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Chuck & Buck 11-19 Hour 2: 12th Man News with Gregg Bell, · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Wasn't a good night for the Kracking. They lost in
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Speaker 1: Detroit to the Red Wings four to two. Despite the
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Speaker 1: triumphant return, or at least we thought at the time
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Speaker 1: of Joey decord In goal didn't work out for Joey
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Speaker 1: or the Kraken. Jordan Eberley did score a goal. He
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Speaker 1: now leads the team with eight this year. They'll play
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Speaker 1: again tomorrow in Chicago against the Blackhawks at five o'clock.
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Speaker 1: More on that a little bit later on in the show.
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Speaker 1: But we now get to your frost brewed Coors Light
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Speaker 1: choose chill headlines on a hump day, and we will
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Speaker 1: start with major League Baseball. It was a trade last night,
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Speaker 1: Tyler Ward to Baltimore for Grayson Rodriguez. Of course, the
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Speaker 1: big news yesterday and major League Baseball was Josh Naylor's
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Speaker 1: press conference as he, with a giant smile on his
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Speaker 1: face like the cheshire cat for goodness sake, announced that
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Speaker 1: he is so happy to be returning to Seattle. We'll
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Speaker 1: talk more about that later on in the hour as well.
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Speaker 1: College basketball, last night, you Dubb did win. Took him
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Speaker 1: two overtimes to defeat Southern, but they are now four
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Speaker 1: and one on the year. They won't play again until
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Speaker 1: November twenty seventh. College football Huskies will be at UCLA
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Speaker 1: this Saturday. The Coop's taken on James Madison this Saturday.
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Speaker 1: College football playoff rankings three remained the same. That was easy.
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Speaker 1: Georgia jumped into the top four, But the real intrigue
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Speaker 1: exists pretty much when eight, nine and ten Oklahoma with
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Speaker 1: the win over Alabama jumping to eight, Notre Dame actually
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Speaker 1: falling to nine, and that still head of Alabama who
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Speaker 1: fell several spots from four all the way down to ten.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting to see how that shakes out.
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Speaker 1: We only have two weeks left in the regular season,
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Speaker 1: and of course conference championship games and in the National
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Speaker 1: Football League. The brand new week get started tomorrow in Houston.
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Speaker 1: It'll be the Buffalo Bills taking on the Houston Texans,
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Speaker 1: who will be without C. J. Stroud once again for
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Speaker 1: concussion reasons. On Sunday, the Seahawks back in action, coming
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Speaker 1: off their loss to the Rams. They'll be in Nashville,
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Speaker 1: Tennessee to take on the Titans, and I guarantee you
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Speaker 1: that's a trip. Greg Bell does not mind making joining
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Speaker 1: us now our Seahawks insider.
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Speaker 3: With the Bell tolls.
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Speaker 4: It must be seven o'clock and time for twelfth Man
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Speaker 4: Now with plump Man News, here's Greg Bell with Chuck
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Speaker 4: and Bud.
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Speaker 1: Nashville is one.
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Speaker 5: Of your favorite trips of the year.
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Speaker 3: Right It's probably the best NFL city, New Orleans is good,
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Speaker 3: but it's Nashville's really Yeah, it's pretty good. I was
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Speaker 3: joking in the summer when two summers ago we went
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Speaker 3: for a week because they had the two joint practices
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Speaker 3: and then the preseason game. I was joking with Mike
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Speaker 3: McDonald that this past summer we went from Nashville maybe
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Speaker 3: the best city, to green Bay, Wisconsin. I like green Bay,
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Speaker 3: but it's a completely different deal than Nashville. What's the
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Speaker 3: what more joint practices than that?
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Speaker 1: What's the biggest country act that you've seen in Nashville.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I know that there's acts all over the place,
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Speaker 1: and most of them are not you know, Waylon Jinnings.
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Speaker 1: You know, not some big star Kenny Chesney. But have
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Speaker 1: you seen any any up and comer there that you love?
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Speaker 3: Well, they're all good, and I mean even the guy
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Speaker 3: on the street corner with a can is really good.
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Speaker 3: But I can't nobody I can name that. I ended
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Speaker 3: up saying, oh, I saw him at the bar and Broadway.
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Speaker 3: My goal, and I've yet to do, is go to
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Speaker 3: Ryman Auditorium for a show. I've been in. I've been
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Speaker 3: in there just to tour it and the original Grand
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Speaker 3: Old Opery. It's right downtown. They've moved it since then.
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Speaker 3: The Grand Old Opry is moved out into a bigger place,
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Speaker 3: but the original one. I want to see a show there,
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Speaker 3: and that's my goal one of these times. Do that.
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Speaker 5: Well, you are you going to have time this weekend?
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Speaker 3: No? I don't even Yeah, I mean I'm home. I
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Speaker 3: mean I'm there at like six o'clock on Saturday, so
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Speaker 3: half there's a show going on. That's true.
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Speaker 5: Make it.
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Speaker 1: Check that off the old bucket list right now.
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Speaker 3: I'm not a huge country music buck He's probably more
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Speaker 3: country music, No, Bucky.
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Speaker 5: I like coun like pretty much everything. I really everything that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, all right, well let's dive into it. Seahawks
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Speaker 1: at Titans this Sunday. And of course this is the
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Speaker 1: day where really really kind of roll back our sleeves
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Speaker 1: on the opponent. And this is a team that is
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Speaker 1: one to nine this year. They have a five game
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Speaker 1: losing streak, but they've played probably the most murderous schedule
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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Is there anything in your
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Speaker 1: estimation to worry about, to fear about the Tennessee Titans
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Speaker 1: this Sunday?
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Speaker 3: Well, again, this isn't college football, even high school. Every
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Speaker 3: NFL game has players who were the best of the
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Speaker 3: best in their towns and then their schools. And cam
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Speaker 3: Ward's number one pick, and so yeah, they have to
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Speaker 3: play at the game plan. They help, But I'm not
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Speaker 3: going to sit here and tell you, like Lou Holtz
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Speaker 3: that the one and nine Tennessee Titans are the best
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Speaker 3: team that the Seahawks will play this year. McDonald's the
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Speaker 3: way his approach is all process oriented. It shouldn't be
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Speaker 3: hard for these guys to worry about their own process
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Speaker 3: and worry about the week to week. And I don't
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Speaker 3: anticipate the overlooking factor anything else, but it's the same
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Speaker 3: old deal. If they turn the ball over, it's gonna
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Speaker 3: be a close game, and they have a quarterback who's
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Speaker 3: just coming off a four interception game. I know it's
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Speaker 3: against the Rams, one of the better teams in the league,
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Speaker 3: but if you turn the ball over against anybody, it's
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Speaker 3: a close game. And that's the mitigating factor for any
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Speaker 3: contest between no matter what the records are, and that'll
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Speaker 3: be the key on Sunday. If they don't turn the
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Speaker 3: ball over, this should be a win. And that's no
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Speaker 3: revelation I'm saying something not all. It's the age old thing.
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Speaker 3: Cam Ward is the number one overall pick prize quarterback
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Speaker 3: goes number one in the draft to a crappy team.
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Speaker 3: That's why they're number one in the draft. Go back
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Speaker 3: to John Lway and Peyton Manning and Philip Rivers, on
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Speaker 3: and on. The first years are a rough go and
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Speaker 3: their offense is horrible. Their last and total offense they're last,
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Speaker 3: and rushing their thirtieth, and passing they're thirty second in points.
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Speaker 3: My good friend Teresa Walker at the AP in Nashville
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Speaker 3: used to cover Olympics with her. She wrote this week
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Speaker 3: after they lost sixteen thirteen to the Texans that the
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Speaker 3: problem with the Titans is their inability offensively to play
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Speaker 3: anything close to complimentary football. They're the worst, and in
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Speaker 3: total yards and points they went three and out five
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Speaker 3: times and a ninth ninth consecutive home loss to Houston.
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Speaker 3: So their defense has played well and they get after
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Speaker 3: the quarterback, they pressure a lot, it's just offensively they've
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Speaker 3: been inept and forty one sacks is what cam Ward
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Speaker 3: and the Titans have allowed. Forty one Sam downs won
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Speaker 3: have been sacked ten times. Cam Wodsen was ACKed forty
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Speaker 3: one times.
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Speaker 2: Jay, I mean, you know there's sometimes you get ready
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Speaker 2: for a week and you kind of feel like, Wall,
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Speaker 2: we better go out there and play our a game.
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Speaker 5: Now, I'm with you.
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Speaker 2: Think you ever overlook a team of professional football players
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Speaker 2: that are still fighting for their own job and job security,
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Speaker 2: and yet this is one where you better do a
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Speaker 2: few things right and obviously avoid the catastrophic you know,
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Speaker 2: four turnovers or you know, you know, four interceptions and
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Speaker 2: fumbles and whatnot. But what is the main thing you
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Speaker 2: think that it's if the Seahawks just do this and
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Speaker 2: you obviously, like I said, eliminate a bunch of turnovers
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Speaker 2: that they should be able to handle, they run the ball,
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Speaker 2: or get Sam Darnold back on track, or just play
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Speaker 2: the stout defense against a bad offense. What is the
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Speaker 2: one thing that they do and you're pretty sure that
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Speaker 2: they're going to be able to win this thing fairly easily.
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Speaker 3: Get after the quarterback. Their front four has been doing
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Speaker 3: it all year and they haven't had the blitz much
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Speaker 3: and now they're playing a team that, as I said,
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Speaker 3: has been giving up forty one sacks in ten games
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Speaker 3: for a game over four game I'm pretty quick on
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Speaker 3: math there, so I think that should be the decisive factor,
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Speaker 3: and they should be able to do it without blitzing,
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Speaker 3: which will allow them to cover with seven which should
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Speaker 3: be plenty to give cam Ward problems reading coverages. To me,
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Speaker 3: that would be the simplistic answer to Okay, this should
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Speaker 3: be the easy to pat the victory. But again, don't
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Speaker 3: play from me eind don't give a team that's buried
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Speaker 3: and trying to get out of the season an early lead.
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Speaker 3: And that often happens with turnovers. Donald's got to take
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Speaker 3: care of the ball. We talked about this. He's tied
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Speaker 3: for the league league in turnovers. He and tungo Iola
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Speaker 3: have fourteen each. He has ten interceptions and four loss
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Speaker 3: fumbles in ten games. And it doesn't matter who they're playing.
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Speaker 3: They got to fix that and whatever the reasons are.
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Speaker 3: And we talked about the reasons against the Rams, but
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Speaker 3: it was before the Rams he was turning the ball
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Speaker 3: over against the Cardinals. He was turning the ball over
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Speaker 3: against them, and they turned the ball over against everybody
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Speaker 3: by and large, and you are not going to get
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Speaker 3: away with too many victories and certainly not going to
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Speaker 3: win the division doing that.
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Speaker 1: Greig Bell is with us. I see Owks inside of
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Speaker 1: Jones's most every day at this time, and you can
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Speaker 1: follow him on x at g BEL Seattle, And of
10:04
Speaker 1: course you have all of that Seahawk information day by
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Speaker 1: day coverage available at the Neewstribune dot com spearheaded by
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Speaker 1: Greg Bell. Running Game. I want to talk about it again.
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Speaker 1: Bucky brought up a really good point yesterday, because I
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Speaker 1: think everybody that watches the Seahawks run the football or
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Speaker 1: try to run the football can tell that ken Walker
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Speaker 1: is the more explosive, more talented running back between he
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Speaker 1: and Zach Sharbonay. And certainly we've heard a lot in
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Speaker 1: the last few days about it's finally time to commit
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Speaker 1: back to ken Walker. I mean, the foot injury can't
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Speaker 1: be bothering him that much at this stage in the process.
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Speaker 1: Time to let it rip, let him go. But Bucky
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Speaker 1: brought up the fact that how much better the numbers
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Speaker 1: suggest Zach Sharbonay is in past protection over ken Walker.
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Speaker 1: How huge of a factor is that, and why Sharbonet
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Speaker 1: is carrying so much of the load versus Walker.
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Speaker 3: Well, that does explain why he's in the game. In
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Speaker 3: two minute drill and on third downs and when you go,
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Speaker 3: I mean that often are a lot of plays and
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Speaker 3: that explains a large reason why he has got more
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Speaker 3: snaps overall percentage of snaps forty nine to forty five,
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Speaker 3: even though he's played one fewer game. That is why
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Speaker 3: they've been trusting him in those spots. I would submit
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Speaker 3: it in a normal season. Yeah, that's a big deal.
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Speaker 3: The way that the Seahawks have kept Darnold for getting sacked,
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Speaker 3: the way Kubiak schemes off of play action and rollouts,
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Speaker 3: running away from pressure off the run game has kept
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Speaker 3: him away from sacks. Ten sacks and ten games. I
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Speaker 3: would think it's time to say, Okay, maybe we don't
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Speaker 3: need the extra protector as the running back here. And
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Speaker 3: it's not like Walker doesn't do it. He's not as
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Speaker 3: good and he's just not as stout of a guy.
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Speaker 3: He's more of a shifty, elusive, eelite guy. But he
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Speaker 3: can do it if he has to. He's more of
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Speaker 3: an accid in catching and running after the catch in
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Speaker 3: the pass game. McDonald mentioned that when I asked him
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Speaker 3: about m Walker getting more opportunities, because it's not just
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Speaker 3: in the run game, it's in the pass game. Two
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Speaker 3: he had the twenty three yard catch and run and
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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter drive that he ended up scoring the
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Speaker 3: one yard touchdown run later in the drive. He started
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Speaker 3: another drive earlier in the half with an eighteen yard
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Speaker 3: catch and run. But those are just two yard dump
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Speaker 3: out passes that he turned into twenty yard games. Charonie
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Speaker 3: doesn't do that. So to me, let's hedge a little
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Speaker 3: bit on. Okay, we think our offensive line and scheme
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Speaker 3: can take care of Donald getting sacked. Let's go to
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Speaker 3: the more explosive player in the backfield for options, even
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Speaker 3: as a safety valve guy who can turn a two
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Speaker 3: yard pass into an eighteen yard run. Bottom line is
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Speaker 3: it's time for Kenneth Walker, both for him and for
12:49
Speaker 3: the Seahawks. Seven games left in his contract. Let him go.
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Speaker 3: I get the governing it and limiting him up to
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Speaker 3: this point, I understood it. I tried to explain it
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Speaker 3: to people who'd ask me why they're doing it, but
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Speaker 3: that it's go time to me now for him.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, without a doubt.
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Speaker 2: Does the health of Gray's abel affect how they should
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Speaker 2: try to run the ball or is it one of
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Speaker 2: those whoever you know, if it's Christian Haines or whomever.
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Speaker 2: You're still gonna go out there and try to maybe
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Speaker 2: up the volume for your running backs, especially Ken Walker.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've seen it. They're gonna run no matter what,
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Speaker 3: Bucky and no matter who's in there, no matter what
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Speaker 3: the situation, whether whether they're getting yards or not, Kubiak
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Speaker 3: is gonna run. He runs more than anybody in the league,
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Speaker 3: whether they're getting yards or not. On any given day.
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Speaker 3: If they go into the half with twenty yards rushing
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Speaker 3: on ten carries, thirteen carries, they're still running. In the
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Speaker 3: second half, they're done by two scores late and the
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Speaker 3: rams they were still running. He's gonna do it. He's
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Speaker 3: gonna do it. Whether Christian Haines is in their left
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Speaker 3: guard or not. It's merging to traffic and keep up,
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Speaker 3: and they're not gonna do less of anything just because
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Speaker 3: Haines is playing. Haines is on spot. We've talked about him.
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Speaker 3: I had like three chances to win a starting job.
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Speaker 3: They kept him almost stowed on layaway all season on
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Speaker 3: injured reserve before they finally activated him because they had
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Speaker 3: to because Sindell got hurt last week and now he
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Speaker 3: has to play. They didn't expect him obviously, to be
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Speaker 3: starting when they activate him from IR on Saturday.
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Speaker 1: But Isabel, do we have a fresh update on him
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Speaker 1: as it looking good bad?
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Speaker 3: No? I mean yesterday was completely dark, players and coach.
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Speaker 3: Everything was off day yesterday, so nothing new from Monday
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Speaker 3: of day to day. I'd be pretty surprised if he
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Speaker 3: was even anywhere near the practice field today, some expecting
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Speaker 3: that it did not participate today.
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Speaker 1: Do you at least when you go to Nashville have
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Speaker 1: one of them hot chicken sandwiches?
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Speaker 3: I do? Yeah, I do, yeah for sure, music and
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Speaker 3: hot chicken, little money on it, a little cold beer sometimes. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I tell you it's not a bad place to go.
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Speaker 3: I have to be watching an NFL game. I'll tell
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Speaker 3: you that. A lot of Seahawk fans go because of
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Speaker 3: it too, and the team is not very good in Tennessee,
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Speaker 3: so the home tickets are available and there'll be a
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Speaker 3: lot of Seahawk fans in that stadium on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I want to go. I've never been there.
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Speaker 1: I've never been, And it turns out it's only like
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Speaker 1: a five hour drive from where I grew up. I
15:17
Speaker 1: never knew that until like last year, how close it
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Speaker 1: was to where I grew up, I just assumed.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Tennessee is really long. It's true, it goes. Tennessee
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Speaker 3: goes from like the Atlantic seaboard to the Midwest. That's true.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, But I mean it's as close to me
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Speaker 1: in Illinois where I grew up as Chicago is. And
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Speaker 1: I never realized that. I never put the two and
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Speaker 1: two together. So I am definitely when I go home
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Speaker 1: to see Mom, I'm going to make sure I make
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Speaker 1: a trip out to Nashville.
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Speaker 3: Bucky. Even in Nashville, yeah, oh yeah, played there.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've done a lot of really fun stuff in Nashville.
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Speaker 3: What I was growing up, the Nashville Sounds, the Triple
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Speaker 3: A team, well, the Pirates, one of the Pirates Triple
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Speaker 3: A teams for And the joke in Pittsburgh because the
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Speaker 3: Pirates were so bad was nobody ever wanted to get
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Speaker 3: promoted from the National Sounds to the Pirates. And that's
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Speaker 3: part of the reason why was so bad. That was
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Speaker 3: all when I was really young, the Pirates Triple A
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Speaker 3: team was in Honolulu, and there was that was for sure.
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Speaker 3: Nobody wanted to come get promoted from Honolulu to to Pittsburgh.
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Speaker 1: Two for three today Kevin, Man, you better cool down,
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Speaker 1: otherwise you better risk getting called up.
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Speaker 3: All right, man, there was a there was a PCL team.
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Speaker 3: Did you know that, Buck, It was a PCL team
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Speaker 3: in Honolulu. Yeah. It cost a hell of a lot
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Speaker 3: of money for teams to travel to But yeah, the Pirate.
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Speaker 3: That was the Pirates triple A team in the seventies.
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Speaker 5: Yeah. Mom, the upside of getting demoted.
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Speaker 1: All right, Uh well, thank you, Sarah. We'll talk to
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Speaker 1: you tomorrow, rounds Able tomorrow.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Happy Wednesday.
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Speaker 1: the hot stove season has started, and normally, I mean
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Speaker 1: it feels like to me it gets.
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Speaker 5: Later and later and later and later.
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Speaker 1: This process, and I think Scott Boris is sort of
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Speaker 1: the biggest reason for that. He'll take his free agents
18:46
Speaker 1: all the way to the middle of spring training and
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Speaker 1: he unless he gets the right deal, he's just not
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Speaker 1: gonna let them sign. Thank goodness, cal Raley moved away
18:55
Speaker 1: from that guy. Otherwise I'm not sure we would have
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Speaker 1: ever been able to re signed cal Raley. But certainly
19:04
Speaker 1: it is a process that has gotten later. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we end up getting more moves after the new year
19:10
Speaker 1: than before. It used to be winter meetings you'd have
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Speaker 1: several you'd have a flurry of moves. It's been a
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Speaker 1: while since we've had a flurry of moves at the
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Speaker 1: winter meetings, which you're coming up in the beginning of December.
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Speaker 1: Maybe Josh Naylor's changed that, and maybe Mariner fans are
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Speaker 1: the reason for that, for him to feel such love here.
19:30
Speaker 1: As he expressed yesterday in this press conference, it almost
19:35
Speaker 1: felt like what we've talked about, like if you give
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Speaker 1: me a fair offer, I want to be there. And
19:42
Speaker 1: the ownership presented him a fair offer and Josh Naylor
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Speaker 1: pretty much sprinted to the contract to sign it. That's
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Speaker 1: a great sign all around, and I think a credit
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Speaker 1: certainly to Mariner fans and the love that they showed
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Speaker 1: this guy the entire end of the season.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's each individual, you know, player is going to
20:03
Speaker 2: be different about what's important to them when they you
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Speaker 2: finally reach this, you know, I mean for a lot
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Speaker 2: of folks. You know, I'm not sure how much everybody
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Speaker 2: understands the grind that it takes to get to where
20:13
Speaker 2: Josh Naylor got. I mean the you know, he was
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Speaker 2: a first rounder and so he had a nice signing
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Speaker 2: bonus and he was that The minor leagues are not
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Speaker 2: what they used to be as far as making nothing.
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Speaker 2: I mean literally not enough to be able to have
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Speaker 2: your own apartment, for crying out loud to me, I
20:28
Speaker 2: lived in two bedroom apartments with four other guys majority
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Speaker 2: of my minor league career because that's the only way
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Speaker 2: you could afford it, or you'd have to cut out
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Speaker 2: like beer, which that wasn't gonna happen, no, no, no chance.
20:41
Speaker 2: And so you had to, you know, put your priorities
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Speaker 2: in order. And yet it's still then you get to
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Speaker 2: the big leagues and you know, you get three years
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Speaker 2: before at the minimum, which is good money. I'm not
20:52
Speaker 2: gonna say nowadays seven hundred thousand dollars. It was like
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Speaker 2: four hundred when I played, but it was you make
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Speaker 2: good money.
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Speaker 5: And yet it's is.
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Speaker 2: Three years before you become arbitration osable, and then three
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Speaker 2: more before you become where Josh Naylor finally got to.
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Speaker 2: And so agents, typically Boris being the worst of them,
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Speaker 2: will be like, this is your chance, man, you hold out.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna play every single penny against the other people
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Speaker 2: that are interested in your services. And it might take
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Speaker 2: a while, it's gonna get uncomfortable, but you just stick
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Speaker 2: with me on this. And then there's other people that
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Speaker 2: just flat out or like, I know what I'm worth,
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Speaker 2: want I want to go where I want to go,
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Speaker 2: and I hope they know what I'm worth. And if
21:31
Speaker 2: those two things just as simple as that he came here,
21:35
Speaker 2: He's been in Cleveland, he's been in Arizona, and now
21:38
Speaker 2: he's been in Seattle. I'm sure that he liked players
21:41
Speaker 2: on all the teams. I'm sure he liked his coaches
21:43
Speaker 2: or most of the coaches, even the front office to
21:45
Speaker 2: some degree liked and maybe didn't like to some degree.
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Speaker 2: Without knowing any of that, all I do know is
21:51
Speaker 2: that he came here when all of a sudden, there's
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Speaker 2: this Oh my gosh, how do I move my family?
21:55
Speaker 2: I have a pregnant wife back in Arizona. The organization said, well,
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Speaker 2: we do. What can we take care of for you?
22:02
Speaker 2: So they made it as little of a headache as possible.
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Speaker 2: Then the team accepted him, the city embraced him. He
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Speaker 2: enjoys playing here. Apparently T Mobile Park isn't a bad
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Speaker 2: hitters park for him, and so he hit well, here
22:15
Speaker 2: he got to go on this ride. There is something about,
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Speaker 2: and we've talked about it, the idea of being in
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Speaker 2: a situation where you've never made it to the World Series.
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Speaker 2: If you can be part of that team that does
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Speaker 2: get to one and win one, this is extra special
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Speaker 2: versus oh you want another one for the Dodgers whooped
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Speaker 2: to do so. To me, it's just all of that
22:35
Speaker 2: stuff included, and then the type of person that he is,
22:38
Speaker 2: it just all kind of went down to where they
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Speaker 2: came to him with a good offer, and he said, yep,
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Speaker 2: this is where I want to be and that's what
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Speaker 2: I think I'm worth.
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Speaker 5: I'm down with it.
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Speaker 1: But I think it starts with the type of person
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Speaker 1: that he is. Because as much as you'd think that
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Speaker 1: major League Baseball players would reach free agency and they
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Speaker 1: would prioritize I'm going to be rich no matter what.
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Speaker 1: If you're a Josh Naylor. Do I have to be
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Speaker 1: the richest. Do I have to have the absolute most money?
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Speaker 1: Or do I want to be in a city I like,
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Speaker 1: with a team that I like and really just settled
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Speaker 1: down my roots. They usually choose the money. I mean,
23:13
Speaker 1: that's usually the case. So I didn't know. I don't
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Speaker 1: know Josh Naylor well enough. I thought he was the
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Speaker 1: type of guy that might buck that trend.
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Speaker 5: Sorry to use that.
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Speaker 1: And chuck it out. Yeah you don't. Yeah, you don't
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Speaker 1: know until it gets chucked out on paper. But I'm
23:31
Speaker 1: glad that he's one of those because, believe me, he
23:34
Speaker 1: wants to play this process out. He's got Scott Boris
23:37
Speaker 1: as an agent. He's not signing until mid February early March,
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Speaker 1: and it's probably with the Red Sox, and it's probably
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Speaker 1: for twenty two million a year instead of eighteen and
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Speaker 1: a half. And if that would have been his priority,
23:49
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be a Mariner. So I'm glad he's one
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Speaker 1: of those type of guys.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I am too, and just watching him yesterday and
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Speaker 6: listening to him yesterday. He seemed so genuinely happy, the
23:58
Speaker 6: fact that he said, I love the fans and I
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Speaker 6: hope they love me, Like that's pretty obvious. They all
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Speaker 1: the Sport of college Football. So back to back college
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Speaker 1: football segments, because I want to talk about something that
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Speaker 1: I mean, I've talked frequently about how I didn't see
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Speaker 1: this college football coaching cycle turning into this because of
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Speaker 1: the new era that we are in. It did catch
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Speaker 1: me by surprise. And here's where I'm really worried. This
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Speaker 1: is the area that I'm really worried. There was a
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Speaker 1: Desmond Howard video yesterday where he said Steve Sarkeesian's not
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Speaker 1: happy in Texas, and Texas isn't happy with Steve Sarkeesian
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Speaker 1: and he they're probably going to have a mutual parting
27:44
Speaker 1: of the ways at the end of the year. There
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Speaker 1: are coaches all over college football that would leave their
27:54
Speaker 1: jobs tomorrow to get the Texas job, that would leave
27:58
Speaker 1: no matter how many promises they made on campus. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's supposed to be as great a job as there
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Speaker 1: is in college football. So if the guy that has
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Speaker 1: the job isn't even happy with it. Then where are
28:12
Speaker 1: we with college football? I thought, maybe, well, maybe it's
28:16
Speaker 1: not about blue bloods anymore. Maybe it's about, you know,
28:20
Speaker 1: just establishing a program. Kurt Signetti's staying in Indiana. He
28:24
Speaker 1: could have possibly had the Texas job if he knew
28:27
Speaker 1: Steve Sarkisian wasn't happy. That's how hot his name is
28:30
Speaker 1: right now. But maybe we're in a new era of
28:35
Speaker 1: where you can build a powerhouse anywhere as long as
28:39
Speaker 1: you've got the right program. If you've got the right
28:41
Speaker 1: nil money's coming in. So maybe we're done with just
28:45
Speaker 1: having those dominant programs out there. It's not like Kaylin
28:48
Speaker 1: Debor went to Alabama and is having more success than
28:51
Speaker 1: he had here at Washington, right, So maybe that's what's
28:54
Speaker 1: entered in. People are just looking. And then we've got
28:57
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin, who couldn't have a better situation at Old miss.
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Speaker 1: They love him. He's getting nil money, probably more than
29:05
Speaker 1: he'll get at Florida because those boosters are maniacs in Oxford, Mississippi.
29:11
Speaker 1: Now that the rules don't exist anymore, all they got it.
29:15
Speaker 1: All I gotta do is give you some of my billions.
29:18
Speaker 5: Oh you got it.
29:19
Speaker 1: But it's stay here at ole, miss I had a
29:21
Speaker 1: million of my wallet. Yeah, exactly. Here you go go
29:23
Speaker 1: get yourself a linebacker. Will you take it in thousands?
29:26
Speaker 3: Yeah? So?
29:27
Speaker 1: I mean, so here's Lane Kivin, who's in a great situation,
29:30
Speaker 1: building a great program. They're in the national conversation every year.
29:33
Speaker 1: Looks like he will make the tournament this year, and
29:36
Speaker 1: he wants to leave for one of the better programs
29:39
Speaker 1: out there. So, I don't know, if you're not happy
29:42
Speaker 1: at Texas and you're not happy being the king of Oxford,
29:46
Speaker 1: Mississippi and your program is rising a little bit every
29:50
Speaker 1: single year, can any of these guys be happy anywhere?
29:54
Speaker 1: I mean, where what are we doing in college football?
29:57
Speaker 1: I mean, if the coaches aren't the adults in the room,
30:00
Speaker 1: what kind of example are you giving to the players?
30:03
Speaker 1: It just feels to me like there's not a person
30:06
Speaker 1: in college football that isn't looking where it's slightly better,
30:10
Speaker 1: where I can make fourteen more dollars, And that, to me,
30:14
Speaker 1: is a terrible spot to be in.
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Speaker 5: It's not a good spot to be in. I mean,
30:18
Speaker 5: I'll just say this.
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Speaker 2: I think the Signetti types that's it's kind of like
30:21
Speaker 2: what we were talking about with Josh Naylor's. That's an
30:24
Speaker 2: individual that's just okay with being the stud of a
30:27
Speaker 2: small town, you know. Program I shouldn't say small town
30:31
Speaker 2: because it's not like it's that small small, but you
30:33
Speaker 2: know what I mean, it's not the big name, and
30:35
Speaker 2: yet who cares Signeta just looks like the type that's like, Yeah,
30:39
Speaker 2: I like the fact that we're known for hoops forever
30:42
Speaker 2: and right now we're a feared team in college football,
30:45
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna just kind of keep us relevant for
30:47
Speaker 2: a long time because with the twelve team tournament, now
30:50
Speaker 2: you can do that and all of a sudden you
30:53
Speaker 2: can build a fence around a big chunk of the Midwest,
30:57
Speaker 2: at least Indiana. You can say, we're gonna get a
30:59
Speaker 2: bunch of people that are gonna want to come here for
31:01
Speaker 2: the next generation. Anyways, as long as you're doing this
31:04
Speaker 2: bunch of losers, Yeah, is that what it is?
31:06
Speaker 5: Okay?
31:07
Speaker 2: And yet I think that you're always going to have
31:11
Speaker 2: as tough as recruiting is now, it's tough and easy.
31:15
Speaker 2: It's tough because there's always somebody else trying to poach
31:18
Speaker 2: your guys. Because transferring all the time is legit and legal,
31:22
Speaker 2: and so to some degree, it's is it easier to
31:25
Speaker 2: get folks to come to Ole Miss or to Florida?
31:29
Speaker 2: Is it better for Kaylen de boor to get people
31:31
Speaker 2: to come to you know, Seattle or to play at Alabama?
31:35
Speaker 2: Like it's the is there little perks that you think
31:37
Speaker 2: make your job, that make you capable of being even
31:41
Speaker 2: better at your job? I think that you're going to
31:44
Speaker 2: have some people are going to do that, and then
31:45
Speaker 2: if the money on top of that, or if the
31:47
Speaker 2: money first is the priority, then you're going to be
31:50
Speaker 2: able to woo people away with that as well.
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Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, Kaylen de Bor's programs in
31:55
Speaker 1: this two years at Alabama is no better than his
31:57
Speaker 1: last two years here at Washington, except that you're at
32:01
Speaker 1: a bigger program. Yeah, you're at a bigger, well known program.
32:04
Speaker 1: But also we hear about how Alabama just doesn't have
32:07
Speaker 1: the rich alums and the rich boosters that other people have.
32:11
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I guess Florida. Yeah, Florida
32:14
Speaker 1: has a better history, but I'm not sure Florida is
32:17
Speaker 1: a better job than Ole Miss right now now that
32:20
Speaker 1: we have nil I mean that movie Blindside, Michael Orr
32:24
Speaker 1: has said there's really nothing true about it other than
32:28
Speaker 1: the fact that I lived with these folks. Yeah, the
32:31
Speaker 1: only thing that really was true that is undisputably true
32:34
Speaker 1: is that those people are crazy. And the people that
32:37
Speaker 1: have millions of dollars and are tired of being in
32:39
Speaker 1: Alabama shadows.
32:41
Speaker 5: Now that we have.
32:41
Speaker 1: NIL, they're like, well, we'll spend a fortune on players.
32:47
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you're going to get more NIL money
32:49
Speaker 1: at Florida than what you're getting at Ole Miss. You've
32:53
Speaker 1: got better local high school football talent, but it doesn't
32:57
Speaker 1: seem to me like Florida kids are having any trouble
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Speaker 1: going anywhere else in the country as long as there's
33:03
Speaker 1: a bigger paycheck for them. But if the coaches aren't
33:06
Speaker 1: operating any differently than the players that they've been complaining
33:10
Speaker 1: about since NIL began, then where is that going to
33:13
Speaker 1: leave us? Because I just don't think it's healthy for
33:16
Speaker 1: college football to have some of its biggest names sitting
33:20
Speaker 1: here on the verge of leaving the next time the
33:24
Speaker 1: wind blows and a program that may or may not
33:27
Speaker 1: be better than the program that they're at is knocking
33:30
Speaker 1: on their door and they think the grass is slightly greener.
33:33
Speaker 1: I mean the grass is plenty green at all at Oxford,
33:36
Speaker 1: plenty green in Austin, but maybe it's slightly greener there.
33:41
Speaker 1: I mean, where are we if the adults in the
33:43
Speaker 1: room have the same greed and wish washiness as the
33:48
Speaker 1: players in the in the locker room. Yeah, it's a
33:51
Speaker 1: great question. I have no idea. Sad. Yeah, you're not
33:56
Speaker 1: happy at Texas. Where can you be happy? Then you're
33:58
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