But I really want the
- 37:15Speaker 16: conversation around the budget changes, that tax changes and what
- 37:19Speaker 16: have you to be back front and center, because simply
- 37:23Speaker 16: they are egregious and we are already seeing the adverse
- 37:27Speaker 16: effects of those and if we're going to put their
- 37:30Speaker 16: feet to the fire, I want it to be on
- 37:32Speaker 16: something substantive that affects the lives of everyday Australians. While
- 37:37Speaker 16: I think his behavior in relation to that podcast is reprehensible,
- 37:40Speaker 16: I wrote about it this week. But you know, I
- 37:43Speaker 16: want us to get back to the absolute nitty gritty
- 37:46Speaker 16: on the substance of their governance, because we know their
- 37:48Speaker 16: judgment is rubbish, because the governments, well that governance is
- 37:53Speaker 16: also rubbish, Andrew, which won't surprise you.
- 37:56Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm afraid that's I'm afraid that's the the
- 38:00Speaker 2: The Prime Minister today, General's defending the Welcome to Country
- 38:04Speaker 2: saying it was like welcoming someone to your home.
- 38:07Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. What do you think.
- 38:10Speaker 14: I see the analogy he's trying to draw, and I
- 38:13Speaker 14: think it's an expedient one. It's a convenient one for him.
- 38:16Speaker 14: I've said before, Andrew, I've been to events where a
- 38:20Speaker 14: welcome to country has been heartfelt, genuine and has united
- 38:25Speaker 14: the room. And I've been to welcomes to country where
- 38:29Speaker 14: it has been a long drawn out lecture, tinged with
- 38:34Speaker 14: all kinds of things that shouldn't be you know, it
- 38:37Speaker 14: shouldn't be said to fellow Australians. I think it's a
- 38:40Speaker 14: manner and a matter. But the government has an agenda here.
- 38:43Speaker 14: We know the Union movement is pushing for another round
- 38:46Speaker 14: it the Voice to Parliament referendum and by all means,
- 38:49Speaker 14: mister Albanezy, exercise some of that great judgment and take
- 38:52Speaker 14: that go for it made it will be a winner.
- 38:55Speaker 14: I don't think the welcome to country in and of
- 38:58Speaker 14: itself is the problem.
- 39:00Speaker 15: I think it's the ideology I do.
- 39:03Speaker 2: I do, no, no, oh, look look I totally agree
- 39:07Speaker 2: with you. That is one aspect of it. But I
- 39:10Speaker 2: have to say, Caroline, in the minute I've got left
- 39:14Speaker 2: to me, it's like, Australia's my home, and for somebody
- 39:17Speaker 2: to welcome to countries like having them sit in my
- 39:20Speaker 2: lounge room welcoming me to my own home.
- 39:22Speaker 1: I find that rather rude.
- 39:25Speaker 16: Well well I probably wouldn't necessarily quite put it exactly
- 39:29Speaker 16: like that, but I see it from the point if
- 39:31Speaker 16: someone's welcoming you to their home, if so fact it's
- 39:34Speaker 16: also not your home, I think it's Actually.
- 39:36Speaker 4: It's probably really quite that simple.
- 39:38Speaker 16: Like Jemma, I've seen some that have been done that
- 39:41Speaker 16: have been really lovely and heartfelt, and so I'm okay.
- 39:45Speaker 16: I mean, I'm not going to ever do one personally
- 39:47Speaker 16: an acknowledgement a country. That's fine, that's my business. Other
- 39:50Speaker 16: people can do whatever. But the other thing to be
- 39:53Speaker 16: and this has moved slightly. But the other thing that
- 39:55Speaker 16: I find very egregious about some of the motions that
- 39:59Speaker 16: are going to Labor National Conference is the change in
- 40:02Speaker 16: their position in relation to the recognition of Palestine and
- 40:06Speaker 16: removing the line about requiring the disarmament of Hamas. Now
- 40:10Speaker 16: that there is something we should absolutely be talking about,
- 40:14Speaker 16: because welcome to country. Yes, I take I see where
- 40:18Speaker 16: this is. But for me that's a little bit.
- 40:23Speaker 2: Well, that's one of the many issues of that statement.
- 40:27Speaker 2: Absolutely correct, gerental Neni Khara and the Russia, thank you
- 40:30Speaker 2: very much to you both. After the break, Prince Harry
- 40:33Speaker 2: humiliated and facing tens of millions of dollars of legal bills.
- 40:42Speaker 1: I mentioned Paul in Hanson earlier.
- 40:43Speaker 2: Well, she's in England at the moment, is going to
- 40:45Speaker 2: be giving a big talk to Conservative conference. She caught
- 40:47Speaker 2: up well with the formulator star Holly Valance, now big
- 40:52Speaker 2: conservative celebrity at Jeremy Clarkson's pub. I'm very jealous of that.
- 41:00Speaker 2: Now while she's over there, Paul Henson has been planning
- 41:03Speaker 2: to catch up with Nigel Farage, the leader of Britain's
- 41:07Speaker 2: anti immigration Reform Party, which is now why ahead in
- 41:11Speaker 2: the polls. But Forrage may now be a bit busy
- 41:15Speaker 2: after resigning from Parliament, but then saying immediately there's going
- 41:19Speaker 2: to stand in the electionist course for his own seat,
- 41:22Speaker 2: it's a bizarre call. It's done to dismiss a parliamentary
- 41:25Speaker 2: inquiry into his failure to declared donations by two rich
- 41:30Speaker 2: crypto investors, including a gift of nearly ten million dollars.
- 41:37Speaker 17: It's a chance to stick two fingers up to the
- 41:40Speaker 17: entire establishment. And I would say this to you, the
- 41:43Speaker 17: voters of Clacton, if I win, you win, because if
- 41:47Speaker 17: I lose, they win, and we will never with the
- 41:51Speaker 17: two old parties get my type of fundamental change that
- 41:54Speaker 17: we need to fix broken Britain.
- 41:59Speaker 2: Now, I'm not quite your for Aj is going to
- 42:00Speaker 2: gain from this stunt, because if he is re elected,
- 42:03Speaker 2: is expected that inquiry for a start won't go away
- 42:07Speaker 2: and could even order yet another by election in his
- 42:11Speaker 2: seat if they find it transgressed. And if he hoped
- 42:15Speaker 2: that well, getting re elected this time by voted the
- 42:17Speaker 2: people will really.
- 42:18Speaker 1: Stick it up to Westminster.
- 42:23Speaker 2: You know that that's the people's mandate, not the blobs mandate. Well,
- 42:27Speaker 2: there's a big problem because labor and the Conservatives sort
- 42:30Speaker 2: of snooking him a bit by saying they're actually not
- 42:33Speaker 2: going to run candidates against him, so his win is
- 42:36Speaker 2: going to seem quite empty.
- 42:38Speaker 18: Nigel Frage is having a hissy fit because the first
- 42:42Speaker 18: time he's actually having to deal with some real scrutiny.
- 42:45Speaker 18: What he needs to do is be honest about where
- 42:48Speaker 18: his fishy five million pounds came from. We will be
- 42:51Speaker 18: standing a candidate in the real by election, which will
- 42:53Speaker 18: follow the Standard's investigation. We're not standing a candidate in
- 42:57Speaker 18: the fake by election.
- 43:01Speaker 2: John me again from France, still on his holiday. Is
- 43:05Speaker 2: there a regular commentator and very devoted gifts of the
- 43:09Speaker 2: show for which we are grateful. GM News STA present
- 43:12Speaker 2: to Petrick Christie's I want to make sure Petrick that
- 43:15Speaker 2: you know is appreciated.
- 43:17Speaker 1: But anyway, what do you think Nigel's up to? Because
- 43:19Speaker 1: I can see how this is going to work for him.
- 43:22Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean, look, basically what's happened is that he
- 43:24Speaker 19: is being handed by the press over this. They've been
- 43:26Speaker 19: turning up at his daughter's home and say what you
- 43:28Speaker 19: like about Nigelie has never ever, ever brought his family
- 43:31Speaker 19: into politics, and that's really wound him.
- 43:34Speaker 4: Up that they've been doorstepping his daughter.
- 43:37Speaker 19: Every single media interview now is always around this five
- 43:39Speaker 19: million quid and nothing really has changed in that he's
- 43:42Speaker 19: given his answer about it, there is an inquiry into it,
- 43:45Speaker 19: and nothing has changed since then.
- 43:47Speaker 4: So he's getting very frustrated.
- 43:48Speaker 19: So I think what he thought he'd do is basically
- 43:50Speaker 19: make the point that other political parties don't like people
- 43:53Speaker 19: who earn money or have business acumen, which is why
- 43:55Speaker 19: we have a parliament full of overpro to school children.
- 43:58Speaker 4: I'm going to call a by election. Everyone that the
- 44:00Speaker 4: public doesn't care.
- 44:02Speaker 19: The public doesn't care about this five million But as
- 44:04Speaker 19: you've identified, it's kind of backfired because the only person
- 44:07Speaker 19: standing against him now is a man called Count Binface
- 44:11Speaker 19: who dresses up as a.
- 44:12Speaker 4: Trash bin and.
- 44:15Speaker 19: It's just it's just Barrage versus bin Face at the moment.
- 44:19Speaker 19: But you've mentioned that he's probably gonna win this dielection.
- 44:22Speaker 4: He should. He should win the by election obviously, even
- 44:24Speaker 4: if it is versus Binface.
- 44:25Speaker 19: However, there is a serious risk here, Andrew genuinely that
- 44:29Speaker 19: the man who is leading the party that is ahead
- 44:31Speaker 19: in the polls and is probably going to be the
- 44:33Speaker 19: next prime minister loses to a bloke dressed as a
- 44:35Speaker 19: dust bin and he's out of the running. And there
- 44:38Speaker 19: is precedent for this in Britain. There is president for
- 44:41Speaker 19: three consecutive mayoral elections in a place called Hartlepool, a
- 44:45Speaker 19: bloke who was a football mascot dressed as a monkey
- 44:50Speaker 19: called hangus the monkey one.
- 44:52Speaker 4: He did the hand trick.
- 44:53Speaker 19: He won't, he terms so seriously, this is this is ludicrous,
- 44:58Speaker 19: Nagel Farranch. I hope he does, but he might lose
- 45:00Speaker 19: to a blow dressed as a bin, and it's and
- 45:03Speaker 19: it's all ridiculous.
- 45:07Speaker 2: Yes, well, and there'll be many people I think maybe
- 45:10Speaker 2: attempted to vote to get exactly that kind of very
- 45:14Speaker 2: typical British kind of reaction. Marth and Goon show the
- 45:18Speaker 2: whole catastrophe these donations, though, I mean, it's not so
- 45:23Speaker 2: much that he you know, people are resentful that he
- 45:26Speaker 2: got rich when he wasn't in politics. It's more the
- 45:30Speaker 2: issue is that he didn't declare it. Right, How serious
- 45:34Speaker 2: are these donations that he supposedly didn't declar So he.
- 45:39Speaker 19: Says he wasn't politically active at the time. Now, there's
- 45:41Speaker 19: always a very fine line with that with Nigel Franch.
- 45:44Speaker 19: You know, Nigel Franch, as long as there's breath in
- 45:45Speaker 19: his body, I suppose is a political figure. However, he
- 45:48Speaker 19: was not standing for mainstream politics. He was doing things
- 45:51Speaker 19: like presenting a show on gb News. He was a
- 45:52Speaker 19: social media influencer. He was on shows like I'm a Celebrity,
- 45:55Speaker 19: Get Me out of Here. That was his kind of life, right,
- 45:58Speaker 19: So he says that there was a clear distinction between
- 46:00Speaker 19: his public and his political life. And this donation of
- 46:04Speaker 19: five million British pounds came then, and it was to
- 46:06Speaker 19: spend on his security. And he's revealed a series of
- 46:09Speaker 19: very high profile and very serious threats to his life
- 46:12Speaker 19: and he's going to need security for the rest of
- 46:14Speaker 19: his life. What people who are criticizing him for over
- 46:17Speaker 19: this have not yet been able to do is they've
- 46:19Speaker 19: not been able to provide a smoking gun in terms
- 46:21Speaker 19: of what did Nigel do for the money other than
- 46:25Speaker 19: spend it on security. Yeah, yeah, particular policy that is,
- 46:29Speaker 19: they've not found that yet. And for a lot of people,
- 46:32Speaker 19: look you and I included, don't get me wrong, five
- 46:34Speaker 19: million quid is a lot of money.
- 46:35Speaker 4: But Nagel Frad is a very unique.
- 46:37Speaker 19: Kind of guy right, and and he's made a lot
- 46:39Speaker 19: of friends along the way, and there are a lot
- 46:40Speaker 19: of people with a lot of money out there who
- 46:43Speaker 19: do like him and are willing to help support him
- 46:45Speaker 19: in his personal life.
- 46:47Speaker 4: So that's where he's at.
- 46:51Speaker 2: Charity's fine subscribed to mine if they were out there. Meanwhile,
- 46:55Speaker 2: Prince Harry is becking into Britain, but again without Megan Marckle,
- 47:00Speaker 2: his wife.
- 47:00Speaker 1: But it's been a very unhappy return, Pa Tricky.
- 47:03Speaker 2: He came back to learn that he and six other celebrities,
- 47:06Speaker 2: including Elton John, have lost the case against The Daily Mail,
- 47:09Speaker 2: which they claimed was a wicked newspaper that he used
- 47:12Speaker 2: the legal means to report on them. Harry is blasted
- 47:16Speaker 2: the judge, saying it's a complete and obvious whitewash, but
- 47:18Speaker 2: sadly not altogether unexpected. However, the lengths to which the
- 47:22Speaker 2: court has gone to exonerate the Mail is as shocking
- 47:26Speaker 2: as it is totally unwarranted. Bit dodgy, a royal attacking
- 47:29Speaker 2: a judge that had got to say was it a whitewash?
- 47:32Speaker 2: Or did Harry make claims against journals he just couldn't
- 47:34Speaker 2: back up.
- 47:36Speaker 19: Look spanking for Prince Harry and that's not one of
- 47:38Speaker 19: the Daily Mail headlines that he was complaining about. Okay,
- 47:41Speaker 19: the judge dismissed ninety seven claims that Harry made. It's
- 47:44Speaker 19: a four hundred page court document which you won't be
- 47:46Speaker 19: able to read because it's not written in crayon.
- 47:49Speaker 4: It's not a whitewash at all. He just was not
- 47:51Speaker 4: able to prove anything.
- 47:53Speaker 19: And Paul Daker, who was in charge of the Mail
- 47:55Speaker 19: at the time, has provided the quote of the day
- 47:57Speaker 19: Harry was taking the biscuit that isn't a laundry in
- 48:00Speaker 19: the cosmos big enough to dry the dirty linen. He's
- 48:04Speaker 19: aired about his own family and on that. By the way,
- 48:07Speaker 19: he's in London at the moment, and the rumor is
- 48:10Speaker 19: that Megan Markle isn't with him because the Royals wanted
- 48:13Speaker 19: her to sign an NDA that nothing of their meeting
- 48:16Speaker 19: would be leaked and she refused to sign it as humor.
- 48:19Speaker 19: But that indicates, if true, the kind of people they are.
- 48:22Speaker 19: It could cost Harry and the other claimants here around
- 48:25Speaker 19: fifty million pounds and I hope he has.
- 48:28Speaker 4: Whoa whoa he had to pay up.
- 48:31Speaker 1: Oh, that is gonna hurt. Well, he tried and he
- 48:37Speaker 1: threw the icy loss.
- 48:38Speaker 2: You pay, you pay, but Patrick Christie's thank you so
- 48:41Speaker 2: much for your time. Up next this Sherry hosted by
- 48:45Speaker 2: the excellent James McPherson.
- 48:47Speaker 1: Couldn't that