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Joe Tacopina | Defense Attorney Speaks on Jack Smith Criminal Referral · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Tacopina not just the best defense attorney in the world,
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  Speaker 1: but army ranger and spends a lot of time with
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  Speaker 1: our best army people and is privy to some information.
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  Speaker 1: And we've been talking back and forth about this and
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  Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine to nine percent of the time
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  Speaker 1: in general agreement about this effort with Iran, and it
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  Speaker 1: does seem now Lewis and Justin and know him, like
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  Speaker 1: everybody else, is starting to come on over because at
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  Speaker 1: this point, how can you not? How can you not?
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  Speaker 1: And again I want to get a member polled. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure what that is. But again, I want
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  Speaker 1: to make it very clear that I am not angry
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  Speaker 1: with President Trump at all. I loved Midnight Hammer. That
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  Speaker 1: was an exceptional operation, and they even liked Operation Epic
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  Speaker 1: Fury thought that was important. I just the last couple
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  Speaker 1: of months, I'm trying to figure out what we're doing.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not angry with Trump. I think he made
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  Speaker 1: the right decision. I think it was the courageous, right
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  Speaker 1: decision to do this. But he's got people that need
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  Speaker 1: to execute better and game plan better. That's the issue.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not mad at Trump. Damn it, Trump did something
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  Speaker 1: all these presidents should have done. Iran is a threat
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  Speaker 1: to America, not just Israel, but the Jew haters out there,
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  Speaker 1: to America and the world. They need to be fixed,
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  Speaker 1: if you will, and Trump did it. I actually congratulate
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  Speaker 1: President Trump, and I have an issue with the with
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  Speaker 1: the president. It's a lot of people around them that
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  Speaker 1: can't figure it out. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think
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  Speaker 1: I've been right most of the way, and I know
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  Speaker 1: you've been Joseph Tacopina.
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  Speaker 2: So good morning, Good morning brother. How you doing well? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you nailed it again. You nailed it again.
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  Speaker 2: It's uh, it's exactly look and it's great that you're
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  Speaker 2: able to do that because I know how close you
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  Speaker 2: are the president, how much support them. I obviously am too.
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  Speaker 2: I support this country. But you know you're calling it
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  Speaker 2: the way it is it on this on this situation,
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  Speaker 2: because let me tell you something. There is an asymmetric
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  Speaker 2: war going on right now. And what I mean by
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  Speaker 2: that is, you know, where are we trying to do?
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  Speaker 2: I rant, what are they trying to do to us?
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  Speaker 2: We are trying to impose pain, show our force, our
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  Speaker 2: mighty you know, the captain, bring them to their needs.
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  Speaker 2: What is Iran trying to do to us. They're trying
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  Speaker 2: to impose costs. These are two very different things. They're
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  Speaker 2: trying to drag this thing off. And so, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's a little difficult right now because you know, so
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  Speaker 2: we've been saying this for months. Every time we hear
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  Speaker 2: that the ceasefire, there's a memo of understanding, we've won.
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  Speaker 2: It's just it's just works and and and unfortunately, I
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  Speaker 2: just don't see an end in sight anytime soon. And
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  Speaker 2: that's that's where we, uh, you know, where we have
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  Speaker 2: a problem.
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  Speaker 1: We might you don't see you don't see an anytime
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  Speaker 1: in suit and anytime soon, I should say. And one
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  Speaker 1: of the things you said on this program, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: wondering if you're going to stick by that, is that
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  Speaker 1: the American munitions are probably lower than Americans realize, and
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  Speaker 1: the run, well, they're getting weapons from a bunch of places.
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  Speaker 1: Do you still believe that.
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  Speaker 2: It's a fact that it's not whether I believe it again,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not, you know, an expert in this stuff. I'm
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  Speaker 2: listening to the people who who are and who are there,
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  Speaker 2: and the fact of the matter is, yes, our munitions
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  Speaker 2: are low and the mmunitions that count are low and
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  Speaker 2: brands they're just not I mean, they haven't nearly fired
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  Speaker 2: as much as weets fired. They're saving some of their
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  Speaker 2: big boys, and they have these allies China, Russia. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: these these countries are it's thrilled to see this war
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  Speaker 2: continue and go on. So, yes, that's the problems that
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  Speaker 2: you just know, that's the practical problem now publicly, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I guess the administration can't say that. They won't say that,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a fact. It's just a fact.
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  Speaker 1: So when you say you don't see an insight further
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  Speaker 1: to be an end, whether it's soon or a long
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  Speaker 1: time from now. I've maintained all along that this idea
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  Speaker 1: of no regime change is silly because you have to
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  Speaker 1: bottom line is you know, the dust and the straight
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  Speaker 1: and all that fantastic. But if you leave these IRGC
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  Speaker 1: guys in power, and you're gonna have the same exact
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  Speaker 1: issues maybe three years, maybe five years, maybe seven years
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  Speaker 1: that we're trying to eradicate now, and you'll look back
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  Speaker 1: and say, well, what the hell, why do we do that? Right,
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  Speaker 1: So you can't just leave the bad guys in charge.
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  Speaker 1: And even though we've killed a lot of them. Congratulations,
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  Speaker 1: we have. They got plenty more, plenty more. There's no
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  Speaker 1: way to win this unless it's hard to make sure
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  Speaker 1: this but at the very least decimate these animals that
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  Speaker 1: are still calling the shots. You'll agree with that.
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  Speaker 2: It's one hundred true. I mean, we're here now. Whether
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  Speaker 2: we should have been here or not, that's a different story.
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  Speaker 2: It's to debatable, and it stop, it doesn't matter at
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  Speaker 2: this point. We're here now, so we'd have to really
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  Speaker 2: go in there annihilation, boots on the ground, do what
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  Speaker 2: we do to win everyone, because you cannot win a war,
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  Speaker 2: even in this modern age of drones and AI, you
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  Speaker 2: can't do it without boots on the ground. That's a fact.
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  Speaker 2: And don't forget where the uranium the airstrike. As much
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  Speaker 2: as we want, we're not going to get to where
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  Speaker 2: we need to be. And and yes, if we don't
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  Speaker 2: get a regime change to this is this will go
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  Speaker 2: on for thirnity. All we've done was was was was
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  Speaker 2: Poka Hornet says, now, right, so you know, the guy
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  Speaker 2: who's the leader now was the son of the former
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  Speaker 2: leader we killed, So there's there's a ragion of purity
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  Speaker 2: there so if we don't enact with regime change, this
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  Speaker 2: is going to go on way past our lifetimes. And
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  Speaker 2: what you're seeing right now said is the US is
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  Speaker 2: fighting a conventional war against Dran. We believe that if
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  Speaker 2: we strike enough targets in Iran, cause enough damage, is
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  Speaker 2: sure enough capability, they'll capitulate. The Orange. Theory of success
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  Speaker 2: in this war is just to keep US spending and
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  Speaker 2: imposing costs and outlet the US in time. And so
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  Speaker 2: this theory really centers on economic aspects and time aspects,
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  Speaker 2: which translates into politics. As we're seeing now.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me, Joseph Tacopina, the DOJ's effort to prove perjury
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  Speaker 1: on trader Jack Smith? Is that going to be successful?
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  Speaker 2: You know? Sid It remains to be seen, it really does.
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  Speaker 2: The stories evolved from beyond the referral itself. Now now
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  Speaker 2: Jack Smith's obviously and his attorneys are denying it. This
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  Speaker 2: case will ultimately come down to exactly what question jack
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  Speaker 2: Smith was asked and exactly how his answer is interpreted.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, it's a criminal referral doesn't mean criminal
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  Speaker 2: charges as you know, you know, but the politics allowed here.
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  Speaker 2: But the legal issue is really pretty narrow sid the
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  Speaker 2: questions and whether Congress disagrees with Jack Smith. It's where
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  Speaker 2: the prosecutors can prove beyond the reasonable out that he
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  Speaker 2: knowingly made materially full statements under oaths. And that's that's
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  Speaker 2: a that's a heavy, heavy road. That's a heavy road,
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  Speaker 2: you know. And it reminds us. This story reminds us
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  Speaker 2: and people have to refect her Congressional testimony matters. It's
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  Speaker 2: not political grandstanding. You have to be very very careful
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  Speaker 2: when you go into that room with your former special
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  Speaker 2: counselor anyone else. The expectations the same. Complete candor under
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  Speaker 2: oath is an obligation and at the same time, and
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  Speaker 2: allegations alone ar improve the legal process, not politics. W
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  Speaker 2: will determine whether anything more comes to this. But it's
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  Speaker 2: a real referral. It's a real referral. And you know
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  Speaker 2: it's another four Todd Blanche. I mean, the guy's trying
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  Speaker 2: to get confirmed here and and and you know he's
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  Speaker 2: got another hot potato because this is a political hotbit.
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  Speaker 2: No matter where he co with this thing. You know,
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  Speaker 2: if he charges us over prosecutor who he worked with,
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  Speaker 2: does not new Jack in the Justice Department. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's one thing. If he doesn't, you'll probably draw the
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  Speaker 2: ire of somebody he works for. So you know, I think,
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  Speaker 2: I think we have to see how this plays out.
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  Speaker 2: But I you know, again, no charges at this point,
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  Speaker 2: right the committees refer the matter. So really it's I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna be a the federal prosecutors that ultimately Todd Blanche
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  Speaker 2: whether this gets prosecuted or not. So it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: tough because again it has to be you have to
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  Speaker 2: look at the exact question he would ask, not what
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  Speaker 2: you know, the the overall tenor of a sessimony. When
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  Speaker 2: you're talking about perjury, you have to have a direct
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  Speaker 2: material misrepresentation misquote. So if someone tested the lies, that's it.
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  Speaker 2: That's a serious matter. But but if there's any ambiguity
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  Speaker 2: in what the question was and the answer or the
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  Speaker 2: answer leaves room for alternative interpretations of that question, there's
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  Speaker 2: no charges. So I think we're still a long way
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  Speaker 2: away from it. But look, you know what we've seen
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  Speaker 2: this before. Do you get into that that room under
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  Speaker 2: oath in front of Congress, you know, in this day
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  Speaker 2: and age of political mayhem, where you know everything is
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  Speaker 2: so partisan, you better be ready to make sure you
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  Speaker 2: can stand by every word of your testimony. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we saw that with with Tomy and whatnot. So I
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  Speaker 2: think this is really it's gonna be interesting to see
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  Speaker 2: how it plays out. I think it's still a long
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  Speaker 2: way between here and there when it comes to charge injection. Though.
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  Speaker 1: All right, this is my dear friend, nearly five decades,
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  Speaker 1: the best defensive attorney in the world. On a Friday
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  Speaker 1: regular he is always greatest. Great again today, Joseph takapina.
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  Speaker 1: One more for you, Joseph, and that is Mam Donnie
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be be arrested, and we knew, of course
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  Speaker 1: that can't happen. Nobody cares about the ICC in America.
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  Speaker 1: It's a kangaroo Juwe hayting. It's really a phony court,
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  Speaker 1: is what it is. And but he pays attention to
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  Speaker 1: it here in America. So we knew from the very
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  Speaker 1: beginning that, you know, was there a chance? There was
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  Speaker 1: never a chance. I can't believe the media even brought
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  Speaker 1: up the question. There was never ever ever a chance.
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  Speaker 1: But the mayor doesn't care because his base hates the Jews,
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  Speaker 1: and he promised he's gonna arrest Beebe, so he's got
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  Speaker 1: to play the part even though he knows better. But
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  Speaker 1: then people said to me, wait a second. Even as
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  Speaker 1: down and dursty with this, he threatened to arrest Bbe.
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  Speaker 1: He knew, he knew he couldn't do that. Why can
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  Speaker 1: we arrest him? Why can we arrest mom Donnie? But
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  Speaker 1: threatening to arrest Bbe, you know, there's got to be
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  Speaker 1: something that says he can't do that is an elected official.
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  Speaker 1: What about those chances?
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  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, there really is nothing that that limits
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  Speaker 2: what he can chase the elected officials in that regard
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  Speaker 2: that being said, you know, I mean, campaign rhetoric is
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  Speaker 2: one thing, and this guy is if you listen to
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  Speaker 2: everything he said in his campaign, he's delivered on exactly
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  Speaker 2: nothing that he's promised all these morons on TikTok who
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  Speaker 2: voted him, but that we have free red, free food,
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  Speaker 2: free transportation pre every day. They could stand the couches
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  Speaker 2: all day, not after work, and be taken care of him.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously that didn't work out so well. But that's a
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  Speaker 2: socialist way, right. But but you know, campaign writers, wanting
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  Speaker 2: government requires understanding, and when you governed, you should be
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  Speaker 2: charged with understanding the limits of your authority. It's a joke.
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  Speaker 2: The mayor is responsible for running this city, the largest
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  Speaker 2: city in this country, not setting US foreign policy, you moron.
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  Speaker 2: And and you know, if you don't have the legal
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  Speaker 2: authority to do something, you really shouldn't campaign as though
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  Speaker 2: you do. And I don't. I can't believe for a
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  Speaker 2: second he was told or he thought he could truly
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  Speaker 2: arrest a foreign prime minister in New York based on
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  Speaker 2: political ideology. It's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I
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  Speaker 2: can't believe it's got any traction, like you just said,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's unbelievable. You know, the New Yorkers hired mayor,
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  Speaker 2: and I can't even see New Yorkers, the idiots who
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  Speaker 2: were who succumb to this phony campaign really hire a
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  Speaker 2: mayor that liles you know. They wanted to leave the
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  Speaker 2: city and doing things like, you know, governing, public safety, affordability,
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  Speaker 2: all these iss use that are important to any any citizen,
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  Speaker 2: whether you know you're a fan of this guy or not.
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  Speaker 2: The issues of a mayor actually has nothing to do
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  Speaker 2: with that, you know, I mean, the campaign promises collide
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  Speaker 2: with the constitution, said is no legal basis to do this,
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  Speaker 2: you know, And but you know, but this guy's made
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  Speaker 2: a living out of the quote that is easy to
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  Speaker 2: promise where you don't have the power to deliver, right,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how's that pre renting going right now? You know,
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  Speaker 2: how's the free bus rides? How's the free food? So
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  Speaker 2: you know, the mayor's first legal opinion should have come
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  Speaker 2: before the campaign promise, not after it. And this guy's
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  Speaker 2: just the client. He seas to amaze me, and and
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  Speaker 2: and you know all the slights he takes. Of course
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  Speaker 2: that Israel now, of course that that the the Italian heritage.
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  Speaker 2: At this he's a disgrace. He's a disgrace. And and
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  Speaker 2: the fact that at nine to eleven, now, I've spoken
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  Speaker 2: to so many Special Forces officers and and and Special
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  Speaker 2: Operations Forces officers, people who I can break close with
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  Speaker 2: and come from my community. They are gas. They're appalled
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  Speaker 2: that this guy who is if you really do your
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  Speaker 2: homework on him and his family and his father and
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  Speaker 2: his wife, you can see easily that he is he
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  Speaker 2: hates this country and what we stand for. Okay, he's
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  Speaker 2: the gee hottest in my opinion. So I really don't
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  Speaker 2: think that that him being at nine to eleven, someone
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  Speaker 2: who's said some horrific things about this country, and whose
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  Speaker 2: family has said some horrific things about particularly Don eleven.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's just that the whole thing is is
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  Speaker 2: is no sing to me. And then when I see
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  Speaker 2: this kind of nonsense, you know, it just cuts the
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  Speaker 2: credibility of our country. And when when you know, imagine
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  Speaker 2: like a local mayor is going to arrest the prime
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  Speaker 2: minister without legal cause, without legal authority, but just saying
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  Speaker 2: it is so stupid. Anyway, I'm sure you've talked about.
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  Speaker 1: This once once twice, and once or twice. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if you go on Twitter, you never saw somebody curse.
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  Speaker 1: You ended up all the curses on Twitter for the day.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't beaten like one two hundred and fifty word
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  Speaker 1: tweet because I just I despise this guys.
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  Speaker 2: I hate them. It's impressive. I've I've seen some of
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  Speaker 2: your tweets, and but again you you absolutely have the
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  Speaker 2: ability to fit the largest amount of cursewords and great part,
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  Speaker 2: but it's impressive. It's impressive because you're making your point.
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  Speaker 1: But I do get the point across. Yeah, yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: and there's a lot of this and that's that. But
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  Speaker 1: at any rate, I hate a Scott Send. I don't
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  Speaker 1: make any bones about it, but I love you. Another
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  Speaker 1: amazing appearance on this Friday morning, Joseph Tacopina, thank you
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  Speaker 1: so much. Enjoy this gorgeous weekend. We'll do it again
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  Speaker 1: next week. Great job.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Jojo Okay, brother, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: My man, Joseph Tacopina right here on Sitting Friends in
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