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Brian chats with Aviation Expert Jay Ratliff 4/9/2026 · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: A thirty one on a Thursday Friday. You've call it
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  Speaker 1: what you will always this time a week, it's a
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  Speaker 1: great time, except for next week when you're not going
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  Speaker 1: to be around. Welcome back, I Heeart Media Aviation nextpert
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  Speaker 1: Jay Ratliff, I thoroughly enjoy you coming on the program,
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  Speaker 1: my friend.
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  Speaker 2: Pleasant good morning, and obviously my prayers today and yesterday
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  Speaker 2: with Joe's family with a passing his father. You and
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  Speaker 2: I have had to travel that road and it's it's
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  Speaker 2: it's it's.
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  Speaker 1: It's rough, it is, but you know what, your prayers
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  Speaker 1: and the prayers of the listeners and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: messages to Joe and his family I know does take
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  Speaker 1: some of the sting off, and it's a wonderful thing
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  Speaker 1: to know that people really do care about you in
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  Speaker 1: these times of need. So yes, my listening audience joined
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  Speaker 1: with Jay and myself and everyone else wishing at all
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  Speaker 1: the best and thoughts and prayers for Joe Strecker after
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  Speaker 1: his loss yesterday, and we talked about energy policy. I
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  Speaker 1: know it's it's sort of not really necessarily on your list,
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  Speaker 1: but I would this amazing Reality Delta alone. They say
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  Speaker 1: they paid it and just to average is two dollars
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  Speaker 1: and sixty two cents per gallon in March for that quarter.
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  Speaker 1: But the second quarter they expect an all in fuel
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  Speaker 1: price of four dollars and thirty gallons, which translates to
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  Speaker 1: an increase for one company a loan more than two
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  Speaker 1: billion dollars. That's a big change right there.
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  Speaker 2: Chain And then there's the PS on the ps that
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  Speaker 2: from their earnings that they announced this week that the
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  Speaker 2: reduced profit if you will, four hundred and twenty three million.
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  Speaker 2: But they don't expect that big a hit on their
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  Speaker 2: future guidance for the following quarters. And that's what's really
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  Speaker 2: going to be significant here is if they can obsfort
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  Speaker 2: some of that and see the demand increase enough where
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  Speaker 2: they're not really going to be, you know, forcing themselves
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  Speaker 2: to say, hey, we're going to adjust down our future numbers.
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  Speaker 2: They say, we're confident with them right now. Now. Dells
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  Speaker 2: has got a little bit of a plus because they
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  Speaker 2: get about a three hundred million dollar break because they
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  Speaker 2: own a fuel refinery.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's right.
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  Speaker 2: I bought that a number of years ago as a
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  Speaker 2: way to kind of well, one it saved to town,
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  Speaker 2: and two it gave them an inflow of some aviation
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  Speaker 2: related product. But the whole idea is that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's a lot of money when you're talking about fuel.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, keep in mind in the big picture,
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  Speaker 2: when we look at Delta last year, I think in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, they generated something like eight point two
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  Speaker 2: billion dollars, not from transporting passengers, but off of the
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  Speaker 2: loyalty program they have with credit cards, so they make
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  Speaker 2: a ton of money in other ways. But yeah, obviously
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  Speaker 2: fuel is a big, big thing, and it used to
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  Speaker 2: be a number of years ago. Airlines would hedge by
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  Speaker 2: hedge contracts where they would lock in the price of
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  Speaker 2: fuel for x amount of months at a time, and
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  Speaker 2: that way, if the fuel prices went up, airlines benefited.
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  Speaker 2: If the fuel prices dropped, they're paying that even a bit.
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  Speaker 2: It was the person selling the fuel that got the uh,
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  Speaker 2: the kind of the extra cash. Well, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: airlines had hedge contracts rolling into the pandemic when fuel
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  Speaker 2: limited through the floor, and a lot of airlines lost
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  Speaker 2: a ton of money coming out of that, and many
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  Speaker 2: of the airlines and our days of hedging or locking
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  Speaker 2: in future fuel contracts are over.
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  Speaker 1: I understand that, and real quick briefly One of the
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  Speaker 1: final topics you had on the list was at airlines
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  Speaker 1: are adjusting their schedules because of the rising fuel costs.
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  Speaker 1: How does that translate into how does the adjustment translate
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  Speaker 1: to help the airlines?
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  Speaker 2: A lot of smaller cities that have lessly minimal demand.
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  Speaker 2: The yield or profit for passions some of these airlines
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  Speaker 2: are getting was minimal when fuel was where it needed
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  Speaker 2: to be. But now that fuel is at a price,
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  Speaker 2: we're seeing some of these airlines say, look, instead of
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  Speaker 2: us flying four times a day to this city, we're
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  Speaker 2: only going to fly twice. I see, because we're not
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  Speaker 2: filling up the airplanes that we have and it's just
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  Speaker 2: too expensive to run. So as long as we've got
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  Speaker 2: this current operating environment, we're going to trend back our schedule.
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  Speaker 2: And we've seen almost every airline do this to one
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  Speaker 2: extent or another, and it's impacting the smaller cities that
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  Speaker 2: have less demand than it is some of the others.
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  Speaker 2: And you hate to see that because you don't want
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  Speaker 2: any city in this country to be underserved from commercial aviation.
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  Speaker 2: But when it comes to fuel and what it's costing airlines,
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  Speaker 2: in fact, some of these airlines are going back to
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  Speaker 2: propeller airplanes, because yeah, the turboprops are more fuel efficient
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  Speaker 2: than the jet engines. Now. Of course, calm Air when
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  Speaker 2: they did what they did, bring in the Bob Bardier
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  Speaker 2: jets to life with the fifty seat regional jets, that's
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  Speaker 2: all anybody ever wanted to fly. Don't put me on
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  Speaker 2: the propeller plane, put me on this nice corporate jet
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  Speaker 2: looking type of thing. But you know, the propellers were
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  Speaker 2: always more fuel efficient. And now airlines are saying, look,
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  Speaker 2: we really don't care about public perception. We've got some
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  Speaker 2: of these regional jets that are propeller that we can
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  Speaker 2: make more money on than we can the jets sure
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  Speaker 2: of comparable size. So yeah, we're seeing some airlines that
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  Speaker 2: have those in their fleet to kind of be using
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  Speaker 2: them more than they have in the past.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever been in the cockpit before a fortify
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  Speaker 1: kercit talks to days. Of course, today Rodliff has he's
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  Speaker 1: our aviation expert. He's a pilot, he's been in the
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  Speaker 1: aviation business for f and he joins us every Thursday
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  Speaker 1: for a few segments, which I appreciate his willingness to
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  Speaker 1: do so. Pivoting over a bad place to have a
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  Speaker 1: baby on board an airplane.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Caribbean Airlines flight Jamaica to New York's JFK Airport
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  Speaker 2: on final approach. When a woman goes into labor, they
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  Speaker 2: have medical personnel on board the plane that can assist
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  Speaker 2: of the flight attendant, and the crew notified the tower
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  Speaker 2: that they had the medical situation. They did not declare
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  Speaker 2: an emergency, but the air traffic control obviously moved everybody
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  Speaker 2: out of the way so they could land. The baby
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  Speaker 2: was actually born before the I think as the flight
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  Speaker 2: was landing or just before, and air traffic control obviously
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  Speaker 2: checking when the plane was on the ground how is
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  Speaker 2: the mom and baby, and they said both are fine.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have medical teams standing by. And the air traffic
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  Speaker 2: controllers were on dimensions that hey, if they're looking for
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  Speaker 2: a name, we.
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  Speaker 1: Lose, we live. We lost him. At a forty six
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  Speaker 1: to fifty five kcity talk station had a little technical
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  Speaker 1: glitch there, we lost. Jay Ratliffe, I Heart Media Aviation eRx,
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  Speaker 1: what you were racking up the story about the baby
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  Speaker 1: being born on the plane. Two quick questions from our listeners.
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  Speaker 1: Jay went off that topic and moved to another one. First,
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  Speaker 1: what was the baby name suggestion, and number two is
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  Speaker 1: the baby a citizen of the United States.
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  Speaker 2: The latter question is still in question, and yeah, that's
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  Speaker 2: still up in the air because they were trying to
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  Speaker 2: determine where the baby was born. The name has yet
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  Speaker 2: to be assigned, but air traffic controllers one of the
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  Speaker 2: baby called Kennedy because they were para pairing to fly
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  Speaker 2: into JFK. We've only had about seventy seventy five instances
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  Speaker 2: in the last one hundred years where we've had a
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  Speaker 2: berth on a plane, and typically that's because a doctors
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  Speaker 2: are very reluctant to allow women in the later stages
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  Speaker 2: of pregnancy to fly.
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  Speaker 1: To ask you that I thought that was sort of
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  Speaker 1: standard knowledge. You don't fly when you're oh it is,
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  Speaker 1: he's like eight plus months pregnant.
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  Speaker 2: Because if you do, the change in air pressure many
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  Speaker 2: times can't trigger a premature labor causing a problem. And
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  Speaker 2: there have been times when I've been at the gate
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  Speaker 2: and if we have somebody that's in the advanced stages
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  Speaker 2: of pregnancy, we have to tell them that we don't
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  Speaker 2: advise them flying, and many times have to ask them
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  Speaker 2: not to. Now, obviously, if it's an emergency situation things
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  Speaker 2: of this nature. You've got to make a gut call
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  Speaker 2: at the time, but you're worried about the safety of
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  Speaker 2: mom and the baby because if there are any complications
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  Speaker 2: at thirty five thousand feet, obviously, the medical response on
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  Speaker 2: an aircraft is limited, to say the least, and it's
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  Speaker 2: going to take twenty minutes to get that plane on
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  Speaker 2: the ground just to get them in the hands of
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  Speaker 2: medical personnel. So you're always careful about stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: You want to err on the side of caution, But
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  Speaker 2: in this case, mom and baby are fine and.
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  Speaker 1: Not exactly a sterile environment. Anyway, Southwest Airline's facing a
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  Speaker 1: three hundred and four thousand dollars fine. How do they
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  Speaker 1: get fined for that?
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  Speaker 2: Jay, Yeah, well that's the proposed fine. The FAA has
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  Speaker 2: a policy in place when you have employees that have
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  Speaker 2: a positive drug or alcohol test that there's a certain
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  Speaker 2: protocol you have to go through, and that is tests
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  Speaker 2: after that point in time that are scheduled days, weeks, months,
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  Speaker 2: it's not a regular schedule, and it comes out the
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  Speaker 2: Southwest Airlines on about twelve employees did not have those
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  Speaker 2: follow up tests as they should. Apparently this was a
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  Speaker 2: mix of employees from pilots, flight at tenants, mechanics, all
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  Speaker 2: kinds of different people, and the FAA saying, look, you
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  Speaker 2: needed to do this, you did not. They're proposing a
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  Speaker 2: fine of three hundred thousand. I keep saying proposing, because
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  Speaker 2: typically what happens, these fines the FAA comes forward with
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  Speaker 2: are negotiated down if the airline promises never to do
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  Speaker 2: it again, which drives me out of my mind. But
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  Speaker 2: we also have American Airlines yesterday that was announced they're
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  Speaker 2: facing a similar fine for two hundred and fifty thousand,
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  Speaker 2: I think, for the exact same violation. So I think
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  Speaker 2: that the FAA is trying to send a message here
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  Speaker 2: to airlines saying, look, you know what the protocol is
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  Speaker 2: when these types of situations take place, we expect you
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  Speaker 2: to follow it. And even though these fines would be
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  Speaker 2: minimal compared to what these airlines can afford, and they're
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  Speaker 2: going to be negotiated down, at least, they're trying to
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  Speaker 2: send a message and hopefully that message will be received
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  Speaker 2: loud and clear.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, this doesn't shock me. Everybody gets frustrated
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  Speaker 1: about literally anything these days, but when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: checking bags more and more people are getting a little
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  Speaker 1: angry about that. Jay.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Southwest is kind of leading the pack here,
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  Speaker 2: but other airlines are guilty of it. Two thirds of
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  Speaker 2: the way through the boarding process, the gate agent says, okay,
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  Speaker 2: over red bins are filled. We've got to check all
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  Speaker 2: the carry on bags. They're large at this point in time,
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  Speaker 2: that won't fit underneath the seat in front of you. Well,
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  Speaker 2: people don't want to give up their carry on bag
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  Speaker 2: because then they got to wait for you know, baggers
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  Speaker 2: claim on the other end, but they obviously oblige give
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  Speaker 2: up their bag, get on the plane, and then they
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  Speaker 2: find a third of the overhead storage compartments are empty.
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  Speaker 2: Airlines are doing it to try to speed the boarding
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  Speaker 2: process so they can dispatch the flight on time. And
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  Speaker 2: we're seeing a lot of passengers not only from Southwest,
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  Speaker 2: but other airlines are getting on there, and they are
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  Speaker 2: at the latter people to board and finding plenty of
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  Speaker 2: overhead storage face and they're thinking, why did you take
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  Speaker 2: your bag from me? Why am I being forced to
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  Speaker 2: waiting out baggage claim when I got all these places
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  Speaker 2: I could have put my bag. So they estimate it.
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  Speaker 2: It's based on a computer algorithm that they have built
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  Speaker 2: in that tells them at what point in time the
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  Speaker 2: bins are probably full, and that's when those announcements are
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  Speaker 2: being made at the gate. So you kind of hope
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  Speaker 2: you're one of the early ones to board so that
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  Speaker 2: you can get past that and avoid that frustration, especially
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  Speaker 2: if you've got limited time you're there and back in
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  Speaker 2: the day and you don't want to eat up twenty
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  Speaker 2: thirty forty fifty minutes waiting on your bags to you know,
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  Speaker 2: come through the baggage claim area. Yeah, I can definitely
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  Speaker 2: see why passengers are frustrated. I got an email today
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  Speaker 2: from a pot pilot from Southwest and he said, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a big time frustration for their customers
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  Speaker 2: and hopefully something can change on us soon.
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  Speaker 1: Has there ever been any suggestion or any trial of
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  Speaker 1: having assigned to a seat overhead storage like this segment
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  Speaker 1: is for seed to you know, to a or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: so you don't have the fights over it. Everybody gets
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  Speaker 1: allocated one space and if it's there, it's there. If
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  Speaker 1: you don't want to use it, maybe you can give
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  Speaker 1: it to somebody, but it's your space and no one
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  Speaker 1: else can take it from you.
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  Speaker 2: There have been. The question is who's going to police that.
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  Speaker 2: Some airlines have gone to putting stickers in the overhead
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  Speaker 2: storage been saying this is reserved for passengers seated here.
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  Speaker 2: Really the only place that's policed is first class because
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  Speaker 2: the flight attendant has maybe five or six rows at
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  Speaker 2: most to manage keep an eye on, and they're always
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  Speaker 2: very aware of those premium passengers. If somebody coach walks
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  Speaker 2: by and throws your bag in a first class storage
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  Speaker 2: compartment and keeps walking back to coach, most of the
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  Speaker 2: time that's caught. If not, somebody in first class tends
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  Speaker 2: to point it out because you don't want to be
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  Speaker 2: boarding last and Sharon, I've done this many times and
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  Speaker 2: you get up to first class and all the bins
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  Speaker 2: are filled and there's no place to put your bag.
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  Speaker 2: Very frustrating, but really that's the only place that they
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  Speaker 2: can can police that because you've just got too many
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  Speaker 2: rows and too few flight attendants to really make sure
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  Speaker 2: people oblige with that. The other if they could do that,
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  Speaker 2: brind they would find a way to charge this extra
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  Speaker 2: for the storage in the overde storage department. In other words,
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  Speaker 2: the bag you take with you carry on if it
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  Speaker 2: fits underneath the seat, it is free. But if you
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  Speaker 2: need some of the premium space above our seats, that's
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  Speaker 2: what they would call it. Then it's you know, an
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  Speaker 2: extra five or ten, fifteen bucks whatever it happen to be.
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  Speaker 2: If there's a way they could figure that, brother, they
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  Speaker 2: would be doing that in a heartbeat.
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  Speaker 1: Well, what they need is, you know one of those dollars,
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  Speaker 1: you know when you feed dollars in a Kroger to
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  Speaker 1: pay for your groceries. So to unlock the overhead storage space,
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  Speaker 1: you got to feed it like quarters to get into
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  Speaker 1: the old school of a bathroom.
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  Speaker 2: How that would slow up the boarding process.
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  Speaker 1: That would go over like a lead.
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  Speaker 2: Believe anybody got a quarner, Yeah, it would be. It
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  Speaker 2: would be a nightmare, all right. So you know, right
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Air, I will say the European discount carrier did
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  Speaker 2: have pay toilet for a while.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my word, okay, uh, you have to pay me
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  Speaker 1: to go into one of those absent emergency anyway, probably.
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  Speaker 2: Had a they prayed afit or a sailing drinks too.
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  Speaker 1: True, flight delayed over bees when it comes to airplanes
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  Speaker 1: versus bees, I guess bees win.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Charlotte, they were airplane was on the ramp preparing
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  Speaker 2: to depart. They looked out the left engine on the
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  Speaker 2: on the poor side of the aircraft covered in bees.
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  Speaker 2: So they didn't want to fire up the engine because
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  Speaker 2: you don't want a FOURIGN debris of any kind sucked
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  Speaker 2: into the engine. So they called a bee keeper that
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  Speaker 2: came out with the assistance of a few very brave
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  Speaker 2: souls on the ramp and they collected the bees, put
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  Speaker 2: them in a in a box and took them away
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  Speaker 2: before they would dispatch the aircraft. The If you don't
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  Speaker 2: like bees, don't look at the picture. But fortunately they
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  Speaker 2: were outside the airplane, not inside, which is delayed flights.
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  Speaker 2: So we've had them on the inside the airplane. But
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  Speaker 2: people are freaking out seeing it. And but you know
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  Speaker 2: it is about an hour delay before they were able
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  Speaker 2: to clean up the mess and get under a But yes,
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  Speaker 2: a B delay, don't I don't know what the code
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  Speaker 2: on that would be in our computers to put a
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  Speaker 2: B delay up fall into other.
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  Speaker 1: Well, as they upgrade the computer system, maybe they'll include
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  Speaker 1: the code for that one. As we always end Jay
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  Speaker 1: Ratliffe as it's a nice day to day here, But
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  Speaker 1: how about out there in terms of travel, nationally.
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  Speaker 2: For the most part, it is going to be a
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  Speaker 2: beautiful day to fly Chicago Detroit could see delays. I
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  Speaker 2: really think those are going to be minimal, thirty minutes
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  Speaker 2: or less. We've got some bad weather coming this weekend
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  Speaker 2: that's going to kind of spoil the party. But don't
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  Speaker 2: worry about that. If you're flying today, gold Star, you
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  Speaker 2: picked a good data fly.
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  Speaker 1: I heart Mediabas. Next for Jay Raleif appreciate you coming
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  Speaker 1: on the show every week at this time and enjoy
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  Speaker 1: our conversations. I'll look forward to a week obviously next
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  Speaker 1: week you're not around, correct, No.
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  Speaker 2: I'm taking my bride on vacation. She wants to, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, walk thirty some thousand steps a day at Disney,
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  Speaker 2: So who am I to say no?
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  Speaker 1: Right not to her? Yeah, you're out of herrelevant buddy.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever she wants, happy wife, happy as.
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  Speaker 2: You said, I did out kick my coverage. Whatever she
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  Speaker 2: wants she's gonna get.
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  Speaker 1: That's the lea you stay happily, Mary, Jay Radley, thank
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  Speaker 1: you man. Enjoy your time there. We'll talk in two weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Safe travels, brother. If you didn't get a chance to listen.
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  Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson on earlier in the program You get
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  Speaker 1: that podcast fifty five KRC dot com. Bring him account
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  Speaker 1: Hudson Institute. We had him for well four segments, I
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  Speaker 1: think yeah, four. He carried over into the eight o'clock
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  Speaker 1: hour Energy Policy. Great conversation with Brigham as always, and
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  Speaker 1: of course my conversation here with Jay Ratliffe. Fifty five
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  Speaker 1: careseea dot com for that Tech Friday with Dave hat
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  Speaker 1: Ter tomorrow. It's all I know about considering we are
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  Speaker 1: more than the loss of Joe Strecker's father who passed yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: and I presume he will not be in tomorrow either.
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  Speaker 1: And with that, I want to thank Danny Gleeson for
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  Speaker 1: covering for Joe Strecker. I know it was short noticed, Danny,
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  Speaker 1: but you always do a great job when you're in
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  Speaker 1: the booth. Folks, have a great day. Fifty five careseea
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  Speaker 1: and don't go away because Lundbeck is coming up.