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Jeff Legwold joins Kreckman and Lindahl 8-10-26 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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Speaker 1: Training camp cover John Altitude Sports Radio ninety two five
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Speaker 1: Medical doctor and attorney Ramoslaw dot com. Jeff Legwald of
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Speaker 1: ESPN covering practice today. Uh, Jeff, some interesting revelations from
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Speaker 1: practice today. But more than anything, the soft tissue injuries
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Speaker 1: continue to not just be a story, but maybe the
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Speaker 1: story of this training camp.
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Speaker 2: JK. Dobbins, Uh leaving the field today.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 1: What is Sean Payton and what are the Broncos trying
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Speaker 1: to do to uh stem this soft tissue injury tide?
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, uh, in some ways, you know, maybe
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Speaker 3: they tempted the universe. Uh, and at all after the
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Speaker 3: last two years, they Sean especially has been very vocal
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Speaker 3: about you know, how they he know, you know, and
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Speaker 3: you you would expect a guy to stick up for
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Speaker 3: his staff, certainly, but they He's spent very vocal the
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Speaker 3: last couple of years that they he thought that you know,
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Speaker 3: they had found a nice rhythm and a calendar and
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Speaker 3: a schedule of doing things that enabled them to avoid
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Speaker 3: a lot of injuries that other people had. And uh,
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Speaker 3: you know, this year a little bit feels like the
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Speaker 3: pendulum has swung back certainly. You know, they've had including
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Speaker 3: players they've already released. You know, they've had five or
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Speaker 3: six already, including you know, Jalen Wattle, Marvin Mims, and
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Speaker 3: now today JK. Dobbins, uh with what he characterized is
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Speaker 3: handstring growing and other strains. So, h you know, today
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Speaker 3: he added a little more of a formal cool down
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Speaker 3: work at the end of practice. And it was one
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Speaker 3: of the longest practices of training camp today, so you
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Speaker 3: had that as well. But he said they're going to
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Speaker 3: keep this cool down you know, and in effect, you know,
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Speaker 3: for certainly while they're doing this part of training camp.
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Speaker 3: And I think he you know, he also he studied
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Speaker 3: kind of what are is there a common theme to
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Speaker 3: the time of practice, what what kind of practice period
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Speaker 3: are they in right before these injuries are happening, So
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Speaker 3: they are looking at it all and I you know,
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Speaker 3: he gets frustrated when these kinds of things sort of
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Speaker 3: you know, not the train off the tracks a little
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Speaker 3: bit so, but today overall had the feel of Okay,
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Speaker 3: the principle was gone for a couple of days, well,
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Speaker 3: today's back, and you know, it was a very long practice.
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Speaker 3: They had moments in practice where they were really working
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Speaker 3: through some of the you know, commentary with the players
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Speaker 3: and coaches and all of it. You could tell he
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Speaker 3: was very active today and that I think he wanted
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Speaker 3: to reassure everyone that he is indeed back on the
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Speaker 3: practice field.
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Speaker 1: Yes, he certainly reasserted himself, I would say, out there today.
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Speaker 1: And then he also did talk about the plan for
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Speaker 1: Friday night in the preseason game, and Leggy, even with
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Speaker 1: this spate of injuries that they're dealing with, he wants
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Speaker 1: his guys out there and if you're a starter and
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Speaker 1: you're healthy, you will probably get at least a few
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Speaker 1: snaps on Friday Night.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've expected that all along. Nate. That's his nature,
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Speaker 3: It's in his DNA, how he was raised. As a coach,
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Speaker 3: he firmly believes if you're gonna play football in the
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Speaker 3: regular season, you at least have to play a little bit,
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Speaker 3: you know, if you're a starter in the preseason. Now,
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Speaker 3: he's not endorsing guys, you know, playing whole games or
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Speaker 3: even whole halves, but if you're a starter on the Broncos,
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Speaker 3: he is not gonna let you believe that you are
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Speaker 3: going to get baseball caps and T shirts for preseason games,
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Speaker 3: you are you're gonna play some snaps, and even in
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Speaker 3: the third preseason game, if you're a veteran player, a starter,
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Speaker 3: and you don't play in the game, you are still
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Speaker 3: gonna put all your gear on and warm up like
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Speaker 3: you're gonna play, and then maybe at halftime you get
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Speaker 3: to take the shoulder pads off and and enjoy the
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Speaker 3: rest of the game even though you didn't play at all.
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Speaker 4: How do you think this preseason is gonna look play
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Speaker 4: calling wise, Jeff?
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Speaker 2: Are they gonna let him?
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Speaker 4: Are they gonna let you know, Davis web experiment a
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Speaker 4: little bit? I mean, I know what you want to
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Speaker 4: keep it vanilla. You don't want to put too much
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Speaker 4: on tape for the first game of the season and
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Speaker 4: all that stuff, because you want to have that element surprise.
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Speaker 4: But how much do you think they let him kind
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Speaker 4: of mess around with this? Please preseason play calling? Will
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Speaker 4: it be much at all? Or will it be like
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Speaker 4: years past?
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Speaker 3: And I think the guardrails will be off it just
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Speaker 3: simply because again this is a Sean Payton thing and
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Speaker 3: actually a George Peyton thing too. They want to make
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Speaker 3: evaluate decisions, so Sewan has talked in the past. I
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Speaker 3: think even today he talked about it a little bit.
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Speaker 3: Is you don't want to stray from the things the
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Speaker 3: players can handle, because especially the young guys, because they
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Speaker 3: want a real evaluation on them as players. So give
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Speaker 3: them things they're comfortable with so you can see them
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Speaker 3: at their best and then you make a decision about
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Speaker 3: practice squad, roster whatever. So I think the evaluation component
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Speaker 3: will keep things, you know, simple and regular because they
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Speaker 3: want to see the young guys, especially especially this year.
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Speaker 3: I mean, they don't have a lot of roster spots
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Speaker 3: to squeeze in the young prospects you know, all over
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Speaker 3: the place, so their practice squad, those are going to
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Speaker 3: be really important decisions and they don't want to goof
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Speaker 3: those up. So I think to your question, I think
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Speaker 3: it will. It won't be like simple and regular because
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Speaker 3: they don't think Davis web is ready for that, or
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Speaker 3: you know, don't want to let him stretch his legs
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Speaker 3: a little bit. It's more that when they get in
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Speaker 3: the back end of the second quarter and into the
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Speaker 3: third and fourth quarters of the preseason games, they want
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Speaker 3: a real look at those players, so they're going to
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Speaker 3: give them the you know, the parts of the play
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Speaker 3: sheets on both sides of the ball that they're most
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Speaker 3: comfortable with.
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Speaker 1: And it sounds like Davis Webb is going to be
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Speaker 1: trying to get everybody comfortable from the sidelines. That whatever
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Speaker 1: question there was, leg he had always made most sense
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Speaker 1: that Davis Webb would be on the sidelines. But it
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Speaker 1: sounds like he wants it. John Payton wants it, Bo
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Speaker 1: Nicks wants it. That's going to be the plan.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I you know, usually an ex player wants
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Speaker 3: to be on the sideline who becomes a coordinator on
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Speaker 3: either side of the ball. You know, it was funny.
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Speaker 3: Mis Fangio is one of the few really veteran coaches
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Speaker 3: I've heard say out loud he prefers up in the box,
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Speaker 3: you know, because of the view and the perspective you
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Speaker 3: can get from up there, even though they don't think
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Speaker 3: it works for us, but they like the perspective from
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Speaker 3: the box sometimes. But Vic's really the only guy publicly
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Speaker 3: that you know, has been so adamant even as a
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Speaker 3: head coach. He was trying to think away where he
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Speaker 3: could be up there. But yeah, that Davis Webb wants
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Speaker 3: to be on the sidelines, Bo wants him down there,
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Speaker 3: And to me, that's all the votes you need. And
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Speaker 3: I think since that's the way Sean came up too.
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Speaker 3: As a play caller, you know, he likes being on
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Speaker 3: this and as a head coach play caller, that's been
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Speaker 3: his view for you know, sixteen seventeen years now, so
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Speaker 3: he he really likes the view from there. So it
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Speaker 3: was gonna shock me if Davis Webb was in the
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Speaker 3: oats box. So it does sort of actually make that
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Speaker 3: public what was kind of bubbling behind the scenes.
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Speaker 4: Anyway, all right, I probably should have followed up after
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Speaker 4: we were talking about the injuries, but I was curious
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Speaker 4: about the play Caunk, so asking out. I know you
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Speaker 4: told Nate that you know they are looking to do it,
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Speaker 4: they're frustrated the a's element of dad coming home and
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Speaker 4: all that, But is there any injury that we're really
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Speaker 4: concerned about to this point or is this all just
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Speaker 4: sort of nagging stuff of camp.
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Speaker 3: Well, Andy, you and I have talked over the years
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Speaker 3: here the Lotto one. You could have predicted a guy
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Speaker 3: who played it essentially sea level and practiced at sea
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Speaker 3: level comes up to altitude and players through the years
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Speaker 3: I've seen in a million times. It affects how you
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Speaker 3: have to hydrate living up here. We know it living here,
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Speaker 3: but on the elite athlete level, it really becomes an
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Speaker 3: issue you have to address in a different way. You
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Speaker 3: can't simply maybe like drink the same amount of water
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Speaker 3: and sports drink or whatever as you have in the past.
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Speaker 3: You've got to You've got to do more, you know,
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Speaker 3: living here. It's just a fact. And so that one
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Speaker 3: didn't surprise me at all because that I've seen it
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Speaker 3: happen in every camp I've covered for the Broncos. It's
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Speaker 3: it's happened so and I don't know that that was
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Speaker 3: the because of Jalen Wattell specifically, but I do know
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Speaker 3: every time they have one of these injuries, Sean Payton
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Speaker 3: mentions hydration. So it's on his mind. And today, if
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Speaker 3: you listen closely, he has a moment where he says
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Speaker 3: it's incumbent on the player, and then he stops himself
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Speaker 3: and he moves on to the to the next thought.
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Speaker 3: So I think in his mind there's at least an
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Speaker 3: element of the team and the players have to do
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Speaker 3: better right now to make sure they're hydrating, they're you know,
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Speaker 3: eating the way they want them to eat, you know,
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Speaker 3: getting there all the stuff you talk about. I think
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Speaker 3: he's re emphasizing that to them and the concern level.
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Speaker 3: You know, Nim's was back today a little bit. Wattle
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Speaker 3: certainly is moving much better than he was even just
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Speaker 3: a few days ago when he he had a very
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Speaker 3: noticeable limp, and today he was He didn't practice, but
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Speaker 3: he was catching passes from the quarterbacks early and in
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Speaker 3: practice before they they got things going. Uh. And he
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Speaker 3: had the gloves on like he was gonna practice even
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Speaker 3: though he wasn't gonna. So I think he's progressing. The
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Speaker 3: Dobbins run, I don't think we know much yet. Uh.
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Speaker 3: I don't think he was happy running off the field.
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Speaker 3: And he did run off the field right next to me,
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Speaker 3: so uh he was moving at least a little bit. Uh,
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Speaker 3: you know, not badly, but uh, he did not look
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Speaker 3: very happy when he when he went into the locker room.
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Speaker 1: That's our buddy, Jeff Legwold with all the latest on
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Speaker 1: the soft tissue injuries for the Broncos. Jeff Legwald brought
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Speaker 1: to you by the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers IBW
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Speaker 1: Local sixty eight. Start with a job and with a career, Jeff,
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Speaker 1: your colleague Kevin Seffert of ESPN reporting today that the
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Speaker 1: NFL will allow head coaches to designate a member of
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Speaker 1: their sideline staff to initiate replay challenges, according to a
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Speaker 1: league official, as we know, head coaches previously had only
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Speaker 1: been the holders of the red flag and throwing it.
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Speaker 1: This was not announced at the annual meeting, but apparently
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Speaker 1: the head coach or the head coach's pregame challenge designee
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Speaker 1: can initiate a challenge by throwing a red flag onto
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Speaker 1: the field, which naturally leads to the question, Jeff Sehn
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Speaker 1: Payton already gave up play calling duties, is there a
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Speaker 1: world where he gives up red flag duties as well?
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Speaker 3: Now he has more time concentrate on red flag.
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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I don't know if that's a
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Speaker 2: good thing.
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Speaker 4: I was about to say, he doesn't have that high
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Speaker 4: success rate.
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Speaker 3: Well, it's hard for me to believe though, that any
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Speaker 3: challenge would not have gone through his headset before anybody
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Speaker 3: else to throw the flag. So, but uh, I can
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Speaker 3: see why. I mean, you know, some coaches have play callers,
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Speaker 3: and you know, are the play callers on either side
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Speaker 3: of the ball, and you know, you can get wrapped
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Speaker 3: up and all that. So I think in a game situation,
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Speaker 3: but usually there's already somebody designated, you know, either in
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Speaker 3: the coach's box or on the sideline, you may want
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Speaker 3: to take a look at that, you know, type of
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Speaker 3: thing to get us attention. So I think it just
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Speaker 3: formalizes that a little bit uh and gives the head coach.
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Speaker 3: I think the coaches have said, just give us the
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Speaker 3: option too. You know, one person still gets to throw
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Speaker 3: the flag, but just give us the option to figure
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Speaker 3: that out in the in the way we want to.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: See, I I gotta be honest with you, guys, I
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Speaker 1: hate this rule change. Like like Kevin Seffert wrote it
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Speaker 1: right in his piece, some coaches have acknowledged challenging calls
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Speaker 1: for emotional rather than strategic reasons, and a designated staff
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Speaker 1: member could provide a fire wall for such decisions.
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Speaker 2: Why do we want a firewall? I do want some coach.
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Speaker 1: Flying off the handle and fire in a red flag
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Speaker 1: just because he's pissed off at a ref like that,
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Speaker 1: to me is yet another game day challenge. Coaches are
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Speaker 1: always talking about keep your emotions in check. Well, this
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Speaker 1: is this is the test on them of whether or
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Speaker 1: not they can.
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Speaker 2: Actually, this is.
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Speaker 4: Like hockey too, right, where Hockey's got the person. You know,
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Speaker 4: they're always praising the AVS guy on the broadcast if
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Speaker 4: he's always perfect when telling the coach when the challenge right, like.
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Speaker 1: Like, you still don't want that guy, but I don't
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Speaker 1: want to stare a lot. I want I want to
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Speaker 1: fiery football coach, and especially like when they get really
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Speaker 1: mad and then they throw the red flag halfway out
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Speaker 1: onto the field.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good.
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Speaker 4: I don't want to do away with Do you like
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Speaker 4: the Billichick angry just the just the drop.
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Speaker 1: See, it's just, Jeff, It's just it's just another example
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Speaker 1: of them trying to do everything they can to sanitize
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Speaker 1: pro football.
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Speaker 3: I do like the I'm so off better. Yeah, that
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Speaker 3: one's just like the ultimate I'm so done with all
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Speaker 3: of you. I'm just gonna drop this red flag right here.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw it right at the rest of the shit.
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but I do.
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Speaker 4: You're right though, you get the good one like Harball
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Speaker 4: back in the old.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, looking to throw that thing.
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Speaker 4: Yeah all right, Jeff, the concrete company caved and now
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Speaker 4: they've got the concrete company property. What's left before they
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Speaker 4: secure the whole desired site. Is it just the water
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Speaker 4: building or what's left to this?
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Speaker 3: Oh, it's yeah, there's there's Denver water. Uh, you know
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Speaker 3: how they're gonna divvy up that relocation and then just
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Speaker 3: the whole community document. None of that is done, so
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Speaker 3: that there's still a lot of that to do. You
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Speaker 3: know what the neighborhood benefit document. They haven't even agreed
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Speaker 3: with the you know, the neighborhood groups as to what
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Speaker 3: would be on that you know document right now. So
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Speaker 3: still a ways to go. I mean the actual footprint
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Speaker 3: of the side, that's it's a they've got most of
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Speaker 3: it now so uh and they had the stadium itself
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Speaker 3: footprint before was ready. This is just more of the
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Speaker 3: sort of the campus big project, big picture project.
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Speaker 2: Mixed use entertainment district right now.
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Speaker 3: But all of the all of the community stuff is
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Speaker 3: still ongoing and and I you know, you won't until
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Speaker 3: all of that stuff goes to the city council for
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Speaker 3: approvals that there won't be any shovels in the ground.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't have pro sports without mixed use entertainment.
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Speaker 1: That's Jeff Legwald of ESPN. Everybody, we'll take a quick
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Speaker 1: break when we come back. Let's talk a little bit
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Speaker 1: about this Broncos defense, who is standing out so far
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Speaker 1: in this camp and what we're looking for coming up
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Speaker 1: on Friday night against the Falcons. Jeff Legwald of ESPN
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Speaker 1: Start with a job and with a career. Jeff, let's
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Speaker 1: talk about this Broncos defense. We had a good conversation
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Speaker 1: with Malcolm Roach earlier today. Have you been able to
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Speaker 1: identify an area where this Broncos defense might be even better?
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Speaker 1: If that's possible, then they were last season.
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Speaker 3: Well, if they add the turnovers and knockdown passes they've
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Speaker 3: had in camp so far to the mix. Uh, you know,
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Speaker 3: that's really the only frontier they have. Uh. You know,
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Speaker 3: when you look at last year's metrics, whatever whatever lens
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Speaker 3: you want to look at last year's defense through even
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Speaker 3: then you know, with some bobbles down the stretch, the
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Speaker 3: overall picture was, you know, one of the best in
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Speaker 3: the league, top three or four in the the advanced
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Speaker 3: metrics people care about and the regular metrics we we
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Speaker 3: care about. But the turnovers were lacking. And if if
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Speaker 3: they find those, then uh, they've really they've really added something.
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Speaker 3: What has stuck out to me every day at practice
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Speaker 3: is a how much they've absolutely destroyed run periods. And
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Speaker 3: in some ways you expect in camp it's you know,
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Speaker 3: the the old lineman can't put anybody on the ground
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Speaker 3: in camp. I mean it's all built against you know,
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Speaker 3: it's like one on one kings are really built against
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Speaker 3: the old lignement in a lot of ways because so
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Speaker 3: much of that job is collaborative. But uh, you know,
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Speaker 3: I think the run periods are stuck out. And just
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Speaker 3: how much team speed they have all the way through
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Speaker 3: the depth chart, they have more team speed and the
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Speaker 3: twos and the threes than some people have, you know,
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Speaker 3: across their top you know, fifteen sixteen players on defense,
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Speaker 3: and when I look at it from an evaluation, Leeds,
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Speaker 3: that's that's really you know, something they've tried to do.
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Speaker 3: You can't assemble this much team speed if it's not
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Speaker 3: on your agenda?
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Speaker 4: Jeff, what what one? Is there been a defensive player
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Speaker 4: that surprised you in camp so far?
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Speaker 2: How about that we're about a week?
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Speaker 4: What are we?
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Speaker 3: Man?
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Speaker 4: We're more of the week.
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Speaker 2: Now what ten.
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Speaker 4: Days in you've had a really good it? Is there
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Speaker 4: a guy there that surprised you? Now I know you've
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Speaker 4: talked to need him?
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Speaker 2: Is he? Is he still?
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Speaker 4: I guess the biggest surprise or is there somebody else lurking?
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Speaker 3: Well? I mean it's hard. Surprise isn't where I'd go.
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Speaker 3: I go with guys who are having camps that would
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Speaker 3: have been good enough to make it, and you're okay,
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Speaker 3: then they're gonna have a hard time this year, you know.
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Speaker 3: And they're they're having great camps. But you know, the
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Speaker 3: the young rookie safety, you know, Miles Scott, I'm not
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Speaker 3: sure there's uh, you know, there is roommate for that
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Speaker 3: fourth safety, but it's competitive. You know that Tyson Anderson
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Speaker 3: was one of the few guys they signed in free agency,
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Speaker 3: the only guy for a while from somewhere else. Now
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Speaker 3: he's special teams mostly, but you can't just be a
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Speaker 3: special teamer, you know, in safety. So I think Miles
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Speaker 3: Scott's had a good camp quietly, you know Coleman obviously,
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Speaker 3: but you know he's making it. It will take a
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Speaker 3: you know, some kind of crazy circumstance that that Jonah
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Speaker 3: Coleman doesn't make the roster. I think Drew Sanders has
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Speaker 3: looked good, but you know, where where does he fit?
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Speaker 3: You know, he's worked at edge most of the time.
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Speaker 3: Are they going to keep more than four there? You
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Speaker 3: know that there's just all these guys that are having
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Speaker 3: good enough camps that there's there's sort of not room
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Speaker 3: for along the way.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's just there's a major lack of jobs
20:37
Speaker 1: available with this team. It just goes to show you
20:39
Speaker 1: how good that they are. And yet, Jeff, is there
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Speaker 1: is there a guy or two on the defensive side
20:45
Speaker 1: of the ball that you think like the preseason games,
20:48
Speaker 1: and I guess I'll even say offensive side of the
20:50
Speaker 1: ball as well, I think, you know, a tight end job.
20:53
Speaker 1: I think there's a position battle for like the fourth
20:54
Speaker 1: tight end right now. But is there a guy or
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Speaker 1: two that you think is you know, a couple of
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Speaker 1: good showings in the preseason away from solidifying their spot
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Speaker 1: on the fifty three.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, probably an inside linebacker. Yeah, you know, I think
21:07
Speaker 3: I think Red Murdock, I think.
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Speaker 2: He's Yeah, would have been my first. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: If he has moments in the games like he's had
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Speaker 3: in practice, you know that the thing is in in
21:19
Speaker 3: Djay's defense. Uh, you know, that guy's making the calls
21:24
Speaker 3: that position. And for him to be a rookie and
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Speaker 3: to pretty seamlessly making calls and practice is is really telling.
21:35
Speaker 3: And then you add in that he is starting to show,
21:39
Speaker 3: uh you know what else he does. You know, he's
21:42
Speaker 3: not overthinking and playing slow. He's making all the calls,
21:47
Speaker 3: moving to the ball, playing with anticipation. And the other
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Speaker 3: day he knocked the ball out, which is his absolute,
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Speaker 3: uh trademark. You know, I've I've done the draft a
21:57
Speaker 3: little while, and I'm I've seen very few guys have
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Speaker 3: that kind of knack for getting the ball on the ground,
22:05
Speaker 3: you know, and all that time. And if you even
22:07
Speaker 3: have an inkling of that at the NFL level, people
22:11
Speaker 3: are gonna want you around. And I you know, the
22:15
Speaker 3: other guy, he's gonna get playing time. But Hugh Robinson
22:18
Speaker 3: looks like a different player from last year. He last
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Speaker 3: year he had flashes and like today, in the one
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Speaker 3: on ones, just really showed a lot of quick I mean,
22:30
Speaker 3: that's if you're a good drafting team. Hugh Robinson is
22:34
Speaker 3: the kind of player you find. He selects snaps at
22:38
Speaker 3: a big time program, you know, coached well in college,
22:44
Speaker 3: comes to you with all kinds of traits that you
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Speaker 3: like in a player. He just didn't play much, but
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Speaker 3: you see, you know the potential what he could be.
22:55
Speaker 3: And he has made that proverbial jump between rookie and
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Speaker 3: and second year and case casey. I don't know if
23:03
Speaker 3: there's room for him on the roster. I don't know
23:05
Speaker 3: if he'd make it through waivers, but that guy might
23:08
Speaker 3: be a four position player before he's done playing NFL football.
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Speaker 3: And he's really stood out as a young lineman. He
23:18
Speaker 3: looks a lot more refined than just a rookie rookie lineman.
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Speaker 4: All Right, Jeff, I gotta ask if Jonah Coleman he
23:29
Speaker 4: keeps getting talked about.
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Speaker 2: Now, I'm not going to tell you.
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Speaker 4: I was telling me. You know what's been weird about
23:33
Speaker 4: this camp that we've not dealt with in the last
23:35
Speaker 4: few years is I feel like I'm actually walking you know,
23:37
Speaker 4: you just talked about it. There they haven't had a
23:39
Speaker 4: lot of injuries, and I feel like I'm spending as
23:41
Speaker 4: much time trying to figure out does a guy feel okay?
23:43
Speaker 4: Is that something to worry about? And maybe I'm missing
23:46
Speaker 4: the reps it as Jonah Coleman pop. I guess I
23:48
Speaker 4: haven't really completely noticed, but a number of people are
23:51
Speaker 4: talking about him. What have you liked about the young
23:54
Speaker 4: rookie that you think puts him on track to be
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Speaker 4: a contributor to the team.
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Speaker 3: But you're not gonna notice, you know, per se a
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Speaker 3: runner like that, and because he's physical, his game is physicality.
24:06
Speaker 3: But when whenever I looked at runners in a situation
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Speaker 3: where you're not tackling to the ground and you know,
24:14
Speaker 3: second effort tackles or breaking tackles are not going to
24:18
Speaker 3: be part of the equation and they're not in practice anymore.
24:21
Speaker 3: You can't practice that way anymore. Guys are too big,
24:24
Speaker 3: too strong, too fast. You can't go Monday through Friday,
24:28
Speaker 3: you know, like they used to. But his decisiveness is
24:32
Speaker 3: what you're looking at when he sees the you know,
24:35
Speaker 3: I always liken it to the the the doors at
24:40
Speaker 3: the grocery store, they're only going to stay open, you know,
24:43
Speaker 3: and then they're going to close. That's that's what the
24:45
Speaker 3: run game is in the NFL, and it's a lot
24:48
Speaker 3: quicker than college college. You get a little more time
24:53
Speaker 3: to decide what do I want to do? You know,
24:55
Speaker 3: where do I want to cut it up?
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Speaker 2: Uh?
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Speaker 3: You just have more time and with with In the NFL,
25:02
Speaker 3: defenders are all fast for their size. The three hundred
25:06
Speaker 3: pounders are fast, the inside linebackers are fast, and the
25:10
Speaker 3: dbs are really really fast. So your decisiveness determines how
25:16
Speaker 3: well it's going to go. And I think that's where R. J.
25:18
Speaker 3: Harvey has gotten when when he doesn't get all there
25:24
Speaker 3: is blocked on a run, it's because of that. Uh.
25:27
Speaker 3: You know he's just a tick late uh to the party,
25:31
Speaker 3: as it were, whereas Coleman is right into the correct track.
25:36
Speaker 3: You know, most run plays, especially in the zone run game. UH. Coaches,
25:41
Speaker 3: you know, Mike Shanahan, Kubiak, Mike Heimerdinger have always told
25:45
Speaker 3: me a zone run game, especially at its best, you're
25:49
Speaker 3: going to have uh. The their optimum is that you
25:52
Speaker 3: have three choices as a runner. You know, when when
25:56
Speaker 3: it's time to cut it up the field, if they've
25:58
Speaker 3: done it right, So making the best of those the
26:03
Speaker 3: most quickly. Uh, that's when you're really gonna get everything
26:07
Speaker 3: there is blocked in the run. And last year, that's
26:11
Speaker 3: what the metrics showed for the Broncos. They they scored
26:15
Speaker 3: very well in advanced metrics and how they blocked the
26:19
Speaker 3: run game, but they didn't get the expected yards out
26:24
Speaker 3: of those plays. And that tells you there's a disconnect
26:27
Speaker 3: between how it's getting blocked in the backs, especially after Dobbins, Yeah,
26:33
Speaker 3: was out of the lineup.
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Speaker 1: I think Dobbins was a full yard over expectation, but
26:37
Speaker 1: everybody else was like, well below.
26:39
Speaker 3: And that's that's you know, a lot of advanced metrics
26:42
Speaker 3: you can kind of pick away at. Yeah, I don't
26:44
Speaker 3: know what about this. That's a actual that's a really
26:47
Speaker 3: good one. And Coleman addresses that. That tells you the
26:53
Speaker 3: team felt that way too, because his you know, he
26:57
Speaker 3: isn't gonna run away from defenders in the open field.
27:02
Speaker 3: And that's why some running back coaches were like, you know,
27:06
Speaker 3: I want to move on to other guys, but to me,
27:09
Speaker 3: that's a pro runner. He's gonna get what's there and
27:13
Speaker 3: he's gonna break tackles, and he's hellacious and pass protection
27:18
Speaker 3: and that is hard to find in a young back.
27:20
Speaker 3: So that that's why I think, you know, from a
27:24
Speaker 3: football perspective, he's he's advancing so quickly and he's taking
27:28
Speaker 3: snaps with the twos now. So uh, this isn't some
27:32
Speaker 3: phony discussion we're having. This is a guy who's really rising,
27:36
Speaker 3: you know daily.
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Speaker 1: Jeff Legwald, everybody ESPN dot com. The question is who's
27:41
Speaker 1: going to be that number two quarterback? That will be
27:43
Speaker 1: determined one of the things we're looking for on Friday night.
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27:54
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27:57
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Speaker 1: you the most important information that you need to know
28:04
Speaker 1: what's going on with the Broncos.
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Speaker 2: Leggy awesome as always, man, Thank you, Thank smellings.
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Speaker 3: I appreciate you.