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The Bo Callahan Effect: How Attitude Determines Draft Destiny · North Florida Sports Network Podcast

• 0:12
  Speaker 1: all right, welcome back.
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: It's the north florida sports network, your favorite podcast in the world and the draft is over.
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: We're going to react to the draft.
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: Maybe some NBA playoffs if we have enough time.
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: I got NBA college basketball Miami insider Justin on the line.
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: I got Jimmy Reno here.
• 0:40
  Speaker 3: Well, you guys were definitely wrong about.
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: Shador huh.
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: Not one, not two, not three, not four, but five.
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: The fifth round, the fifth round, and not the first quarterback even taken by the team that drafted him.
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: The second quarterback taken.
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, what a drama-filled event that was.
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: What are your?
• 1:01
  Speaker 3: thoughts.
• 1:02
  Speaker 3: Dude Mel Kiper is like hooked up to a goddamn machine right now that's nice you would have thought it was Mel Kiper Jr that was falling to the fifth round with as pissed off as Kiper was.
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: this is disgusting this looks like the dog needs to be taken out of the pasture man, he lost it, he's lost it just start right there with him, he's lost it With the draft.
• 1:26
  Speaker 2: Did he ever have it?
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: What's?
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: he got.
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: He knew people in the draft, he knew general managers and stuff.
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: He still does, but now he's just, he's paid by agents.
• 1:37
  Speaker 2: He doesn't travel, he doesn't do anything.
• 1:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's his own corporation, just really turned into an own, his own little curmudgeon but it definitely hit a nerve with him.
• 1:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, should we're not?
• 1:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, you've been well.
• 1:51
  Speaker 3: I mean jimmy clausen's not in the hall of fame though, so he should be jimmy clausen.
• 1:56
  Speaker 3: I remember him flipping out over trent dilfer not being a top five pick.
• 2:00
  Speaker 3: I mean like kuiper's a moron.
• 2:03
  Speaker 3: He's always been a moron, but I've never seen him so upset over himself being a moron.
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he thought Shador should have gone number one overall dude and he only went in the fifth round because Jimmy Haslam finally figured out hey, there's somebody whose name I recognize Draft him Right, yeah, we're taking him.
• 2:25
  Speaker 1: You know, apparently, that they took Dylan Gabriel before that, and that's from the GM and the coach taking him, and then the owner stepped in and decided to take Shador.
• 2:38
  Speaker 1: So why?
• 2:41
  Speaker 2: Because I was like why would they take two freaking quarterbacks?
• 2:42
  Speaker 2: Well, the rumor is they pissed Haslam off by taking Gabriel higher than they told him they were going to take him, and they did that because they could sense him changing his mind or something was Like just demanding they just take Shador Right something was floated Like they had to sell Gabriel on Haslam in the first.
• 2:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, two has yeah in the first place.
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: So, as Shador's sitting there, as you're getting down into that third round and they're like, okay, man, he's going to change his mind.
• 3:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I believe that, but it definitely seems like it was an owner pick and nobody in that franchise is happy about it.
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: It definitely was.
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: There's no way that a coach is going to waste a draft pick on a quarterback when he just drafted one Not only that, just gave up a fifth-round pick to get Kenny Pickett, and let's get the most.
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they have five quarterbacks now.
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: Let's not only do that.
• 3:35
  Speaker 3: Let's bring in the most.
• 3:36
  Speaker 3: Let's still pay to Sean.
• 3:37
  Speaker 3: Let's bring in the guy with the media circus.
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and let's pay to Sean.
• 3:41
  Speaker 1: What a crap organization.
• 3:43
  Speaker 2: It couldn't have been a better fit if you were looking for the most ironic thing I mean, you look, back at the tweet that Sean had months ago.
• 3:51
  Speaker 2: That's right, you're going to eat those words, those tweets.
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: You might have to pull an Eli Manning.
• 3:56
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but not in the fifth round.
• 3:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was right at the top, the top of the fifth round.
• 4:05
  Speaker 1: That was the mean that was.
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: I mean it dominated the draft, I mean, but I can understand that.
• 4:11
  Speaker 1: I mean you have a oh, absolutely.
• 4:13
  Speaker 3: I mean we all still remember, well, the, uh, the 04 draft.
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, we all still remember that, as nobody dropped as far as this, no no, no, no, nobody's been as as arrogant and as cocky as he, as he put off teams and in the in the meeting process and it's almost like if you do something like that, it's a fraternity word spreads like teams don't even want to mess with you, like that's how he's gonna treat a meeting, yeah, with dayball, that's the one that he gave him work to do.
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's only homework assignment to doball.
• 4:43
  Speaker 1: That's the one that he gave him work to do.
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah there's only.
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: Homework assignment to do and he didn't do it and he called him out on it.
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: He didn't like being called out on it.
• 4:50
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe that's because you've only been coached by your father your whole freaking life.
• 4:55
  Speaker 1: This is bound to happen.
• 4:57
  Speaker 1: If I was a coach, there would be a hesitancy to draft a kid who's been only coached by his hall of fame dad, who's now a major college coach, who might be looking for my job.
• 5:10
  Speaker 1: So you know what.
• 5:12
  Speaker 2: We're taking this guy off the board, which I believe most teams did yeah, there's only so many teams looking to draft a qb in the first round anyway, right but I I believe that teams would have taken a bargain if it was another quarterback, that without all this circus around them that you could get a value for teams.
• 5:30
  Speaker 1: take it even if they don't need a quarterback Right.
• 5:32
  Speaker 1: People take value before and people just were like nah.
• 5:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the.
• 5:36
  Speaker 2: Giants gave him every opportunity to prove to us that you know, just don't blow this.
• 5:41
  Speaker 2: And he blew it Right.
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: I mean a lot of it.
• 5:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah go ahead.
• 5:46
  Speaker 3: He pulled a Bo Callahan yeah, yeah, with $100 in the back of the playbook.
• 5:51
  Speaker 3: Dude, he pulled a Bo Callahan Dude.
• 5:53
  Speaker 3: He doubled down when he was called out on not flipping through the playbook, he did exactly what Bo Callahan did in the movie.
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what was it?
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: Demarcus Russell got a blank tape, blank DVD to go home and watch film.
• 6:06
  Speaker 3: And then he got back and he was like, aren't you?
• 6:09
  Speaker 1: watching.
• 6:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched the whole thing.
• 6:11
  Speaker 1: Well, he'll have a chance, you know, but it's going to be he's going to have to earn it.
• 6:15
  Speaker 1: He's going to have to earn it.
• 6:17
  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody in that family has had to work for something in football since Deion got here out of Fort Myers.
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: So you'll see it, this is something that they need.
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: That was bound to happen.
• 6:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, you've been coached by your dad.
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: This happens to a lot of players, maybe like through middle school, and then maybe a certain smaller percentage high school.
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: Well, when you get to high school, that shit's supposed to stop and then it's supposed to like you never really see it go as far as what we just saw it.
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: I can't remember anybody just following their son to higher ranks, but it was.
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: It has to be somebody with his resume, like dion had so yeah, I'm sure if like peyton manning wanted.
• 6:53
  Speaker 2: Jeff george jr ain't getting it.
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, nobody's yeah well, uh, other than that, that was definitely the big story of the draft.
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: What what's your?
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: You got any winners here?
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: I know it's hard to tell, but I like what the Titans did.
• 7:11
  Speaker 2: You like what the Titans did?
• 7:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 7:13
  Speaker 1: They got Restrepo Even in free agency.
• 7:15
  Speaker 2: I was going to bring that up, dude, you get his, somebody that he had kind of like an otherworldly connection with there on the football field last year bring him in as a free agent.
• 7:25
  Speaker 2: But they also went and got the the receiver from stanford.
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: Um, that made travis hunter look a little silly, oh man years ago um, really nice draft for them.
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: I like what tennessee did well, that's good.
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: That's what you needed out of them.
• 7:39
  Speaker 1: Um is like a no flashflash draft.
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: You need players and positions.
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: I think they're going to get a guy where the floor is much higher than a guy like Cam Ward.
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: Even if he doesn't pan out, I think he's going to get you good play to where you can win some games maybe.
• 7:59
  Speaker 2: It's going to be about football, Football only man.
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: That's what Cam's about Football?
• 8:03
  Speaker 3: Football only man.
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: That's what.
• 8:07
  Speaker 3: Cam's about.
• 8:08
  Speaker 3: He's like the most humble guy you've ever seen at the NFL draft.
• 8:11
  Speaker 3: I mean he's like, yeah, I just want to play football.
• 8:14
  Speaker 3: I love my mom and dad.
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: Right, the complete polar opposite of the top two.
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: Perceived top two QBs were just polar opposites of each other.
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: One kid who was highly touted well, somewhat highly touted in Shador, but everybody knew coming out that he's going to go play Cam Ward was I don't even think he was.
• 8:35
  Speaker 2: Was he a zero star in high school?
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: He was a zero star that ran the wing T all day like Coach Herman Boone on Remember the Titans yeah, it was a draft.
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: But then you start seeing tendencies that I see every year, like certain teams doing what they do and getting good football players.
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: And just like the Baltimore Ravens, yeah, they always pick late in the first round.
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: They always get an established winning player in college who they did it again with Malachi Starks late in the first round.
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: They always get an established winning player in college who's who?
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: They did it again with malachi starks.
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: And then they get another guy on in round two, mike green, who you know probably had talent for first round.
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, without question yeah, but there's emory jones jr o-line and from lsu third round, just a very, very football smart front office.
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: They have savvy, they they draft.
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: You can rely on them.
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: If you're a baltimore raven fan, you just trust it.
• 9:33
  Speaker 3: You know, you don't really question it if you're an old school cleveland browns fan, you got to be so pissed off looking at how good the ravens are run versus the dumpster fire that the Browns are, because that was the Browns organization.
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, and it's run night and day.
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: Man Like the Browns had one of the dumbest drafts and they started off so well.
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, they got Mason Graham Right.
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: You were just saying that you liked the haul they made.
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: You guys just both told me that you'd love the trade for cleveland and I was telling you that I liked it better for jacksonville well I, I I had no idea what cleveland was gonna do, man well, they went and got mason graham.
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: They got carson uh schwesinger, a defender out of ucla linebacker that's, that's that's got the running back junkins out of UCLA linebacker.
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: They got the running back Junkins out of Ohio State.
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but then they drafted another one.
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: They got Harold Fennin Jr tied in.
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: Then they went and got another running back, Dylan Sampson.
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: They got two running backs, two quarterbacks.
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: At a knee position, though you know, look at the Browns.
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: They need Chubbs done, they need a running back, they need a quarterback, so they need to go hit.
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: I don't not as bad as I don't think it was that bad.
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: I like what the Jags did.
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: I like the chance they did.
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: There's a little bit of a sunny young guy down there.
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: A little bit of draft day he made the big trade, but he a nice savvy, uh, under the radar.
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: Day two trade he made to get more picks back in the third round.
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: I like what he did.
• 11:10
  Speaker 3: Actually, when I saw him in a interview either with espn or nfl network as soon as he came on, I immediately thought of draft day.
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, it's the actual guy from draft day.
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: He's like a kid that's watched that movie.
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: He's like watched that movie ever since he was 18 and came out or something, because he's young, he's only 34.
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: They definitely will have.
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: Very inspiring speech that he made at the press conference for Travis Hunter.
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was very.
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: He's going to be the face of that franchise.
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: It looked like it was from a movie.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: I was like dude, this guy looks like he was the actor in Draft Day.
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: So, man, if you're Trevor Lawrence, you better produce.
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: You know who better produce the bust of last year's draft, Caleb Williams.
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: All they did was draft him more offense, dude.
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: If this guy doesn't throw the 5,000 yards, let's go to the Bears.
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: I like what the Bears did, though they have the new coach, ben Johnson, from the Lions.
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: That's what they did to turn the Lions around.
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: You just flood it with offense, man.
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: You flood it with offense, and this is a historically defense-first franchise based on the weather, based on where they're located.
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: But this is a dramatic shift in what they're doing and they're taking chances, bold moves.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: They went out and got where a lot of teams said Warren was the best tight end, maybe at true tight end, but they got a dangerous weapon, another one to go along with the tight end that they already have.
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: They did.
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: I would have liked to see them go offensive line there that high at that pick.
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: There were still some guys along the O-line, but whatever, I like the running back pick.
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: The guy from Rutgers he's my height, about 209 pounds of muscle.
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: No fumbles in his career, entire college career.
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: Well, they got Luther Berg.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: They got tackle.
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: They got Ozzie from Boston College in round two, so they did get Chapalo.
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: Like Justin said, man, there's no excuse this year, and they did go defense later in two and four and five.
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: So they went back.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: They got the fastest linebacker in the country.
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: They got the weapons, the guys that they needed.
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: But yeah, they got.
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: I like the Bears draft.
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give them a B.
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: I don't think it was a bad draft.
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: I do think it was a Ben Johnson coming in and saying all right, we're going to find out by Thanksgiving if Caleb Williams is our guy or not.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: You know who actually had a good draft.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: I actually like what the Cowboys did.
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: I mean I like the guard.
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: They got in the first round, yeah.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: It was a smart pick, he sucks at free agency?
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he does.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: They've been taking some good players.
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: They need a guy to replace Zach Martin man.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: That was a good pick.
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: Booker's probably the best guard in the draft.
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: Maybe it was a little high to take a guard, but whatever.
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: You don't see you take a guard, but whatever.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you don't reach, you take what you need the best player at that position.
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that was a good job by the Cowboys.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: Sometimes they don't usually do that obvious, simple pick, you know.
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: Maybe he let other people do it.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: I was like oh man In the back of my mind.
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: I was like oh, do's going to call Jerry.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: That's coming.
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: Something's coming with that dude.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: It's going to happen?
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: Well, he's going to be a coach and quarterback, right.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: Before I die.
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: Might as well, just do it.
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: I kept thinking the Niners were going to draft Shador.
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: Oh man, it was looking like it there in that fifth round.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: I was sweating.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: I mean it went on so long.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: That was intriguing to see.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people tuned into the draft Like the draft hit a home run in that regard.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: So I kind of think.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: I actually think you know what I actually think there's a chance that they might have taken Shador Sanders had he still been there, had the Browns not taken him.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: Well, he's a good player they ended up taking when you start getting value at a position that could be Right.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: They needed a quarterback.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: They needed a quarterback the guy.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: But I'm telling you right now I know that half the owners in the league were just like screw that Right, we're not getting this guy up in here, I already got to deal with that with my grandkids.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not getting that, but the other half is like well, you know what, at fifth round he already knows he ain't getting shit, so we'll bring him out here and see what he's made of.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what happened.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Well, the owner.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: That's what happened.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: And that makes sense, that that was an owner pick, because you kind of think, oh crap, the GM kind of senses that might happen.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Let's take Gabriel.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: And then the owner rains downhill.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: What a dysfunctional organization, oh, gabriel.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: And then the owner rains downhill.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: What a dysfunctional organization.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, completely.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: It's amazing that some of this stuff happens.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: Just terrible, like the prank call.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Like what are we doing Falcons?
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's on the owner too.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: That's just bad ownership and you can't fire the owner.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: And that's the same thing in the Jets.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Jets have a bad owner too, let's.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: So who had the worst draft?
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: I was just about to ask that question.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: I didn't like what the Packers did.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: I know they're the home team, you know it feels like they got a little bit.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Let's do the receiver.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Now we're going to take the receiver.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Nothing really stuck out for me with them, but again, this is one of those hard positions.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Maybe they reached a little bit for the tackle from NC State.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, that's a talent kid, right, yeah, I think the first two picks.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's so hard I think I like what the Colts did getting Tyler Warren.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: You know that's a good tight end for him.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: That's a perfect home for him, right there.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Then they bring in.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Riley Leonard.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they got Riley Leonard.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that was about.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean they got to get all the QBs that can run but not throw.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Everybody's going to injury.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: You got Richardson, you got wait, Dana Jones is up to I.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: I really like what the jags did.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: I like the yeah I I'm gonna go back on it because of not I like it even more based on what they did the next day.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I think they had a plan.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Well, let's talk, okay.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, look at the picks they ended up getting they.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: They at, they went it up and get they traded their second round pick but they went and got two third round picks this year.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: They got two fourth round picks this year.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: They got two fourth round picks this year, two six round picks and two seven round picks and you got your guy that you wanted, right.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: So that's, I mean, you got more picks than you had rounds and you got the guy you wanted.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Definitely loads better than what Lynch did to get Trey Lance Right.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Let's put it that way.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I like what they did there.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see, I like the running back out of Syracuse.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: They actually got in round seven.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's good.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: He's good, that's a value pick.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I think they just A lot of good running backs went in late rounds.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Dolphins good one dude.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: They got ollie gordon from oklahoma state in like the sixth or the seventh?
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: what do you think?
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: about, let's talk.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the fins man I want to see, I want to know what y'all thought about their draft.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Well, I hate the first round average.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just another miami dolphin draft.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Just another, just like it's going to be eight and nine well, what about?
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: what about yours?
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: What do you think he's got a shot around Round seven pick I like it too.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: You needed somebody else Because the injuries it's better than the backups we've had, right and you can't.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I like the.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: You know you got an upside backup and the kid what is the kid?
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: That they got the free agent.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Zach Wilson.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you got Zach Wilson, zach wilson and now you were, so you got two.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I think yours might be even more of a safe bet as a floor, being a little higher than wilson, but wilson's got the higher ceiling, so I like that, and two is just when he gets hurt.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean he, he's on bar time.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: But I don't.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Jim, you like the Kenneth Grant, I do, I like that pick.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: They went.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I understand that you got.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know you guys need corners.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: They didn't have a third or fourth round pick, so they got the DB out of Florida, Jason Marshall in the fifth round.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: They got a safety from Maryland in the fifth round.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: I thought Maryland would be a better team.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: They actually had a lot of players drafted like six or seven players drafted and going on Loxley ah, he's a horrible coach.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: He can recruit, so he's better than Norville.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't like what the Vikings did either yeah, that was.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were kind of kind of lackluster there, man it's what I actually liked what the patriots did.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: They got george farmer joshua for I'm sorry out of florida state in round four.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be kind of like a naughty guy.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I thought he excelled when he wasn't the main guy right, but he's got the body, he's got the body.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: He's like this is a serviceable vet.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: You I think you can get 10 years out of.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be like a pro bowler, but you need bodies in the D line.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll make a nice little career out of it.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I think that that was a good pick.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: He actually I could see him being like a Siler, the D tackle for the Dolphins, where he's a really good, solid rotational guy, borderline starter, somebody that's going to get a second contract and you're going to eat up blocks but you're not going to get big numbers.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: But you're just happy to be there.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: The team needs you, so you get that second contract underway early.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: I like the pick.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: I don't like the team.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: You're going to eat up blocks.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: What about the half-ton guy from Florida?
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: They got picked.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: They went to the Bucs, signed with the Bucs that was a great pick.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: The Bucs perfect kind of fit.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: They can sit him there with Vita Vea.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Bucs are, oh my God.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Try and do the push-push.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: That's where Try and do the push-push against that.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: He's physical.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I mean they have an identity that they're going to hit you.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay's done a nice job the last few years.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: You know that's four years in a row.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: They won that division.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Good moves.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: They went out and got Baker after Tom Brady, so give it up, they grabbed a wide out too, didn't they?
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, great pick, a good call on that one.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: They got a physical guy, a guy in the first.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, from yeah, it was a buka.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: So there you go right there.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: He's already a pro I mean that that that's, that's perfect.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: So I really like the godwin 2.0.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the bucks.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: The bucks made good decisions um jason lights and solid gm, you know, except for that one year where he drafted fucking guayo oh my god, I bet people still give him shit about that you have to man like other than that, though he's made.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: He's made good picks.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Uh, I like what.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I like what the the titans did, um kind of under the radar.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: They needed to do that.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Uh, they got dyke from florida, wide receiver.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: He's got speed.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Um, they got the wide they got.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: And that guy from stanford you mentioned earlier.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Both those guys are really fast.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, big, physical, fast guys.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: And then you got a guy like Restrepo as a free agent?
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: There's no way he's not making that squad Best free agent pick.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Hands down.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I was already saying waste a late round pick on a guy like that just to make your number one overall pick feel better.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just Right.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: The guy's good, though, too I've seen it year in and year out.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know this would happen though.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the measurables he's going to suck People aren't even going to probably ID him when he comes in.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Like who the fuck is this guy?
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: But he's a guy that's going to make you look stupid.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: He's a Renfro kind of guy, those little fucking guys.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Nobody wants to guard those guys.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he'll be a pro, he'll make the roster.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: He'll have 75 catches for 800 yards and a handful of touchdowns as a rookie.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Cam's just going to go right to him.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: That's his security blanket dude and he's going to get open.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Nobody can cover Restrepo under 15 yards man.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: No, his shuttle time, like his quick twitch and shuttle time is top of the charts.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Man People just freaked out about the 40.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: What's going on with your Niners?
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, they're same old, same old man.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: I wasn't really impressed.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: No, it's what you get with John Lynch.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: The biggest potential is in the late rounds.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Well, they went and got another quarterback in round seven.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if that's Brian Greasy making that pick, then there's hope.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: The defensive tackle they got out of Indiana looks promising.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: You know you take a linebacker coming off an ACL tear in the third round.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I mean what are you doing?
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Shit like that.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they need run help.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I like the drafts by the teams in that division better than I did the Niners.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I like the Rams.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I like what they did.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Well, they're a better front office man.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Everybody in that state has a better front office.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Look at the Chargers, the Rams did what the Rams used to do and they traded back and accumulated picks.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: So I liked what they did.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: The Giants went back and got Jackson Dart late in the first, got Cam Scadaboo in the fourth.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: The owner said address the quarterback position and they did that.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I mean they went and got two free agents drafted one in the first round.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: So they definitely addressed that position.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I like Scadaboo.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: They got D-Tackle in the third and then Abdul Carter in the first.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: So both sides of the ball addressed there for New York.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know about New Orleans Reaching for that one.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that if anybody pissed down their leg, it's probably the Saints.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I mean round two, Louisville quarterback.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think you had to go that high.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: You could have got him in, maybe the fourth round.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Uncle Rico, dude, you could have just picked him up off the street, that guy.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about that draft.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know he had successes last year in college, man, but that's because he's like 25 years old and at this point what's?
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: He played Six years of college football.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Like Brandon Whedon back in the day yeah yeah, it's like one of those guys, always an Oklahoma State quarterback.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: They always have a guy that's 26 and looks really good in their final year but has no business being in the NFL.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: That's what I see.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: When I see Tyler Shuck, I know we all liked the Chargers first-round pick.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Some people didn't, but I saw this guy firsthand.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: He's going to work well, oh, hampton yeah.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Chargers got guys that identify with that strategy.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I like their draft picks.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: They got trey harris, the wide receiver, out of mississippi.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: They got caldwell the d-tank ronde gats in the second.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah him in the fifth round yeah, great pick there.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: So I like I actually really like um what the chargers did in draft draft and the Raiders.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I think the Raiders had a great draft too.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Getting Jenty without having to trade up, they got Jenty.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: They got Beck, the wide receiver, at a TCU Transfer.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: That guy's good.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: And Darian Porter from Iowa State, caleb Rogers, charles Grant.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: So they got O-line, they got corner, they got wide receiver running back.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Uh, deontay thornton jr.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Wide receiver out of tennessee in late in round four.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: D tackle hemingway from south carolina.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I really like what pete carroll and the raiders did.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I mean they just really upgraded the roster just a very un un-Raiders-like draft.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: No reaches.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, they got winners in the office now.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: They got Pete Carroll.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: They got Tom Brady up in there.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: They know what it I mean.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I know, but it's not Thomas Brady.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Just they're going to Just a little bit of what we want to plan.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: You can see, they had a plan and they executed it.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I like the draft the Raiders did and they executed it.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I like the draft the Raiders did.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: They're definitely one of the winners for me.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I like the Jacksonville, las Vegas, trying to think who else had a good draft.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I kind of like what the Chiefs did.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: They needed to address the offensive line and the defensive line.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: They did that.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: I really don't question anything Andrewrew does at this point, right but other, I mean most guys.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Most it's like wait and see.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I I like the lions draft.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: You know they went out and got guys that they needed impact players on the line.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Um williams from ohio state.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: They got ratledge the guard out of georgia in round two that that's such a Dan Campbell pick right there.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: The wide receiver out of Arkansas.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Round three Myles Frazier, lsu guard.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: So they got guys that can contribute right away.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dan Campbell pick.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ratledge Rutledge, whatever his name is.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: That's probably the nastiest lineman in the draft in terms of just being an asshole on the field.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: So, like that's, that's a guy right there richie incognito richie incognito well, um, what would you say here?
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: we got the nba playoffs going on too yeah, we could skip over that heat game last night.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Oh really, we lost like 55 at home yeah.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Lakers, I told you to watch out for the T-Wolves.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: One game away for elimination for LeBron and Luka.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: It ain't ever man.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's coming out, man.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Super star Yep, and they got the right pieces around them, mike.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Conley Rudy Gobert, Old-ass Mike Conley.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Yep Got the guy from the Knicks last year.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Knicks up 3-1.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Knicks up 3-1.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: The Pistons missed call.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know what he just said.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just saying he was Odin's teammate in college.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: It's like Jesus.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Yep, you got that.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Series One Seeds are moving on Clippers Nuggets.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I told you that would go seven.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: That's looking like it will do so.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I told everyone.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: I told the world Warriors Warriors To the world, to the world Warriors Warriors.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Looking like they're going to tandal the.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Rockets Tandal.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: We're going to tandal them.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Celtics.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Rockets too young.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, celtics got one, the Magic got their one game.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: They've been playing hard.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Warriors come up with a big game.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Four win 109-106,.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Take a 3-1 lead in that series.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: T-wolves Warriors looking like in the second round the Bucs it's over for them.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Lillard's out.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe next year too.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Giannis probably ain't coming back.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Bucs it's over.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Pacers we're going to move on in that series.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Knicks looks like I mean, they're up 3-1 in that series, so it looks like they're going to move on in that one Match up with the Celtics, and then you have the Pacers probably going to match up with the Cavs.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: In the West you're looking like the T-Wolves Warriors and then we'll see who wins out of the Nuggets, and the Clippers will probably play the Thunders.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: So we'll watch it, we'll react to it and we'll talk to you next time right here on the North Florida Sports Network.