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Coconut Tequila Confessions, Cody Falls In Love & Wild NBA Free Agency Reporting · The Regulars

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  Welcome all, it is a Monday night and it feels like a Monday the way Tanya's kind of bouncing
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  all over the place and you are with your friends. You're in a safe place unless you're someone
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  we don't like. Welcome to The Regulars, I'm Cody Decker.
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  I'm Tanya Rae Fox and actually I've been saving this fun fact for you, which is probably good
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  timing since I did piss you off right before this.
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  We've never done that before, that's ridiculous.
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  But to be fair, I did earn the chagrin. So, you were at my house on Saturday.
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  I was. By the way, your house is awesome.
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  Thank you.
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  You have very high ceilings and a lot of room and by the way, only a few had shown up at the time
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  so I didn't get the full accoutrement, I should say, but I definitely got the good ones.
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  Yeah, you got the best ones. Yeah, everybody else who came after was totally lame.
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  I got the best ones.
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  Yeah, but you were there, you have a signature drink.
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  Yes.
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  And I had forgotten one half of the signature drink stuff, you got it delivered to the house.
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  I ordered it over, no problem.
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  So that means that when you left, your signature drink stuff was still there.
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  Which means I'm coming back for more.
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  Well, here's the news.
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  No, it's all gone?
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  No, no, no, here's the news. Unfortunately for me, fortunately for you, I have to admit
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  that your signature drink is delicious as fuck.
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  It is. By the way, I'm going to tell you what the drink is, they do not pay me.
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  They do not pay me.
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  I don't think, I wonder, do we, should we even say the brand?
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  I'm not going to say the brand.
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  Yeah.
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  But I will tell you what it is.
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  This drink is stupid delicious.
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  It's like, I'm really annoyed.
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  So Chris came out of the shower or something and I was like,
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  dude, Cody's stupid fucking signature drink is so good.
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  I know.
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  I'm now mad.
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  I know.
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  So there is a brand that makes a coconut tequila.
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  It is a well-known brand that makes a coconut-flavored tequila.
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  That maybe would someday want to sponsor us.
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  And if they would like to, they can.
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  But I refuse to play this game until they sponsor us.
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  But I do drink a coconut-flavored tequila and it's very simple.
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  I just put it on ice with Diet Coke or Diet Pepsi or Pepsi Zero.
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  This was Coke Zero.
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  Specifically Coke Zero.
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  Which was the clutch part.
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  It's the bigger part because it's a little sweeter.
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  I can't drink Diet Coke.
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  It's a little sweeter.
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  So like, this is a very sweet cocktail.
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  But when you're outside in the heat, this is a delightful beachy cocktail.
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  It tastes almost like an Almond Joy or something.
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  It's really, really good.
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  And it is my go-to.
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  And I freely admit, is it like a manly drink?
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  Probably not.
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  I don't give a shit.
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  If I'm drinking it, it's manly.
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  It's delicious and I know what I'm talking about.
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  And I apologize that I have taught you the way.
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  Dude, I was so like, because I don't drink soda at all.
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  I don't drink any soda, like ever.
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  The amount of soda that I drank because it was like the day after.
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  It was yesterday that I made myself another one.
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  I was like, this is the most soda I've drank in fucking years.
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  Because of this goddamn drink because it's so good.
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  And I'm like, what I think I'm going to do is I'm going to make it my version
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  and find like a no sugar cola flavoring to use.
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  So I'm going no sugar, obviously.
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  But I also drink no sugar soda all the time.
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  That's just kind of my thing.
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  It's like one of my jams.
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  Because we're both SodaStream people.
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  Yes, big time.
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  Big SodaStream guys.
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  So we have the SodaStream.
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  So I could do like a no sugar kind of flavoring.
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  So I use, I use because Pepsi product, like they don't pay me either.
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  But Pepsi products does do their thing with SodaStream.
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  I often use like zero sugar Pepsi.
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  So that's what it is.
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  You are making like a sparkling water that's flavored like Pepsi.
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  Yes.
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  Okay.
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  So that is my jam.
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  And you know, you know, it's weird.
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  You don't learn this from and it wasn't his drink.
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  He had a similar drink that is even sweeter than this if you believe it.
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  Craig Carton, your favorite.
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  He drinks Grand Marnier and Coca-Cola.
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  Dude, that is, that is such a like 70 year old man thing.
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  It is a very 70 year old.
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  But I'm not going to lie to you.
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  My coconut tequila and Coke Zero is really not far off.
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  When I was thinking about it, I was like, it really is such a weird combo until you taste it.
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  Until you taste it, you're like, why isn't this combo a go-to for everyone?
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  It's like I would have gatekept it except where we are gatekeeping the tequila brand.
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  People can figure it out probably.
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  But iconic signature drink.
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  I'm annoyed how much I like it.
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  I apologize.
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  I have to find a less sugary way to consume it or a less like, I don't know, you know, soda way.
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  Yes, because like the soda of it all it is kind of intense, but like, oh, so anyway, I had to give you that.
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  Thank you.
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  I was waiting until we were on air to tell you.
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  I apologize that I didn't drink all, but I'm also kind of excited because I left you a very simple cocktail that requires no effort whatsoever.
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  I would love to tell you that your coconut tequila will still be at my house when you come back.
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  It might not be.
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  Highly unlikely now.
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  I was like, oh, leave this here.
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  I'll bring it to Cody's next time.
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  It's a bit of a, I'm not going to lie to you, it's a bit of a problem.
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  Yeah.
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  Because the other thing is it tastes so good.
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  It's really good.
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  It goes down really kind of fast.
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  That's another part of it that people need to know in case you are considering doing Cody's signature drink.
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  It does not taste like alcohol.
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  No, no, it goes down very fast and easy tequila soda.
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  So like I I'm used to this the the taste of tequila to the point where it that doesn't even really like it's not so alcoholic taste to me.
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  But this shit does not taste like a cocktail.
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  No, it tastes like coconut flavored Coke.
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  It's not.
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  It can be a problem because before you know it, you may have polished off in a title bottle.
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  Yeah, tequila and you're wobbly.
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  It's it's happened to me.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  So that's a thing.
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  That's the thing that's happening in my household these days.
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  You're welcome.
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  Yeah, there's another game and you're back over.
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  I don't know that it'll be there.
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  We can always talk back up though.
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  You know, it's not expensive.
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  I was gonna say, it's also a cheap drink.
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  Cost-effective bottle.
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  Listen, I haven't bought a bottle of tequila.
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  That was like that.
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  And now does that kind of blow you away?
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  Because you know me, I like a good one and I like a good tequila and I like a good fucking scotch.
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  Like I drink good shit.
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  You always got to have your cheap options that taste just as good as anything.
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  You have to have those in your life.
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  You can't I can't sit around drinking in the a-hose all the time, man.
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  If I'm gonna have a casual drink and if I'm out of like a Sunday with some.
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  Yeah, I just want to drink that's easy to have like five and a-hose on the rocks.
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  Yeah, and by the way, I'm not an asshole that says no to a like a seltzer or something like yeah, give me a truly or something like that.
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  I'm gonna shit.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  I don't know.
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  That's what you were drinking until we got you your Coke.
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  Until my Coke Zero's popped in.
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  Just got dropped right off at the front door.
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  Listen, listen, I'm an innovator and I'm a game player.
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  I'm a team player and you know, we're all in this together.
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  So.
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  Yeah, well, I appreciate it and.
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  I'm thrilled to have partaken in your alcoholism.
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  I had to give you props, man.
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  Thank you.
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  Thank you.
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  Has Chris partaken yet?
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  Has he?
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  That's a good question.
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  Did he taste it?
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  I don't know.
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  I don't know.
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  I thought he was probably gonna taste one tonight.
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  Well, I hope he does because I.
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  I still have the stuff.
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  I look forward to changing his life as well.
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  It's it is a game changer.
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  I wish there was another way to say it there.
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  It's a full-on game changer, but we got a lot to cover tonight
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  and we're starting a little bit.
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  It looks like in my realm are we starting in the NBA or we starting
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  with the CBA proposal because we can go in a lot of directions
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  today.
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  Well, or are we starting World Cup?
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  Well, we weren't gonna do World Cup because I was like, okay,
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  we're gonna take a little break.
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  We're running.
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  I didn't know how today's games are gonna go.
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  I'm like, I'll give us a little break.
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  We're just God.
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  Then we just got I we might as well.
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  At least talk.
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  We have to at least mention it.
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  Germany, Paraguay, because we had our first this this cup seems to
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  be dedicated to giving us as many of the like, like most insane
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  results.
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  Amazing as humanly.
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  I'm loving this thing.
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  So and by the way, can I can I admit something?
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  Yeah, when it first started and I'm talking like the first like
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  three days, I was a stereotypical American.
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  I was not super into it.
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  Okay, because I was taking in my like past not my past like biases
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  or anything like that.
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  I just made past disinterest almost past his interest in and I feel
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  like that disinterest a little unfair.
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  It's just a combination of listen.
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  It's just not been in front of me.
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  The best soccer in the world has not been in front of me enough and
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  based on my my history of being a pro baseball player, our athletics
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  and our media coverage of athletics has for lack of a better phrase
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  Really bastardized soccer to a point where we've made it a lesser
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  sport knowing full well men's soccer.
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  I should really say I apologize, but uh, but unless it's not knowing
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  full well that this is not the case.
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  I know this in my head.
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  You intellectually understood.
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  I'm aware, but because I've never experienced it and I have never
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  really had a dog in the race.
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  Sort of like when you've never been in love, but you know, the
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  concept, you know, it exists.
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  You're told it's there.
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  You've seen other people, but then all of a sudden you fall in love.
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  And you're like, fuck.
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  Yeah, and holy shit.
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  Am I in love?
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  Yeah, it took about three days.
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  It took, you know what?
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  It's like it took the weekend because I for when it launched like,
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  okay, I'll then the Saturday you need to get hammered at O'Brien's
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  then the Saturday came where you could fully understand and I just
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  said, wait a second.
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  It's like this every four years.
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  I'm I never want this to end.
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  I want this to be every year and this is amazing and I love everything
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  about it and I've loved everything about it from not only the soccer
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  in the play on the field on the pitch.
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  I'm sorry.
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  I'm not going to say field.
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  So thank you.
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  You can say both not only the athleticism involved not only getting
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  a chance to see because you know, I've seen I've been to MLS games.
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  I've watched so much soccer in my life.
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  Yeah, you're not it's yeah, you just could never had the like, but
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  I've never been on a lot of dates.
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  I've been on a lot of days dude watching this watching the gameplay
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  watching legitimately watching the bodies on the field strategically
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  move and really having a chance to really sit down and watch it really
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  just watch it the very best players who exist on our planet in our
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  time zone in our stadiums fucking doing this it is just straight-up
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  different.
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  It is just like oh my god.
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  I get it.
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  I understand why this is exciting.
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  I understand why people fucking die for this shit.
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  Yeah, I fucking get it the problem that I'm only the only problem I
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  should really say that none of this is a problem.
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  This is fucking right.
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  Yeah, it's just where do we go from here because everyone then breaks
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  off into their better leagues that isn't here and that sucks because
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  like what we're doing you all stay in the MLS so I can continue watching
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  all of you.
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  We are doing better on that front and like so like we've always the
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  MLS has always been able to get like the stars who are still have a lot
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  going on but at the end of their run, it's like at the end, you know,
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  but like they've still had like really great careers Tyrion Rhee and
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  David Beckham and obviously Lionel Messi and these players have always
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  come over here Pele notoriously actually so back in the day when it
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  wasn't the MLS, but you know, we always have that opportunity and I
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  think it's really a marketing thing more than anything because like
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  there are opportunities to have these these huge talents over here and
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  then we don't really capitalize on it as much.
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  However, I understand and I do.
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  I mean I can also completely I can confirm that you are genuinely
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  invested because we watched the shootout between Paraguay and Germany
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  together.
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  I stayed after this after my show today because the Brazil match
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  started literally at 10 right when I got off the air with Derrick
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  Fisher.
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  I stayed and watched the first half so I didn't miss anything.
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  I left at 11 an hour after I needed to be there.
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  So I think and hustle home to watch the second half like I I am fucking
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  it's not it's not fake at all.
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  Like no, I'm in our sites.
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  We were like freaking out watching it like it as soon and I think the
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  what's probably happening to you is you're also just understanding
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  the game more because you've been watching so much of it like you
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  always know the basics or whatever, but the more you watch anything
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  the more you start noticing the nuances you start appreciating like
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  oh, I never paid attention to like quarter kick form before this.
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  I never noticed it.
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  You're going to start noticing all those things as somebody who's
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  actually invested rather than casually watching but also things
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  I like the Premier League and but but because of the time of the Premier
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  League like yeah, when was the last time you like sat down and watched
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  a full Premier League game?
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  It's been a while.
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  Like I've gone to O'Brien's to watch a man Manchester United game at
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  6 in the morning before.
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  Okay, but it's been a while.
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  I've only I've only done like twice and like it's also a bit of a bitch
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  to get there at 6 in the morning.
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  Sometimes Champions League game or something.
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  Yeah, and where was packed and awesome but like also that's a bit of
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  a that's a bit tricky to do that.
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  It is not like you said like it's not as when you have to get up and
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  go to a game at 6 o'clock in the morning or 7 o'clock in the morning
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  to like watch it at the bar like it's now you're like I have to exhaust
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  myself to watch this goddamn game.
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  I don't have to do that.
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  This is our times and this is our shit.
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  This is this is I told you this is prepping us for enjoying the summer
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  2028 Olympics but 2028?
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  Yeah, 2028.
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  This is prepping us for that because like for the first time in a while
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  we're finally gonna have the Olympics in our time zone as well, which is
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  gonna be really fucking awesome.
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  Very cool.
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  Which I'm excited about.
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  Yeah, like, you know, my big thing once we got once it got to a shootout
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  with Germany for Paraguay was I genuinely needed them to win so that I
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  could go back on to the internet and make fun of the it was just Paraguay
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  bros because after the US whooped the shit out of Paraguay in the first
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  fucking round first game, I was told over and over again condescendingly
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  by a bunch of bros who either did or probably just started watching soccer
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  again since the last World Cup.
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  And I always know what I'm talking about because I'm me and I don't
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  fucking I don't run my mouth on shit.
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  I don't know about because I'm not trying to get proven wrong.
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  So I know what I talk about and when I know like I we talked about on the
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  show.
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  This is not a team.
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  This was a team that was very hot coming into the tournament that had an
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  incredible defense.
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  This was not a throwaway team and they just beat Germany and they're in
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  the round of 16.
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  So you better bet your ass that right before the show started I went on
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  threads and I was like, oh, hold on.
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  Wait a second.
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  I said it last week.
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  I'll say it again.
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  The just Paraguay bros are fucking silent.
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  Now, where you at?
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  Where you bitches at now hard to find you know, like, you know, and I know
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  Germany was a flawed team, but really cool results Brazil, you know, kind
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  of eked it out and that's I feel like I feel like that's good.
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  Like we needed I think we needed Brazil to make it through.
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  Yes, I know.
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  But a part of me was thinking man Japan.
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  I really thought I was going to do it.
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  I was I think it was good for the star power of it all.
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  So and yeah, we've got I mean next show we're going to have we're going
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  to know whether USA made it to the room.
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  Yes, we will and my favorite thing about that is and I mean this and I
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  brought up on the show today and I know you've seen the clip of the of
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  the Los Angeles ABC reporter who has gone off and like we don't care
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  about Bosnia.
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  We don't need to know about Bosnia.
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  I don't even know where Bosnia is but she was listen, listen, she has
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  since apologized.
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  Okay, so that this poor was trying to be funny this poor girl.
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  I think she was trying to be funny and just talk and I kind of talk or
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  shit, but you know how you like talk shit and you've never done it
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  before.
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  So she kind of went in a whole thing.
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  It went viral for the wrong reasons.
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  She's like and what we're going to go up against Bosnia and who is
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  Bosnia?
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  I don't even know where Bosnia in every and Bosnia like the soccer
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  team even like posted is like the ignorance just sells itself about
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  America and I'm like, she made us into the caricature, which is really
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  that's a huge disappointment.
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  She even finished up with saying and they don't want this smoke anyways
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  back to you Jim and she was just trying to be like it was somebody
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  who's never watched sports in their life trying to talk sports shit and
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  it didn't go well and I laughed a little bit at the amount of backlash
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  and the effect that she had to put out an apology because it's how
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  everybody reacts to it.
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  Like now we are always the stupid Americans.
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  I know we're never putting our best on television.
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  I agree.
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  Just we never really are but I really felt bad for I don't she really
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  didn't I didn't know what she was doing.
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  I told you this last show and it's only getting worse my patience and
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  BOD has run the fuck out, but I couldn't stop laughing like you've
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  been there before or get the fuck off my screen.
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  I'm by the way, just so we're all clear Bosnia is is is north of
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  Montenegro and south of Croatia.
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  It's also a little east of Croatia to in some parts.
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  Well, you know very contested situation there between them in Croatia.
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  That's the kind of the whole thing I know and also east of it is Serbia
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  just so we have a full context of what's surrounding Bosnia someone
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  tweeted or like posted on threads or something where they were like,
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  oh, so like why is it?
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  It's like so not fair that America has to play both Bosnia and Herzegovina.
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  We have to play two countries.
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  They were clearly cut.
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  That's a joke.
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  I hope that's just like as a Serbian I can tell you that so what they do
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  is Serbia plays the first half and Herzegovina plays the second.
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  That's really funny and I bet a lot of people didn't get that good
• 17:07
  stuff.
• 17:07
  Well, let's get the headlines because holy shit.
• 17:11
  What can I say Tanya?
• 17:12
  This has been a for for for a for an official free agency that hasn't
• 17:17
  begun yet.
• 17:19
  Yeah, this has been a batshit free agency.
• 17:21
  We say this in NFL and NBA all the time where it's like there's no
• 17:24
  actually there's no like not free agency.
• 17:27
  Technically, nothing's happened yet, but everything is happening in
• 17:31
  the NBA and wow, I really do and I love the legal tampering right
• 17:37
  now in the NBA because holy shit officially 6 p.m.
• 17:41
  Eastern tomorrow is when free agency hits but Tanya tell us everything
• 17:46
  we already know so the big one today, which I think we can like
• 17:51
  honestly probably like break down right now.
• 17:53
  This is a little bit of media corner.
• 17:54
  Also in our first headline is that Shams is is working overtime
• 18:00
  reporting that the Golden State Warriors declined Draymond Green's
• 18:05
  27.7 million dollar player option to become a free agent and this
• 18:09
  comes out the day after the Warriors said that they expected him to
• 18:12
  pick up the option instead.
• 18:14
  He's delivering Golden State time and space to pursue Anthony Davis
• 18:18
  with the Wizards and convince LeBron James to join Steph Curry Draymond
• 18:22
  Green and his old Lakers championship teammate in the bay.
• 18:25
  So my I read this report.
• 18:30
  I read it when I got the notification on my phone and then I read this
• 18:33
  report later on threads and this to me is like a perfect example of
• 18:38
  how these insiders are an absolute fucking joke an absolute fucking
• 18:45
  joke.
• 18:45
  I wasn't expecting to say that so that's a fucking funny because can
• 18:49
  you not do that when I'm drinking because I I really want to I I
• 18:53
  thought you were to say is impressive.
• 18:55
  Please take it away.
• 19:00
  Tell me more.
• 19:00
  So this reeks of Rich Paul has given me all this information and I've
• 19:05
  I've just failed to fact-check it.
• 19:08
  That's this reeks of Rich Paul maneuvering and manipulating the free
• 19:12
  agent offseason market.
• 19:13
  Yes, and we've seen this before we're going to keep seeing it.
• 19:15
  I said he's basically gone full shifter and here's the thing.
• 19:18
  Can you give me one good fucking reason why the Warriors would do this?
• 19:27
  I mean, this is you did you ever see that movie Las Vegas second?
• 19:30
  I'm trying to see excuse me.
• 19:32
  You asked me a question this question requires actually legitimate
• 19:36
  thinking give me a second because this would make them an average and
• 19:39
  this is true 37.2 years old which would make them the oldest team in
• 19:42
  the NBA by roughly a decade.
• 19:44
  Excuse me.
• 19:47
  You asked me a question.
• 19:48
  Why would the Warriors do this now to answer your question?
• 19:55
  Because it would be a lot of fun to watch.
• 19:57
  I listen what if I?
• 20:01
  I would watch this.
• 20:02
  I was two years away from Stefan LeBron and the Olympics two years ago.
• 20:08
  Like we're we're old here.
• 20:10
  I'm not saying you're wrong.
• 20:12
  You're dead right Stefan LeBron would be cool.
• 20:14
  I would I would and I would understand that but like
• 20:17
  AD okay, so hear me out on this.
• 20:21
  There's been a perspective that's been perspective presented me recently
• 20:25
  that at first I would scoff at but the more I'm thinking about it and
• 20:32
  I think you're going to scoff at it first and you might even make you
• 20:34
  mad.
• 20:34
  Well, you know that has happened with me a lot but this is from Derek
• 20:38
  Fisher.
• 20:38
  Okay.
• 20:39
  Well, I'll be nice to do fish.
• 20:40
  I can't start a beef with him on my show deficient deficient Decker on
• 20:43
  the fan.
• 20:44
  La you should listen.
• 20:45
  I can't be the angry co-hosts, but he has this he said this thing today
• 20:49
  that at first we said I was going to push back.
• 20:50
  Okay, but then he said it again the next hour and I'm just kind of like
• 20:53
  I need you to really kind of go into details about this and it was about
• 20:56
  like these guys each one of these guys are at a certain age in their
• 21:01
  career.
• 21:03
  Every team they go on.
• 21:05
  They are fighting for a championship period.
• 21:07
  It's it every one of them.
• 21:09
  They're not there to collect a pay.
• 21:11
  They are really are trying to win a championship in terms of mentality
• 21:14
  like yes, they are each one of them, but he said there is an aspect that
• 21:18
  when you get to a certain point, you just want to make sure you no matter
• 21:21
  what you're enjoying showing up every day.
• 21:24
  So he was kind of almost presenting it is yes.
• 21:27
  Would this be a little bit of a country club?
• 21:30
  Yeah, but these each one of these guys would be really fired up to show
• 21:34
  up just to be with each other because the minds and collective years
• 21:39
  together would just be different almost like he was almost like it to
• 21:42
  me.
• 21:43
  He was like almost expressing that this team could beat teams just bought
• 21:47
  with their brains along with their ability while also taking a little
• 21:50
  bit off.
• 21:51
  I just kept pushing back going it would be a collectively 37 year old
• 21:55
  average age team though and that to me is just wild in today's day and
• 22:01
  age.
• 22:02
  See that's the interesting part is like deep that thing from D fish does
• 22:05
  not address my core question.
• 22:07
  What's your core question?
• 22:08
  Why would the Warriors do that?
• 22:10
  Because they I think they're already kind of locked into this star power
• 22:14
  that they have and it looks like they're planning on running it back.
• 22:16
  No matter what it's they're not locked in.
• 22:18
  They're literally not locked into Draymond.
• 22:20
  He's he literally just opted out.
• 22:22
  So you think they're going to like his option was 27.7 totally affordable
• 22:27
  very important.
• 22:27
  Have I agree Steph?
• 22:29
  Yes, they are they Steph for garlic even at best.
• 22:33
  We've got another three four or five years max of stuff.
• 22:36
  I agree, right?
• 22:36
  I agree.
• 22:37
  So we just talked about this in our last show about these billionaires
• 22:41
  and they're like constant need to make sure that they're kind of doing
• 22:44
  something that's going to like bring in the money.
• 22:46
  You could argue that having LeBron and Steph and Draymond together will
• 22:50
  bring in the ratings, but the Warriors don't have any issues with ratings
• 22:52
  more does LeBron James.
• 22:54
  That is a fair point and they are tanking their ability to build beyond
• 22:59
  Steph Curry that I agree with so I'm a little that's it's not that I don't
• 23:03
  think they'd want to do it.
• 23:04
  They definitely I do ad will absolute with wants to be back with LeBron.
• 23:09
  No matter what if he couldn't go with LeBron.
• 23:10
  He'd want to be with Steph the both of them who wouldn't want to fucking
• 23:13
  do that.
• 23:13
  I like to see it.
• 23:15
  I'm not gonna lie to you.
• 23:16
  I also just like it's like a bunch of dudes wrecked by Rich Paul and
• 23:19
  Shams is suddenly telling us that like they all just aren't we're going
• 23:23
  to try to fuck it.
• 23:23
  Oh, come on.
• 23:25
  No, no, it's definitely corny, but I would like to I'm not going to push
• 23:29
  back because I agree with you.
• 23:30
  It's obviously from Rich Paul.
• 23:32
  I don't have as big of a problem with it and I'll tell you why because
• 23:35
  it's not unlike what the NBA teams do exist themselves.
• 23:38
  I don't think that this is a like new.
• 23:40
  Yeah, like it's not like a phenomenon that I don't need but it is I think
• 23:44
  that the manipulation of the agents are doing what they do.
• 23:48
  Yeah, the teams are doing what they do, whatever.
• 23:51
  I am so tired of insiders report.
• 23:55
  Just well, that's a fair that's fair.
• 23:57
  Rich Paul is currently trying to do this like like I mean, this is not
• 24:00
  journalism and people know I know but people's pushback is always like
• 24:04
  well insiders aren't journalists.
• 24:06
  Okay, they you're saying that because they've stopped doing journalism
• 24:10
  not because the definition of the job is not true.
• 24:13
  You are correct.
• 24:13
  No, no, that's it drives me nuts when people say that to me.
• 24:16
  It's like you're not journalist.
• 24:17
  Yeah at one point guys.
• 24:18
  I know I'm old.
• 24:20
  I'm older than I look Adam Schefter used to do journalism.
• 24:23
  I know that's crazy.
• 24:25
  I know you can't even believe it but he actually did Walsh used to do
• 24:29
  journalism like when he did the job before Sean but that's not what the
• 24:33
  job is anymore.
• 24:34
  Sadly, I but you're now you're the guy now.
• 24:36
  You're like, oh, well, that's not my fucking point.
• 24:39
  I don't know.
• 24:39
  I get it.
• 24:40
  My point is that that job has ceased to exist.
• 24:42
  And so this job of PR from Rich Paul Shams being PR for Rich Paul's
• 24:47
  agenda is not is absolutely not the the like trick that's that's not
• 24:53
  the transparent role.
• 24:54
  He's supposed to you're absolutely right.
• 24:55
  But that's where this is.
• 24:57
  I agree with you.
• 24:58
  No, you're not wrong.
• 24:59
  I I agree with everything you're saying.
• 25:01
  This is my not my pushback my answer to that.
• 25:05
  They're on ESPN.
• 25:07
  They are ESPN is not a journalistic integrity organization.
• 25:11
  ESPN is same with Fox same with basically everything that has portrayed
• 25:15
  sports on television is no longer journalism.
• 25:19
  It just is it is I know but that but that either take but this is what
• 25:23
  I'm I'm saying.
• 25:24
  No, I'm a great man, but I but this is what they do.
• 25:26
  They take people who were this is what I do and call like so this is
• 25:30
  it's like the cycle, right?
• 25:31
  Yes, they they used to be journalists.
• 25:33
  They pretend to do journalism.
• 25:34
  They're not doing it.
• 25:35
  And then I talk about how they're not doing is that someone on the
• 25:37
  internet's like well, we don't even expect them to do that anymore.
• 25:40
  And that's that's the fucking but that's the problem.
• 25:42
  That's the problem.
• 25:43
  But my problem is not with them.
• 25:44
  My problems with the system.
• 25:45
  Yeah, the system is basically it's almost like journalism and journalism
• 25:48
  school and everywhere you work.
• 25:49
  You work at the athletic you work at New York Times.
• 25:51
  You work at the New York Post.
• 25:53
  I'm sorry.
• 25:53
  I'm going to remove the post from that conversation you work from one
• 25:56
  of these reputable fucking places where you actually are a journalist.
• 26:00
  You are doing the actual journalism.
• 26:02
  All these places like you doing that that's now sadly the fucking
• 26:08
  minor leagues now.
• 26:09
  It's not but it's viewed as the minor leagues and now until you get
• 26:12
  called up to ESPN where you throw out all of your journalistic
• 26:15
  integrity and become a fucking reality show host.
• 26:19
  Yeah, that's just I hate it.
• 26:21
  I fucking hate it.
• 26:22
  Yeah, but that's what it is.
• 26:24
  What I think needs to be done.
• 26:28
  Please telling you this I'll tell you what needs to be done people
• 26:31
  and I'm not kidding.
• 26:32
  This is going to people need to pay people like me.
• 26:35
  Yes.
• 26:36
  Do you know how many people every day are like I get actual news
• 26:40
  and actual analysis from you.
• 26:42
  I've stopped watching ESPN.
• 26:43
  There's a couple other people on the internet that I watch.
• 26:45
  I get it for you.
• 26:46
  I get it from whoever right?
• 26:47
  Yeah, and meanwhile, I I'm struggling to pay my bills.
• 26:52
  These motherfuckers are on ESPN.
• 26:54
  And then I've got everybody telling me they don't expect any better
• 26:56
  because they've got people like me and people like us with doing
• 26:59
  this shit for no money and trying to give you the fucking actual
• 27:03
  truth, right?
• 27:04
  So it's like so you don't actually like you motherfuckers don't
• 27:07
  get to come to me and be like, oh, that's just what it is when
• 27:09
  the only reason you know what it is is because of us like fuck
• 27:13
  off and I agree with you wholeheartedly.
• 27:16
  It's this is a systematic problem more than it is a Shams problem.
• 27:19
  I'm not going to be mad at Shams for taking advantage of a system
• 27:21
  that is now been catered to what he is now become and by the way,
• 27:25
  I actually personally like Shams.
• 27:26
  Shams is a great guy.
• 27:27
  I got I don't you don't that's fine.
• 27:29
  I've only worked with a few times.
• 27:30
  I don't dislike him.
• 27:31
  Yeah, I would say I am neutral.
• 27:33
  Okay, that's fair.
• 27:34
  Yeah, I would say I'm neutral too.
• 27:35
  I've I've hung out in a group with Shams.
• 27:38
  I think he's very handsome.
• 27:40
  He's very handsome.
• 27:40
  That's all that's all but like he's attractive on camera charming
• 27:44
  enough, but I can't stress enough.
• 27:46
  That's just what these systems are now.
• 27:48
  Sadly, it's really awful.
• 27:50
  It's really fascinating is like I you know, I'm not going to spill
• 27:53
  the entirety here, but the way that Shams got his role as the
• 27:59
  insider where he was able to build into what he has was essentially
• 28:04
  another person doing the role prior to him being really generous
• 28:09
  with their Rolodex of sources, right?
• 28:12
  He was kind of brought into it by someone with who was like very
• 28:16
  Generous and wanted to see him succeed and then they were rivals
• 28:20
  for a long time and Shams in a lot of ways undermine him and
• 28:25
  disrespected that like a little bit of you know, lack of gamesmanship
• 28:31
  like real like integrity and and then on top of it you see what
• 28:36
  insiderdom has become in general and it really is like there's
• 28:41
  no there's no integrity anymore like in any of these spaces.
• 28:45
  There was an integrity in the rules.
• 28:47
  There's not there's a lot of there's just like a lot of petty
• 28:50
  bullshit between these insiders and reporters and like that's
• 28:54
  where it's like also just kind of gross too.
• 28:55
  So it's just it's not that I think that Shams is any worse than
• 28:58
  anybody else.
• 28:59
  No, I don't think he is but I mean also like, you know, he was
• 29:04
  very young when he got catapult catapulted into this role and
• 29:08
  like like bro, what are you 33?
• 29:10
  You've already given up on fucking having any integrity.
• 29:13
  Wow, man, like you got a long way to go on the rest of your
• 29:16
  fucking journey.
• 29:17
  All right, fine.
• 29:18
  That's fine.
• 29:19
  And and you know what that I shouldn't the one thing I will
• 29:23
  say is it's not just him.
• 29:25
  If you weren't doing this it'll be somebody else doing it.
• 29:28
  And so he's decided he's doing it great.
• 29:30
  You're getting the paycheck.
• 29:30
  You're getting the paycheck, but I am okay getting on my moral
• 29:33
  high horse and on my integrity high horse because I at any
• 29:37
  point in time could have taken a lot of paychecks.
• 29:39
  I didn't take so I get to be that I I know people hate this
• 29:43
  but I get to be the integrity police because I am sure I don't
• 29:46
  actually have anything that anyone can hold against me.
• 29:48
  Well, the thing is like I really do hate where this I spoke
• 29:53
  to my agent today and we're talking about my any TV going
• 29:56
  on because I realized I haven't done TV now like a year.
• 29:58
  What's going on?
• 29:59
  He's like not just the the whole industry is just downsizing
• 30:01
  and baseball specially everybody's kind of got their their
• 30:04
  crews.
• 30:04
  I'm like, okay.
• 30:04
  Well, I don't really want to work in baseball anyway.
• 30:06
  So fucking put me somewhere else.
• 30:08
  Yeah, and he's just like well, do you I'm just going to focus
• 30:10
  on my show right now and focus on my stuff.
• 30:12
  But more I was talking about it.
• 30:14
  I was just like, I don't even want to fucking go there.
• 30:17
  Yeah, I just don't like I really because you know the game
• 30:20
  you're going to have to play because I don't but I don't like
• 30:22
  the game and in the game is ran by so I want time recently
• 30:28
  was out in a place and you and I have had this similar
• 30:31
  conversation because I've always joked that I like I've laughed
• 30:34
  that like somebody would say you like being the smartest
• 30:37
  person in the room to me out of ego and I would laugh and
• 30:40
  I'm like, no, I don't even think I'm the smartest person
• 30:42
  in most rooms.
• 30:43
  I'm the smartest person in the rooms that I'm in but you
• 30:46
  have to understand I've worked in professional baseball
• 30:49
  and now the sports media industry.
• 30:51
  I have yet to be in a room where I'm not surrounded by
• 30:53
  fucking idiots.
• 30:54
  That's just it.
• 30:55
  This is a this is truly and I mean this is honestly and not
• 31:01
  respectfully or disrespectfully.
• 31:02
  This is just honestly candid.
• 31:04
  This is a true and utter clown show and it is being run by
• 31:09
  the biggest idiots that you went to high school with like
• 31:12
  you no one in this industry is there's 10 smart people in
• 31:16
  this industry.
• 31:16
  I've met four of them Tanya's two of them.
• 31:19
  I don't know what to tell you other than this is a really
• 31:22
  weird and ugly industry where everyone's trying to kill each
• 31:25
  other and I'll give you a really good example.
• 31:27
  We're talking about insiders and how weird the insider
• 31:30
  industry is one industry insider has been ousted from her
• 31:34
  position only one for business practices that are not good
• 31:39
  even though everyone has their really shady business practices,
• 31:42
  but only one insider has been ousted from their position.
• 31:47
  You should all be asking yourself a very simple question.
• 31:50
  Why was that one targeted and not everyone else because there
• 31:54
  are other people in this industry or insiders who do when
• 31:57
  I say the exact same thing if not more the fuck are you people
• 32:03
  talking about?
• 32:03
  Isn't that funny?
• 32:04
  How weird weird so I talking about shams.
• 32:08
  I'm being told this is just what it is.
• 32:10
  This is how every insider is but you can't expect integrity.
• 32:13
  Oh, we hold on.
• 32:13
  Wait, where was this two months ago?
• 32:15
  Yeah, because during the Diana Rossini you were shocked
• 32:18
  appalled grass.
• 32:19
  My God, how dare the integrity of the game?
• 32:24
  They are compromising the role of Journal AJ Brown wants
• 32:28
  to leave his business.
• 32:31
  How did she learn that?
• 32:34
  Yeah, isn't that interesting guys clown show?
• 32:38
  Understand circus clowns running the circus.
• 32:43
  Yep.
• 32:44
  So until you guys realize that about the sports industry,
• 32:47
  I'm not smart.
• 32:48
  I just seem smart because everyone here is stupid.
• 32:52
  Exactly.
• 32:54
  I am average intelligence.
• 32:57
  I constantly disagree with that but I'm sick of that's because
• 33:00
  you're surrounded by idiots to know.
• 33:02
  Well, I wasn't saying that everybody else is smart, but I
• 33:06
  will say so just beyond what we just talked about in terms
• 33:10
  of what the mayor may not be happening with the Warriors is
• 33:13
  way more.
• 33:14
  I didn't want to ask you specifically about Marcus Smart
• 33:18
  declining his player option.
• 33:19
  Do you think?
• 33:20
  Yeah, I think you're going to end up back with the Lakers
• 33:22
  at a higher price, which does hurt the cap situation with
• 33:25
  strongly lynched linked to the rocket.
• 33:27
  I know and I don't want that to happen.
• 33:29
  I know it really could.
• 33:31
  He was by the way, Marcus Smart was like the secret sauce
• 33:34
  for this team last year.
• 33:35
  Like I really of how about this?
• 33:37
  If you gave me the options of keeping the LeBron James and
• 33:39
  Marcus Smart, I want Marcus.
• 33:41
  Yeah, because he just the role he fit and LeBron showed all
• 33:46
  the roles you can fit but I'm listen this as a Laker fan thinking
• 33:50
  of it as as Lucas team at this point.
• 33:52
  I am.
• 33:52
  I know what you mean as a Laker fan.
• 33:54
  I will be perfectly happy with LeBron coming back and dive up
• 33:57
  but I've also freely admitted for years.
• 33:59
  I have not liked the LeBron Lakers until this last year.
• 34:03
  This was the first time I really enjoyed if you guys could
• 34:06
  get stuff.
• 34:09
  I'm getting I'm getting I'm good.
• 34:10
  That's not happening as I have it.
• 34:11
  You can't say I'm good.
• 34:13
  I mean, come on.
• 34:14
  He's fucking stuff.
• 34:15
  Yeah, of course.
• 34:15
  I'll take what are you talking about?
• 34:17
  It's not like going to entertain.
• 34:18
  I'm not going to go.
• 34:19
  I'm not going to go after him, but I'm there's a part of me
• 34:22
  that's going like if we get LeBron back, great.
• 34:23
  It's going to be a price tag for a 42 year old guy that does
• 34:26
  worry me on Jalen Brown.
• 34:27
  He seems to be up for grabs actually.
• 34:29
  Yes.
• 34:30
  I would fucking love to have Jalen Brown.
• 34:32
  You want you want to give him up?
• 34:33
  Give him over to me.
• 34:34
  I really don't.
• 34:35
  Yeah.
• 34:35
  Well, you guys are putting yourself in a weird spot, but I'm
• 34:39
  also kind of today was the first day with all this warrior
• 34:43
  talk and all the speculation and seeing the overtime that
• 34:47
  Rich Paul's doing.
• 34:48
  I'm just kind of going like, you know what?
• 34:51
  We just got back Austin Reaves.
• 34:53
  We got Luca.
• 34:54
  If LeBron really wants to leave and play the games, let him
• 34:56
  do that at the end of the day.
• 34:58
  We have to rip this band-aid off.
• 34:59
  No matter what.
• 35:00
  Yeah, whether it's this year the following year the following
• 35:02
  year after that.
• 35:03
  We have to do it.
• 35:04
  So fucking maybe you can't recreate LeBron in the aggregate,
• 35:08
  but maybe you can get so much fucking depth to build around
• 35:11
  these two cats and maybe get that big man and really fucking
• 35:14
  get some defensive fucking wizards.
• 35:16
  Yeah that you keep telling me that you can get hey, listen,
• 35:21
  maybe it is time.
• 35:23
  Maybe yeah, I don't know.
• 35:25
  I think it requires better basketball minds than me because
• 35:28
  I'm still in fan brain, but I'm also seeing the possibility
• 35:31
  of what the future is Fisher, you know, I think he can help
• 35:33
  with that.
• 35:34
  He does and he does any any kind of paints.
• 35:36
  He does do a good job of painting both sides, but but he
• 35:38
  also freely admits recreating LeBron the aggregate is not
• 35:43
  a yeah, it's it's a it's a it's in on paper.
• 35:47
  It's a thing.
• 35:47
  It's but in one man, it's not a thing especially when you
• 35:50
  consider that like pre LeBron the Lakers weren't just ineffective
• 35:55
  and like a bad team.
• 35:56
  No.
• 35:56
  No, he was in re-legitimized him.
• 35:58
  It was like a they were losing ratings kind of like it was
• 36:04
  a this was it was the worst era in the history of the Lakers
• 36:07
  as an organization.
• 36:08
  This is why I don't like Lamar ball era LeVar both.
• 36:13
  No, I've heard all the marble.
• 36:14
  Sorry.
• 36:15
  I like Mark Burton so much.
• 36:16
  I'm sorry, but you think everybody named LeVar is Lamar.
• 36:19
  I just like the name Lamar more.
• 36:20
  Have you ever seen?
• 36:22
  Well, actually when I think of Lamar actually think of the
• 36:23
  movie Revenge of the nerds, which by the way, very problematic
• 36:26
  movie.
• 36:27
  If you watch it today, LeVar Arrington LeVar LeVar him.
• 36:30
  There's a lot of LeVar's but no, I'm just dude.
• 36:34
  He was so annoying because why is it so and it was so annoying
• 36:38
  at the time.
• 36:38
  That was the worst.
• 36:40
  What was it?
• 36:40
  Who was a right?
• 36:43
  Who was the he was dating Iggy Azalea and cheating on Iggy
• 36:47
  Azalea.
• 36:48
  Nick Ryan Swaggy P Swaggy P was doing it and then it was
• 36:51
  fucking he's fighting with his teammate who told Iggy Azalea
• 36:55
  like this was the Lakers before LeBron show.
• 36:58
  There was a solid four years.
• 36:59
  They were a clown show of true utter fucking chaos.
• 37:03
  Like I couldn't believe like it was honestly when you look
• 37:05
  back on it like people don't remember how bad it was because
• 37:09
  it was right post Kobe because the Warriors had stepped in
• 37:12
  to save your asses because if the Warriors hasn't been a
• 37:15
  dynasty in that spot LeBron on the you know from the heat
• 37:19
  to the calves and they saved the Lakers from being from being
• 37:23
  Delos first go around and he was so bad and he was awful
• 37:26
  that first go around.
• 37:27
  Yeah, so much so that the second go around with him was
• 37:30
  actually the great D low and I didn't I didn't think
• 37:34
  comparatively speaking.
• 37:35
  I didn't think he was great, but he I was happier of that
• 37:38
  version.
• 37:38
  I yeah, it was it was a rough time.
• 37:40
  So I'm very appreciative of LeBron and I'm not against him
• 37:45
  coming back, but I'm also aware there might be there might
• 37:49
  just be a different future without him.
• 37:52
  And I understand that and I I think that's I think that's
• 37:54
  valid.
• 37:55
  I just don't I the we're about to find out how good Rob
• 37:58
  Polank is.
• 37:58
  How about that or how shitty Rob Polank is?
• 38:01
  How about that?
• 38:01
  I think we might know that but that's not that's neither here
• 38:04
  nor there the before we move on from that there are and there's
• 38:09
  a new suitor emerged as sell this continue to put Jalen Brown
• 38:12
  on the tripod this time this time and it's this is rough.
• 38:17
  It is the trailblazers.
• 38:20
  Oh, fuck that.
• 38:21
  No, no, no, no.
• 38:21
  Come come come to Lake Lakers throw every throw whatever you
• 38:24
  got at them.
• 38:25
  Fuck it.
• 38:26
  Let LeBron go and let's go get Jalen Brown.
• 38:29
  So this is the thing is like there are certain Jalen Brown
• 38:32
  is not a player that you send to like wallow in Portland.
• 38:37
  Well, they did this good job today.
• 38:39
  Portland.
• 38:40
  Yeah, right.
• 38:41
  But like jaw you want to make Jalen deal with jaw.
• 38:45
  What do you what do you try to do?
• 38:47
  Maybe he can't get in trouble in Portland.
• 38:49
  Well, I mean, it's too weird for I'll tell you right now.
• 38:51
  If he's going to get in trouble, it's going to be with Jalen
• 38:53
  Brown.
• 38:56
  Oh, yeah.
• 38:56
  No.
• 38:57
  No, what I'm saying is he'll be like Jalen Jalen's like a
• 39:00
  angry dad compared to Jalen.
• 39:02
  So like here's the thing.
• 39:03
  Have you been watching some of his stuff lately?
• 39:05
  Jalen Brown's never heard of him.
• 39:09
  I'm talking.
• 39:09
  I'm not talking about a streaming.
• 39:11
  I'm talking specifically.
• 39:12
  Have you seen he recently was in Morocco.
• 39:14
  Yeah, that was a really Jalen Brown's a different cat.
• 39:19
  He's incredibly like like bookish and worldly like he there's
• 39:24
  a lot of interest that he has.
• 39:26
  He's a different cat and he loves to explore certain the
• 39:30
  world's philosophical concepts.
• 39:32
  Like he's a bookish nerdy guy and hello.
• 39:36
  I mean, he's a little bit ideological and he's a little
• 39:38
  bit egotistical.
• 39:40
  Yeah, but I like him like a lot.
• 39:42
  You know who you know who was like that fucking Kobe.
• 39:45
  I know Kobe was a fucking like he goes to school analytical, but
• 39:50
  he was worldly and book smart and like spoke all these languages
• 39:54
  and like kind of thought of himself as like a little bit of a
• 39:56
  Renaissance man and he was I mean that wasn't he was and and
• 40:02
  people loved it and hated it about him.
• 40:05
  But at the end of the day, it was part of it was part of me
• 40:08
  what made him so like cool and interesting.
• 40:10
  I'm glad you actually made that comparison because everyone
• 40:12
  you know how Tatum talks about how his guy but really the guy
• 40:15
  that's most like Kobe is Jalen Brown.
• 40:17
  Yeah, like a lot.
• 40:18
  That's a great read on.
• 40:19
  He just doesn't like try to kill his own teammates on the court,
• 40:21
  but that's that's a that's a mamba mentality.
• 40:23
  That's the mamba's of it.
• 40:25
  Well, yeah, it's not over yet.
• 40:26
  It won't it will never be Jason.
• 40:28
  That's I just I I will tell you this entire experience over this
• 40:32
  last three months of how your team and your guys have treated
• 40:35
  Jalen Brown and how I've watched now certain dipshits in the
• 40:39
  media try really hard to Mafioso Jalen Brown has only made me
• 40:44
  truly not only appreciate Jalen Brown more than I already did
• 40:48
  maybe go like it's making me root for this guy more than
• 40:51
  organizations and conglomerates combined.
• 40:54
  Yeah, I I really want Jalen Brown to fucking succeed in the
• 40:59
  worst.
• 41:00
  What do you want to do?
• 41:01
  I'm gonna sneak in another little mini media story here regarding
• 41:03
  Jalen Brown because I talked about this too is did you see Bobby
• 41:06
  Marx said on a radio show on Sirius XM.
• 41:10
  No, he reported that he talked to an NBA analytics guy one NBA
• 41:15
  analytics guy who said that according to the numbers Jalen Brown
• 41:19
  would be the seventh best player on any NBA team.
• 41:22
  And what yeah, and he went on to onto this Sirius XM and on the
• 41:29
  Sirius XM NBA show and said this and he was like so he reports
• 41:34
  this and then he says, you know, I disagree with this.
• 41:37
  I'm an NBA eye test guy.
• 41:38
  I think Jalen Brown's a top 10 player championship Keller blah
• 41:41
  blah blah blah right as if that's a fucking hot take the dude
• 41:44
  has an NBA finals MVP and here's you can tell me if I'm if you
• 41:49
  I'm not wrong, but you can tell me if you disagree with me.
• 41:52
  You can tell me if you're wrong.
• 41:57
  Tell me if you're wrong.
• 42:00
  Dude t-shirt.
• 42:01
  Tell me if you're wrong.
• 42:03
  We're making the come on.
• 42:08
  I said listen like you you simply journalistically do not
• 42:12
  go on to a radio show when there's a ton of misinformation
• 42:16
  and stuff around a player like this and say one NBA analytics
• 42:21
  guy said this one thing about Jalen Brown and so I'm going
• 42:25
  to tell you it and then defend it and then if you are going
• 42:28
  to do that because it's bad journalism and not everything
• 42:30
  that are every random person tells you is fucking journalism.
• 42:33
  You don't have to report everything one random guy on the
• 42:36
  trailblazers told you but like if you are going to do that
• 42:38
  what you do need to do is explain that analytics in that
• 42:42
  way can't be used to rank players one through seven on a
• 42:45
  goddamn Ross.
• 42:46
  You're I like about analytics nothing.
• 42:48
  No.
• 42:49
  No, I actually analytics.
• 42:50
  No, I like analytics.
• 42:51
  Analytics is been bastardized and bastardized and so many
• 42:56
  ways because here's the truth and this is 100% the truth.
• 43:00
  Based on analytics by the way, the phrase analytics doesn't
• 43:03
  mean anything numbers are numbers numbers are finite.
• 43:07
  You can't you can't change numbers.
• 43:09
  You can however combine and manipulate numbers to paint
• 43:13
  a false narrative really easily and it's not hard to do
• 43:17
  themselves are just like you're saying.
• 43:19
  They're just numbers.
• 43:20
  We put this we put this through an algorithm through an equation.
• 43:23
  Yes.
• 43:23
  This is the number it spit out.
• 43:24
  It's time for you guys decide what it means.
• 43:26
  Yes, you can interpret some numbers very wrong really easily.
• 43:31
  It's and we do you and all the time you're guilty of it.
• 43:34
  I'm guilty of it.
• 43:35
  You have to be really careful not to put confirmation bias
• 43:38
  into numbers all the time.
• 43:39
  It's almost impossible unless you are constantly aware of
• 43:43
  what the bias might be completely agree.
• 43:46
  I don't know what to say when people say the analytics say
• 43:51
  I usually turn them out immediately because you don't go
• 43:55
  on the radio and report what one random guy said to you
• 43:57
  as if it was as a person that's been on the radio now for
• 44:01
  I'm going to count the years officially like officially
• 44:03
  officially hosting my own shows from massive paid conglomerates.
• 44:09
  Eight years before that worked at Odyssey while playing
• 44:12
  for the Padres and Royals during the off seasons before
• 44:15
  that was just a caller and radio shows.
• 44:20
  I have been at least a paid member of the media while playing
• 44:24
  for about 15 years roughly.
• 44:27
  The idea of going on the radio and not one breaking down
• 44:32
  what the analytics are quote-unquote and then explaining
• 44:35
  why I disagree with them rather than just blankedly saying
• 44:38
  I think he's top 10.
• 44:39
  I disagree is just one to say it's irresponsible is a waste
• 44:45
  of my time.
• 44:46
  It is irresponsible and stupid.
• 44:48
  It's also just bad fucking radio.
• 44:51
  If anyone say the analytics say this what analytics which
• 44:55
  analytics?
• 44:55
  How are you applying said analytics explain the analytics
• 44:58
  analytics means numbers.
• 45:00
  So what are you fucking talking about?
• 45:03
  What numbers and how are they applied?
• 45:04
  It give you the context.
• 45:05
  He did say what the numbers were that he was using to decide
• 45:09
  that and it was like his it was really out of context plus
• 45:15
  minus versus loss.
• 45:18
  Oh, it was bad.
• 45:19
  It was bad shit.
• 45:20
  It was nice.
• 45:21
  He's a one of five players on the team.
• 45:23
  You can't know it was a public placement is a is also by the
• 45:26
  way, it's helpful, but it's also a lofty lofty stack.
• 45:30
  Also, I've always said this wins above replacement is a career
• 45:35
  stat.
• 45:36
  Yes, it tells you it paints a picture over 10 to 15 to 20
• 45:40
  years.
• 45:41
  It is not something where you can use these types of analytics
• 45:44
  in game by game or season to season in it in large part due
• 45:48
  to the fact that like it cannot be a snapshot of an individual's
• 45:52
  like impact and you know, like it's like we know the impact
• 45:57
  of Jalen Brown.
• 45:58
  He was so like I was really I guess I'll just say I was just
• 46:00
  really frustrated with Bobby Marks being like, well, you
• 46:03
  know, of course I I disagree with this like bitch, of course
• 46:06
  you fucking disagree with it.
• 46:08
  He was the NBA Finals MVP like you're not the hero for reporting
• 46:13
  something that shouldn't have been reported and then being
• 46:15
  like but I'm going to dispute it because I actually think he's
• 46:17
  a championship caliber player.
• 46:19
  No, you don't think that he is you're a fucking asshole and
• 46:23
  like he's probably a really nice guy quite honestly, but like
• 46:25
  these guys will go on television and radio and say anything
• 46:29
  and then be like I'm about to be the hero by disagreeing with
• 46:32
  the analytics guy.
• 46:32
  You didn't know who did you would never have known said this
• 46:35
  unless I told you and also who's the also like me blanketly
• 46:40
  saying a random guy that works that does or doesn't exist.
• 46:43
  I didn't say who it was.
• 46:44
  I didn't say the team.
• 46:45
  So so you just went basically you painted yourself to be a
• 46:48
  hero.
• 46:49
  Yeah based on information that is unverified.
• 46:52
  Yeah, I'm substantial.
• 46:54
  I forgot to tell you the best part Jalen Brown gets on and
• 46:57
  he sees the report and he pops back on Twitter.
• 47:00
  He's like like we're turning analytics is turning us into
• 47:03
  AI ball.
• 47:03
  This is bullshit basically was like called out Bobby Marks
• 47:06
  for even talking about it and Bobby got all defensive and
• 47:09
  was like I was just saying what I was told I was defending
• 47:13
  you know, and then Brian whatever the fuck his name is.
• 47:16
  He was hosting.
• 47:17
  It was like actually he was like he was just repeating what
• 47:20
  someone else said.
• 47:21
  Uh-uh.
• 47:22
  No, you deserve all the smoke that you just got from Jalen
• 47:24
  Brown because you you know, it's going to happen you Cody,
• 47:26
  you know this as good as I do for the next 10 years.
• 47:30
  We're going to get 55 fucking anonymous commenters on every
• 47:34
  post we ever make about Jalen Brown where they say he's
• 47:37
  basically only the seventh best player on an NBA team.
• 47:39
  So, you know, there's a way to do this.
• 47:41
  There is a way to do this, but you have to open up with this
• 47:43
  trace. If I were to do this exact thing, if I talked to a
• 47:46
  guy in the front office, I'd be like did you won't believe
• 47:48
  what some fucking guy told me today some fucking random
• 47:51
  guy some guy and I'll tell you he works in the league and
• 47:54
  that concerns me because this is his assessment.
• 47:57
  He brought out numbers and these numbers all freely admitted.
• 48:01
  It's an aggregate that he brought out.
• 48:02
  I assume he pulled it out of his ass, but he tried to make
• 48:05
  this argument to me and I normally I would have definitely
• 48:08
  agree with him because he's the expert right that he's the
• 48:11
  seventh best player in every fucking team.
• 48:12
  I cannot stress enough how insane this sounds to be.
• 48:15
  So I asked him to show me the numbers.
• 48:16
  I'm like, okay, that's interesting.
• 48:17
  But also yeah, this math ain't fucking mathic Jalen Brown's
• 48:21
  a fucking finals MVP and a championship champion.
• 48:24
  What are we fucking talking about here?
• 48:25
  Well, so that's that's how you can present that and then
• 48:28
  it's over.
• 48:29
  I mean and to be quite honest, but even that that's not even
• 48:33
  a conversation.
• 48:33
  I'm not even gonna lie even then it would be sort of
• 48:36
  journalistically unethical because at the end of the day
• 48:39
  unless you've heard if you started here if you that guy
• 48:42
  said that but then like two or three other guys said it you'd
• 48:46
  heard murmurings.
• 48:47
  You're like so this guy said this and I've actually heard
• 48:49
  a couple guys other guys from different analytics teams say
• 48:51
  that and I don't understand where they're coming from that
• 48:53
  right there that right there.
• 48:55
  You can report but like one guy one random guy crazy, but
• 48:59
  if I heard it three more times then then the conversation
• 49:01
  would start be like, okay now I've heard it three times.
• 49:03
  Now.
• 49:03
  Here's the thing.
• 49:03
  I still think this is batshit insane, but that being said to
• 49:06
  be these weird with what I want around the league.
• 49:09
  Yes around this but you know what and here's the thing but
• 49:11
  then my question isn't going to be show me the numbers.
• 49:14
  My question is going to be simply this why are these being
• 49:18
  why is this being said?
• 49:20
  Yeah, because if the numbers were really there we'd all see
• 49:25
  the number so you can tell me if you agree with the my
• 49:27
  conclusion that I made in the video, which was that my
• 49:29
  conclusion is that that we treat analytics as a juxtaposing
• 49:34
  force to the eye test.
• 49:35
  Yes, they do.
• 49:36
  They are not juxtaposing and they are not mutually exclusive.
• 49:39
  The reason we think they are is because we constantly use
• 49:41
  analytics the wrong way if they are being used and applied
• 49:44
  the right way the the eye test and analytics create the same
• 49:50
  story in the same narrative.
• 49:51
  They should be symbiotic.
• 49:53
  They're symbiotic and they there may be different things
• 49:55
  that we get from each one but because we misapply and misuse
• 49:59
  the numbers we think that they are antithetical if the numbers
• 50:03
  are antithetical to what you are seeing if that guy if whatever
• 50:06
  those numbers that guy pulled said Jalen Brown was the seventh
• 50:09
  best player on a roster.
• 50:11
  What should have happened in any smart and this is as this
• 50:14
  is for analytics and statisticians anybody with that job should
• 50:18
  have looked at it and said the this is this is a flawed metric
• 50:23
  to measure his input.
• 50:25
  We should not use it.
• 50:27
  That's what he should have decided.
• 50:28
  But instead he decided to do the opposite.
• 50:31
  That is a misapplication of the use of statistics and we do
• 50:34
  all those metrics.
• 50:35
  We do all the time.
• 50:35
  And that's why we think that they are a that they are an
• 50:38
  antagonistic force to the eye test.
• 50:42
  They're not and they never should be and when they are you
• 50:45
  need to slow down, you know, why though there's a reason it's
• 50:50
  it's it's I hate this.
• 50:51
  This is actually my least favorite part of this entire conversation.
• 50:55
  No, no, not you.
• 50:56
  Not the conversation.
• 50:57
  It's just the harsh reality.
• 50:59
  Okay, analytics were introduced in the game for a very specific
• 51:03
  reason and I don't think it was to make the game better.
• 51:05
  It was one to make the game more affordable and save money.
• 51:09
  The people that they brought in are not sports people.
• 51:11
  They're just money people who can't look at a player and
• 51:14
  understand why they're doing it.
• 51:16
  I mean baseball is really baseball is actually the original
• 51:19
  culprit of this entire conversation.
• 51:21
  It's all your fault.
• 51:22
  It kind of is.
• 51:22
  The analytics were almost a way to disprove that people were
• 51:28
  good.
• 51:29
  Yeah, that's why they were introduced money ball was not created
• 51:32
  to make a team better money ball was created to make a team
• 51:36
  more financially viable.
• 51:37
  And by the way, that's why it was created by the way.
• 51:39
  Great thing about money ball.
• 51:40
  I just saw to talk about this lesson.
• 51:42
  I'm glad you I'm glad you know this tick-tock.
• 51:43
  I have a feeling.
• 51:44
  I know exactly what this tick-tock is.
• 51:45
  Yeah.
• 51:46
  Did you also know this because I know that I've known this for
• 51:48
  years.
• 51:48
  I say my thing to make it sound cool on air.
• 51:50
  Yes.
• 51:50
  Okay, great thing about money ball.
• 51:53
  Why you love the movie so much is because it perfectly and
• 51:58
  purposely decided not to tell you that there are a bunch of
• 52:00
  really fucking famous superstar high-level players on that
• 52:05
  team that they left completely out of the story because it
• 52:07
  would have undermined the entire premise exactly money ball
• 52:12
  the movie which I fucking love everybody loves it great movie
• 52:16
  written by Aaron Sorkin.
• 52:17
  It's a little bit is such a fucking lie.
• 52:21
  It's a lie.
• 52:22
  I don't know what to do with myself.
• 52:25
  It's a lie that team had the NAL MVP Miguel Tejada on it that
• 52:31
  team had David Justice who they really worked really hard to
• 52:34
  make up out like he was some washed up has been crazy.
• 52:39
  They had David Justice.
• 52:40
  They had Miguel Tejada the league MVP.
• 52:44
  They had Eric Chavez who was a runner-up for the league MVP
• 52:47
  they had Eric fucking Burns in center field and they had
• 52:52
  Barry Zito the Cy Young Award winner Mark Mulder the follow
• 52:57
  the runner-up and the Cy Young Award award and Tim Hudson the
• 53:02
  other runner-up in the fucking Cy Young Award.
• 53:06
  How often were these names mentioned in the movie fucking
• 53:09
  zero?
• 53:10
  I cannot strip that movie truly made you believe that Scott
• 53:15
  Hattaberg carried that team for 20 wins crazy.
• 53:18
  By the way, Scott Hattaberg was a good ballplayer.
• 53:21
  He's not why they fucking were good the fuck was this movie
• 53:25
  it was as realistic as like draft day.
• 53:27
  I cannot stress enough Moneyball is the greatest lie that sports
• 53:32
  ever happened except for one thing.
• 53:34
  There's one line in Moneyball that was the one you love this
• 53:39
  you love to whip out a movie like one biggest truth that has
• 53:42
  ever been and it was when Tom Warner the owner of the Red Sox
• 53:46
  is meeting with Billy Bean you won the same amount of games
• 53:49
  as the New York Yankees and you spent 1 6th of their payroll.
• 53:54
  Yeah, that's what Moneyball is fucking figure it out people.
• 54:03
  Thank you.
• 54:04
  I'm glad we both saw that tick-tock and were activated by it.
• 54:07
  So I you would have actually you would have had like I've been
• 54:10
  saying this for years.
• 54:10
  I'm glad someone finally made a tick-tock about it.
• 54:12
  I definitely think you would have been like sexually attracted
• 54:14
  to Chris in this moment because I opened up the tick-tock and
• 54:16
  he heard it and he was like he started rattling off all the
• 54:19
  names that the guy was just about to say and I was like Moneyball
• 54:23
  is the greatest lie really like analytics.
• 54:26
  I've been thinking about this for you guys.
• 54:29
  That's why when people say the word analytics tune them out.
• 54:32
  They're not talking about analytics.
• 54:33
  They are it's pseudoscience is right analytics are we should
• 54:38
  just wrap this up by saying the best way to use analytics
• 54:41
  legitimately is for in-game probabilities for potential roster
• 54:45
  building.
• 54:45
  What are things going like what's going to make this system
• 54:47
  work the best?
• 54:48
  What kind of players going to make this all of the above and
• 54:51
  then as a like broad retrospective on where specific players
• 54:56
  match up across a career 100% that's it.
• 54:59
  That's literally fucking it nothing else.
• 55:01
  They're just hard numbers to help you make rational baseball
• 55:05
  basketball football decisions.
• 55:07
  That's what the analytics are the analytics are not about
• 55:11
  creating an aggregate to build a team.
• 55:14
  That's yeah, you use them, but there's also human error involved
• 55:19
  which by the way is roughly 75% of it like and like the analytics
• 55:23
  could tell you one point guard is better for a specific system
• 55:26
  than another but they can't tell you if that point guards going
• 55:28
  to get along with their teammates or how they're going to work
• 55:31
  with within a specific.
• 55:32
  You know exact same argument of having with people the Dodgers
• 55:35
  win because they spend money.
• 55:37
  No, no, I we talk about this.
• 55:38
  No, if you watch our show, you are just not smart enough and
• 55:41
  that's and I think that that's like that disconnect is really
• 55:46
  is is the toughest part because it's like hey, if the analytics
• 55:50
  tell you to go forward on fourth down, I feel you I understand
• 55:53
  that I get it.
• 55:53
  There's also times where you should ignore that by the way
• 55:55
  because you might not have the right guys there might have
• 55:58
  the right play and there are certain times where that is where
• 56:00
  somebody should be like genuinely ignore that but I'm glad
• 56:02
  you have it and the analytics cannot tell you they cannot
• 56:06
  tell you that miles Garrett having 21 sacks in a season.
• 56:13
  Wasn't actually that good also by the way, it's will never
• 56:16
  tell you that anything that tells you miles Garrett's actually
• 56:20
  overrated is not right.
• 56:23
  Yes, that's just not right.
• 56:25
  You want to know why because at the end of the day the outcome
• 56:28
  of a game the outcome of a player's output is is already there.
• 56:33
  We already know it.
• 56:35
  You can't tell me Jalen Brown didn't have a an impact on a
• 56:39
  game.
• 56:39
  I watched we don't have if it if the if the analytics tell you
• 56:44
  that miles Garrett's overrated you're reading the numbers
• 56:48
  wrong, by the way, it's a side notes.
• 56:50
  What what analytics have exist about how I physically feel
• 56:54
  in a particular game match anything say miles Garrett has
• 56:58
  a mildly tweaked hammy there are no analytics and maybe he
• 57:01
  hasn't even told anybody I didn't play a single game last
• 57:04
  eight of my years of my career where I wasn't in physical
• 57:07
  pain like you guys just don't know how much pain it's also
• 57:10
  just like there is a time and a place.
• 57:13
  There's a time and a place for this later on when you when
• 57:15
  you decide to tell me whether or not miles Garrett was better
• 57:18
  than like Reggie white or something.
• 57:20
  Okay, let's start looking at some numbers.
• 57:22
  We can run numbers.
• 57:23
  I would like to do that with but then we all see in a separate
• 57:25
  conversations about eras and we're going to talk about what
• 57:28
  what divisions they played in and yeah, exactly what quarterbacks
• 57:31
  were they facing and we're going to add it all up, but I do
• 57:33
  not no, no, no, no, honey.
• 57:35
  We didn't need that.
• 57:36
  We don't need numbers to tell me if miles Garrett's as good
• 57:38
  as we think.
• 57:39
  Thank you so much.
• 57:39
  Sorry.
• 57:39
  I have eyeballs.
• 57:40
  I can see how fucking good he is and also 21 sacks just didn't
• 57:44
  materialize.
• 57:45
  So yeah, that's it's it's a massive gripe in all the sports
• 57:48
  and yeah, you know what baseball is very much to blame for it.
• 57:51
  We we did it first and we are yapping so much.
• 57:54
  Okay.
• 57:54
  I do want to say this so headline to a three or whatever the
• 57:58
  fuck it is at this point.
• 58:00
  This is so quick, but I did want to say that I have a hot take
• 58:04
  about so the CFL is not going to allow its teams to sign Brendan
• 58:07
  Soresby in 2026.
• 58:08
  So this is the guy who was caught gambling $91,000 in college
• 58:13
  specifically while I was at Indiana got a wonderful Texas Tech
• 58:18
  probably paid judge to go ahead and give him a two game suspension
• 58:23
  which is not how any of this shit fucking works and everyone
• 58:27
  the people that are defending him or yelling.
• 58:29
  What about a second chance of which I've been saying over and
• 58:31
  over again.
• 58:32
  He's not in fucking prison.
• 58:33
  That's his second chance.
• 58:34
  Yeah second chance doesn't mean he gets to play sports where
• 58:37
  he affects the integrity of the fucking game.
• 58:39
  Also potentially the physical lives of his fucking teammates
• 58:43
  correct.
• 58:44
  And that's where my hot take comes in.
• 58:47
  I think that all these leagues who have gambling partnerships
• 58:53
  are like essentially jumping at the chance to use Brendan Soresby
• 59:00
  to clean their image up.
• 59:02
  Oh, yeah, they are and I think it's really interesting to watch
• 59:06
  because two wrongs don't make a right, you know, it's a very
• 59:08
  it's a very feel bad for the kid on that learned about this
• 59:10
  when we were little kids two wrongs don't make a right and
• 59:13
  the reality is Soresby doesn't need to be playing football,
• 59:16
  but I don't like them using him to sanitize their image and
• 59:19
  I find that really frustrating because I'm watching and they're
• 59:22
  like, oh we couldn't possibly sign a cheater.
• 59:28
  That is a very good thing.
• 59:29
  They are so excited.
• 59:31
  They're so happy that they got a gambler.
• 59:34
  They're so happy that they could use to sanitize their image
• 59:38
  just to give you a little extra.
• 59:39
  They're even more happy but with the same week they get to
• 59:41
  announce this as the same week as the Malik Beasley fucking
• 59:44
  trial is being this is all happening in one week period.
• 59:48
  See see how good we are.
• 59:50
  We're getting the NBA guy.
• 59:52
  We're not letting the football player.
• 59:53
  We got this.
• 59:55
  I'm shocked at the Cleveland Guardian thing hasn't been
• 59:57
  announced in the last three days to wait next week.
• 59:59
  I guarantee you in the next week.
• 1:00:00
  You're going to get that over there with the pitchers with
• 1:00:02
  the pitchers who got caught in baseball.
• 1:00:04
  Yeah.
• 1:00:04
  Oh, they're going to compile it all together.
• 1:00:06
  Major League Baseball is the good guy NFL is the good guy and
• 1:00:10
  the NBA is the good guy.
• 1:00:12
  All dude see the gambling apps are working.
• 1:00:15
  Yeah, it's working.
• 1:00:16
  Yeah, it's all working.
• 1:00:17
  There's nothing wrong on.
• 1:00:19
  Oh, you're so ethical.
• 1:00:21
  Dude.
• 1:00:21
  We got so we got this catch, you know, so that was I just had
• 1:00:27
  to name it because it's driving me nuts and also of course,
• 1:00:30
  you know, like we both agree on the other thing to like, you
• 1:00:32
  know, don't I don't need you to play playing football.
• 1:00:34
  He shouldn't be playing football.
• 1:00:35
  That is correct.
• 1:00:36
  That is the correct thing, but they're not do it.
• 1:00:38
  They don't care that Brendan Soresby could be a danger to
• 1:00:41
  anybody.
• 1:00:41
  They're not the good guys.
• 1:00:42
  Yeah.
• 1:00:42
  No.
• 1:00:43
  Oh, and by the way, I do think I that now is a good time to
• 1:00:46
  remind people that the NFL is like a sport that really wreaks
• 1:00:51
  Havoc on its players that lasts for lifetimes for an entire
• 1:00:56
  lifetime that affects families and Chris Johnson was he came
• 1:01:02
  on and announced that he has ALS.
• 1:01:04
  He saw that I saw that really and that is almost impossibly
• 1:01:09
  not related to playing football.
• 1:01:12
  Iconically one of the fastest players we ever saw the position
• 1:01:16
  iconic Titan and he plans on fighting it and I think it's
• 1:01:20
  just like another reminder that it's like this this sanitization
• 1:01:24
  and whitewashing of the things that they allow into the leagues
• 1:01:27
  into football specifically the NFL the CFL to the the stuff
• 1:01:32
  that they allow to happen to these players and they stuff
• 1:01:34
  that they let them get away with it, right like so both what
• 1:01:37
  happens to them the CTE of it all the the brain trauma of it
• 1:01:41
  all the body is being broken.
• 1:01:43
  Like you were saying your body just playing baseball was broken
• 1:01:45
  to hell after a decade.
• 1:01:47
  No, no, you don't seem to understand.
• 1:01:48
  I'm like, I try to tell people this all the time.
• 1:01:51
  Like I work out a lot like I work out a lot and keep myself
• 1:01:53
  in as good a shape as I humanly can and the reason why I do
• 1:01:57
  it is a couple of reasons one.
• 1:01:59
  It's routine.
• 1:02:00
  That's what I like it.
• 1:02:01
  I want to help.
• 1:02:02
  I want to stay in shape, but there's also an aspect that I
• 1:02:05
  I am very legitimately and I'm not kidding.
• 1:02:08
  This is I don't need anybody sympathy.
• 1:02:09
  I did it to myself.
• 1:02:11
  I am constantly in pain.
• 1:02:12
  Yeah, like there is not a moment.
• 1:02:14
  I'm not in physical pain.
• 1:02:15
  Yeah, my right hip is fucked.
• 1:02:17
  I have calcium deposits my right ankle and deficiency my right
• 1:02:21
  ankle that I can't flex my right ankle at all.
• 1:02:25
  I have a tear in my UCL that I never got fixed.
• 1:02:28
  I have three tears in my rotator cuff.
• 1:02:30
  I have a tear in my labrum.
• 1:02:32
  I'm just normal better and it's funny is all those injuries.
• 1:02:35
  I just mentioned are not even the most painful things.
• 1:02:38
  Those are the tears and broken things in me physically.
• 1:02:41
  I have a torn labrum in my hip.
• 1:02:43
  That's awful.
• 1:02:44
  It hurts all the time.
• 1:02:45
  I have to just do the best I can constantly stretch it constantly
• 1:02:49
  build around it.
• 1:02:50
  So I'm always doing certain exercise my hands and my feet at
• 1:02:55
  all times are in pain at all time.
• 1:02:57
  If I really sit here and stop to think my hands are killing
• 1:03:00
  I'm just kind of gotten numb and desensitized to it over years.
• 1:03:03
  I'm like way too empathetic for this.
• 1:03:05
  This is gonna make me cry.
• 1:03:06
  Oh, no, no, don't be I'm used to it.
• 1:03:08
  No, I got to do a lot of things and by the way, I'm like, I'm
• 1:03:14
  in a lot of pain at all times and I'm one of the healthiest
• 1:03:19
  guys.
• 1:03:20
  I know out of it.
• 1:03:21
  Yeah, I didn't get any major surgeries probably should have
• 1:03:23
  all my ankle to be honest.
• 1:03:25
  Clearly, I can't fucking bend it.
• 1:03:27
  My UCL and my elbow is fine.
• 1:03:29
  It's not a big deal.
• 1:03:30
  It's only 40% selling it now.
• 1:03:32
  I'm fine.
• 1:03:34
  And luckily my shoulder doesn't cause me a ton of issues.
• 1:03:37
  It really doesn't.
• 1:03:37
  It's not noticeable.
• 1:03:39
  Sure, but my hands hurt all the time from years of catching
• 1:03:42
  and throwing and yeah, I guess your hand constantly being a
• 1:03:46
  flex position.
• 1:03:47
  These hurt all the time.
• 1:03:48
  My feet hurt all the time from years wearing spikes like just
• 1:03:52
  they hurt.
• 1:03:53
  I never thought really like no one's ever really talked about
• 1:03:56
  that aspect of like what Cleet constantly wearing spikes would
• 1:03:59
  do to your feet.
• 1:04:00
  I've never thought I wore different brands to like some spikes
• 1:04:03
  were better than others.
• 1:04:04
  I bet they're better now than they ever were before but you
• 1:04:07
  know, I'll give like not that it matters.
• 1:04:09
  Not like Adidas is going to make more money because I'm saying
• 1:04:11
  this.
• 1:04:11
  I I had a Reebok deal for a couple years and they were awesome.
• 1:04:16
  I had the years of the Ziggs the most to this day the most
• 1:04:20
  comfortable spike I ever wore in my life.
• 1:04:23
  And then they gave up on baseball and I couldn't wear them
• 1:04:27
  anymore.
• 1:04:27
  Then I got a deal with Adidas and the deed is made really good
• 1:04:30
  spike.
• 1:04:30
  Okay, but I went to a couple of lower brands and not as great.
• 1:04:35
  They were fine.
• 1:04:36
  And that's the reason Cody's in pain all the time.
• 1:04:38
  Thanks for nothing.
• 1:04:39
  I am never fine.
• 1:04:40
  Well, so yeah, I just wanted to make that nice.
• 1:04:43
  They painted them.
• 1:04:43
  We are rooting for Chris Johnson.
• 1:04:46
  We are and that was I cried this morning watching this video
• 1:04:51
  I just I have a lot of like I cried everything actually everybody
• 1:04:55
  thinks I'm like a an absolute fucking hard-ass literally the
• 1:04:59
  softest person alive.
• 1:05:00
  I just have a hard exterior much like a a tortoise or of some
• 1:05:05
  sort, you know, but inside it's soft and old and wrinkly and
• 1:05:08
  that's me I so we have an option here because we have we have
• 1:05:14
  time for one more segment before we get to pop culture.
• 1:05:16
  Yeah, so you get to decide we can talk more about the
• 1:05:20
  a couple of ML MLB things that are happening in the CBA or we
• 1:05:25
  can talk about Emanuel Ocho saying the WNBA would be better off
• 1:05:28
  without Caitlin Clark.
• 1:05:31
  Both different vibes we've done a lot of you know, are they
• 1:05:35
  different vibes?
• 1:05:36
  How about this?
• 1:05:38
  I'd rather talk about Caitlin Clark today and I'll tell you why
• 1:05:41
  I feel like we've hit a little bit on the CBA and what what is
• 1:05:44
  happening so we will hold off because more is going to come
• 1:05:47
  It's not the biggest development.
• 1:05:49
  No, it's how about this Major League Baseball is incredibly
• 1:05:52
  evil and they're doing very evil shit and we're going to keep
• 1:05:55
  you in the loop and you guys should really every time that
• 1:05:57
  the players is so that it's every time that they Major League
• 1:06:00
  Baseball owners send out a proposal.
• 1:06:02
  You should fucking set it on fire and pretend it didn't happen
• 1:06:06
  because they're evil.
• 1:06:08
  I want to make this abundantly clear.
• 1:06:10
  These proposals are evil.
• 1:06:12
  They're so gross and evil.
• 1:06:13
  We will discuss on a later date because they're going to make
• 1:06:16
  more gross and disgusting and evil fucking proposals right
• 1:06:20
  now.
• 1:06:20
  Let's talk about Caitlin Clark is this is funny.
• 1:06:22
  Yeah, this is interesting.
• 1:06:23
  So Emmanuel Ocho has said yesterday.
• 1:06:29
  We were one of the few outlets that called looking for a quote.
• 1:06:32
  We couldn't even get a quote out of anybody's.
• 1:06:34
  Oh wait, this is not the run.
• 1:06:36
  How about this?
• 1:06:37
  This isn't the right thing.
• 1:06:39
  Okay.
• 1:06:39
  Well while you're doing this, let me the context of everything
• 1:06:41
  of course in case you guys have missed it.
• 1:06:42
  Caitlin Clark has been getting bullied in the WMBA.
• 1:06:45
  Yeah, he was quoting Dan Patrick.
• 1:06:47
  So what happened was like Dan Patrick revealed on his show that
• 1:06:51
  he could not get a quote from the WMBA after the whole Alyssa
• 1:06:54
  Thomas Caitlin Clark thing.
• 1:06:55
  So that whole thing happened.
• 1:06:57
  He was like, this is really like unprofessional of the WMBA was
• 1:07:01
  felt a little bit weird like okay, Dan Patrick.
• 1:07:03
  So you couldn't get a quote from WMBA.
• 1:07:04
  I didn't know you were reaching out for quotes all the time, but
• 1:07:06
  that's fine into that vacuum stepped Ocho who made the case on
• 1:07:10
  his speakeasy show that Clark has become more trouble for the WMBA
• 1:07:13
  than she's worth the W at this Junction in time would be better
• 1:07:16
  without Caitlin Clark because she is a bigger distraction than she
• 1:07:19
  is an additive Caitlin Clark has gotten the WMBA over the necessary
• 1:07:23
  threshold.
• 1:07:24
  They needed now people are watching now.
• 1:07:26
  We realize oh, there's talent in the W.
• 1:07:28
  There's talent.
• 1:07:29
  That's actually even greater than Caitlin Caitlin got the necessary
• 1:07:31
  eyes here.
• 1:07:32
  But now the eyes that the eyes are there.
• 1:07:34
  We don't necessarily need her anymore.
• 1:07:35
  Now, I I'm going to say this very specifically this.
• 1:07:41
  This is extremely misogynistic.
• 1:07:45
  It is so misogynistic that we cannot we cannot ignore this.
• 1:07:49
  The reality is Ocho has spent the last few years being racist and
• 1:07:55
  sexist to the black women in that League.
• 1:07:57
  He is occasionally given other players credit.
• 1:08:01
  He's given Kelsey Mitchell credit on the fever.
• 1:08:03
  He has said that that Caitlin Clark has to be more more physical and
• 1:08:08
  has to deal with the physicality and she has to improve her game and
• 1:08:10
  he has also said that essentially like, you know that he doesn't think
• 1:08:15
  that she is the reason for this but that his their fans are toxic.
• 1:08:18
  So by definition, but you are by comparison.
• 1:08:21
  He's not the worst person in mainstream media.
• 1:08:24
  That's been talking about Caitlin Clark, but he is not the bar is in
• 1:08:27
  hell and he's barely clearing it.
• 1:08:29
  So here's the thing.
• 1:08:30
  This shit the idea I has anybody in your life critiqued Caitlin Clark
• 1:08:36
  more than I have no probably not at the end of the day.
• 1:08:39
  This bullshit is so misogynistic and so pathetic and the idea that he
• 1:08:43
  finally appreciates the W enough that he doesn't need Caitlin Clark because
• 1:08:46
  she's a distraction means that rather than dealing with exactly what it is.
• 1:08:51
  That's making Caitlin Clark such a polarizing figure.
• 1:08:53
  He'd rather not deal with it because you know what would happen if he had to
• 1:08:56
  deal with it.
• 1:08:56
  He'd have to recognize the fact that he's been fucking misogynistic to black
• 1:09:01
  women that he's been fucking sexist and misogynistic across the course of his
• 1:09:04
  career and he would have to understand exactly what the nuances are at play
• 1:09:08
  that make Caitlin such a polarizing figure to begin with but instead he
• 1:09:12
  would rather see Caitlin Clark ousted from the league, which is absolutely
• 1:09:18
  insane.
• 1:09:18
  It is nuts to me that someone would admit out loud.
• 1:09:21
  I'd rather this person not exist in the WN the NBA than for me to have to
• 1:09:25
  deal with the nuance of exactly what her presence in it and and her polarizing
• 1:09:31
  presence in the space means for not only basketball not only women's basketball
• 1:09:36
  not only fandom but for me as an analyst.
• 1:09:39
  I'd rather she be gone.
• 1:09:42
  I feel like I'm living in the dumbest fucking timeline that's ever could have
• 1:09:47
  existed.
• 1:09:48
  I don't know what happened to the world.
• 1:09:51
  We've always been like this.
• 1:09:52
  I guess so.
• 1:09:52
  I just have more mics.
• 1:09:53
  I guess so.
• 1:09:54
  We got more mics more cameras.
• 1:09:55
  We got mocha over there running the boards.
• 1:09:57
  Yeah, you know, everybody's got nothing that is.
• 1:09:59
  Yeah, nothing matters.
• 1:10:00
  Everybody's got a goddamn mocha and they think that they're out there saying
• 1:10:03
  the thing.
• 1:10:03
  So
• 1:10:07
  mocha does any of this shit make sense to you?
• 1:10:12
  No, thank you.
• 1:10:13
  Has it ever has it ever made sense to you?
• 1:10:17
  Yep.
• 1:10:17
  It never will.
• 1:10:19
  No mocha.
• 1:10:20
  Mocha is growing up in the darkest timeline.
• 1:10:22
  Yeah.
• 1:10:22
  Yes.
• 1:10:23
  Mocha is just about a decade younger than us.
• 1:10:25
  We live the life.
• 1:10:26
  We're shit almost in normal 90s.
• 1:10:29
  Like mocha doesn't really remember 9-11.
• 1:10:32
  Yeah, like he's living in the darkest timeline.
• 1:10:35
  Okay, you should have seen what we were like, like we were fucking great.
• 1:10:39
  We there was a time where we're great.
• 1:10:41
  It was the 90s.
• 1:10:42
  It was we were really great.
• 1:10:43
  We were so we were still everybody was still racist, but they weren't allowed
• 1:10:47
  to say it out loud about it.
• 1:10:50
  They fucking were hidden like neo-nazis are really shamed into a corner and
• 1:10:56
  they never came out.
• 1:10:57
  They were it was fucking great to be clear.
• 1:10:59
  They were hidden from fellow white people.
• 1:11:01
  The black people always knew they were that's fair and they should have
• 1:11:03
  fluid us in a little bit.
• 1:11:06
  Yeah, we did a lot of us didn't listen.
• 1:11:08
  You tell us some of us didn't listen very well.
• 1:11:10
  And I think about it.
• 1:11:11
  You're right.
• 1:11:12
  Here's the deal.
• 1:11:18
  I'm trying to think how I can really start this conversation.
• 1:11:21
  I think I started it.
• 1:11:21
  You just have to continue it.
• 1:11:25
  We are the dumbest fucks that ever existed when it comes specifically to
• 1:11:29
  Katelyn Clark and the W we truly cannot have a nuanced conversation about
• 1:11:35
  her.
• 1:11:37
  I don't I'm starting to actually ask why I really want to know.
• 1:11:42
  I'm at the point where like the racism of it in the misogynistic at nature
• 1:11:46
  of it at this point doesn't even make sense anymore because well, did it
• 1:11:50
  make sense before?
• 1:11:51
  No, no, no, like it's like because it was a part of it where this is like
• 1:11:54
  I always understood the races.
• 1:11:55
  Oh, no, it's because it like there's a weird Venn diagram.
• 1:11:58
  That's so weird because the people that fucking hate women's sports are in
• 1:12:01
  a very specific bubble right?
• 1:12:02
  Those same people love Katelyn Clark.
• 1:12:05
  That's fucking weird just to begin with just to begin with this doesn't make
• 1:12:10
  sense.
• 1:12:10
  So this part of the Venn diagram, which is just one fucking circle doesn't
• 1:12:14
  fucking make sense doesn't make sense.
• 1:12:17
  So it's the rest of the Venn diagram is over here bunch of fucking people
• 1:12:23
  love the W and then there's W this Venn diagram aspect that just doesn't like
• 1:12:27
  Katelyn Clark.
• 1:12:31
  But it's this part of the Venn diagram that really bothers me which one the
• 1:12:36
  one that doesn't like women at all, but likes Katelyn Clark.
• 1:12:40
  Oh, well, I mean, you know, I know but doesn't make sense because it's
• 1:12:45
  counterproductive counteractive to their initial point.
• 1:12:48
  Well, so the thing that is that is really gaslighting about bigotry is
• 1:12:53
  that it is inherently anti-intellectual but they're like picking something
• 1:12:57
  they're already on this one.
• 1:12:58
  You're never going to find a racist or a sexist that gives you a like normal
• 1:13:03
  and intellectual reason for it because it is by nature inherently anti-intellectual.
• 1:13:07
  But they're the same person.
• 1:13:09
  It's the same person though.
• 1:13:10
  What don't you understand about anti-intellectual?
• 1:13:11
  I know but it's the same person.
• 1:13:13
  Okay.
• 1:13:14
  Have you you've dealt with anti-Semitism?
• 1:13:16
  A lot.
• 1:13:17
  You understand how there's no intellectual.
• 1:13:20
  There's not there's when you deal with bigotry.
• 1:13:24
  There's not a reason for it.
• 1:13:26
  The people that are white knighting very specifically for Caitlin Clark
• 1:13:30
  like white knighting in a way where we're putting in fucking federal bills
• 1:13:33
  to protect the white girl who's being bullied in the WNBA because she's
• 1:13:38
  apparently the only white girl in the WNBA.
• 1:13:42
  She isn't.
• 1:13:45
  They hate her though because she's a woman.
• 1:13:50
  Right?
• 1:13:50
  That's sexist.
• 1:13:51
  That's misogyny.
• 1:13:52
  I know but they're also lover.
• 1:13:54
  Yeah, they also have like wives and daughters that they say.
• 1:13:57
  I am so I don't understand.
• 1:13:59
  I just how about it?
• 1:13:59
  I don't understand.
• 1:14:00
  You just don't understand the size.
• 1:14:01
  Don't understand this.
• 1:14:04
  Do you think every misogynist like doesn't have women that they supposedly
• 1:14:07
  claim?
• 1:14:08
  They love that's the whole insidiousness of it.
• 1:14:11
  I racist have black friends like you do know this the whole thing is that
• 1:14:16
  is it is an anti-intellectual exercise because realistically nobody can
• 1:14:21
  exist in a world where those two things could exist simultaneously unless
• 1:14:25
  you are being into intellectual unless you are like that's what bigotry is
• 1:14:30
  all these people who don't watch the W never watch the W and hate women's
• 1:14:34
  sports.
• 1:14:37
  Are the only ones that are in this camp.
• 1:14:40
  That's the thing that I just that's where I that's where I don't understand
• 1:14:43
  and then the idiots that are fucking see this group.
• 1:14:48
  They see this group because this group is loud.
• 1:14:51
  I don't think this group is even fucking that big.
• 1:14:53
  I think they're just the loudest ones.
• 1:14:55
  They're getting smaller.
• 1:14:56
  We talked about this and they're getting smaller by the fucking day, but
• 1:14:59
  they're still loud because I feel like they're pretty big because they did
• 1:15:03
  affect readings in some way they did.
• 1:15:04
  But now I feel like they're just loud and I feel like they're getting loud
• 1:15:08
  because they're going extinct.
• 1:15:09
  Yeah, so they're screaming out as they die out.
• 1:15:13
  Yeah falling into them, but the problem is there are people in this part of
• 1:15:16
  the Venn diagram who will entertain it because they'll put it on TV and get
• 1:15:21
  clicks and they're basically keeping these people resuscitated on life
• 1:15:27
  support.
• 1:15:27
  Yeah, and I fucking don't get it.
• 1:15:31
  I just don't get it.
• 1:15:33
  You want to know something crazy?
• 1:15:35
  You know who who turned tide who jumped ship on the Caitlin Clark bandwagon
• 1:15:39
  who's that who's who's turned on her and is sick of her shit.
• 1:15:43
  Jason Whitlock.
• 1:15:46
  So that is my theory about why we got this from Emanuel.
• 1:15:51
  I must be shifting.
• 1:15:53
  I think Emanuel Acho said one thing I can't do is be to the right and the
• 1:15:57
  extreme of Jason Whitlock.
• 1:15:59
  So it's now time for me to figure out how I can do this without actually
• 1:16:02
  apologizing to black women and so his his way of not apologizing to the
• 1:16:07
  black women.
• 1:16:07
  He was racist and sexist to was to say we got to get rid of Caitlin Clark
• 1:16:13
  rather than own his shit.
• 1:16:15
  I can't think of a more cowardly sports take in in recent memory.
• 1:16:22
  Guys, there is a realistic nature about Caitlin Clark.
• 1:16:25
  Here's the realistic nature.
• 1:16:26
  She came in at a massive boom.
• 1:16:28
  She came in with an outrageous an outrageous amount of momentum as being
• 1:16:32
  the best call one of if not the best college player at the time one of at
• 1:16:36
  the time she was the first one the first overall pick.
• 1:16:39
  Yeah.
• 1:16:39
  Yeah, absolutely and coming in to a massive boot and doing really good
• 1:16:43
  stuff and getting a lot of ratings.
• 1:16:45
  It was phenomenal stuff.
• 1:16:46
  And yes, it was must watch television.
• 1:16:48
  Yes, there were other stars that were in the league already and there have
• 1:16:51
  been other stars since that Caitlin Clark has been for the majority of
• 1:16:54
  the last two years injured.
• 1:16:55
  So we haven't seen a whole lot of Caitlin Clark in the last couple of
• 1:16:58
  years.
• 1:16:59
  I hope she lives up to the hype that she is playing plenty this year.
• 1:17:02
  She has been this year.
• 1:17:03
  Yes, that being said like the amount of overreaction to Caitlin Clark on
• 1:17:10
  every single aspect never has not made an ounce of sense to me.
• 1:17:15
  I've never really seen another player like get so much credit for just
• 1:17:18
  like be it's like yeah, yeah, she boosted the profile.
• 1:17:21
  I've I remember when player you they've talked a lot about like there
• 1:17:25
  are certain booms and busts.
• 1:17:26
  We've talked about this in MLB.
• 1:17:27
  Like there are certain players in in Major League Baseball that saved
• 1:17:30
  Major League Baseball ratings and save like after you know, a hundred
• 1:17:33
  years of existing by the way in the 90s.
• 1:17:36
  Those two players were Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa two guys who have
• 1:17:39
  been basically like banished from being even talked well of yeah,
• 1:17:43
  like literally you're not even allowed to like speak of them as good
• 1:17:45
  baseball player.
• 1:17:46
  Yeah, like it's just I just don't understand the course of over the
• 1:17:49
  course of history.
• 1:17:50
  There's been a lot of reasons for what you know in the case of baseball
• 1:17:54
  it was it was steroids that brought people back in it was in the case
• 1:17:58
  of the WNBA.
• 1:17:59
  It was racism.
• 1:18:01
  They we are a complicated fucking society.
• 1:18:03
  We can we all truths, you know, can multiple truths can exist at once
• 1:18:08
  and the reality is Kellen Clark was a was a really good college player
• 1:18:12
  who is now maybe one of the best of that.
• 1:18:14
  I got to watch I thought every single fucking I mean every woman who
• 1:18:19
  said like she's gonna have an adjustment period in the NBA and the WNBA
• 1:18:23
  were like lambasted for even insinuating that she might have an adjustment
• 1:18:27
  period and now we're watching her like not be able to handle the physicality
• 1:18:30
  and and that is like I want I the idea that the solution is to oust the
• 1:18:37
  problem rather than get to the source of the issue is so frustrating to
• 1:18:41
  me the idea that his solution is like hey, what if we pretended Caitlin
• 1:18:46
  Clark never happened?
• 1:18:47
  No.
• 1:18:47
  No, there's no going back time for you to talk about why the fuck you
• 1:18:50
  were so racist and sexist to the black women in that league and the
• 1:18:53
  black women fans, but I'll go back a step further.
• 1:18:56
  You have the solution.
• 1:18:57
  There isn't one there isn't even a fucking problem.
• 1:18:59
  There is this.
• 1:19:00
  Oh, there's a problem.
• 1:19:01
  No, the problem is how this is being covered at this point.
• 1:19:04
  That's the problem.
• 1:19:05
  Oh, no, no.
• 1:19:05
  What's the problem?
• 1:19:06
  Oh, no.
• 1:19:07
  The problem without you is a big problem.
• 1:19:08
  Oh, no.
• 1:19:09
  There's a huge problem like with like cultural issue with the WNBA and
• 1:19:13
  the way that they've handled Caitlin Clark.
• 1:19:14
  Like it's bad.
• 1:19:15
  Oh, they've handled King Clark horribly.
• 1:19:16
  They're like I don't live horribly from the get-go.
• 1:19:18
  They're pussy-footing around the non-stop that the flagrant to on
• 1:19:22
  Alyssa Thomas is like historically pretty bad that them allowing the
• 1:19:27
  fever to put out the the press the press release that they did regarding
• 1:19:31
  Caitlin Clark safety.
• 1:19:33
  That was a fucking joke.
• 1:19:34
  So now they've got the Mercury's coach Nate coming out and saying are
• 1:19:37
  you fucking kidding?
• 1:19:38
  It's a fucking job to defend Alyssa Thomas.
• 1:19:40
  It's a fucking job even within the league Caitlin Clark and the way that
• 1:19:44
  she's being officiated and the way that people are responding to the way
• 1:19:47
  she's being officiated and the way that other people are responding her
• 1:19:49
  to her lack of officiating has caused a real fucking problem, you know,
• 1:19:52
  and so it is now beyond the media and it really has been I mean since
• 1:19:56
  her first year in the league women have been saying I've never seen
• 1:19:59
  racism like this guys.
• 1:20:01
  They've been saying it multiple players.
• 1:20:04
  Alyssa Thomas was one of them.
• 1:20:05
  By the way, Alyssa Thomas was one of the players who said I have never
• 1:20:08
  experienced this kind of stuff.
• 1:20:09
  We have to get it under control.
• 1:20:11
  We're here.
• 1:20:11
  We are in year three and she's being used as a as a poster child for
• 1:20:16
  racist.
• 1:20:17
  It's like this is not just the media.
• 1:20:19
  It's real now and it always was it always was so I don't know you I know
• 1:20:25
  you don't and that's and and I'm I appreciate that you don't understand
• 1:20:30
  that what would cause a person to hold that cognitive dissonance, but
• 1:20:34
  the reality is it's actually super important for you to like to know
• 1:20:38
  I know I see it.
• 1:20:40
  I just it in its existence.
• 1:20:44
  It is it's just mad.
• 1:20:45
  It's just say that it's hypocritical as an understatement.
• 1:20:48
  It is almost like diametrically against yourself.
• 1:20:54
  Yes.
• 1:20:54
  Well also like, you know, there's a there's a lot of opposing forces
• 1:20:58
  here the cognitive dissonance.
• 1:21:00
  It always takes a lot of blind spot and cognitive distance to hold bigotry
• 1:21:04
  in your heart.
• 1:21:05
  And so like there is a level of being mad, right?
• 1:21:08
  There's a level of being mad about it.
• 1:21:10
  That is fair and reasonable.
• 1:21:11
  And then there's a level of like you actually have to just like really
• 1:21:15
  investigate why it exists because the reality is Cody.
• 1:21:18
  There are people in your life.
• 1:21:20
  There are people that you've loved who have been awful.
• 1:21:24
  Yes, I've been misogynists.
• 1:21:26
  Oh God.
• 1:21:27
  Oh my God.
• 1:21:28
  Yeah, right.
• 1:21:28
  Who also had probably daughters that they support.
• 1:21:31
  Oh, no, no, no.
• 1:21:32
  I've watched them use it in a different way.
• 1:21:34
  They they justify their misogynist because they have daughters.
• 1:21:41
  That's not what do you mean?
• 1:21:42
  That's different.
• 1:21:43
  That's what I'm fucking talking about.
• 1:21:44
  Cody.
• 1:21:44
  That's what I'm talking about.
• 1:21:46
  That's what I'm talking about.
• 1:21:48
  Yeah, I know.
• 1:21:48
  That's all the stuff that you've been witnessing that you haven't fully
• 1:21:52
  like connected to exactly what those are just morons though.
• 1:21:56
  They're not they're fucking misogynist.
• 1:21:58
  Yes, but also stupid, right?
• 1:22:00
  But they think they're heroes.
• 1:22:03
  Cody, that's the problem.
• 1:22:04
  I know that they're stupid.
• 1:22:06
  The problem is that they're they are misogynistic and stupid.
• 1:22:09
  No, see that's where you're wrong.
• 1:22:11
  I look misogyny is stupid.
• 1:22:14
  They are both.
• 1:22:15
  They are one in the same stupid people are almost always bigots.
• 1:22:20
  You're you're that is true.
• 1:22:22
  You are very rarely going to meet a stupid person who's not also a bigot
• 1:22:25
  because it is a lowest common denominator belief.
• 1:22:28
  So like every time I and that doesn't mean that smart people aren't about
• 1:22:33
  saying I know a couple intelligent bigots.
• 1:22:35
  It doesn't mean that smart people aren't what I'm saying is that because
• 1:22:38
  stupidity is inherent to the whole thing.
• 1:22:41
  That's what I mean.
• 1:22:42
  And so fair, you know, as much as I appreciate the outrage, I think part
• 1:22:46
  of it is also just understanding that it is pervasive in a way that like
• 1:22:49
  isn't special to some sort of like like it's like you don't need someone
• 1:22:54
  out there being like women shouldn't deserve to vote in order to understand
• 1:22:57
  that they're misogynist.
• 1:22:58
  Well, you guys vote does cause problems and it will continue to.
• 1:23:02
  Yeah.
• 1:23:02
  I mean, I'm just saying if you're if we're being honest about it, I mean
• 1:23:09
  we are we're always being honest about it.
• 1:23:12
  If nothing else, I think that we've I think we've hit.
• 1:23:18
  I think we've hit our goal for today time wise on this show.
• 1:23:21
  Yeah, I think we're ending it on me giving you a little bit of a
• 1:23:24
  conversation about misogyny and that's a totally normal way to end the
• 1:23:28
  show.
• 1:23:29
  It's like, you know, I learned we've all grown.
• 1:23:32
  We've all grown in this show.
• 1:23:33
  We've all vented on this show.
• 1:23:35
  I learned what misogyny is.
• 1:23:36
  We you finally figured out what misogyny is.
• 1:23:39
  No, I still don't get it.
• 1:23:40
  Yeah.
• 1:23:40
  Well, you don't get it because you can't relate to it, but you do have to
• 1:23:43
  spend time recognizing exactly where it's happening all the time everywhere.
• 1:23:46
  It's happening all the time everywhere because those people suck.
• 1:23:49
  I just I don't know.
• 1:23:50
  I don't know what else to say.
• 1:23:51
  I know I live.
• 1:23:52
  I think I think the reason that I get my hackles up a little bit about
• 1:23:55
  that because it always makes it sound like you like if you get along with
• 1:23:59
  person or they're cool.
• 1:24:00
  They couldn't possibly be a misogynist and like it couldn't be further from
• 1:24:03
  the I get along.
• 1:24:04
  I've got along with a lot of right.
• 1:24:05
  And so it's like it's all like it's just it's just frustrating because
• 1:24:11
  like I think I think the idea that like that's bad.
• 1:24:13
  I became really good friends with a guy like really good friends and I
• 1:24:16
  found out he was a massive racist.
• 1:24:19
  Yeah, massive.
• 1:24:21
  That is theirs like massive racist.
• 1:24:24
  Yeah, and when I find you were like and when I saw it for the first time,
• 1:24:28
  I'm like, yeah, bye bitch.
• 1:24:29
  I know I fucking was fear.
• 1:24:31
  I was furious with myself.
• 1:24:33
  Yeah, you were like, how do I not spot the red?
• 1:24:34
  How did I not know that I missed?
• 1:24:36
  Yeah, I know.
• 1:24:37
  I know.
• 1:24:38
  So we'll say not exactly surprised.
• 1:24:40
  Ocho sucks.
• 1:24:41
  We kind of knew that.
• 1:24:42
  Yeah, he's just well, he's just bad.
• 1:24:43
  He's just listen bad at his job.
• 1:24:44
  It sucks at his job at his job and also just like a bad faith actor.
• 1:24:49
  I have a I have a big like listen.
• 1:24:51
  I try to keep my in my where I think my intelligence in a very relative
• 1:24:55
  spot.
• 1:24:56
  I have a big problem with pseudo intelligence.
• 1:24:59
  I have a big problem with people who actively try to make themselves out
• 1:25:03
  to be the smart guy in the room and they're not that's actually a bigger
• 1:25:05
  pet peeve than anything in the world.
• 1:25:06
  Curiosity is the best sign you could possibly get from somebody right
• 1:25:09
  with somebody who's like constantly sort of asking questions willing to
• 1:25:13
  have open conversations, whatever.
• 1:25:15
  If you enter into conversation with somebody and every single conversation
• 1:25:18
  they like absolutely believe they're the expert.
• 1:25:21
  They're arrogant all the time.
• 1:25:23
  That's a lack of intellectual curiosity that he exhibits in all the time.
• 1:25:27
  Yeah, all the time.
• 1:25:28
  And that's it's one of my all-time best biggest pet peeves.
• 1:25:32
  I like to know shit, but I like to actually know accurate shit.
• 1:25:35
  I want to know things.
• 1:25:36
  I want to learn.
• 1:25:37
  There's ever a time on this show where I come at you about a baseball thing.
• 1:25:41
  There's a strong chance.
• 1:25:42
  You're going to be like she must know something.
• 1:25:43
  I don't because she does not fucking come at me about baseball shit, right?
• 1:25:46
  Like by the by and large I defer to you on specific things.
• 1:25:49
  So if I come at you and I'm like, yeah, you're wrong on this.
• 1:25:52
  There is a strong chance that you're going to be like, whoa, and I will
• 1:25:55
  listen and I want to find more out because there's because we've earned
• 1:25:58
  trust in a space of being like, hey, we don't actually we're not always
• 1:26:01
  experts on everything because I like I like to know things but I don't
• 1:26:04
  pretend or claim to be an expert and everything.
• 1:26:07
  I jokingly claim.
• 1:26:08
  I have expertise in a lot of things.
• 1:26:10
  I do a lot of research, you know, a lot about a little and then a little
• 1:26:14
  about a lot.
• 1:26:15
  Yeah, but when you're an expert in everything, you don't know a fucking
• 1:26:20
  thing and you know, someone's an expert when they want to get rid of the
• 1:26:23
  most with the most talked about athlete and expertise, baby expertise anymore.
• 1:26:28
  Let me just talk about Asia Wilson.
• 1:26:29
  You guys are always mad at me.
• 1:26:30
  But all I want to do is talk about how much I fucking hate her chilling
• 1:26:34
  and say we had to talk about misogyny and you know what we should be able
• 1:26:36
  to talk about how much you hate her chilling because I in that you would
• 1:26:39
  be able to hold a beautiful nuance with hating him and also understanding
• 1:26:43
  that the bloody sock was real didn't happen.
• 1:26:44
  Fuck her chillin.
• 1:26:45
  Fuck her chillin.
• 1:26:47
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