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3 Guys Before The Game - Hail Mary-Ed (Episode 496) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Welcome in one and all. It is time for three guys before the game.
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  Episode number four hundred and ninety six titled hell Married. You can fill
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  words. You can yeah, ouch blank blank blank blank blank blank recapping West
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  and coming up. Spreads on stats brought to us by the Conley CPA Group,
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  providing value beyond the numbers. By the way, this would be a
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  nice fall boating day to day recording on Friday. It is beautiful. We
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  should all just after this, we should believe you out on the boat.
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  Should should have probably done this broadcast from a lou Wendel marine boat. Yes,
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  out of Cheat Lake, looking at the flowers or the leaves. Right.
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  Quite a few people would like to jump off of a bridge into some
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  water exactly after last night. All right, let's get into this thing.
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  Man. There's no uh, there's no ifs ands or butts. We jump
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  right in. West Virginia loses to the Houston Cougars on a hell mary that
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  ended the game by a final score of forty one to thirty nine. It
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  will forever be etched into the minds of mountaineer fans, forever and ever and
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  ever. If you're a regular listener viewer of this podcast. Oftentimes we refer
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  back to various games and they're just like there's just some that just come off
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  boom but boom, but boom, we go ninety six point block Miami,
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  I would just boom as if it was happening yesterday, or you know,
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  we even go back, we go the thirty one All Tide that felt like
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  a loss against pitt Yes, or the thirteen to seven game West. We
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  just have these games, and this becomes one of those. Unfortunately, and
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  as I told Hoppy earlier, Brad, this also will go kind of like
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  the Miami game that West Virginia lost at the Orange Bowl after Quincy's run,
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  like that was going to become the iconic memory of all time. Yes,
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  Quincy's run was going to be. Yes, Quincy scored the touchdown. West
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  Virginia beat Miami and then they convert and they win, and so the same
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  thing here. All right, So because Hudson Clement, we'll see, we'll
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  remember that for a long time. That would have gone down. The Hudson
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  Clement name was about to become an all timer. Yes, right, we
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  would have probably not us doing the show here in twenty five years, but
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  somebody would have had Hudson Clement on. Hey, I remember that touchdown you
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  hadigats that would have been an all timer. Still an unbelievable play, and
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  I know we'll get into it, but you're right, very similar to the
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  Miami O three. All right, hop you've had somewhat of a night to
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  sleep on it. What do you have? Yeah, Tony, so many
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  angles, but just what you said that that's that's I think for for coaches,
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  and where Neil Brown started in his press conference was it wasn't just about
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  the last play. It was about all the other stuff. And from a
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  coach's perspective, yes, and we're going to get into all that, but
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  from a fan perspective or an observer perspective, it's all about the last playing.
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  Like you said, that's the unfortunate part. I bet there are Mountaineer
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  fans like us who've seen four hundred games, you know, four hundred and
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  fifty games whatever, and I've forgotten three hundred and fifty of the games.
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  Okay, But like you said, when that happened, I'm thinking, you
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  know, Tremaine Mac nineteen ninety six south end zone blocked the punt. Nobody
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  blocked them. It was an illegal handoff forward goes I. I remember all
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  that. I remember all that, the Quincy wilsony I had the run.
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  But you know what I remember more than more than Quincy Wilson unless I watched
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  the video. I remember Kevin Winslow Junior going up and grabbing the ball,
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  making it the day on fourth down. So that's the bad thing for fans
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  is those things are just they're there. They are not going away. They
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  will always be there occupying space. They'll always occupy space on your on your
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  CPU. Yes, yeah, yeah, I mean it's deep. It's right
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  up there with the all time gut punchers losses. There's no question. In
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  the two Miami games here I think are relevant because each of those teams did
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  something different with that adversity. Unfortunately for the team, the ninety six team
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  had a really tough outing the next week against Syracuse ended up losing four of
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  its next five games. Changed the whole tenor of that season. The three
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  team won a different direction. That was a springboard game. They went on
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  to win seven straight in a share of the league titles. So we'll remember
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  this game forever, there's no doubt. But what comes next is really the
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  most important part of this story. Now, you can't do anything about that
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  loss, and that'll go down as a great missed opportunity because, to use
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  a baseball analogy, West Virginia didn't have its best fastball last night, But
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  good teams find ways to win when they don't have their best stuff, and
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  West Virginia was right there about to do that. That would have been a
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  game. Had you won, we'd be sitting here today going how about that
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  offensive performance? Air Green just going bananas and all the performances from receivers,
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  you would have had a ton to build upon, even though the defense didn't
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  do what it had done up to that point during the season. But the
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  offense picked that defense up and almost carried it across the finish line. So
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  I get that there's tremendous missed opportunity in that. But to me, now
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  the story becomes and we'll do the download of last night's misery. I get
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  it, that's what this show will be about today. But to me,
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  the bigger part of the story starts now, and what does that locker room?
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  What are they able to do? What's this coaching staff able to do
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  about getting everybody back together? So far, they've been very good, they've
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  been resilient, they've been connected. They're really going to need to be connected
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  now to make sure that's a footnote not the legacy of this season, right,
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  And that's what we often talk about in August, and we kind of
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  sit here and we smile and we giggle because what do they always say?
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  It was always the best offseason conditioning that we've ever had, and our team
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  chemistry has never been better. That's every single team, every single August.
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  That is all correct, and that they very well may be true in August.
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  But at the moment, this is when the actual character of a team
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  is revealed. You will find out the soul of this team. And I
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  think that this team to this point, previous to last night's game, it
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  showed us its soul. It's a battling team. It is a hard nosed
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  team. They don't quit, evidenced by that last drive and the Hudson Clement
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  play. Yeah, so they showed it last night too, Right, even
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  though it's a loss, they still showed you that they gritted it, they
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  gutted it. And so if I had to lean one way or another,
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  you'd say, I think they're going to respond favorably, but you do not
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  know. But this is that moment where you show who you are, no
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  question, no question, And that next week being at home obviously helps that.
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  And there are some things that you can pick out of that game,
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  namely the performance of the offense and the passing game in particular, and quite
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  frankly we'll get into this too. The repatched or we worked offensive line didn't
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  run the ball with your normal success. But my god, they pass blocked
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  right. Garrett Green had time. We'll get into some of those grades.
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  Those guys up front did a nice job in the passing game, So there's
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  some things you can pick up and hopefully move pieces of those forward. Defense
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  needs to clean up some of its areas. We'll get into some reasons why
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  they didn't have the same type of performance they've had. But yeah, you
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  got to pick yourself up now and battle back in and that's sometimes easier.
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  It's just gonna sound weird. Sometimes that's easier for coaches and players because they
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  have to get right back to the work right. The work begins immediately,
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  and you can lose yourself in the preparation moving forward. It's harder as fans
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  to move on because you don't have another game for another week, and this
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  one just stays in the forefront of your mind. And I get that.
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  Yeah, so a couple of different pieces on this thing. You had thirty
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  eight points scored between the two teams in the first three quarters combined thirty eight
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  points, the last quarter forty two points. So it became this just bizarre
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  back and forth, dramatic. Let's face it, if you didn't cheer for
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  Houston, if you didn't share for West Virginia, You're just some guy sitting
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  down there with a kerchie veil in the middle of America somewhere and you say
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  I'm gonna watch this college football game. You'd walk out of that thing and
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  you'd go like, WHOA, was that a wild, fun, entertaining game.
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  It's all of those things, but obviously someone has to suffer through the
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  paint and it gets even more painful. And I'm not going into your territory
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  here. On stats, I'll just give like the base stats. But if
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  there ever was a game in which statistics could lie to you, it would
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  be this one. I mean, you always say, well, first downs,
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  first downs. If you can get twenty five first downs like your gold
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  West Virginia had twenty six, Houston had twenty rushing yards a buck fifty five
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  for West Virginia. Houston gets one hundred and forty. But take a look
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  at the average yard per rush five point four for Houston, three and a
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  half for West Virginia. One of the ones that I just kept staring at
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  last night was possession time. Holy heck, thirty six minutes and forty six
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  seconds so say thirty seven to twenty three. Do third down conversions? Oh
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  my, do third down conversions thirteen of nineteen. You can't. You can't
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  do it a whole lot better. So to back that up, those are
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  those are often Tony called counting stats. We call those not the advanced statistics,
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  but the counting stats. So you're right on all those and that that
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  usually shows you a win. I'll go further. I'll give you an advanced
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  stat to back that up. Postgame win expectancy coming out of that game for
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  West Virginia n even without its best fascin eighty seventy nine points something based upon
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  the numbers, based on the number. Yeah. So what that does is
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  it looks at all those stats, puts them together, and when when a
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  box score looks like that looks the West Virginia side of that box score wins
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  the game eighty percent of the time. I'll give you the non statistical analysis.
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  It was a weird game, Okay. You know how some games are
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  our games and they look sort of normal and the stats look normal, and
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  like it all adds something. Oh okay, it makes you know. I
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  look at a lot of games on Sunday and say what happened you when you
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  look at this that you can go, okay, well, that makes me
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  I can see how that happened. I mean, it was just a weird
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  game. Weird things happened in that game, and it was just it was
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  just that it was unusual. Here's the other part, and there's a million
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  off shoots to this, but you talk about I know, it's an oblong
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  ball that doesn't bounce normal directions. West Virginia got two of the all time
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  great bad bounces last night, the Jalen Anderson wheel route that could not have
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  been thrown better, right past the guy's shoulder. Garrett Green put it right
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  there, and you saw Jalen look up for just a second. He had
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  a guy closing down in on him. So I get it's easy to criticize.
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  I didn't have a guy running at me about to lay me out and
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  get it. But that ball not only was incomplete, which would have been
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  tough enough to handle, but you probably still get a field goal out of
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  it. Not only was it not incomplete, it wasn't the touchdown, and
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  it didn't fall helplessly to the ground. It pops up and the guy picks
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  it off. He didn't even know the ball was there. The guy was
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  beating, he didn't even know the ball was there. It falls into his
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  hands and then the hail Mary at the end. So there wasn't just one
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  bounce last night. There were two, and those were a mass play.
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  And I'll admit when when the Jalen Anderson play happened and then Houston gets the
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  ball back and goes fifty eight yards on the first plan and scored a touchdown,
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  I thought, right then, Okay, that's it. That's not West
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  Virginia's night. They're not winning this game. Yeah, that was a fourteen
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  point sway. Yeah that I thought that was ballgame right there, and you
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  couldn't come back. So to your point about resilience, I give that offense
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  credit eighty eight yards in a minute and change to get down the field to
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  score that go ahead touchdown. But man, that those are some Those are
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  some really unlucky bounces in one game. Two massive bounces. Yeah, there
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  was, and it was There were instances too that I guess you, I
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  guess we have to talk about. You know, Gary Green taking his helmet
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  off and Neil Brown was very upset about that in a post game. I
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  mean really upset. I mean he called it asinine, and especially after what
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  happened with CJ. Donaldson in an earlier game. So I mean Brown was
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  just beside himself. And I think that was sort of like the epitome of
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  the of the mistakes, you know, the penalties and stuff. This is
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  like one more thing like what do you what are you doing? Why are
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  you making it right? Why are you making it harder harder for yourself?
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  So that and then on the hail Mary, I mean, two obvious holds,
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  but you don't get whod calls on the hail Mary. So there were
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  there were things like that too in the game that were going to stand out
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  that that people are going to talk about. And what do we talk about
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  special teams going into the game and they allow a one hundred yard kickoff return
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  for a touchdown, caught a break, caught a break that you didn't give
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  up two special teams touchdowns. I mean, so that that was a performance
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  in Western had been pretty good, and kick coverage they just they were not
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  and it and it cost you. I mean that's the thing. You're right,
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  You could say Garrett Green's penalty cost you because it moved them up,
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  allowed them to throw one out and then have Smith the ability to reach the
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  inZone. Okay, fine, cost you the game potentially because you didn't bat
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  it down. Cost you the game because that fourteen points, right, I
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  mean there's multiple things. Giving up a kickoff return for a touchdown was was
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  huge, and it was huge. You know you're not The kick wasn't supposed
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  to go there, right, It was supposed to go either out of the
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  end zone or to the corner, not to the guy. And then the
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  coverage was bad Tony. I mean, he wasn't touched. It's not even
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  like breaking tackles. I don't think he was touched. He had a hell
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  of a stopping go play though. I mean he slammed those breaks and guys,
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  yeah, he's a good player. And then he didn't even play later
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  in the game. He must have gotten hurt because he didn't. He wasn't
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  back out there their last two kick returns. To your point that they did
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  not have their fastball last night. So penalties. Right where West Virginia was
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  leading the Big twelve in penalties and last night they went the opposite direction.
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  They get flagged for eight accepted penalties. That cannot happen in that football game,
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  and they did commit those penalties and then the turnovers. There's only one
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  of all that went on there last night. There's only one turnover, but
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  it absolutely proved to be huge fatals. As we said earlier, that was
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  a fourteen point swing. So he kept waiting for Houston to turn the ball
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  over. Thing, well, they're going to turn it over. They really
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  don't. Statistically they don't. They didn't. But West Virginia with another dropped
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  interception, they've got to leave the lead and dropped interceptions, it was it
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  was right there, Coba Dick, I'm sorry, I'm Atlance Dixon. Yeah,
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  exactly. Yeah, So there were just there were multiple You focus on
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  that last hail Mary, because given all the mistakes you had, you still
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  just knock one pass down and you walk out of there still knowing those things
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  happened. But okay, you got the win, so you can move on.
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  But yeah, just that's a tough night all around. And I think
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  it just comes back to because of the missed opportunity. Think where you are
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  with a win right there at five and one, feeling unbelievably good about yourself.
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  Big picture, you're fourgn too, don't I don't know that a lot
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  of people had you at fourign too. You have two wins that you based
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  on the Vegas numbers you shouldn't have had, and you just gave one back
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  on one that by the number you should have had. So you're technically plus
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  one. If you want to try and move forward on a bright side of
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  things, you're still plus one just based on those numbers. Now, you
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  got to regroup yourself. I mean you are you are so that that again
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  is the logical way to look at it. But when you when you were
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  four and one, what do you want? Five? You want get great,
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  no question. So you're thinking like, okay, you got it going.
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  You're the favorite against a team that you should be. So so you
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  start thinking, you start thinking like that, So that makes it. That
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  makes it even more against a team that wanted to get beat. I mean
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  that defense for them, they were not doing anything that should have won them.
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  Again, you talk about a team that was ready to go down.
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  Now credit them because they found a way to not go down and made enough
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  plays. But that that's part of where you're your missed opportunity. What could
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  have been is going to be right. That defense was ripe for the taking.
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  But I'm gonna go back to the I'm gonna go back to the four
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  and one because yes, four and one you deserve credit for being for being
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  for and one. But how close were those games? I mean, any
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  of those games, Any of those games could have gone either way, right,
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  could have gone either way. But what do we talk about? Wow,
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  it's great because West Virginia found a way to win. Wasn't like dominant
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  performances. They found a way to win, but they were close. So
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  then this was almost like an evening of things up, like this game could
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  have gone either way and guess what, you found a way to lose.
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  Yeah, And that's why I say you're up to two in games you probably
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  shouldn't have won. Now you gave one back that you should have. But
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  here's the thing, hoped cleue in. This is gonna be the rest of
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  way of the season. Yes, you got to. You've got a bunch
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  of games that are gonna go either way, and you make a couple of
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  mistakes, you're gonna lose them. You make a couple of plays, you're
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  gonna win those. Yeah, that's what the rest of the seasons, That's
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  what this league is. That's what this league is. This league is exactly
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  right, exactly right. We have a texter later on and I can jump
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  ahead on that. And he says, if you if you're going to win
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  ugly, there're gonna be times that you lose ugly. Yeah that's true.
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  When that was last night you lost ugly? Sure? All right? You
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  ready for Spreads on Stats? Yeah? Hit it? I got you,
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  sure, yep, yeah, yeah, we're ready. He's going to the
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  glasses already. So let's do this thing. Let's do this thing. So
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  I checked your numbers. I'll just go right to the numbers. Comes to
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  jump into the analytics worship of the show. Ready, all right, we
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  all have our opinions, we all have our views. What transpired last night?
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  What does it all mean? Well, what about the experts, the
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  is the folks that the film graders have? Well, I'll we'll get to
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  grades here as we mix throughout this. Let's go back and look at a
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  couple of things that we talked about, see how those graded out based on
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  what we talked about last week. And really there were guys. There were
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  two major issues for the defense last night. And let's start with the one
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  that has been the key to West forgetting Western and getting those four straight wins,
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  and that's pressure on the quarterback. We talked on Thursday about the loss
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  of Trey Lathan and I thought that was going to end up being massive because
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  it was a guy that hadn't just filled in as a good starter. He
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  was performing at an all Big twelve level. He was one of your best
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  pressure guys and was adding to that group that was getting to the quarterback.
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  So no Lathan was a concern going into that game. We said, you
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  had to get to Donovan Smith all the numbers and this isn't unusual for quarterbacks.
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  This's just in hop They don't like getting hit, they don't like being
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  pressure, completion percentages, plummet Smith was no different. You needed to take
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  advantage of the Houston right side of the offensive line, specifically right tackle.
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  Remember we highlighted that matchup well. Overall, the Houston line did its job,
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  particularly in the second half. The right tackle, though, gave up
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  a team high three pressures and ended as the lowest graded blocker for the Cougars.
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  That was a whole West Virginia took advantage of it a few times.
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  Unfortunately, just not enough times. Overall, you just didn't get home enough.
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  Donovan Smith got way too comfortable, particularly in the second half, and
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  comfortable might be an understatement. Guys, I missed this in the moment last
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  night. Did you realize Smith was eleven for eleven in the second half,
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  Yes, completed his last sixteen? I know, I did not. Did
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  you know that? I didn't know it was the last sixteen? Last sixteen?
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  There were two incompletions, but those were waved off because of defensive pass
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  interference. That's incredible. That's no wonder you didn't get the win there.
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  That just can't happen for a guy that normally has struggled under pressure. You
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  just didn't get home with him. West Virginia had a season low eleven quarterback
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  pressures. According to Pro Football Focus. They came into the game averaging eighteen
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  point four against TCU, you had twenty three, So you only manage those
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  eleven. Last night. Smith had a seventy seven percent completion percentage when he
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  wasn't under pressure, and three of his four touchdown passes came under that scenario.
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  So that's a lot of numbers. As I often say, to back
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  up what you saw. First half, they did a good job. They
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  got after him. It was difficult for him. He was spooked on a
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  couple throws, missed some easy passes. Second half was totally different. Their
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  line did a good job for You couldn't get home like it was. That
• 21:02
  affected the coverage downfield too. If you're gonna sit in the zone and not
• 21:06
  get pressure, well what happens. Guys are going to be open, right,
• 21:07
  They're gonna sit in those spots and it's easy to find him. Pressure's
• 21:11
  been the key. It just wasn't there last night, and that was uncharacteristic
• 21:15
  of where this defense has been. Yeah, he got his mojo, and
• 21:18
  then you throw in the fact that he's two hundred and forty pounds and they
• 21:21
  ran some quarterback designed runs and he banged in there and banged in there.
• 21:26
  That's a very, very valuable asset, my goodness. The second major issue
• 21:33
  for the defense last night, Neil dresses in the post game, it was
• 21:34
  the tackling just wasn't good. A forty three point nine tackling grade from PFF
• 21:41
  last night. That's the third worst tackling performance under a Neil Brown team at
• 21:45
  West Virginia. So again, something you saw out there, just they didn't
• 21:48
  They didn't tackle enough. West Virginia was credited with twelve missed tackles according to
• 21:52
  PFF. So you knew that you wanted. Was the one stat? Excuse
• 21:57
  me, what was the one stat that Dana brought up to in his press
• 22:00
  conference previous to the game. He said, well, that's a great tackling
• 22:03
  team. He said they made they formed tackle. He said, we missed
• 22:07
  twenty plus tackles in our last game. He goes, those guys tackle correct
• 22:10
  and didn't get it done correct. That did not That did not go well.
• 22:12
  Okay, one other point that I think we need to talk about the
• 22:17
  offensive line for a second, because I thought that was a major deal going
• 22:19
  into the week. You're missing your entire side of your left line, including
• 22:22
  a pro and Wyatt Milam and in it not only so, the rushing game
• 22:27
  looked in the first half like it was on track. One hundred and fifteen
• 22:30
  yards rushing in the first half. You're on pace to get to two thirty's.
• 22:33
  That's a winning formula for West Virginia. I thought the play calling throughout
• 22:37
  the whole night was very good. The poor Houston defensive staff had no idea
• 22:42
  what was coming at it right they had they were absolutely the team was on
• 22:47
  skates and the staff had no idea how to answer that. There was some
• 22:49
  execution misses early, but you could see West Virginia was clicking and they didn't
• 22:53
  know what they were doing. Credit the offensive line here for a second,
• 22:56
  though, but it was a different game plan. We've said this Virginia's been
• 23:00
  left handed with its starting lineup intact. Last night it went more right handed.
• 23:04
  It was following over around the right edge where Doug Neestra is usually it
• 23:08
  goes around the left side real quick. Just number on that West Virginia is
• 23:14
  a team has forty six carries for two hundred and fifty one yards and four
• 23:18
  rushing touchdowns around the left edge. The next closest gap in terms of production
• 23:23
  is that left a gap right past the center and guard thirty two carries for
• 23:27
  one fifty three. So the left side has been its success. It was
• 23:32
  heavy right last night had ten carries going around the right edge. That was
• 23:36
  the most frequent gap last night. A stat that was alarming, but you
• 23:41
  saw how West Virginia adjusted to it. Houston stuffed WVU on twenty five percent
• 23:48
  of its rush attempts at the line of scrimmage or behind. Well that makes
• 23:52
  some sense because what was Houston saying, you're not running on us. You
• 23:56
  are absolutely not going to run the ball. We know you want to run
• 23:57
  the ball, We're not doing it. Seven in the back. West Virginia
• 24:00
  did a great job, I thought. I know people were losing their mind
• 24:03
  at times, but this is why you sometimes just have to sit and chill
• 24:06
  out and watch the game. What they're doing. Western kept trying to pound
• 24:08
  it up in there and there were multiple times where it wasn't working, and
• 24:11
  I know people were screaming, what are you doing while you running in the
• 24:12
  middle of the line. Well, if you were watching from behind what they
• 24:15
  were doing, you see those safeties. Those safeties kept running up, and
• 24:19
  they kept running up, and what was that setting up over the top big
• 24:23
  passing plays of which there were a ton, what eleven or fifteen plays of
• 24:27
  fifteen yards or more last night. So the passing game, the rushing numbers
• 24:32
  aren't what they normally are, but you compensated with an unbelievable game through the
• 24:37
  air and you torched that defense through the air. Credit those offensive line,
• 24:41
  then Nick Malone in particular, the guards that were shifted into different spots that
• 24:45
  they're not used to. The pass blocking was tremendous. Green had time on
• 24:48
  almost every drop back. So not the running game or stats that you normally
• 24:52
  want, but offensively, that's not what lost you the game last night.
• 24:56
  You played very well offensively, and credit that offensive line in a in a
• 25:00
  tough spot with guys in different positions, playing pretty well. I thought,
• 25:03
  yeah, those are good points because you threw for three ninety one as a
• 25:07
  result, because they did load the box up and they said, fine,
• 25:08
  you want to do that, we'll go for three ninety one. Yeah,
• 25:11
  you look at it. And West Virginia scored enough points to win the game
• 25:17
  had they had the normal type of a defense or or if you don't allow
• 25:21
  the special teams touchdowns, right, have the same kind of defensive performance you
• 25:23
  did. Just don't allow the kickoff return for a touchdown, which rarely happens.
• 25:29
  What other number here, Garrett Green threw for the three ninety one you
• 25:32
  just mentioned last time WESTERNI he threw for that many yards. Go back to
• 25:34
  Will Greer twenty eighteen against Oklahoma in that unbelievable back and forth game against Kyler
• 25:41
  Murray. Now in twenty nineteen, West Virginia did throw for four ninety eight
• 25:45
  as a team, but it was a tag team Austin Kendall for three point
• 25:48
  fifty five, Deggi for one nineteen in the same game. West Virginia has
• 25:52
  only thrown for more yards than Green did last night seven times in the last
• 25:56
  decade. Wow. So that was an unbelievable perform that unfortunately, as you
• 26:00
  mentioned, along with Hudson Clement's great play at the end, is going to
• 26:03
  get lost a little bit because you didn't get the win. All right.
• 26:07
  So that's the bulk of my I that's the bulk of my stats there.
• 26:11
  Grade wise, Did you have any specific questions or anything jump out to you?
• 26:15
  Who did well well offensively. It was some of the guys we just
• 26:19
  mentioned. The skill guys graded really well. Garrett Green, best offensive grade,
• 26:23
  Jaheim White was up there as well. Well, Devin Carter, he
• 26:26
  had his coming out excellent. Yeah he's right up there. Hold on,
• 26:30
  get you right now, yeah, Green Carter two, Preston Fox three,
• 26:33
  Cole Taylor four. And here's here's what I said. Kudos Nick Malone,
• 26:37
  your fifth highest grade offensive player and your highest graded offensive lineman thanks to an
• 26:44
  eighty pass blocking grade. There. So those guys did a great job of
• 26:47
  figuring out. Treylon Ray was up there as well, then Doug Nester,
• 26:49
  so the usual suspects you would think, all right, so we'll get into
• 26:57
  these texts coming up and just little bit and you got to heal man like
• 27:04
  really really quick mentally physically. You hope that you get Wyatt mile and back.
• 27:10
  You hope you get Thomas Remac back and you fix up. There's things.
• 27:15
  This will be the this will be the seminole moment of this season coming
• 27:22
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• 27:56
  Just a clarification. Eleven plays on the path passing side of things.
• 28:00
  Eleven pass plays of more than fifteen yards for West Virginia last night, A
• 28:04
  forty five, a forty nine, of fifty to end at a thirty five.
• 28:08
  That's incredible. That's what you're left, what you were looking for,
• 28:11
  that's what you're hoping for. Right again? Can you can you pick that
• 28:15
  up and say Garrett Green's gonna throw for three ninety one next week? No,
• 28:18
  you know what I always say, one week does not make a trend.
• 28:21
  But I think you saw a lot last night again, pass blocking,
• 28:25
  very good receivers getting open and hanging on to the ball for the most part.
• 28:29
  Garrett Green with another incredible performance on downfield passing. Now, there were
• 28:33
  some misses in the flat and short. That wheel route was open all night.
• 28:37
  You had a bunch of them that worked. You had some that you
• 28:38
  missed, But I think you have to be encouraged as guys continue to get
• 28:44
  healthy and this offense continues to play together. You feel pretty good about where
• 28:47
  the run game has been. You saw some life over the TCU and Houston
• 28:52
  games with the passing game. Is things starting to become something you could see
• 28:56
  where it gets to and then Green with his feet huge last night, especially
• 28:59
  in the first half, keeping plays alive. So I think there's some sparks
• 29:02
  in there of an offense that you think will continue to get better throughout the
• 29:06
  year. You can't yes yes in a in an objective way. You just
• 29:12
  can't let how that game ended, as they say, beat you twice,
• 29:17
  you know you can't have that hangover. But if you can take what you
• 29:19
  did offensively and try to continue that and fix the defensive problems, you'd be
• 29:23
  okay. But if you're still got, if your head still upside down because
• 29:26
  of how that game ended, then you gotta have problems. There's no doubt
• 29:29
  that that's reason number one there. But as you start to look forward,
• 29:32
  part of the success you had last night, you're coming off of a five
• 29:34
  game stretch where you faced some really good defenses. Penn State's outstanding, Pit's
• 29:38
  not bad, TCU Texas Tech can can play defense. You're getting into an
• 29:42
  area where those defenses aren't as productive. Houston being the lead in that.
• 29:48
  I know that's one of the worst in the Big twelve. So that's there.
• 29:49
  But you've got other teams down here. U CEF hasn't been playing good
• 29:52
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• 29:56
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  Oh yeah, it's been full. How long has that happened? A
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  number of weeks? Welcome to board. Just missed that one. You were
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  traveling. I missed that one. Yeah, a lot of things happen when
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  people travel. You never see the hoppy like Brad was unavailable. He was
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  traveling, unavailable for comment, unavailable for company, was traveling. That's what
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  the generic line is. Whenever they someone they want to comment from, somebody
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  goes, uh, mister Kirschier was unavailable. He was traveling. So I
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  to comment, so they go like, mister Smith was unavailable he was traveling.
• 31:41
  That's been one of the all time great holdovers because that used to be
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  true before cell phones. Right you were traveling, it was hard to get
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  ahold of you. You had to get you right when you were in the
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  hotel room. But she had if somebody had had the pink slip for you
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  when you walked into the office and handed to you right that pink call message
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  created. Yeah, this this exact scenario. Remember I said, I said,
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  like, okay, we need to get healing. We need to get
• 33:27
  textual healing. So, to no surprise, the number of texts was extraordinary
• 33:37
  when we went over triple figures in the number of texts. Really yeah,
• 33:40
  so not all texts can be consumed for in game text you might get like
• 33:46
  one thing and then twelve seconds later get get a very different text. Yeah
• 33:51
  true, Yeah, there was. There were several of those, so I
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  do think that the text were about to read encapsulize the general themes that people
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  if West Virginia would have held on to win at the thanks for having us
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  T shirts would have been flying, surpassed the efforting is the number one T
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  shirt selling that store? It was ready, let's do this. You know
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  a couple of people had a queued up already in their shopping cart. They
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  had it in their cart. Yeah, gotta wait. On that note,
• 34:42
  Texter says, this game defines what it means to be a Mountaineer fan.
• 34:45
  They'll build you up to break your heart, yet we still love and roots
• 34:50
  for them. Can't remember a Mountaineer game with the same type of emotion as
• 34:53
  when the basketball team rallied in the Sweet sixteen against Texas to tie it with
• 34:58
  seconds remaining, only to let Kenton. Now a buzzer beater that sent us
• 35:01
  home. Yeah, this would be the basketball version of that. That that
• 35:05
  to me, and I saw that text, so I didn't use it when
• 35:07
  we were talking about the two football examples. So that to me the direct
• 35:10
  comparison. The football is in the Miami but that's the one that really is
• 35:14
  the direct comparison where I mean, I remember where we were sitting in Atlanta
• 35:17
  for that, in the stands. I could walk you right back where the
• 35:21
  temporary bleachers were. Pittsnogle hits that shot went from the same feelings that went
• 35:24
  from oh this is going to be a loss to oh my god, you're
• 35:29
  back in it to all he didn't. It was the same that roller coaster.
• 35:34
  That to me is the direct comparison. When Paul had the hatchat shot
• 35:37
  to end the careers of Patrick and Hairbear and Pittsnogle and Gansey and JD.
• 35:42
  You know what's wild about that? I got a textas morning from John Beeline
• 35:45
  and he said, is this Neil's active cell number? He said, I
• 35:50
  need to text him. That's interesting. So it was it was a direct
• 35:53
  yeah, comparison to different sports, same wave of emotion where you thought you
• 35:59
  were done then you were in it. Then it was went back the other
• 36:01
  one coaches. No, yeah, John Beelam won't be the only coach that
• 36:07
  reaches out to Neil today, because that is the that's the reality of this
• 36:10
  business. Sometimes you just get absolutely gutted. You just got it. Texter
• 36:15
  says, encouraged by Garret Green's performance, but not much else positive to take
• 36:20
  from this one. I set after TCU. Perhaps this team's path the success
• 36:22
  was to play and win ugly. I guess I should have included that losing
• 36:27
  maybe ugly too. Here's hoping that this loss does not linger and a win
• 36:30
  against Oaks State can write the ship again. But I'll admit this one is
• 36:34
  going to be hard to shake. From Greg in Pittsburgh, Texter, I'm
• 36:42
  want to start out with a stat you may or may not know. According
• 36:45
  to wvstats dot Com October twelve, which was yesterday, nineteen oh seven,
• 36:51
  West Virginia defeated the Parkersburg YMCA fifty five zip. It was a great game.
• 36:55
  Now back to the present, West Virginia should not have lost tonight.
• 36:59
  However, I'm still proud of the growth of this team. West Virginia took
• 37:01
  me on yet another emotional roller coaster, and I'm fine with that because it's
• 37:06
  more about wins and losses for me. From the time I was old enough
• 37:08
  to remember, until I joined the Air Force, my dad and I watch
• 37:12
  or listen to every game I went to basic training during football season, and
• 37:16
  he wrote me the play by played every game I missed and mailed it to
• 37:21
  me. After that, we would call and text each other during the games
• 37:24
  until he passed away in twenty twenty one. No matter how bad we lose,
• 37:29
  West Virginia football always takes me back to my happy memories of my dad.
• 37:34
  I have to laugh, though, because I know exactly what he would
• 37:36
  have said after this loss quote just like WVU snatching defeat from the jaws of
• 37:40
  victory. Take care, three guys, let's beat Oak State. Jeff from
• 37:45
  somewhere in the Mojave Desert good perspective, Yes, Jeff, good exactly.
• 37:50
  Texter, Hello Matt from Louisville. I went out to see my boy Charles
• 37:53
  Wesley Godwin last night and throughout the show, my brother was sending me updates
• 37:58
  on the game. Then I get the text that we went ahead and there's
• 38:01
  seconds left in the game. I'm thinking to myself, I'm going to be
• 38:04
  in here with all these people that doesn't know the greatest tradition in college football.
• 38:08
  Then I get the WTF text high to low Charles jammed out. There's
• 38:14
  a picture of Charles in concert last night there in Louisville. Awesome Texter.
• 38:19
  Here's another one. Remember Pittsnagle banging down the three to beat Texas and the
• 38:22
  Sweet sixteen. That's the only other time I can remember this disgusting feeling of
• 38:27
  pure euphoria to total disbelief. Oh this is Jeremy and Cooperstown. My brother
• 38:30
  Jesse lives in Houston, of all places, called me as Hudson ran in
• 38:35
  for the end zone and we watched the last few plays on the phone together.
• 38:38
  Puke. That sucks, but I still like our team, Brad,
• 38:43
  I live bet us hard at the half. Puke again, Go Mountaineers.
• 38:46
  God bless you guys for doing a show tomorrow after that. One's still very
• 38:50
  much trusting to climb. Sorry, sorry for the double loss there, Yeah,
• 38:53
  Jake from the Team loses, you lost the bet, the dreaded double
• 38:58
  loss. Jake from WORT had a six word text, why can't we have
• 39:05
  nice things? Question Mark Justin from Thornton Hi, guys, loyal advocate of
• 39:14
  trusting the climb since the beginning. I'm done. Game at Houston a gauge
• 39:17
  of where this program is for me. That was a Rutgers type of game.
• 39:21
  You have to win it, doubv. You had the advantage in the
• 39:23
  stats, talent momentum. But yeah, here we are get us a coach
• 39:28
  that can take DOUBLEV to the next level. Yeah, that's again, I
• 39:34
  get all the emotion of that loss. That's just that's brutal. But I'll
• 39:37
  say again, especially on the offensive side, I thought the game plan was
• 39:39
  flat out outstanding. I thought they mixed in some new things. They did
• 39:44
  exactly what you had to do in baiting in those safeties, and then took
• 39:46
  advantage of what they gave you while switching your identity within the course of a
• 39:52
  season. That's a team that has not thrown the ball well, has struggled
• 39:55
  to throw the ball, and Neil Brown and those players said, Okay,
• 39:59
  you know what, Fine, you can't defend the pass. We're gonna pass,
• 40:01
  and we're gonna light you up with the pass. So I disagree with
• 40:04
  that, and I know people are gonna scream when you lose. It's always
• 40:06
  the coach. I get it, but I thought, in particular on the
• 40:08
  offensive side, Neil and that staff had a good plan last night. That
• 40:13
  was in our coverage. That was one of the things that Steve donelapp that
• 40:15
  really stood out to him early. He said, how do you throw the
• 40:17
  opponent off as you go against tendencies? Right? So, and that's what
• 40:22
  West Virginia did and they did it successfully well and the biggest tendency there.
• 40:27
  And I didn't. I didn't go back and pull the final number. But
• 40:30
  there's only one team in Power five that has thrown the ball less on first
• 40:32
  down than West Virginia, and that's Nebraska. What West Virginia do on a
• 40:36
  lot of first downs, I'll have that by the time you're done with TeX's
• 40:38
  what they do in first downs last night. Yeah, with a lot of
• 40:40
  success through it and broke those tendencies. So that tells me that's a great
• 40:45
  job by that staff of knowing what they think you're gonna do, showing them
• 40:50
  that it might be and then boom, then hitting you over the top.
• 40:52
  So I disagree with that when you say last night was about poor coaching,
• 40:55
  especially on the offensive side, Texter, I'll never understand the common defensive strategy
• 41:00
  used by ninety nine percent of teams against the hail mary. What's the better
• 41:05
  odds of success against it? Rushing three huge linemen that almost guarantees a successful
• 41:09
  attempt to the end zone, that produces a fifty to fifty jump ball situation
• 41:15
  among three or four players on both teams, or applying in all out blitz
• 41:21
  that in almost every case would prevent the throw into the end zone at all.
• 41:24
  No brainer. There's absolutely no way a team should lose with only seconds
• 41:29
  left in a game on a pass from fifty yards out. Well, maybe
• 41:30
  only a one percent chance on a blitz versus a fifty percent chance with a
• 41:37
  three man rush signed by Again, I'm not a coach. I'm not sure
• 41:42
  I agree with that either. I think that how often does the hil mary
• 41:45
  work? Almost never? And why does it usually not work? Because it's
• 41:49
  a very very long odds play, and usually it is a just jump ball.
• 41:52
  But you know you're not tipping it, you're trying to catch it.
• 41:54
  It's just and the defender who was the defender? It missed time jump?
• 42:00
  But there was like five wasn't it like five mountaineers back there? I mean,
• 42:04
  you run that play fifty times, it fails forty nine times. Does
• 42:09
  read Brad. Yeah, at the end of the day, the answer is
• 42:14
  what the answer is. Most of the time, you got to execute.
• 42:15
  You could draw up a bunch of different things. You've got to execute.
• 42:20
  Right, does Neil win a Coach of the Year award for the win offensively?
• 42:25
  Or did Hudson Clement make a great play at the end? Right?
• 42:28
  That he made a great play. Sometimes it's the players. You can say
• 42:30
  that it's the players when it's good and bad. It's not always just the
• 42:35
  head coach that either gets the blame or the credit. Sometimes it's the players.
• 42:38
  And you can say that guys didn't execute on the Hail Mary play.
• 42:42
  It's as simple as that. And that's what they'll say over in the building.
• 42:45
  Right, those guys know that if anybody knows that, it's the players
• 42:47
  that didn't make the play, they know when they didn't execute. If you've
• 42:51
  ever played the game, you know when you did not execute and do your
• 42:53
  job. It's as simple as that. And we can scream and holler about
• 42:57
  a million other things. But sometimes you just have to make plays and sometimes
• 43:00
  you don't and it costs you games. And the easy thing is always to
• 43:02
  point a finger at a coach, no matter who the coaches, no matter
• 43:05
  what, it is always the coach. That's just part And I get that
• 43:07
  they share in the blame too, that's part of the deal of being the
• 43:09
  coat. I get that too. But at the end of the day,
• 43:12
  you just got to execute plays. It's as simple as that. Scope spreads
• 43:15
  triple H big Z for Morgantown. He kind of writes his poem, Oh,
• 43:21
  the agony of tonight's defeat. The Mountaineers, once proud, now a
• 43:24
  symphony of despair, the defense a tragic tale of missed opportunities. Knock the
• 43:30
  ball down, they cried, but alas the echoes of defeat linger, leaving
• 43:35
  a heart torn asunder. Ah hope you've read some poetry. Is that pretty
• 43:40
  good? Or yeah? Well? What it is? It's heartfelt and indicative
• 43:45
  of the suffering that fans have. And as we like to say, to
• 43:50
  be a Mountaineer fan is to suffer. But to be a fan, to
• 43:52
  be a fan of anything, is to suffer. I mean, that's that's
• 43:55
  the nature of fandom, is exhilaration and suffering, and if you're committed to
• 44:00
  being a fan, part of the bargain is that you accept both. Yeah,
• 44:07
  if you enter yourself into the contest to embrace the jubulation that comes with
• 44:13
  it, you also must take the ugliness sometimes that comes with it as well.
• 44:19
  Yeah, dear three guys, it is with a heavy heart, a
• 44:22
  very heavy heart, that I must excuse myself for the rest of this season.
• 44:25
  If that wasn't a clear sign that I need to spend less time watching
• 44:29
  sports, I don't know what it is. It has been a fun ride.
• 44:31
  I'll be back for the summer series that starts in the spring. Thank
• 44:35
  you. Wow, somebody really hurting? There? Can I jump back in?
• 44:37
  I found that sat I was looking for sure, So talk about breaking
• 44:39
  tendencies and doing a good job of self scout and what the game plan is
• 44:43
  going to be. So again, one team in Power five has thrown it
• 44:46
  less on first down than West Virginia. They're almost entirely run on first down.
• 44:52
  Last night, West Virginia nineteen pass attempts on first down seven of nineteen
• 44:58
  for one thirty nine. How many first downs? So how many do you
• 45:01
  know? How? Out of how many plays? How many first downs are
• 45:05
  they? How many first down? Twenty six first downs? Okay? Right?
• 45:10
  So then so if you threw it nineteen times out of twenty six Yeah,
• 45:14
  after being the second lowest frequency passing on first down team Mike from Oakdale
• 45:21
  twenty oh three Miami Quincy Wilson game exactly the same. Let's hope this team
• 45:24
  can rally the rest of the way like the three team did. Keep climbing.
• 45:28
  Let's go Andrew and Little Rock by way of Parkersburg. Whatever that was,
• 45:34
  it has got to be the most jolting mountaineer emotional roller coaster I've been
• 45:37
  on since the run. I really thought this team and Neil were busting through
• 45:42
  their leg braces for good, like Forrest Gump, right in front of our
• 45:44
  eyes. And maybe they still did, but I've got to think next week
• 45:47
  is a likely letdown spot. Now, man, oh my, I need
• 45:51
  some melatonin. Texter, I'm a P one listener, first time tech.
• 46:00
  I've been waiting for something meaningful to say, because if I texted any time
• 46:04
  I read a favorable betting line worth getting input on Conley's CPA group would inadvertently
• 46:08
  be out of business. I recently traveled to Sun Valley, Idaho for the
• 46:14
  trailing of the Sheep Festival. While there, I used to I will read
• 46:19
  it again. I recently traveled to Sun Valley, Idaho for the Trailing of
• 46:22
  the Sheep Festival. I have to look up I'm sure you will. While
• 46:27
  there, I decided to stop and for a drink. While I was disappointed
• 46:30
  at the Chestnut brew Works empire had not yet expanded westward, I was pleased
• 46:32
  by conversation I had with one of the workers. I handed him my ID.
• 46:37
  He smirked while reading back my address, Hurricane, West, Virginia.
• 46:42
  I shocked because he even pronounced it correctly. I asked him microphone on,
• 46:45
  please, Brad. I asked him if he had a connection to the location,
• 46:50
  since he knew how to pronounce it despite being two thousand miles away.
• 46:52
  The gentleman proceeded to tell me his connection originally from Akron. Spent time in
• 46:58
  Huntington with his girlfriend from wynd Amazing. We chatted about the World Champion Mountaineers.
• 47:02
  Before we're both letting out it. Let's go Mountaineers. Signed by Boyd
• 47:06
  and Boise. Not my real name, great place, beautiful Trailing of the
• 47:13
  Sheep Festival. Need him help on the website. Twenty seventh anniversary of the
• 47:19
  Trailing of the Sheep Festival. It was October fourth through the eighth in the
• 47:24
  wood Wood River Valley of Idaho. What is it like? What do they
• 47:30
  do? Well? I allow them. The main page has a picture of
• 47:32
  a lot of sheep. So but I mean usually there's a main page that
• 47:38
  says this is the history of it. I can't find work on that for
• 47:40
  us. I will that'st go ahead. Sorry, So no, let's step
• 47:46
  away from football for a second. Ben in Wilmington, North Carolina. With
• 47:52
  the recent Kansas basketball announcement, the NCAA has made it clear there are no
• 47:55
  consequences girls violations. If Raikwon Battle is denied as waiver, I propose the
• 48:01
  following. Write a letter to the NCAA stating that the school respectfully disagrees with
• 48:07
  the decision and is evaluating legal options. The legal team plans to seek an
• 48:09
  injunction, but in the meantime Battle will play this season. If the NCAA
• 48:15
  responds, just keep repeating that the school plans to seek an injunction. In
• 48:17
  order to muck up the investigation, members of the athletic department and legal team
• 48:22
  writes lots of emails and text to one another with vague statements obliquely referencing in
• 48:27
  person conversations with phone calls with unnamed individuals who have said that they believe West
• 48:30
  Virginia could get Battle cleared. After the season is over, release a statements
• 48:35
  saying they have a come to a conclusion that they have decided Battle should not
• 48:38
  have played in the school will be self imposing a three game ban for the
• 48:42
  head coach at the beginning of next season. Finally tell the NCAA. The
• 48:45
  school eagerly awaits the results of the investigation in fall twenty twenty nine. Hashtag
• 48:51
  no rules Brett bred I don't know if you saw, but Kansas what I
• 49:00
  don't know, if you saw Kansas had its punishment handing down, would they
• 49:04
  have handed down to him? It's very their punishment. What happened? Take
• 49:09
  the banner down? I mean, it's like a four year investigation with a
• 49:13
  lot of calls and transcripts and tape. I'm sure overwhelming amount of evidence.
• 49:16
  They said, sure, there was a lot of sanctions levied. Now they
• 49:21
  just have to give back the Big twelve trophy and take the banner down.
• 49:24
  Yeah, so they vacated some wins there for using an illegal player. A
• 49:28
  gentleman by the name of Sylvia Dessa, who's actually come up on this show
• 49:30
  quite a bit. You've mentioned him. Yeah, he played in the game
• 49:34
  Big twelve Basketball Tournament championship game. He was a heck of a player that
• 49:37
  night, had sixteen to ten, in which Kansas defeated West Virginia eighty one
• 49:40
  to seventy, thereby keeping West Virginia from claiming its first ever Big twelve Tournament
• 49:45
  title. So is that is that one of the games that Kansas has now
• 49:49
  vacated. Yeah, and they can't claim the championship. They have to pull
• 49:52
  their banner down. I've said this before. I said it yesterday Hoppy on
• 49:55
  our cover. Yes, those a couple of things. Either head over and
• 49:59
  just picked the banner up from him, bring it back to the coliseum and
• 50:01
  hang the thing, or just go ahead if you wanted to match the motif
• 50:05
  in the coliseum, just go get your own one. Mate. Congratulations to
• 50:07
  the basketball team of twenty seven eight, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen for winning
• 50:12
  its first Big twelve Tournament championship. So you said, go full out UCF
• 50:16
  football on him when they rings in the whole thing, I mean, West
• 50:20
  Virginia won the thing. Kansas used an illegal player, well documented, quite
• 50:24
  frankly, was documented at the time, well documented. Hang the banner hashtag
• 50:29
  h TV hang hang the banner. You want to congratulations West Virginia. The
• 50:34
  second part of this to be serious for a moment, although that's mostly serious
• 50:37
  by me, and I get it. I get that. I can say
• 50:38
  that Wren probably can't actually go through with that, although man, it'd be
• 50:43
  great. I might show up at a basketball game carrying my own homemade banner.
• 50:45
  Might do that. Might try that shirt, get shirts made. You
• 50:50
  said, why we're efforting working on it right now? Big twelve tournament champions
• 50:53
  will probably be up in the store soon. Not to pull a Tony and
• 50:57
  you get sagged. Hang the banner, you won the championship. The second
• 51:04
  part of this, So if we can just have a serious discussion. So
• 51:07
  this ncaa particular group with all of the information they seemingly had, with no
• 51:13
  real sanctions coming for Kansas, and and Pat forty had a really good article.
• 51:16
  Pat forty of us I had an article said he got a text from
• 51:19
  a coach that said, I'm paraphrasing here, but he said, for all
• 51:22
  of us that followed the rules during that time, the joke was on us.
• 51:28
  Hard to not see it that way. But this is the same organization
• 51:30
  now that West Virginia is waiting with baited breath to see if it's going to
• 51:34
  approve and whether Raekwon Battle is worthy of a waiver or not. You're now
• 51:37
  going to listen to what this organization says. Given what has just transpired over
• 51:44
  this whole paying a player's situation from years ago, there really were no sanctions
• 51:47
  that came out of that for anybody, And now West Virginia and Rayquon Battle
• 51:52
  have to sit and wait for this organization. Do you have a lot of
• 51:53
  trust that this organization is making the best decisions possible? No? I mean
• 51:59
  it's just yet another classic example of the illogical process that the NC double A
• 52:07
  uses in these enforcement cases. I mean, there is no linear process that
• 52:14
  you can follow. It is arbitrary, it is I mean, Bill self
• 52:17
  started off with five level one violations when this began, five level ones,
• 52:23
  and when it was finalized he had one level three. And they told me,
• 52:30
  my folks at Kansas told me what they were going to do when this
• 52:35
  was happening. They said, just keep slow playing it, just keep slow
• 52:38
  playing it. Take it to court. Threatn you're going to do court threatning
• 52:42
  you to court, and you just basically you wear them down. You wear
• 52:45
  them down, you wear them down. And so it's another huge black mark
• 52:51
  as far as the way in the process that the NC double A works.
• 52:55
  It again, it takes away from the organization. People look at it,
• 53:00
  as you said, coaches just kind of shake their head and laugh. And
• 53:04
  it's just this lack of any kind of consistency that you can't trust it.
• 53:10
  And as a result, when you don't have trust and an entity, it
• 53:14
  begins to lose its power and its effectiveness. And that's what we continue to
• 53:17
  see. Yeah, and a lot of it. And I've said this before,
• 53:20
  so I won't rehash or plow the same ground I've plowed before as someone
• 53:22
  that worked in that industry in athletic departments when compliance was a big deal from
• 53:27
  the local level, so to speak, when the individual schools held their own
• 53:30
  employees and coaches accountable for compliance, which is not the tenor now for a
• 53:35
  lot of schools. In fact, we've seen it throughout this entire investigation of
• 53:38
  multiple schools, the school itself doubling down and protecting the coach that did the
• 53:44
  wrongdoing and saying no, no, he didn't do that, he didn't do
• 53:45
  that, and doubling down against that. So, of course the NCAA is
• 53:50
  ineffective in enforcement because the local schools that are the NCAAA aren't enforcing their own
• 53:55
  rules. So how can that random body out in Indianapolis. But I will
• 54:00
  say again, then, why is anybody playing by the rules? Why why
• 54:05
  are you sitting around waiting to see what they say about Rayquon Battle? Yeah,
• 54:08
  come out to that. And again, I know this is easy for
• 54:10
  me to say, and Ren Baker can't actually do this, Hoppy. I
• 54:15
  get the constraints that you operate within when you're a member of that organization that
• 54:19
  we're not operating within. But by god, how are you not ready to
• 54:22
  fire a letter off today or a press release saying we have approved ourselves.
• 54:25
  Our own compliance office at WU has approved wa Rayquon Battles waiver and he will
• 54:30
  be playing this year. Best of luck to everybody, thanks for having us
• 54:34
  encia. Well you saw in North Carolina put the chips in. That's what
• 54:37
  they did to get their football and every kind of lawsuit and everything and get
• 54:39
  the Attorney General involved. They get everything and then just like, yeah,
• 54:44
  well think about that would be maddening kerchabll. How do you reconcile that if
• 54:47
  you're a school and you watch this going on, and you know what's going
• 54:51
  on, and you have to sit there and go, okay, yeah,
• 54:53
  we'll listen to what you say. How how possibly can you you that you
• 54:58
  can't because of of the injustice that exists in the way that these rules are
• 55:05
  enforced. I mean, think about this. Why do most people follow the
• 55:08
  law? Most people follow the law because a they have a sense they have
• 55:14
  a moral code that tells them right from wrong and we would be wrong to
• 55:19
  do that. Okay, there's a moral code. And the second thing is
• 55:21
  that also they realize that people get arrested for doing certain things, that there
• 55:27
  are consequences for doing certain things or breaking the lall okay, So that's why
• 55:30
  we have the rule of law and we have a general observation of the walls.
• 55:35
  But if you look at college sports, first of all, I'm not
• 55:37
  sure there is a moral code, okay among a lot of these schools.
• 55:39
  And second of all, if there's not some regular enforcement, what the heck?
• 55:45
  Why then would you be motivated even if you didn't have the moral issue,
• 55:47
  why would you be motivated to follow the law? You see what I'm
• 55:51
  saying. One hundred percent? So one hundred percent. And I think you're
• 55:54
  at that second point. Now, what's the penalty for playing a player that
• 55:59
  ultimately is deemed in eligible? What happens? Anybody lose their job over that?
• 56:01
  Now you did, he may lose their job over that? No,
• 56:04
  no, no, they did some wins. Okay, yes, so it
• 56:06
  doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Did Kansas did all those players from the
• 56:08
  twenty seven to twenty eighteen team that got final four rings that they give those
• 56:13
  rings back to And by the way, are they still And by the way,
• 56:15
  what just came out today? Kansas is predicted to win the league.
• 56:20
  There's nobody, there's no asterisk to that. There's no one to say,
• 56:23
  well, Kansas is not eligible to win the league because it's because of something.
• 56:27
  It's it's pro wrestling, dude, it's pro wrest Brad. But Brad,
• 56:30
  bring up I want you to make another point, Bray, that we
• 56:32
  talked about this last night, that you did make a good point on behalf
• 56:37
  of not dropping the hammer on Kansas. Yeah, so here's why. Here
• 56:40
  is So if I'm arguing both sides and on the NCA group, I would
• 56:44
  say this, and it's part of why if you want to evaluate legal strategy,
• 56:49
  Carolina still sits as the ultimate when they got nabbed for having sham fake
• 56:52
  classes that athletes were in, right, but they just flat out made it
• 56:55
  up because super benefit to athletes because we had regular students, and that we
• 57:01
  were giving degrees away too. One of the all time great legal argument loopholes
• 57:06
  that day North Carolina is that right, we just give away degrees to everybody,
• 57:09
  regular students, and that's not an extra benefit. You can't sit in
• 57:13
  a museum by itself of the all time great you think you got me,
• 57:16
  you're thinking you don't have me now because guess what we did. We gave
• 57:19
  it away to all students. You can't arrest me for speeding because everybody speeds.
• 57:23
  Me from Ashville got a free degree as well, without ever having to
• 57:27
  go to class. So that's an all timer. This was a smart strategy
• 57:30
  by Kansas. Drag your feet prolong it stop it, don't talk to them,
• 57:35
  takes a while, get gone one year, two year, three year,
• 57:38
  four year, and four years later. Now it's just pay for play.
• 57:42
  Everybody gets paid. So how could the NCAA have come out now and
• 57:45
  said, you know what, Bill self, you're on probation for the rest
• 57:47
  of your life, Kansas. Everybody's fired, Kansas. You will never plan
• 57:51
  an NCAA tournamgain for twenty years. You're all on pation for paying players win
• 57:54
  right now? What are you doing, Hopey, whatleg players? You're paying
• 57:57
  players? So it was it was if you want to take it from that
• 58:00
  standpoint, and if if a law school wants to study great lawyer ing,
• 58:06
  it was great lawyering. Yeah, it was great lawyering. Yeah they played
• 58:08
  them, do it? I mean? And you se yeah, brand I
• 58:10
  think that's a really good point because there would people be going like, yeah,
• 58:14
  it was wrong, but how can you punish them now for what everybody
• 58:16
  is doing. I think that's a great point that people would go that doesn't
• 58:20
  seem fair. So for all my bluster and screaming that, I'm sure that's
• 58:22
  what the answer is from that committee, and that, by the way,
• 58:25
  no longer exists. This was the final They pulled the door shut of the
• 58:29
  conference room as they were walking out, Tony, how was that group that
• 58:30
  came that was supposed to be real. So they shut the door behind them,
• 58:34
  kind of like the close of a TV series. That was their final
• 58:37
  act. They just shut the door and walked and said, we're out.
• 58:38
  We'll have no further comment. But you had the the investigation was to paying
• 58:43
  a player, and it takes four years? How does it take four years
• 58:47
  and not four weeks? Slow played them? They just kept the slow played.
• 58:52
  The federal government didn't get anywhere with this either. They made a big
• 58:54
  production of all of this and they put they put a couple assistant coaches in
• 59:00
  jail over it. Are you like, you know who's pissed? You know
• 59:01
  who should be really pissed? Assistant to jail jail over this book? One
• 59:07
  book? Oklahoma State should be blowing the doors off their whole operation right now.
• 59:13
  You talk about the one school that got hit and had to set out
• 59:15
  postseason? Is that Oklahoma State? And I'm not I'm not here to be
• 59:19
  an Oklahoma State cowboy day, but my god, I would be hot if
• 59:22
  i'm then, And if I was one of those guys that went to jail
• 59:24
  over this book? Are you kidding me? Those books? The Rifleman Chuck
• 59:29
  Person also went book Richardson Richardson, they went to jail over this prison,
• 59:34
  federal prison. Huh we got breaking news? Well, what breaking news?
• 59:40
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  Some sweating. You have me sweating during our coverage, just the yelling
• 1:01:44
  about this thing you take on Kansas. It was great. By the way,
• 1:01:46
  If you can't carry your own banner into the coliseum, I don't think
• 1:01:49
  they allow that anymore. It didn't before. If you can't carry your own
• 1:01:51
  banner in there, We're gonna work on th stre. What we need is
• 1:01:53
  a right hang the banner hashtagh the Mountaineer maniacs. Yeah, we need to
• 1:02:00
  tie them one, I know, but you really can't. You're not allowed
• 1:02:04
  to bring banners in. It's see, you're back to your Earth leg department.
• 1:02:07
  Down it Randy from State perfect and they should just just hang it.
• 1:02:13
  I mean why not. I mean, look, you play here's the here's
• 1:02:15
  the equivalent. I'm sorry, Tony, you played Sweet Caroline during the pit
• 1:02:22
  game, right, yeah, they did that. That sort of opens the
• 1:02:25
  door. That opens the door for this kind of stuff. Here's the other
• 1:02:30
  thing. I mean, I know you vacate the wins, but but the
• 1:02:34
  schools that lost still hang the L. Right, they don't get a scrub
• 1:02:37
  the l's from their record. Clubs just carrying around extra l's from that cancer
• 1:02:43
  program, carrying around extra l's. They don't have the win, but you
• 1:02:45
  take the L. That's also nuts too, that's illogical. It is illogical.
• 1:02:52
  If you subtract a win, then the game didn't count the game,
• 1:02:57
  right, the game the game. I'm right on that. Correct. Losses
• 1:03:00
  aren't vacating, no, no losses stay. Yeah, West Virginia's not changed
• 1:03:04
  in its record today. As by the way, Hoppy referred to the Big
• 1:03:09
  Twelve poll from the coaches, Kansas was one newcomer, Houston two, West
• 1:03:14
  Virginia nine, West Virginia nine. Preseason. Yeah, and I have more
• 1:03:19
  football texts, by the way, so we'll the basketball real quick. It's
• 1:03:22
  a good spot for West Virginia. If that it won't hold in that order,
• 1:03:27
  breaking news. It will not hold in that order. If it does,
• 1:03:30
  West Virginia is squarely in the mix for an NCAA tournament. Bent If
• 1:03:32
  you're ninth in this league, you're going to be around it coming down the
• 1:03:35
  stretch. More on that. You got him in the in the show already.
• 1:03:38
  No, no, I just said, if those standings were to hold,
• 1:03:42
  you're going to have eight or nine teams that are going to be in
• 1:03:44
  the mix for the Big Twelve or for the NCAA tournament. Tony would like
• 1:03:46
  to continue. Randy from State College. I think I said his name sixteen
• 1:03:51
  times right now. Second half, twelve possessions, eight touchdowns. Good for
• 1:03:57
  TV, I know, But great offense are bad defense. I know you
• 1:04:00
  can cop out and say a little bit of both, but let's face it,
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  that was not my homes out there for either team. Bad defense,
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  really bad I love the show. Jay in Asheville, North Carolina, Aaron
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  Rodgers said it best. R E l a X Relax. This WVU team
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  is tough. A gut punch won't knock them out. Go Mountaineers. Aaron
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  Rodgers said it best. I was just on the McAfee show, Where's My
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  check? Who had that song? Relaxed that Frankie does Hollywood Relax? How
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  do you know that? How do you not liking music? And he always
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  wants to teut that he was a DJ. I also dj' back in the
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  days of carts Hollywood in true World Champion Mountaineer form. We have lost a
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  game that we should have won. I'd forgotten that while I asked for us
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  to be competitive that usually comes with anxiety inducing final minutes. I'll no,
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  not soon forget it. Four and two still better than what a lot of
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  us had. So let's move on. Focus on the schedule ahead, Texter
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  her beyond the sun coming up. When I got into my car this morning,
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  first song I hear on XM Country Roads Country Roads is on all as
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  well? Good start today? Oh my, what's happening? Uh? As
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  we always tell you, folks at Go mart are unbelievable. Go for good
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  times. Recy cups stuff. You got RecA cup stuff? Yeah? From
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  where Daniels, I never saw these ones. Reces makes footballs. Did you
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  know this? No football the shapes here, Yeah, I'll take those.
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  Thank you. A bunch of stuff this is from This is nice. You
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  can get anything you need, you can get it. I have no idea
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  what this is. These footballs are going to be awesome because they're basically the
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  eggs. They've just put the laces on there and you know, much discussed
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  perfect ression. My favorite of all the shapes, the original dude. Look
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  at that mug. Oh that's a nice mug. Yeah, this is a
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  Joel longtime P one listener, sent us this. But he wanted to let
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  us know that go to Gomart you can get all these receis. I don't.
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  I'm not saying they sell the mug, but he sent us candy from
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  from there. Is what you're saying. You got some of those reasons mug
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  not included. But anyway, don't forget. We tape on Friday Saturday,
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  of course would be tomorrow, and you can get triple rewards points in the
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  gomart dot com, sign up for the rewards card and they will triple your
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  points starting tomorrow. Texter Tyler not from Tyler County. Lately, I had
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  some free time and I stumbled across an artificial intelligence image generator. So I
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  wondered what could possibly happen if I entered the prompt three guys before the Game
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  podcast West Virginia Mountaineers scopes spreads hoppy illustration. Safe to say the results did
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  not disappoint. Hopefully you clowns get as much of a laugh from these as
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  I get from Brad jumping on Tony for over promising stuff at the food court.
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  Thanks for the laugh, laughs, an insight. Can't wait for episode
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  eight hundred. So that's hoppy, now hoppy, that's called artificial intelligence.
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  Now that's AI. That's A. That's a cool shot. If that looked
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  anything like us, Maybe it looks a little bit like you, although you
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  don't have a beard. Yeah, it was all the same guy. That's
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  A. That's a cool image. Though you could refine those You could now
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  put in there and go, hey, there's one without beards. When did
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  Reyese Davis get on the podcast Far Right Davis ESPN on the podcast Oh boy,
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  So thanks very much for doing that. They missed it. Yeah,
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  okay, misspelled guy, mispelled guys. Here's the perfect efforting. Yeah,
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  they're efforting, So thanks very much for doing that. Willie G. From
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  Elkview, longtime listener. Second time I've texted watching the latest episode regarding cowboy
• 1:08:12
  Hats. I was at Stone roll Stone Wall Resort last March for my anniversary.
• 1:08:16
  A plethora of people in cowboy hats, cowboy boots, large belt buckles.
• 1:08:20
  I assume they're there with the West Virginia Cattleman's or the West Virginia Farm
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  Bureau Convention or something like that. Out of curiosity, I eventually looked at
• 1:08:29
  the events list for the weekend. Came to find out it was the West
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  Virginia Auctioneers Convention. Oh. My thought was, Tony needs to be here,
• 1:08:36
  but he'd need a whole new wardrobe. Well, now that we know
• 1:08:40
  that you don't look like a total Yankee city slicker and a cowboy hat,
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  you could attend the West Virginia Who's West Virginia Auctioneer's Convention and fit right in
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  Love the show hopes for eight hundred plus. Don't forget friendly people at the
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  Elkview Exit nine Gomart for your coffee induced pee breaks and fly Rod slim gems.
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  They're there. Perfect. You've probably blood for the alk vi of Gomart,
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  been to that one hop, You've probably stopped there at the Gomart.
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  Oh. Yes, it's kind of like that oasis right before Charleston when you're
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  leaving Charleston's kind of here it is. It's just because that's a critical point
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  for me. Am I going to be able to make it to Charleston?
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  No, I gotta stop and then on the return trip, I'm gonna stop
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  here first, get some snacks, get out in front of it, go
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  for good times, go for Gomart. Daniel's. So the food court's all
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  set for Oklahoma State? Oh is it? Food courts already? Oklahoma State?
• 1:09:33
  Excuse me? It's good to go, right, I think it's good
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  to go. So you're confirming it, well, not denying it. I'm
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  not that's a better way to say that. Not denying it. All right,
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  something down you for over promising the plan is to have it, Yes,
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  yeah, eight am to three, Okay, sure, eight am to
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  three working for new food options. If the food options come through that I
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  was told it is nice. Well tell me what they are so I can
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  over promise them. I haven't heard. I don't remember, but they're good.
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  Give me ref keV gonna be there. Yeah, he's doing it.
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  Yeah. And Kerchevale excellent. The Staples got to stop at the Kroger.
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  You can get it at the Kroger. Kerchvale available now at the law supply
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  lasts P one listener, I'm a first time Texter heading to the Oklahoma game
• 1:10:20
  with some dudes staying in Oklahoma City. Need a dinner recommendation. Also,
• 1:10:27
  this could be a great segment leading up to road games, give recommendations,
• 1:10:30
  where to eat, what to see. Love the show, Chris harvest Ridge.
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  That is a good idea, Chris. I don't have anything right now,
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  but when we get ready for that game, I think that each week
• 1:10:39
  when we do have a road game, I'll give you like three places that
• 1:10:43
  have been that I will crowdsource for my people out there and say, okay,
• 1:10:47
  where's the where's three places you would go eat? You always do meat
• 1:10:51
  though, right, I mean you don't do. I did fish in Houston,
• 1:10:56
  did you Yeah? And it was sensation, really Chris. I went
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  to dinner with Chris Wallace, our buddy from Buchanan Houston Rockets, and he
• 1:11:05
  said, I got this. He gave me three options. There's fish place,
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  there's a good fish place. He knows food with him a hundred years
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  ago. I want to say it with Chris. I flew into uh Monroe,
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  Louisiana to do a game Monroe. Ye. And I'm walking in the
• 1:11:23
  airport and here's Chris. The airport's abot as big as this room. And
• 1:11:26
  he was in there scouting at the time for whatever NBA team he was with,
• 1:11:29
  and he says, you want to go eat? Said yeah. So
• 1:11:30
  I'm doing the game with Jim Spinarkle. Yeah. So I said, hey,
• 1:11:34
  Jim, you want to come eat my He goes yeah. So Wallace
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  knows all these places. He brings us to the seafood place, I mean
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  classic Cajun seafood place. They put up the big brown oh yeah on the
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  table, the paper they dumped on their Yeah. So you know, Chris
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  and I like we rolled the sleeves up and like we're ready to go face
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  in Jim, you know, Duke guy, wasn't his deal? Not so
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  much? Kind of looked at us like, what situation? Did I just
• 1:12:01
  get here? And Chris just brought that up when we were eating there this
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  week seafood. Huh that's the low Country way? Yeah, right correct?
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  But it was it was absolutely sensational. I crushed it. It was really
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  really good. Is that the same thing you had at where you went in
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  Houston? No? I got redfish at this place that. Yeah. Point
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  of clarification, are you going to remember to bring the Oklahoma recommendations or does
• 1:12:24
  Chris have to rescend that text? Thank you? Recend that the week that
• 1:12:29
  we go to uh Oklahoma mining Because I've had limited sleep and as a result,
• 1:12:33
  I'm like I spent most of the beginning of the show telling Hoppy to
• 1:12:38
  get closer to his mic because I kept jamming his volume up on his mic
• 1:12:41
  volume, I realized I was I was bringing Brad's mic up instead. Why
• 1:12:45
  isn't Hoppy's voice getting louder? I keep putting, Oh, that's not Hoppies,
• 1:12:48
  sorry, Mike. Situation over there? Did you just a teening little
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  that? Never? I mean, I'm no, you were you were on
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  it but I kept lifting his and your volume wouldn't go up, and I
• 1:12:58
  going, what heck's going on here? As usual, he is accusing someone
• 1:13:00
  else of having the mic problem, when in fact the mic problem resided.
• 1:13:03
  I mean he got what times you get back? Got the better after five?
• 1:13:09
  Yeah, about the first time he's traveling. Done show? I mean,
• 1:13:11
  I know. But he's tired, all right, so schedule schedule,
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  Yeah he is schedule wise, since we're doing this on Friday, I'm tired.
• 1:13:21
  I'm not coming in today. How would you handle that? Our next
• 1:13:24
  show is we're all here. Our next show is Thursday. We will preview
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  you West Virginia Oklahoma State and Brad will have all of the details on the
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  food court for next week, which opens at eight a m. Next to
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  Daniels and as Brad has promised, new food options are going to be available
• 1:13:42
  and we'd love to see you there. Give me a hint food type?
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  Food type? I don't I don't remember, all right, it's a good
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  deposition. I don't recall, really actually don't remember saying what's wrong? You
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  tires are both very good? Oh, by the I'll do it next show.
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  Remind me, remind me. On the other stuff. Also, speaking
• 1:14:05
  of forgetting stuff, we got an additional package of delivery that had some recent
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  peanut bread cups that I forgot to bring in, but we'll do that Thursday,
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