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Patriots Unfiltered 12/30: Jets Recap, Division Champs, AFC/Playoff Picture · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 3: I heard Evan you pooh pooing the whole thing that
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  Speaker 3: this might be a tough game.
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  Speaker 2: You poo pooed it? What Evan? All right?
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  Speaker 3: Well, the games in hands, so let's talk about is
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  Speaker 3: Diehard at Christmas?
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  Speaker 1: Boola?
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  Speaker 2: The Jets? You just never know in this league.
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  Speaker 3: Patriots forty two ten, that's a lot of work to
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  Speaker 3: be able to buy a car, keep it secret, have
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  Speaker 3: it there on Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like it's unrealistic. I find I find the
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  Speaker 2: actual analysis of the games to be interested. Oh so
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  Speaker 2: we do. Wow. I don't just pick and choose the
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  Speaker 2: analysis of the games that I liked. The way they
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  Speaker 1: You can scold it.
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  Speaker 3: No, I just like your pants have been pulled down
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  Speaker 3: and you've been spaying. It's not a mind Internet audience.
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  Speaker 2: They've been better than Houston all year. No, they haven't.
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  Speaker 2: Not lately.
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I disagree. Everyone's scared to Houston.
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  Speaker 2: I'm told that's see that's your problem.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Houston as well. This is Patriots Unfiltered,
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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here
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  Speaker 3: at you Let Stadium, home of the AFC East Champs.
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  Speaker 1: Right, that's right, baby, we're back.
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  Speaker 3: The East runs through Foxborough.
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  Speaker 2: That's all I am saying. Right now, right, that's all
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  Speaker 2: you're saying. Freddie feels forty two to ten on a heater.
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  Speaker 2: Freddie feels on a heater.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, been there won that. I'm starting to feel a
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  Speaker 2: little vibe. Oh vibe?
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  Speaker 1: Really yeah, what kind of vibe is this?
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  Speaker 2: Well?
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  Speaker 3: Back in two thousand and one, you know, we needed
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  Speaker 3: help from the Carolina Panthers at the end of the season. No,
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  Speaker 3: we beat the Carolina Panthers to wrap up the AFC East.
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  Speaker 3: We needed help from, of all teams, the New York
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  Speaker 3: Jets to upset the Raiders last game of the season
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  Speaker 3: in order to get a buye.
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  Speaker 2: There were two buys right.
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  Speaker 3: Right right, and we were on the plane and trying
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  Speaker 3: to follow the game through the staticky little TV thirty
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  Speaker 3: thousand feet and you know, at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 3: the Jets ended up pulling off. Hall hit a fifty
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  Speaker 3: three yard field goal to put them ahead, and it
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  Speaker 3: just reminded me this year we were doing the same
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  Speaker 3: thing on the bus watching the game and seeing if
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  Speaker 3: the Eagles, you know, could pull out the win. And
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  Speaker 3: they did, and you know it wasn't for a buye
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  Speaker 3: but it was the same kind of feeling.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Well, you guys were on the plane, slash bus,
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  Speaker 4: slash wherever when it where We're exactly where when you
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  Speaker 4: found out.
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  Speaker 3: We were on the bus coming from Providence Airport to
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  Speaker 3: the stadium when the game finally ended.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right down to the end. I mean it was
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe.
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  Speaker 3: Like he was open in the NFL, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what he missed him, Yeah, he missed he was open. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I think they should have just taken the extra point.
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  Speaker 3: They had all the momentum.
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  Speaker 1: They literally couldn't. The field goal kicker stinks, I know, but.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but that was the cover. But I don't
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  Speaker 2: I don't think, well, you don't have to.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we could do that later in the week. Now
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  Speaker 4: quick aside what they did. It just I said to
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  Speaker 4: you guys. It feels like Josh Allen has to leave
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  Speaker 4: a piece of his soul on the field every time
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  Speaker 4: he plays. Now, I just I don't know how they
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  Speaker 4: fix it. But he's a great player, but there's just so.
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  Speaker 1: Much on him right now.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So that's that's the Bills.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you Eagles for making it a little easier for
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  Speaker 3: the Patriots to get the AFC East. I mean, the
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  Speaker 3: game is not even worth talking about it. I mean literally,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know a player.
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  Speaker 2: Out in the field by the fourth. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: our own guys. I don't know any and he's just still.
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  Speaker 1: Hold quarter guys like that. Come on, there's some.
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  Speaker 3: I'm exaggerating a little bit. It was a preseason, did
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  Speaker 3: you have eyes on?
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  Speaker 2: Fred?
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  Speaker 4: Caught his first NFL pass and then caught his first touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: Let me tell you, had they wanted to, he could
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  Speaker 3: have caught ten passes that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, easily.
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  Speaker 2: They wanted to.
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  Speaker 1: Can't cover.
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  Speaker 3: They're trying to keep him down, you know, because they
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  Speaker 3: don't want. They don't want, they don't want.
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  Speaker 1: To reveal this yet.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he's wrong, but I don't think Fred's wrong.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't cover anybody the whole day. He could have
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  Speaker 2: had ten catches. Sometimes literally there was literally like one
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  Speaker 2: contested catch where Diggs lost a guy on the sideline.
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  Speaker 2: That was it. Every other guy like reminder, Stevenson running
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  Speaker 2: the defensive and Jason twenty yards field. Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 2: it was it was not Yeah, a great, great day
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  Speaker 2: by Drake may Mike five career high, five touchdowns, not
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  Speaker 2: exactly a lot of high level of difficulty throws.
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  Speaker 3: But it was just the perfect medicine for the Patriots. Perfect,
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  Speaker 3: you know, just like that to rest guys at the end.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you didn't lose any sleep over it so great,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, I think Miami game is gonna be
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  Speaker 3: a little tougher than this one. Yeah, but it was
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  Speaker 3: just perfect medicine I think going into week eighteen.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just credit to them for coming out
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  Speaker 4: and just leaving no doubt.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was, what was.
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  Speaker 4: Six plays right down the field, three and out right
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  Speaker 4: down the field, interception right down the field. I mean
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  Speaker 4: it's just that that's exactly what you were hoping for
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  Speaker 4: and we haven't. You know, this is a new team
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  Speaker 4: to us still, but you're learning about them and you're
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  Speaker 4: seeing when they go and play a team that's kind
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  Speaker 4: of packing it in. They didn't blink. They just went
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  Speaker 4: down there and hammered them like that, like they should.
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  Speaker 4: So it's a I'd like to see more of the
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  Speaker 4: same this weekend against the Dolphins. But just I mean
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  Speaker 4: watching Drake in that game, he just looked it was
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  Speaker 4: like the the pinnacle of everything we've seen all year,
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  Speaker 4: where he's just comfortable in the He's calm, cool, collected
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  Speaker 4: and just putting them out there first guys.
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  Speaker 3: So I know we're gonna get And I've already seen
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  Speaker 3: emails about, oh, you know, what should they do next week?
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  Speaker 2: Should they rest? Guys?
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  Speaker 5: Know?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they still have to keep the number two seed.
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  Speaker 3: There is a chance that they could drop to the
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  Speaker 3: number three seed if a few things happen. Now I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if those things.
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  Speaker 2: Jacksonville wins.
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  Speaker 3: But when is Jacksonville playing?
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  Speaker 2: What time? Okay, so we'll know, so we'll know.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's one.
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  Speaker 2: So if Jacksonville wins, there's a lot a lot of
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  Speaker 2: four o'clock games, but I don't know when that yees.
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  Speaker 3: So I still think you still have to play, at
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  Speaker 3: least until you know the games in hand. If if
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  Speaker 3: that happens at all because you don't want to drop
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  Speaker 3: to number three.
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  Speaker 2: You want to keep number two.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that ensures you have home playoff game up until
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  Speaker 3: and if you have to play the Broncos.
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  Speaker 1: Jakes are at one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it looks like.
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  Speaker 3: The Broncos are going to win because the Chargers have
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  Speaker 3: already announced that they're which I think is a conspiracy.
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  Speaker 3: Really yeah, I think I think Jim Harbaugh is doing
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  Speaker 3: this for John Harbaugh.
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  Speaker 1: This one's for John brother.
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  Speaker 3: Somehow John told Jim I want to play the Patriots again,
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  Speaker 3: and so you know there's a way. Yeah, it's a
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  Speaker 3: long you need to die story.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a long story. It took seven minutes for
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  Speaker 2: me to regret giving you all the props that I
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  Speaker 2: gave you to start the show.
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  Speaker 3: But there's no there is uh yeah, there there's a
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  Speaker 3: reason why. It could it be justin I just don't
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  Speaker 3: want to do us anything.
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  Speaker 2: It is broken, after all, I don't want to do
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  Speaker 2: against the best edge players in the league.
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  Speaker 6: Man.
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  Speaker 2: That has something to do with it. Now, I even alone,
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  Speaker 2: he's on a roll.
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  Speaker 4: No, I mean I've started diving into the Chargers and
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  Speaker 4: I think that seems like the matchup is going to be.
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  Speaker 4: But I got to take all access this morning, the
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  Speaker 4: Big Boys show check it out Friday busy.
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  Speaker 1: Now we can now he promoted, we can promote all access.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean, I just honestly feel any one of
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  Speaker 4: these teams in the a FC, except for maybe Pittsburgh, UH,
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  Speaker 4: could come out of it. And there's reasons, pluses and
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  Speaker 4: minuses for every single team. And who do you want
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  Speaker 4: to play? And I'm like, well, either way, no matter
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  Speaker 4: who they play, they're gonna have to play great and
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  Speaker 4: they're you know, there's gonna be challenges from each as teams.
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  Speaker 4: Chargers got a good defense, but they're banged up a tackle,
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  Speaker 4: Herbert's banged up.
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  Speaker 3: And I think Charges, to me, are the weakest team
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  Speaker 3: going in. You said Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh as far as the weakest team, it's the only
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  Speaker 2: team doesn't have a chance to come out of the AFC.
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  Speaker 2: You say that, but then they keep winning. They keep
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  Speaker 2: winning the so what they're in the playoffs and no
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  Speaker 2: they're not. What do you mean they're Remember they have
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  Speaker 2: to beat the Ravens.
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  Speaker 4: Right, they have to win a game to get in,
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  Speaker 4: and they've got a conspiracy going against them.
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  Speaker 7: Now for.
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  Speaker 3: There's no team in the AFC based on what the
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  Speaker 3: landscape looks at that I count out.
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  Speaker 2: No Jackonville. I don't cant that out. I don't count
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  Speaker 2: them out. I think six teams have a chance. Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 2: If Pittsburgh beats Baltimore, Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 1: Is the only one.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't give Backsville. If Baltimore wins, I'd say all
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  Speaker 2: seven average like this beats Baltimore. What does that say?
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  Speaker 2: That means that they beat Baltimore. Okay, but I don't
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  Speaker 2: think they're very good. I don't think they're capable of
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  Speaker 2: winning four games. They're good enough to beat Baltimore, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's fine. I don't think they're good enough to win
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  Speaker 2: three games in a row, all right?
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  Speaker 1: In the playoffs, I might, don't you, but I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I think the quarterback is by far the worst quarterback
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  Speaker 2: out of the playoff teams in the AFS, but capable
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  Speaker 2: of having a good game game. Yes, not going to
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  Speaker 2: the super Bowl, all right? All right, so and he
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  Speaker 2: also capable putting, you know, play in an again. One
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  Speaker 2: of the worst teams in.
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  Speaker 3: Football at this point, I'd rather play the Chargers than Pittsburgh. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: one game, I would I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind seeing old old Burgh.
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  Speaker 2: So you can't. You can't. You can't play Pittsburgh Baltimore
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  Speaker 2: until the year. Yeah, I guess it would be the
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  Speaker 2: championship right two for yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well unless one of the wild card teams that
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  Speaker 1: plays in Denver, then I guess you could theory.
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  Speaker 4: Right three loses and yeah yeah somebody low yep, I
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  Speaker 4: guess that's way.
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  Speaker 1: We don't need to get a popsicle aheaded.
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  Speaker 3: At some point, I do want to talk about the
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  Speaker 3: Drake May nickname I have warmed up to Drake Drake
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  Speaker 3: May May. I totally get it. I've done the research.
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  Speaker 3: I understand how it started. I like the reasoning.
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  Speaker 1: I literally explained it to you last week. But you mean.
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  Speaker 2: Independent sort of a technical thing that we didn't get right.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody called into the postgame show and it offered a
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  Speaker 2: huge piece of the puzzle that I was not aware
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  Speaker 2: of until that. That's the only thing we'll see if
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  Speaker 2: that's the Tom Brady part of it. What about hadn't
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  Speaker 2: heard that?
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  Speaker 1: What about Tom Brady?
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  Speaker 2: Evidently the Drake May lover is the one who someone
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  Speaker 2: said it's Drake tom Brady May and the Drake May
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  Speaker 2: lover said no, no, no, no, no, he's too good
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  Speaker 2: for that. It's Drake Drake may May right, that's however
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  Speaker 2: it is. That's how it came about. And I love
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  Speaker 2: not funny historic. That's a big difference. It makes sense
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  Speaker 2: to me.
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  Speaker 8: I like it.
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  Speaker 2: I gave that guy props on the Postgame Show. The
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  Speaker 2: Post Game Show a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's like one of those things we talk
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  Speaker 4: a lot about, like trying to create a new tradition,
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  Speaker 4: like you can't really. I remember when I started hearing
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  Speaker 4: you guys were like, do you have any nicknames? And
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  Speaker 4: I was like, well, people call me Deuce and you're
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  Speaker 4: like ah, and then it was like d trained for
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  Speaker 4: a little while, like you know, that was a nick
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  Speaker 4: baby loved.
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  Speaker 2: Hope you're out there and that's when that's when Fred
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  Speaker 2: don't juice sexual sexual And then all of a sudden
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  Speaker 2: we landed back on Deuce.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, this one, it's it's gonna stick.
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  Speaker 2: I like it, Drake May May, It's gonna it's definitely
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  Speaker 2: gonna stay because it's become a thing.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the NFL p A is now selling the iHeart
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  Speaker 1: Drake Maye.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't I don't know. He is his nickname.
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  Speaker 1: He is his nickname.
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  Speaker 2: He is him, you know. And I started thinking about it.
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  Speaker 2: Someone said this last week that a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: great quarterbacks they don't really have nicknames, and I started
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  Speaker 2: to think about it, and it's kind of right, like
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  Speaker 2: Broadway Joe, Yeah, but you got to go back away
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  Speaker 2: like Roger the Dodger, you know, stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: But like when things were corning, was what was Tom
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  Speaker 1: Brady's nickname.
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  Speaker 2: Pharaohs. But that's a little like sounds like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Peyton Manning, Like I don't know, they call him the
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  Speaker 2: sheriff for something. But like there's not too many Aaron Rodgers,
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  Speaker 2: you know, right, he just but like those are more
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  Speaker 2: like like t B those you were your initials. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I kind of think that whoever that was,
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  Speaker 2: I'd like to give credit for the person. But I
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  Speaker 2: don't think a lot of the Marino y I did,
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  Speaker 2: like when Don Merredith used to call him Jimmy Joe
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  Speaker 2: Idaho on Monday Night Football, But Joe Cool, I think
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  Speaker 2: was probably his nickname is one that's that's.
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  Speaker 3: That's again a long time ago. A lot of Lamar
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  Speaker 3: Jackson doesn't have one.
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  Speaker 1: He's just I call him La marvelous.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's just me. As has Racott say in ESPN,
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  Speaker 2: they don't call him that they should.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't have one. Patrick Mahomes doesn't have one. Joe Burrow
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  Speaker 3: is Joe cool. We're recling Joe.
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  Speaker 4: Joe Burr just Joe Burr like he's cold, he's cool.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's hard to be organic, though it does.
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  Speaker 2: It does come force it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's been. It's been funny.
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  Speaker 2: So his character.
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  Speaker 3: So, I know, we have a lot of people emailing
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  Speaker 3: and offering nicknames we're not taking on.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's Drake, Drake May May. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: What's the one that?
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  Speaker 2: Can we get something better than that? No, there is
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  Speaker 2: nothing better than that. If you don't hear it, I
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  Speaker 2: don't need to hear it. Okay, that that is it.
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  Speaker 2: That's open minded? Good, Paul, sound a little.
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  Speaker 1: Like me there, may Day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a good name though.
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  Speaker 4: For if you guys were still doing covers at may
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  Speaker 4: A w there there's a lot of opportunities for the
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  Speaker 4: Drake and May.
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  Speaker 2: And all that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, a lot of puns.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Drake May, I have another.
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  Speaker 8: You like that?
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't like that one.
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  Speaker 2: Fred Okay, see nothing's better. No, I didn't say there
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  Speaker 2: was anything better, but I mean someone might have a suggestion.
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  Speaker 2: You hear it and you're like, oh, wow, that's pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: He's Drake May.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why this person's writing in the force May.
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  Speaker 1: Why why does he need to delete Drake May May.
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  Speaker 1: This reminds me of a and that's like not even
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  Speaker 1: like it's a nickname. But like no one's gonna like
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  Speaker 1: say all of that when I talk. It's just kind
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  Speaker 1: of like I don't know. It's not like the truth
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  Speaker 1: for Paul Pierce was like a nickname, right, Like like
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that this is like every NBA guy
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  Speaker 1: has name. Yeah, but like I don't I don't see
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  Speaker 1: that people answer like doing it like that, like it's
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  Speaker 1: this is not shack.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean this person, jug alone from California says, after
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  Speaker 3: this explanation, he wants to call him Drake the Duke
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  Speaker 3: of May.
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  Speaker 1: No, Duke, No, the Duke's the ball.
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  Speaker 2: You're getting a little.
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  Speaker 3: The fact that Drake May Flowers's gate keeping no nickname. No.
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  Speaker 4: I remember seeing Andy Hart saying Gronk, this grons is great.
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  Speaker 4: His nickname should be g Force, And I was like, Andy,
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  Speaker 4: this gronk, he's Gronk, Like it's going to be Gronk.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: That's the nickname. You can't come up with a nickname
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: like g Force. That's not gonna stick.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: You remember that?
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Did he try to make that work on the show?
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: You probably, I don't know why that sticks. Probably yelled
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: at him and shouted him.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: Down, Big Ben Roethlisberger. That's true. Yeah, yeah, so I
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: guess I didn't give it as much thought. There was
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: a few of them out there.
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: It's kind of like they call him the first name, right,
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: like that was Ben. Everyone calls some quarterbacks their nickname
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: is just their first name. Yeah, like Lamar Lamar, then.
• 15:43
  Speaker 10: Oh Boy to Dirty Day smoking Joe.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: What's that from?
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: That's Cam Newton naming all the nicknames on the team.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: Remember that.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Boy nickle Harry? What did that mean?
• 16:00
  Speaker 8: Wait?
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: Whose middle name did he have? Wrong? Can remember Cam
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Newton had? Somebody's middle name was mac after he insisted,
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: you don't know what I was really George McClellan. He's
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: in his Civil War.
• 16:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: I did not like Cam Newton coming in and immediately
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: putting a shipping people it's a very passive.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Well, it's an aggressive alpha dog.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: Try it move to like do that like I will
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: now give you your nickname right And to everybody that's
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: that was ridiculous.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't like that at all.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Didn't matter.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: What why are you laughing?
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Sixteen minutes without any exers?
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: He wants to talk on me? Huh?
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Wants to talk about the game?
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: I think, well, I mean, is there a lot to
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: talk about?
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I think I think we're doing.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: Here after further review and even you said it in there,
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: there's not much to talk.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Think this is a great start to the show. Why
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: it's been great? H that's it.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think there's a tremendous amount to talk
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: about from the game. I mean, other than what Mike said,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: they had an overwhelmed team, and they overwhelmed them from
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: the first play of the game and till they decided
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: we're done knocking you around. Yeah, so that's what you
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: wanted to see. I thought that was a great statement.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: I kind of think the guys that they were missing
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: almost worked in their favor, because if you had any
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: fear of coming off an emotional win on the Sunday
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: night football in Baltimore maybe having a little bit of
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: a letdown. Well, the guys that were playing had no
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: reason to have a letdown. They need to go out.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: We're going to get some targets in that game. He
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: needed to be ready to go. Fred's boy, Efton Chisholm,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: same thing.
• 17:46
  Speaker 11: You know.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Even Anthony Jennings, you know he's been sort of a
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: spot player here and there. He's going to be out
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: there for Harold Landry at times. I don't know how
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: many plays he played in the game, but those guys
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: couldn't afford to just mail it in and over Will.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Look the Jets, they're trying to cop out a role,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: see if they can, you know, win some confidence in
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: the coaching staff and get a role going forward. So
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a really professional performance by the
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: whole team. Yeah, just dominant on all levels of the game.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: It's hard not to just turn the pace to injuries
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: and really try to think about I mean, Brabele said
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: yesterday that Will Campbell will practice this week. I don't
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: know if that means he's going to actually play in
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: this last game, but you know, between him and Landry
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: and Spallane, it's just that that to me is everything.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: How many of these guys are ready to play this weekend,
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: and how many of these guys are you gonna go
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: into the playoff being like, all right, we'll see what
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: it looks like on defense when we get to that playoff.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Williams camp can he plays? He started practicing, he could played.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Williams and Campbell are eligible to be activated at any
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: time and they can come back and play.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Would you put Campbell right in? I mean, he's gonna
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: this is gonna be his first week practicing in like
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: five weeks.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: It depends on how healthy is I mean, you know,
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: I think we've seen guys come back from mclsu. I'm
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: thinking like Draw Mayo sometime in the middle of his career,
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: you know, come back with a brace. But it's a
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: it's a really interesting question because it's that Darien Low
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: has been okay, and you know, not that I would say, oh,
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: we can't put Will Campbell in for for Low. But
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: at the same time, I guess maybe it's at least
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: comforting to know that if Will Campbell doesn't quite have it,
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: that that you at least feel like you have a
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: solid backup option, certainly better than like what the Chargers
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: are doing.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, feel a lot better about it now than I
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: would have the day that he went down in Cincinnati. Yeah,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: because I think Lowe's done done. Okay, Yeah, I think
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: the line in general, I've been saying this all year,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: they've they've improved, and I think there's a lot of
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: factors that go into it, not the least of which
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: is the scheme in Drake himself. I think Drake is
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: doing a lot of things for the line the way
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Tom Brady used to do. Different way because he's much
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: more athletic back there the way he does it. But
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: you know, he's he's able to move around, get himself
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: some time, and he's so dangerous when he's off platform.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: And the line's been The line's been fine. I've had
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: no real issues with the offense, even though they've taken
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: a lot of sacks. I've had no issues really with
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: the protection.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: Have you guys ever seen anything like this though with
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Drake May Like we again, we talked about it on
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Patriots All Axis Friday night.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: I'm featuring Deuce.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: You've probably released a solid like six minutes of me
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: in there. Uh No, but I just all these teams
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: are I'm sorry with the point of starn to Brak
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: was just seeing Drake come out of nowhere with this season.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Like none of us.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: We watch every training camp practice, We record a show
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: about every training camp practice. We went to joint practices,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: we watched all the preseason games. We watched him throw
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: an interception to Alex Austin and the in stadium practice,
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: and we all were walking downstairs released. I was being like,
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: oh boy, like this is going to be up and
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: down this year. Never once did I think during watching
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: training camp that this guy was going to put together
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: like an MVP caliber season.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: And even watch three, you know, like week four, you know,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: like all but all I.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Know in that Carolina game in Week four, but like,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: you're right, the first week was not good. The third week,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I would say was more up and down. He had
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: some moments in the Pittsburgh game, but he had some
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: really bad counts too, And then it kind of I
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: thought he was pretty good in Miami and the game
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: in between, but that was kind of a lesser workload
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: for him. I think he only threw like twenty passes
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: in that game. It's yeah, I agree, and then the
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Carolina game. He Since then, it's really been like just
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: the trajectory is up. In the Mad Game, you mentioned MVP.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: He's now the leader in the club. I was going
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: to act like we were like twenty minutes in, like
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I think he won the MVP last night with Stafford,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: with Stafford throwing three picks. Now, I don't know what
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: the voting is going to be like, and I'm not
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: telling you it's robbery if Stafford gets it, you know,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: he still has you know, great numbers and stuff. But
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I think May deserves the MVP because of the team
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: that he's doing it for. Is I don't think it's
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: as talented a team as the Rams is. Yeah.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be a question of you know,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: a couple of different things like May's schedule is going
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: to factor into it for some voters, Stafford's supporting cast
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: is going to factor it into for other voters. So
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: like is that going to wash out? And I think
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: that there's another element of it of you know, box
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: score volume stats versus efficiency.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: And I would even say the running, right, you know,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: the running in the league in the show.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: So if you if you add Drake May's passing yards
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: with his rushing yards, he's out gaining Matthew Stafford. But
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Stafford is going to throw for more passing yards than
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Drake May this year. But if you put both the
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: yards together, which is what stats like QBR and e
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: p A and those types of things try to do,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: there's no doubt that he's been the more efficient and
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: more productive quarterback. I mean, really, the only category that Stafford,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: now that he threw three picks in one game, that
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: he hasn't beat on it is his touchdowns. His total touchdowns,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: you know, eight of which are from the one yard
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: line of him throwing fades to Adams and Puka, not
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: eight I can tell you, because that's not really what
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: he does. So one, I just I think that you know,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: when you look at all these graphics, it's like Drake
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: has every statistical category and then Stafford has total touchdowns
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: and that and that's pretty much it. And it's like
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: the only thing that you could say that argues against
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Drake is that he had an easier schedule and that
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: he you know, Stafford was playing in the NFC West
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: and played tougher defense.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: And I think you're right about the stats. It depends
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: on how you look at him. I would look at
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Stafford stats as being better. But I would look at
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: May's cast of characters like that to me far in away, No,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: it's so lopsided in May's favor that that's.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: I think Stafford's stats are better, but I did the
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: way I do it is the value to the team.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I just I don't understand what stats are better.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Well, they both have eight interceptions in May has thrown
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: far fewer passes, So interception percentage is better for Stafford.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Touchdowns is better for Stafford. Yards are better for Stafford. Well,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: rushing is better for May.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, but completion percentage is better for May. Yards per
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: attempt is better than it for me epa QBR passer rating.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: And that's going to be that's going to be the
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: fascinating thing. The stats that you and a lot of
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: your ill care We go, no, no, But you only
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: need two stats ydge, touchdowns, interceptions, the only three stats
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: that I really care about.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, But but if you're going to use.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: That, that doesn't mean I'm right I would give it
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: to May. I'm telling you I would pick May even
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: though he doesn't have those stats.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: But if you're using the stats that I care about,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: But if you're using the argument that he's thrown three
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: fewer interceptions on more attempts. He's also score They both
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: have eight interceptions, right, but he also has more passing
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: yards on more attempts he does. So you can't use
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: it both way, Sure you can.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: He's been asked to throw the ball more often, and
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: that's harder. That's part of like Drew Bledsoe in ninety
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: four forty five hundred yards because he had to throw
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: the ball every play he had the whole offense on
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: his shoulder.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: There's a good stat out there that quarterbacks who throw
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: more than fifty times in a game lose more often.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Tea was that to run the ball more than forty.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Think that that, you know, counteracted that stat. But he
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: was very rare.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: He wonted no matter what.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, And just to be clear here, I
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: want to reiterate May is my pick, and May has
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: been my pick for about a month because I think
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: the more I see from Drake, like maybe maybe the
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: final nail was the comeback against Baltimore for me, but
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I had been trending to May is doing more with less,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: and that to me overrides it than than Stafford. And
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: you guys know, I love Stafford. I've always liked Matthew Stafford.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Mike I famously once told and Fred will tell you,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I once said that I would have traded one Thomas
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: tom Brady Patrick to the Lions for the number one
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: overall pick for Stafford.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: So you liked him coming out.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I at Georgia, I was a big fan coming out,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: So I do like him. I think Drake May has
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: had a better year. Evan has a lot of stats
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: that tell me that I'm right.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: You just had like the e p A s and
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: the yards all those all of those stats are all
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: in May's favor. So it's not like I have to
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: make a stretch for it. But I do come back
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: to Stefan Diggs coming off of torn a cl as
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: opposed to Pooka Nakula. Mhm, Like sorry, the check mark
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: goes to May. You know, Kyen Williams and Blake Korham
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: a good solid one two punch behind a run. You know,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: they play a lot of multiple tight ends. They like
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: to run the ball a lot. They have a great scheme.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Uh And I think he has a lot more to
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: work with and I think Drake May has done more
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: with less. That's my pick no. I agree.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: I agree, And it's just even the eye test of
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: watching both these guys, I would just say they both
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: have that calm energy of just knowing where to go
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: with the ball, not panicking, and I mean they both
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: have had fantastic seasons. I just I'm just considered it
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: so cool to be able to like watch this whole
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: process unfold from training camp where you know, you guys
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: have seen an MVP and usually that MVP is amazing
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: from the get go, and you know he's an MVP candidate.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: This was a kid in his second year coming out
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: of nowhere and taking the whole leak by storm. And
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, what, you know, this has been a great
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: year to watch a lot of wins, But that part
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: of it for me is just especially when we spent
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: so much time talking about how do we find the
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: next quarterback? I mean we burned hours and hours on
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: this show talking about what's the best way to get it?
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: And Paul's got stats about you got to draft him
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: in the top half.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Of the round, you know, and then but then there's
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: like guys like Darnold who are out there and you
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: get the right one or the wrong one, and you know,
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: to to finally land on the guy and see him
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: really blossom. It's it's it's exciting, and you understand why
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Patriot fans are are so excited.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: We got we got our guys. The mastery of the
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: system is not something that I expected to happen so quickly.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: And that's where the consistency has come from, is because
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: he's operating so well within the structure of the system.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: So it's not he's not being Superman all the time.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: You know, they throw out a digs on Sunday. There's
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: a handful of those types of plays a game, but
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: it's not like it has to be that way every
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: single time. And I think that's the biggest difference between
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: his rookie season the beginning of this year, where it
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: felt like he had to be Superman for them to
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: get yards. Now it's like Paul's thing. They can win
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: just conventionally. He can just drop back and sit in
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: the pocket and win. And that that is why the
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: turnovers are down. That's why the you know, the peaks
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: and valleys of his play have you know, kind of
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: evened out. Is because he's just operating at such a
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: high level within structure. And then you add you know,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: kind of the other stuff on top.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Like what do you put into you know, I think
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Josh mcdani's there's a lot of credit, but I know
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: his system, like we talked about it, a lot goes
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: on the quarterback. But I know hearing Tom Brady talk
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: about Josh being the kind of guy that teaches the
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: quarterback what to look for, you know, not wanting a robot,
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: wanting a guy who can be out there, think for himself,
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: put himself in good position. And I mean, I think
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: that that system is kind of a shoot for the
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: moon kind of system where it's like, you know, let's
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: let's teach this guy how to run it and do it.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know what Josh's future is
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: going to be like here.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: I hope he's here for a while again, but still
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: I think the teaching that they've given him is going
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: to last him through changes that are inevitably going to happen.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: You know, there's going to be turnover.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: At the wide receiver, tight end, running back positions, an
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: offensive coordinator turnover.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: But the strides he's.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Made, I really just believe it's sustainable now and that
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: the intelligence and the experience that he's getting is just
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: going to continue to snowball.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's incredible that he has such command at the
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: line of scrimmage for such a young player. And I
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: remember when we talked about this system, like it's on
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: the quarterback to make all of the calls at the
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, whether it's protections or different mic points
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: with run game stuff, and it's not. Most systems put
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: that on the center, but this system puts it on
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: the quarterback because they want the quarterback to be in
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: the cockpit and have control of everything to see things
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: in kind of survey and whatever. And he just doesn't
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: make very many mental mistakes, like you don't see a
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: whole lot of you know, oh well, they probably should
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: have slid it this way, or they probably had it
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: aimed wrong that way, or whatever the case may be.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: And you know, they're using different tells, the emotions and
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: indicators and things like that to give him information and
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: he's just able to do it at such a high
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: level that I wasn't studying Brady, you know, year two
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: like I do with Drake may So I couldn't tell you,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: but it does feels like I don't see that very often.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: With other young quarterbacks around the league, that they have
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: such a command of the whole offense, right, and that
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: has to come back to obviously Drake May's you know, IQ,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: but also Josh mcdaniels's ability to coach it, teach it.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but that that part of it is probably
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: the thing that has surprised me the most is because
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I thought that he'd be a guy that, you know,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: that's one of those he held the ball too long,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: or they tricked.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Him there they you know, they cut underneath. He was
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: expecting this, he got that.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: I haven't really seen that, and I mean very very
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: rarely has he looked like he got fooled by a
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: coverage or threw the ball into the wrong spot.
• 30:57
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: The Jets had one on Sunday where they actually ran
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: a pretty good coverage and they try to trap him
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: into throwing the ball to digs and with a trap
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: corner where the corner looks like he's going to carry
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: the route and then jumps the twentieth route and he
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: ran it on fourth down, and I you know, you
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: watch him and he starts to rode up to throw
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: the digs and then he pulls it down to the
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: rast second and then looks and runs out of the
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: pocket and picks up the first down, and I was like,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: that's just unbelievable, like.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Human.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, I don't remember exact coverage. It's just a trap coverage.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: That meant something different. But yeah, they they they had the.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Slot like carry you know, looked like he was carrying
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Kyle Williams vertical and he just kind of fell off
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Kyle Williams and jump digs his route underneath, and like
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: nine out of ten twenty three year old quarterbacks throw
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: a pick six right there, like right, like I watched
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Stafford throw pick six last night on the exact same coverage,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: and Drake May just seize it, and that that stuff
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: is rare. Like we always knew that he had the talent,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I did not know that he had it between the
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: ears as well as he's shown, at least so far
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: this year.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, when it comes to Drake May
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: in the offense, I think we're in good shape. I
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: would assume Booty's going to come back.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and Matt Collins gonna be out, so they're gonna
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: have to figure figure out a little bit.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: He'll be out, but change up.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: But Kyle Williams is coming on. You know, we had
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: the one drop, but he seems like every game now
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: he's making a big play him.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I didn't have him on the down list. I always
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: called it.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: I didn't have him a bat list, but I just
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: I give some constructive criticism of the game to Kyle.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Williams, almost finger wagging.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Well, I didn't want to put him on the bat
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: list because it was a great round and he contributed.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: But you know, you just see some of the little
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: details of making sure you got the right depth, uh,
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: you know, catching the ball consistently, but I mean I
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: like it.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Coming back inside the first down mark on your own.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Twice he got lucky there. Once was very close, fortunately
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: stretch I assume you know, signaled down to Mike and
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: had him it. Rabel was standing right in front of
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you watching the replay, it was very close.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: I think you could have flicked the coin on that one.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Uh, and I would I would say, ramondre Stevenson is
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: playing his best ball right now.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Terrific.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: This is all around yep, yeah, yep, he was my
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: what is that segment?
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: I do now?
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I forget one of the same time.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: No, this was one of my sponsored segments on the
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: post game show.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Something to build on, something that built on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: he's on a little bit of a three game.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: It's the thing. Yeah begins with an a what is it, Aaron.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: He's not he's not the best pitch man snowblower of
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: the game.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: But no, I that was exactly what I said. I mean,
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: just uh, you know, Henderson seemed maybe thank you, I
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: love our friends at I forgot the segment. Uh, but
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: I think that's a great development for this Patriots team
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: as they get in the playoffs, having ramondro Stevenson looking
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: like he's he's healthy and contributing in all facets, and
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: you know, just like I think, I think Henderson maybe
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: a little rusty after after missing the week, and you know,
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: he seemed like he didn't quite find the room that
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: that we were hoping for.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: But if they can really peak with those two guys
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: and have.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: That one two punch going in the playoffs, it's going
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: to be a big, big, big help to Drake.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Henderson ran hard in this game. He pushed some piles
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: and you know, maybe that's something to do wait with
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: the Jets, like not being able to tackle or not
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: wanting to tackle. But Remondre just putting together three weeks
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: now of just like all around, yep, great play, pass game,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: run game, blocking, like all of it.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I think he missed one block last week and Ivan
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Fears gave him a hard time for it for that,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: so that was funny. But overall, he's just looked really
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: really good. And some of the stuff that they're doing
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: with him now in the passing game is getting to
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: pay dividends because those are tough things to cover, you know,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: is he blocking, is he running to the flat, as
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: he getting vertical, you know, different things like that. So
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: he's been really really good and now you can start
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: to see, you know, how they can compliment each other
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: and how that can really be a good one two
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: punch in January when you want to be able to
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: run the ball and you want to be able to
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: you know, elements and all that good stuff. So it's
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: been fun to watch Ormandre last couple of weeks. He's
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: right all the way back.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Eight five five Pats five hundred is the hot Line
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: podcast at Patriots dot com as the email address I'm
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: getting flooded with Drake Maye nicknames, so maybe we'll get
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: to that later. I take the name, go down and
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: say nick names, but to me, it's.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Drake Drake May May. That's that's it.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: But I'll read them later in case there's, you know,
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: something great. I haven't seen it yet, but is there
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: anything to judge?
• 35:27
  Speaker 11: What it's?
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Aything?
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Terrible in my opinion, all of it, But that's that's again.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Who am I to judge?
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: But people are chomping at the bitch, champing, champion at
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: the bit to get their thoughts out there. So let's
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: get to the phones. We will start with Vinnie in Vegas.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: What's up?
• 35:46
  Speaker 9: Vinnie?
• 35:49
  Speaker 12: Hey, guys, looks up?
• 35:50
  Speaker 8: Hey, uh.
• 35:52
  Speaker 12: You know, I it's crazy how the you know, last
• 35:56
  Speaker 12: night's game where you know Stoffer wasn't great, how they
• 36:00
  Speaker 12: the odds changed so much. I mean, going into that game,
• 36:03
  Speaker 12: you know it was his MVP, and then after the
• 36:06
  Speaker 12: game it's like just completely flips. It's just it's crazy
• 36:09
  Speaker 12: to me how the odds change so quickly. The other
• 36:12
  Speaker 12: thing I have for you guys is, you know, I
• 36:14
  Speaker 12: feel confident if we have to play the Chargers, they
• 36:19
  Speaker 12: are they're just very inconsistent. I will say they are
• 36:22
  Speaker 12: the most inconsistent team in the league. One week they
• 36:25
  Speaker 12: bring it, they're awesome, and then the next week they
• 36:28
  Speaker 12: just you know, they're terrible. I do have a question
• 36:32
  Speaker 12: for you guys, and I'll take this off the air,
• 36:35
  Speaker 12: if you had only one draft pick this next coming draft.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Which I know is not the case, but I just
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: want to hear your thoughts on.
• 36:43
  Speaker 12: This one draft pick and can only bring in one
• 36:47
  Speaker 12: free agent or you know what would be those two
• 36:49
  Speaker 12: positions that you would one hundred per say we need this,
• 36:53
  Speaker 12: you know, based on what we've seen this year. And
• 36:55
  Speaker 12: like I said, thank you for everything you guys do.
• 36:58
  Speaker 12: This year has been awesome.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, thanks. So I have two players that can bring in.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Forget about who they are, but because what they what
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: do they do?
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Edge definitely to me, Edge is definitely on that list.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: To me, I go edge wide receiver. Yeah, I think Edge,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: and you know, I'll just say pass catcher. Like, if
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: it's a tight end, it's a tight end. If it's
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: a receiver, it's a receiver. But I like the tight
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: end thing.
• 37:18
  Speaker 13: I like that.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's a great way to just again,
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: I'll probably say this a lot in the off.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Season, but they have to. They have to change this year.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: They have to get better. They can't think we're going
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: to run back with this team. Plug a couple of
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: gaps like the O fourteen brought in Corey Dylan after
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: you won the Super Bowl. They changed the equation for
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: other teams on how to defend them. And I think
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: with Drake May the way he's playing, I think it
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: gives you some flexibility.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: We're all perfectly fine with the way the offensive line
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: is right now.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: I only have pick so I have to, you know,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: in that scenario, I have to go with Mogan Moses
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: another year.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what else you do in an
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: offensive line for now, Like I think centered right tackle,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: those are going to be holes that you need to do.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: But I think think you you keep Bradbury and Moses
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: for the time being, and let's see how long they
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: can keep it up for Yeah, you know, then Wilson
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: will obviously factor into one of those interior spots.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: What about linebacker, I think that's a consideration. I mean,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't a player. I mean, everybody wants to side
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: to line the sideline linebacker. All thirty two teams want
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Oh god, we could we could really use a linebacker
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: who can cover, Like, yeah, so can the rest of
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: the NFL.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: Za Bond in that game, James Cook down really really
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: good play a couple of really good There's like maybe
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: like five teams, you know, healthy Fred Warner when with
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: San Francisco, Zach Bond, Swetzinger, Like they're there's they everybody
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: wants to them. I mean it's not a super I
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: mean it's not a super premium physition, but I do
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: feel like every year there's one or two of those
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: guys that.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and deficultly the kinds that that Evan's talking about
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: are like you know Rokwan Smith, you know in his prime,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: you know those that they're rare.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: They are rare. It's really hard to find guys that
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: can stop the run and the past and be able
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: to stay in all situations. Like that's pretty rare to
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: find those types of guys. So like, ideally you could
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: get somebody next to Splaine that has some athleticism that
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: can run a little bit.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: But you know, then what about a Hamilton type safety.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I love it all. Yeah,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: this is why I think Mike's point is is, you know,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: be excited about how fast and how far you've come,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: But don't be satisfied that you're there, right, because there's
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: still a lot of improvement that can be made.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Out of relegation.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: Next year, you know, like you're gonna have to play
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: some other some other teams.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: But I would argue that you almost have to treat
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: it like it didn't happen, Yeah, because the schedule is
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: going to get significantly harder next year and everyone's gone
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: an expectation like you almost have to act like you
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: made the step that you thought you were going to make,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: which was probably going to be like a seven or
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: eight win team, and not get too caught up in
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: the fact that you went as far.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: The FC East is back to the way it used
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: to be, and everybody else it's the windows closed in Buffalo,
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: as Fred predicted. You know, Miami, we can only hope
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: that they don't treat it that Miami's in turmoil. The
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: Jets are the Jets, Jets. The Jets gets the ale.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: That's good, lockdown, it's on lockdown, just quick on the
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: edge position. The more I've watched to make an off
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: season bet with you, the more I've watched, you know,
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: these really good quarterbacks. It just feels like you absolutely
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: have to have a dominating edge player in today's NFL.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: I mean just you know, look at the Houston game
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: versus the Bills and what they did to Josh Allen.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: I know Houston has a special pass rush off the edge,
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: but you know, with Milton Williams and Christian Barmore, you
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: get one more of the guys one.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: I know they have a special player.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: If I ever come in here in like a vast
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: as long as you guys gotta like becoming you're becoming
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: too bravely. But I think that's the quickest way to improve.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: We talked about the schedule, getting better, better quarterbacks next year.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: You need a dude on the edge next year.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: So something I would also be prepared for. And you know,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know how it's all gonna you know, unfold
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: and manifest, but the guy's going to win the MVP,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: and if he's not going to win the MVP, he's
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: going to be second. Defensive coordinators are going to spend
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: the off season trying to figure out how the hell
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: we slow.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: This guy get an incompletion?
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how are we going to slow this guy down? Good? Look,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: we got We got to figure it out. I know, Phil,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: there is no blueprint to stop him, but that's what's
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: going to happen. You need to be prepared for that. Yeah,
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: you know, like what happens. And as I said, so you.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Need to add and I think another playmaker on top
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: of what you already have. Right not to mention Diggs, Henry,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: like those guys are getting up there in age, like
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: you can't always count on those guys being as productive
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: as they have been. So but I think that's the
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: biggest thing is you can't get complacent. You have to
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: keep stacking talent on the roster. And like I said,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: like I would almost treat it like you didn't have
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: a thirteen fourteen win season.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: I love that, And I mean I also nothing against
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: Austin Hooper. I think he's been solid and think he's
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: a really good locker room guy, good complimentary piece. But
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: you know, his free agency he's going to be up
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: seems like an opportunity to me to maybe try to
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: find a dynamic kind of number two guy that maybe
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: you can groom behind Henry that just has, like I've said,
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: changed the equation that you know now instead of just
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: spending your whole time on Drake May. Well, now it's
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: you know, now they're going to have Corey Dillon and
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: we got to figure out how to stop that.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: That kind of thing.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: You just laugh.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: And they have the tape for the m v P.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: It's rushing yard. He's got minus rushing on minus two
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: rushing yards. That is absolutely better. Same amount of turnovers
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: as both though eight eight picks and three a.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Lot more green checks on May side of the ledger.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Well, that's absolutely well. Their records and whatnot. He's got
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: the better numbers, I mean many does we've got the
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: m v P. Think about that.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: You were to say last year, the Patriots are going
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: to draft a quarter.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Like it's happened a lot in the past. But then
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: why we even even with.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: They on the team last year, to say next year,
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: he's going to be.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: The m v P of the not even the biggest Patriots.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Honk would I would I would have said he had
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: been he could be an MVP eventually.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: I could see him if he develops, he has the
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: skill to be an m v P. I would have
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: said something like that. No way, I would have said,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: he's going to be the m.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: V P now right, and we all knew he had
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: all the physical gifts in the world that you.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Need to be the m v P. I didn't even
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: think in like September or October like we were going
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: to be having a rational m VP conversation. That's why
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: the question I brought up early just it happened so fast.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: It was the first Buffalo game.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: It was like, huh, to to toe with Josh Allen
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: on National TV, and that's when people started writing.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: In and I was very skeptical. Full disclosure.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: But again, you can continue to just be skeptical and
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: say that what's happening isn't happening, and that just makes
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: you wrong, and then you know stubborn, or you can say, hey,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: I didn't look at it that way and that that's proven.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: You know, fourteen, they're going to be fourteen and three.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: I could sit there and say, yeah, it's a six
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: or seven win team because that's what I thought. Oh,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: but yeah, if this didn't happen, no, no, no, they
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: went out and won the games and they proved me wrong.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: They proved a lot of people wrong.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: It's in the last couple of weeks in the NFL too,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, Cleveland beat the Steelers. Cleveland almost beat Buffalo.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Atlanta beat the Rams last night in a game where
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: the Rams needed a blocked field goal to even make it.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Really, it is kind of a picture of the league.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: It's happening, and.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: The Patriots beat every team they were supposed to beat
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: well and so well, Raiders won't come everyone the season.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: But I really try not to do that. I tried
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: to treat the Patriots like I do. So they won
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: thirteen out of fourteen of the games they were.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Just because they had more of those opportunities than everybody else.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Don't like they just had that on that slate to
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: schedule thirty second yeah, sixth yeah, yeah yeah.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: Against common opponents. The Rams were four and two, the
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Patriots were six and oh so what.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Does that mean that we beat the teams that? But
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: how would you have done with the same schedule if
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: you had to play San Francisco and Seattle twice? No,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: you didn't play them, I know, but you played bad teams.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: But that the Rams played and they lost twice. Okay,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not arguing. I don't really care if the Rams
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: or the Patriots are better. Drake May is Drake May
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: is my MVP.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Like it doesn't. This is just crap.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: That doesn't matter. Like the Patriots scored twenty four points
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: against Atlanta, so did the Rams. The Patriots won, the
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Atlanta lost.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Seven of them were on special teams.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: I don't all the points that Atlanta scored were on
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: special teams too. On defense they got to pick six,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: like it happens.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that Drake May scored twenty four actual
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: points or September games.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: September games don't count as much. About what about November games?
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Do they count?
• 45:54
  Speaker 8: Yes?
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, well that twenty four to twenty three you beat
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Atlanta because they then extra point we beat them. Okay,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: so like it lost, it happens. I know they lost.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: They lost to Carolina too. You beat Carolina, that's right,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: that's right. Okay, they didn't lose to the Raiders though. Yeah,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: but September games don't count.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, they're weighted less. They county.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: It's costing. It's right now, that's costing you the number
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: one seed.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: It's true.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: So I know it didn't count, but right now we're
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: going to be the.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Number two seeds that we brought up the one game
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: that they were supposed to win. That they didn't win.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: There's two games that they were supposed to win that
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: they didn't win. Pittsburgh was a travesty of the loss.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: That was well the way I'm folded, but I'm not surprised.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: But it's a bad team and you lost that home.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: But we know that in the bath, like I don't
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: know at the time.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: I know that was September.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: It doesn't count. No, I just don't think at the
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: time that we thought about these two teams the way
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: we were thinking about it.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I thought of that as a toss up game, just
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: like all the rest of them. They went. In my opinion,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: they went ten and two in toss up games. I
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: thought they would go like six and six and toss
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: up games. So I give them all the credit in
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: the world. So taking care of the taking care of business, well,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: I just like to have a little the analysis. It's yeah,
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: it's nothing to be further from the truth from that,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: all right. I'm just glad that we're able to talk
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: about Drake May winning the m v P. And we
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: don't want to jinx anything like acts like children. You know.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: All right, back to the phones, we go, Uh, let's
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: go to herm in DC.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: What's up?
• 47:21
  Speaker 14: Herm?
• 47:23
  Speaker 15: What's going on?
• 47:24
  Speaker 11: Fellas?
• 47:27
  Speaker 16: I'm feeling good today. So two quick questions for you guys.
• 47:30
  Speaker 10: Right, So the first question is going into the playoffs,
• 47:34
  Speaker 10: obviously with met Collins being too reserve, which couple my surprise,
• 47:38
  Speaker 10: how will the offense more?
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 47:43
  Speaker 15: It could escentism be a serious solution for replacing mc collins.
• 47:49
  Speaker 15: And my second question is kind of a loaded questions.
• 47:52
  Speaker 15: Right again, I'm in a good move, so I want
• 47:54
  Speaker 15: to be nice today.
• 47:55
  Speaker 13: If you guys were to be tasked.
• 47:58
  Speaker 10: To be consultants for a team of like bad now, right,
• 48:03
  Speaker 10: what it s the Jets?
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: Whoever? Right?
• 48:05
  Speaker 10: And obviously you probably have to help him find a quarterback?
• 48:09
  Speaker 10: What is your guys' criteria for evaluating a quarterback?
• 48:13
  Speaker 14: Right?
• 48:13
  Speaker 10: So obviously everybody probably try to find the next Drake May,
• 48:16
  Speaker 10: which is obviously the equivalent will follow the new Haystack.
• 48:19
  Speaker 10: But I guess my question is you guys this personal
• 48:23
  Speaker 10: criteria for drafting, yep, a quarterback? So what do you
• 48:29
  Speaker 10: guys look for specifically?
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: So I was just hired to be a consultant for
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: the New York Jets. We need to turn this thing around.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: We need to get ourselves a quarterback. The first thing
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: I do is I look internally, what are we bringing
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: whoever the quarterback into Do we have the right system
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: around him and support system to bring in a young
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: quarterback and make him good. That's the first thing I
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: would do, is who would my coaches? You know, who's
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: my coordinator? Do I need to look at that first?
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: Because I want to make sure that whatever whoever I get,
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: he's coming into a good situation from a support standpoint.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: That's the That's the first thing. And we know that
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: from experience like what happened from Matt Jones on to here,
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: like what that can look like, both bad and good.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: So that's the first thing I would do. And then
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: I would then I would say, Okay, now who do
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: we want to get?
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: So I actually did this in the twenty twenty four draft.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: You got paid to be No, I keep telling him.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: That's what I came up with my own criteria when
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: the Patriots were drafting third overall and twenty twenty four
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: of what I would want in a quarterback. This is
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: why Drake was my pick because he fits all these boxes.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: But I had three boxes that I wanted them to check.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Elite physical traits, generates easy velocity from congested pockets. I
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: think that's maybe the most underrated thing of anything with quarterbacks,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: because when you have in the nflckets are much different
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: in the NFL than they are in college. In college,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: they have all this room to throw, they can step
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: up into it, there's nobody around them, especially these really
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: good schools quarterbacks that come from like Alabama and Ohio
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: State that have these offensive lines that are five NFL
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: players on the line. They're never under pressure. So when
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: guys are in your lap, guys are at your feet, like,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: can you throw the ball at the same amount of velocity.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: That was what, in my opinion, is why mac Jones
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: failed is because mac Jones could only drive the ball
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: down the field with clean pockets. So that was those
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: two first things. The second one was at least a
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: general grasp of mental processing, Like I don't need you
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: to be Tom Brady right out of the shoot, but
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: it needs to look like you have a general idea
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: of what you're doing back there. From a mental processing standpoint,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: I'd rather sacrifice that than the traits, but I need
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: to have at least a little bit of I like
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: that I know where he's looking. I understand why he's
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: looking over there. He's seeing the coverages things like that.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: But I think the one thing that mac Jones taught
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: me was that you need to have a baseline level
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: of talent, like you just can't. You can't get away
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: with it all mentally and and vice versa.
• 51:10
  Speaker 8: I like that.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: I think those are three good points, you know, you know,
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: I would refine the last one to how fast can
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: you process accurately?
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that one's tough because again, like in college, they
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: just have all day.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: I know back there, there has to be some way
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: to at least get an idea, testing or whatever. Once
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: you start scouting these guys like to gauge that, to
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: put a number on it, because that's the speed of
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: the game.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: In the NFL.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: The pockets are smaller. You have to think faster and
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: be able to just figure out what you're going to
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: do like half the time you have in college, yeah,
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: if not more. And that's where I think guys fail.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: I love Evan's thing about the generating velocity deal because
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: that's something that Drake I'm always like they're.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Closing in and he's able to get it. Operate in
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: the phone booth because that's the NFL pocket you're never
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: going to. You's sitting in a pocket that's perfectly clean
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: in the NFL.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: I think that's huge, and I think it's one of
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Drake May's best trades. I can't believe how many accurate
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: throws down the field he's made. Well, the skipp and rip,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: you know, like he's moving with guys at his feet
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: and he's sometimes in the air. That's a lead arm talent.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah thing, And I think this is actually, you know,
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I think there's more guys like that than you think. Yeah,
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: those guys that have skill.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: I think this year's kind of proven it out though,
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: that you need an experienced offensive coach to mentor that person,
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: whether it's Ben Johnson the head coach, or you know
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: Sean Payton in Denver with from Nick Fred's point, or
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: you know this year with Josh McDaniels. It's just I
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: think you need a guy. I mean, it was nice
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: last year they tried with alex man Pelp, but and
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: an inexperienced guy who hadn't really done it, didn't know
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: all the ins and outs of everything that that young
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: quarterback is going to have to face.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: And that's that would be priority one for me.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: It doesn't necessarily have to be the head coach. It can,
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: it can be the offensive coordinator.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: That's a structure.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: But having you know a guy that you believe that's
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: done it before, that you can and trust the quarterbacks
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: development too.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: I think guys like Drake May, guys like Josh Allen,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: guys like Justin Herbert have changed a lot about how
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: we evaluate that position where I think a lot of
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: people prioritized processing accuracy, you know, that sort of stuff,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: which is extremely important, but I think that the physical
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: tools are unteachable, Like you can't either the guys he's
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: an athlete and he has arm talent or he doesn't.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Like there's no unlockstep with Evan on this, and it's
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: why I really liked Caleb Williams and Drake May in
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: that class, and that's been a good class. Those are
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: not the only two guys that have had any success.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: There's different ways to do it, but that's why those
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: two guys stood out to me. And I would ask,
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: if you could only have one of the two, would
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: you want a guy with the skills that Drake May
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: has or the aptitude that Kyle Shanahan has or Sean
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: McVay like, I'm not sure. I've seen a lot of
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: great skill. Like I saw Kyle Shanahan win some games
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: with Mac Jones because he has a great scheme and
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: obviously he made it, but he's just not good enough.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: He's not good They weren't gonna win it with him.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Now. I don't know.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Evan might be right about Perdy.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Perdy might not be good enough either.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: Right now he's on a heater playing well. You know
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: who knows. I'm just looking at this stuff because you
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: had made this earlier in the show, Mike. There's sixteen
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks that still have a chance to make the playoffs
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: because we don't know if it's gonna be Tampa or
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Carolina in the NFC. We don't know if it's gonna
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: be Baltimore or Pittsburgh in the AFC. So there's sixteen
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks alive. You know how many of them weren't first
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: round picks. Two Purdy who was a seventh round pick,
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: and Jalen Hurts who was a second round pick. Every
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: other guy was not only a first round pick, the
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: vast majority of them were top ten picks. Yeah, you know,
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: it's Drake May, Trevor Lawrence, C. J. Stroud, Josh Allen,
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, Sam Darnold Baker, Mayfield, Bryce Young, and Caleb Williams.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Those guys were all in the top five, let alone
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: top half of the round, top ten. I think Josh
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Allen was ten or seven something like that. They're all
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: top pit. You want to quote a quarterback with the
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: skills that Evan's talking about, you're not going to get them.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: Like Purty is fine, but he doesn't have those skills.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: And I'd say the same thing about Jalen Hurts, who
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: his second round pick is fine, but when he's asked
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: to do the heavy lifting, I think the things that
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: you look for is like, are these these are the
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: skills that are going to translate to we can put
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: it on his back and he's going to be able to,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: you know, bring us to the problem.
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: Sorry, but they couldn't get a first down against Buffalo.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: So the weather was it was miserable. It really was miserable.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: It was a cold rain. Five of those guys were
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: first overall picks. I can't believe they.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Couldn't run the ball in Buffalo.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the thing that surprised me, like, I
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: kind of think they shut it down in the second half,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: figuring they're not scoring on us. And I don't think
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: that they didn't try to move the ball. They threw
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: a couple not suggesting that, but I figured that they
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: thought we got a thirteen point lead, they can't move
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: the ball on us, and we're just going to run
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: the ball in the second half and they couldn't. That
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: the day was that surprised me. They should have taken
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: the points.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: In the third quarter.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: Buffalo should have taken the one, should have taken the fieldw.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: I totally agree that's the one who can we get
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: back to that game a little bit because like the
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: McDermott thing that I think he's not catching any flag
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: four is that like they couldn't move the ball, they
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: completely lost control of the line the whole game.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: The Eagles front dominated the game.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: Every yard that Buffalo got was a struggle and a half,
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: and like Mike said, was like Josh Allen leaving a
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: part of his soul on the field.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: This hole they had.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: Momentum thing, Dude, can I go over that game winning drive?
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Quote unquote. The game winning drive then included a fourth
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: and ten hooking ladder a jump ball to my boy
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Mount Cooks, who made an unbelievable catch. Josh Allen on
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: third and goal broke seventeen tackles to get like down
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: to like the two yard line, and then they needed
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: a fourth down like push to get in the end. Like.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: I give them all the credit in the world, buffalo,
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: But if I was Sean McDermott, I wouldn't have said,
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know. If I don't I don't know, if
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: I don't feel real good about putting another ten play
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: drive together, I'm taking one play to try to win
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: the game right now. And it was there, and the
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: quarterback missed the throw. Yeah, yeah, I mean it was there. Yeah,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: I mean I he choked, what are you gonna do?
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: He missed it? I just get torn with him.
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't mind the division to go for
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: the decision to go for two just because you have
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen and I under like.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: And I that play has got to be completed ten
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: times out of ten.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And how many of those miss throat right? And
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: how many of those plays did he make?
• 57:38
  Speaker 11: You know?
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: And there were some big conversions he already made them
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: over and over again.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: What I'm saying like I I like we were home
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: in time for the whole second half of that game, Buffalo.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Every yard they got was like a miracle.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, That's what I find so unbelievable about their offense.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: It's like, is that, you know, besides Cook's moss and
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: a guy, they have no downfield passing.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Game nothing, you know, it's all and that's not sustainable
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: down it And it made a couple of big catches
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: down the field in this game, but.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Right, that's not something like the Bills that we know
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: are a team that was Josh Allen's got the best
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: arm pound in the league. It's explosive, and they're still explosive,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: but it's so different. It's run game, it's yards after
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: the catch, and it's the tight end. A lot of
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: it's cooked the tight ends, like Shakiir underneath.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: And they definitely miss Kincaid in that game too, but
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: like they just couldn't they couldn't give him any time
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: to throw, and he's running around trying to make plays
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: because he had to. He took one sack that he
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: ended up fumbling the ball and lost like forty yards
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: and that led to the only touchdown of the game.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: For the Eagles, and then he took another sack when
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: they took over in great field position that was had
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: to be like a twenty yard loss and knocked him
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: out of a field goal just like. But I see
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: with you, Fred, they had taken the first field goal,
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: which I think happened very early in the fourth quarter.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: That changed.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: There was plenty of time for possessions. I think it
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: might even late third.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong, but yeah, but I thought I thought
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: it was the fourth, but it might be.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: You might be right. It might have been late third.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: And and the way I look at it is that
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: you had no control of the So why do you
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: think you're going to get a fourth and goal from
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: the five? You have no control of the line of
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: scrimmage here? Why is this one? You know what I mean? Like,
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: at least if I can get if I can get
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: two yards at the end, you know, And Josh Allen
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: came a couple of blades of grass away from getting
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: in from the two yard line. I'll take my chances
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: that maybe he can make a play. But I just
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: didn't know at that time. Take the field goal. Now,
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: maybe they knew the field goal kicker couldn't make that either,
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: but they let him take the extra point.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: It's just crazy to me that offense with Josh Allen
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: has such a tough time moving the ball sometimes. I know,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: and that and that's he's awesome. So that's it's and and.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: Credit they you know they but they contained Cook too.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: They didn't let Cook running five yards to carry like
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: that's the key. It should not be it should not
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: be this hard for Buffalo.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: But it was.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: It was a great game to watch though. That was
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: like an old school game, like you normally thirteen twelve.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, you know, do that on your own time.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: But that was a good game to watch. It was.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: That was so much fun. It was.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 11: It.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I never rooted against Buffalo's hard
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: in my life.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, obviously Patriots had rooting interest, but I
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: just met the manner in which the game unfolded, like
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: very different kind of game. The Patriots had no stakes in.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: The Sunday Night game was also fascinating to watch, but
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: in a whole different way. Forty two thirty eight, it
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: comes down to two yards away again. You know, if Chicago,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: you know, falls two yards shut.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: I just don't like having to chase it so early.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: It's like you don't know how the game's going to unfold,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: and you have an opportunity for points.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: What were they down thirteen nothing.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: Thirteen, so that's thirteen three. Then you score, it's thirteen
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: to nine. Even if you do miss that extra point
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: and then the touchdown wins it. I know, you can't
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: play it like that because things change. Maybe, yeah, maybe
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: the Eagles treat some of their offensive possessions differently had
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: they scored. But I think that the line of thought
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: was like, you're going to have them backed up and
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: then we'll get the ball back. And they did get
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: it that stuff, but that's got it right. That's the
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: possession that Allen ended up taking that big sack because
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: they had no control of the line of scrimming right. Yeah,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: it's just crazy.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that they couldn't the Philly couldn't run
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: the ball, Like that's a bad Bills round.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: They got a little banged up.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: He came back in the game, but they weren't getting anything. Yeah,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: and they you know, I think that's the biggest problem
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: with the Eagles. Like the Eagles are a run first
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: offense that can't run the ball, so that's not a
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: good formula for that.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: Did you guys when you were on the bus and
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: the plane feel like the tension around you because I
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: imagine you're on devices.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: But then you're moving so you're playing.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: It was really bad because the Wi Fi wasn't that good,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: so like it was sporadic, so you you know, you
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: get it back and like you know, like a possession
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: had changed, right, That's what I imagine the tension once
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: we got on the bus.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Some streams are working.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: I am, I mean, I am interested in that because
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: I was part of it with Freddy, the one you
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: talked about with O one now, but that was life
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: and death, like the buy, whether you're playing like it was,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: was it similar to that because to me, like.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: We had wrapped We beat the Panthers and we wrapped
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: up the AFC East on that game, so we on
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: the plane home, we needed the Jets to beat the
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: Raiders in order to get the buy and it was
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: the second vibe. We weren't the number one, and so
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: it was right down to the wire and we were
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: looking on these little TVs with antennas and it was
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: the stats guy from BCN the radio at the time
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: who said, oh, Raiders won, you know, And and then
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: Charlie Weiss was up front and he had his own
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: TV and like maybe two three minutes later, he's like
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: it's not over.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: We're like what.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: So he's in the middle of the aisle watching this
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: thing and he's like he's counting it down. It's like, oh,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: Jets win, and the whole plane erupted.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: I gotta be honest for it.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know you could actually get a TV
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: signal on a plane.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: You go from like one area of reception to another,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: so like it'll lose it for like thirty seconds and
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: then it'll come back. And it's like the old days
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: when HBO started and you didn't really pay for it
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: and you're looking for the nipple between.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: The lines, you know, right?
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Who didn't like I didn't do that?
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: Did you you have a scrambler? You got in the scrambler?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: Of course everybody did. I was. I was out with
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: those boys on Saturdays. One more to worry about it.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: I was texting Barth was texting me while we were
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: in the air, and like he's like reacting dead plays.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: Happening in the game.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: And he's like he's like, oh no, and I'm like,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: what happened? Like visceral hatred totally.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: I would have if I were you, I would have
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: felt like you had no idea what even happened.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: I couldn't do it, and I had to because my
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: streaming was behind, and so finally I'm like, I can't
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: do this, Like on the last place, I'm looking at
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: my phone to jump ahead just to see because I
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: couldn't wait.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: Like I'm like, on into my seat. I mean, obviously
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: you want to what happened. You want it to happen
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: so you can get it over with, but like, really,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: there wasn't just much to me pressure because you were
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: going to beat my am me this week anyway and
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: win the division. You know, you didn't want to have
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: to go on no, like in the one, the one
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: he's talking about, an one, like there was an enormous difference.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Raiders win this game, you have to play a wildcard
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: game and then go to Oakland the next week as
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: opposed to the Jets. Win that game, you get the
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: week and then Oakland comes to you. That's a huge
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: with one more point for just one other thing.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: I kind of like and made This is probably nonsense,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: but like having secured the division, if they win, no
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: matter the result of this weekend, they probably win. It's
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: not like we made it. It's just a big celebration.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: We won the division and we're partying like it. Kind
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: of as soon as this game ends on on Sunday,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: it's going to be right to the playoffs the focus,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: So you kind of got that like celebratory part of
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: it out of the way.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: And I don't know, I just I think for a
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: team that's probably gonna have to play next weekend as well,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: it's it's a nice little bonus for me.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: Michael's in Texas. What's up, Michael, Hey, thanks for taking
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: my call.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 7: Happy Tuesday, you guys. Hey, So I wanted to quickly
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 7: I'm in on the whole Drake may nickname topic. I
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 7: know you tried to close the book on it.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 14: Fred, you know, hear me out.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So everybody.
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  Speaker 7: Has has deemed Josh Allen Superman, you know, rightfully so,
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  Speaker 12: So I say that we embrace it.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 7: The NFL's worst freaking nightmare is back. It's Drake Doomsday.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go Doomsday. May I don't I don't need it, Michael,
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  Speaker 1: all right, all right, always, Well, we.
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  Speaker 8: Okay, how are you hi, Karen? How are you good?
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  Speaker 2: How are you Mike?
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  Speaker 8: Right?
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  Speaker 1: I will thee bus ride home?
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  Speaker 12: Kind of being able to find.
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  Speaker 1: Out to celebrate in THEFC East Final, I.
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  Speaker 8: Mean it was great. You know, everybody was kind of
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  Speaker 8: watching on their phones or fallowing along, and.
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  Speaker 19: You know, I think the timing of it worked out
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 19: well that, you know, the Eagles we were able to win,
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  Speaker 19: and then we were able to kind of time it
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  Speaker 19: up here and have the have the hats and the
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  Speaker 19: T shirts here ready to go pretty quickly, and so
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 19: I appreciate that, and you know, Stick's crew having that
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 19: ready to go. Players enjoyed it, staff enjoyed it. I
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 19: thought it was perfect timing, and then everybody kind of
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 19: went on their way.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 18: Funny balance seeking the time to celebrate while also keeping
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 18: your slightes out there.
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  Speaker 19: It's about fifteen minutes to get a picture the shirts
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  Speaker 19: passed out and the hats passed out and the pictures organized.
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  Speaker 19: But other than that, back to work and focused on
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 19: the dolphins and focused on who we may have and
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 19: a plan that we'll have to try to put together
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  Speaker 19: to improve. And I think that's the biggest thing, is
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 19: just trying to you know, really target the things that
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 19: can reasonably be improved from a technical standpoint, and just
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 19: you know, things that come up throughout the game that
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 19: we maybe been working on and that we've seen or
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 19: saw and then you know, some things that we maybe
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 19: been working on that that haven't showed up.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what you do.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 8: You stay consistent and just continue to coach and coach.
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  Speaker 19: Again, I'd always talk about coaching the action and not
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 19: the result, making sure that the actions are positive and
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 19: what we're looking for to help the team.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 18: Quest conference, you said that you were unsure your team
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 18: was capable of taking advantage of basketball.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 19: Yet at what point did that shift for you or Yeah,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 19: I think that's probably It kind of goes up and down.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 19: Any that changes by the day. Some days we do
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 19: and sometimes we don't. So I would say that we
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 19: have done that more more time than not.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: How much does funer Henry does not to find what
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: you look for in a meeting When we talk about
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: the culture who won here?
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 19: Well, I would just again talk about his consistency from
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 19: the very first time that I've been here with him,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 19: through through the OTAs, through the off season, his work,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 19: his knowledge, but then being at training camp and you know,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 19: being where he's supposed to be and kind of always
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 19: making the plays that we need him to make.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 8: And uh. But so I appreciate him.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 19: I appreciate his leadership, and he always has good perspective
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 19: value his opinion.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 8: That I always take it.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 19: But you know, I appreciate the fact that he's not
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 19: you know, he's comfortable sharing, you know, the locker room
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 19: and the thoughts of the locker room or or maybe
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 19: what guys have going on and how I can address it.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: Injury, is that something where you could see him come
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: back in the postseason At the time, I'm.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 19: Right again, we won't be able to see him for
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 19: another three weeks. So at that point in time then
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 19: we would have, you know, make a decision. And I
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 19: hope that's one that we could make. But right now,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 19: I don't think I can you know, predict anything last
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 19: week that was a game injury yet WI check West
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 19: rusa him go out with an Angel.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 12: Injury deal they have on him.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 19: Sore probably could have returned, but won't monitor him here
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 19: in the next couple of days. I don't think it's
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 19: anything that you know, it's too significant. But you know,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 19: we'll just see how he, you know, progresses here when
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 19: we get back to work.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: That's good to you handle. You have a crystal ball.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: He think he will practice.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 8: I think he will coach real quick.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 5: Obviously, when you beat a team forty two to ten,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: from a coaching standpoint, there isn't a lot there to
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 5: complain about, right, But then you guys.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 8: Give up the there's plenty. There's plenty too, we can
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 8: find it right right.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: I was gonna say, but then you give up the
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: fake punt. There is that something where you could look
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: at a play like that and say, hey, you know what,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 5: we won forty.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: Two to ten.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 8: But yeah, I think a guy made a play. I mean,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 8: it wasn't that they caught us off guard. We had
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 8: a guy there.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 19: We were expecting that all week. I give Jeremy and
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 19: Tom all the credit to players.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 8: For being ready. I just think the guy made a play.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 8: You know, Schools was there.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 19: I think Schools will tell you that, you know, he
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 19: wished he had that one back and to make the play.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 19: It came back the next time and overloaded us. And again,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 19: I'm really excited for those guys out there that had
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 19: practiced that. And we always kind of make a joke
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 19: about the great team and getting ready and having their
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 19: hands in the ground and feet set when they rushed
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 19: to the line of scrimmage. They overloaded us to the right,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 19: which is something that we had seen him do.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 8: To our left. We got guys over there case he
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 8: made a great play. Corey made a great play, So
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 8: you know, I just we were prepared for the other one.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 8: They made a play.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 19: But there are a lot more other details that and
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 19: technique things and tackling and finishing and protecting a quarterback
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 19: and blocking some of these runs that we can improve on.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 19: Not to sit there and harp on the five yard
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 19: pass that they completed on you know, the punt return team.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: You seem Drake that allows him to play with so
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: much poison decisiveness. When the team started, the sky's covered
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: just against him.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 19: I just think he's getting a lot more comfortable, is knowledgeable.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 19: I think it means a lot to him to be
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 19: able to manage and understand what where we're going with
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 19: the football and the run game, and you know, in
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 19: the passing game and knowing where he needs to be
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 19: and where the protection issue may be and you and
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 19: then I think there's trust with with the protection. You know,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 19: at times I think that there's trust. I think that
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 19: there's a trust that he can transfer into the pocket.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 19: He can also extend. You know, they got him a
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 19: little bit onto one coverage and they jumped in the
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 19: cover two. He took a peek and then then took
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 19: off and so you know, I know, defensively, that's frustrating
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 19: because here you are you so you get a quarterback
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 19: to think it's one coverage and it's something else, and
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 19: then all of a sudden he just takes off and
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 19: scrambles for a first down.
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  Speaker 8: So, uh, those are great.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 19: Qualities to have and not panicing and throwing it into
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 19: you know, roll coverage and you know, just being able
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 19: to pull the ball down and find an escape room.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: Speaking of qualities, I know you want and enjoy having
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: a tough Repull team. How much does it help if
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: your quarterback is one of the leaders in the toughness can.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 19: Well again, we always talk about I believe that Drake
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 19: is tough. I don't think we have to put it
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 19: to the test. Or you know, we don't have to
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 19: always challenge his toughness. I think we just need to
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 19: protect him the best that we can. And he has
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 19: to understand that when he has the football, where he
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 19: needs to be and how he can protect himself. So
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 19: it helps to see him out there and blocking for
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 19: guys on reverses or you know, being able to stand
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 19: in there and deliver the football.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah, there's no question. I don't question is toughness at all.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: And now great moments in.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: History.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: Did you stand up on the third level of the
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: state look out on the parking lot now and remember
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: what that parking lot used to look like.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 12: It was.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: Like a big flea market park. We got to bring
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: morel into to make sure we were all safe.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and bring on the marine like just how.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: Like the cement structures of like walking out into the
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: lower level where like you kind of come down the
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: ramp but you'd still be in like this like turret
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: almost like you know, and then you'd come up and oh,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: here's the stadium. There's a field, like what's right here?
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: But I remember raining there and it would just be
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: like a river coming through those things, like you know.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: You couldn't even get to it would come out of
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: the pipe right down the stairs.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: And even inside you know they had that one building
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: in the end zone that was the build off. It
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: was there, the locker room, yeah, you and everything, and
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: the backstairs led down to the locker room and the
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: super box. The rightmell of urine would just waved up
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: into the wait like where.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: It would wat waft waft loft wafted.
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  Speaker 2: It was just awful.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: All Right.
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  Speaker 3: We're back eight five five past five hundred. Is the
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: Hotline podcast at Patriots dot com is the email address.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: Let's get right into it. We'll start with Boston Cream.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: What's up Boston Cream?
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  Speaker 13: Yo, yo, Hey guys, hey, hey, I got a question
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 13: for Paul and a question for Fred. Paul, what's it
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 13: gonna take for Drake made to surpassed her BLOODSOE in
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 13: your in your heart, in.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: My heart, question in my heart? That that would be
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: a tall, tall order. But as a player, he's already
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: done things that drew BLEDSOE never did speak of you, Paul,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: n ideal in.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: Fact scrambled once more.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: Emotion.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: What was the deer or whatever was? What did Ernie
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: Adams compare him too.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 13: And friend for our pats fans pick them. We're coming
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 13: down to the last week. Is there any way the
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 13: show could organize some sort of prize for the winner?
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get something something good Jersey Mike Skiff.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 13: Cirk are currently is Kevin from Minnesota, I believe, and
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 13: he's one seventy five and eighty one.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, pretty good.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: The question, Boston Cream, is anyone worse than me? Please?
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 8: Please?
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: One seventy five and eighty one?
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 13: Yes, the people who gave up in week one are
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 13: somehow worse than.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: Seventy five and eighty one.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: Well, they didn't start, did they start week one?
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: Is it not mathing?
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: It's not mathing, it's not adding up? Oh you know
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: what I haven't added in this week? Never mind?
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 13: Yeah, thank you guys, love the show.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, thanks Cream, Thanks thanks Boston Cream in credit than us?
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh no, he's this kid's doing well? Yeah. I
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: mean our leader had eighty three losses heading into week seventeen.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: What was there?
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: What was their record?
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: He said one something in eighty one? Okay.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: Deshaun's in West Virginia. Hey, Deshaun, how's it going all right?
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  Speaker 9: Good?
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 11: I want to think about saying that I'm glad of
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 11: how the city is I could playing out because regardless
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 11: how the other pacers fans field, I think we are
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 11: just to afford the builds, all got all costs, because
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 11: would you actually look at those other teams that Johnson
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 11: had to struggle against, like the Eagles, like the Texas.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 11: People want to talk about excell and nose, but it's
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 11: really about the personnel too. They really had the personnel
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 11: to really beat up on Josh Allen, really frustrate him
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 11: and make them touch the ball to the point where
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 11: he gets frustrated, can't find anybody that he can throw
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 11: the Stem champions or whatever. The Pagers don't have that.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 11: So I feel like that if you can go through it,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 11: they go through, some teams are much better equipped to
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 11: handle him. I'll feel much better about our chances advancing
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 11: forward because we don't have those guys that the other
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 11: teams have. That's thanks what I wanted to say.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, thanks to Sean.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: I think defensively, you're putting a lot of eggs in
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: Milton Williams Roberts playing Kiris Tonga and Harold Landry coming
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: back and being close to one hundred percent in what
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: they were at the beginning of the season because I
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: went to Sean, I think disruption wise, you know, whether
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: it's against the run or pressuring quarterbacks, they haven't really
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: been great. I didn't even think they were that great
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: against the Jets, to be honest with you. But they
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: need those guys back, and I think that changes a lot.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: I just named, you know, you start eleven guys, and
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: I just named four of them that didn't play in
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: the game. And I haven't been playing. So as much
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: as I agree on the surface that they might not
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: have a will Anderson and a Daniel Hunter and guys
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: like that, you know, Milton Williams is a difference making player.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: So if he comes back and he's himself and the
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: ankle's fine and all that stuff, like you got to
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: kind of put yourself back into more like what they
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: were in Week five against Buffalo, when they were disruptive
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: and they were stopping the run and not the team
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: that you saw out there a couple of weeks ago.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: Such a key to me is like it's just such
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: a different team without Cook, you know, like him being
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: able to run, Like it seems like that's all they
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: have and when he can't get going now, it's like,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 4: all right, Josh, it's all on you to do everything now.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: At least when he has that element, you know, he's
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: able to. You know, it just balances things out a
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: little bit, both in the passing game in the run game.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: But I just was at the thing, I mean, is
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: it right?
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: Patriots most likely path would be the Chargers, the Texans,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: and then the winner of the Bills and Broncos.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: Well, if you assume the Texans we are going to
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: upset the Jaguars. Okay, so the Chargers are definitely the
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: most likely first round matchup, Yes, but there's still some
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: question about Buffalo and the Texans. Yeah, all three of
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: them really, but who like who wins? Right, because if
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: Buffalo probably gonna win right there there, the well, the
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: Patriots win their game, and then let's say the Texans
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: are the Bills upset the Jaguars, then that team's going
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: to Denver because they receeds. It's not a bracket. So yeah,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: the worst remaining seed.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: I just I just really fell in love with there briefly,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: being like, oh, Buffalo would have to go to Denver,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: and then the Patriots are gonna.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: Have to go to Denver or I think that's possible.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: That would be the most likely scenario, I think, because
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: I think Buffalo is probably going to be said. I
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: think it's going to be Houston five, Buffalo six, Chargers seven. Right, So,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: assuming the Patriots win, the next lowest seed would be Buffalo.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: If they were to win and they're going and they
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: would have to go to Denver, I'd like that. I
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: would like that very much.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Patriots could then you know, theoretically draw like
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: the Steelers. Yeah, in the division round. Yeah, I would
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: say probably Houston or if Houston beats Pittsburgh.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: I think the league really took it to an absurd
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: level this year with the whole Denver home game.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: Giving them the first seat like that, just to make
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: sure that they you know, it's crazy paying Jim Harbaugh
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: that his quarterback in the last thought was you know,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: I thought that was his favorite for John Harbor.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: It was a bridge too far.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: That was a John har It's it's a it's a
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: deep conspiracy, you know.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: I enjoy, like I've really come to enjoy the Broncos
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: playing every game at home. Is there like some kind
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: of rationality to how Jim Harbaugh is trying to help
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: John harbaught.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: It relates to the Patriots.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: It's because of us beating them. They don't want to
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: do us any favors who beat it, like what like
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: we beat the Ravens. So he's helping out his brother
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: because they're pissed up that we beat.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: So it helps out John Hobbaw that Jim Hobball now
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: has to go to Foxborough and play the Patriots.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: They want to beat us, They want to beat us. Oh,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: they want another crack at us.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: Let's throw this one out there. This time I'm going
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: to play Derek.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: But Baltimore doesn't have that choice anyway. Like I could
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: understand if you were saying Jim Hobbaugh wants to lose
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: this game because it helps Baltimore fall into the play
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: the Patriots in the playoffs. That would make some sense
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: to me. It wouldn't be accurate, but it would make
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: some sense to me. Here's here's a good conspiracy theory
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: for you. You want to for as long as we're
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: going to play in La La Land, I think Buffalo
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: hosts the Jets. You know, Josh Allen's probably going to
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: hand the ball off in the first play like he
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: did last year in Week eighteen, and then watch the
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: rest of the game Ski plays. Any chance the Jets
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: win that game, Yes, Any chance that the Bills lose
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: that game on purpose so they can fall to the
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: seventh seed and play the Patriots.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, and we'll spend the whole week saying they want
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: to douce, they want to do Yeah, I mean that's
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: what they did last year against the Patriots. Now maybe
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: they did it.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: It wasn't so they could play the Patriots.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, it was the Patriots didn't get the
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: number one pick, is what I think.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: Honestly, I guess the bigger question is there is there
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: any chance that the Chargers beat the Broncos.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a chance that there is. I think there's
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: a chance. I think the Broncos Broncos play games, and
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: Lance is this is like the you know the answer
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: to That's.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: Why I left it.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: Gave it the cheap popular looking for it.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: It's unbelievable, it really is.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: I think the Trey Lance is trying to establish himself.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: You know, it's four or five now, but he's trying
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: to find his way in the league, and the this
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: is an opportunity for him.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: He looked at good in the preseason. Honestly, I mean
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: that was a preseason, but he did look like better
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: than he has in the preseason. But yeah, they there's
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: I would be more interested to see who else for
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: the Chargers isn't gonna play like is Herbert one of
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: seven guys that are gonna sit? Seven regulars that are
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: gonna sit in the game? Was six whatever the amount
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: of in actors there is.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: Now it's a weird team.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: And it's like, yeah, James, der Mai and Hampton.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but like even they're not talking about like
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: sitting like Derwin James a great player, and but Khalil
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: Mack at this point.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: Whoever, whoever, you decide your key players, are you gonna
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: sit them? And now not only it's Trey Lance, but
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: it's Trey Lance with all backups.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean that's what the Bills did last year, right,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: they played all backups across the board.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: Sawyers and Penn state, what's up, Sawyer?
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: What's going on? You guys?
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 14: Hear me?
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 16: Awesome. So I'm here with my dad and brother. We
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 16: love the show, by the way, and we're split talking
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 16: about Drake may being an obvious m VP candidate, especially
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 16: after the Eagles game and Josh Allen kind of dropping
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 16: the ball. Sorry, Evan because I know that's your guy,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 16: and uh, between him and Matt staff would it be
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 16: better if Stafford won it this year and Drake another
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 16: year because it might go the team or Drake's head
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 16: might make it harder to resign him. And it actually
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 16: hasn't happened for a lot of qbs. It's only been uh,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 16: Dan Marino, Patrick Macomes and Lamar Jackson the only guys
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 16: that have everyone their m v P in their second
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 16: season to the Super Bowl, right.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: Just winning the m v P in the second year.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: What was the thing about resigning him.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's tougher because I don't think it
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: makes I don't think it.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: Makes caliber season whether he wins it or not. Yeah,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: he's gonna write his own yeah right, Yeah.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: I had someone mentioned that to me the other day
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: and was like, thanks, I'm going to add ten million
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: dollars And I was like, if he if he does
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: want to take the Patriots for everything, that like he
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: will get every last penny whether he wins the m
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: v P or not, Like he's going to be the
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: highest paid quarterback in the NFL if he wants to be.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 11: So.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: No, my guess whoever signs first between him and Caleb Williams.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, whoever signed second will be the highest paid player.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: Is there any chance that he has that incentive in
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: his contract? If I'm m v P, I get more.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: Now? No, No, you can't incentives?
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: Not really No, Okay, I thought that was the hang
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: up with rookie contract.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: No, no, it's how they pay out the language and whatnot.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, that's.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: How they pay out the guarantee. I get that one, right,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: sort of.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: Okay, the allocation of moneys. Yes, Francisco is in North Carolina.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: What's the Francisco?
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 6: What's going on?
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 9: Is going on?
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 13: So all right, so spurs, Lena say shout out with
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 13: my girlfriend and her mom.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 6: They told me that I couldn't ask for no.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 16: More Patriots stuff.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 9: So we have a local store down here that makes
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 9: like high school jerseys.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 14: So I had to pick me up with Drake May
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 14: and Stefon. Dig's high school jersey doesn't count Patriots stuff.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 12: Loop Bowl and then a second all right, so you know,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 12: before Graveon went out with his concussion.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 7: You know they were what was he the favorite Gwinn
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 7: Rookie of the Year that week or oh, he hadn't
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 7: thought about that.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: He's in he's in the mix to win that.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, with Ted McMillan and and the Bluka's falling off
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: a little bit, but yeah, he's he's in the mix.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: Ye.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: And there's an Ohio state thing for Rookie of the
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: Year too, works in his favorite A lot of Ohio
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: guys win Rookie of the Year. Good player Zeke.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 13: This week to lock it down.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 12: And then with the way the Rookie of the Year shaping.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 6: Up, what's the chances that it goes to a lineman instead?
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: Thank you guys, zero points zero.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they won't do that, even though I think that
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: that would be cool if a lineman was making Graham
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: doing solid fine.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: Not like Rookie of the Year. I mean, it's hard.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: It would be really really hard for an interior defensive
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: lineman or an offensive lineman to win an award like that.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: Usually somebody in a statistical position has had a good year.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Defensive Rookie of the Year I think
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: is going to go to Sweessenger who's been awesome for
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: the Browns, but to more Ohio state guys.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: By the way, Joey and Nick Bosa both edge rushers
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: who get a bunch of sacks, you know those kinds
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: of things.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Todd's and Gardner. Hey Todd, I can't say that name.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: It's tough.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 16: Hey, gentleman, how you do it?
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: Good? Hey Todd.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 6: So I tried to think of a nickname, and I
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 6: think them with Paul, I just don't think you can
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 6: is a good nickname.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 11: The only thing that I.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 6: Used a I for the nickname, and it came up
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 6: with the humble Howitzer And that sounds pretty pretty lame,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 6: and so.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: I tried to make it. I agree with Fred. Now,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: how about horror Witzer.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 6: And maybe like Jake make ready, make ready May?
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know that again, if you have to say
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: like I don't know, then it's not good. Yeah, it's
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: gotta be.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: No nickname, right, that's not that wasn't my thing. That's
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: what these I'm not taking credit for that. That's what
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: the Drake May lover did, right. He doesn't need a nickname.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: That's great. Drake May May May.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 11: He is himular guy in Florida to give us our nickname.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 11: You know, he's he's the guy for the nicknames, and
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 11: we'll just go.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 14: With whatever he thinks. Hopefully Nick maybe loves still West.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 4: Let's go there.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: All right, Thanks, Todd, be better.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 5: I don't need it.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 3: Nick.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 4: We haven't heard from Nick baby love this year. Hope
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 4: he's doing all right.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: And I think I don't know if I've ever talked
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: to Nick. He's a pre post guy, always calling.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: But yeah, whatever's wants to do. Nicknames can't wait. So
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: I've got tons of them here. I'll go through some Anthony.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: Draco, Draco, Draco already like Draco Malfoy. Somebody called was
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: calling him Draco. I think our social team is I
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: want to say it was last year though, and I
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: don't know if that person is still on the team,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: but they I've heard Draco before. Draco has been so like,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: what is that is?
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 4: It's like Draco Malfoy from Harry Potter.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: I think it's just like, well, it's just I just
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: thinks I'm taking full I'm owning it.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: I'm dismissive. I'm dismissive.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't heard I haven't heard Draco this season,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: but I definitely heard Draco last season.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: Claims that the conductor has been used by Rabel in
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: several teammates.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: The conductor. That sounds like kind of like.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: Right the conductor, little guy with a hat. Watch of
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: the train come into the state now.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: Like a word. I love the pops.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 4: I celebrate them every New Year's Eve. Hey, check out
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 4: first night in Boston.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: This right after, right after Eric and Maryland.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: During during the post game show, Paul let it be
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: known as disdain for Drake May as a nickname and
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: suggested it search for a new nickname. I don't recall
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: if my contribution may have been mentioned before, but I suggest.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: The Carolina Reaper.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: Carolina Reaper.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 14: Now.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: So it's no Humble Howitzer.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's a it's a little much.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: So we kind of shoot today with Humble Howitzer.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: I feel like I need to defend myself a little bit. Sure,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: there's this notion that like I don't get it, Like
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: it's like I just don't find it funny. It doesn't
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: have to be funny. I get it.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: I get that I find it funny at all.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: I'm not asking, I'm not It's what serious business we're
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: talking about here.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: So I was just suggesting that's really not a nickname.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: Now I understand that's the point. That's the point. I
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: understand that this is like every time I say it,
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: someone tweets me don't add no, but they try to
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: explain it to me, like like I'm two and I
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: don't get it, like I understand, like there was explained
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: to me. I don't even know how long ago about
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: the Drake maylover site, and I get like the kind
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: of origin I now, I was added a piece of
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: information during that postgame show. The Tom Brady part of
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: it was not explained to me initially, which I think
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: adds important context. I do too, Thank you, Evan.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: Finally somebody gets it. You're not serious, No, not his
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: whole conversation's not.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: It's very serious. You would not believe the amount of
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: people like, well, actually it means. And finally I just said,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: Lighten up.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: People like saying like I'm the old man, like screaming
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: into the like it's a bit.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: Tyler from Delaware has several uh, let's hear him. The
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: maestro No Carolina cold blooded.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: No, that's too many.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: Magic magic May was this magic magest Drake May Magic
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: May is not terrible.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: The dude going on, Dude, I.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: Get it, get ready for the playoffs.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: The dude, but the big the man, Marvelous Drake may
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: or its previously said in case you are reading this first,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: marvelous or may VP when he wins.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: The m v P.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, may VP is becoming a little bit more popular
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: as well. Play on words Drake and Bake. That one
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: just came to me.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 4: Stephen rip is a good one, right, the skipping rips
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 4: kind of his like not a nickname, but it's a
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 4: thing he does.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: It's too bad that Sam Malone stole may Day because
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: may Day would.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: Be good Jay and Indie Drake Mayo like the sandwich
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: bread because he spreads the ball around.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, that maybe had a chance until you show.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 8: Paul.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: I mean he owes his career to the guy who
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: drafted him, Elliot Wolf.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: Shout out, Elliott, good job, good pick.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: Let's see Sam. No, he doesn't have a good one.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: He thought Stephen Stefan Diggs started the Drake may may One.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: He didn't. It was, as Paul said, that's how it started.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah. John Drake is one of the youngest players in
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: the league at the moment and we had the goat,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: so now we get the next gen goat in the
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: kid Drake. The kid may work some two fronts and
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: is easy off the tongue. Why don't you call him
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: baby goat rather than confusing.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: One Fred is championing at the moment. Maybe it could be. Yes,
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: so I get that the kid, you know, which is
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: a playoff the goat. Not bad.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 4: A kid though, Beau like the name of baby cow
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 4: as a kid and right a calf. Sorry, goats are kids.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 4: I get confused by animals. I don't like sheep.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: Ted Williams was the kid. He was also the Splended Winter. Yeah, yeah, Jeremiah.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: What about Mayflower before the Sea? A lot of before
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: the season, A lot of fans would use it as
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 3: taking the Mayflower to the Promised Land, telling other people
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: or players to hop on while.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: He leads us to the super Bowl the Mayflower.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: Now, it's just so dismissive, it's so funny.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: There's this another tyler. Let Drake bake.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 3: No, let's see, let's see. Let's see another one. This
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: one the Kakilaki cannon.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: Oh I know that.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you Drake cake because he's a snack. Drake cakes okay,
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: Drake maylower literally and Michael watch out.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: So like none of these are well not moving the needle. No,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: but Travis has some nicknames for some of our callers. Nate,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: can you hear me?
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: Okay in Connecticut, Pat the Ambient and Agawam Todd the
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 3: nod in Carolina because he makes you not off, Sean
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: the yawn in Vancouver. Wow, Christian the Great Debate you
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: love to hate in La.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: That's pretty good. That was a bit mean.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: Well that's we love that, that's true.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 14: We do like that.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I like it.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: Another person, the kid, Yeah, he's not going to be
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 3: a kid forever, like you know what, like you name like, yeah,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 3: you come up with baby names and you got to
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: make sure that like is that going to be good
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: in like twenty years?
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: Like I can't call him the kid when he's thirty
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: five years old and still playing, you know, that's not
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: gonna make any sense.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Draco, it's bothering me.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: Who is saying? Who called him? Draco?
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: Josh in Atlanta says Draco was a semi automatic pistol.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: The nickname is not referring to Drake as a greasy
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: haired wizard.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, Mike, who's greasy haired.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: Huh yeah, So it's it's figured it's like a pistol,
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 3: you know. Okay, Mike missed the Actually better if it
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: was a shotgun.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: The rifleman.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: Oh uh.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 3: Fred another Fred, not me, says the Carolina cannon.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, I think we're gonna stick with Drake.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: Drake May I think so too. I don't know, I
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: know this isn't like, yeah, that's what that's what we're doing.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 12: Uh.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: Nick believes he's dropped the mic with his money May
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: money May.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: We'll see he's not a boxer. We'll see.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: Money May out of out of those, that's not not terrible.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 3: A further explanation as to what a draco is, uh,
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 3: Miller says it's a chopped down machine gun famous for
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 3: being hard to control and spraying. But to add the
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: nickname conversation, I've heard people call him Drake the schedule,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 3: the schedule, which only really works for this year. But
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 3: calling him the schedule is a bit of a uh.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: That's jab to all the people who say, I don't
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: mind that the schedule is kind of like the weekend
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah that singer, Oh yeah, I saw the concert, but
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: that that the schedule was popular.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: At one point. Great throw by the schedule, Yeah yeah,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: like some Monny tweets.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like holding it right, you know, like by
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: the schedule here.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like Drake May would throw like you know, bomb,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: you know, and then people would be like, oh, that
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: must have just been because it's an easy.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: Schedule, right, and so we had that much in his career.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: I would see, Yeah, I would liked it better if
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: it was from haters and they were making fun of Oh,
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: it was like making fun. No, it's here, it's z
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: owning it. I forgot it. It was a it's a
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: Patriots fan.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Drake May you know drops a dime sixty
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: five yards down the field. Must have been because it
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: was the schedule that the.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: Scheduled fourteen and three the worst nightmares.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 8: I like it.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 14: I like it.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: It's blocked now.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: I remember that one was big like around, you know,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: like the Saints Titans Brown stretch of the schedule.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 3: So if there's anything to replace Drake Drake when, to me,
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 3: it would be the schedule, the schedule.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: But I'm still on Drake's disrespect. Okay, all right, so
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: you're dismissive.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: How about how about Tim says, shake and Drake, Shake
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: and Drake and I helped.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 4: I like the skipp and rip though. I think that's
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 4: got to remain part of the Drake main universe because
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 4: it's a little the first touchdown of Hooper was a
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 4: little skipping rip.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: Not quite a respect not to have one, you know,
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: he has one has another one, pretty.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: Simple with d M because we slid into the playoffs.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: Tim has another one.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: The mayor.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 4: Definitely, yeah, the mayor, the mayor, I get it.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: Bruno says, since may Day has already taken, why not
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: May Drake. No, that doesn't make any sense just flipping
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 3: its name. Parker says, this isn't a democracy. When the
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 3: world has a player gotten a nickname that has blanketed
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 3: the fan base and then it changed, I.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: Don't know what that means. Yes, this is the nickname.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 3: It's all over social media. Everyone loves it. Let it go.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: Get on with f and Drake Drake may may because
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 3: the train is headed straight to the Super Bowl.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: I'm with you, Emailer. I've been trying to say that
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: for an hour and forty two minutes. This is the nickname,
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: and really it's just going to be Drake.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, when you're talking about real he's going to
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: be one of those guys. He's the first name Drake,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: and it's.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: Just it's just Drake may. He doesn't need some fancy Russell.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 3: And Florida breaking news. He said the Cowboys.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: They did? I think they anymore?
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: You have the emoji. I is looking at that brotherhood.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, very expensive contract. So if you claim him on waivers,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: you also claim the contract. And I guarantee you nobody
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: is going to want to claim that contract. So he's
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: probably going to be a free agent. Uh by time
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: he clears waivers. Everybody goes through waivers this time of year,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: washed after the trade deadline. Probably a little bit washed.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Eduardo, Drake, the night mayor may oh now the
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 3: night Man and too difficult the night may Let's see
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 3: l from Wisconsin. So Paul called me out last week,
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 3: and I hate to admit it, but he was right.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 3: I was being dumb. The clutch argument is not a
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: bad one. However, I don't know what that was about,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 3: but I feel like people were making it in bad face. Sure,
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: Tom Brady has a winning record while losing in the fourth.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 3: He's been that Tom. That's he's been that's Tom Brady.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 3: Come on, the one game isn't gonna settle it one
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 3: way or another.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I felt after the Buffalo game. In fairness,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: like one time he didn't come through, wasn't like he's
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: not clutch. But I say the same thing after Baltimore. Okay,
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: one time he did come through. I'm not now convinced
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: that that's never going to be a problem.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: That he needs to wear Sleeve's discussion is stupid and
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 3: I will never back down from that. My nickname suggestion.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: The chef. His wife bakes and when he's on the field,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: he cooks. Not not terrible, not terrible. It's not strong
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: and Michael would love it. It's not strong enough. I
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: love it baked.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 8: What is it?
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: Bake?
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: Baked?
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: Miss Big Big cameo in the last one by Will
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: Get Healthy Campbell sourdough cinnmonrole. I think it looked pretty
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: dang it was really good.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: Was that the Sports Hub yesterday? And there were a
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: couple of hats laying around from Aria, Oh really, and
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: I wanted to grab one. He Will, I know you're.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: I do appreciate the the Drake may Will Campbell friendship.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: Though that is that is real.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: They they are.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 4: They are very Campbell said, I die for you before
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 4: I even met them.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean they are like two peas in
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: a pod. Like they're both from the South, they're both
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty three years old. They're together all the time,
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: and it's kind of funny. I like it.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: Aiden's in Plymouth. What's up? Aiden?
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 6: Hey, guys, Sorry to butt in on the long conversation
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 6: about nicknames the same topic, but I got a pitch,
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 6: But I want to say that Drake Drake may May.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 6: It works better written out like I like that in
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 6: the internet comments. We don't really need to say it
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 6: as much. What I like about it is that, you know,
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 6: he defies comparison. He's self referential. He's a reference point.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 6: So whether we're talking about you know, overthrowing receivers, drake'sprays,
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 6: or our our rivalry uniforms which we could be calling
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 6: the Drake Grays, he is always the reference point. So
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 6: my thought was, Drake May is the name, that's the nickname.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 6: He's the name. It's really versatile. You can bring it
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 6: up in a lot of different ways. It could be like,
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 6: you know, I'm thinking of the breaking bad meme, say
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 6: my name Drake May.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: You know draking bad that's my pitch.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: One thing I just thought of and thanks for the call. Aiden.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: You know, Drake has shown us the way, so should
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 3: he be all the white mouse?
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 4: I thought, Peter Frampton all the way May, I thought,
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 4: maybe he's the way the way.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with Andalorian like, it's not the way
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: of Drake Drake May. May isn't to say the whole
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: thing like that. It's just that it's just Drake May,
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: Like he doesn't need a nickname, like we don't get it.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: So then why are we doing this for two hours?
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 3: Because all said, and he says, getting the mentions, Ball said,
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 3: maybe somebody will have.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: Nothing else going on with the football team right now. Well,
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: nicknames over and over again as usual. Friends, You were right.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: You have a feel for these things, and we have
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: not gotten very many. The Iron Maiden, Iron May.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: No, there are a lot of things that rhyme with
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: Drake and May though, so it is pretty.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: Chat says nothing but a dre day. No, No, I
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: do like the way though, the way he is the way? Eldred,
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: what's up? Yeah?
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 14: Hey, so all this? How you doing?
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 14: How about Uh, every to my feeling, I called him
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 14: the assassin, the throsy mate and you know the booty
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 14: and Witchcu and then Zone.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: I just called him the assassin, the assassin.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: This is what I always called assassin.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 14: I was just brustyle but other than that. But I
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 14: think y'all math Ron So y'all said, Buffalo go to
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 14: go to Denver. But that means Buffalo will have to
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 14: win a game. Yeah cause, uh Denver, you ever got
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 14: gotta buy?
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking about the second round.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 14: They would get the lowest the second.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, assuming the Patriots beat the Chargers. If they played
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: the Chargers and Buffalo is the next one, if they
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: were to win, then they would have to.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: Go to to Denver. Okay, but that's a that's a
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: long way down there.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 3: And you know, two weeks maybe if you think Josh
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 3: Allen is as good as you know Paul does, maybe
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 3: you're hoping for that because that's the way. That's the
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 3: route to having the AFC Championship Game in Foxborough.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: That's the whole reason why Mike brought it up in
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: the first place. Okay, good Mike, I wasna good Mike.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 20: So you can get insight like that on all Access
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 20: and Patriots this week. Also Superstar over there, Mike, Mike,
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 20: do so do so, it's just.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 3: The deuced Sorry, yeah, there's Patriots put a statement out,
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 3: so we ain't touching it, but you can read the
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 3: statement on patriots dot com and social Eldrid.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, okay, let's go to Brad in Ohio.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: What's up, Brad?
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 9: Hey, how you doing?
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 9: Good? So, you know, this is a kind of a
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 9: serious question, I guess because it's looking ahead.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 6: So my question is.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 16: What players are going to be.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 9: The most the ones that will play most likely in
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 9: the playoff games coming up, and what percentage do you
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 9: give those players to play given where.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: They're at right now and their.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 9: Injury, you know, the laugh up that you guys heard about,
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 9: because I'm just curious for that. And then again, if
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 9: you for the people that don't think you should play
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 9: with sleeves, you know, I've come from cold climbs my family.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 9: If you're going to stand out in ten degree weather
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 9: for thirty minutes, then let that person say that. So
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 9: that's I would say that. You know, it's different when
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 9: you're actually out in and having to work or something
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 9: like that.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 14: Yeah, so you might you might have to be.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 9: Prepared for it.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: So we talked about thanks.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, So is he just talking about all of the
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: players that are injured.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he wants to know the percentage of them coming
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 3: back each one.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would expect all of them to play. Besides
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: Holland solends on intro preserve.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: What about Spalline, that's the one I don't know.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: I would expect him to play. I expect him Tonga.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: Why do you expect him to Campbell? Because I think
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: all of this is they've kind of known that they've
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: been pretty locked in at this point with the playoffs
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: and with the division, and I think that So you're.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 3: Saying if it was a playoff game now, he'd be playing.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. And that's not a report.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: I just as just my hunch. I I just think
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: that a lot of this was we are in pretty
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: good shape, you know, and we have a pretty soft
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: end of the schedule, and so we're going to shut
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: some of these guys down and uh and get these
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: guys ready for the playoffs. So I think that pretty
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: much everybody at least has a very good chance to play.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: Of course, besides Matt Collins, who is going to be
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: on Into Preserve.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 4: I'm really surprised there's been no reporting on Spelene at all.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, Toma gets hurt and you're like, oh, it
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 4: sounds like a couple of weeks from Ian Rappaport, Like
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 4: you do nothing, Like we don't even.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: Know information attached to them really except for him. Now,
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: That's why I don't That's why I asked.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know, the question that I would
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: just have is, I think there are some questions about,
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: you know, what do you do with certain guys and
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: if their replacements are one hundred percent, you know, and
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: they're only at seventy five eighty percent, Like is an
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: eighty percent Harold Landry better than Anthony Jennings and Elijah
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: Ponder kind of recreating Harold Landry or Darien Loew and
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: Will Campbell and you know plays. I think Millon Williams
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: is the one guy where like, if he's even seventy
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: five percent, you're putting Millen Williams on the field. But
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: there are some questions about, you know, how healthy is
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: healthy and all that stuff. But I think a lot
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: of these guys were being managed towards the end of
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: the season and probably could have played if you know,
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: last week was a Yeah, like I.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: Would say Milton Williams could have been activated and play
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: last week. If we're a playoff game, I would think that.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean that he's necessarily ready to go.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: But I think if it's a playoff game, he probably
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: would have played. I don't like the concussion, guys, that's
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 2: a whole different thing. That's a protocol. Well, that's just
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know when Booty and Jared Wilson. They're going
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: to clear a protocol hopefully now.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: But that's a fair one. Yeah, that's out of their
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: hands in some ways.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously Henderson did and those other two didn't. Yeah,
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: you don't think they were resting them.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 4: Do you guys know, if the top of your head,
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 4: how many games Spayne has missed now, And I think
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 4: it's at.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: Least two since three since the bye, he's been out.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: Buffalo Baltimore and the Jets, and he really didn't play
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: very much in the second half of the Giants game before. Yeah, again,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: that's the only one that really hasn't had any reporting
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: attached on it.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 4: And then I mean, you wonderause I mean, I just
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 4: tell the look on Vrabel's face when they said, you know,
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 4: last week, is there any chance that we see Roberts
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 4: Splaine and he like kind of side look frush trated,
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 4: look like we will not, you know, not unless there's
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 4: there's a Christmas mirror to get back on the practice field.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 4: Like That's why to me that one was worth And
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 4: now I'm questioning what amount of games, like was there
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 4: an eye are consideration ever with him? Like or was
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 4: this something that you know, maybe it seems small in
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 4: that game that he came out of against the Giants,
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 4: and then you know, I mean he had an extra
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 4: bye week to get healthy on it.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: So hopefully Evan's right and he's sort of slow playing
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: it and down playing it, and then he is going.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 4: To be imagine Plaine is beside himself. I mean, he
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 4: seems like the kind of guy that would just ablete.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: That he was active and then didn't play.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: He was he was active in the Buffalo game, but
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: didn't play emergency. That was the weird one.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: That was weird. He went through warm ups, he clearly
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: didn't look right in warm ups, and then he didn't play.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: I was wondering even if something happened to him in Walmot. Yeah,
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: but I don't again, I mean if he had to speculating,
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 2: because it hasn't been any report.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 4: I mean based on what you've just I mean, like
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 4: high ankle sprain. Is an injury that that I mean
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 4: an ankle? Is it a foot or is it an ankle?
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 2: Change listed as an ankle. Originally I thought it was
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: a toe.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: It was a foot, then it was an ankle. Yeah,
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: they changed it.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: Weird. Uh, Sue's in either La or Louisiana. What's up, Sue? Oh?
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 9: Hi, I actually sent the nickname in but you didn't
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 9: read myte email.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 7: And Fred kind of started to say it the way
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 7: May the way, Drake.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: The way May Oh that's your friend, you like, I
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: don't mind the way.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 12: I think I started with the way in my email.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 7: Then I realized, even drakes the way may you, but.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 12: You can do both.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 13: I like it.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: It's a Mendalorian reference though, Yeah, okay, I like it
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: all right, thank you, mad. I kind of like Drake
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: the way Drake it flows away. But you're telling me
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: it's like a don't take something, takes a little something away.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: It's nerdy.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: We know, Paul, that is the way I like you,
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: just to give him wedgies and swirly birds. We would
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: not have been friends in high school, That's all you
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: got to say. Um, you guys would have been football
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: tewer because you were you were like heavy.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 4: Would have loved your route running, but it would have
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 4: been all hand offs and you'd be like, I'd love
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 4: to throw the ball to You're really smart.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: But I could get it.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: We got we got five minutes. What are your thoughts
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: on like, say, age fifteen sixteen, Uh, Friday night your head. Now,
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: go to a party, have a few middle of lights
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: at fifteen sixteen.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that wasn't my life. We're we're not asking, I'm asking.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: We're not promoting that, we're not encouraging.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: Would that would that be something that you would have
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: been interested in? Maybe?
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, so we would have been perfectly good friends. You
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 2: like sports, and you like to hang out on the
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 2: weekends and do things that you probably shouldn't at that age.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 4: This was a skys I liked cereal and sitting at
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 4: home that was hot cereal. In high school, I mean Paul,
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 4: I left after my June just up and left after my.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: Junior year like it was I'm going to get into
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 2: on this show.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: No, I was a homebody.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 4: I was definitely a homebody and a little bit of
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 4: a up and left like at.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: You never heard this story. We won't tell it on
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: the air, tell it off air. I had to get out.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: But uh, no, I was a home body. This really
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: sounds dark. He killed would try right?
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's ah.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 4: I wasn't a big go out guy until like and
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 4: then I went away and I kind of got, you know,
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 4: mature a little bit.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 2: And then I was like, all right, now I have
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: somethow I definitely wouldn't have been able to do what
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 2: you did as a senior in high school going to
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 2: prep school. No, no, ten repeat a year, and I
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 2: was like in state. I wasn't even ready to go
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 2: to college.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 3: I had a community stuck in Connecticut. Rights and uh,
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 3: to answer your question, Mike, when back when Gronk and
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 3: Hernandez joined the team, Andy Hart wanted them to be
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 3: g force an a bomb.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: He absolutely tried to make it a thing. Am I
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: think I remember doing that as well, that vaguely, vaguely
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 2: remember the two of them. Yeah, I think I try
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: too hard.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 4: Such a great last name and such an easy nickname
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 4: that's just soaper gronk.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: Like I was, like, it's staring in the face Andy.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: Oh you can you can say, right, you could be
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: deer from calling with Doug Gronk, which used to also
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 2: irritate Andy.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: It's not dougros Gronk.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 2: This is what you guys always do.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: You put words in my mouth.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 3: All right, well we tried, we tried, but the nickname
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 3: is Drake May May the way the way, the way
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 3: or the schedule are kind of run runner up and.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: Skipping the schedule would be like an NBA nickname, like.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: We really got to the bottom the big ticket.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 4: I like that you're going to continue this tomorrow and
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 4: catch twenty.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: If Evan and Alex spend one second on this tomorrow,
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: I will be stunned. Oh yeah one second. Oh no,
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 2: they won't spend it. No, no, and bar.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 4: It's been like all over ninety eight five this week,
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 4: right like he's this is this I mean Super Bowliday feeling.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 4: But he's like the first guy up off that I
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 4: did a show with Alex last week last Friday, Alex
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 4: and I did four very highly rated hours.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: He must make it easy. I imagine it was a
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: lot of fun.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: We had a good We had a good time. I
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 2: hope he had fun to watch so much that he did.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe he taels even different things. And
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: when they when they're making fun of me, are you
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: any more scheduled shows? No? I told you they wanted
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 2: me for tomorrow, but I did not want to miss
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 2: another Showdea, because we you know, we got to talk.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 2: You know, Fred allowed me to leave an hour early
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 2: last week late you can just coming hot, make it appear.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: So they wanted me in ten to to so that
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 2: would have been missing the whole show. Okay, some going
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 2: up again, the big show competing.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 4: Although sometimes when we do our player interview, you're because
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 4: we do that Wednesday afternoons at four, so we'll be like,
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 4: we're like, hey, that's the other guy we worked with, Paul.
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 2: And they say I've never seen him in my life.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: Was like, that's my dog, Paul.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: All right, Andre knows you, that's your dog. That's the show.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: We'll be back tomorrow, same time tomorrow, New Year's Eve. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 2: so we'll brother luke y' zeve. No show on Thursday, just.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 3: For your viewing pleasures. Yeah, but there will be practice
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 3: for your schedule pleasure. But uh, catch twenty to tomorrow
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 3: with ten Yes, big show. You're going to dissect and
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 3: analyze the Jets game.
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: Two hours of Drake made nicknames. That means picks tomorrow.
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  Speaker 18: That's a lot