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#246 - For Azeroth!: “Working in the Dragon Isles” · For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast

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  Tehran for the Kirin Tor and REO for calendar, organists our
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  cars, not die for the sin Dora for the alliance for a Syrah.
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  Hello and Welcome back to another episode of for Azeroth.
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  I am one of your host, the True Villain Manny and I am joined
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  once again after what seems like so long.
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  Bye Liv Liv, we're back together.
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  The band is back together. So we're course, of course, I've
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  got to ask how has the World of Warcraft, be treating you so
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  well, so incredibly well I have Defeated Raz cath, I have gone
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  and done so many Mythic plus Dungeons and leveled.
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  So many characters and gotten into the weeds of crafting and
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  doing a whole bunch of stuff that I didn't really think that
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  I would enjoy getting into. But nonetheless, have enjoyed.
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  Yeah. Like okay.
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  So I was away last week. We met and so, obviously, you
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  had lexon. Yes.
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  And you guys were talking and saying about what you guys have
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  done and It was like I was listening to two different
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  people. I wasn't listening to like Lex
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  and live Lex and live who like doing Mythic plus what great
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  know. It's weird.
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  And anybody who listens to this, show knows how fervently you
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  dislike being forced, I'm using quotation marks into Mythic
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  plus. So I gotta ask, like, what
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  forced you into it, this time I didn't get forced into it.
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  That's the thing. That's the thing is that I'm
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  doing it because I enjoy doing it and not because I feel like I
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  have to and that's the big difference.
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  This time around. So what's making you feel like
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  you don't have to? Because it like Mythic Plus for
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  me has gone from the best method of gearing, a character to a To
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  a good method of gearing character, if that makes sense.
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  Like it's it is not by and like by Leaps and Bounds better but
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  Is a really good way to gear to gear character up and I think, I
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  think the other thing for it this time around is that there
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  seems to be there seems to be like a slowing down effect.
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  That is a result of the, the like difficulty changes that
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  they made to it. So the Lower Keys feel feel a
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  lot more approachable. And it doesn't feel like
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  everyone's just at like a Breakneck speed trying to get
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  into 20s. Like, it feels like it feels
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  like there are more people at my skill level.
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  Doing the dungeons, that, that I feel comfortable doing because
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  there's there's kind of like a, there's kind of a barrier to
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  getting into the like plus 15 to 20 area.
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  So people are staying long Anger in the, the Lower Keys.
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  So I'm having a lot more fun going through playing playing it
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  at my own pace and not feeling like I have to bend over
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  backwards in order to get into the like higher rungs of Mythic
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  Plus in order to like keep up. So that's another factor to it.
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  What you're saying makes a lot of sense.
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  It kind of goes along the lines of a blizzard developer who was
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  talking at a game developers conference and at the GDC this
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  guy was talking about actually Diablo Diablo 3 in particular,
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  was talking about over incentivisation, how people
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  would do stuff for the loot and to, like, quote Coltrane, it's
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  all about the loot, right? Would do stuff for the loot and
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  then would do Tough. Because that carrot was there.
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  But then as soon as they were stopped, being rewarded, it has
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  dropped off. So you would have this high
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  level of participation that Breakneck speed to hit that hit
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  20s. But as soon as the reward wasn't
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  enough, people would drop it. And I think You're kind of
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  talking about that theory and practice, in terms of with the
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  increased difficulty with the fact that the gear isn't as
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  like, instantly better than anything else.
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  Like you said, like the fastest de-facto best way to Gear Up.
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  And the fact that the pace is something that is far, like
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  people are going at your speed. People are there less people who
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  have KSM in this season than there were in like season one of
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  shadowlands or season or other seasons of shadowlands.
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  And all of that increase difficulty, all that slowed
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  progress is actually a positive for you.
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  Yeah, it is funny how that happens.
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  But no like in all seriousness like there are a lot of there's
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  a lot of discourse around this phenomenon and around Mythic
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  Plus in particular about the difficulty hike and and the
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  spreading out of the difficulty, over five additional levels,
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  That people peeps. Like a lot of people are upset
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  about set by it because they're looking at it and comparing it
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  to the progress that they were making at a similar time last
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  expansion and feeling like they should be progressing a lot
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  faster. Than they are.
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  But that's that's kind of like at the beginning of an
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  expansion, you kind of have to expect that you're not going to
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  be at the like doing the same things that you were at the end
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  of the previous expansion. Because like at the end you have
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  all the gear that's been occurring over the course of the
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  expansion. You have the, the, the power
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  behind that gear, propelling you forward, and making a lot easier
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  for you to get into into the lake.
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  Like the mid-range keys that allows you to like like keep the
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  Snowball Effect going into the upper stage keys and you don't
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  have that at the beginning of an expansion.
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  So inherently at the beginning of an expansion, there's going
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  to be a slowing down of progress naturally.
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  Even divorced from the the changes they made to the Mythic
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  plus system to stretch it out over a broader period of time.
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  Okay, so I guess on top of that, we don't have all of this
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  external power, okay? Apparently I have to give
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  trigger warnings for this. We don't have the borrowed power
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  that we had previously, because like, if you think about
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  shadowlands, you're like gaining your soul, your soul binds.
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  You're trying to get your legendaries crafted from tour,
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  gas on top of the regular Gary. NG and part of that is I guess
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  relative power because all of that has to be factored into how
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  Challenging these dungeons where but yeah, it is a very funny
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  phenomenon because neither you nor Lex were Mythic plus enjoy
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  yours. Yeah.
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  Suze assist in previous expansions and so it was very
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  surprising to hear that you guys were diving headfirst in in fact
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  last week or this week I got to run I'm a Mythic dungeon with
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  Lex and she was she was healing me through Halls of Valor, which
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  is good. Like it's a lot of fun.
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  I mean, I've been away for two weeks.
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  So like my progress is very much stunted.
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  I'm trying to play catch up. My running parade with my team.
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  Oh man, I feel. I feel so bad because they're
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  all weird like high-level gear, they speedrunning her role.
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  Make for a couple of weeks they've been pushing Mythic plus
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  so. By Gary has no, we're at the
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  same level as them. I switched characters away from
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  my warlock back to the shaman because warlocks for especially
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  Affliction, which is what I chose, we're not in the best
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  place. So I've been doing a lot of a
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  lot of catch-up and sometimes the numbers are not there for
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  gear, for practice for whatever reason.
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  And I'm playing with a much more hard core team, this expansion.
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  Yeah. Put and then and then you pop in
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  to a raid night with get your crap together and here's the top
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  of the chart, Everything's Relative it is it is relative
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  but yeah. But the other the other part to
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  it is I was talking with my friend with a friend of the show
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  friend of yours multi, Al hmm. And I was talking about all the
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  stuff that I have not been doing in Shadow lands where you live
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  have been. So into Dragon riding and
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  getting all the gold and all of that and multi and I have not
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  touched Dragon riding it all or World quest for that matter.
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  Is this Like one of those things where I'm just like, I don't
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  want to do World quests, I just, it's just part of the game that,
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  if it, if I look at it and it's like, okay, you reward something
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  substantial to me and I'm gonna go and, like, pop in and do that
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  World quest like the field of ferocity every so often that I
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  know that'll give something worth my time, and I'll be like,
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  oh yeah, it's running their kill one, boss and get out sure.
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  Right. Yeah, yeah.
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  Is there any part of the game that you haven't been pet
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  battles in PVP? Like those are the two like
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  paintings in do weaknesses, right?
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  Right? Yeah, like perfect week to log
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  in it. So it's the PVP week.
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  Okay, well I'm not really doing much this week anyway.
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  No. But I like speaking of World
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  quest. That's that's something
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  interesting to talk about. with with regard to this is that like
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  for me the the driving Factor behind going in and doing World
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  quest for me in the first couple of weeks for doing like most
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  open world content in general like like Overworld like
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  questing and and like interacting with with NPCs and
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  stuff has been Like the driving Factor behind.
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  That was the, the black dragonflight reputations, the,
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  the rathian and civilian I kept both of them.
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  And I haven't really done much World content beyond that.
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  To be perfectly honest. Like, I have gotten in.
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  I did that on one character, haven't done it again on another
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  character because the the rewards are basically
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  account-wide unlock except for the gear which except for the
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  gear. But the gear is is less relevant
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  because because I've like, there are there are other ways to get
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  Through to get through doing that.
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  And at the level that I that I'm playing at that gear is
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  basically just a stopgap and is replaced.
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  It's the very first thing to that, that I replaced on my Mage
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  was the gear that I bought from civilian rathian.
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  So like, I don't, I don't really feel like it's that relevant at
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  this point, like it was super relevant in the first couple of
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  weeks, but now it's not relevant anymore and that's okay.
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  That's okay. It was definitely a relevant,
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  but actually that kind of falls into another thing because
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  you've been trying to figure out which character you want to play
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  use, we're talking about the, the Mage and I saw the tweet
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  that the may just wasn't cutting it for you.
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  And now you've shifted back to the evoker.
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  Yes. And but like you had a priest
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  that you were working on. Did the shadow, just not feel up
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  for the task. Well, so it was it was a top
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  Contender for character to choose to, to like step in and
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  go into the the a OTC progression with.
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  But the thing that pulled me away from it, was that my
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  frustrations that I'd been feeling on on my mage And just
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  in, in raid, in general was like as a Caster, like not having a
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  whole lot of mobility. And so, going from Mage to
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  priest wouldn't solve that problem.
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  It would just exacerbate that issue of not not having the
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  mobility that, that I feel like I would like, to have in a
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  toolkit in order to play optimally in a rate environment
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  and the Poker is definitely in the direction that I want to go
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  in of having a more mobile class because I don't want to play a
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  Melee character because as much as I love my melee classes, I
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  love, I love death knight, I love Demon Hunter, I love both
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  of them dearly but there's just too many melee.
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  There's too many melee playing this game made me.
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  There's too many melee. What about Hunter?
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  Because like if you talking about mobile there's specs of
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  Hunter that just could dance around. 47 and never skip a beat
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  on there, on the rotation. I swore off Hunter went, what's
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  the release date of cataclysm? Someone would wait until the
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  release date of cataclysmic. A parody of yourself.
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  You start talking about character classes?
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  You're never gonna play. No, I but like what were your
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  frustrations with the Mage especially in Arcane Mage which
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  has Several quick cast spells or you were playing Arcane, right?
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  Mmm. Yeah.
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  Right simple. Quick cast spells was is
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  actually doing pretty good in terms of damage in general.
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  Yeah it was at the top of the chart for a good while but it's
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  it's the the having to line up all of the different cooldowns
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  and Wake up. Keep in general. alongside
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  having having a lot of moments where you're stuck hard casting
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  for like pretty significant chunks of time where you don't
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  like, you have options to be able to move, but it's, it is
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  suboptimal to move whereas playing a class like evoker
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  Devastation of ochre specifically, like you have a
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  lot more leeway in In how you can use your tool kit to be a
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  lot more Mobile on in the Box room.
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  So it's a lot more, it's a lot more forgiving for movement,
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  especially Especially in today's rating environment where it
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  seems like they just keep stacking more and more movement
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  requirements on fights. So I have a lot more fun rating
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  on my ogre than I do on my Mage. Currently you would broaden the
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  vocaroo but first week, right? Or at least you were doing just
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  a week previous today. Raid launching was, when you
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  dropped your vocre. Mmm.
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  Yeah, it's the first you end up dropping that And I'm dropping
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  it. Just because I had gotten that
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  character up to till I woke up. I got the hooker up first that
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  was my first 70 and I started leveling the Mage because I knew
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  I wanted I knew I wanted an alt and I wanted I wanted a
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  character that I could, you know, continue to like go around
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  and do open-world stuff, but I ended up getting the Mage 270
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  stupid. Fast and just got sucked in and
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  was just like, okay, but I just live here now, this is my name
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  and that's that's more. The reason that I went to Mage,
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  it wasn't going away from evoker.
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  It was just I was having a blast.
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  Some might even say an Arcane blast on the Mage and I just
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  wanted to Like exist in that space at that time and was just
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  like I'm having so much fun with this.
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  I don't really want to put the work into gearing up to
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  character, so I'm just going to switch my focus to the Mage and
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  that's the reason I switched. Okay?
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  But so your Mage how geared was it like when you decided to
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  switch back to the Volker, Around around normal normal,
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  raid, gear level, I want to say. So you got any wed done, the
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  Mythic plus because you're doing mythical us now.
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  I'll get used to that soon enough.
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  He's done some Mythic plus, you have done some raid, you got on
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  some raindrops, you're gearing up.
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  You played, what is it now? Four weeks into the raid?
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  No, three weeks. Three weeks into the raid.
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  Right? Three weeks.
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  Because if we've had like technically, three weeks,
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  because we've had multiple right nights that we weren't doing
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  stuff, because over the holidays, I think.
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  But yeah, right. There's gear a lot of love like
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  you were gearing this you're like putting it putting the
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  power behind it. You just said that you were
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  doing good damage in terms of in terms of I was doing okay
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  damage. It's doing I was doing okay?
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  In terms of the rate team like you're getting this thing out
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  and then you're looking back to your vocre which you didn't
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  gear, it's you Put the effort of gearing to Tunes just said, you
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  didn't want to do so like yeah what and you said it was about
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  the love of the Mage. So why did you fall out of love
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  with the Mage? It's a good question.
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  It's a good question. I think I think it's the like, I
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  was excited by The Thrill of the like the, the optimizing, the
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  Arcane Mage because I was looking at it in kind of like a
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  vacuum of like, oh, I'll be able to like, like, Parse out where
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  we're to do things a little bit easier.
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  Going through normal because typically, normal is a lot more
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  forgiving mechanics-wise than heroic is.
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  So I'll have like a little bit more time with it to be able to
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  parse things out and understand like we're cool.
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  Down usage is optimal and everything like that and then
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  got into the actual raid and oh my gosh, the Arcane Mage
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  cooldown often nation is just all over the place, like things
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  line up right at the beginning of the fight and then very
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  swiftly unravel from there because you're like having to
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  offset a whole bunch of different things to like just
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  from like force breaks in fights like the Razzle gasps fight for
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  example like there's forced down time out the Wazoo in that fight
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  where there's just you know like 556 S where you're just not
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  doing anything. And if you're not doing anything
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  as Arcane Mage, you're basically just kind of like everything is
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  Unsinkable very rapidly and it's very difficult to get things
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  back on track where things are lining up properly, the way that
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  you need to, for Arcane Mage damage to, to flourish.
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  So that was a frustration that I was met with and I don't really,
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  I don't really necessarily like the other two spikes of Mage
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  like Arcane is basically, the only spec that I wanted to play,
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  And I was just getting frustrated with it.
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  Okay, well I think this is a pretty interesting.
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  Pretty interesting, how things went for you, how you enjoyed
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  some aged? It was completely different in
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  or it didn't have the same appeal in the raid and that
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  you're switching over to the devastation of ochre.
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  Which like when you, when you decide to make that switch, what
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  was the difference in item? Level roughly a good like 20
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  levels, what do you levels? Yeah, but that have time to make
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  it up. Between now and Sunday.
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  So it's fine. So it's and I lie, 20 levels.
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  Oh no. Like it's gotten a lot better.
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  Like, I've gone through and and done some like major renovation
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  as closer to like five levels. Now I think at this point.
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  Okay. Outside of like a couple of
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  outstanding pieces that desperately need to be updated
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  but yeah I have I have plenty. I have a plan in place, don't
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  don't you? Worry Manny.
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  Okay. I mean, like, I have gone
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  through a similar thing. I was switching Mains, this
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  expansion. I went over to the Warlock.
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  I went on Affliction, I did one night of rating and I just felt
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  that I did not. Or not even one night of rating.
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  I was trying to do some dungeons the week before the raid came
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  out, felt that my damage was not where it should be.
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  Hmm, decided to switch from Affliction to demonology because
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  people said, hey, demonology is quick quick to learn it's doing
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  well, you should be able to, you should be able to do this.
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  And so, I went into the first night of rating on demonology
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  with only about a week worth of practicing on the rotation and
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  like, I just, I felt so lost, like, in terms of gameplay.
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  Way and it like it doesn't matter about my damage.
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  My damage was poor. And I think if my damage is
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  amazing even though I didn't know how to play it then I'd be
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  like Yay. Right?
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  But so like the damage being poor definitely definitely help
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  but like being so lost on the spec was what really did it for
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  me. I go into a encounter.
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  On my Shaman and I know what I can do and what I can't do, and
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  what's going to get me in trouble and what's, and what's
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  going to get me out of trouble? And I don't need to be trying to
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  look at tool tips or any of that.
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  Like I just have such an innate knowledge of of my Shaman and
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  I've had that for years. So it was very Disquieting to to
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  feel so lost in a raid. And I'm stepping it up this
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  expansion. I'm not I'm not just going for a
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  OT. See I'm pushing into Mythic I'm
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  going for Higher Goals than I have before.
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  So for me the switch wasn't just because I am happier on Shaman.
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  It was because I felt that I really wasn't bringing it on the
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  Warlock, but I'm keeping I'm still playing the Warlock.
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  The Warlock is something that I am running through all of its
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  Weekly's. It's still at.
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  It's not that good of an item level now.
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  Comparatively, but that, that warlock is like 386 item level.
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  Right. Whereas my shaman. even though
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  it was roughly 30 item levels, lower Right.
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  I was able to do better damage on the shaman.
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  When I brought it to the raid with get your crit together.
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  Yeah. So that like that innate
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  knowledge that you build up over time of playing a class in
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  knowing it so thoroughly like it it shows Gives you just.
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  You just get to a level where you don't think about it.
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  It's just, it just happens right through a point.
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  Like, obviously, we're at the beginning of an expansion, we
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  have the new Talent system, so, and like the itemization is, is
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  different. The rotation is different,
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  especially, as you're changing talents, you may not have a
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  button in your rotation at all let alone, what priority it
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  hits, right? So there is still some learning
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  that That I need to do but like the range that I can drop a
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  stunt Odom, how how big a radius that will stun my cone on
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  particular moves, all of that stuff, I don't have to think
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  about. And that's a level of that level
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  of intimacy and familiarity. Definitely helps my play, it
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  also. So helps that Enhancement Shaman
• 28:27
  is in a really good space. I think again we never talked
• 28:33
  about this on this show because I don't think it is the really
• 28:37
  that important enhancement is in the higher DPS parses this week
• 28:46
  in the rating funnily enough, Arcane Mages, the top parsing
• 28:51
  DPS. Mmm. but, Even so it's not that
• 29:03
  that was pushing me to make a decision, one way.
• 29:06
  Or another it when I was moving off of the shaman, it was
• 29:09
  definitely like, oh man, I want to do this for my Ray team, were
• 29:13
  male a heavy were at work, and I have a lot of evoke errs and
• 29:19
  hunters. And so it's going to be hard for
• 29:21
  me to get loot. We went through.
• 29:26
  Five or six of the heroic bosses last night.
• 29:33
  And I didn't get a single piece of loot, like, it's hard to get
• 29:37
  Loot on my Shaman because there's just a lot of
• 29:40
  competition. But that doesn't like helping
• 29:44
  the raid team getting the getting the gear and the other
• 29:47
  gear is something is secondary to what I'm able to do with the
• 29:52
  class. And so I think I really do want
• 29:57
  to push that like people should be playing what works for them
• 30:02
  and what allows them to bring the best further class.
• 30:06
  It is, sorry not further class but further for themselves and
• 30:11
  bringing your best means that you're bringing your best to
• 30:13
  your team. Like.
• 30:15
  Yes. It's it's one thing that oh,
• 30:20
  we've got a lot of mail. A, it's another thing that.
• 30:23
  Yes, we've got a lot of mail wearers. yes, but I took the
• 30:29
  shaman from 350. I think I was like, 350
• 30:34
  something when I rated with you guys because I had I had
• 30:39
  literally levelled that character And then the next week
• 30:45
  brought it into raid so it was grossly under geared. and it had
• 30:53
  performed at the same level as a character that I had spent two
• 30:58
  weeks pre-raid gearing and I really cannot like, I've talked
• 31:05
  about this so many times, but just to see it laid out like
• 31:08
  that is just Yeah, it just haven't laid Bears, so crazy.
• 31:16
  Yeah, so that was that was basically one week, then, of
• 31:23
  course, I was away on vacation Christmas holidays, I got snowed
• 31:28
  in. So I had, I had the really sad
• 31:31
  Christmas at home at home alone. And then the day after
• 31:37
  Christmas, I got to travel and spend time with my loved ones.
• 31:40
  So it was all good at the, at the end.
• 31:45
  And so I missed two weeks worth of like Goering is all my team.
• 31:48
  It's like grossly out here to me but when the game is just so
• 31:54
  much fun, the game is just so much fun.
• 31:56
  So like putting in a lot of time with my like last bit of time
• 32:02
  back before going back to work, I jumped that item level so much
• 32:06
  and I just had so much fun playing with like I did three
• 32:12
  different teams eating with three different teams rating
• 32:15
  with you guys, riding with my team rating with Allie and her
• 32:21
  team, right? Reading with no I did ride with
• 32:26
  you because I just watched him stream.
• 32:32
  It's the game is in such a good state.
• 32:35
  So like yeah, like this weekend, I finally got around to be like,
• 32:39
  oh, wow. My renowned levels are in like
• 32:41
  single digits. I got to do something about that
• 32:44
  but I went around and did Sojourner.
• 32:48
  I did the Lore Master of dragon Isles because all those quests
• 32:54
  give you wrap, give you wrap and because my warlock had hit Level
• 32:59
  10, I was getting double The renowned the rep to get those
• 33:04
  Renown points. So, now my Shaman is at pretty
• 33:08
  good like double digits, like 15 or higher with a lot of the
• 33:13
  covenants, 20 with Val drakon. Mmm.
• 33:17
  But there are people who have already capped out there
• 33:20
  renounce, yes. Several in our Discord who have
• 33:28
  talked about how they have been getting basically. the
• 33:32
  equivalent of like Paragon chest out of the renowned system and
• 33:38
  have been sharing the goodies that they've been getting out of
• 33:41
  it and making me supremely jealous that I've had, you know,
• 33:46
  I've had time split between multiple characters and and
• 33:49
  haven't haven't gone through and cleared out all the world quests
• 33:54
  or you know, gotten the Gotten the reputation Ritz that like
• 34:02
  the week-long, the seven-day rep Buffs and I haven't taken
• 34:07
  advantage of the Darkmoon Faire Buffs and all that kind of
• 34:10
  stuff. So I'm just sitting back on on
• 34:12
  rank 25 drakon Accord reputation, and I'm okay with
• 34:17
  that. I'm okay with that.
• 34:19
  It's fine. I'm not chasing rep because
• 34:23
  because I want that to be something that I can work on for
• 34:27
  further. Intricate.
• 34:28
  I'm like, I'm not in a rush, to get to get that because I know
• 34:33
  that if I go and do the world quest world tours every every
• 34:38
  time they reset and go through and push myself way too hard to
• 34:45
  to push reputations is fast as I can.
• 34:50
  That I will burn myself out on it, and I won't enjoy playing
• 34:53
  the game in the open world. So instead I'm doing a lot of
• 34:56
  like flying around and And gathering on my of ochre and
• 34:59
  doing with a plus and rating. And in crafting is crafting.
• 35:06
  His son is also just like a huge part of the game that that like
• 35:10
  I've been into graphing before but not in the way that I'm into
• 35:13
  it right now. These are of ochre crafter or
• 35:16
  no, my Booker is my gatherer because they have a they have a
• 35:20
  perception bonus. Like, one of the racial bonuses
• 35:25
  is a bonus to perception so it helps To have double gathering
• 35:30
  on on a poker. But basically I'm just funneling
• 35:37
  funneling, the materials that I gather into gold, which I'm then
• 35:40
  taking to my Crafters to, to buy materials that I need at low
• 35:47
  points. Like, selling High, while I can
• 35:51
  waiting until prices drop to get there to get materials off the
• 35:55
  action house, for my crafters and Doing my crafting their
• 36:00
  okay. Well I guess that kind of falls
• 36:02
  into our first little bit of news which we can finally get
• 36:05
  around to like you know yes 35 minutes into the show over
• 36:10
  finally getting to the first bit of news.
• 36:13
  No, but first bit of news that we're going to be talking about
• 36:17
  is its kind of news but more just talking about work, orders
• 36:24
  and crafting and We okay backing up just to step here.
• 36:33
  One of the developers drow went on the DNA forms and put in a
• 36:41
  few words about the state of work orders and how the
• 36:47
  developer team feels that they are doing with or just how the
• 36:54
  work order system in general. Is functioning and how it
• 36:56
  relates to crafting system overall and drag inflate. and, A
• 37:05
  lot of a lot of discourse has cropped up over the last couple
• 37:10
  of weeks about The Crafting system about work orders in
• 37:13
  particular about whether or not the system has failed or
• 37:16
  succeeded. And I think I think the general
• 37:20
  consensus is that for the most part, the the changes that have
• 37:26
  been made to the crafting system are very good, but there's a lot
• 37:30
  of frustrations with with the system overall and with the with
• 37:34
  the work order system. Um, in particular, but just to
• 37:39
  go through a couple of the notes from drowse post, they feel like
• 37:46
  the core goal of having Crafters be able to make gear at all
• 37:54
  levels. Is successful like it.
• 37:59
  They have data on there and to show that Crafters are able to
• 38:04
  provide to provide gear at all levels of play which is not
• 38:11
  something that they've not necessarily that they haven't
• 38:16
  like crafting. His never been in a position to
• 38:18
  provide gear, that's not what they're saying, they're just
• 38:21
  saying that now it's a lot more robust, they've found SS in
• 38:28
  providing. A new way for crafters and
• 38:31
  customers to interact. That is like inherently social
• 38:37
  notably that there's there's, you know, actual like more more
• 38:44
  social interactions happening in trade chat and in more more
• 38:50
  trading of goods happening A few of the few of the things that
• 39:05
  they're kind of looking at. With this and things that they
• 39:11
  feel like they want to improve our helping helping to connect
• 39:19
  customers with Crafters a little bit more easily and they want to
• 39:25
  help in supporting social interactions in better ways.
• 39:33
  So one of the things that that I feel like is kind of putting the
• 39:40
  work order system on its back foot personally, is that it
• 39:45
  feels like work orders, like we're just starved for work
• 39:48
  orders, like it's very much famine.
• 39:52
  Like there's not much Feast, even though, even though they
• 39:56
  have data to show that there are lots of work orders going
• 39:58
  through. If you go and open up, any
• 40:04
  Crafters unless you're, unless I think inscription is the one
• 40:08
  where there's like, regularly public orders up and available
• 40:12
  for people to go in, at least, in the first couple of weeks
• 40:15
  that was the case. But everyone else is pretty
• 40:17
  much. Like you have to be sitting on
• 40:20
  the public board all day in order to see one and the chance
• 40:26
  of actually getting it is pretty slim, but I like I feel like
• 40:32
  that as like a point of contention is that like people
• 40:37
  feel like the the public order should be something that's a
• 40:41
  little bit more upfront and accessible but there is
• 40:49
  something to to kind of like the social aspect of it, where
• 40:53
  there's a like the the personal orders and the gold orders is a
• 41:00
  way that you're able to take to get to get much more specific in
• 41:07
  what you're looking for. Where's the public order is
• 41:10
  meant to be something that's very quick and they're supposed
• 41:13
  to be like a very fast turnaround.
• 41:17
  So I think, I think, you know, having the discussion of like
• 41:23
  what what can they do to improve?
• 41:26
  The, to improve the connections between customers and, and the
• 41:32
  Crafters is really the best way to improve the system.
• 41:39
  But I don't, I don't really know how they can do that Beyond.
• 41:44
  You know what? They already have so many What
• 41:48
  do you think of this? Like, what do you think is the
• 41:52
  way to improve this or do you have thoughts on how they can
• 41:55
  improve the social interactions? Well, I think that as we're
• 42:03
  moving into this new phase where there's going to be like, for
• 42:09
  me, I was spending all my orders and medals on like improving my
• 42:13
  professional gear. So when they talk about like,
• 42:14
  hey now that people are going to have like extra tails around,
• 42:18
  right? Like that's basically where I'm
• 42:20
  going to be though. Also I've had two characters
• 42:23
  that I've been like working on professional gear before I write
• 42:27
  because I I've done alt and reset my progress and I've seen
• 42:32
  a few of the public work orders, but yeah, you're right.
• 42:36
  It's like if you see it, you're like oh my goodness, there's
• 42:38
  something. Okay, grab up, right?
• 42:41
  But the other part of this is that there are people who are
• 42:44
  going to be no longer needing to get Experience or like knowledge
• 42:50
  anymore. And they're not going to be as
• 42:53
  gun ho for those work orders. So there, we're not quite at the
• 42:57
  actual end game of this, and I can understand why, there's a
• 43:01
  bit more of a wait-and-see on on this than like, oh, we've got
• 43:06
  some things, what we're going to be putting in in the next
• 43:08
  weekend and such because they have been making some
• 43:11
  adjustments that have been affecting the economy, Titan
• 43:15
  orbs, right were very To come by and nowadays, put in a hotfix
• 43:20
  that is in our patch note that they drop from more places, more
• 43:25
  enemies and more frequently the initial craziness of like, oh, I
• 43:32
  could sell awakened. Whatever Firewater.
• 43:37
  You name it for, like thousands of gold.
• 43:39
  Well, know that now, people have gotten their Gathering up to the
• 43:42
  point where they're getting way more of it at putting such a
• 43:46
  downward pressure that You can't, you don't get thousands,
• 43:50
  you get hundreds, if you get hundreds for though.
• 43:53
  So, I think right now professions are becoming far
• 43:57
  more accessible the people who were at the high end or reaching
• 44:02
  the point where they're going to be far more selective.
• 44:04
  And that means that the other people who are trying to like
• 44:07
  come up behind them aren't going to have as much competition on
• 44:10
  the crafting end. I'm hoping that there's going to
• 44:15
  be some adjustments without the me.
• 44:17
  Even having to do stuff. So I'm happy about that.
• 44:20
  I don't think that you need to jump on on it right away.
• 44:25
  I know some people are very upset about the people who are
• 44:32
  in trade chat be like, hey, I can do this, and I've got this
• 44:36
  percentage chance to get inspiration, but as somebody
• 44:42
  who's like one of those OG World of Warcraft players, that's what
• 44:45
  CH H hat was about. Trade chat, wasn't about, like,
• 44:49
  putting a link to a website so you can get your illegal boost
• 44:53
  and having them. You'd everybody trained to treat
• 44:55
  chat. Wasn't about like people putting
• 44:58
  some crude word and whatever tooltip they could put put in
• 45:01
  front of it or behind it, right? Tre chat was actually about
• 45:06
  services and stuff and that's back again and I'm really happy
• 45:10
  for that. for the people who are Not wanting to do that to engage
• 45:17
  in the system. Because for so long professions
• 45:23
  have been so siloed that you didn't have the interaction.
• 45:30
  I know it's a bit of a disjointed kind of ice bath.
• 45:36
  Sort of feeling like, oh, I got to talk to people in this MMO.
• 45:40
  Like there are people who I don't want to talk to you in the
• 45:43
  same of. Oh I get it.
• 45:45
  Um but I like I'm glad for that social interaction.
• 45:49
  I'm not sure. sure that I'm the right person to to make the
• 45:53
  claim that it should be adjusted that they should have some sort
• 45:56
  of like system that allows you to go through a directory and be
• 46:02
  like, I'm going to commission you because you have this much
• 46:05
  inspiration in your skill. Is this and I don't want to deal
• 46:07
  with anybody who's less than that.
• 46:09
  Like, I think that isn't the way to go.
• 46:16
  And there are people who are like, I want this entire system
• 46:18
  gone and I just want to go back to the auction house system, and
• 46:20
  I definitely don't want that because I genuinely love This
• 46:27
  system to continue beyond dragonflight.
• 46:29
  And so, a little bit of roughness at the beginning of
• 46:32
  dragon fight. I will gladly accept.
• 46:38
  Yeah, like you mentioned, you mentioned people like
• 46:42
  advertising their inspiration levels.
• 46:46
  Another, another like issue that has been raised with, with
• 46:52
  regard to the crafting system. And, you know, the how how like
• 46:57
  inspiration kind of fits into this is that for a lot of the,
• 47:02
  the like super high in craft so weird.
• 47:04
  Talking, the ones that you have to, you have to like get the the
• 47:07
  raid material in order to infuse that that the infusions.
• 47:11
  If you will, you you are infusing this gear and getting
• 47:17
  trying to get up to like the the Mythic item level Gear with with
• 47:24
  the infusions, through this crafting system.
• 47:28
  And one of the only ways that you can do that is at a certain
• 47:33
  point. In a certain level of certain
• 47:37
  level of inspiration. Because there are there are
• 47:40
  skill points. Like there's a maximum number of
• 47:42
  skill points that you can get for a particular craft.
• 47:45
  One of one of our, one of our friends, one of the Raiders on,
• 47:52
  get your group together was talking about this with me the
• 47:55
  other day and laid the math out for me quite neatly.
• 48:00
  So with the example of the Until Lariat based of guilty of 315
• 48:07
  plus 15 for a for a missive to get the correct steps that you
• 48:12
  want and +30 difficulty for a primal and fusion puts the
• 48:19
  difficulty for a four or five Elemental area at 360.
• 48:26
  And then for a item level 14 would bump that up to 380 and
• 48:32
  the max skill that you can have. Is 262, which means you're at a
• 48:37
  deficit. You're at a deficit of like just
• 48:42
  under 120 skill, which means you are dependent on at a certain
• 48:50
  point. You're dependent on that
• 48:54
  inspiration in order to get the cover the cap.
• 48:57
  Yeah. So there's there's a little bit
• 49:01
  more discussion around that and the reason that I wanted to
• 49:03
  bring that up, Up is because when they were pitching, the
• 49:08
  idea of this crafting system, the the overhaul to the crafting
• 49:12
  system, they're putting in place for this.
• 49:14
  One of the, one of the main concerns whenever we saw
• 49:17
  inspiration. Was that?
• 49:22
  Okay. Well, is there ever going to be
• 49:24
  a point which we won't need inspiration?
• 49:28
  Or is there like to put it a different way?
• 49:31
  Will we always be dependent on inspiration like high levels of
• 49:35
  inspiration in order to get crafts done?
• 49:38
  And I remember one of the devs saying That know, eventually you
• 49:46
  won't need inspiration. That inspiration was meant to be
• 49:50
  something early on, to be able to boost people to get a chance
• 49:56
  at getting that higher item level proc out of a out of a
• 50:00
  particular craft or like higher higher.
• 50:05
  Like higher rank even just within like one of the the
• 50:09
  profession materials that are crafted to be able to get access
• 50:14
  to the high-end stuff without without having the resources
• 50:19
  bumped into it. But from the math that we see,
• 50:22
  very clearly laid out in this, it is, it is a requirement to
• 50:26
  have that inspiration in order to get to those to those
• 50:31
  high-end crafts at a certain point.
• 50:33
  So, I feel like I feel like that's counter to what initially
• 50:39
  was pitched and the problem I have here is that you have
• 50:47
  reference the statement. And I don't think I could ask
• 50:50
  you to point out where this statement is.
• 50:52
  But that would mean that it's very hard for me to speak in
• 50:57
  reference to us because my immediate question would be at
• 51:01
  what point does inspiration no longer be Nothing because if it
• 51:05
  becomes within the first tier that inspiration is no longer
• 51:10
  required. What the hell's the point of
• 51:12
  inspiration going into Season 2 Season 3, unless they add in
• 51:16
  recipes that then require inspiration.
• 51:18
  At which point we're back here again.
• 51:20
  Yeah, at what point? Should people be able to
• 51:27
  guarantee Mythic level gear at higher than some of the Mythic
• 51:32
  raid bosses drop? Because I think question first
• 51:38
  raid, right? Like, it's supposed to be
• 51:39
  competitive, but, like, some RNG is immediately bad because it
• 51:46
  takes you a couple of attempts to get that inspiration to proc.
• 51:51
  Somebody gets like, let's say they have 40% chance.
• 51:55
  I love getting that proc to push it to the top level, which means
• 51:59
  you could get lucky and get it on the initial craft.
• 52:02
  You might need to take three or four times of re-crafting it if
• 52:07
  you can build it, and we're on week, Three because of vacation
• 52:15
  week 5 in, if people are going really hard at it.
• 52:20
  Five weeks into the season, guaranteeing.
• 52:25
  The best in slot because people who are after this are talking
• 52:29
  about stuff like the lariat best in slot gear.
• 52:33
  Right. How easily should that be
• 52:38
  attained? It's a good question.
• 52:42
  It's a good question. Is any RNG immediately bad?
• 52:48
  I don't think it's immediately bad.
• 52:53
  No. Okay so inspiration being the
• 52:57
  RNG of getting to that that level and the math of like okay
• 53:04
  you can get this close to getting a rank for well what's
• 53:08
  rank for in terms of item level. 4:18 for a rank 5, once rank for
• 53:16
  and is that acceptable, as a guarantee for how much of the
• 53:20
  player base like what percentage of the player base is required
• 53:25
  to have a rank 5 this quickly in there in the in the season like
• 53:33
  those are the questions I would ask and it's not like we don't
• 53:36
  have Future patches coming quite quickly, that will improve, that
• 53:43
  should have improved gear because crafting gear is a thing
• 53:48
  and that can have more stats. So, even if it is unachievable
• 53:52
  at this point in time, there's nothing to say that it won't
• 53:56
  that it won't be achievable in 10, .07 in 10.05, I'm going to
• 54:02
  doubt that because a lot of that's on the PTR and we
• 54:05
  probably would have seen that by now, right?
• 54:08
  Meh. The metals that are becoming
• 54:11
  more and more available means, hey, the crafter can try and do
• 54:15
  the reforge. In fact, Speaking to another
• 54:19
  person on this. They were talking about the what
• 54:21
  he was calling the inspiration meta where people would take
• 54:26
  instead of getting ranked 3 stuff, maybe like Rank 3 stuff
• 54:30
  is too expensive. Get the rank, 3 regret, the rank
• 54:33
  to materials and then go for the inspiration.
• 54:38
  So in this way, a rank 3 is pretty much a story with the
• 54:43
  rank 3 materials because materials only go up to rank 3.
• 54:46
  Getting the highest level is pretty much guaranteed, but
• 54:50
  people are still going for inspiration because the cost
• 54:56
  It's cheaper to go for the inspiration cost so it becomes
• 55:00
  abusable at that level. So yeah, we've got both of these
• 55:03
  in the same system, two ways of running through.
• 55:07
  It should inspiration be useless.
• 55:09
  Should inspiration be abusive. They're both existing relative
• 55:14
  to each other in the system. So, I don't, I don't think that
• 55:17
  you can cherry pick one, like, one area of it.
• 55:21
  Where inspiration is needed and ignore the part where
• 55:24
  inspiration is Chablis lucrative.
• 55:27
  Yeah, it's got It's a valid stat in points, right?
• 55:32
  And it is required. If you are after The Very Best
• 55:36
  of the Best, you need a bit of luck to get the very best of the
• 55:39
  best. I'm okay with that.
• 55:43
  Yeah, I think I think at the end of the day, I am too.
• 55:47
  It's just like having Having my understanding of what the system
• 55:55
  was at least initially being designed for.
• 56:00
  That's that was like, my only point of concern was like, hey,
• 56:04
  you you said, you said this really need be moving, I don't
• 56:08
  who said that and get and get that quote.
• 56:11
  Okay, I'll do some research. I cannot speak to us to a
• 56:18
  remembered some statement that a developer I may have said
• 56:23
  without the context, they said it or further information
• 56:28
  because sometimes sure people will say it off.
• 56:31
  People will say stuff off. Cuff, right?
• 56:38
  And then it will develop that statement may have been made way
• 56:42
  in the alpha and they're allowed to change their mind.
• 56:45
  Yeah. And maybe they should have said
• 56:46
  something afterwards but that's a different conversation than if
• 56:49
  he had if that call that statement had been made
• 56:52
  yesterday and it's like the math that's in the live game since
• 56:56
  you were lying. No, yes, it like, this is this
• 56:58
  is a conversation different. This is a conversation that was
• 57:01
  had many, many moons ago so so it's like even that creations
• 57:06
  based on when the statement was said, even if the statement is
• 57:09
  exactly as you've laid it out to be, yeah, um, Beyond that
• 57:16
  though. With the work orders.
• 57:22
  I am seeing that them. Really needing to boost.
• 57:29
  How many work orders are out there for people.
• 57:32
  Because the meta that people had, who really wanted to push
• 57:36
  was, get on your alt, send a personal order to yourself, so
• 57:39
  that you can get those skill points.
• 57:41
  And they have already, and they've already made changes
• 57:46
  where you have those Hidden Masters that you get daily
• 57:49
  quests to like, get the skill points, the drop rate of like
• 57:56
  little items. That will give you a little bit
• 57:57
  of knowledge and skill. I think they changed overnight.
• 58:01
  Like I was going around - I was like, whoa.
• 58:04
  They're just like, dropping like candy there.
• 58:06
  There was a point where I was talking with somebody and they
• 58:09
  were talking about these ceilings or traps.
• 58:13
  Where if you went into a particular specialization, you
• 58:18
  wouldn't get enough skill to cap out the other, the other three.
• 58:22
  So you have to make sure that like, when you were in chanting,
• 58:25
  you went into Rods and bruises and such.
• 58:28
  Because if you didn't do that in the first two, you wouldn't have
• 58:31
  enough to get the third one and I don't believe that to be the
• 58:34
  case. In fact, now we are seeing
• 58:39
  hotfix and this is going to be something that was in our notes
• 58:42
  later. But we're seeing a hotfix where
• 58:44
  they're changing how quickly you get into those spots
• 58:48
  specializations. So for specialization that had a
• 58:51
  sort of rather for a profession that had three separate
• 58:54
  specializations. Instead of you needing to hit
• 58:57
  100 to get into that last one, you have to hit 75.
• 59:01
  So, that means that at 25, you get your first specialization at
• 59:04
  50, you get your second and at 75, you get your third for ones
• 59:09
  that required for different. Specializations 75 is still the
• 59:14
  cap, but they've just squished it again.
• 59:16
  So 25 50, 60 and 75, which means you're going to be able to get
• 59:23
  in all those specializations, you're not going to.
• 59:26
  Be completely blocked out. But for the people who were
• 59:32
  doing, as you said, where they were capping out the perfect
• 59:36
  skill by going, like, let's say I'm making an elemental area.
• 59:40
  So, I want to be like amazing skill in necks and all of the
• 59:46
  branches that lead to that, to make sure I have all the skill
• 59:49
  to make that pattern, right? They are incredibly specialized.
• 59:55
  They have a very good chance of doing it, and they were getting
• 59:59
  a large reward for for making, even the rank for and then
• 1:00:04
  re-crafting into it, right? And as the expansion goes on,
• 1:00:09
  right, that there are more people who can do it.
• 1:00:13
  It doesn't command as big a price because more people have
• 1:00:17
  have already bought it and with these artists and metals
• 1:00:22
  becoming more frequent, the ability to To do the re-crafting
• 1:00:26
  won't be as prohibitive as it has been in the past so this
• 1:00:30
  becomes less a sticking point for people.
• 1:00:32
  So I again, I guess that goes back to what I was saying
• 1:00:34
  earlier, where I think we're still in Growing Pains of it
• 1:00:37
  where they don't need to quickly adjust.
• 1:00:39
  Yeah. Yeah, but they did say that drow
• 1:00:45
  did say that they are looking at improvements that they would
• 1:00:49
  like to make. And they didn't have any
• 1:00:51
  specifics for for us in the post, but I'm sure I'm sure if
• 1:00:56
  there are any additional changes coming in the 10.5 PTR and we've
• 1:01:01
  already seen some things, I think pop up on the 10.5 BTR,
• 1:01:06
  but even beyond that going into 10.7 and 10.1 even Probably see
• 1:01:11
  more changes for the crafting system overall.
• 1:01:16
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• 1:01:34
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• 1:01:37
  stuff to you in this year. now, with that said, We were just
• 1:01:44
  talking about stuff coming in the future.
• 1:01:46
  Ten point. 0.5 has received its first update since the team has
• 1:01:51
  come back in the new year and one of the things that I just
• 1:01:56
  talked about that chick, those changes to when you unlock
• 1:02:00
  specializations, that's in the ten point 0.5 updates that we
• 1:02:04
  saw beyond that we are seeing the Mage Tower return.
• 1:02:13
  You're okay. All right.
• 1:02:15
  You're you seem hyped, but I immediately asked the question,
• 1:02:18
  how much of the Mage Tower? Did you do the last time?
• 1:02:20
  It was available? Yes, yes.
• 1:02:25
  I did. The Mage Tower the last time it
• 1:02:27
  was I didn't do the Mage Tower. Last time was available.
• 1:02:30
  That's why I'm excited that it's coming back because I kicked
• 1:02:34
  myself for not doing it last time.
• 1:02:38
  I'm I'm little bit like, curious, because one thing I
• 1:02:45
  tweeted out and I really hope blizzard if you listening to me,
• 1:02:50
  This is my New Year's wish here now to the Met Towers coming
• 1:02:54
  back, can we get something for a volkers?
• 1:02:56
  Like maybe some nice little specializations for the drakh
• 1:03:01
  there. If you can do the challenge with
• 1:03:04
  a poker, like some different armor customization or
• 1:03:07
  something, you know, you know, and it's just saying right that
• 1:03:11
  would Amaze salary is going to be back.
• 1:03:13
  Right. I think that this is cool for
• 1:03:18
  not only people who are challenging it because, you
• 1:03:23
  know, there was a lot of people who went and got their tomes.
• 1:03:28
  There was a couple of people who got other people to get their
• 1:03:31
  tomes and then got their camps suspended.
• 1:03:34
  Don't do that friends. Please don't do that.
• 1:03:36
  No, I can't shake please, but there were some people who like
• 1:03:41
  me. Did the lucrative thing and got
• 1:03:46
  gems and stuff together for those who were making this
• 1:03:50
  attempt. So I think this is going to be
• 1:03:53
  cool. I would love if they added some
• 1:03:56
  new rewards for, you know, specs that didn't have rewards like
• 1:04:01
  the Evoque errs, for preservation, and Devastation
• 1:04:06
  and also because a lot of these classes have changed, they have
• 1:04:11
  these new talent trees, it could be be easier for a lot of people
• 1:04:14
  who struggled on this to do it now.
• 1:04:17
  So definitely worth an attempt. And for those who want to make
• 1:04:22
  some money, making gems and stuff, for people who are really
• 1:04:24
  into professions the auction house, and professions have
• 1:04:29
  never been more alive. And this is a great way to use
• 1:04:32
  those old professions. Beyond that.
• 1:04:36
  We're also saw some updates for group loot.
• 1:04:41
  Now group Loot on 10.05. They're looking at fixing some
• 1:04:46
  systemic issues that people have been noting.
• 1:04:50
  One being that in some rare cases raids would get less loot
• 1:04:57
  than they were supposed to, which is real said, I hope that
• 1:05:04
  I would have wished that that got fixed before ten point 0.5.
• 1:05:09
  At hopefully, ten point 0.5 is is coming quickly.
• 1:05:14
  The other thing is that they're kind of closing some loopholes
• 1:05:19
  in the rolling, so people who were getting set tokens, you
• 1:05:23
  could understand unconditionally need onset tokens, whether you
• 1:05:27
  had the piece or not, that is getting changed.
• 1:05:31
  So if you have the subsequent gear from it, or you have the
• 1:05:35
  token, you won't get duplicates or and you won't be able to need
• 1:05:39
  on them, right? I think that's important.
• 1:05:44
  The other one is that you can no longer need on professional
• 1:05:49
  recipes if you've already learned them.
• 1:05:51
  That seemed really silly because these things are Bo bind on
• 1:05:56
  equip. So it's not like you could pick
• 1:05:58
  it up and put it on the auction house or bind on pickup instead
• 1:06:02
  of buying out a clip because banana clip would let you sell
• 1:06:05
  it on the auction house. Yeah, sorry you're right.
• 1:06:09
  And then one-handed weapons are also no longer able to be
• 1:06:16
  unconditionally rolled for. This is very good as a
• 1:06:20
  Enhancement Shaman, I've seen this a lot.
• 1:06:23
  The unconditional need means that I would get priority over
• 1:06:26
  somebody who was putting it in as a greed roll, right area,
• 1:06:32
  where the unconditional need means that like I am not sure
• 1:06:37
  and This might be something that people might need to suss out,
• 1:06:39
  but I'm not sure if I hit a need on an unconditional need, if I'm
• 1:06:44
  at the same priority as somebody who actually uses those stats.
• 1:06:47
  So I roll need on something that's intellect because they'll
• 1:06:50
  do the the Manny not being a jerk and rolling need on a
• 1:06:54
  strength weapon but many roles need on something that's
• 1:06:56
  intellect and I don't get the not my specialization need role,
• 1:07:04
  which goes as a lower priority than somebody.
• 1:07:07
  Who Actually has that specialization that would need
• 1:07:10
  an intellect one-handed weapon and that would feel bad to me.
• 1:07:16
  The last one also includes two handed weapons for warriors that
• 1:07:23
  are in Fury loot spec because Fury with their tied, in grip,
• 1:07:28
  can use those as one-handed weapons.
• 1:07:30
  So they were getting put into this loot Rule and being able to
• 1:07:35
  get the unconditional lead on two-handed weapons.
• 1:07:39
  Now for that last one, in ten point, 0.5, the system will now
• 1:07:44
  thoroughly identify if you can dual wield.
• 1:07:47
  The weapon in question. Based on your loot spec if you
• 1:07:51
  can and you've already acquired two versions of it.
• 1:07:59
  That are at least as powerful as a verb, as what's being rolled
• 1:08:02
  for you cannot need them, right? Because they're one-handed
• 1:08:05
  weapons as an enhancement Ramen. I can have 22 of the weapons or
• 1:08:09
  as a road. I can have two of the weapons so
• 1:08:12
  on, so on. So it does say like hey you've
• 1:08:14
  only got one of them. Sure.
• 1:08:15
  You can get the second one, it might be a best in slot that you
• 1:08:17
  need to. You need to have those for And
• 1:08:22
  then, the last thing is, we saw a tweet and it looks like ten
• 1:08:28
  point 0.7 has already been detected on the central
• 1:08:33
  distribution Network, which means they're already working on
• 1:08:37
  the next thing behind this. And it's already in a testable
• 1:08:42
  build that they're testing internally.
• 1:08:44
  So man, that means what 10 point 0.5, what do you want to guess
• 1:08:49
  when that's going to come out? Out.
• 1:08:54
  Hmm, I was about to say if I was a betting woman.
• 1:08:57
  No, I am not gonna make a bet on it, but I would say, I would
• 1:09:04
  say, possibly at the earliest end of the month, if not early,
• 1:09:10
  February, 44, when we see ten point 0.5 is gonna be good, I
• 1:09:18
  guess go out the 24th 24, you getting specific with it.
• 1:09:23
  Okay, two weeks from now. I, I would suggest I would
• 1:09:29
  suspect that with the could be a 31st, but with the Traders post,
• 1:09:38
  that becomes active, The first of each month, they would want
• 1:09:45
  it to come out. Close to the beginning of the
• 1:09:49
  month. So the 31st is a Tuesday.
• 1:09:51
  I'm going to revise my guest to the 31st and then the Traders
• 1:09:56
  post would open the next day. And in Europe, it would open the
• 1:10:00
  day off because they have it, open at midnight ish, right?
• 1:10:03
  So that would work. And then China is currently in a
• 1:10:07
  very sticky situation where it's, it may not matter if it
• 1:10:13
  opens at all, but that is a different news story.
• 1:10:17
  Yeah. Um, the last thing is that these
• 1:10:25
  are not the only changes that are coming to group loot.
• 1:10:29
  We actually have some hot fixes and I'm going to let you take
• 1:10:33
  that. We have had several hotfixes
• 1:10:38
  come in over the last over the last couple of weeks, but they
• 1:10:44
  did make some hot fixes to group loot, first of which, as they
• 1:10:49
  fix some situations, where players could win need rolls on
• 1:10:52
  duplicate items in Single roll session when it should not have
• 1:10:56
  been possible. So the way that it works is if
• 1:11:00
  duplicate items come up, you can roll once or you can you can
• 1:11:07
  roll while. I mean, the end of the
• 1:11:10
  individual item but there were times in which one need role
• 1:11:13
  would go through and then you could win the second one as well
• 1:11:18
  and it would go to you and not count as a you've already won
• 1:11:22
  that piece because it's supposed to say, You've already won this
• 1:11:24
  piece, you can't get it again. So that has been that has been
• 1:11:32
  changed rectified to where you can't get duplicate items in one
• 1:11:37
  session. And they also have been Going to
• 1:11:46
  re say that that this is already been working as intended for
• 1:11:52
  most items, but now should include items such as to your
• 1:11:56
  tokens and weapons. So no double-dipping on getting
• 1:12:02
  getting duplicate weapons from a single bus, kill some other.
• 1:12:07
  Some other hotfixes they came out with they hotfix dragon
• 1:12:12
  writing specifically The Dragon Riders cultivation, which is
• 1:12:17
  what what gives you bonus bonus Vigor for for Gathering items.
• 1:12:26
  While while you're out and about they increased the amount to 400
• 1:12:35
  percent up from 10 percent and reduce the duration to 3 seconds
• 1:12:42
  from 10 seconds. So it's Kind of kind of makes it
• 1:12:47
  a little bit better. That we're like the effect is
• 1:12:50
  like roughly the same but just in a very condensed time period
• 1:12:58
  where where you're not you're not like over writing like
• 1:13:04
  applications of it with like jumping from node to node and
• 1:13:08
  not being able to get like the full effect that wasn't the
• 1:13:11
  issue, right? It's a 10 percent increase on
• 1:13:13
  whatever your Your your regeneration rate was so initial
• 1:13:20
  part of flying before you get to like, you know, the blue glow
• 1:13:23
  around you and you're actually getting your Vigor restored,
• 1:13:26
  right? Your regeneration rate is zero.
• 1:13:28
  You're flying at not enough speed.
• 1:13:31
  So you either stay on the ground for 10 seconds to actually get
• 1:13:33
  the full benefit of this, right? Or you somehow get to that blue
• 1:13:39
  flying fast enough to like get part of it, but there's still a
• 1:13:42
  section where you would be wasting it.
• 1:13:44
  If you were just jumping from node to node.
• 1:13:46
  Now, the best way of doing it is mine your node, wait, three
• 1:13:51
  seconds, and get all of that Vigor back and then go on your
• 1:13:55
  way. So it doesn't have that conflict
• 1:13:57
  anymore. It takes two seconds to mount
• 1:14:00
  onto your, your, your dragon. So you only really have to wait
• 1:14:05
  one second, but there were people who have like, ran to the
• 1:14:10
  like Farm wall-mounted. So they don't actually have to
• 1:14:14
  Mount again, right? Yeah.
• 1:14:16
  Which, you know, it kind of balances itself out, I guess in
• 1:14:21
  a weird roundabout way. But for those of us that didn't
• 1:14:24
  go directly for those nodes we can Rejoice Honestly though, for
• 1:14:30
  people who want good information on how to like maximize farming
• 1:14:37
  because Miss bacon bits said, don't go for this.
• 1:14:40
  It's a trap right? And part of it is because of The
• 1:14:44
  way it, it worked before, but check out our episode from last
• 1:14:51
  month, where we did go through this, because she gave so much
• 1:14:55
  good information and that is bringing home the bacon and
• 1:14:59
  that's episode 243. Definitely worth to listen, but
• 1:15:06
  more hotfixes have come through, we had a lot of really targeted,
• 1:15:13
  class Buffs come in, we saw a Demon Hunter, the the hunt
• 1:15:20
  damage changed a little bit to where the damage over time
• 1:15:25
  effect. No longer deals additional take
• 1:15:27
  damage on a vacation. But the full duration of the
• 1:15:31
  damage was Each Vengeance. Got some got some like General
• 1:15:37
  Buffs Farrell got a three percent damage buff Devastation
• 1:15:44
  of ochre. Got some Buffs very like
• 1:15:47
  specific Buffs like feral Druid is probably like the only one
• 1:15:50
  that just got like a general like everything's getting a
• 1:15:54
  three percent buff but everyone else pretty much got like some
• 1:15:57
  very specific, very targeted Buffs.
• 1:16:02
  Adding fire and frost Mage. Both got Buffs that were maybe
• 1:16:08
  maybe unwarranted a little bit, maybe a little bit on warranted
• 1:16:13
  know. They were they were warranted
• 1:16:17
  but Devastation of ochre God, right?
• 1:16:21
  Because they are specific Buffs to specific abilities.
• 1:16:25
  It means that overall effect isn't as pronounced, so like
• 1:16:28
  when you're looking at Farrell's getting a three percent overall
• 1:16:31
  buff That it's like yeah or God or 3%, buff.
• 1:16:34
  But when you're looking at a single move, from a particular
• 1:16:39
  spec, getting the buff, right? Like, even if it's something
• 1:16:41
  like, like you're talking about major, so flamestrike, getting a
• 1:16:45
  15% buff means, nothing in their single Target, living bomb,
• 1:16:50
  getting a 25% buff means. Nothing in their single Target.
• 1:16:53
  They're making fire better at AOE.
• 1:16:57
  Yeah, they're single Turtle stays the same.
• 1:16:59
  Yeah, on the other hand, Frost Got a 40% damage.
• 1:17:05
  Increase to re of frost which as as someone in my guild pointed
• 1:17:11
  out earlier, could could spell some issues in PvP, but there
• 1:17:20
  are people that know, way more about PVP and PVP balance and
• 1:17:25
  then I do. So I don't, I don't know that I
• 1:17:28
  would necessarily be able to be able to speak on that.
• 1:17:32
  That intelligently. But there are many people out
• 1:17:36
  there who can and you should definitely listen to them if
• 1:17:39
  you're into PVP, but yeah. Most most of the most of the,
• 1:17:46
  the bus that came through, with the exception of that, that
• 1:17:50
  feral Druid buff are very, very targeted specific Buffs.
• 1:17:59
  I do want to point out two particular specs that got Buffs.
• 1:18:06
  One is actually a Nerf. The only class that got a Nerf
• 1:18:15
  was outlawed Rogue where they've reduced Precision, Cuts bonus to
• 1:18:21
  Blade Fury damage per Target below.
• 1:18:24
  Its maximum went from 2% to 3% and this is because in the
• 1:18:30
  notes, they were saying that the Mythic plus meta.
• 1:18:34
  This particular. Endgame thing Outlaw is over
• 1:18:38
  performing and so they're looking to adjust it for that.
• 1:18:44
  Rogues are typically doing fantastic damage.
• 1:18:48
  Not just Outlaws respects. So We're only seeing this Nerf
• 1:18:54
  in one particular thing because it is such an outlier.
• 1:18:57
  But note that all of these changes and you can go through
• 1:19:01
  our show notes, we have listed them extensively and we're not
• 1:19:05
  going to talk about them. All here, when you are seeing
• 1:19:09
  significant Buffs over and over and over again, and next to no
• 1:19:14
  nerves, which is something that people have consi said, oh,
• 1:19:18
  please don't Nerf this spec buff.
• 1:19:20
  The other specs, bring everybody.
• 1:19:21
  Up to that level. That's what we're seeing here,
• 1:19:24
  guys. Like this is again.
• 1:19:27
  Wow, seemingly changing its philosophy with even class
• 1:19:32
  tuning and these class tunings are coming, not in the end of
• 1:19:37
  the season or something, but like with in the middle of the
• 1:19:41
  Season, not 10 point 0.5, not 10.1 right hotfixes with
• 1:19:47
  significant shifts in damage. Profiles to bring bring the The
• 1:19:52
  classes and specs that we're lagging behind closer up to
• 1:19:55
  where they were. Yeah, other one that I want to
• 1:19:59
  point out is there are several destruction Buffs that we have
• 1:20:05
  in there that specifically do not apply to PVP.
• 1:20:09
  So, again, we're not PVP players.
• 1:20:12
  This is very much a PVP PVE oriented show but they are
• 1:20:18
  looking at stuff where it's like, okay, we do want to make
• 1:20:21
  this change because it's lagging behind in PVE soft like Mythic
• 1:20:26
  less like rain. Dating, but we know that this
• 1:20:31
  would be popping back for PVP. So Ray of Frost I think that
• 1:20:35
  they probably thought it through a bit, we'll see ya.
• 1:20:39
  Yeah, hopefully, that's the case.
• 1:20:40
  I did. I do make want to make a
• 1:20:42
  revision to a previously said, statement in this section.
• 1:20:47
  Holy priest is the only other specialization / class.
• 1:20:52
  That got a just blanket blanket buff.
• 1:20:57
  We're all all healing done by holy priest was increased by
• 1:21:01
  three percent across the board, so feral Good and holy priest.
• 1:21:06
  And I had to, I had to rectify that because we have several
• 1:21:10
  friends who played priest and he would be upset if it was mostly
• 1:21:19
  holy priest. So, you know, it plays out But
• 1:21:23
  yeah, I think all of these, all these changes are fantastic.
• 1:21:27
  I think it's really good that we're like you said seeing these
• 1:21:30
  changes mid-season because that is, that is a pretty Stark
• 1:21:34
  departure from what they've done.
• 1:21:35
  Well, not necessarily because they have made some small
• 1:21:38
  changes, but this is like, these are like the, the equivalent of
• 1:21:43
  class changes that you would see in major content patches and
• 1:21:47
  we're seeing this in the middle of a season.
• 1:21:48
  So I think, I think it's great. I think it's fantastic.
• 1:21:52
  And it's not really doing much to like upset The Meta because
• 1:21:58
  they're bringing classes up instead of nerfing.
• 1:22:03
  So good on that and as long as they don't overshoot, as long as
• 1:22:06
  they don't suddenly see like you right, fire, Mages like jump
• 1:22:09
  above Arcane and then everybody who was on Arcane suddenly has
• 1:22:12
  to switch over to fire Mage, right?
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  Which huge jump in performance. Yes, massive.
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  But you know, the the other good thing about doing these, these
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  like bringing like lower performing specializations up
• 1:22:34
  midseason. They have an opportunity at the
• 1:22:37
  beginning of the next season to just kind of do like a soft
• 1:22:41
  reset, where there are going to be changes coming in.
• 1:22:44
  There's going to be new tier sets.
• 1:22:45
  There are going to be new metals that are evolving because of the
• 1:22:48
  changes that are there being made at the start of the season.
• 1:22:52
  And then they'll have to readjust again.
• 1:22:54
  So I feel like this is this is a more healthy way of approaching
• 1:22:59
  it, where they're bringing their bringing people up that are that
• 1:23:03
  are playing the underrepresented specs, so that they can, they
• 1:23:07
  can, you know, feel like they're they're not falling behind
• 1:23:11
  constantly, which I think is, you know, just for the the
• 1:23:17
  mentality of going through playing the game.
• 1:23:20
  I think it's a much much healthier.
• 1:23:22
  Ethier design philosophy to to adopt.
• 1:23:25
  So we got lots of lots of little tweaks to the fault of the
• 1:23:33
  Incarnate read. There were a lot of trash mobs,
• 1:23:40
  that that got adjusted damage of certain abilities being reduced
• 1:23:46
  by up to 40%, which is, you know, pretty substantial
• 1:23:52
  substantial. A lot of the a lot of the
• 1:23:57
  interview packs have just straight-up had enemies removed
• 1:24:02
  and then we had three bosses in particular that got Nerfs.
• 1:24:06
  So we had cured, grimtotem with a ascended and razza, get that
• 1:24:10
  all had across multiple difficulties, had their
• 1:24:17
  abilities adjusted in some way. The FEA much more than the other
• 1:24:24
  two. With with your Argan Reza, get
• 1:24:27
  only having like one thing changed.
• 1:24:30
  But I think because these, these came in, with the last reset.
• 1:24:36
  Is that correct? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:24:39
  And like, but like graffia both Asia, she her changes were
• 1:24:46
  mostly focused on heroic. So I think it's just a little
• 1:24:48
  bit scaled up. Um, It's not undoable.
• 1:24:52
  We almost had her killed last week before these changes.
• 1:24:55
  And then this week she just rolled over because of the gear
• 1:24:59
  and because of the adjustments because she's one of those ones
• 1:25:02
  that like some of the ads they're pushback was reduced
• 1:25:06
  some of the damage had like a third of it.
• 1:25:08
  It's taken out from underneath her.
• 1:25:12
  But I think that the relative difficulty of this Ray has been
• 1:25:21
  pretty good. I've seen some teams that were
• 1:25:25
  afraid of even going into normal, right?
• 1:25:28
  They were like okay you know what we're just going to do
• 1:25:30
  we're going to be elif are heroes for this first week.
• 1:25:32
  Get some gear, feel good, about ourselves, kind of see what the
• 1:25:36
  boss is. Look like and then they because
• 1:25:40
  last week Europe, Didn't have didn't have their, there LF are
• 1:25:46
  working at the beginning of the reset.
• 1:25:50
  So, these teams that we're trying to go into a laugher,
• 1:25:52
  went into normal instead and they got a few kills and that
• 1:25:56
  helped push them. Like I think in terms of
• 1:26:00
  difficulty because this kind of Harkens back to the
• 1:26:04
  conversation. We had the beginning of the
• 1:26:05
  episode of like oh, like they made it a little more difficult,
• 1:26:08
  they slowed it down and it filled felt good.
• 1:26:11
  I think progression. Has to be like that, you can't
• 1:26:14
  have a wall on the first boss and everybody gets frustrated
• 1:26:17
  but you shouldn't be like just blasting through it so that we
• 1:26:22
  end up in a situation where it was like the end of season
• 1:26:27
  season for shadowlands or even season 3 shot lands where it's
• 1:26:30
  like, these don't feel like heroic bosses anymore.
• 1:26:33
  Just feels like everything died so quickly.
• 1:26:36
  So I'm glad that these changes haven't made it like So weak
• 1:26:44
  that I said that, I feel like all the difficulties out and I'm
• 1:26:47
  glad that it didn't start at the level of season 3 shadowlands.
• 1:26:50
  Whereas this like, this doesn't feel like these mechanics should
• 1:26:55
  be a normal little like like there were mechanics there like
• 1:26:58
  challenging and heroic, but felt kind of Mythic level that were
• 1:27:01
  normal. And it was just like one person
• 1:27:04
  can just screw everything up and I haven't seen that in this
• 1:27:07
  raid. Yeah, it's been, it's been a
• 1:27:09
  nice change of pace from from previous seasons.
• 1:27:13
  For sure. And I think, I think I agree
• 1:27:17
  that the the pacing the pacing of the season has been pretty
• 1:27:22
  good. Pretty good.
• 1:27:24
  But they rating isn't the only thing that they did that they
• 1:27:28
  had just a little bit. They adjusted as your V Court of
• 1:27:30
  stars, Halls of Valor and and noku defensive and Ruby life
• 1:27:35
  pulls all of those dungeons. Got got some minor adjustments.
• 1:27:40
  I think no could offensive and Ruby life.
• 1:27:42
  Bulls were the most affected so the Raging Tempest boss Anoka
• 1:27:49
  defensive had it was pretty egregious that there were lots
• 1:27:55
  of things that that were just. They stacked up and made made
• 1:28:02
  that boss a little bit more difficult than they were wanting
• 1:28:05
  it to be. And Ruby life pulls.
• 1:28:10
  Ask anyone that's participated in Mythic plus the season.
• 1:28:13
  How they like Ruby Life Pools and you probably are going to
• 1:28:17
  get some some groans probably probably some doors slammed in
• 1:28:23
  your face. No.
• 1:28:26
  But in all seriousness that dungeon definitely needed some
• 1:28:31
  attention and it got it they reduced a lot of the damage out
• 1:28:36
  going in. In that dungeon quite
• 1:28:39
  considerably and scaled it back to be a little bit more in line
• 1:28:43
  with the rest of the dungeons that are on on offer for Mythic
• 1:28:48
  plus and they be doing this throughout the rollout of this.
• 1:28:53
  We've seen the tree boss in the academy, get some adjustments,
• 1:29:02
  to be easier to recover from more forgiving on them on the
• 1:29:05
  mistake. So you don't have to be Very
• 1:29:08
  perfect on nuking down those ads Ruby life fools.
• 1:29:11
  Like you said the first boss and the second boss getting those
• 1:29:16
  getting those adjustments so that they are just like big
• 1:29:19
  walls and they've also been adjusting some exploits.
• 1:29:25
  Like there was a exploit in the temple that people were on the
• 1:29:29
  stairs just to screw over the damage.
• 1:29:32
  There was an exploit where people were just completely
• 1:29:36
  nullifying Xul's ability and just being like, OK, burn him
• 1:29:39
  down right up until this point, then take a locked gate across,
• 1:29:43
  and kill him before it became an issue.
• 1:29:46
  So they'd be in the it's not just being adjusting the pain
• 1:29:49
  points so that people can progress through.
• 1:29:52
  They've also been closing these loopholes so people do it
• 1:29:54
  properly and I'm really glad for that because even though, you
• 1:29:59
  know, there are some people who were at the top end who have
• 1:30:01
  already have their Keystone master and and 20s and such
• 1:30:07
  There are people who are really just getting into Mythic plus
• 1:30:11
  despite by disbelief that are now getting a fuck much easier
• 1:30:17
  time. Not even an easier time but a
• 1:30:18
  much more comfortable growth in that that room of play.
• 1:30:25
  Yeah, like it's definitely for me personally.
• 1:30:28
  I feel like this is a season that I can see myself working
• 1:30:34
  towards working towards The, the end goal of Mythic plus, which
• 1:30:40
  is Keystone master? I see.
• 1:30:42
  I see that being a possibility for me, huh?
• 1:30:45
  Not 20s. KSM.
• 1:30:48
  The rating is less than 20 20 s. Is the now the top, you 15.
• 1:30:54
  So you'll get your, your score for KSM.
• 1:30:56
  There's still more you can do. So I want to ask you, would you
• 1:31:00
  stop it? KSN think or what you think?
• 1:31:02
  Wish we are hard. I think I'll be content with KSM
• 1:31:07
  Furniture as a hypothetical role.
• 1:31:10
  I'm not promising anything. I'm just saying, I'm just
• 1:31:14
  saying, I'm just saying I could see myself getting too.
• 1:31:17
  To it. Where do I think at you?
• 1:31:18
  Where do you think you would go? Okay, it's more.
• 1:31:21
  It's more like, I feel like I can have a natural progression
• 1:31:24
  and feel like I can work towards it in a much more natural way.
• 1:31:30
  Okay, well again guys, we have all of these hotfixes in our
• 1:31:36
  show notes, do make sure you check the them out but for now
• 1:31:40
  we are going to call this an episode.
• 1:31:42
  So live when you are not fighting for your Keystone
• 1:31:47
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• 1:31:50
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• 1:32:26
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• 1:32:29
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