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Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me for another week on the Kenny Report. Tonight,
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Speaker 1: the ugly fallout from that Sydney Harbor Bridge anti Israel protest.
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Speaker 1: I'll show you the hate preacher who was part of
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Speaker 1: the march. And why does the same mob who defiled
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Speaker 1: the Opera House almost two years ago with their anti
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Speaker 1: due chants get to shut down the Harbor Bridge. Also tonight,
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Speaker 1: another report says the alban easy labor government we'll have
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Speaker 1: to spend even more of our money to reach its
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Speaker 1: net zero by twenty fifty. Targets plenty to talk about,
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Speaker 1: including a really special moment for former tennis star Julana Dokitch.
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Speaker 1: Gemton Uni and Caroline de Rosso will join me. Let's
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Speaker 1: get into it. Australia has lost its way, hasn't it.
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Speaker 1: We're intent on self destruction. We're undercutting our own values
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Speaker 1: and strengths from within. What was on display yesterday on
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Speaker 1: the Sydney Harbor Bridge. Some people dressed in Arabian scarves,
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Speaker 1: some covering their facest their faces with those scarves terrorist style,
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Speaker 1: some waving the flags of terrorist outfits like Hummas and
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Speaker 1: Hezblah and even parading a poster of the Supreme Leader
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Speaker 1: of Iran, the religious extremist whose regime funds terrorists including
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Speaker 1: Hummas and Hezbalah, and who was committed to the destruction
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Speaker 1: of Israel. Just sickening. They caught it with a truly
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Speaker 1: or William twist, a march for humanity, when in fact
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Speaker 1: it was a march for inhumanity, effectively pleading for the
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Speaker 1: Islamist extremist terrorists of Hummus to be left in charge
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Speaker 1: of Gaza. But listen to how the Prime Minister described
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Speaker 1: the protest.
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Speaker 2: Yesterday's march was peaceful and there was an opportunity for
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Speaker 2: people to express their concern about what is happening in Gaza.
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Speaker 1: Peaceful, peaceful protests, sing Kumbaya, Prime Minister, listen to what
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Speaker 1: this one was singing. Yeah, Death, death to the IDF,
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Speaker 1: Death to the young Israeli men and women who are
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Speaker 1: defending their fellow citizens, Jewish and Muslim alike, from Hamas,
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Speaker 1: from Hesbalah, from Islamic jihad, from the hoodies and from
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Speaker 1: Iran fancy wishing death upon the IDF, the defense forces
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Speaker 1: that all young Israelis serve with as a part of
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Speaker 1: their duty to protect their nation, the same IDF who
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Speaker 1: lost dozens of men and women on October the seventh
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Speaker 1: and has lost dozens more since. And I don't suppose
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Speaker 1: we should be surprised at the Prime Minister's support though,
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Speaker 1: for this protest, because back in the day he was
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Speaker 1: part of the same anti Israel mobs.
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Speaker 3: Of Israel. Oh well, wesle.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the leopard doesn't change his spots. Now, some of
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Speaker 1: you might think I'm overstating how repugnant this protest was
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Speaker 1: at its core. You'll think there were many people there
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Speaker 1: with genuinely good intentions. Sure, but I've shown you before
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Speaker 1: how the lead organizer is a self described socialist revolutionary.
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Speaker 1: This is just his latest attack against his own country.
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Speaker 1: But if you really want to get into some insight
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Speaker 1: into this protest and its motivations, then you should have
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Speaker 1: a listen to this local leader of a Sydney Muslim community.
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Speaker 1: We have the door.
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Speaker 4: How are you finding it?
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Speaker 5: I shall that's tubsolutely pack rap numbers look left right.
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Speaker 5: Sometimes all people coming from all around Australia support running
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Speaker 5: faster fast, and this is very hart homing.
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Speaker 4: Tell me about the crowd.
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Speaker 1: The crowd's incredible. They've got a lot of energy.
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Speaker 5: Everyone here wants to see the end of starvation. They
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Speaker 5: want to see the end of Desionist entity committing the
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Speaker 5: atrocities in their war crime. They're down on the Harbor
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Speaker 5: Bridge on Iconic Day when we are protesting.
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Speaker 1: We're marching for humanity. Yeah, Sheikh Ibrahim Dedoun, railing against
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Speaker 1: the Zionist state, he says, and marching for humanity. Does
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Speaker 1: he look and sound a little familiar to you, Well,
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Speaker 1: that's because you've seen him before about twenty months twenty
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Speaker 1: two months ago now, the day after the October the
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Speaker 1: seventh atrocities, when he was joyously celebrating the rape, torture,
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Speaker 1: and abduction of about fifteen hundred men, women and children
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Speaker 1: in southern Israel. Wow, there he was, and we had
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Speaker 1: political leaders, journalists, and so called human rights activists marching
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Speaker 1: along with this blow marching for humanity yesterday. Please see
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Speaker 1: what I mean about subverting our nation, undercutting our values.
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Speaker 1: The protest yesterday was typical of the anti Israel protests
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Speaker 1: we've seen for almost two years now. We see the
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Speaker 1: demonization of Israel and it just fuels ugly and violent
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Speaker 1: anti Semitism. Terrorist flags, posters of terrorist leaders, the chance
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Speaker 1: of slogans for the destruction of Israel. What sickening stuff.
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Speaker 1: Do you remember a decade or so ago when the
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Speaker 1: left went feral at Tony Abbott because someone waved a
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Speaker 1: ditch the witch poster behind him. Well, have a look
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Speaker 1: at this. At the march yesterday we saw at least
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Speaker 1: one poster of the Aetola Humane, the Islamist extremist leader
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Speaker 1: of Iran, who funds terrorism around the world, imprisons women
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Speaker 1: for not wearing a veil, and constantly calls for the
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Speaker 1: elimination of Israel. And there in front of that poster
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Speaker 1: a former Labor Foreign Minister Bob Carr, the Sydney Lord
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Speaker 1: Mayor Clover Moore, and former Labor minister now backbencher Ed Husick.
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Speaker 1: Yet Husick thinks we need to all overlook the extremist
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Speaker 1: elements on display yesterday.
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Speaker 6: Clearly people will pick out some things that objected were
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Speaker 6: objectionable to other people, and I completely understand that that's democracy.
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Speaker 6: But I just think I would hate for it to
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Speaker 6: detract from the images of that aerial view of the
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Speaker 6: Harbor Bridge with so many people on it that just
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Speaker 6: want the hostilities to end, and particularly impact on kids.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I forget about the messages, just go with the pictures. Hey, really,
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Speaker 1: some people might object to terrorism and the destruction of Israel,
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Speaker 1: but let's focus on how we really care about the kids.
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Speaker 1: Why then, was there not one poster calling for the
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Speaker 1: release of the hostages. Why didn't we see posters of
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Speaker 1: kids like these kids, Shiri Bibas and the two little
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Speaker 1: boys Kafir and Ariel abducted by Hummas on October the seventh,
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Speaker 1: held in Gaza, killed in Gaza and then handed back
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Speaker 1: as dead bodies in a grotesque ceremony put on by Hummas.
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Speaker 1: The monsters who started this war, keep prolonging it, and
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Speaker 1: to this day reject a cease fire. Why don't any
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Speaker 1: of these protesters talk about the kids who were deliberately
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Speaker 1: murdered and taken hostage. Let's be clear. The protest march
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Speaker 1: yesterday was demanding that Israel stops fighting Hummas, that it
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Speaker 1: leaves Hummus in charge, the same terrorist group that still
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Speaker 1: holds fifty hostages, thirty of them dead, just dead bodies,
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Speaker 1: they keepers bargaining chips, and twenty others alive or just
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Speaker 1: barely clinging to life, like twenty four year old Evita
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Speaker 1: David taken from the Nova Music Festival on October seventh,
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Speaker 1: six hundred and sixty seven days ago. Now let me
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Speaker 1: warn you this is horrible to watch. The video was
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Speaker 1: released by Hummus and his family approves of it being shown,
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Speaker 1: saying that the abuse of Iviata for propaganda purposes violates
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Speaker 1: even the lowest standards of humanitarian law and basic human decency.
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Speaker 7: And sagging.
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Speaker 8: And sang, makems know that I'm inerative and you get
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Speaker 8: my mush out when you're what, come on here.
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Speaker 1: Incredibly, while thousands marched across the Sydney Harbor Bridge citing
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Speaker 1: false claims about deliberate starvation and the targeting of civilians
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Speaker 1: in Gaza, no one was marching for the hostages, hostages
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Speaker 1: who face undeniable starvation in clear cut war crimes repeated
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Speaker 1: every day for almost two years. Now, he is more
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Speaker 1: of that distressing video.
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Speaker 7: You call him shovel, yeah, qu flash let Shakhov.
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Speaker 1: This is such a repugnant. Contrast the political posturing against
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Speaker 1: Israel that involves a constant effort to ignore what Hamas
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Speaker 1: has done, what it continues to do, and what it
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Speaker 1: will keep doing if, as the protesters demand, Hamas is
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Speaker 1: left in control.
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Speaker 6: I think that footage that you've just shown is really
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Speaker 6: important for people to see Hamas does. I've said from
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Speaker 6: the day, from day one number of things. Hamas obviously
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Speaker 6: has to be held to account. The hostages must be released,
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Speaker 6: and the other thing that's important for us all is
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Speaker 6: to recognize humanity from all sides. Israelis who suffered deeply,
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Speaker 6: brutally were were brutally traumatized, wrongly treated by Hamas on
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Speaker 6: the day of October seven, which I've regularly spoken up with.
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Speaker 6: Their families should have welcomed home. Every single person that
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Speaker 6: went about their business on October seven shouldn't be treated
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Speaker 6: that way, and those hostages absolutely should be released, and
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Speaker 6: whoever's treated people like that have to be held to account.
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Speaker 6: One similarly, innocent Palestinians, mums, dads, their kids, in particular Laura,
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Speaker 6: should not be treated in the way that they've been treated.
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Speaker 1: This really is tortured logic, a terrible false equivalence. Hummus
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Speaker 1: and its supporters didn't just wrongly treat people. They shot
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Speaker 1: them dead, decapitated them, burned them alive, raped them, tortured them,
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Speaker 1: and took them hostage, and to the extent that people
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Speaker 1: of the people of Gaza are facing terrible trauma now,
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Speaker 1: as they undeniably are. It's all because of Hummas. The
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Speaker 1: war could stop tomorrow if Hummas handed back the hostages
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Speaker 1: and surrendered. In fact, Hummas has just rejected another ceasefire offer.
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Speaker 1: Why was yesterday's march not directed against Hummas instead of Israel?
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Speaker 1: Why is the outrage not directed at the agents of
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Speaker 1: chaos rather than those who are trying to overcome this
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Speaker 1: death cult. For the march organizers, this was a public
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Speaker 1: relations master stroke, creating the impression around the world that
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Speaker 1: Australians are turning on Israel.
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Speaker 9: Of Cosspondent Nicol Johnson has the latest from Sydney.
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Speaker 10: Thousands of Australians across the country are holding pro Palestinian
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Speaker 10: demonstrations in Melbourne, Adelaide and here in Sydney on the
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Speaker 10: city's iconic Harbor Bridge. But even though the weather is terrible,
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Speaker 10: thousands of people have turned out for it.
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Speaker 11: Crowds marched across Sydney Harbour Bridge, which was closed for
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Speaker 11: about five hours. Organizers are demanding all humanitarian aid be
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Speaker 11: immediately allowed to Gazan and for the Israeli military to
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Speaker 11: withdraw from the.
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Speaker 4: Strip the rallies that come to an end.
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Speaker 12: The bridge is still close, but certainly a huge.
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Speaker 4: Number of people braved the rain. It came out in
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Speaker 4: the rain.
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Speaker 13: It's been bucketing all day here in Sydney to attend
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Speaker 13: this rally and have.
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Speaker 1: A look at the local taxpayer funded media, the ABC.
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Speaker 1: Not only has the ABC repeatedly misled the public with
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Speaker 1: false claims that Israel bombed the Alali Hospital, false claims
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Speaker 1: it targeted aid workers, and the deceptive images proffered last
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Speaker 1: week as proof of starvation, its reporter yesterday sounded like
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Speaker 1: he was making the protesters' arguments rather than just reporting
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Speaker 1: on their march. Their message is the loudest it's ever been.
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Speaker 9: They are deeply concerned about the level of human suffering
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Speaker 9: taking place in Gaza.
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Speaker 5: They wanted to stop and they're calling on the Australian
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Speaker 5: government to act now.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let them speak mate, You're not there to make
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Speaker 1: their arguments. We're in a bad place, aren't we. The
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Speaker 1: facts don't seem to matter, only the anti Israel narrative matters.
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Speaker 1: And to be fair, there will have been well intentioned
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Speaker 1: people at the march yesterday if they only watch the
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Speaker 1: ABC or read the Guardian, they might actually believe that
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Speaker 1: Israel is starving people, or targeting civilians, or prolonging the war.
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Speaker 1: This is where the misinformation and tendentious reporting is so dangerous,
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Speaker 1: and this is where the politicians and the media have
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Speaker 1: a heavy responsibility that too many of them ignore. And
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Speaker 1: this is where citizens need to accept their responsibility to
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Speaker 1: inform themselves. Because while there's plenty of anti Israel propaganda
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Speaker 1: out there, humm Us propaganda, the facts are available too.
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Speaker 1: People should just spend a bit of time informing themselves
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Speaker 1: unless they end up marching across a bridge and being
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Speaker 1: useful idiots for the bloodthirsty Islamist extremist terrorists of Hummus.
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Speaker 1: Carry a yellow flag for the hostages instead of a
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Speaker 1: humm or Hezbalah flag, and then you'd be marching for humanity.
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Speaker 1: Display a photo of hostages alive or dead instead of
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Speaker 1: the most dangerous Islamist extremist leader in the world, and
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Speaker 1: then you'd be marching for humanity instead. Australia showed that
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Speaker 1: it's imported the enmities and anti Israel biases of the
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Speaker 1: Middle East. There were many Palestinian flags flown. There were
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Speaker 1: Aboriginal flags there were the green flags of Islam and
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Speaker 1: the red red flags of socialism, but I couldn't spot
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Speaker 1: any Australian flags except for the one they burned in
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Speaker 1: the matching protest held in Melbourne, which also had a
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Speaker 1: lovely touch of graffiti calling for the abolition of Australia. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: these actions tell you a lot about the problems we
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Speaker 1: have and also just how far these protests have strayed
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Speaker 1: from mainstream values. They do damage, though, and not only
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Speaker 1: to our social cohesion. They also give encouragement to terrorists.
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Speaker 1: The reaction from Hummas to protests like this around the
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Speaker 1: world has been to extend the war, to break off
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Speaker 1: ceasefire talks and hang on to its hostages. The protests
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Speaker 1: are styled as anti war, but they actually only prolonged
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Speaker 1: the conflict. The way to end the war is to
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Speaker 1: maximize pressure on Hummus. People need to focus less on
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Speaker 1: telling lies about Israel and more on telling the truth
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Speaker 1: about Hummus. The other point about the march, the more
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Speaker 1: process driven problem is just the decision to hand the
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Speaker 1: bridge over to this protest, especially at late notice. The
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Speaker 1: state government in New South Wales didn't want it, the
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Speaker 1: police opposed it, but the Supreme Court gave it the
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Speaker 1: go ahead. Astonishingly, the judge, Belinda Rigg invoked freedom of speech,
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Speaker 1: weighing up the pros and cons of blocking this particular
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Speaker 1: exercise of freedom of expression. Well, no, that's just rot.
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Speaker 1: This decision had nothing to do with freedom of expression.
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Speaker 1: Just because I want to say something doesn't give me
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Speaker 1: the right to block a central traffic thoroughfare. People can
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Speaker 1: protest any time they like in parks, in squares, outside
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Speaker 1: Parliament House. There are plenty of places and plenty of protests.
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Speaker 1: They happen every week all around the country, but no
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Speaker 1: one has the right to take over a major thoroughfare,
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Speaker 1: a nationally significant piece of infrastructure like the Sydney Harbor Bridge,
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Speaker 1: just to advertise their point of view. The state government
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Speaker 1: is understandably concerned about the president.
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Speaker 14: Even those many people that were at the march on
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Speaker 14: Sunday and feel incredibly passionately about this issue, would accept
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Speaker 14: that we can't knock out the bridge every weekend. There
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Speaker 14: could be a demonstration every weekend. And I just want
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Speaker 14: to point out that in the last two years, New
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Speaker 14: South Wales police have facilitated one hundred protests with the
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Speaker 14: Palestinian Action group, as well as scores of other demonstrations.
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Speaker 4: So I need to look at that.
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Speaker 14: I need to weigh up public order, community safety with
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Speaker 14: the public right to protest, and no one should assume
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Speaker 14: its open season on the bridge.
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Speaker 1: You got to remember that almost two years ago, in
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Speaker 1: October twenty twenty three, the sales of the Sydney Opera
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Speaker 1: House were going to be lit up in Israeli colors
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Speaker 1: to mourn the approximately fifteen hundred victims and hostages of
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Speaker 1: October the seventh. But on that occasion Jewish Australians were
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Speaker 1: warned to stay away. In fact, two men with Israeli
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Speaker 1: flags were dragged away by police, and police stood by
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Speaker 1: as a pro Palestinian and anti Israeli protest took over
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Speaker 1: the Opera House forefront without a permit, and we heard
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Speaker 1: ugly and hateful slogans. So the Opera House was handed
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Speaker 1: over to the anti israel mob and there were no arrests.
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Speaker 1: And now the Sydney Harbor Bridge has been handed over
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Speaker 1: to the same mob of protesters. It's time the state government,
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Speaker 1: the police and the courts imposed some rules or enforced
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Speaker 1: the ones that already exist, because at this very moment
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Speaker 1: it seems that one group of protesters is taking over
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Speaker 1: iconic Sydney sites whenever it likes, and to hell with
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Speaker 1: everyone else. Let's go now to the shadow Federal Attorney General,
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Speaker 1: Julian Lisa Good to Court Talkture again. Jul just first
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Speaker 1: up your reaction to the events we saw on the
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Speaker 1: weekend and the fact that authorities were forced to facilitate it.
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Speaker 15: Chris I condemned the protest and the Sydney Harbor Bridge
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Speaker 15: in the strongest possible terms. I'm a member of Parliament
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Speaker 15: that represents Northern Sydney. Many of my constituents were inconvenienced
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Speaker 15: trying to access the city. The bridge was closed most
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Speaker 15: of the day. People who live in and around the
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Speaker 15: bridge were massively inconvenienced as.
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Speaker 1: A result of this.
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Speaker 15: The bridge is a symbol of the unity of this city.
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Speaker 15: It is also a symbol of the unity of our
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Speaker 15: nation and the bridge should not be hijacked for causes
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Speaker 15: that divide our country. The bridge should only be used
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Speaker 15: for things that unite our country, and I think this
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Speaker 15: was a very bad decision of the Supreme Court to
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Speaker 15: allow this protest to go ahead. I note that the
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Speaker 15: state government and the New South Wales Police both opposed
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Speaker 15: it going ahead, and I think the state government now
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Speaker 15: needs to look at whether the test laws of this
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Speaker 15: state need to be tightened in order to prevent the
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Speaker 15: bridge being used in such a fashion.
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Speaker 1: Again, the Prime Minister is going out of his way
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Speaker 1: to condemn anything about the protest. He seems to think
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Speaker 1: it was all sweetness and light here he was today.
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Speaker 2: The images that we've seen, it's not surprising that so
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Speaker 2: many Australians have been affected in order to want to
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Speaker 2: show their concern at people being deprived of food and
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Speaker 2: water and essential services, and so the demonstration. In a democracy,
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Speaker 2: it's important that people will be able to express themselves.
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Speaker 1: There he goes feeding this narrative as if Israel is
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Speaker 1: deliberately depriving water and food to the people of Gaza.
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Speaker 1: Now we know living in Gaza is a war torn
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Speaker 1: trauma at the moment because of Harmas's actions, but Israel
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Speaker 1: says it's not starving people. The AMA, the presidential envoy
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Speaker 1: who went in, says the same, what's your view of
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Speaker 1: these claims against Israel.
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Speaker 15: We have to remember the root cause of why Gaza
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Speaker 15: is in the situation it is in. That is because
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Speaker 15: on the seventh of October twenty twenty three, Hamas came
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Speaker 15: into Israel. They launched a terrorist attack the likes of
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Speaker 15: which Israel had never seen. There were twelve hundred people
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Speaker 15: that were killed on that day, and more than two
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Speaker 15: hundred people were taken hostage and taken back into Gaza.
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Speaker 15: There are still fifty people who are held in the
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Speaker 15: most appalling conditions. And the video that you showed of
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Speaker 15: the hostage, who is emaciated, who looks like someone who's
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Speaker 15: come out of bergen Belsen in the Holocaust, who's been
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Speaker 15: forced to dig his own grave, who's been starved and malnourished.
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Speaker 15: That is the reason why the conflict in Gaza continues,
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Speaker 15: because those fifty hostages have not been released. If Hamas
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Speaker 15: would release the hostages, if they would lay down their web,
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Speaker 15: and if they would have nothing more to do with
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Speaker 15: the future of Gaza then and the future of the region,
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Speaker 15: then things would go back to the way they were.
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Speaker 1: But let me just jump in there, Julian, because you've
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Speaker 1: got the Prime Minister saying that this is all a
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Speaker 1: bunch of people marching across the bridge because they felt
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Speaker 1: humanity for the victims in Gaza. He's completely turning a
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Speaker 1: blind eye to the fact that we had the Aetola
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Speaker 1: Harmone paraded across the bridge, we had the flags of
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Speaker 1: terrorist organizations displayed, people masking their faces with scarves, we
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Speaker 1: had shaped the dune there the man who celebrated October
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Speaker 1: the seventh at Lakember now pretending to march for humanity.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there are so many aspects of this march
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Speaker 1: that fueled exactly the sort of anti Israel and anti
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Speaker 1: Semitic sentiments that have troubled this country so much over
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Speaker 1: the past two years.
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Speaker 15: And some of the images I've seen online also indicate
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Speaker 15: that people were chanting into Fada as well. Look, these
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Speaker 15: have been very distressing images coming from the bridge yesterday
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Speaker 15: in terms of the way people sought to protest people
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Speaker 15: holding terrorist flags. We have passed laws to try and
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Speaker 15: prevent that. We passed laws to try and prevent people
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Speaker 15: holding symbols of terrorist.
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Speaker 1: Leaders and so on.
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Speaker 15: When people are holding pictures of the Ayatola, a person
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Speaker 15: who not only has been the cause of so much
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Speaker 15: disruption and financing of terror in the Middle East, but
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Speaker 15: who in this country his regime is terrorizing Iranian Australians.
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Speaker 15: It's just appalling that other people would be holding up
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Speaker 15: a symbol of such a person.
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Speaker 1: I understand yet Julian and Lisa, they were doing that,
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Speaker 1: and some of them were chanting death, death to the idea,
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Speaker 1: and our Prime Minister calls it a peaceful protest.
24:53
Speaker 15: I don't think that there was anything peaceful about a
24:55
Speaker 15: protest where somebody chants death. And it's the opposite of
24:58
Speaker 15: what Tainey Burke was saying back in Melbourne after the
25:02
Speaker 15: burning of the synagogue and the invasion of Misnon. So
25:06
Speaker 15: the government yet again is trying to.
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Speaker 1: Have it both ways.
25:09
Speaker 15: People have the right to protest, people have the right
25:11
Speaker 15: to call for the change of the foreign policy of
25:13
Speaker 15: this country, but they don't have the right to do
25:15
Speaker 15: it in a way that incites violence, and they don't
25:17
Speaker 15: have the right to do it in a way that
25:19
Speaker 15: disrupts the law abiding people of Sydney who want to
25:22
Speaker 15: go about their business.
25:24
Speaker 1: I just want to go to another issue. Well, I've
25:26
Speaker 1: got you as a shadow Attorney General. There's been this
25:29
Speaker 1: news out of Canberra today of the arrest of a
25:31
Speaker 1: Chinese woman on foreign under foreign interference laws. What do
25:37
Speaker 1: you know about this? Will you be seeking a briefing
25:39
Speaker 1: and what can you tell us?
25:41
Speaker 15: Look the Coalition will certainly seek a briefing about this
25:44
Speaker 15: and I can't tell you any more than is currently
25:49
Speaker 15: in the media at the present time. Foreign interference laws
25:54
Speaker 15: were passed under the last coalition government because we've seen
25:59
Speaker 15: the level of foreign interference here in Australia being at
26:02
Speaker 15: all time high, the Director General of Asia had said,
26:05
Speaker 15: and that's why we have these laws, because we want
26:08
Speaker 15: to protect our intellectual property, we want to protect the
26:10
Speaker 15: secrets of government, we want to ensure that our democracy
26:13
Speaker 15: is properly functioning. That's why we have those laws. And
26:16
Speaker 15: we'll be seeking a briefing on the nature of the arrests.
26:21
Speaker 1: That have occurred. Julian Lisa, thanks for joining us, Julian Lisa.
26:25
Speaker 1: They are the shadow Attorney General. I want to stay
26:27
Speaker 1: with the fallout the repercussions of that march yesterday. I'm
26:31
Speaker 1: joined now by Alex Rivchin, who's the co CEO of
26:34
Speaker 1: the Executive Council of Australian Jury. The first thing I
26:37
Speaker 1: want to ask you again, Alex, good to talk to
26:40
Speaker 1: you again, but is I know you and your community
26:42
Speaker 1: have been through so much in the past twenty two months,
26:46
Speaker 1: just how unsettling was it to see that march. Yesterday
26:51
Speaker 1: the Supreme Leader of Iran, a country and a man
26:55
Speaker 1: committed to the destruction of Israel as paraded across the
26:59
Speaker 1: Harbor Bridge. Death death to the IDF is chanted terrorist symbols.
27:05
Speaker 1: It must have been incredibly unsettling.
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Speaker 9: Look, the whole process was concerning for the community. The
27:13
Speaker 9: minute the Supreme Court, the Judge of the Supreme Court
27:16
Speaker 9: announced that she was effectively overturning the decision made by
27:19
Speaker 9: the Premier and by the police to not allowed us
27:21
Speaker 9: to go ahead on the Harbor Bridge, there was a
27:24
Speaker 9: great deal of the spare and anxiety in the community
27:26
Speaker 9: because we've seen large scale gatherings before turned violent. We've
27:30
Speaker 9: seen chance in support of terrorism, chants villainizing the Jewish community,
27:35
Speaker 9: and this was badged obviously as a march for humanity.
27:38
Speaker 9: But when you look at the organized of this march,
27:40
Speaker 9: the Palatine Action Group, this is not a group that's
27:42
Speaker 9: interested in humanity. Their concept of humanity is the destruction
27:46
Speaker 9: of Zionism in the state of Israel. Theyre pretty explicit
27:48
Speaker 9: about that. This is a group that, as October seven
27:51
Speaker 9: was still unfolding, they applied for a permit to rally
27:54
Speaker 9: in support of the Palestinian cause. They called it a
27:56
Speaker 9: great humiliation of Israel. They were reveling in what occurred
27:59
Speaker 9: on that day. So knowing that these were the people
28:01
Speaker 9: that were orchestrating all this, and we're very cleverly branding
28:04
Speaker 9: this as being about humanity to appeal to a mass audience,
28:07
Speaker 9: there was a great deal of concern in the community,
28:09
Speaker 9: and I think that you know, they succeeded in getting
28:11
Speaker 9: a lot of people there. You know, hearing the police today,
28:14
Speaker 9: they were concerned throughout about what would happen. They were
28:17
Speaker 9: clearly unprepared and they weren't given the chance to prepare.
28:19
Speaker 9: So it's clear to us and I agree again with
28:21
Speaker 9: what Julian Lisa said in the previous segment. The Harbor
28:24
Speaker 9: Bridge is a national icon. It's there to unify our
28:27
Speaker 9: city in our country, and what happened yesterday did not
28:29
Speaker 9: do that. It divided us further.
28:31
Speaker 1: I want to just show you a little bit from
28:34
Speaker 1: bobca at the march yesterday.
28:38
Speaker 16: Concern for the starvation of the Palestinian people expressed in
28:42
Speaker 16: Sydney on our famous bridge that'll go right round the world.
28:46
Speaker 16: I'd be immediately recognizing Palestine as Canada and the UK.
28:50
Speaker 1: And France have done. Yeah. Now that man, of course
28:53
Speaker 1: is a former Premier of New South Wales, perhaps more
28:56
Speaker 1: alarmingly a foreman Foreign Minister of this country and Alex
29:01
Speaker 1: It just astounds me. We're getting such spin on this
29:04
Speaker 1: match as being peaceful and a mass for humanity when
29:08
Speaker 1: they were chatting death to the IDF and supporting terrorist organizations.
29:12
Speaker 1: How can this be acceptable in our modern liberal nation.
29:19
Speaker 9: Well, look, Bob Carr is a man who's had a
29:21
Speaker 9: particular agenda for a great deal of time. I mean,
29:23
Speaker 9: he's someone who a long time ago was a supporter
29:26
Speaker 9: of Israel, very close to the Jewish community, and then
29:29
Speaker 9: he flipped completely really for personal reasons rather than anything else.
29:33
Speaker 9: And you know some of the things that he said
29:36
Speaker 9: in recent weeks, you know, likening the situation and guards
29:39
Speaker 9: that are the Warsaw ghetto to Stalin starvation policy of
29:42
Speaker 9: the Ukrainian peasants which led to millions of people starving
29:45
Speaker 9: to death and scenes of cannibalism. Bob Carr knows that
29:49
Speaker 9: there's no comparison to be made. He's someone who in
29:51
Speaker 9: the past has said that if there were a single
29:54
Speaker 9: rocket attack on his constituency in New South Wales, he
29:57
Speaker 9: would demand firm and decisive action against it. And when
30:00
Speaker 9: we see the sort of scale of barbarity of October seven,
30:04
Speaker 9: anyone in any concern, any position of leadership that is
30:09
Speaker 9: responsible for looking after their people and rescuing hostages, would
30:12
Speaker 9: do everything possible to fight for them and get them back.
30:15
Speaker 9: And that's what is role as doing. So, you know,
30:17
Speaker 9: you have to take what bobcast says with the heavy
30:18
Speaker 9: pinch of salt.
30:20
Speaker 1: Where do we go in this country? Though we saw
30:21
Speaker 1: what happened at the Opera House twenty two months ago,
30:23
Speaker 1: we've seen this now on the Harbor Bridge, and at
30:26
Speaker 1: both times authorities either standing back and watching or being
30:30
Speaker 1: muted by the court. What are you going to demand
30:33
Speaker 1: of state and federal leaders in the future.
30:38
Speaker 9: Well, look, in this instance, you can't really fault the
30:42
Speaker 9: premier and his government. They opposed this on very good grounds.
30:45
Speaker 9: I mean, Chris Mins would have been acutely mindful of
30:47
Speaker 9: what transpied on the steps of the Opera House and
30:51
Speaker 9: knowing the possibility of that recurring again on another icon
30:54
Speaker 9: and landmark of our city. He opposed this. The police
30:57
Speaker 9: opposed this. They weren't given the resource and the time
30:59
Speaker 9: to deal with it in appropriate and in the end,
31:01
Speaker 9: the pressure, the burden that was put on the police
31:03
Speaker 9: was extraordinary. They shouldn't have been put into that position,
31:06
Speaker 9: so you can't fold them. This was the decision of
31:08
Speaker 9: a single judge to overturn what was a very prudent
31:11
Speaker 9: decision made in interest of the people of New South Wales.
31:15
Speaker 9: But obviously if the law's being enforced in that way,
31:18
Speaker 9: it'll have to be looked at and the reason why
31:20
Speaker 9: permits are given it's going to have to be reviewed.
31:21
Speaker 1: Cerdadinly all right, thanks for joining us, Sir Alex, I
31:25
Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Alex Richan there, who's the co CEO
31:29
Speaker 1: of the Executive Council of Australian Jury. You've got to
31:33
Speaker 1: get to a breakdown coming up after the break calls
31:35
Speaker 1: to kick the bridge off limits for future protests. We've
31:38
Speaker 1: heard a few of those already. We'll follow up with
31:40
Speaker 1: the New South Wales Shadow Police Minister next. Now, just
31:48
Speaker 1: before we go to more about these protests, the Sydney
31:52
Speaker 1: Harbor Bridge and the law, I want to alert you
31:55
Speaker 1: to a new video that's been released by Islamic Jihad
31:59
Speaker 1: showing another Israeli hostage. His name is rom Broselowski. It's
32:04
Speaker 1: a very distressing video, but his family want the world
32:07
Speaker 1: to see it and Nurik tirty by your word clue,
32:19
Speaker 1: just shocking. Don't forget there are fifty hostages still held,
32:22
Speaker 1: thirty of them dead, twenty we believe twenty still alive
32:27
Speaker 1: held under gaza. Let's go to the New South Wales
32:30
Speaker 1: Shadow Police Minister Paul Tall, who joins me from Sydney.
32:33
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Paul. I want to first get
32:36
Speaker 1: your thoughts. I want to come to the laws and
32:38
Speaker 1: the bridge and the protests in a moment, but first
32:41
Speaker 1: up this idea. We're seeing so many politicians from the
32:44
Speaker 1: Prime Minister down applauding this peaceful protest. I want to
32:48
Speaker 1: know how a protest can be peaceful when it's being
32:51
Speaker 1: led by hate preachers, when it's showing the Ayatola from Iran,
32:56
Speaker 1: who funds terrorism, supports terrorism, and wants the anile of
33:00
Speaker 1: Israel and in fact attacked Israel last year, and also
33:04
Speaker 1: we had people there chanting death, death. To the idea
33:07
Speaker 1: of how do we view this as a peaceful protest, Well.
33:11
Speaker 17: That's right, Chris, and I think that's very concerning when
33:14
Speaker 17: you actually have people that are chanting what they were saying.
33:17
Speaker 17: I think when you had a look at people, there
33:19
Speaker 17: were people that were there peacefully, but there are also
33:22
Speaker 17: people there that really were on the edge of actually
33:24
Speaker 17: causing major disruption. And I want to make it very clear, Chris,
33:28
Speaker 17: this wasn't just traffic interruptions that occurred.
33:31
Speaker 4: This was actually putting public safety at risk.
33:34
Speaker 17: It was putting out police at risk, and it was
33:36
Speaker 17: also creating huge congestion and productivity losses to the CBD.
33:41
Speaker 4: Now, you know, people will say people have a right
33:44
Speaker 4: to protest, but.
33:45
Speaker 17: When you're looking at structures like the Sydney Harbor Bridge,
33:48
Speaker 17: this is an arterial road, this is a main road network,
33:52
Speaker 17: and what we want to see is people using that
33:54
Speaker 17: for the purposes that it should be. People want to
33:56
Speaker 17: be able to use it for emergency access, to be
33:59
Speaker 17: able to get in to the CBD, to get across
34:02
Speaker 17: to the airport. And let's not forget all the other
34:05
Speaker 17: roads because of the protest as well that were actually congested.
34:08
Speaker 17: We had the tunnel, we had Anzac Bridge all been
34:11
Speaker 17: backed up with cars throughout the day as well.
34:14
Speaker 4: So it has and has caused a huge amount of
34:17
Speaker 4: disruption in the city.
34:19
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. And the police today we're
34:21
Speaker 1: expressing their concern.
34:22
Speaker 14: Have a look, I need to weigh up public order,
34:27
Speaker 14: community safety with the public right to protest. And no
34:31
Speaker 14: one should assume it's open season on the bridge.
34:34
Speaker 18: If we had had a situation where people were getting frustrated,
34:37
Speaker 18: the mood of the crowd became a little bit more
34:39
Speaker 18: chaotic or hostile. We were in a bad position, we
34:42
Speaker 18: really were. And I had experts with me that work
34:45
Speaker 18: in public order, We had experts on the ground, and
34:49
Speaker 18: even they had said the mood that they'd never experienced
34:51
Speaker 18: anything like this.
34:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, the police there, Paul, of course opposed to march.
34:57
Speaker 1: So did the government, but the court overruled them. Now,
35:00
Speaker 1: as I showed at the top of the program, so
35:01
Speaker 1: this was about the freedom of expression. Now, surely freedom
35:06
Speaker 1: does have expression. Doesn't say that I demand the right
35:09
Speaker 1: to shut down the Sydney Harbor Bridge. They can have
35:11
Speaker 1: that protest in all manner of other locations.
35:15
Speaker 17: Absolutely, Chris, and I mean, it's extraordinary to think that
35:18
Speaker 17: one person can actually make a decision at the very
35:21
Speaker 17: last minute to say that a protest like this can
35:24
Speaker 17: occur on the Sydney Harbor Bridge and I certainly hope
35:26
Speaker 17: that it is not open season because I wonder how
35:29
Speaker 17: many other groups out there now we'll be thinking about
35:32
Speaker 17: potentially running a protest on the Sydney Harbor Bridge. And
35:36
Speaker 17: let's not forget the resources that have actually been put
35:39
Speaker 17: into dealing with this protest.
35:40
Speaker 4: And it's by sheer luck that we actually haven't seen.
35:43
Speaker 17: Some serious or major industry or injury that's actually occurred
35:48
Speaker 17: on the bridge itself. When you look at these vast numbers,
35:51
Speaker 17: the police themselves have said that it was perilous. Our
35:54
Speaker 17: police have said that they didn't expect the numbers that
35:56
Speaker 17: were there. There was a form one that was filled
35:59
Speaker 17: out indicate that they were going to have about ten
36:01
Speaker 17: thousand people. There was ninety thousand people that turned up
36:04
Speaker 17: and our police we're talking eleven hundred of them.
36:07
Speaker 4: We're overwhelmed with this situation.
36:09
Speaker 17: They did a fantastic job, but at the end of
36:11
Speaker 17: the day, you know, we're continually seeing these protests, continually
36:15
Speaker 17: seeing them.
36:15
Speaker 4: From week after week.
36:17
Speaker 17: We've got weekends where they continue, and at the end
36:19
Speaker 17: of the day, Chris, I think it's got to be
36:21
Speaker 17: about time where they can't keep sucking off the taxpayer.
36:25
Speaker 4: It has to be a user pay system.
36:27
Speaker 17: If they're going to run these protests and they're going
36:29
Speaker 17: to continue to use resources here in the state of
36:32
Speaker 17: New South Wales, they need to pay for them. We
36:34
Speaker 17: pay for major events when we have policing at them,
36:37
Speaker 17: whether that's car events or the NRL. It's important that
36:41
Speaker 17: we can't allow these protests to continue to continue to
36:44
Speaker 17: run and actually suck off the taxpayer.
36:47
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Paul. I can hear heads nodding
36:49
Speaker 1: around the country. Paul to all of the New South
36:51
Speaker 1: Wales shadow policeman as to these people who are running
36:54
Speaker 1: a muck at the moment, who runs the state, the government,
36:56
Speaker 1: the police or is it a bunch of protesters. Take
37:00
Speaker 1: a break. On the other side, we're going to talk
37:01
Speaker 1: about the alban Easy Labor government now being told that
37:04
Speaker 1: it's going to have to spend even more of our
37:06
Speaker 1: money to reach its net zero by twenty fifty targets.
37:14
Speaker 1: I love the way how the Labor Party and the
37:17
Speaker 1: Energy Minister Chris Bowen boast about how they're going to
37:19
Speaker 1: cut our power bills, and they spend a lot of
37:22
Speaker 1: our money pushing our power bills up, and then they
37:24
Speaker 1: spend more of our money subsidizing some people to put
37:27
Speaker 1: solar panels on, and then they spend more of our
37:29
Speaker 1: money subsidizing other people for cheap batteries. Meanwhile, power prices
37:34
Speaker 1: keep going up. But Chris Bond, he's still sprinking his giveaways.
37:39
Speaker 1: Got an update on this.
37:41
Speaker 19: We promised cheperhome batteries at the election and now we're delivering.
37:44
Speaker 19: And now in the first month, more than twenty thousand
37:47
Speaker 19: Australians have installed their cheeperhoan battery already and they're reducing
37:51
Speaker 19: their bills permanently.
37:54
Speaker 1: Let's get some more on the latest developments on energy
37:56
Speaker 1: in this country, and we're joined by Zoe Hilton, who's
37:58
Speaker 1: the energy policy analyst for the Center for Independent Studies.
38:02
Speaker 1: Good to talk to you again, zoieya. I'll tell you what.
38:04
Speaker 1: This country is going to need a lot of home
38:06
Speaker 1: batteries at vast expense to get through the energy crust.
38:09
Speaker 1: We're facing.
38:12
Speaker 20: M YEP, the Australian Energy Market Operator, in their Integrated
38:17
Speaker 20: System Plan, which is the government's plan to meet net
38:20
Speaker 20: ZERI by twenty fifty, they rely on a whole bunch
38:23
Speaker 20: of home batteries and most of those home batteries are
38:26
Speaker 20: actually going to be controlled centrally by a central operator apparently,
38:30
Speaker 20: so they're expecting consumers to buy these batteries, install them,
38:34
Speaker 20: and then hand the keys back over to the grid.
38:37
Speaker 20: And so, of course, because consumers don't want to do that,
38:40
Speaker 20: because batteries are very expensive, and anyone buying a battery
38:44
Speaker 20: does it because really they want their own autonomy. That
38:48
Speaker 20: means that the government has to hand out even more subsidies,
38:51
Speaker 20: and so of course we've seen a pretty big optic
38:54
Speaker 20: in battery uptake purely because the government is giving people
38:58
Speaker 20: money hand over fist.
39:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's extraordinary. I mean, that's what would convince
39:03
Speaker 1: me all this works if you have solar panels and
39:05
Speaker 1: batteries and people go off grid. But of course they
39:07
Speaker 1: can't afford to do that because they'll need the grid
39:09
Speaker 1: to put power in at some stage. But as you're
39:12
Speaker 1: saying that, the grid will also want to take power
39:15
Speaker 1: out of your battery even if you want it. They'll
39:17
Speaker 1: have the right to pull it out because someone else
39:19
Speaker 1: needs it more, or they decide someone else needs it more.
39:22
Speaker 1: It's frightening where we're heading now. The latest report into
39:25
Speaker 1: this saga is from the Productivity Commission, and they're saying
39:30
Speaker 1: that the government's going to have to spend even more
39:33
Speaker 1: and intervene even more if they're to meet their own
39:36
Speaker 1: zero by twenty fifty. Targets tell us what the key
39:39
Speaker 1: takeouts are from that report.
39:43
Speaker 20: So the way I would describe the Productivity Commissions report
39:46
Speaker 20: is how can we take taxpayers money, put it in
39:50
Speaker 20: a hole and set it on fire more productively. That's
39:53
Speaker 20: essentially what they're saying, because they're trying to get these
39:56
Speaker 20: uneconomic projects rammed through even faster. We talk about how
40:00
Speaker 20: do we make energy cheaper? All they really talk about
40:03
Speaker 20: is clean energy and maybe a little bit about reliability.
40:06
Speaker 20: But at the end of the day, they barely talk
40:08
Speaker 20: about how do we lower electricity prices, which is what
40:11
Speaker 20: actually will drive productivity in our country because electricity being
40:14
Speaker 20: cheap is what modern society relies on. And so they
40:19
Speaker 20: just have no idea that wind and solar are the
40:21
Speaker 20: very things that are causing electricity prices to spike continuously,
40:26
Speaker 20: and trying to run them through faster is not going
40:29
Speaker 20: to provide us with lower electricity prices, as the Productivity
40:32
Speaker 20: Commission has claimed in this report.
40:34
Speaker 1: This is the problem is that whether it'sa EMO or
40:36
Speaker 1: the Productivity Commission. All policy is directed at those zero
40:40
Speaker 1: targets instead of the targets that we need, which are
40:44
Speaker 1: reliable energy and affordable.
40:46
Speaker 20: Energy exactly, and we like the Australian Energy Market Operator,
40:54
Speaker 20: they actually don't really know whether we're going to have
40:56
Speaker 20: all of the tech in place for reliability. They're just
41:00
Speaker 20: at this point thinking, okay, we need to think about
41:02
Speaker 20: a plan to do some modeling to then get a
41:05
Speaker 20: plan to have maybe synchronous condensers or these different kinds
41:09
Speaker 20: of technology in place. But they don't actually know at
41:11
Speaker 20: exactly which points we're going to have to make which investments,
41:14
Speaker 20: and so it's all going to be a big mess,
41:16
Speaker 20: and there's a pretty decent chance we're going to end
41:19
Speaker 20: up like Spain with having a massive blackout because we're
41:22
Speaker 20: continuously eroding the stability in our grid.
41:25
Speaker 1: It's frightening. It's already a big mess. It's getting worse.
41:27
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Zoe, I appreciate it. Zoe Hilton
41:29
Speaker 1: there from the Center for Independent Studies. Don't worry everyone.
41:32
Speaker 1: It'll be fine because Chris Bowen is in charge. After
41:36
Speaker 1: the break, I'll catch up with Jemytanieni and Caroline de Russo.
41:39
Speaker 1: We'll plenty to talk about there. I want to show
41:40
Speaker 1: you a fascinating insight from Jelenadopts last night. The world
41:50
Speaker 1: is pretty stuffed up at the moment, so let's fix
41:51
Speaker 1: it up with Gematanieni from GT Communications on the desk.
41:54
Speaker 1: Key with me and Caroline de Russo in Perth. Great
41:57
Speaker 1: to have you both on board the Caroline to start
41:59
Speaker 1: with you. These protests over the weekend. We've talked a
42:03
Speaker 1: lot about the city harbor Bridge, but in Melbourne they
42:05
Speaker 1: burned an Australian flag and they were scribbling on the
42:09
Speaker 1: street abolish Australia. That this gives us a clue as
42:12
Speaker 1: to what these people hate and why.
42:16
Speaker 21: And death death to the IDF, I believe as well.
42:20
Speaker 21: It totally gives us an insight and in a sense,
42:23
Speaker 21: you know, there will be a lot of people who
42:24
Speaker 21: and obviously I think some of this, you know, does
42:27
Speaker 21: straight towards the incitement of violent side of things. There
42:31
Speaker 21: are things that do concern me because they're very belligerent.
42:34
Speaker 21: But in a way I'm almost glad that Australia gets
42:37
Speaker 21: to see these things because I think a lot of
42:40
Speaker 21: a lot of the time that sort of underbelly isn't
42:43
Speaker 21: necessarily shown. So it's stark and it's ugly, and I
42:49
Speaker 21: think it's important for Australians to see. And the irony
42:54
Speaker 21: of it, of course is Chris. Obviously, these people will
42:58
Speaker 21: say that it's their right and freedom of speech and
43:00
Speaker 21: all those sorts of things, but they're the same people
43:03
Speaker 21: who would accuse other people for hate speech, for saying
43:07
Speaker 21: things like there's only two genders. So you know, they
43:10
Speaker 21: are very confused, and they are a very belligerent group
43:16
Speaker 21: of people who are a total anathema to Australian values.
43:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, and let me just jump in there and say
43:21
Speaker 1: it goes without saying that all of us want war
43:23
Speaker 1: to end, and all of us want Palestinian kids to
43:26
Speaker 1: have the same freedom and prosperity and not get hurt.
43:29
Speaker 1: But it's about what the issues are, how you pursue them,
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Speaker 1: how you bring that about. And Jemma, the idea that
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Speaker 1: Albanezi and others call this a peaceful protest in Sydney
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Speaker 1: when they're waiving terrorist flags, saluting the leader of Iran
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Speaker 1: and chanting death death.
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Speaker 13: To the idea of Well, the way I see it, Chris,
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Speaker 13: is that there is no gray here. The prime minister
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Speaker 13: is either stupid or he is willfully ignoring what is
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Speaker 13: obvious to anyone with a set of That was not
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Speaker 13: a march for humanity. Let's not pretend. If it was
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Speaker 13: a march for humanity, they would have demanded the release
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Speaker 13: of the hostages. They would have acknowledged the absolutely heart
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Speaker 13: shattering and may I say, deliberately distressing images released by
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Speaker 13: Palestinian Islamic Ji heard over the weekend, and Kamas who
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Speaker 13: released the vision of these emaciated, starved, tortured souls who've
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Speaker 13: been held as hostages for nearly two years, one of
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Speaker 13: whom had to dig his own grave for the cameras,
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Speaker 13: and everyone on the political left you like to talk
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Speaker 13: about war crimes, Let's just remind everyone that taking hostages
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Speaker 13: is a war crime. This was not a march for humanity.
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Speaker 13: How many of these pretenders have been to the Middle East,
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Speaker 13: to the West Bank, to the Gaza envelope for my sins?
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Speaker 4: I have you have more than once?
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Speaker 13: This is Can I just use this phrase? You can
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Speaker 13: get mad at me later. It's a bullshit proposition by
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Speaker 13: people who pedal lies. And it's a government who is
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Speaker 13: too weak, either by design or default, and the weakness,
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Speaker 13: the moral weakness of the albanesy Wong coalition in foreign
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Speaker 13: policy has reached malignant levels and it is permeating every
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Speaker 13: area of policy in this government, such as economic policy.
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Speaker 13: For example, we don't have any option other than to
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Speaker 13: tax the Bejesus out of every Australian. What about living
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Speaker 13: within your means? What about saying we're going to have
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Speaker 13: to exercise a little bit of fiscal restraint.
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Speaker 1: Heaven forbid, Heaven forbid. They should live the way you
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Speaker 1: and I do. Good segue onto the economics because with
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Speaker 1: this economic roundtable coming up, the Union movement have made
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Speaker 1: clear what they want. Have a listen to salimcmanners.
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Speaker 12: You can have as many investment properties as you want,
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Speaker 12: but in terms of the tax benefit, limit that to one.
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Speaker 12: The issue isn't ordinary Australians that are trying to get
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Speaker 12: ahead and have an investment property.
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Speaker 1: That's not the issue.
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Speaker 12: The issue is is that a small number of investors,
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Speaker 12: and we're talking about one percent of investors own twenty
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Speaker 12: five center of the investment properties.
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Speaker 1: So there we go negative gearing. They're coming after that. Caro.
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Speaker 1: I never mind that it was taken to an election,
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Speaker 1: to elections back and they lost just quickly. It looks
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Speaker 1: like labor can't resist this one.
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Speaker 21: That wasn't even the best bit of that interview. The
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Speaker 21: bit that I really loved was where she talks about
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Speaker 21: redistributing productivity gains, and I thought to myself, well, starters,
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Speaker 21: there are no productivity gains to redistribute, and you're not
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Speaker 21: talking about redistributing productivity. You're talking about redistributing wealth. So
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Speaker 21: why don't you just be honest about it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's their game.
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Speaker 21: Totally confused, Totally confused. There were again, they're all confused.
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Speaker 21: They're all trying to hide behind this narrative of productivity.
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Speaker 20: Chris.
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Speaker 21: But the problem is is the union movement and the
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Speaker 21: Labor Party, their ideology is anathema to productivity.
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Speaker 4: They don't want to be productive.
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Speaker 21: That is, that's what gives them, you know, the will
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Speaker 21: to live in the air is to not be producted.
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Speaker 21: So I have absolutely no idea what a productivity round
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Speaker 21: table is going to produce other than a greater tax
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Speaker 21: burden for the people of Australia who already carrying most
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Speaker 21: of it.
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Speaker 1: It's a no brainer. We called it earlier, as soon
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Speaker 1: as they said they were going to have the Productivity
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Speaker 1: round table. We knew it would recommend higher taxes, which
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Speaker 1: has got nothing to do with productivity. I do want
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Speaker 1: to finish on something nice because there's so much yucky
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Speaker 1: stuff around in the world at the moment. And as
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Speaker 1: I'm not the sort of person to watch the logis,
47:32
Speaker 1: I don't know what went on, but I heard about this.
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Speaker 1: Jelena Dokitch, the former tennis star who we all know
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Speaker 1: went through hell with the domestic abuse let's call it
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Speaker 1: through her father. Well, she won the LOGI for a
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Speaker 1: documentary about her struggle and her triumph. Here's a little
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Speaker 1: bit of her acceptance speech.
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Speaker 22: This is not about winning. This is about a win
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Speaker 22: for victims and survivors, especially of domestic violence and mental health.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the other bit I wanted to highlight is
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Speaker 1: she said something really really nice about a bloke. Yes,
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Speaker 1: toxic masculinity and all that to Woodbridge, obviously, former Australian
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Speaker 1: tennis champion and broadcasting star. Now Elena shared with everyone
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Speaker 1: how he'd helped her out.
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Speaker 22: I was a person who couldn't string two sentences together. Look,
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Speaker 22: people in the eye had no social skills left. You
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Speaker 22: were the only one that believed in me, especially professionally.
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Speaker 20: Thank you for that.
48:30
Speaker 22: I always say to everyone, be someone's Tot, and I
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Speaker 22: hope that everyone finds it Todd like I did.
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Speaker 1: How good is that, Genma, be someone's Todd. I love it.
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Speaker 13: I'd like to be someone's Todd. In all honesty, I'd
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Speaker 13: like to be someone.
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Speaker 1: So that woman is.
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Speaker 13: That woman is a dead set hero in every sense
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Speaker 13: of the word. And I just think, more power to her.
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Speaker 13: May her story resonate widely.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, fantastic. And I've never met her, don't know her
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Speaker 1: or Todd, but you know, good vibes to both of them.
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Speaker 1: Love and strength to both of them. Great stuff. Thanks
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Speaker 1: for joing us, Caroline and Jemma. We'll catch you next week.
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Speaker 1: We've got plenty coming up for you again tomorrow night,
49:04
Speaker 1: but coming up at six o'clock, of course, is Kreitlin
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Speaker 1: with Steve Price in the chair. I'll see you tomorrow