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Meet the Coordinators! - Mike Oliva Joins Fish Tank LIVE · The Fish Tank: Miami Dolphins Tales From The Deep

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[SPEAKER_01]: you're now diving into the fish team.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Welcome back to Fischtank Live, presented by Van Hoenlogger, and Casabella Design Group Seth Levitt here in the Casabella Design Group Studios, and I am joined by the only live podcaster.
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[SPEAKER_05]: To leave the NFL and Reception's Ambul a perfect game, he is O.J.
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[SPEAKER_05]: McDuffie Juice.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We're at it again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's facts until we to my proof is wrong, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's some eyes out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of guys out there that are doing podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you do the live.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You do the live in there just so just in case they're just doing podcast.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, just because we're on a live podcast.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'll say live or recorded or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And you can find going to history of all the guys that led the National Football League.
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[SPEAKER_05]: in receiving.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I doubt any of them.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't believe it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There's no way any of them also bold of perfect games.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, theoretically, you know, every podcast is live at the time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if I were to risk wrong, I've been out there in a while now you're going to get me out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not to break out my bowling balls now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't ever have to.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We have it on tape.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If you got it on tape, then I guess I said it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So what did you make up in the house?
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[SPEAKER_05]: You just heard from the Emmy adjacent producer, the legendary Spock, and his new digs.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I look at that background.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Is that the paddock club?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it looks like right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, man.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Really impresses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's my right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I hate to say it though, big self, but you know, I hope that car wins more than dolphins do, man.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, man.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What if they're starting at the same, never mind?
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[SPEAKER_05]: We'll get in all that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We'll get in all that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And of course, we just promoted it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We're very excited to have him here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: His second appearance on this side of Fish Tank a lot, and he lives in the chat.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But now he's here hanging with us.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's Mike Oliva.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I've been screwing it up.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Choose, I've found out today.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I've been calling my man, Michael Livia all this time.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He's never corrected me.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I have to imagine I'm one of a bunch of people that are, but it's like people screw it up.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Keep the extra eye.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, keep the extra stock.com and the whole dolphins talk ecosystem that is, but something we're going to talk about in a little bit for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm welcome back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Happy to be here, guys.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Happy to talk football with you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Super Bowl week.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Which our team was playing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's quite interesting.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Again.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But it is a super Bowl week.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So it is a look.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Final game of the year on Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's going to be fun.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It'll be more fun on fun team wins than the other, but happy to be here with you guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Mike, what I mean, but think it about that, though, the final game of the season, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's when we get that formal, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we...
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's so bad, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No one that, you know, in a few days, there'll be zero football that we're going to really, really enjoy, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to tell you what, football season, you know, post regular season, but really, really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and that's been a, that's been for Hi Lisa, that's my home girl, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's in Rochester now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He might be badly for that coldest weather we were talking about, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: So far for me, it's cold there, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's cold for me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's cold there, too.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Cold belt, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, right there.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I was crying the mic the other day.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It was 37.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He goes, yeah, well, at least it's not mine.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's one like it was here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What happened?
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's 10.
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[SPEAKER_03]: pretty much still same not much different change and send no Florida survive what would you guys get down to let's see over this past weekend we got down to 28 not pretty good alright did you get snow no see we we never time it out perfect enough we always need to get the precipitation or we get the cold weather we can't ever get both together
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'll get you together, Daveville.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Let's go.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Let's get it figured out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But some of my little make it snow.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'll send you some.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No doubt.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Now, as anybody who follows the live on a frequent basis knows, we're missing a couple of our regulars.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So Chad Van Horn, the heart and soul of Van
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[SPEAKER_05]: is pouring his heart into his new beautiful baby girl, juice, you did a beautiful tribute to Chad in your last I tried to tell y'all, but since then, a baby van horn has entered the universe so shout out to Chad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, baby Kiarra Kiarra van horn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then horn man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It came in over eight pounds 21.5 inches long.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, she's ready to walk already man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she came in she was ready and Miss Gabby your mom
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[SPEAKER_00]: She, you wouldn't even know she had a eight-pound baby broom, man, because she was so still petite, worked out to up to the, you know, the Saturday before she had the baby on the Sunday, and so blessings to our Van Horne family man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I can't wait to meet my niece.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, you know, Paula Bishop's talk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be doing her baby picture.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, it's not out yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, we already got that plan out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We just got away for Gab to be ready, and then we'll be ready for Little Baby Kiarra.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Very nice.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Very nice.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And Chris Perkins is, uh, well, we can make a Wi-Fi joke here, but, uh, fighting with this townhouse club, whatever, fighting with the board.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, apartment complex board.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the Starbucks is under renovation as so as a lifeline.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what the situation is with Perk.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Actually, in fairness, we were given a couple of weeks away from us just to see if we can get things figured out.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think he was, he might have just dropped a column on something that we're going to talk about today because today was the meet the coordinators in Miami Gardens, and I know he had a write a story about that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So with that, let's jump into that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Did everybody get a chance to listen to the coordinators today?
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[SPEAKER_05]: They were all available to the media.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I almost didn't see all of that for them.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's in pieces.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You guys seem really interesting, excited.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Everybody's fired up to learn who the new coordinators are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, I'm going to tell you, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did listen to the coordinators.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like everybody's in unison with this group right here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and one thing that I did get from all that to the excess is that they all know each other, which is always like, you know, that familiarity is always a good thing too in my opinion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course there are going to be some other people that are working below these coordinators that are probably new people, but at the same time know, I think that the guys that they were assembled so far, they know each other very well, they obviously know how to work well with each other, which is always going to be important.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because, you know, the fact that they're decided to do it again, the bring it back, so they've got a lot of good things, a lot of synergy with each other, and I think that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when you look at it, the dynamic is pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you know, we look at, you know, special teams coach, you know, and, and Tabor, Tabor, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tabor, Tabor, Tabor, Tabor, Tabor, Tabor, you know, he's an older gentleman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He looked at DC in, in Doug and he's, he's a younger gentleman, and I think it's like slow-wix kind of in the middle, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they've got a really nice dynamic when it comes to coaches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's important for, you know,
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, and I agree with everything you just said, Jews, except for, you know, when you said the table is an older gentleman, right?
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, I'm listening to him and I'm looking at him.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm thinking like he's pushed in 70, right?
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[SPEAKER_05]: And then I look at it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's only two years older than me, so I don't know what stress well older gentleman big stuff Got that out fell stress out his face.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, we are older gentleman and what are you going with that was three out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what he's doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what hit me and he does seem like
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[SPEAKER_05]: I was like, is that, you know, I think that the person I tried to see in the mirror is not necessarily the person that everybody else is seeing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: A little big opinion podcast.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What a great name.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What a little big opinions podcast.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Who is, is this someone that we know?
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[SPEAKER_04]: They reached out to me today.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They want to have me on.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think they're newer.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I said I come on and I don't know what I'm going to come on with them, but yes, I think they're a newer podcast out there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, if they're not new, I'm sorry, I'm going to read our today.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's almost like never slim history, little big drop of the chat.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Let's tell us what we can find it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What's that smart?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I was just saying they're new to you.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's exactly right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's exactly right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Well,
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, there was a lot to unpack there.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I want to start with something that you mentioned, Juice, and that was, you know, hey, they all seemed to know each other.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Is that I heard some different thoughts from different people that there were people that kind of had the, oh, they're just higher.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, Sully just hired his best friend from Green Bay, and then in Green Bay is just higher.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's Green Bay South now, and half of least is just hiring everybody from Green Bay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm curious if, with each of you, I'd love to get each of your opinion and certainly in the chat, are we bothered by the fact that, that guys are hiring guys that they know, do we feel that that diminishes the resume of the people that they're hiring?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Or is that like,
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[SPEAKER_05]: Is that kind of what you would expect, like we get excited that when Mike McDaniel was higher, oh Kyle Shanahan brought him everywhere he went.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He must be, you know, he must really like the guy, he must be good.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And so, how come it's okay in that situation, but maybe we're bothered by it in this situation.
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[SPEAKER_04]: way might up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, um, it doesn't bother me the least.
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[SPEAKER_04]: In fact, they can't hire enough people from Green Bay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Green Bay said more success.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The past four or five years.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, why wouldn't we want to replicate that here?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I saw a staff that was, um, on social media, uh,
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[SPEAKER_04]: like in the past week or so going back to 2022 when you just look at the draft who said more guys picked and have actually played games who are on the roster we ranked last they ranked first so yes let me steal as much as we can
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[SPEAKER_04]: of the teeth that I think first when it comes to the draft.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And obviously guys who are on the field playing and contributing, I can't have enough of the packers on this staff, honestly.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Anyone who's complaining about this, look, everyone hires their friends, John Harbao with the giants.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's bringing in a ton of guys from the rate, but that's how this league works.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm not upset by it, and in fact, I want more.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Give me more packers, because whatever they've done, they've been relevant for 30 years.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I know some of it is, yes, they've hit on
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[SPEAKER_04]: the quarterbacks but okay let us start hitting on the quarterbacks now now it's our turn so I don't have a problem with it and I think it's great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Mike, you know, they have the right philosophy when it comes to quarterbacks, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the different philosophies that Seth always talking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Seth talks about this all the time about going after a quarterback draft for quarterback every single draft.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or every other draft, like, you know, like Sully said.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's always important.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've gotten lucky and they've hit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they've also what they've done very well is having that quarterback in place before it's too late.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and that is critical.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, don't wait to need a quarterback to go get a quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I love that about it too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like you said, when it comes to these guys from Green Bay, they've done everything so well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't mind guys having their guys, having their guys that they've worked with for years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was talking about Doug and being the young guys, 33 years old, but hell, he's been around about half for eight years now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so half has to know exactly what this young man is about plus it's still going to be half defense run by a younger guy times, but you know, still going to be half, you know, so I mean, I think that the the way they're building this thing is the right way and we'll.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I love, you know, people taught my story because he was here before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I love about him is he's going to have so much inside Intel about the players that already on the roster that it'll help, it'll help half out so much when it comes to, you know, guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's the thing we're going to know too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: because he'll be able to see the guys that are let go or not being brought back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How some guys in the locker room, especially maybe slow it feels about, you know, felt about that guy that couldn't do anything about it, big set.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's going to know the guys that probably
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, he probably want to let go, but not having that power.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He couldn't, but now he has a little bit more power being O.C.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that he might have an opportunity to trim off some of the fat of guys that he knows didn't work hard or, you know, that, you know, that honest town it or that didn't fit the systems or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think the fact that you keep that, you know, that similarity, you keep that, that common denominator when it comes to the O.C.
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[SPEAKER_00]: with some of the players on that side of ball, man, I think that's big for us, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just hearing those guys talk today, man, I was like, really was obviously impressed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't win press conferences.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get that part, but I like the way the direction that this team has had it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: One more thing real quick, too, about these guys off from the packers, they're last two quarterbacks that they hit on.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Rogers was picked in the 20s, love was picked in the 20s.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I see a lot of fans and light offens, they have to tank.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They gotta lose, no, no, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You can rebuild and not tank.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because these guys, if you have smart people, you can find quarterbacks anywhere.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You don't have to have a smart person.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's all the same.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And trade up, trade down,
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[SPEAKER_04]: If the people are smart, we know what they're doing, they will find the quarterback and that's what they've done in green for decades on top also taking more quarterbacks when you already got one, which is a smart way to go.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's it, that's exactly it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, and, you know, I, you said this is the way this league works, Mike, and it is, but it's kind of the way the world works, you know, and not necessarily this whole, I mean, yes, the good old boy network is a separate conversation, particularly when you look at.
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[SPEAKER_05]: ten jobs and not a single black coach was hired and you know that's a separate conversation but in just in general if any one of us started a new business or was given a new position and you had to build the folks that worked for you and any business
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[SPEAKER_05]: You're going to hire the people that you know that could get the job done.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You're going to interview some and you'll probably fill in some of the blanks with new folks that come in with great resumes or come in with great what references from other people who you know like that's just the way it works.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I tell young people when I speak to them all the time that I don't care what is says on your resume if I see a reference that someone that I know and respect.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Then I'm going to call that person and if I call that person, so look our guy Andrew crowd just jumped in right so if I see someone that I'm trying to hire and they've got a great resume and whatever it might be or I got a guy from Harvard and then I got another guy from UCF but he's got Andrew as a reference.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to call Andrew and say hey.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Tell me about this guy and if he raves about him, I'm gonna trust the guy that I know.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I think that's what happens here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You can't tell me the John Eric Sullivan gets the job of a lifetime.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He spent 30 years, 20 something years in football, hoping to one day be a general manager.
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[SPEAKER_05]: This is the peak.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There's no job beyond general manager if you are, like he's not trying to become a head coach.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He is exactly,
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[SPEAKER_05]: where he wants to be as a general manager.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Do you think his first and most important higher, he's just going to hire his friend who might be a slapstick?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, no chance.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's not a chance.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, it's not.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And plus, I also hurts from some people, which I never really thought about, but it makes a last sense.
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[SPEAKER_04]: With a head coach at least.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You want a guy that has been at a lot of places.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Why, networking.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He knows a lot of staff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, why Chris Chula maybe was heard a little bit as he's only worked for the charges for a very short amount of time and then the Rams.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So for him to put together a staff, he doesn't have the network where someone even like half Lee, who was with Cleveland, Tampa Bay, San Francisco, Ohio State, then he was with
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[SPEAKER_04]: a pet coach for four years, and then he comes to the packers.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He has a lot of people he has worked with, he can reach out to and put together a staff for some of these younger coaches who've only worked at one or two places can't.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And that might have hurt someone like Chris Shula.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And that made a lot of sense.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I never thought of it that way before until I heard someone recently talk about it and go, oh, okay, so you want a guy who's moving around a little bit, learn from a fooder for people, and actually knows a lot of people so he can put together a staff relatively easily.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it makes so much sense because we've seen some of our coaches recently that we've had over the years, you know, that we've seen my, they've had trouble putting the staff together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, seem like it's taken way long and it was taken half that, you know, halfway to do compared to some of these other guys seem like it's, you know, taking guys a long time and you wonder why that is seem like all these guys that he's picked were chomping at the bit to be, you know, part of this organization and of course, it's like you know, have to be back with the organization.
18:00
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's a great point, Mike, because, you know, knowing guys is, is important, but the fact that you rub the elbows, you hung out.
18:08
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you know, you know, families and things like that, you know, the kind of God you wanted to staff and you have to be around a little while, even though it wasn't as a head coach at the NFL level, he wasn't head coach obviously lost some colleagues, but at the NFL level, he was not, but you still have been around so many people and so many coaches man, I mean, look at all the stops.
18:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he's guys have had man.
18:30
[SPEAKER_00]: When you have a lot of stops, you obviously meet a ton of people and I'm sure there's other times They get to have now together and stuff.
18:36
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, great point right there man about fact that you're able to build a staff and I think the fact that he's he's able to get him so quickly He knows him very well.
18:45
[SPEAKER_00]: That could lead to some some early or He already lost the guy two after a week.
18:49
[SPEAKER_04]: He already lost his name hack and after a week.
18:51
[SPEAKER_04]: Someone already poached them.
18:52
[SPEAKER_04]: How crazy is that seven days?
18:55
[SPEAKER_05]: How crazy is that?
18:56
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's wild the way that works.
18:58
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm looking at a question from Lisa.
19:01
[SPEAKER_05]: She said, was it a foregone conclusion that we were moving on from weaver, even if he didn't get another job?
19:06
[SPEAKER_05]: So, I mean, I don't, you know, there's no insider information here coming from me, at least.
19:11
[SPEAKER_05]: Obviously, we've got really close on a couple different opportunities, at least that's what it seems like from the outside, looking in, where you got a couple second interviews.
19:21
[SPEAKER_05]: What you have to keep in mind is, he was a defensive coordinator, you hire a head coach who was a defensive coordinator, who's saying from the moment he walks in, I'm going to call the defense.
19:32
[SPEAKER_05]: So that's basically, for weaver, he would be taking a demotion essentially.
19:38
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, he went from where Mike McDaniel considered the defensive coordinator, the head coach of the defense, he would be the guy that's
19:45
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to say glorified to see because that's not fair.
19:49
[SPEAKER_05]: And I liked what Halfley said today that he has so much faith in Sean Doug and that he's going to allow him to be the head coach first and then call the defense.
19:57
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought I really liked the way that sounded and was positioned.
20:01
[SPEAKER_05]: But for weaver to be the guy in control of that room to have to kind of take a step back, I just, I don't know how that would have worked.
20:10
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
20:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
20:11
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's hard for anybody.
20:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Since the coaches have the toughest job, once the head man gets fired, it really is a fact.
20:23
[SPEAKER_00]: So those guys are all, I mean, I'm sure they were making calls, but things weren't looking good for the team.
20:30
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when you got to start, you got to start a week like seven goes out there.
20:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, you have to start putting those out there early, you know, just in case.
20:38
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, you know, best thing that could have happened for we was to get a hit coaching job.
20:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, we just talked about that that didn't happen, but, you know, you get a lot of moves.
20:46
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, going to be a defense coordinator again.
20:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought he, you know, he didn't have rude jobs, especially when all his corners came in and all this, you know, you know, the injuries that happen on defense.
20:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody has injuries, but he still, he did a solid solid, no job that, you know, if he had a healthy team, he might have been a little bit different outcome for those guys, but the same time, you know, who do we keep?
21:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Embrie, Embrie still on the one staff, right?
21:11
[SPEAKER_04]: He's not coming back.
21:12
[SPEAKER_04]: He's not coming back.
21:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I saw that.
21:14
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have anybody there.
21:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Really.
21:15
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have any.
21:16
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
21:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no.
21:17
[SPEAKER_04]: So we kind of Clark.
21:19
[SPEAKER_04]: We kept and Joe Barry the run game coordinator and defensive linebackers coach.
21:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Those were the three we kept.
21:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.
21:27
[SPEAKER_00]: So we got something familiar to which is which is nice.
21:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, so I mean, evaluate the talent.
21:33
[SPEAKER_00]: These guys have seen it all.
21:35
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and so we'll we'll see how many guys around, you know,
21:40
[SPEAKER_00]: when when they started getting rid of guys.
21:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I like the fact that that fresh eyes on these guys and when I got self when I came, not when I came, but when we lost Coach Shula to a firing in Jimmy Johnson came in, it was like trying that you got to show him proof all over again.
21:58
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, only one that was untouchable was Dhammarino.
22:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody else, you know, had to go out there and win a position, bro.
22:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
22:06
[SPEAKER_00]: And I like that, too.
22:07
[SPEAKER_00]: That was part of, that was part of the whole thing today, too, is that they're talking about, you know, installing, talking every position, you know, of course they talked about, too.
22:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Every position, there's going to be a competition.
22:19
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
22:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Every single position.
22:21
[SPEAKER_05]: He talked about how it made people uncomfortable and that that was a good thing.
22:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
22:26
[SPEAKER_05]: And that is such the opposite, right?
22:28
[SPEAKER_05]: I think the rumors about how they didn't want people to be uncomfortable.
22:32
[SPEAKER_05]: We heard that that probably hurt the dolphins in the past.
22:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
22:35
[SPEAKER_05]: It was speculation that they didn't bring in experience quarterback so that they didn't make to a uncomfortable or can't help.
22:42
[SPEAKER_04]: That goes back to Tannel too.
22:44
[SPEAKER_00]: They never go away with me.
22:45
[SPEAKER_04]: I came to push him.
22:46
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not Tannel.
22:48
[SPEAKER_00]: It was, you know, we talked about our coddled two of us.
22:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a lot, Tannel.
22:54
[SPEAKER_00]: They're with him, man.
22:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he really was.
22:56
[SPEAKER_00]: They got to the point where they're telling DBs and practice not to pick him off.
23:01
[SPEAKER_00]: you know what I mean by Can you believe that?
23:03
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23:23
[SPEAKER_00]: It's important if you see the more and all more than anybody.
23:26
[SPEAKER_00]: You spend more time with just the assistant coaches than anybody.
23:29
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and I think that, you know, me, for me, you know, I had very siphole, who was an incredible coach, but he was a partner that, you know, came up with my virus, he was a coach, but then I had Robert Ford.
23:40
[SPEAKER_00]: And Robert Ford really taught me more about being a receiver than anybody, but he was also, he was like a dad to all of this man.
23:48
[SPEAKER_00]: He really, you know, he really took us under his wing in terms of all the other stuff as well.
23:53
[SPEAKER_00]: So that guy right there is a guy you want to go out to here and you want to play for him, want to play hard for site too.
23:59
[SPEAKER_00]: That came in as a young dude, site already dealt with duper and Clayton and
24:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Ingrid and fire and all those other guys, but as a young guy, man, I was the young guy, you know, but then when I got to coach for it, I was the old guy and that you know, that relationship was really good But it's really important and I think that that's an important thing to talk about too because you know, you know, Tabor is talking about that that he's he's one of the most light coaches and football
24:23
[SPEAKER_00]: you know special teams and he's a guy that's going to deal with everybody on the team offense defense you know of course that all comes in the special team so you know I think that these guys have a the smart about I think what they're going to be smart about is that fact that you know they're going to be players coaches but they're not trying to go to barbecue's with the guys
24:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, they know that line of the cross, man, because you still got to be somebody like, you know, always use that kindergarten teacher being all the time like, you know, kindergarten teacher, you know, she's got to be mean at first if she wants to be nice at the end.
24:59
[SPEAKER_00]: But you can't be nice at first and then be tough at the end and then one of why the kids are listening to you at the end, you know, and I just had that with Mike.
25:07
[SPEAKER_04]: That was Mike's whole problem.
25:09
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
25:09
[SPEAKER_04]: And that he was too friendly with the guys and I get it.
25:13
[SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't need to be the days of the 1970s or 80s words.
25:16
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm out for this.
25:16
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm out for that the whole time.
25:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, but you can't be so friendly where you're one of the guys.
25:22
[SPEAKER_04]: You're not one of the guys.
25:23
[SPEAKER_04]: You're the head coach.
25:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
25:25
[SPEAKER_00]: agree.
25:25
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got to be pressure out there as players.
25:28
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you know, we talk about this a lot.
25:30
[SPEAKER_00]: This got to be pressure from from coaches to get guys out through the work.
25:33
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, and I don't think these guys want to work.
25:37
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't, he didn't make them go out there and work.
25:39
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and I'm going to, I'm going to tell you this, too.
25:41
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, people always say there's no difference, but there's a difference between being hurt being injured.
25:46
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't want you out there injured, but if you're hurt, a lot of guys play hurt.
25:51
[SPEAKER_00]: These guys in need play hurt.
25:54
[UNKNOWN]: They
25:54
[SPEAKER_04]: and uh... it was acceptable and now and then it became unacceptable because i think they use mic that way and uh... you know they took advantage of which i don't think that's happening with half i don't i don't think that's happening well i mean look at what happened with vick fangio vick was here and not all the players on defense but a lot of the players on defense clearly didn't like him because the day he was gone they're putting up stuff on social media trolling him
26:19
[SPEAKER_04]: Which is totally unprofessional honestly, but it's like Vic probably old school guy and you got my there sitting there with his guys on offense having a party and all the guys and defense are looking like what why not talk on that us, you know, he's he's over there telling jokes for having a party you're over here making his work, but Vixway works clearly it was all one position group though Mike that was all I know position group secondary here.
26:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that didn't be me.
26:46
[SPEAKER_00]: We play with some tough DBs that wouldn't yeah.
26:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Mel Phil's like going for that big set.
26:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't feel it's like going for that.
26:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Those guys.
26:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for Nanda as you write that, you know, go go enjoy what he said, go enjoy your practice squad check.
26:59
[SPEAKER_00]: That was that's Danny Hill talking to, you know, when he got a little upset with the practice squad guys, doing, you know, killing him over there.
27:06
[SPEAKER_05]: Unbelievable.
27:07
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's literally the worst thing you can say, isn't it?
27:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're making, you're the talk about anybody's money, big say, especially not when you're in the highest paid guy and you're not performing well.
27:18
[SPEAKER_05]: You just can't do that.
27:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's a, I got a, I got a teammate I will not name or mention that was bitching about my sign and bonus and I just got near and he was looking for a new contract.
27:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And I still don't like this dude because of that because I know the rules, man, you know, I mean, I'm cool.
27:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Get your hands out of my pocket.
27:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Get your hands out of my pocket, man.
27:40
[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's called the rule right there, man.
27:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't take any, don't take anything out of the locker room.
27:45
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it, wise.
27:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And don't talk about anybody's money.
27:47
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
27:48
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
27:48
[SPEAKER_05]: So, so getting back to this, Bobby Sloughick, some interesting, you know, Bobby Sloughick, first of all, did a great job of saying absolutely nothing for 20 minutes.
27:57
[SPEAKER_05]: In a lot of ways, he wasn't going to talk about players, he wasn't going to talk about other coaches.
28:01
[SPEAKER_05]: And was smart, right, because he knew what we didn't at that moment that Hackett had just been poached, as you said, Mike.
28:08
[SPEAKER_05]: But there were two things that he was asked that I thought was very interesting.
28:11
[SPEAKER_05]: One was how similar were your will, your offense.
28:15
[SPEAKER_05]: be to Mike McDonald's.
28:17
[SPEAKER_05]: And he kind of laughed about, wow, right out the gate.
28:19
[SPEAKER_05]: But of course, Barry Jackson's going to ask you the question that needs to be asked and answered.
28:24
[SPEAKER_05]: And he talked about how they're all kind of come from that same tree.
28:27
[SPEAKER_05]: And so that there are going to be some similarities.
28:30
[SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, he didn't deny that.
28:34
[SPEAKER_05]: But, you know,
28:36
[SPEAKER_05]: I, I would like to think that number one, the fact that all he has to do is focus on the offense and not the entire ball club.
28:44
[SPEAKER_05]: And maybe Mike with Daniel, you know, I always wondered on game days, did he only focus on the offense and not the entire ball club, and was that part of the problem?
28:51
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
28:52
[SPEAKER_05]: But my hope is that that helps, and I also think, you know, Bobby Slook in 2023 was,
28:59
[SPEAKER_05]: was a guy that was supposed to be like one of the next head coaches in the national football league.
29:05
[SPEAKER_05]: And CJ Stroud, we all like, God, I wish we had that guy here and, you know, and Bryce, young, what, how could they pass up on him for CJ Stroud?
29:14
[SPEAKER_05]: And then the next year, CJ Stroud takes a step back, the offense slows down, they start to think that the offense is getting away of this championship caliber defense, and slow it's out of a job, right?
29:26
[SPEAKER_05]: And then the next year was slow, it's not there.
29:30
[SPEAKER_05]: Stroud takes another step back.
29:33
[SPEAKER_05]: And so it makes you wonder, was it stroud declining?
29:38
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, as he regressing in just three years, was that first year of fluke, did Bobby slow get a raw deal?
29:45
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm really curious to see what this offense looks like.
29:49
[SPEAKER_05]: And I was talking to somebody today, I think what I'm most curious about.
29:52
[SPEAKER_05]: And one of the things he talked about today, which everybody says, but you know, breaking the hurdle, getting to the line of scrimmage quickly, all of those things, I want to see what the operation looks like.
30:02
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, I want to see the touchdowns.
30:04
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, I want to see the run game.
30:05
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, I don't want to see us, you know, throwing the ball on on on third in six inches.
30:13
[SPEAKER_05]: But I want to see
30:16
[SPEAKER_05]: and week 11, the guys know where to line up, you know, that's what I really want to see.
30:22
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's what I think is going to be, you know, and that I think will be a reflection, not just upon on slow, but also on halfway.
30:27
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, what standard are guys going to be hell too?
30:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Sam?
30:32
[SPEAKER_05]: Sam's not impressed.
30:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, sorry, I thought that was a great point.
30:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know what we saw that in the last three games.
30:42
[SPEAKER_00]: We actually did see those guys get up to the line of skirmish and, you know, really fast.
30:47
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was under Quint Newers when he was a, you know, a quarterback.
30:50
[SPEAKER_00]: They finally got guys up there on on the ball.
30:54
[SPEAKER_00]: with all the motion shifts now who knows how many motion shifts there would be would there be some obviously you have to be a motion shift and but you don't have to do it all the time to have to shift you know I think there was a comment about if I don't know if it was was a slowly dissent it was another I think was I think it was I had to be slow this at it when it was like three different shifts yeah you know when there was some some film three different shifts on a motion and all that's
31:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you didn't, the first shift didn't do it.
31:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Second shift didn't do it.
31:22
[SPEAKER_00]: The third shift probably is not going to do it.
31:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And you want to motion, they're just saying where they're at.
31:26
[SPEAKER_00]: They're probably going to do what they're going to do.
31:28
[SPEAKER_00]: So why are we now in the down to three seconds on the play flop?
31:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And now we're messing around.
31:33
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I'm with you, bro.
31:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think that there's got to be some parts of.
31:39
[SPEAKER_00]: the old offense because they are from the same tree.
31:43
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think there's also going to be situation where they've talked about it and they better stick to it.
31:48
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, what they're going to try to pound the rock as much they can because that's the way the game is going these days.
31:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
31:53
[SPEAKER_04]: I think a big thing to the offense, Mike McDaniels offense.
31:58
[SPEAKER_04]: works.
31:59
[SPEAKER_04]: The problem at times was Mike McDaniel.
32:01
[SPEAKER_04]: We'd be running the ball six, seven yards, a clip.
32:03
[SPEAKER_04]: He'd stop running it, third, one, third, and two instead just running it.
32:05
[SPEAKER_04]: We throw aside ways past.
32:07
[SPEAKER_04]: We get down to the red zone.
32:08
[SPEAKER_04]: We throw a fade pass to a five, nine, and wide receiver.
32:10
[SPEAKER_04]: We did crazy stuff with Mike.
32:12
[SPEAKER_04]: If slow it's going to run it, you know, that's not the same offense exactly, but close enough, but just not do the dumb things at times, McDaniel did.
32:21
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to be okay with that, you know, we wasted a time out in one game this year in the first quarter when the clock read 15, not one second ran off.
32:29
[SPEAKER_04]: You couldn't get his offense on the field for the first play of the game.
32:31
[SPEAKER_04]: And I mean, think about that, first play of the game.
32:34
[SPEAKER_04]: You couldn't get all of the games in the same way.
32:36
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not like that.
32:36
[SPEAKER_04]: It's an executable.
32:38
[SPEAKER_04]: So if that stuff's cleaned up, the operations, like you said, and just, you know, when the running games work and stick with it,
32:46
[SPEAKER_04]: and then if they stopped it, then change from it.
32:48
[SPEAKER_04]: If not, just keep running it.
32:51
[SPEAKER_04]: That was the problem with Mike.
32:52
[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't that his offense was bad.
32:56
[SPEAKER_04]: It was that he got in the way of it sometimes.
32:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, dude, you're holding the team back.
32:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Not the actual offense itself.
33:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Simplify things.
33:02
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not simplifying.
33:03
[SPEAKER_04]: It's football at the end of the day.
33:04
[SPEAKER_04]: That complicated.
33:05
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
33:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
33:06
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't, you know, here's how you make things simple, Mike.
33:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Seth, Savak.
33:11
[SPEAKER_00]: is be able to run it when they know you're going to run it, keep yourself in man's with down in distances, you know, and then, you know, then you've got to keep them a little bit off balance.
33:20
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you can run the football, if the teams that run the football well, man, they're running game travels to you.
33:26
[SPEAKER_00]: You know that running game travels.
33:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
33:29
[SPEAKER_00]: They're the dominant squads in this game now, man.
33:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, you know, as a wire receiver, hell, it won't game with Penn State out, you know, we threw the ball ten times because we were running it so well.
33:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I became one of the best blockers in college at that point, you know.
33:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're just going to block everybody, you know.
33:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that, you know, you take pride in that.
33:47
[SPEAKER_00]: except, you know, and we'll talk a little bit about it, man, but our last playoff win was so long ago, but I see me blocking all the way, you know, getting them more into the intro and blocking.
33:57
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a pride right there, right?
34:00
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I love that.
34:01
[SPEAKER_00]: You got guys right now that talk about what you can't do anymore.
34:05
[SPEAKER_00]: We should run this tall crack.
34:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm cracking defensive ends.
34:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Outside linebackers, strong safeties, you know what I mean?
34:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Matt, this, you know, it's, the run game, if it's like that, then guys, we don't mind doing that.
34:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I know some wide receivers just worked the past, past, past, throw the ball to me, throw the ball to me, and don't think I didn't say that on occasion.
34:25
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, don't think that I was unselfly like that, Mike, you know.
34:29
[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, no, a good block and send a, a running back, run off your tail, man.
34:34
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's, that, that, that means a lot to us a receiver.
34:37
[SPEAKER_00]: If you really, after trying to be the complete guy and doing your job.
34:40
[SPEAKER_04]: And we got the running backs.
34:41
[SPEAKER_04]: It's still one area of the team.
34:43
[SPEAKER_04]: We have depth.
34:44
[SPEAKER_04]: We got the backs.
34:45
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just give them the ball.
34:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Upgrade the offensive line a little bit.
34:50
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's not all bad on the offensive line.
34:51
[SPEAKER_04]: Some people are way too hard on it.
34:53
[SPEAKER_04]: That all bad.
34:53
[SPEAKER_04]: But yes, some partly to be tweaked and then just run them all.
34:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, you look at you.
34:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you look at that.
35:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I mean, that's a great point, man.
35:02
[SPEAKER_00]: They have to make some changes there.
35:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Right side needs to be addressed.
35:05
[SPEAKER_04]: The right side.
35:06
[SPEAKER_00]: 1,000% SBA address.
35:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that to buy a knife is going to have a much better year patch of Paul had a great year for, you know, second year guy and Brewer going to hell.
35:16
[SPEAKER_00]: He's my couldn't have been offensive MVP if it wasn't for awards.
35:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for work.
35:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if it wasn't for HN, you know, to me.
35:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the right side.
35:23
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Austin Jackson, you will see that right guard position was a mess.
35:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Austin Jackson has to see us and Jackson never plays.
35:30
[SPEAKER_04]: that's a problem.
35:30
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, let's just be honest.
35:31
[SPEAKER_04]: He never plays.
35:32
[SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly the problem.
35:35
[SPEAKER_00]: When he plays, he's pretty good.
35:36
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we never got five times a year.
35:38
[SPEAKER_00]: We miss him.
35:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't have him.
35:39
[SPEAKER_00]: We miss him.
35:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
35:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
35:41
[SPEAKER_00]: We can't figure it out with him.
35:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
35:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, you know, never mind.
35:45
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not going to go there because I'm going to create a problem.
35:48
[SPEAKER_05]: They might figure it out form real easy.
35:50
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
35:50
[SPEAKER_05]: I was going to go somewhere that I shouldn't go.
35:52
[SPEAKER_05]: I shouldn't go.
35:54
[SPEAKER_05]: So, yeah, I thought that was interesting, but he was also asked about Tua.
35:58
[SPEAKER_05]: So, Slovak was asked about Tua.
36:00
[SPEAKER_05]: He talked about how difficult of a season it was.
36:04
[SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, he didn't rule anything out.
36:07
[SPEAKER_05]: He didn't commit to anything, but
36:11
[SPEAKER_05]: It makes me wonder, you know, they obviously have some tough decisions to make and some significant cap challenges that they're faced with, starting just because of that crazy tool contract.
36:26
[SPEAKER_05]: And it makes me wonder if they're going to try and get some value out of them.
36:29
[SPEAKER_05]: And at least, you know, if they're going to let people compete and say, here's a guy that led the league and passing at one point, is there anything left?
36:36
[SPEAKER_05]: Is it worth giving them a shot?
36:38
[SPEAKER_05]: Or are they just going to cut bait?
36:39
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, I don't know.
36:41
[SPEAKER_05]: It'll be interesting to see.
36:42
[SPEAKER_05]: It's Microsoft for handling it respectfully.
36:44
[SPEAKER_04]: They are handling her, respectively, but it's over.
36:46
[SPEAKER_04]: You got two at coaches fired.
36:47
[SPEAKER_04]: They didn't let this at coaching and he can get him fired.
36:50
[SPEAKER_04]: And a dad, I mean, the job.
36:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Call what it is.
36:53
[SPEAKER_04]: You got two at coaches fired.
36:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he might get the third one fired.
36:56
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's a truth or plus.
36:59
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how it worked exactly with the contract, but what I've heard and how I understand it, there's stuff in the contract where if he's on the team next year, say he's the third singer, second string.
37:09
[SPEAKER_04]: He gets hurt.
37:10
[SPEAKER_04]: that triggers more guaranteed money on it's just gonna make it hard to get rid of them then.
37:14
[SPEAKER_04]: I think you just got to rip the bandade off whether you do a post-une first or you take the money and split, redo it all in one year.
37:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Next year's probably gonna be a rough year anyways.
37:23
[SPEAKER_04]: I think all fans did off at least level-headed fans kind of stand next year might be rough, but at some point you got to rip the bandade off.
37:30
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, again, we talk about
37:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Stroud, he's got worse a little bit over here.
37:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, our guy, he was doing that first a little bit.
37:37
[SPEAKER_04]: I've got worse a little bit over here.
37:38
[SPEAKER_04]: And he can't keep pointing the fingers at the coaches at this.
37:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Then he goes at the press conferences, he's blaming fans, he's blaming this one, talking about his teammates.
37:46
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a, he got to go.
37:48
[SPEAKER_04]: He can't have him on the sideline next year.
37:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Moping around the, you know, miserable and cloudy when things don't go his way.
37:55
[SPEAKER_04]: He's a nice man.
37:56
[SPEAKER_04]: It didn't, and he got paid.
37:58
[SPEAKER_04]: So it ain't about money.
37:59
[SPEAKER_04]: He can be okay.
38:00
[SPEAKER_04]: But he got to go.
38:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
38:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
38:04
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, we'll tell us how you really think.
38:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to tell you.
38:09
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we've given, you know, we've given quarterbacks, probably longer, you know, time.
38:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And we should have mean, especially when.
38:21
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when you think about that, we can we talk about 10 a.m. a little bit, you know, he need to be in the right place, you know, he need a Derrick Henry behind me, he needed that team has had great defense going to pound the rock and then he can make a play every once in a while.
38:34
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, for us, I think you said it earlier, Mike, you know, I think.
38:38
[SPEAKER_00]: that McDaniel really wanted to ride to us so much and proved that he was going to be the guy to make two of the guy.
38:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And then when two of us health, and there's agility, what you didn't have a lot of in the first place.
38:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And then obviously it's ability, all the men he's been in was like,
38:58
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, we held on to him a little longer than we should have, you know, so I think you're right, man.
39:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that in the game is changed, man.
39:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at the game.
39:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I mean, look at the game now, you know, you've got one quarter back in Sam Darn who's not very athletic, but he's still can get out of there and move and roll and you know, get up out of there.
39:15
[SPEAKER_00]: You got, you know, you got Drake May, who's a hell of an athlete.
39:19
[SPEAKER_00]: You have Bow Nick, who was a hell of an athlete.
39:23
[SPEAKER_00]: You
39:27
[SPEAKER_00]: We need quarterbacks in this day and age that can create.
39:30
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have that creator anymore, you know, in two of us.
39:34
[SPEAKER_00]: And we really, really never did have it, you know?
39:36
[SPEAKER_00]: If two of them throw it on time, we were in trouble.
39:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's unfortunate for him because when he was on like that, it was amazing.
39:43
[SPEAKER_00]: But now the way the game is, you know, when they, you know, when they can dance to everything and we, they talked a lot about, and spoke talked a lot about that too high show, kill this, you know, everybody's condensed.
39:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Good work throwing it so quick.
39:57
[SPEAKER_00]: We can't keep throwing the ball quick and expect big results and big big chunk plays like we did before now the game is got we've got to figure out a way to stress these defenses without you know and I know I know that you know
40:10
[SPEAKER_00]: that what on day one what half was talking about was that the hardest part for them was when play accent or you got a run game and they're trying to throw behind linebackers in the front of safety's now we didn't have that problem because our safety those safety's weren't going anywhere the windows were so tight because they weren't worried about us getting over the top with the fastest receivers the fastest tandem receivers in the game they weren't worried about it because we weren't doing it we have to get back to being able to run the rock and
40:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Push those safety's back and be able to throw behind them, you know, behind the line back as an underneath the safety.
40:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's no arguments here in the chat or if you're going to have a quarterback that's, look, there has the ability to do that.
40:51
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, so that's the big question, right?
40:53
[SPEAKER_05]: What are they going to do with that position?
40:55
[SPEAKER_05]: Which is, you know, again, that's the point that I was, I was trying to make, and it's why he was asked the question.
40:59
[SPEAKER_05]: So I think it was interesting the things that he said about to, I don't know that it gives us any kind of answers either way, but it was very nice and professional.
41:08
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's what they should say.
41:09
[SPEAKER_04]: It was.
41:10
[SPEAKER_04]: By the end of this month, I'd be shocked if he's still on the team because free agency starts like March 9th.
41:16
[SPEAKER_04]: It'll be a before we know it.
41:18
[SPEAKER_04]: And he ain't going to be on this roster that first day of the new league year when they got to set up their salary cap.
41:24
[SPEAKER_04]: So this is going to be his last month in Miami.
41:26
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll let's say do it March 1st, second.
41:28
[SPEAKER_04]: But you get my point.
41:29
[SPEAKER_04]: He ain't going to be here much longer.
41:30
[SPEAKER_04]: You're going to be off the books.
41:31
[SPEAKER_04]: We're not off the books, but off the roster still on the books.
41:34
[SPEAKER_04]: However, they do it.
41:36
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
41:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, should should be okay to, right, I mean, he's he's he's gonna have to take dinner every night if you want to be okay That's a lot of steak dinners and not just from longhorn.
41:51
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's although I like a good flows for late.
41:54
[SPEAKER_05]: That's for sure.
41:55
[SPEAKER_05]: So something else that was interesting Troy Ackman But the Miami Dolphins Troy Ackman not the Cowboys Troy.
42:02
[SPEAKER_05]: You know the Miami Dolphins Troy Ackman was on the rich eyes and show
42:05
[SPEAKER_05]: This week and and kind of pulled the curtain back a little bit and talked about He's a he's such a serious guy, but a smart guy an interesting guy, but he talked about You know what had What had been of interest to him He talked about, you know, maybe the consideration of getting into a front office position
42:27
[SPEAKER_05]: And then he talked about how fond he was of Jeff Halfley even before he was brought in to be a part of this process.
42:37
[SPEAKER_05]: Just having an opportunity to talk to coordinators when he was doing production meetings.
42:42
[SPEAKER_05]: So what did you guys hear any of the stuff that I saw the whole thing?
42:46
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I saw what we were thoughts on that.
42:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, hey, he knows Troy, that's the one thing in that job he's in, you travel 17 weeks a year and you're meeting with all these teams and all the people in the front offices.
42:58
[SPEAKER_04]: So he has a wealth of connections, which is why Miami reached out to them.
43:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Because who else in there?
43:03
[SPEAKER_04]: front office has that type of connections time you came from the podries uh sure he's just a numbers guy really marino i don't know if he knows people at the level troinos like that level where you're in a new teams facility every week so they needed someone like that just to be like hey talk to this guy hey think about him and just sort of float some ideas out there and i thought you know it's great i think Troy knows what he's talking about i think Troy
43:32
[SPEAKER_04]: gave his opinions and I think they listened to him a lot and sounded like John Erick Sullivan was someone who was really high on even before the process started and John Erick Sullivan obviously he probably blew them all away with when he met with them and then for halfly if I think if there's any doubt that he's just going to hire a friend type of deal I think halfly probably put that to
43:53
[SPEAKER_04]: He also just probably blew them away when he met with them.
43:56
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought Troy came off great.
43:58
[SPEAKER_04]: I think Troy might be paid for this job next year with some other teams.
44:03
[SPEAKER_04]: I could see him having a little offseason job here every year.
44:06
[SPEAKER_04]: Make some side money on top of his paying gig with ESPN and his his he's got a beer company as well.
44:14
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean Troy ain't hurtin for money, but he's got a gig here.
44:16
[SPEAKER_04]: I think because we clearly like he's valuable for Miami.
44:20
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so but then that begs a question like if a guy was that valuable and you were keeping them that much why don't you find a way to bring them in as a part of your organization I agree sign them up why would he give up his this why would he give up his TV gig though
44:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you don't have to any more juice.
44:40
[SPEAKER_05]: Look at Matt Ryan.
44:41
[SPEAKER_05]: Look at Troy.
44:42
[SPEAKER_05]: Look at Tom Brown.
44:43
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't have to go on.
44:45
[SPEAKER_04]: He had to give it up.
44:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Matt Ryan's gone.
44:46
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, did he give up TV?
44:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
44:48
[SPEAKER_04]: He's all done with CBS.
44:49
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's an owner.
44:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Tom Brady's the one, though, or he's the owner.
44:52
[SPEAKER_05]: As an owner, you have to win seven Super Bowls and then you can probably different things.
44:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm taking.
45:00
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got three dreams.
45:02
[SPEAKER_00]: He's happy with that.
45:02
[SPEAKER_00]: He's making $10, man.
45:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Over, you have to be over the day-to-day operations of football team, man.
45:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not lazy like that.
45:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just retired like that.
45:13
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
45:14
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, he's still grinding, though.
45:16
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, not quite the way that he is, but all that travel and who knows.
45:21
[SPEAKER_05]: Everybody's got to make their own personal decisions there.
45:24
[SPEAKER_05]: The only difference is in TV, you can be wrong every week.
45:27
[SPEAKER_04]: Nobody cares.
45:28
[SPEAKER_05]: One of the best podcasts.
45:29
[SPEAKER_05]: Right, you know, you can Troy never settles down.
45:34
[SPEAKER_05]: But I'm pumped.
45:35
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a great one Sam.
45:38
[SPEAKER_05]: You are the best.
45:39
[SPEAKER_05]: You are the best.
45:40
[SPEAKER_05]: So it was good.
45:41
[SPEAKER_05]: If you didn't get a chance to watch it, I think you should definitely check it out.
45:44
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, real quick.
45:46
[SPEAKER_05]: I want to talk about
45:48
[SPEAKER_05]: your Super Bowl picks, and then we're going to roll into I try to tell you all, we're still going to try and end this thing at a reasonable hour here.
45:55
[SPEAKER_05]: Super Bowl picks.
45:56
[SPEAKER_05]: Savot, we haven't heard enough from you.
45:58
[SPEAKER_05]: By the way, Savot, everybody told me last week that, you know, they rarely get to hear from you, and then when you, when you came on, so that, you know, you turned the mic on.
46:08
[SPEAKER_05]: You were like 10 times louder.
46:10
[SPEAKER_05]: than everybody else.
46:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that what he did to his big sister?
46:13
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, that's just like podcasts.
46:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it, oh, no, no, what's up?
46:19
[SPEAKER_05]: That's pretty fun.
46:20
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I didn't notice it.
46:21
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm going to meet.
46:22
[SPEAKER_05]: I had somebody tell me that they had to literally turn the sound all the way down.
46:26
[SPEAKER_05]: We came on there.
46:27
[SPEAKER_05]: It's here.
46:27
[SPEAKER_00]: It came in, I don't know, a big sister.
46:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
46:29
[SPEAKER_00]: It's about came in hot like that car behind me.
46:31
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a man.
46:32
[SPEAKER_05]: See, he's never done that.
46:35
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm just giving everybody a fair warning.
46:38
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm letting Savac come in, you know, I know he gets excited when he has that opportunity.
46:42
[SPEAKER_05]: Superbowl picks.
46:44
[SPEAKER_05]: The legendary Savac who you got.
46:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh man, I would really love, I wanna say it, I wanna say it's Seattle, I think they got it.
46:53
[SPEAKER_03]: I just I think they're a better built team.
46:56
[SPEAKER_03]: They're more secure.
46:57
[SPEAKER_03]: And honestly, I just kind of like Sam Donnell want to see him succeed.
47:01
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's go.
47:01
[SPEAKER_05]: The marble man's descended.
47:03
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they're okay.
47:04
[SPEAKER_03]: Better today.
47:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Very dick hammer.
47:07
[SPEAKER_05]: I think Andrew said last week your mic was blowing everybody else away, but it's much better today.
47:16
[SPEAKER_05]: So, all right, Savocco, stop yelling Savocco's with Seattle.
47:22
[SPEAKER_05]: Mike, I still want to keep calling you Olivia.
47:26
[SPEAKER_05]: That's all right.
47:26
[SPEAKER_04]: You can stick with it.
47:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been called worse going on with a little bit of a fight don't let it get away He gets mad when his every team on his life.
47:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate They don't let him get away with anything.
47:35
[SPEAKER_05]: I respect that I got I I'm upset with myself as long as I've known Mike But I'm trying to I'm trying to retrain the brain so Mike.
47:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, I sent him to me my address I sent him my address because you didn't have it and you know for something needed for and he was gonna type back You typed your name wrong
47:50
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's a funny game.
47:52
[SPEAKER_05]: I have to get it wrong.
47:53
[SPEAKER_05]: Like how about the audacity on me?
47:55
[SPEAKER_05]: Like fucking guy kidding me, it's Bella's own name, right?
47:57
[SPEAKER_05]: And then I go look it up on like, holy shh.
48:00
[SPEAKER_05]: It's actually your leave.
48:02
[SPEAKER_05]: What is wrong with me?
48:04
[SPEAKER_05]: Like what is wrong with me that I've been calm on the wrong thing all this time, typing it wrongly entire time.
48:09
[SPEAKER_05]: But what's really wrong with me that I assumed that he was wrong and that I was right.
48:13
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's only his name that he's had, you know, his entire life.
48:16
[SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, Michael leave a hoodie a pic for the Super Bowl.
48:19
[SPEAKER_04]: I like Seattle in the game.
48:21
[SPEAKER_04]: I also think they're going to cover the spread for those you that are into that kind of thing.
48:25
[SPEAKER_04]: I think they are just a more well-rounded team and I love this game because it's just misery for Jet's fans.
48:31
[SPEAKER_04]: Sam Donald on one side who they picked and let go, and then the Patriots who always beat their brains in year after year for 20 years, the Jet's fans are just in other misery right now.
48:39
[SPEAKER_04]: And I love it, but I think Seattle wins.
48:41
[SPEAKER_04]: I think they cover, I don't think it's going to be close, but I don't think it's going to be like 35-10 either.
48:47
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's going to be a nice, healthy 14-point win for Seattle.
48:51
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, interesting.
48:53
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, Jay McDuffie.
48:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, I mean, look, I talked about Drake May, Salat, Salat Player, man, I've got some good, really good defense.
49:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I do like Mike Frable.
49:07
[SPEAKER_00]: But with all that being said, I hate the hatred.
49:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
49:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate the hatred, I hate the jokes, I hate the codes, I hate the bills.
49:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And like Mike said, though, this Seattle team, they ran through the toughest division.
49:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I think maybe in the history of football, the beat of the Rams are only team.
49:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that could score on this team.
49:35
[SPEAKER_00]: and a beat the ramps three times right with a two or three times three three times the ramps were that team that division itself was a monster and for them to get through all that and then get to the super bowl and not win it that would be crazy I think that that team is so stacked defensively they're incredible offensively they're so solid running the football and it's
49:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Smith and Jigma.
49:58
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, does that name, I say it?
50:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
50:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not touching it.
50:01
[SPEAKER_00]: The best receiver in football right now with there's a debate the other day about whether it was, you know, all chasing all those guys and and puke and all this guy is the best receiver in football and people game plan.
50:14
[SPEAKER_00]: This was you're real quick.
50:15
[SPEAKER_00]: This was maybe so mad about the dolphins.
50:18
[SPEAKER_00]: People game planning against this guy and he still gets 10 to 12
50:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Who else on the opposite side of him that you know that you got a game plan to guess it ain't cool for cup of that age Talking about right there.
50:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and we were all killing water.
50:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Got a ring to see They'll they will travel.
50:40
[SPEAKER_00]: They got money.
50:41
[SPEAKER_00]: They're close.
50:42
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they live right there And they got to travel a little south and they write it home.
50:47
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so I got to see her
50:49
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, everybody picked the Seahawks.
50:51
[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like the Seahawks are nice, nice reference they're saying, nice reference.
50:57
[SPEAKER_05]: I think the Seahawks are the smart pick.
51:01
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think everything, I agree with everybody here.
51:03
[SPEAKER_05]: They're, they are the better football team.
51:07
[SPEAKER_05]: I think,
51:08
[SPEAKER_05]: We saw what the Patriots all the quarterback backs and the court people who got five teams at fire their coaches and you know I mean they definitely had kind of this is the dominoes were set really well for them but there's just I don't know man there's something about the way that they're playing there's something about about the way Brable has got them just kind of believing in
51:38
[SPEAKER_05]: And he is watched, not Hall of Fame coaches, game plan on how to take away what other teams do best.
51:49
[SPEAKER_05]: And I feel like I just feel like they're going to keep that game closer than people anticipate.
51:53
[SPEAKER_05]: And if they keep it close, they might just give themselves a chance to pull off an upset.
51:57
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what I say.
51:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Who tell you picking, man?
51:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to hear all that.
52:00
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, a fuck it.
52:01
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll just go with the Patriots.
52:02
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll just pick the Patriots because I, you know, just just to be counter-cultry here.
52:07
[SPEAKER_04]: And I could say when he's going to take this clip and say, see, I picked the Patriots.
52:13
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, you made it.
52:13
[SPEAKER_05]: You put my hand in the fire.
52:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Try to tell y'all.
52:16
[SPEAKER_04]: It's right.
52:16
[SPEAKER_04]: It's got one.
52:17
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll be and I try to tell y'all.
52:18
[SPEAKER_05]: And I won't write it 17 minutes before everybody shows starts.
52:22
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'll tell you about that.
52:24
[SPEAKER_05]: I think that somehow some way my Emmy finds a way to catch the end of the way.
52:27
[SPEAKER_05]: Paul.
52:28
[SPEAKER_05]: I like that Sam.
52:29
[SPEAKER_05]: I like that.
52:30
[SPEAKER_05]: This could be the one halfway gets off.
52:32
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, he's just going to skip the whole.
52:34
[SPEAKER_05]: They still won't have won a playoff game in 25 years, which is part of my try to tell y'all.
52:39
[SPEAKER_05]: But he's going to skip all that just when it's over.
52:41
[SPEAKER_05]: I like it.
52:42
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
52:42
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's roll right into that juice.
52:44
[SPEAKER_05]: I guess you're going to kind of just warm us up on this.
52:46
[SPEAKER_05]: I try to tell you.
52:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
52:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
52:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to Emma warm you up because I really,
52:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Red Fox, the Oculus and ITs and Cousins, and uh...
53:06
[SPEAKER_00]: We, they cursed a lot, you know, and for me, I realize when I come on with y'all or Wednesday nights that I curse a lot.
53:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And so what I decided to do was tell y'all that, and you haven't even noticed, I counted them on the curse twice tonight.
53:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Two times, two times.
53:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And there were little words.
53:27
[SPEAKER_00]: There weren't any of the big words, you know what I mean?
53:29
[SPEAKER_00]: So what I'm trying to tell y'all is that my upbringing was not the best.
53:34
[SPEAKER_00]: And that, you know, I was having some bad influences sneaking around listening to Richard prior records and things like that.
53:41
[SPEAKER_00]: But I hope this new regime rips the hell out of some of these players when they're not performing at their optimum level.
53:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't mind playing football and being accustomed when I'm not doing what I'm supposed to do.
53:56
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, I've had it.
53:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody got, I've had it.
54:00
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, before I got the high school my high school co-stained cuss, Joe paternal didn't cuss, you weren't out of cuss.
54:06
[SPEAKER_00]: But after that, I was introduced to the coaching realm where trust him was prevalent.
54:12
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a big real like man, he's big sad.
54:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
54:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So I tried to tell you all that, I'm going to try to trust last, but I don't mind somebody's players getting their ass cussed down.
54:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I tried to tell you.
54:22
[SPEAKER_05]: Very nice.
54:23
[SPEAKER_05]: Very nice.
54:24
[SPEAKER_05]: I was wondering where you're going with it.
54:25
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought you were hanging your leaf.
54:27
[SPEAKER_05]: And I want to know who called you out on the cousin.
54:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Who are you?
54:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I just know that sometimes, you know, it ain't for everybody.
54:35
[SPEAKER_05]: But so on now.
54:36
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, you know, there's other options.
54:39
[SPEAKER_05]: So, but fair enough.
54:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Try to get one in.
54:40
[SPEAKER_00]: No, shit.
54:44
[SPEAKER_05]: There it is.
54:45
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, Savak.
54:48
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah, crank up the mic everybody.
54:51
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's go crank up screaming out, am I?
54:54
[SPEAKER_03]: You're my good.
54:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
55:16
[SPEAKER_03]: kind of, you know, a little bit simple.
55:20
[SPEAKER_03]: I try to tell y'all, we are long overdue to change that damn logo.
55:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
55:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, look, I have admired Stephen Ross's knack for real estate, his Panache, and trying to do more with less and more like an understand the urge to want to put your personal personal, personal fingerprint on your work.
55:40
[SPEAKER_03]: What's the old adage?
55:42
[SPEAKER_03]: If it ain't
55:44
[SPEAKER_03]: which is exactly what they tried to do when they updated the logo back in 2013.
55:50
[SPEAKER_03]: And presented us with this abomination that looks like the logo steel world would use if they started their own airline.
55:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I can imagine that meeting right now.
56:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Some hot shop marketer sold Mr. Ross on the dream, the vision, look at the dolphin swimming strongly about to take the leap, but never quite getting out of the water.
56:13
[SPEAKER_03]: And quite honestly, I don't think there's a better representation of the last decade or so of Miami dolphins football than this logo right here.
56:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, because it's exactly what those teams have been like, teeming with hope, but ultimately, underwhelming and under delivery.
56:33
[SPEAKER_03]: And as a fan, looking at the franchise today, as we stand on the precipice of what appears to be a brand new era of dolphins football,
56:42
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm calling on the brain trust down there to get and Steven Ross's ear and get him to give us a logo more appropriate for a storied franchise like ours.
56:52
[SPEAKER_03]: So that in a few years when it's been changed and the team is kicking so much ass, you'll all probably go blind.
57:00
[SPEAKER_03]: We can look back and remember that I tried to tell you.
57:04
[SPEAKER_03]: That was good one.
57:06
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a good one.
57:07
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't get out of water.
57:11
[SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
57:13
[SPEAKER_04]: It's an overweight, well, that's struggling.
57:17
[SPEAKER_05]: I kind of like four mayonnaise words in there too.
57:20
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I know.
57:21
[SPEAKER_05]: How about the adage though?
57:22
[SPEAKER_03]: What are you doing?
57:23
[SPEAKER_03]: Just for you.
57:24
[SPEAKER_03]: Just for you.
57:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Just for you.
57:27
[SPEAKER_05]: Just for you.
57:28
[SPEAKER_05]: Four mayonnaise words to only one course word.
57:30
[SPEAKER_05]: I love it.
57:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
57:31
[SPEAKER_05]: It's right.
57:32
[SPEAKER_05]: It's right.
57:33
[SPEAKER_05]: It's right.
57:34
[SPEAKER_05]: It's right.
57:37
[SPEAKER_05]: It's right.
57:39
[SPEAKER_05]: It's right.
57:40
[SPEAKER_05]: It's right.
57:41
[SPEAKER_05]: It's right.
57:41
[SPEAKER_05]: It's right.
57:42
[SPEAKER_05]: It's right.
57:42
[SPEAKER_05]: It's right.
57:44
[SPEAKER_03]: It's right.
57:44
[SPEAKER_03]: It's right.
57:45
[SPEAKER_05]: Here's what we got.
57:46
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just, you are a bomb in ACO, merrily.
57:48
[SPEAKER_05]: A bomb in the shion.
57:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, it's a Super Bowl this weekend.
57:51
[SPEAKER_04]: We all hate the Patriots.
57:52
[SPEAKER_04]: We all can agree.
57:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Screw the Patriots.
57:54
[SPEAKER_04]: And they're back in this game.
57:56
[SPEAKER_04]: But one thing I've heard over and over again, and I'm sick of hearing, is that the Patriots are lucky.
58:00
[SPEAKER_04]: Look, we're all fans that are often really the Patriots, let's just be honest, some real talk.
58:04
[SPEAKER_04]: They look either smart.
58:06
[SPEAKER_04]: When they see a problem, they fix it, and the other thing they do right is they overinvest in the quarterback position.
58:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, my aim has been sitting around
58:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Hoping wishing and praying might make Daniel would become a good head coach.
58:19
[SPEAKER_04]: The Patriots were fire in Jordan, Mayow after one season because they saw the handwriting on the wall real quick.
58:25
[SPEAKER_04]: They saw a problem.
58:26
[SPEAKER_04]: They fixed the problem Look where they are this weekend.
58:29
[SPEAKER_04]: They're also smart enough to constantly invest in a quarterback
58:33
[SPEAKER_04]: until they got it right.
58:35
[SPEAKER_04]: While Miami gave Ryan 10, it was seven years to a six years and didn't have a legit second string or the whole time for either one of them.
58:43
[SPEAKER_04]: It didn't use any high-round picks to bring in any other quarterbacks to push them.
58:47
[SPEAKER_04]: The Patriots take the other approach.
58:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Tom Brady when he was peak Tom Brady.
58:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Look at this because I looked it up.
58:53
[SPEAKER_04]: When they had Tom Brady, they took Ryan, mallet, and around 3 and 2011.
58:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Jimmy grew up alone around 2 and 2014.
59:01
[SPEAKER_04]: Jacobi, for a set around 3 and 2015, and a 2019 Jared Stidham.
59:08
[SPEAKER_04]: And once Tom Brady left, they took Matt Jones, when that didn't work, it took Matt.
59:11
[SPEAKER_04]: And guess what?
59:12
[SPEAKER_04]: The year they took Matt, and that same draft, they took Joe Milton around six, because they're like, one of these two are gonna work out, we don't know, we don't care.
59:21
[SPEAKER_04]: Here's the deal.
59:21
[SPEAKER_04]: At once, may prove he's the guy.
59:24
[SPEAKER_04]: They took a meal, who they took around six, and they treat him for a pick around five the following year.
59:28
[SPEAKER_04]: They didn't lucky that smart.
59:30
[SPEAKER_04]: The NFL's a cold business folks, but if you want to win, you'll file the Patriots' way.
59:35
[SPEAKER_04]: And the Patriots' way is not pro-ball a check.
59:37
[SPEAKER_04]: The Patriots' way is not Tom Brady.
59:39
[SPEAKER_04]: The Patriots' way is see a problem, fix a problem.
59:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't care about public perception, and also keep drafting quarterbacks till you get it right.
59:47
[SPEAKER_04]: And once you get it right, keep drafting more of them.
59:49
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the Patriots' way.
59:50
[SPEAKER_04]: So I try to tell you all the Patriots ain't lucky.
59:53
[SPEAKER_04]: There's smart, and it pains me to say that.
59:55
[SPEAKER_04]: Hopefully it lose by a hundred this weekend, but it luck if they win.
1:00:00
[SPEAKER_03]: I just wanted to point out real quick, but those GMs, both the GMs and the Super Bowl, they both have some green bay packer front office experience, and they both credit their time with green bay with their development.
1:00:13
[SPEAKER_05]: We should have just, we should have turned our damn mics down today.
1:00:19
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, okay, Savak and Mike just bringing it, I love it, if it might go Olivia in quotes, I love it too good, too good.
1:00:27
[SPEAKER_05]: I tried to tell y'all that with great power comes great responsibility.
1:00:33
[SPEAKER_05]: Actually, that was Benjamin Franklin Parker, you know, otherwise known as Uncle Band of those of us who were closest to him, you know, the guy from the Spider-Man comics, but that's neither here nor there.
1:00:42
[SPEAKER_05]: So, yes, with great power comes great responsibility, and it's one of only 32 head coaches in the National Football League.
1:00:50
[SPEAKER_05]: As a man who now dawns the same title as the dawn himself, Jeff Hathley indeed has great,
1:01:01
[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm not sure if you're aware of this, gentlemen, but the Miami Dolphins have not won a playoff game since December 30th, 2000.
1:01:09
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, the glorious memory of Lamar Smith rumbling 17 yards for a walk off over time, touchdown, sending future Hall of Famers
1:01:17
[SPEAKER_05]: Peyton Manning, Marvin Harrison, and Edge and James on that long walk of shame home took place 25 years ago.
1:01:25
[SPEAKER_05]: A quarter century has passed since the Miami Dolphins Accounting Department has last cut a winning playoff jet.
1:01:32
[SPEAKER_05]: With Braun James celebrated his 60th birthday as my partner in podcast crime was hurling across the goal line himself.
1:01:40
[SPEAKER_05]: index finger waving in the air, half of our roster ran into the locker room juice to grab their Nokia cell phones to set up their post-game dates anywhere on my space, too, I think.
1:01:51
[SPEAKER_05]: Seahawks quarterback Sam Darnell was still shipping his diapers, but he was three, but he's always been a late bloomer for what I understand.
1:01:59
[SPEAKER_05]: While a painter at the quarterback Drake May wasn't even a glimmer in his father's eye.
1:02:03
[SPEAKER_05]: Hell, Mike Vrable had just completed an 18 tackle season for the Pittsburgh Steelers unaware of how his life was about to change.
1:02:14
[SPEAKER_05]: And guess what else?
1:02:15
[SPEAKER_05]: Dave wants to look like he picked up right where Jimmy Johnson left off.
1:02:19
[SPEAKER_05]: He had just delivered the first to back to back eleven and five seasons and we all believed him six years later, however, that belief had long passed us by.
1:02:28
[SPEAKER_05]: The wants that era was laughed at.
1:02:31
[SPEAKER_05]: Of course, little did we know.
1:02:32
[SPEAKER_05]: It would become looked upon as the glory days for so many of Dolphins fans that we hang out with today.
1:02:39
[SPEAKER_05]: The Dolphins were going on an epic run of head coaches that included
1:02:42
[SPEAKER_05]: a guy that was not going to be the Alabama head coach, a guy who failed forward fast, like really fast, a guy who loved field goals like I love Mountain Dew, a guy who made sure your shoes were tied and gum wrappers made their way into garbage cans and on and on it went.
1:02:59
[SPEAKER_05]: But something else happened six years after that glorious blacked out December after noon, good old diamond Dave Wands that gave a young and hungry defensive backs coach from Albany a shot to be a GA for his pit panthers.
1:03:13
[SPEAKER_05]: Young Jeff Haftley joined Wands that staff and in some strange and twisted way, wanting handed him a torch with a really delayed flame so that his graduate assistant would one day take on the role that Dave wants some body.
1:03:28
[SPEAKER_05]: And so here we are, the student has become the master and I'm not saying Dave wants that is the mustache version of Obi-Wan Kenobi, but heavy is the head that wears the crown and half has his hands full with power and responsibility, responsibility to Steve Ross and to Sully, to acmon into marina, responsibility to the coaches and players in that building, but also responsibility to you.
1:03:51
[SPEAKER_05]: the fans, to us, the podcasters, to the city of Miami, to the legacy of this once-great franchise, it all rests on half's shoulders now.
1:04:02
[SPEAKER_05]: And how sweet would it be if a diamond-daved disciple broke the curse and brought us back to, well, hell, at the very least, the days of one step.
1:04:12
[SPEAKER_05]: This is what is facing Jeff Haffley right now.
1:04:15
[SPEAKER_05]: This is the standard that must be set, the expectations that we all have.
1:04:20
[SPEAKER_05]: The Miami Dolphins belong in the playoffs every year, and they need to start winning postseason games.
1:04:26
[SPEAKER_05]: With great power comes great responsibility fellas, and Jeff Haffley better be ready for it.
1:04:32
[SPEAKER_05]: I tried to tell you all.
1:04:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's go.
1:04:36
[SPEAKER_04]: The Dave wants that days every turn and I love it.
1:04:39
[SPEAKER_04]: No, what?
1:04:39
[SPEAKER_04]: We don't want that days.
1:04:41
[SPEAKER_04]: He won a lot of games in Miami.
1:04:45
[SPEAKER_05]: Andrew, I'm hurt.
1:04:46
[SPEAKER_05]: I wrote that, David.
1:04:50
[SPEAKER_05]: Like 20 minutes ago before it was so started.
1:04:52
[SPEAKER_05]: He really did.
1:04:52
[SPEAKER_05]: He called.
1:04:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Speaking through what I've said to get here to the cast about is that I am a brave one steady call that I love it.
1:05:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I call them Diamond Dave.
1:05:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll stay there to y'all.
1:05:05
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a good one.
1:05:06
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so good.
1:05:07
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a good man.
1:05:08
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, fellas, this was a lot of fun.
1:05:09
[SPEAKER_05]: Who knew that you could have this much fun in the offseason, but then again, the Miami Dolphins know how to keep everybody busy during the offseason.
1:05:16
[SPEAKER_00]: So do they win it every year?
1:05:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Great stuff.
1:05:19
[SPEAKER_05]: And if you've stuck with us this long, I also want to say, there's going to be more announcements to come, but juicin' I have been in some really cool talks with Michael Leva, not Michael Livia.
1:05:29
[SPEAKER_05]: Michael Livia is old news, Michael Leva.
1:05:31
[SPEAKER_05]: We've been in some cool talks.
1:05:33
[SPEAKER_05]: There might be some cool partnerships between the fish tank and dolphins talk coming up this season.
1:05:37
[SPEAKER_05]: So stay tuned for more information on that.
1:05:41
[SPEAKER_05]: And I hope we see everybody a week from today.
1:05:43
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll do it again.
1:05:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, we got some good talk, right?
1:05:47
[SPEAKER_00]: We got to.
1:05:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, this is some to Patriots so when I can't sit through other Patriots that I can't do it Wait, I'm not gonna be able to sew it.
1:05:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't do it.
1:05:57
[SPEAKER_05]: I gotta try and tell y'all if they do I know you do it.
1:06:01
[SPEAKER_05]: You just told us how smart they are That's why nobody's gonna show up.
1:06:04
[SPEAKER_03]: They are smart.
1:06:04
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to win.
1:06:05
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we smart and lose I don't want them to win.
1:06:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want them to win.
1:06:08
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sitting out the entire next season Like Thanos said, it's inevitable There we are
1:06:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm gonna pin that piece of tape.
1:06:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Who that?
1:06:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Fitting down with self-living stuff.
1:06:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Jake, true, true, true.
1:06:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, eh, this is strictly for them true big offense.
1:06:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Number one.
1:06:33
[SPEAKER_01]: One, of course, y'all.
1:06:34
[SPEAKER_01]: This ain't all the nearest ones, y'all.
1:06:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna pin that piece of tape.
1:06:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't get show.
1:06:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I go on.
1:06:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It's time to double pin that piece of tape.
1:06:44
[SPEAKER_01]: It's on the legend that we talking when you double pin that piece of tape.