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Bills vs Texans Thursday Night Football, CFB Week 13, Parlay of the Day & More! · Best Betting Show Ever

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  Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills on the road tonight playing the Houston Texans.
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  Speaker 1: The Lions minus five and a half. The total is
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  Speaker 1: forty three and a half. Art, Joe and I are
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  Speaker 1: going to take that game apart plus a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: more on the Best betting Show Ever. I'm Lawrence Presman.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. Everyone hit that like button,
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  Speaker 1: subscribe to our channel and make sure to comment. Art Joe,
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  Speaker 1: how are you guys?
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  Speaker 2: Joe?
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  Speaker 1: We'll start with you first today, as you normally just
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  Speaker 1: sit there and shake your head.
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  Speaker 2: Good price.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, there we God, I had another winning night for
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  Speaker 1: my clients last night. How about you.
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  Speaker 2: It's impressive, that's impressive. Yeah. Yeah. One our NBA games
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  Speaker 2: was we're good in college and ready for a Thursday
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  Speaker 2: night football game here college and NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's start with where the money is going and
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  Speaker 1: then we'll get into the Bills and the Texans. Art,
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  Speaker 1: let's leave the Bulls in the Texans component of where
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  Speaker 1: the money is going.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 1: Later on Steelers and Bears, Vikings and pack welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the show. How are those two games being bet?
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  Speaker 3: So Bears right now, we're two and a half. We
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  Speaker 3: took Steeler money at three total. Really has a budget
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  Speaker 3: forty five, so I mean right now it's probably sixty
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  Speaker 3: forty stealer to bear money vikings green Bay very interesting.
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  Speaker 3: This has pretty much been six and a half from
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  Speaker 3: our opener. The total is what has really gotten bet
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  Speaker 3: down from forty three to forty one. We had mentioned
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  Speaker 3: we I think all think Minnesota might be the move
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  Speaker 3: here in this game. We've yet to see anyone want
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  Speaker 3: to come and take a position on that, but we
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  Speaker 3: know with green Bay sitting at six six and a
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  Speaker 3: half in that range, they're going to be very popular
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  Speaker 3: in the money lines and very popular in the teasers,
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  Speaker 3: so we'll probably be big Viking fans come kick off.
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  Speaker 2: You think it hard? I mean Aaron Rodgers says he
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  Speaker 2: hopes to practice either today or tomorrow. They haven't ruled
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  Speaker 2: him out, But what are we thinking If he's in,
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  Speaker 2: are we getting any big move these out? Are we
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  Speaker 2: getting any big moves?
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  Speaker 4: I don't think there's a difference.
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  Speaker 3: I know this is crazy, but I think now it'd
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  Speaker 3: be interesting to see how the market reacts to it.
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  Speaker 3: We don't think here at the West Gate in the
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  Speaker 3: back room, we don't think there's a difference. Now, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the market's gonna dictate that, and our sharp betters are
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  Speaker 3: going to dictate what happens if he gets ruled in
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  Speaker 3: or out, and we might just have to move with that,
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  Speaker 3: But for us, we're treating them almost as equals.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, we'll get back to the bills in Texans,
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  Speaker 1: but let's go into college football. Pittsburgh, Georgia Tech, New
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  Speaker 1: Mexico Course, and Louisville at SMU. Where's the money going
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  Speaker 1: in these three games?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, pitt and Georgia Tech. Very underrated game, big game.
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  Speaker 3: Georgia Tech. Mine is two and a half at home.
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  Speaker 3: This has actually seen really good two way action. It's
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  Speaker 3: been bouncing back and forth from two and a half
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  Speaker 3: to three. Total of sixty two going to bet this
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  Speaker 3: scheme over. They've already started to creep betting the over
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  Speaker 3: a little bit here, So I think that's going to
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  Speaker 3: shoot up. New Mexico at air Force the Sharp's League
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  Speaker 3: two and a half. It's now three and a half.
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  Speaker 3: The total has come down a little bit as well,
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  Speaker 3: fifty eight and a half, fifty seven and a half.
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  Speaker 3: That's kind of been shooting down. And then this Louisville
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  Speaker 3: SMU game. SMU is a two and a half point.
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  Speaker 3: Home favorite Sharps took three with Louisville really nothing to
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  Speaker 3: speak of on the total fifty two and a half.
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  Speaker 4: It's pretty much been that all week.
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  Speaker 2: I mean exactly. I think the air Force game is
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  Speaker 2: air Force won't have it starting quarterback. I could still
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  Speaker 2: see the money keep coming in on New Mexico. I
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  Speaker 2: mean they've hit him one now through the key number three,
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  Speaker 2: three and three and a half.
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  Speaker 4: One hundred percent. Initial was two and a half.
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  Speaker 3: Three And listen, once we get to four four and
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  Speaker 3: a half, I mean we're starting to talk dead numbers
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  Speaker 3: as we always talk about. You know, we're going to
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  Speaker 3: get to a point where how high can you get
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  Speaker 3: on a game? Because we even look at four as
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  Speaker 3: a dead number. I know there are people who don't,
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  Speaker 3: but for us, when you're looking at four, four and
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  Speaker 3: a half, five, five and a half, those are dead numbers.
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  Speaker 3: College games are usually not tight. You know, it's usually
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  Speaker 3: a blowout one way or the other. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: so when you're booking a college game, it's way different
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  Speaker 3: than when you're booking an NFL game.
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  Speaker 1: Art this Caes are with us a sports book Westgate.
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  Speaker 1: You're the risk advisor. Art. We got three college football
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  Speaker 1: games tonight, a slate of NBA and a slate of
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  Speaker 1: a college basketball in NHL. Anything we need to know
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  Speaker 1: about any of those before we attack Thursday night football.
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  Speaker 3: I can give you some college basketball sharp stuff I've
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  Speaker 3: seen in the morning. Tennessee and Tennessee State. They've bet
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  Speaker 3: that total up from one fifty two to one fifty
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  Speaker 3: seven and a half. They bet Texas Tech minus nine,
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  Speaker 3: minus ten. They're now eleven playing wa in the Bahamas.
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  Speaker 3: And they took the under in the Indiana game under
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  Speaker 3: one sixty one. We're now one fifty seven and a
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  Speaker 3: half on that game.
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  Speaker 1: There we go, let's get into it Thursday Night football,
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  Speaker 1: the Bills and the Texans and uh, we're now seeing
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  Speaker 1: minus five and a half pretty much across the board
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  Speaker 1: according to odds Logic, sixty four percent of the tickets
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  Speaker 1: written on Buffalo, seventy four percent of the money and
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  Speaker 1: a ton of action coming in on the under. Is
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  Speaker 1: that what you're seeing at the Westgate.
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  Speaker 3: One hundred percent. We took sharp money on six this morning.
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  Speaker 3: We went to five and a half for us. We
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  Speaker 3: didn't take any sharp money on the total. We just
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  Speaker 3: moved with the market. We were forty four and a
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  Speaker 3: half when I came in this morning, we're now forty
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  Speaker 3: three and a half.
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  Speaker 1: Joe, how do you attack this game?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Art here, we are back in dead numbers now, right,
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  Speaker 2: so five to five and a half, it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: so we're basically thinking it's a one, you know, a
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  Speaker 2: field goal game with the situation. I don't know. I'm
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  Speaker 2: still trying to come up with how we're getting forty
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  Speaker 2: four or more points here. I'm having a hard time
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  Speaker 2: calculating it because we talked about it yesterday. Art, this
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  Speaker 2: line would look ahead was two and a half. Three,
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  Speaker 2: it doubled, but the total didn't do it. And the
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  Speaker 2: total state of forty three and a half. So where
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  Speaker 2: the hell are the points coming from? Having a hard
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  Speaker 2: time coming up? You know, it feels like a twenty
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  Speaker 2: one thirteen kind of game, and I don't think we
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  Speaker 2: get anywhere near forty four points in this one.
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  Speaker 3: I'm with you, and we talked yesterday how forty four
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  Speaker 3: and a half felt really high. Obviously you coming this morning,
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  Speaker 3: you see, okay, it's already a point lower. Does it
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  Speaker 3: go any lower?
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you.
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  Speaker 3: I don't really know what to think of the side either, way.
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  Speaker 3: We know for us, Buffalo is going to be very
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  Speaker 3: popular in moneyline parlays and teasers to start everyone's parlays
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  Speaker 3: off for the weekend, so we know we'll probably need
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  Speaker 3: the Texans in the game. But I'm with you, Joe,
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  Speaker 3: I think the Unders the move.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not with either of you guys. I just
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  Speaker 1: that you're saying that based on two things, one Houston's
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  Speaker 1: defense and two Houston's.
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  Speaker 2: Lack of scoring.
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  Speaker 1: I'll counter that with the fact that Buffalo just put
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  Speaker 1: up forty four of themselves against Tampa Bay. They've scored
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  Speaker 1: twenty eight or more seven of their last ten games.
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  Speaker 1: This is a team that regularly gets over thirty themselves.
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  Speaker 1: They're not gonna be playing in bad weather. It's not
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  Speaker 1: gonna be super windy. And I understand Houston's defense is good,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean, who's gonna hold this Buffalo team down.
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee put up thirteen on Houston. Tennessee putting up thirteen
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  Speaker 1: feels like Buffalo putting up fifty. Jackson will put up
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  Speaker 1: twenty nine on Houston. Denver put up eighteen. That feels
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  Speaker 1: like Detroit putting up seventy. To me, I know that
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  Speaker 1: Houston's defense is good, guys, But I feel like that
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  Speaker 1: that total is low. I would prefer the over, So
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  Speaker 1: should we bet an eyebrow?
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  Speaker 2: Listen, pres the fact that you even brought that up,
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  Speaker 2: that you think six touchdowns in Orchard Park in the
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  Speaker 2: weather has anything to do with this week's game. It's
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  Speaker 2: got squat to do. But you know what, the market
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  Speaker 2: I got news for you. They're gonna think exactly that
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  Speaker 2: forty four point My god, I'm gonna drop forty four.
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  Speaker 2: How are they not gonna score indoors? You know how
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  Speaker 2: they're not gonna score indoors? Josh Allen keeps turning the
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  Speaker 2: damn ball over and they can't run the ball anymore.
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  Speaker 2: And who's he throwing to, by the way, Zach, who
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  Speaker 2: exactly is he gonna beat in that secondary? I think
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  Speaker 2: it's a nightmare waiting for Happing for Buffalo here. They
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  Speaker 2: might actually have a chance of losing this game outright,
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  Speaker 2: which is why I think the under is the only
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  Speaker 2: way to look in this one. Even the team total.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to fade Houston's team total, I get it,
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  Speaker 2: even against Buffalo's defense. But nothing screams wild shootout here. Eight.
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  Speaker 1: You're right, Nothing screams wild shootout. Nobody is suggesting that
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  Speaker 1: Butler puts up forty four this week.
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  Speaker 2: But and a half is what's their team total?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I didn't look. But if you if you want
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  Speaker 1: me to guess a score on this game, I will guess.
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  Speaker 2: I'll get it for it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty seven twenty one, no too many.
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  Speaker 2: Touchdowns, twenty four and a half.
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  Speaker 1: I would take the I would that's a that's a
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  Speaker 1: very fair number. I would not go over or under.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a very legit number. But hey, Joe,
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  Speaker 1: if I was so high on the over in this game,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have said a word and just released it
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  Speaker 1: to my clients. I prefer the over. I ain't betting
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  Speaker 1: the over, so I'm taking it. You like Houston here,
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  Speaker 1: you like Houston here? Plus the points?
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  Speaker 2: Well, Houston team total art is twenty twenty and a
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  Speaker 2: hal twenty where a lot. I would rather go under
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  Speaker 2: Houston art. Give me to Houston two total under. I
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  Speaker 2: don't see him scoring three times.
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  Speaker 1: Agree, I agree. I agree with that, Joe. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think they're getting three touchdowns either, So I agree with that.
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  Speaker 1: Art anything on the side. I know you like the under, No,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I guess.
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  Speaker 4: I would lean the home dog, but I don't love it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'd rather have the points than lay them, I agree.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, there we go. That's our take on the Bills
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  Speaker 1: and the Texans. So Parley of the Day did not
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  Speaker 1: go well at all yesterday. Something about hockey Art.
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  Speaker 3: Those oilers, man, they are and the team for the
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  Speaker 3: rest of time.
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  Speaker 2: Listen.
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  Speaker 4: I not like your leg hit anyway, but that's not
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  Speaker 4: here in artist.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I didn't blame you. I said something about hockey Man.
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: We are going to create a hell list here on
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: Parlay of the Day teams from now on. There are
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  Speaker 2: going to be certain teams and antenna hell no, we
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  Speaker 2: are not allowed to bet them unless we're fading them.
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  Speaker 2: That's the only way we are allowed to mention.
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  Speaker 1: So we're we should start every show with who's on
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  Speaker 1: our hell noes? Okay, exactly. So I'm going counter intuitive here,
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  Speaker 1: Toronto may believe sixteen and four to the I'm playing
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  Speaker 1: the under. What is wrong with the under in the
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  Speaker 1: leaf game?
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  Speaker 2: How is that over? What?
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  Speaker 1: What is the problem with the college U n LB
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  Speaker 1: on the money line? Screwing it both? But there you go, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I gave you an extra play the under game that
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  Speaker 1: was that was a bonus. I did that purposely, O
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  Speaker 1: n l V. On the money line, what do you got, Art, I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna give you Tennessee on the money line. I think
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: they go into the swamp and kick the gators.
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  Speaker 2: Joe, that's impressive. I kind of like the way that's
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  Speaker 2: uh that you're looking at that. Art. All right, I
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  Speaker 2: am going to go since you guys are gonna make
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: things difficult. I think Oregon on the money line, I
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  Speaker 2: think Oregon beats USC at home. Let's keep it simple.
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  Speaker 2: Got to win it to be in it, right, I'll
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  Speaker 2: take Oregon to win on the money line.
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  Speaker 1: There we go. Yes, we got that segment done.
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  Speaker 2: Art.
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  Speaker 1: You can go back to work now. I'm glad you
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  Speaker 1: had a smile on your face. You enjoyed your time
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  Speaker 1: with us.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, be good, Art, I appreciate it. Art, thanks for
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: leaving me as always.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see Art. We'll see Art this season tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Great way to start the day, Joe. I don't think
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: we've ever got through that Thursday College Football parlay. Correct? No,
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  Speaker 1: and I would. I think it's me every time.
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  Speaker 2: And you always started off with the wrong player. You
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: don't even pick the right sport, and I just wait
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: to see arts reaction, absolutely priceless. Yep, brother, it's time
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  Speaker 2: for some business.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, let's get to the business speed, Joe.
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  Speaker 1: I'm freaking rolling right now, brother, A nine and two
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: since Tuesday, that's right, I've won nine games, lost two games.
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  Speaker 1: I'm rolling in every sport. I won my last two
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  Speaker 1: college basketball games.
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  Speaker 4: I am on.
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  Speaker 1: An eight and three NBA run. I am dominating NHL
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  Speaker 1: of late, and I'm excited about my NFL. I got
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: a lot going right now, dude, and call tonight alone.
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  Speaker 1: Thursday night, I got two NHL games, one college football,
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  Speaker 1: one NFL. My NFL is a parlay bet. I got
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  Speaker 1: an NBA. I got so much going on it's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: And this Sunday I got two nflats bets, which is
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  Speaker 1: about as rare as it gets. And I know you've
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  Speaker 1: got luck going on too. We've got a great promo
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  Speaker 1: up and it's gonna run out, only a few more
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  Speaker 1: days left. It's ninety nine dollars for ten days. That's
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: under ten dollars a day, ninety nine bucks for ten days.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: You get all my plays, and I am in freaking rhythm.
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: With that said, Joan areas too. He's up in every
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: single sport going on currently right now except hockey because
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have any balls to do it. Yet you
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: want to take over, Joe.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm laughing here, bro, because it's not has nothing
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  Speaker 2: to do with balls, although we've learned a lot about
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: your fascination with balls this week. It's time. It's literally time, yes,
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  Speaker 2: but there will come a time where we'll get back
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  Speaker 2: on the Panther. By the way, how the Panthers all
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: guys in barbecue accidents now? Like what in the world
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: will winning? And it's still like what is going on
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  Speaker 2: with the Florida Panthers? Like Jesus lights some sage or
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: something there. Pres still got that five percent college football
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  Speaker 2: max bet up and available at wager Talk. I'm just
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: loading up the rest of the NFL card. I got
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: a big college basketball card here tonight, and it looks
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  Speaker 2: like once I can confirm here in the NBA with
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: one team what's going on, I will fire away now
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  Speaker 2: twenty one and eight on the season in the NBA. PRES,
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  Speaker 2: so yeah, we are rolling right now.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, use that Bromo code. There's no code, just
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  Speaker 1: it out, Joe, let's get into it man. We're going
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: out to the clock. We got college football bets NHL Rundown,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Hoops Rundown, and we're gonna end the sh show with
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  Speaker 1: the mailbag segment. Joe, I got two college football bets
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  Speaker 1: qu the clock and let's get straight into it.
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  Speaker 2: Boom.
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  Speaker 1: Temple plus eight and a half vers Tulane. This is
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  Speaker 1: a classic spot where the schedule maker is handed the
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  Speaker 1: home dog a massive advantage. Yes, Temple has had two
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  Speaker 1: full weeks to prepare for this game. They've been sitting
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: at home, resting, getting out the and stewing on a
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  Speaker 1: fifty two and six beat down Tulane put on them
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  Speaker 1: last year. This is a massive revenge spot with a
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: huge preparation edge. On the flip side, look at Tulane.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: They are running on fumes. This is their third road
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  Speaker 1: game in four weeks. That travel takes its toll and
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: it shows up on the injury reporters. They have twelve
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: twelve players listed as questionable. Temple is seven to three
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: against the spread this year, let's not overthink it. They
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  Speaker 1: win this game, their Bowl eligible. Take Temple plus eight
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: and a half. As for our next game, a sexy
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  Speaker 1: one at that USC going into Oregon, and I like
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  Speaker 1: the Oregon team total over thirty four and a half points. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: that's right, seven touchdowns get us there, and this game
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  Speaker 1: screams points. Let's look at the history the last ten
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: meetings between these two schools, this game has produced at
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: least fifty four points in every single game. Eight of
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: those ten went over sixty. But here's why I'm isolating
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Oregon specifically USC. The bottom line is, over the last
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: three games, the Trojans are giving up nearly one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and seventy rushing yards per game. Oregon's going to be
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  Speaker 1: able to run the ball down this team's throat. The
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  Speaker 1: USC front seven are simply getting pushed around. Oregon's offense
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: ranks number one in the entire country in yards per rush,
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  Speaker 1: averaging over six a play. They are to get over
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  Speaker 1: forty in this game. Take Oregon Ducks over thirty four
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: and a half points. Joe, what are your two rays?
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: I like that, As a matter of fact, I'm betting
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: that right now. All right, A couple of college football plays.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: I'm on this week, and yes, this team should very
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: well be on the hell no list, buts Florida States
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: is on the road taking on NC State, and the
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: reality is, listen, Florida State is a much better team
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: than North Carolina State. They are a hot mess. North
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Carolina State's defense is atrocious, but Florida State can't win
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: a damn game on the road, which makes them impossible
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: to want to back here. Even though all of my
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: numbers favor Florida State by close to double digits in
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: this game, I can't do it. I mean three road
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: losses in games in which they have outplayed everybody on
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: the road only in losing efforts, because it's got to
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: be mental at this particular point in time. But what
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I will do is back to over in this game here,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: pez because if it's the one thing NC State can do,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: it's they got a pretty good offense and they will
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: be at home here. I got no problem looking at
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: the over in that one there. Florida State just can't
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: win on the road. The other games are gonna go
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: out west because I think this number is a little
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: light here with Fresno State at home taking on Utah State.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Fresno State right now playing some great football. Defensively, they're
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: playing well. We know they can score, and now they've
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: got an opportunity here in their home finale, maybe with
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: a shot at a Mountain West title game. Meanwhile, Utah
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: State is worse than Florida State. They've lost seven straight
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: on the road. They got a home finale against Boise
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: State coming up next week. But yeah, I like the
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: defense here Fresno State. I like the offense. It's rolling,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: it's a kick them price. I mean Fresno minus three
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: right now. I think Fresno State gets it done a
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: big way at home there.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Prez Joe, let's keep going NHL rundown twelve fricking games
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: on tap. I like Toronto Joe minus won ten against Columbus.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: I understand Toronto is a walking injury report, but I
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: think they get it done tonight, and I like the
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: under in that game. I prefer the under. I like
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia against Saint Louis. I think Saint Louis is a
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: really bad team and one that is having just problems everywhere,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: especially in the dressing room. Minus one twenty or Philadelphia
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Montreal tonight minus one thirty five coming off of a
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: bad stretch, and Washington is in a bad spot. They're
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: on a travel back to back and they just played
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: a tough game against Edmonton. I like the New York
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Islanders as a small dog against Detroit. The New York
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Islanders are a much better team than everyone anticipated, and
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I like the over in that game too. The number
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: is six. I think we get having goals. Florida is
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: the bet here minus one fifty against New Jersey. You
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: think Florida is injured, New Jersey is a mess as well,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: and regardless about who's injured off Florida, they just seem
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: to get it done. Minus one fifty for the Panthers
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: and the over in the Edmonton Tampa Bay game, Joe look.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I normally like to bet unders in Tampa Bay, but
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: there is a few sixes out there, and unless Edmundson
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: can can find themselves a goaltender, this team can't get
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: out of its own way. I gotta believe we're gonna
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: get seven in this one tonight. I like Vegas in Utah, Utah.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I think is obviously playing much better this year than last,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: but this is a team that is on a little
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: bit of a negative slide, and I think Vegas is
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: a bet on team moving forward. Colorado just can't lose games.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: But I don't like this spot. I don't want to
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: bet against the Rangers here. I'm gonna actually pass on
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: this hockey game, Ottawa playing Anaheim. I like the Ducks
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: here as a small dog. San Jose playing the Kings.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I like over five and a half in this game,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: and I like over six and a half in the
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Vancouver Dallas game? Who run down all yours?
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Did you? Did? I hear the black Hawks cracking call there? Press?
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: So you didn't.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I like Chicago Chicago on the money line. The Chicago
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: team is doing some good stuff.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: I got to ask you, Prez. I was on the
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Calshi market place the other day and they had a
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: really good price for Detroit to make the postseason, to
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: make the playoffs, I mean what they're I think they're
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: in the top spot right now, are they Is that
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: a mirage? Or are we buying Detroit getting back to
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: the postseason here?
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: You know, you know, Joe, it's more probably how stacked
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: that division is. Like you have Montreal as an up
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: and coming team, right, Uh, so you've got Boston is
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: rocking and rolling. So Florida, Tampa, Bay, Detroit, Boston, Montreal,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: and I do believe Toronto, no matter how bad they start,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: is going to be in the thicket things. There are
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: six teams right there that are all capable of making
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, and Ottawa and Buffalo, believe it or not,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: are not far behind. Really well, Ottawa's missing Brady Kachuk
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: once he comes back. We saw what they did towards
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: the end of last year. This is a team that's
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: much better than their record. And Buffalo is making a
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: little bit of noise. Everybody is kind of packed in there.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, I don't know about Detroit. It's
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: a division.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Yep, it is all right, Prez. Let's go NBA college basketball.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Start with the Clippers and the Magic. Struggling Clippers team obviously,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: they've gotten a season long seven game road trip here
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: that they are trying to get going on. But they're
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: gonna take on the Orlando Magic here, second of a
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: back to back for them. They had no problem winning
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: last night. Looks like Jalen Suggs in the lineup for Orlando.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: This has got underwritten all over it. No reason to
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: look any other way than that. The Hawks taking on
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: the Spurs. No web Byama for San Antonio, but they
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: are dealing with a couple of other cluster injuries there
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Stephen Castle and a few others, but they still have
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: the Aaron Fox. Recachet should be good to go, but
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: he is questionable for the Hawks. I do like Atlanta
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: here to bounce back in this one. Sixers and the
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Bucks sixers last night turn the ball over. I don't know,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: nine thousand times got smoked by Toronto. Good call by you,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Prez on the Raptors there, but they will have Paul
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: George and Embiid back here tonight, so I do think
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: a bounce back is in store. I don't know who
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: can bet on Sacramento or Memphis and with a straight face,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: so I won't do either because they're both horrific. But
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: let's take a look at a couple of college basketball
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: games here, Prez. And of course, anytime the number one
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: team is in the Bahamas taken on Memphis, you got
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: to talk about them. Purdue lay in what sixteen sixteen
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: and a half?
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Right now?
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Did open up fourteen and a half. They're at the
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Bahamar there in NASA and the Bahamas taken on Penny
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Hardway and Memphis, and you want to care to guess
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: how many returning players Memphis has none zero, because that
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: is what Penny Hardaway does. In the meantime, Purdue has
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: one of the most experienced backcourts, which is why they're
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: number one here. That trio Brandon, Smitch, Fletcher Lawyer and
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Trey Kaufman Wren the best in the country. I think
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: this has got blowout written all over at Memphis will
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: take no I mean Purdue will take no prisoners tonight, Prez,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: look for them to roll Memphis.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Team Joseph. Let's get to the mailbag section of the show.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: T Bone Stobs writes, a few books will offer minus
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: one in hockey as opposed to the regulation line. Would
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: you ever prefer a minus one bet for overtime protection?
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: So basically, Joe Carmine and I have been talking about
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: this for a while now, this minus one and what
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: it does. If you bet, you can bet a money line,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: say it minus one sixty, You can bet a sixty
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: minute line at say even money, and then you can
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: bet the minus one, which would probably be around minus
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: one ten. Which one of those bets do you like?
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: The most. I hate the minus one bet. I hate
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: that bet at such a high level. Now I have
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: not done the math and I'm actually going to do
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: a deep dive into the minus one, but I do
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: not like that bet. So many any of these games
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: end in one. They are three to two, four to three.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Almost every game is a one goal game, so you're
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: basically constantly gonna be pushing. I'd rather you seventy percent
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: of all games end in regulation this year. It's only
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: going to get bigger. It's gonna be seventy five percent
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: when all said and done. I hate minus one. I
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: would much where you guys take the U the sixty
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: minute line. Do you have any thoughts on that.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Pras that number you gave me last yesterday on the
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: show was mind numbing here given the fact that, I mean,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: thirty percent of the games are going to overtime, and
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: where what a little over a month into the season
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: right now here, and we're seeing a lot of overtime,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: a lot of one goal games, and we're also seeing
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: again goalies being polled with three minutes four minutes to go.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the sudden you know, pushes early
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: in the season. I don't know if the analytics have
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: changed or what teams are trying to do, but it
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: seems like there's a lot more desperation early in the
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: season here with teams, and they're willing to take more
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: risks than chances. I don't know how sustainable it is,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: but it is absurd, Prez. What is there any value
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: in laying one if every game goes to thirty percent
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: of the games are going to overtime and it's going
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: to land one one way or the other.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all you're doing is pushing. That's your sister. Richard
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: writes his favorite pizza is John's Pizza in West Village
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: in New York. One hundred year old brick Oven shout
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: out to John's Pizza. Yes, I've never had it. Do
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: you have any this?
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: No pizza, no West Village in New York now, But yeah,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: one hundred year old brick Oven is there's a certain
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: taste to that that you're not getting. That you're not
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: getting that Sabarros in them all.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you that, Chip guy rights, let's do a
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Survivor segment on Thursday would be great for the five
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: of us still in Yeah, no, that that that ship
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: has sailed.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Man when he's on the forty nine ers, though I
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: think he said he's leaning for I agree, by the way, Chip,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I agree. If you have forty nine ers available now,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: this is the game to play it. Absolutely yes, do.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Not take the Saints. Do not take the Saints. No, Joe, uh,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: the definition of savage sarcasm.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: That's you. Thank you.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: You wanted to talk about somebody?
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: What did you want?
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: No, there were a couple of comments here that I
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: thought was interesting. What is it? Jitum bit Agin one
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: two three six says your spot on prez Rani's a
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: real character, always fidget either making faces or just being
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: uneasy while sitting still. He has never ever looked relaxed.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: There's a certain bit of truth to that. But also,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: who do you think is producing this show live right now?
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: How do you think that's wrong? Do you think the
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: exactly these things are switching themselves? These graphics are popping
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: up at him. Yeah, not happening here. So we're walking
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: and chewing them at a high rate here, which is
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: why I look a fidgety. Also, DTA three twelve writes,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: I always wonder when people say, quote, this team is
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: desperate end quote, like Joe said yesterday about talking about
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs. He said, do they expect the
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: team to magically play better because they need a win?
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: By that logic, wouldn't a team that's own eleven be
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: desperate every week? Well, Kansas City has won the AFC
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: West every year since twenty and sixteen. They are five
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: and five and they are well, we're just at a
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: super Bowl a year ago. They are on five and
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: one score games. Comparing Kansas City to an own eleven team,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: thinking that is the same level of desperation is a
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: little bit ridiculous. Let's not compare apples to oranges here.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: You're talking about a Hall of Fame quarterback with mobile rings.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: I want to that level of desperate is totally different
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: than the Saints level of desperate.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't want to add to that, Joe,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Kansas City was in a must win game every time
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: they were in the playoffs. Every single game in the
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: playoffs is a must win game. They have already demonstrated
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: under the current regime. Basically the current roster with the
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: same quarterback that they love must win games. They are
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: at their best in must win games. A team that's
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: ohero and eleven is at their worst in must win
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: games because they've been playing one for about seven straight games. Anyway,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I agree, Joe Matt barb oh uck two quick things.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Jason wrote, because remember back where we ent the Kelshy
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: segment where I told everybody that bitcoin was going to
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: tank by September December. Well, bitcoin, Yeah, you remember I
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: said that bitcoin is down to eighty eight dollars US
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: right now there has been a huge pullback. I'll tell
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: you guys flat out. I think bitcoin is going to
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: continue to drop for the next little while. What does
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: that mean?
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Bye? Yeah? What? It always starts to drop, doesn't It
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: has the reset it in order to go higher. But
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: it's not only.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: About It's not only about resetting it. Look at what
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Michael Slayer and Street and Strategy are doing right now, bro.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I mean he just bought nine thousand bitcoin and one
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: hundred and five grand ten days ago. Now it's at
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: eighty eight grand. This is all good news in the
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: long run for bitcoin, not bad news, good news. I
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: would watch and wait for the next couple of weeks,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: and then I would jump right in. And Matt Bartley writes,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: hang a sign on the wall at a guitar shop,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: no stairway, no smoke on the water, no oilers. I'd
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: like to add no hotel California. What do you guys
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: want to add to that list? Put it up in
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: the comments section. Joe, I like it. Great freaking show
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: bro Boo.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Let's go see you tomorrow.