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Serial Killer Documentary - Jeffrey Dahmer： The Blood Curling Story Of The Milwaukee Cannibal · The Evolution of Evil - True Crime Stories

• 0:06
  Speaker 1: Shortly before midnight on July 22, 1991, two Milwaukee police
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: officers were flagged down in their patrol car by a
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  Speaker 1: man with a pair of handcuffs dangling from one wrist.
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  Speaker 1: The police had no idea that this bizarre encounter would
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: lead to the arrest of one of the most prolific
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: serial killers in U.S.
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  Speaker 2: History.
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  Speaker 3: That night, people were afraid. People were whispering under their breaths,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it was the devil.
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  Speaker 1: The man had escaped from a small one-bedroom apartment on
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  Speaker 1: North 25th Street. When the officers went to investigate, they
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  Speaker 1: found themselves in a living nightmare.
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  Speaker 4: They saw the body parts and then one of the
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  Speaker 4: officers said he heard a scream. Then he realized later
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  Speaker 4: he was the one who screamed when he saw the body.
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  Speaker 1: Without detection, 31-year-old Jeffrey Dahmer had killed 17 young men
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  Speaker 1: across a 13-year period.
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  Speaker 5: He hasn't got the same level of repulsion and shock
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  Speaker 5: at dead bodies or mutilated bodies that most of us have.
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  Speaker 6: It was just another aspect of his life.
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dahmer had etched his name in history as one
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  Speaker 1: of the world's most evil killers. The name Jeffrey Dahmer
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  Speaker 1: has become synonymous with evil. Between 1978 and 1991, he
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  Speaker 1: killed 17 young men and boys by drugging them before
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  Speaker 1: strangling them to death. As the revelations of the murders
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  Speaker 1: came to light, it was the behaviour of Dahmer once
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  Speaker 1: he'd killed his victims that really stunned the world, with
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  Speaker 1: stories of necrophilia and cannibalism. The first journalist to arrive
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  Speaker 1: at the crime scene was Annie Schwartz.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't a gory crime scene. It was really quite antiseptic.
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  Speaker 3: It was a very simple one-bedroom with a kitchen and
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  Speaker 3: a living room, and it looked like a regular single
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  Speaker 3: guy lived there. There were some dishes in the sink,
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  Speaker 3: but by and large, this was not some chamber of
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  Speaker 3: horrors like people will describe it. Certainly not at first look.
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  Speaker 3: Once detectives and officers started searching further, that's when they
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  Speaker 3: found out the actual horror was in that apartment.
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  Speaker 1: The story of this macabre killer begins 30 years before
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  Speaker 1: his arrest. Jeffrey Dahmer was born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin on
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  Speaker 1: May the 21st, 1960. The family moved to Iowa before
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  Speaker 1: settling in Ohio in 1966.
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  Speaker 7: He lived with his parents. who were constantly, constantly, as
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  Speaker 7: he put it, at each other's throats. You know, his
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  Speaker 7: mother appeared to have been, you know, this raging bundle
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  Speaker 7: of neurotic behavior. The parents were constantly fighting and screaming. And,
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  Speaker 7: you know, Dahmer himself evidently, throughout much of his early life,
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  Speaker 7: was completely, completely ignored by both of them.
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  Speaker 8: They were so caught up in their own psychological turmoil.
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  Speaker 5: Jeffrey Dahmer never really made close social links with any
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  Speaker 5: of his peers.
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  Speaker 6: He was a little bit odd.
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  Speaker 5: And if you speak to his school friends at the time,
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  Speaker 5: he didn't seem to have a lot of empathy for
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  Speaker 5: other children. So when children would fall over in the
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  Speaker 5: playground or get hurt or cry, he didn't appear to
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  Speaker 5: be affected by that and would sometimes laugh at them.
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  Speaker 5: So something wasn't quite right with a young Jeffrey Dahmer.
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  Speaker 1: Feeling ostracized by his family and classmates, Dahmer spent a
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  Speaker 1: lot of time playing alone in the woods surrounding his
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  Speaker 1: Ohio home.
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  Speaker 5: Well, he had a really morbid curiosity with death from
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  Speaker 5: quite a young age, and this started with a fairly
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  Speaker 5: innocent insect collection, and he would keep the bodies of
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  Speaker 5: insects inside jars full of chemicals. This soon progressed. He
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  Speaker 5: would go fishing. And he was interested in what the
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  Speaker 5: fish looked like on the inside. So he would chop
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  Speaker 5: up the fish to have a look at this.
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  Speaker 3: Dahmer took his fish and cut it open. He was
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  Speaker 3: fascinated with the inside of the fish. And one of
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  Speaker 3: his little friends asked him, Jeffrey, why do you, what
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  Speaker 3: are you doing? And he said, just look at it.
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  Speaker 7: You know, and this, you know, escalates, you know, to
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  Speaker 7: the point that it's, you know, he's apparently killing stray
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  Speaker 7: dogs and you know, decapitating them.
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  Speaker 5: One of the young boys in the neighborhood was walking
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  Speaker 5: in the woods behind Dharma's house when Dharma was a teenager,
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  Speaker 5: and he came across the body of a dead dog,
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  Speaker 5: and it was mutilated, and it was nailed to a tree.
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  Speaker 7: So there's some early interest in animal anatomy that blossoms
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  Speaker 7: into this very, very dark obsession and then somehow becomes
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  Speaker 7: tangled up with his own sexuality.
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  Speaker 1: Darma continued to struggle to fit in at high school
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  Speaker 1: and turn to alcohol from a young age.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Darma started drinking when he was at school, and
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  Speaker 5: one of his former classmates remembered that he used to
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  Speaker 5: come in with a cup, and he didn't have tea
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  Speaker 5: or coffee in this cup. He had Scotch whiskey in it.
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  Speaker 5: So this was quite a disturbing behavior for a teenager.
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  Speaker 3: There's a thought that, in hindsight, you ask why more
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  Speaker 3: people didn't try to intervene. You've got a kid coming
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  Speaker 3: drunk to school. But back in the 70s, when Dahmer's
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  Speaker 3: coming to school intoxicated, nobody thinks, gee, we better make
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  Speaker 3: sure we take care of this, because what if he
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  Speaker 3: turns out to be a serial killer?
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  Speaker 1: In the summer of 1978, Dahmer's parents finally divorced.
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  Speaker 5: The breakdown of Jeffrey Dahmer's parents' marriage was quite a
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  Speaker 5: tough time for him. His parents were at each other's throats.
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  Speaker 5: It was not an amicable divorce at all, and And
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  Speaker 5: each of them was forcing him to side with them.
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  Speaker 5: So he felt very much torn between his parents. So
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  Speaker 5: this was a real source of conflict for him. And
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  Speaker 5: I think at this time, children often who have these
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  Speaker 5: experiences will retreat into themselves. They will preoccupy themselves with
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  Speaker 5: things that they're interested in and will lose themselves in
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  Speaker 5: their own fantasy world. And I think that's very much
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  Speaker 5: what happened with Dharma.
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  Speaker 1: Having just recently graduated from high school, Dahmer soon had
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  Speaker 1: no one around him at all.
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  Speaker 5: Well, in 1978, Jeffrey Dahmer was 18. His mother had
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  Speaker 5: gone away with his younger brother and his father was
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  Speaker 5: living in a hotel. So he's alone and he's ruminating
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  Speaker 5: and he's fantasizing and things are going to take a
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  Speaker 5: turn for the worse quite soon after this.
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  Speaker 1: On June the 18th, 1978, Dahmer's fantasy world collided with
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  Speaker 1: the real one when he pulled over to pick up
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  Speaker 1: a 19-year-old hitchhiker called Stephen Hicks.
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  Speaker 7: Dahmer picked him up and invited him back to his
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  Speaker 7: house to have some drinks and I guess maybe smoke
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  Speaker 7: some dope.
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  Speaker 3: They were in the basement of his parents' home. They
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  Speaker 3: had had sex and then Stephen Hicks wanted to leave.
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  Speaker 3: And that was when Dahmer just wanted so badly to
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  Speaker 3: have company. Sounds like such a textbook psychological thing, you know,
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  Speaker 3: abandonment syndrome, but this was at the heart of what
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  Speaker 3: made him so needy for company.
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  Speaker 7: And then when the guy said he wanted to leave,
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  Speaker 7: Dahmer clubbed him on the back of the head with
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  Speaker 7: a barbell and then strangled him, then ultimately disposed of
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  Speaker 7: the body, removed all the flesh, and eventually dissolved it
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  Speaker 7: in acid.
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  Speaker 8: And pulverized the bones with a sledgehammer.
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  Speaker 5: This is a really, really brutal crime, and he disposes
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  Speaker 5: of the body parts in the woods behind his house,
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  Speaker 5: and that's a really symbolic place for Jeffrey Dahmer, because
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  Speaker 5: this is a place where he's dismembered animals before, where
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  Speaker 5: he's displayed mutilated dogs on tree trunks. So we're seeing
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  Speaker 5: that this place is special to him.
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  Speaker 1: Dahmer had experienced taking the life of another human for
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  Speaker 1: the first time.
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  Speaker 5: I think that the first murder is a real milestone
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  Speaker 5: for Jeffrey Dahmer. So he knows now that he's capable
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  Speaker 5: of this. He knows that he's capable of taking someone
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  Speaker 5: else's life. So it's not just a fantasy anymore. It's
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  Speaker 5: now a reality. He's gone from harming animals to harming people,
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  Speaker 5: and he's not going to stop.
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  Speaker 4: He's not desperate, but he becomes accustomed to it.
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  Speaker 5: He becomes ready to kill again and just kill and
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  Speaker 5: kill and kill and kill until he gets caught.
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  Speaker 1: But it wasn't until 13 years later in August 1991
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  Speaker 1: that Dahmer was finally apprehended after one of his potential
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  Speaker 1: victims escaped from his Milwaukee apartment. Once in custody, Dahmer
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  Speaker 1: confessed to killing 17 young men and boys. The man
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  Speaker 1: whose job it was to prosecute the relentless killer was
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  Speaker 1: Milwaukee District Attorney Mike McCann.
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  Speaker 4: The word evil doesn't come up very often. It just doesn't. Guilty,
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  Speaker 4: not guilty.
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  Speaker 2: Did he do it?
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  Speaker 4: Didn't he do it?
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  Speaker 1: Culpability, yes.
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  Speaker 4: But not often evil, because evil is almost a moral issue.
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  Speaker 4: The word came up with Dahmer. You couldn't help see
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  Speaker 4: what he did. Innocent people, strangers, to take for a
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  Speaker 4: couple of hours of sex, to take a human being's life.
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  Speaker 4: That's so evil. So evil.
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  Speaker 1: Dahmer's case made headlines across the world after the details
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  Speaker 1: of his grisly confession were leaked.
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  Speaker 4: A New York Times reporter compromised the integrity of a
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  Speaker 4: worker at our building and got a copy of the confession.
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  Speaker 4: It was a detailed 38-page confession, so the details of
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  Speaker 4: the gory things he had done again captured people's interest.
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  Speaker 4: So that's how it rapidly became a matter.
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  Speaker 1: Of The confession outlined the life of a deranged serial killer.
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  Speaker 1: After murdering Stephen Hicks and desecrating his body in 1978,
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  Speaker 1: Dahmer didn't kill again for nine years. After dropping out
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  Speaker 1: of Ohio State University after just one semester, he was
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  Speaker 1: spending most of his days drinking until his father urged
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  Speaker 1: him to enlist in the U.S.
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  Speaker 9: Army.
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  Speaker 5: The alcohol continued as a theme when he joined the
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  Speaker 5: army and he moved to Germany. One of his former
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  Speaker 5: colleagues remembers him just sitting in his room drinking gin
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  Speaker 5: all day long, not even leaving his room to eat.
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  Speaker 5: So there was a real dependency on alcohol.
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  Speaker 1: In 1981, 21-year-old Dahmer was discharged from the army after
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  Speaker 1: his drinking rendered him incapable of serving. After spending a
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  Speaker 1: month sleeping rough on the beaches of Florida, he returned
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  Speaker 1: to Ohio. But his father had had enough and shipped
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  Speaker 1: him off to start a new life in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
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  Speaker 7: He was sent to live with his grandmother, who was
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  Speaker 7: the one adult apparently he had, you know, something approaching,
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  Speaker 7: you know, a normal affection for.
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  Speaker 8: I was there. He really embarked on this career of horror.
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  Speaker 1: By 1986, Dahmer had been arrested a couple of times
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  Speaker 1: for exposing himself in public once in front of a
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  Speaker 1: group of children. The hopeless alcoholic had managed to find
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  Speaker 1: work at a local chocolate factory in Milwaukee and was
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  Speaker 1: frequenting gay bars and bathhouses.
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  Speaker 5: I think being homosexual affected Dahmer in two ways. Firstly,
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  Speaker 5: it was a source of shame for him because it
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  Speaker 5: was quite a stigmatized social identity at the time. but
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  Speaker 5: also it enabled him an opportunity when it came to
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  Speaker 5: his killing behavior. So being homosexual at this time, it
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  Speaker 5: was something that happened in the shadows. It was something
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  Speaker 5: that happened underground, and this was the ideal place for
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  Speaker 5: someone like him to go hunting.
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  Speaker 1: It was this exposure to the gay scene that seemed
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  Speaker 1: to reawaken the dark sexual urges inside of him. And
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  Speaker 1: by September 1987, over nine years since the murder of
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  Speaker 1: Stephen Hicks, Jeffrey Dahmer was ready to kill again.
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  Speaker 3: His idea was to drug people and keep them with
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  Speaker 3: him so that they wouldn't answer back to him, they
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't argue with him, they wouldn't fight him. They would
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  Speaker 3: stay with him. That's what he wanted. He wanted companionship.
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  Speaker 3: So he would go to the bars on Milwaukee's near
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  Speaker 3: south side, and he would have conversations with people in
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  Speaker 3: these bars. And when he was talking to these people,
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  Speaker 3: these prospective victims, he would say, so what was it
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  Speaker 3: like when you came out? How was your family about it?
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  Speaker 3: So if your response was, oh, my family has been great,
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  Speaker 3: they're so supportive, I'm very close to my parents, that
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  Speaker 3: person wasn't going to be a victim. But if the
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  Speaker 3: person answered, my parents aren't speaking to me anymore, I'm
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  Speaker 3: estranged from my family. I'm kind of on my own now.
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  Speaker 3: That was the perfect victim for Jeffrey Dahmer because he
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  Speaker 3: wanted to choose people who wouldn't be missed.
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  Speaker 1: Between September 1987 and March 1988, Dahmer killed three men,
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  Speaker 1: the youngest a 14-year-old boy who he paid to pose
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  Speaker 1: for nude photographs before drugging and strangling him to death.
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  Speaker 1: He would dissolve the bodies in acid.
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  Speaker 4: He cleverly developed a program to destroy the bodies, to
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  Speaker 4: get rid of the bodies, left no evidence. This was
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  Speaker 4: a very clever killer, very clever killer.
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  Speaker 2: Dharma would dissolve his victims, presumably to make it easier
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  Speaker 2: to dispose of them. Dissolving tissue and chemicals can certainly
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  Speaker 2: interfere with identifying it as human tissue. It'll interfere with DNA.
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  Speaker 2: You're really left predominantly with skeletal remains to try and
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  Speaker 2: identify features such as age, sex, race.
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  Speaker 1: Dahmer murdered two of the victims at his grandmother's house
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  Speaker 1: where he was living.
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  Speaker 7: His grandmother became aware that he was bringing these young
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  Speaker 7: guys back to her house. I mean, she fought for
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  Speaker 7: gay sex. Obviously, she had no inkling of the atrocities
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  Speaker 7: he was committing on their bodies, although she was complaining
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  Speaker 7: also about a foul odor that she noticed.
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  Speaker 1: On September 25th, 1988, Dahmer moved into his own apartment
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  Speaker 1: on North 25th Street in Milwaukee and didn't wait long
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  Speaker 1: before attacking again. The very next day, September 26th, he
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  Speaker 1: enticed a 13-year-old boy back to his home and drugged him.
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  Speaker 2: One of the methods that Dahmer used to subdue his
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  Speaker 2: victims was to use benzodiazepines, the same family of drugs
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  Speaker 2: as Valium. He'd put them in drinks. That would make
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  Speaker 2: you woozy, sleepy, and then eventually go unconscious.
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  Speaker 1: Dahmer sexually assaulted the boy, but somehow, possibly due to
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  Speaker 1: Dahmer passing out drunk, the 13-year-old escaped and went to
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  Speaker 1: the police. In January 1989, he was convicted of sexual assault,
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  Speaker 1: but the sentencing was delayed until May, during which time
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  Speaker 1: an unrelenting Dharma, unbeknownst to the authorities, managed to claim
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  Speaker 1: a fifth victim. The 29-year-old served 10 months in prison,
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  Speaker 1: but when he was released in March 1990, he picked
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  Speaker 1: up right where he left off.
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  Speaker 5: So Jeffrey Dahmer really did ramp up his offending. The
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  Speaker 5: scale and the nature of his behavior became all the
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  Speaker 5: more grotesque. So he wasn't just killing people, dismembering them,
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  Speaker 5: and then disposing of their bodies.
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  Speaker 6: He started to do some really bizarre things.
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  Speaker 7: He was in the process of constructing some hideously diabolical
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  Speaker 7: shrine in his bedroom. out of the skulls and skeletons
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  Speaker 7: of some of his victims. It's almost as though some bizarre,
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  Speaker 7: archaic thing had broken through and he was performing or
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  Speaker 7: creating some sort of ancient, you know, human sacrificial temple
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  Speaker 7: in this little Milwaukee apartment.
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  Speaker 1: In 1990, Dahmer killed another four young men. His MO
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  Speaker 1: was becoming more and more polished.
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  Speaker 3: He would offer his victims money to go back to
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  Speaker 3: his apartment with him to take pictures, nude photographs of them,
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  Speaker 3: and then perhaps to have sex. Every single one of
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  Speaker 3: his victims went with him willingly. He would offer them
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  Speaker 3: a drink, and once he found out what they wanted
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  Speaker 3: to drink, he kept a lot of things on hand
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  Speaker 3: different kinds of alcohol, and that's when he would put
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  Speaker 3: a drug in it that would put them to sleep
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  Speaker 3: or that would relax them so that they would pass out.
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  Speaker 4: They would pass out, he would then have sex with
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  Speaker 4: them while they were passed out, do with them as
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  Speaker 4: he wished, but of course they couldn't do to him.
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  Speaker 4: Then as they approached recovery, coming out of it, he
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  Speaker 4: was strangled to death.
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  Speaker 1: It seemed as though Dahmer got a thrill, not from
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  Speaker 1: the murder, but from the dead bodies of his victims.
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  Speaker 4: Dahmer liked necrophilia. He liked sex with unconscious people. He
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  Speaker 4: wasn't a slasher in the sense that he took delight
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  Speaker 4: in killing. His purpose was sex with these people, company
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  Speaker 4: with these people. That's hard to believe.
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  Speaker 7: He would commit necrophiliac sex acts on the corpses, dismember
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  Speaker 7: the corpses, dissolve parts of the bodies in these vats
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  Speaker 7: of acid he had, keep certain organs in his refrigerator,
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  Speaker 7: some of which he would actually cannibalize.
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  Speaker 3: Dahmer said that the cannibalism that he engaged in was
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  Speaker 3: born out of He wanted to find out, first of all,
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  Speaker 3: what that would be like. He also said that there
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: was an element of wanting to make these people a
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  Speaker 3: part of him so they would be with him forever.
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  Speaker 8: Dahmer from the.
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  Speaker 7: Beginning, you know, was driven by this terror of being alone.
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  Speaker 7: He said he killed his first victim, Stephen Hicks, when
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  Speaker 7: Hicks said he had to go, and Dahmer didn't want
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  Speaker 7: to be alone. There's some desire, which is part of
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  Speaker 7: normal sexuality. You know, you love somebody, you know, somebody
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  Speaker 7: will say, oh, I love you so much I want to.
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  Speaker 8: Eat you up.
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  Speaker 7: With normal people, that's obviously metaphorical, but it does express
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  Speaker 7: some desire to be so close to the person that
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  Speaker 7: you want to incorporate them into, you want to merge
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  Speaker 7: with them. But with something like Dahmer, that becomes this
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  Speaker 7: very literal horror.
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  Speaker 1: And the horror only became worse when Dahmer began experimenting
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  Speaker 1: with his semi-conscious victims.
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  Speaker 3: He would drill holes in their skulls and put muriatic
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  Speaker 3: acid inside to see if he could get them to
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  Speaker 3: a zombie state so that he could keep them alive
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  Speaker 3: and subservient to him.
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  Speaker 2: Essentially an amateur version of attempting to perform a lobectomy
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  Speaker 2: or a lobotomy but it would be an incredibly unpleasant
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  Speaker 2: and damaging thing to do to someone's brain if you
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  Speaker 2: affect the frontal lobes you will affect personality potentially make
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  Speaker 2: somebody docile if he's less accurate you could essentially cause
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  Speaker 2: a stroke that could cause paralysis speech problems it really
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  Speaker 2: very much depends on which part of the brain is actually.
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  Speaker 3: Damaged but of course that didn't work and his victims
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  Speaker 3: died one after another hearing about that is the stuff
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: of horror movies. And the fact that it was happening
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: in a city where we were known for manufacturing and
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: beer and a very good Midwestern work ethic, tight families,
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: this isn't the kind of thing that happens here.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: In May 1991, 31-year-old Jeffrey Dahmer was in his killing prime.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: He'd already murdered 11 men and had begun collecting bones
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: and skulls from his victims and cannibalizing their organs. What
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: would have been a nightmare for most was a fantasy
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: for him, and he carefully went about his killings under
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: the radar of the police and the people of Milwaukee.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: Jeffrey Dahmer had a job in a local chocolate factory,
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: and I think for him it enabled him to maintain
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: a facade of normality. He was just an average Joe,
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: a regular guy who went to work every day.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: I think he killed so many people without being caught
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: because of the fact that he looked like everyone else.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: He did what successful serial killers do. He blended. They
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: blend in with society. Now, he was a Caucasian male
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: living in a predominantly African-American neighborhood, but he didn't talk
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: to anybody. He didn't bother anybody. He was barely someone
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: people noticed. Barely noticed. He also was targeting people who
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: he found out might not be missed.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: For most people, if they were to commit the type
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: of acts that Jeffrey Dahmer did, they would in no
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: way be able to function normally. But Jeffrey Dahmer was
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: not most people. He hasn't got the same level of
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: repulsion and shock at dead bodies or mutilated bodies that
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: most of us have.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: It was just another aspect of his life.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: It was not known that we had a serial slayer
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: loose in our city. We did not know because he
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: was so cleverly disposing of the bodies. The families were
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: reporting the sons were missing, but the police were not
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: finding bodies. And not infrequently, young men, something happens in
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: their life, they just up and leave town. It happens
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: enough that the police don't get worried. If it was
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: a woman, they'll immediately commit resources to investigate, but the
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: young men, they don't.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: But on May the 26th, 1991, Dahmer came agonizingly close
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: to capture after an encounter with a 14-year-old boy.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Dahmer had taken Conorac's synthesis phone. A young Asian male
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: who he found attractive, he met him in the mall,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: offered him money to go back to his apartment. He
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: went and he began to work the ritual. Dahmer would
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: drug him. And then he began the process of this
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: crude lobotomy. And he had drilled a hole in this
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: young man's head. He took a break. He ran out
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: to get more beer. While he was gone, Conorac ran
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: out of the apartment. He was naked. He was completely dazed.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: And he was running up the alley next to Dahmer's
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: apartment building. A woman in another apartment building saw him
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: running up the alley. and said, there's a boy running
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: up the alley, something's going on, and then these women
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: call the police.
• 23:26
  Speaker 8: And then Dahmer appeared.
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: And again, this is another, like, remarkable characteristic of these
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: psychopaths is that they have an ability to maintain, you know,
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: a kind of coolness under the most extraordinarily high-pressure circumstances.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: So he walked up to the officers, good evening officers.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: He's very polite. He's sober, and he said, this is
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: my boyfriend. He came to stay with me. We had
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: a little bit too much to drink, and he ran
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: out of the house. He said, how old is he?
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Dahmer said, he's 19. And the officers said, okay, well,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: just to make sure, let's all walk back up to
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: the apartment together.
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: The cops went in and looked around. They even peeked
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: into the bedroom where there was a decomposing corpse of
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: one of Dahmer's previous victims, but You know, they took
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: such a cursory look at it that they didn't even
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: notice it.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Assuming the couple were having a lover's tiff, the two
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: police officers left Konorak alone with Dahmer in the apartment building,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: and in the early hours of the morning, he murdered
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: the 14-year-old boy. An opportunity to catch the killer had
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: been missed.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: I think that really speaks volumes about the attitudes of
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: the police at the time in terms of ethnic minorities,
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: in terms of young people, in terms of the gay community.
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: and that was another victim that could potentially have been saved.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: So there's this terrible thing going on behind closed doors,
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: and people just aren't seeing it.
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: People aren't wanting to see it.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: Even the police are not joining up the dots and
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: finding out what's really going on. So this is allowed
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: to just bubble away and get worse.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: After evading capture, Dahmer was free to continue.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: There was two sides, really, to Dharma's pleasure that he
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: got from killing his victims. So he was a sadist
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: who enjoys the pain and suffering of other people. And
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: with sadists, that thrill ends when the victim dies. But
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: Dharma was also something of a necrophiliac who was interested
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: in having corpses around and doing things with those corpses.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: And that means that the thrill starts with death. So
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: he has this continuous fulfillment going on. And he's always
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: fully in control. And I think that's what's really at
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: the root of Jeffrey Dahmer. It's power and it's control
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: and it's the feeling that he has all this knowledge
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: about what he's done and nobody else quite knows what
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: he's up to.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: By July 1991, Dahmer's desire to kill had become insatiable.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: In just 16 days, he murdered four more men, bringing
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: his total number of victims to 17. But Dahmer's reign
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: of terror was about to come to an end. On
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: July the 22nd, he met a man called Tracy Edwards.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: While they were together in the apartment, Dahmer threw a
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: handcuff on him. This was now the beginning of his ritual.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Dahmer had taken photographs of his victims in various stages
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: of dismemberment, Polaroids. And those were sitting on the dresser
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: inside the bedroom. They weren't sitting out in the main
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: living room. but there was some speculation that Tracy Edwards
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: had perhaps seen that. And he ran out of the
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: apartment in his underwear, ran down the street, and when
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: he saw the police car, Tracy Edwards has said his
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: intention was just to get the handcuff off. That's all
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: he wanted. He stopped these cops to say, hey, can
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: you just get this off of me? So he stopped,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: and the officers start talking to him about what he saw,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: and then they said, well, we should, Probably check this out.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Let's all go back to the apartment. Dahmer answered, and
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: the minute he saw that it was the police, he
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: tried to shut the door on them. The police pushed
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: the door open a bit. They started struggling with him,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: and then finally he just gave in. And that was
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: when Dahmer was officially finished. He was finished killing, and
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: he knew that he was finished.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: The police officers immediately arrested Dahmer after finding the remains
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: of some of his victims in his apartment.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: They saw the body parts, and then one of the
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: officers said he heard a scream, then he realized later
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: he was the one who screamed when he saw the body.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: So they knew they were dealing with a very serious offense.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: Dahmer did not resist, a little slight resistance, but Dahmer
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: was taken into custody. and the investigation was initiated.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: What followed was an incredible media circus on Dahmer's doorstep
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: as unbelievable stories about what was being uncovered inside his
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: apartment were revealed.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: It was so fantastical that you think people are making
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: it up when they're telling you the details, but as
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: it turned out, they weren't making it up.
• 28:12
  Speaker 9: It was.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: All of the atrocities that we heard about that had
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: happened in that apartment really did happen.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: The medical examiner who was called to the scene didn't
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: know what was happening. It was so strange. There was
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: a freezer there, bodies, parts in the freezer, called in
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: a hazmat crew. Well, our television stations cover the police radio.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: When they hear that, they dispatch crews there. The first
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: day was local television. Second day, national television. By the
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: third day, it was international television.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: They were able to show video of these items coming
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: out of the front door of this apartment building that's
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: not usual at a crime scene. Saw a large blue barrel.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: in which we know that Jeffrey Dahmer was trying to
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: dissolve body parts. It had a refrigerator that was holding
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: skulls and also was holding body parts. So these are
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: coming down the stairs and people were just incredulous to
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: watch it. When I wrote the story for the Milwaukee
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Journal that morning and it was released in the paper
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: about eight o'clock, I think, in the morning, normally we
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: were an afternoon paper, but we went out early with
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: it because it was such an incredible story.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: But no one quite knew the enormity of the crimes
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: until Dahmer confessed to detectives at the local police station.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: When I've spoken to the detectives that were working this case,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: they have said, this was not a great whodunit. This
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: would have been a whodunit if Jeffrey Dahmer hadn't confessed
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: to everything.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: When Dahmer was arrested, there were already a number of
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: bodies in his quarters. He gave full confessions to the police,
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: detailing his involvement in 16 separate slayings. Most of the time,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: he did not know the name of the victims.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: When Dahmer remembered that he might not have shared with
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: the detectives, he would have the jail call him, whether
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: it was the middle of the night or the middle
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: of the day, and say, I remembered something else. Please
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: come over. Dahmer had said he wanted to make sure
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: that he didn't forget anything because he wanted those families
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: to have closure. I'm not sure about that. That may
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: be giving Jeffrey Dahmer more credit than he is deserved,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: but he did claim to want to try and remember
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: so that all of those families would have closure.
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: One of the interesting things about Dahmer that does differentiate
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: him from other killers of his breed is that he
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: did seem to be capable of a certain degree of
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: remorse and certainly recognized the extent of his depravity.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Although he confessed to killing 16 people in the state
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: of Wisconsin, Dahmer was first charged with four counts of
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: murder on the 25th of July, 1991, and a further
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: 11 counts were added in August. The following month, investigators
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: in Ohio found teeth and bone fragments belonging to Stephen
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Hicks in the woods near Dahmer's family home. A preliminary
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: hearing was set for January 1992. His legal team were
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: going to argue that the killings were the work of
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: a madman.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: The issue wasn't going to be, did he do it
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: or not? The issue was going to be, was he
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: sane or insane when he did it? And his hope
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: was that at least in even one of the cases,
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: he could induce the jury to believe that he was insane.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: Under those circumstances, he would be sentenced not to a prison,
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: but to a mental health facility. People would say to me, Mike,
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: this guy killed 16 people. He was drinking their blood,
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: eating parts of their body. He must have been crazy.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: It sounds like he's crazy to say that. but that's
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: not what the insanity rule is.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: The city wanted justice. They wanted to see the man
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: the press were calling the Milwaukee Cannibal locked away in
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: prison for the horrific crimes he had committed. The trial
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: of Jeffrey Dahmer would be one of the biggest in
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: the history of not just Wisconsin, but the entire USA.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: My reaction to it then was the same reaction I
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: think that everybody who lived in Milwaukee had. when they
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: heard about the case. No, it can't be.
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: This is Milwaukee.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Those kinds of things don't happen here. This is the Midwest.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: This is a very nice place.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: The trial of Jeffrey Dahmer began on 30 January 1992
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: and had a front-row seat.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: The courtroom was an odd spectacle because court TV was
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: still new in the game back then. And the idea
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: that you would come to court and you'd be on
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: television was still kind of new to people. It was
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: the kind of media attention to a trial that Milwaukee
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: hadn't seen in a very, very long time, if ever.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: I can remember so clearly the first time Jeffrey Dahmer's
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: initial appearance in court when he walked in. I think
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: the real fear that people had when they first saw
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Jeffrey Dahmer was that he looked like everybody else. He
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: was a good-looking young man, and he is not the
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: person that you would look at and say, stay away
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: from that guy.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: It would be up to Milwaukee DA Mike McCann to
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: attempt to prove that Dahmer was sane and responsible for
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: his actions.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: Guilty wasn't going to be an issue, but we wanted
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: the jury to know enough about the facts and so
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: did the defense to say, all right, what really happened here?
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: How atrocious was it? How planned was it? How was
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: he behaving? what skills were involved. He couldn't control himself.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: It was a lot to take in because the testimony
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: was so graphic. We all knew Mike McCann. He was
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: a religious man, and we've seen him in court. He
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: was a good attorney. But the kinds of things that
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: he was reciting out of the criminal complaint and the
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: confession were unheard of. These things were unheard of. and
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: they happened right here in our city.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: He did it quietly.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: He concealed the bodies, cleverly concealed, destroyed the bodies, planned
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: it well, laid in the equipment, got the drugs that
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: he used, knowing that he worked there, thought he was insane.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: The way he conducted himself was in a way that
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: it seemed that he was sane, and that's what we
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: wanted to get across to the jury.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Mike employed the help of psychiatry expert Dr. Philip Resnick.
• 34:37
  Speaker 9: The more bizarre the crimes, such as involving cannibalism, the
• 34:42
  Speaker 9: more the lay public wants to think that guy had
• 34:45
  Speaker 9: to be out of his mind. But in looking at
• 34:47
  Speaker 9: it from the actual strict definition of insanity, generally the
• 34:53
  Speaker 9: diseases of paraphilias, like necrophilia, where someone has trouble controlling themselves,
• 35:00
  Speaker 9: are not viewed, for the most part, as diseases which
• 35:05
  Speaker 9: qualify for insanity because of the social implications. One of
• 35:10
  Speaker 9: the points that I made as a consultant is even
• 35:14
  Speaker 9: if you have necrophilia and even if you have trouble
• 35:18
  Speaker 9: controlling your impulse, the majority of necrophiliacs will select a
• 35:24
  Speaker 9: setting where they can accomplish this without homicide. So some
• 35:29
  Speaker 9: become assistants in morgues or assistants in pathology labs where
• 35:36
  Speaker 9: they may have access to dead victims. Others will actually
• 35:40
  Speaker 9: disinter bodies after they're buried so that one does not
• 35:45
  Speaker 9: have to actually kill to exercise the necrophilias impulse, and
• 35:51
  Speaker 9: that's one of the reasons I felt that he didn't
• 35:53
  Speaker 9: qualify for insanity.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: The trial was essentially a debate between specialist psychiatrists about
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: the mental state of Dahmer, who sat watching the whole
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: thing play out over two weeks.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Dahmer was very calm in court. When you talk of
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: you assessing a person by what you see, no one
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: studying him would believe he was insane. He was watching
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: what was going on. He wasn't reacting in any negative way.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: He conducted himself in a very rational way, a very
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: proper way. This was a case to tell the world
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: that I did what I did not for reasons of hate.
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: I hated no one. I knew I was sick or
• 36:30
  Speaker 8: evil or both. Now I believe I was sick.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: On February 15th, the jury had reached a verdict on
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Dahmer's sanity.
• 36:39
  Speaker 9: Someone like Dahmer comes along who has never been in
• 36:42
  Speaker 9: a psychiatric hospital and alleges insanity. Juries are going to
• 36:47
  Speaker 9: be skeptical of it, and then when it's all in
• 36:51
  Speaker 9: the form of his sexual drive rather than a traditional
• 36:56
  Speaker 9: psychosis where someone's out of touch with reality and he's
• 36:59
  Speaker 9: taking careful steps to cover his tracks, it's very difficult
• 37:03
  Speaker 9: to succeed. with insanity with that type of case.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dahmer was ruled to be sane by the jury.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: On February 17, 1992, Judge Lawrence Graham sentenced him to
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: life imprisonment for each of the 15 counts against him.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: When the verdict was announced in court, there was a
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: great shout from the gallery, especially from the victims' families.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: They cried.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: I was pleased in the sense, happy, not exuberant. but
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: happy that this danger was removed from our community, that
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: the jury had not been hoodwinked, that the jury realized
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: this chap was not insane.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: The state of Wisconsin does not have the death penalty,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: but Dahmer would have to serve a minimum of 936 years.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: He was immediately sent to the Columbia Correctional Institute in Portage.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Three months later, on the 1st of May 1992 in Ohio,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Dahmer was also found guilty of murdering Stephen Hicks in
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: 1978 and given yet another life sentence.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Dahmer always said that he was compelled to kill, that
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: there were urges. He said, I had urges that I
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: could not control. He also said that even though he
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: was in prison, he was relieved that the killing was
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: done He still had the urges. They didn't go away.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: He was just in a place where he couldn't act
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: on them.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Locked away for the rest of his life, Dahmer found
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: comfort in the Bible. And by 1994, he decided to
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: get baptized. The prison called on local minister Roy Ratcliffe.
• 38:42
  Speaker 10: So I was quite surprised to be escorted to a
• 38:44
  Speaker 10: little room and left alone, and then Jeff comes to
• 38:49
  Speaker 10: the room, and he closes the door, and then there's
• 38:51
  Speaker 10: he and I sitting together across the table, and I'm
• 38:54
  Speaker 10: thinking for a moment, wow, I'm in a room with
• 38:57
  Speaker 10: a man who's killed several people. So yeah, that was
• 38:59
  Speaker 10: a little bit disconcerting, but I was there for a
• 39:02
  Speaker 10: purpose and for a reason, so I wanted to find
• 39:04
  Speaker 10: out what was going on and see what I could
• 39:06
  Speaker 10: do to help. So my fears were set aside primarily
• 39:10
  Speaker 10: because of my focus on what I was trying to do.
• 39:12
  Speaker 10: Jeff was a normal guy, courteous, very.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Respectful to me.
• 39:16
  Speaker 10: When we shook hands, I noticed his hands were rather small.
• 39:19
  Speaker 10: Looking at his hands and thinking, wow, these are the
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  Speaker 10: hands that strangled people, these are the hands that murdered people,
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  Speaker 10: these are the hands that dismembered people.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: On May the 10th, 1994, the same day that notorious
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: serial killer John Wayne Gacy was executed, Jeffrey Dahmer was
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: baptized in a prison bathtub.
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  Speaker 10: Then the door opened and I walked into the room
• 39:41
  Speaker 10: and Jeff had already crawled into the tub and the
• 39:43
  Speaker 10: only thing that was above the water was just simply
• 39:45
  Speaker 10: his head. And so I baptized you in the name
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  Speaker 10: of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit for the
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  Speaker 10: forgiveness of your sins and pushed his head down under.
• 39:52
  Speaker 10: And then when he came back up, I said something
• 39:54
  Speaker 10: I often say to people when I baptize them. I said,
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  Speaker 10: welcome to the family of God. He said, well, thank
• 39:59
  Speaker 10: you very much.
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  Speaker 1: But just six months after his baptism on November the 28th, 1994,
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  Speaker 1: Dahmer and another convicted murderer, Jesse Anderson, were attacked and
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: killed by a fellow inmate.
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  Speaker 3: Christopher Scarver. took a barbell, went into the bathroom, and
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: beat both Jeffrey Dahmer and Jesse Anderson to death. There
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: were a number of people who felt that Jeffrey Dahmer
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: got exactly what he deserved. And I called his mother.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: She said, well, now everybody got what they want. The
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: monster is dead. And then she said, he was my son.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: He was my boy.
• 40:39
  Speaker 10: It was a terrible, terrible death in that sense there.
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  Speaker 10: But for some people, it was a relief. They were
• 40:43
  Speaker 10: glad because all they could think about were the crimes
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  Speaker 10: he committed. They're not thinking about what I'm thinking about.
• 40:48
  Speaker 10: Here's a person who's trying to serve God as best
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  Speaker 10: as he can, and now his life is being taken
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  Speaker 10: from him.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, some people see some sort of poetic symmetry
• 40:57
  Speaker 7: in the fact that Dahmer's first murder was the one
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: in which he bludgeoned the teenage hitchhiker Stephen Hicks to
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: death with a barbell, and that he himself died in
• 41:08
  Speaker 7: a very, very similar way.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: The apartment on North 25th Street that housed Dahmer's macabre
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: collection of victims' remains and where 12 young men lost
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  Speaker 1: their lives was demolished in November 1992. But Dahmer's twisted
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: legacy has been impossible to wipe out. He has become
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: one of the most infamous serial killers in the world.
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: I think of Dahmer as sort of like the flip
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: side of somebody like Mozart. How do you account for
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: somebody creating that kind of music. Ultimately, how do you
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: account for somebody who is luring young men to his
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: apartment and drilling holes in their skull and injecting brains
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: with muriatic acid to turn them into zombies? There's something
• 41:54
  Speaker 7: there ultimately inexplicable.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Jeffrey Dahmer committed some of the most evil acts that
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: I have ever written about or heard about or seen
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: on a television show because they were real. I don't know...
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: if he was sane or insane, because that's not my
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: training to figure that out. But I can absolutely say
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: that he did some of the most evil acts.
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  Speaker 6: Known to man.
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  Speaker 1: Dahmer's crimes would not feel out of place in a
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: perverse horror movie. He was a man who killed to
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: satisfy his unhealthy sexual perversions. keeping parts of his victims'
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: skeletons as trophies and eating their organs. Jeffrey Dahmer truly
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: is the stuff of nightmares and, unquestionably, one of the
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: world's most evil killers.