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259. Emma Lovewell, Peloton Instructor · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 1: What happens when you do nothing is nothing happens. So
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  Speaker 1: you got to do something right. You can't just like
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  Speaker 1: sit around and wait for your opportunity to just knock
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  Speaker 1: down your door, like you have to put yourself out
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  Speaker 1: there in some way.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on, everybody?
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  Speaker 3: Emily Badi here.
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  Speaker 4: You are listening to episode two hundred and fifty nine
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  Speaker 4: of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast where I connect with
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  Speaker 4: everyone from your favorite athletes to top experts and industry
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  Speaker 4: CEOs about their highest highs, toughest moments, and everything in between.
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  Speaker 4: We all go through hurdles in life, and my goal
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  Speaker 4: through these discussions is to empower you to better navigate
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  Speaker 4: yours and move with intention so that you can stride
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  Speaker 4: towards your own big potential and of course have some
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  Speaker 4: fun along the way.
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  Speaker 3: For today's episode two fifty.
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  Speaker 4: Nine, I am chatting with the one only Emma love Well.
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  Speaker 4: Emma's a Peloton instructor. She's also a new author. Her book, Live, Learn,
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  Speaker 4: Love Well is available everywhere books are sold. I will
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  Speaker 4: link it in the show notes, and for today's conversation,
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  Speaker 4: we are getting to know the woman behind the pages.
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  Speaker 4: Emma talks to me about growing up on Martha's vineyard
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  Speaker 4: and really admiring her parents' work ethic from a young age,
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  Speaker 4: her mother and immigrants raising her to go after her
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  Speaker 4: big dreams, and big dreams she definitely had and has.
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  Speaker 3: Moving forward.
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  Speaker 4: In today's conversation, Emma talks to me about how she
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  Speaker 4: came to Peloton, working in the fitness industry and learning
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  Speaker 4: to find comfort in the uncertainty of gig work. Telling
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  Speaker 4: us a story about the photoshoot just at the beginning
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  Speaker 4: of the Peloton era that changed everything for her, Emma
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  Speaker 4: gets really honest about the highs and lows of being
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  Speaker 4: a public person. She also shares what the book writing
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  Speaker 4: a Process was truly like and how sending one particular
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  Speaker 4: email was the catalyst for some of her best days.
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  Speaker 4: I loved so many things about this conversation, but Emma
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  Speaker 4: has a really calm demeanor, and it was really admirable
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  Speaker 4: to sit here with her and watch her be where
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  Speaker 4: her feet were at the moment, entirely present for our conversation,
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  Speaker 4: despite just coming from Cheddar that's a news outlet for
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  Speaker 4: some of you that may not know, and also running
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  Speaker 4: around Gosh everywhere promoting this book.
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  Speaker 3: She's a ray of light.
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  Speaker 4: It's not lost on me that many of you already
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  Speaker 4: share the same sentiments, so I know you're gonna love
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  Speaker 4: this conversation. Make sure you're following along with Hurdle over
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  Speaker 4: on social It is at Hurdle Podcast. I myself am
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  Speaker 4: over at Emily a Body. There are tons of actionable
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  Speaker 4: takeaways and tips in this conversation, so I'd love it
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  Speaker 4: With that, let's get to it. Let's get to hurdling.
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  Speaker 3: Today.
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  Speaker 4: I am sitting down with Emma love Well. She's a
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  Speaker 4: Peloton instructor also a new author her book.
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  Speaker 3: Live Learn, Love Well Out. Now.
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  Speaker 2: How you doing, I'm great, Thanks for having me, Emily.
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  Speaker 4: You're a ray of sunshine in here today with your
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  Speaker 4: or is this what we call this bright orange?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like a highlighter though it's
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  Speaker 2: very very bright.
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  Speaker 4: As someone who lives in mostly black yeah, sometimes you
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  Speaker 4: just got to break out like that.
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  Speaker 1: That's I'm either black or like some really obnoxious loud
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  Speaker 1: knee on color.
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm like no in between.
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  Speaker 3: There's no in between.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'm so glad that you've made time to come
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  Speaker 4: into the studio today because you have been everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: You're like, where am I right now?
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  Speaker 2: With the put to my end?
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  Speaker 3: How are you feeling at this moment?
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  Speaker 1: I'm feeling good. I'm feeling a little bit less chaotic
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  Speaker 1: than I was. If you asked me that about two
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  Speaker 1: weeks ago. But I think this whole book tour journey
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  Speaker 1: has been exhausting and very exciting, and now I'm kind
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  Speaker 1: of on the come down of that.
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  Speaker 2: So you're catching me. I had a good time.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I can reflect on what I just went
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  Speaker 1: through and also feel kind of grounded and present.
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  Speaker 4: Now we love that you're feeling grounded in present for
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  Speaker 4: this conversation and reflecting. I mean, first pitch at the
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  Speaker 4: Red Sox game, book tour, trip to Italy, London, Cheddar,
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  Speaker 4: ABC News, all of this stuff over the last month
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  Speaker 4: and a half.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, does it feel surreal?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I think I went from you know, I
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  Speaker 1: had never done a TV appearance where I was talking.
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  Speaker 1: I've done TV appearances where I'm working out, but then
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  Speaker 1: sitting in a suit or a dress was different. And
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  Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, I've done like ten different segments,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So it's kind of cool. I never would
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  Speaker 1: have thought that, you know if you asked me that
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  Speaker 1: twenty years ago. Learning Curve, Yeah, I've learned to speak
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  Speaker 1: a lot faster.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, you have three minutes, sell your book, go,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like.
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  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, And that's like something that one would imagine
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  Speaker 4: be a little bit flustering.
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  Speaker 3: It's flustering even a word. We're gonna use it.
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  Speaker 2: I agree, I agree. But that's why now I'm like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we can kind of. We've got an hour together, we
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  Speaker 2: can kind of. I don't have to sell you this
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  Speaker 2: book in ten seconds.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god. Okay, So speaking faster.
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  Speaker 1: Another thing I'll say is my posture. I was looking
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  Speaker 1: at past videos of me sitting on you know, CBS Morning,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, gosh, like my back is hunched. And
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  Speaker 1: so now I'm like in these interviews and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: remember your posture, shoulders back, like back to dance class,
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  Speaker 1: having good posture.
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  Speaker 3: Which is also comical because although you teach multiple modalities
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  Speaker 3: on peloton, your main modality involves you to be leaning
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  Speaker 3: forward quite often.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly, my comfort is me hunched over handle blogs. That's
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  Speaker 1: like where I'm comfortable.
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  Speaker 3: Do you get over back pain from that?
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, I do a pretty good job at cross training,
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  Speaker 1: So I think my focus when I'm doing strength training
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  Speaker 1: is always my back.
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  Speaker 2: It's always polls, lots.
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  Speaker 3: Of polls pulls. That's a good hot tip I know
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  Speaker 3: for me.
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  Speaker 4: Right now, getting back into a lot of cycling as
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  Speaker 4: a method of cross training. For marathon training, I'm reminded
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  Speaker 4: of the importance of the seat adjustment and making sure
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  Speaker 4: that my bike alignment is okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you have to switch it every once in
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  Speaker 1: a while because and I tell people that in my
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  Speaker 1: peloton classes too, it's like, just switch it up a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, like bring the seat a little bit closer
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  Speaker 1: or further away, like just see how it feels, because
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  Speaker 1: it might feel better.
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  Speaker 3: This is a hot tip.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's funny because even as you sat down today,
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  Speaker 4: you were like, yes, we were just at Cheddar and
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  Speaker 4: now we're here and then I'm going to teach a
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  Speaker 4: class later. Is there a part of the multi hyphen it,
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  Speaker 4: let's call it, that feels most true to you at
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  Speaker 4: this moment between peloton, instructor, author, and all of the
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  Speaker 4: other things that you get into on the regular.
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  Speaker 1: No, but I'm really loving how they all are coming together.
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  Speaker 1: And in these interviews, I'm talking about my daily life
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  Speaker 1: and my career and my aspirations and they all are
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  Speaker 1: part of me and it all fits together. So it
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  Speaker 1: is really to know that, like, not one thing feels
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  Speaker 1: like it doesn't belong you. Know, this is like the
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  Speaker 1: Sesame Street song of like one of these things is
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  Speaker 1: not like the other, you know, that's.
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  Speaker 2: All I'm like, these are all like me. These are
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  Speaker 2: all part of me.
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  Speaker 1: It's so cool that I get to use my experience
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  Speaker 1: teaching fitness in front of millions of people to now
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  Speaker 1: speaking on podcasts and TV segments and other places. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing a lot more public speaking too, and so
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  Speaker 1: it's just cool that they all it all fits in
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  Speaker 1: and it's all relevant.
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  Speaker 3: Do you have a go to keynote topic?
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people want to hear about my morning
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  Speaker 1: routine or just routines and goal setting. So I feel
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  Speaker 1: like that is a huge, a very popular topic that
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is how I stay motivated, This is
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  Speaker 1: how I you know, what I eat in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: This is what I do? Yeah, and yeah, do you?
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  Speaker 4: I would say that I'm laughing a little bit because
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  Speaker 4: I really do think that between goal setting and mornings
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  Speaker 4: like those are the two buzzy things that people feel
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  Speaker 4: as though they are incapable of getting down for themselves.
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  Speaker 3: So always hunting the hot tips.
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  Speaker 4: I'd be remiss if we didn't move forward then, and
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  Speaker 4: I asked you for a morning hot tip.
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  Speaker 3: So what do you got for me?
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: So I always I think that my morning starts the
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  Speaker 1: night before. Actually, so if I'm trying to do a
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  Speaker 1: workout in the morning, I try to set out my
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  Speaker 1: clothes the night before because I think that that's really helpful.
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  Speaker 1: I can't use my brain very well in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: so the less thinking I do, the better. So if
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  Speaker 1: my outfits out for me, that's great. I also start
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  Speaker 1: with a big glass of water for at thing in morning.
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  Speaker 1: I just have to hi, I am terrible at drinking water,
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  Speaker 1: to be honest, so I have to start my day
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  Speaker 1: with a glass of water and then that I'm not
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  Speaker 1: like chasing hydration the rest of.
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  Speaker 3: The day important.
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  Speaker 4: And that decision fatigue, Yes, the second that decision fatigue
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  Speaker 4: presents itself in the morning, it's an immediate opportunity to
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  Speaker 4: bow out of the things that you originally wanted. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, so you now have to tell me your tip.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the decision fatigue is a really great tip.
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  Speaker 4: I totally agree. But also knowing what it is that
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  Speaker 4: you want to get into, even there's a difference between
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  Speaker 4: saying to yourself, all right, I'm going to set aside
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  Speaker 4: forty five minutes to work out versus I'm going to
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  Speaker 4: set aside forty five minutes to do this strength workout,
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  Speaker 4: and I already know what strength workout I'm going to
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  Speaker 4: get into, or this run, and I know what the
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  Speaker 4: run is supposed to be, what the intention is here,
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  Speaker 4: Because again, the less decisions you have to make, the
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  Speaker 4: more autopilot you can be on the better.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll yes, I'll say too, Like even as a
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  Speaker 1: fitness trainer, I make class plans and workouts and I
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  Speaker 1: do not want to make my own class plan or workout. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I get decision fatigue because I don't even want to
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  Speaker 1: I don't even want to train myself.
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  Speaker 3: I get hit same, same, I totally hear that.
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  Speaker 4: So to hit on this note again, we talked about
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  Speaker 4: all of the press that you've been doing, all of
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  Speaker 4: the interviews that you've been doing. I guess a goal
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  Speaker 4: of mine for us sitting down here today is to
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  Speaker 4: talk about something.
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  Speaker 3: You haven't talked about yet.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, through this conversation, I feel as though we have
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  Speaker 4: an opportunity to peel back into layer right to Shrek
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  Speaker 4: like an onion here and like get to a new
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  Speaker 4: place where you haven't been before. You mentioned being so
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  Speaker 4: excited about the fact that you have the opportunity to
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  Speaker 4: really indulge in all these different aspects of the multi
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  Speaker 4: hyphen it.
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  Speaker 3: What we do know, however, is that you really.
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  Speaker 4: Did start this journey, at least in your professional career
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  Speaker 4: here rooted in fitness and fitness modeling. Talk to me
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  Speaker 4: a little bit about that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I grew up as a dancer, so I
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  Speaker 1: was in a lifelong athlete. I played sports soccer, lacrosse
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  Speaker 1: as a kid. But when I moved to New York City, initially,
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  Speaker 1: so I went to school, I studied Chinese and communications,
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  Speaker 1: and I studied abroad in Beijing, and I actually thought
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  Speaker 1: I would move to Beijing, and I don't know, do whatever,
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  Speaker 1: but I was like in love with my time study
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  Speaker 1: a broad time there. But then my senior year, I
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  Speaker 1: did an internship in New York City and I worked
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  Speaker 1: for a theater doing marketing, and I worked for a
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  Speaker 1: dance company, and I just fell in love with New
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  Speaker 1: York City. So I also didn't I think I was
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  Speaker 1: a good enough dancer to dance professionally, to be honest,
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  Speaker 1: But when I was interning in the city, I went
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  Speaker 1: on a couple dance auditions because I heard about them,
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  Speaker 1: and I ended up booking a couple gigs. I booked
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  Speaker 1: a music video with b York, which I was like,
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  Speaker 1: this is so cool. And then I danced at the
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  Speaker 1: MTVUU Woody Awards Live as a backup dancer, and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, wait, I can book work like this is incredible.
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  Speaker 1: So I moved to New York City to pursue being
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  Speaker 1: a professional dancer, which is like such a hard thing
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  Speaker 1: to do. It's just so competitive, and they don't the
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  Speaker 1: jobs don't pay well.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: At that time, it was like, hey, do you want
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  Speaker 1: to be in like a JAYZ video? It doesn't pay,
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  Speaker 1: but it's great exposure, and I was like, what are
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  Speaker 1: you kidding me? Exposure doesn't pay my bills. And so
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  Speaker 1: through dance came.
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  Speaker 2: Fitness modeling opportunities. So it was like, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, backup person on hip hop abs or like these
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  Speaker 1: fitness magazines or whatever. You're good at moving your body,
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  Speaker 1: you're good at following direction and so and there were
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  Speaker 1: more of those jobs, and to be transparent, they paid
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  Speaker 1: a lot better, and so I was like, let me
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  Speaker 1: lean in this direction a little bit so I can
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  Speaker 1: pay my rent and work more and then I as
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  Speaker 1: a lifelong athlete. I'd been, you know, exercising my whole life.
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  Speaker 1: So I had a lot of friends in the industry,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that's just sort of yeah, but fitness
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  Speaker 1: modeling was like a big thing at that time. I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking like twenty ten around that time, where all the
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  Speaker 1: brands and all the magazines needed people who could demonstrate
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  Speaker 1: what a squat looked like, what a lunge looked like.
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  Speaker 1: So it was a big part of my start in fitness.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And it's so interesting to hear you say, knowing how
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  Speaker 4: you feel now about the importance of just starting, and
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  Speaker 4: trying to hear you say I didn't feel as though
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  Speaker 4: I was a good enough dancer. Did you have any
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  Speaker 4: reason to believe that at that time?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I have a spreadsheet, I can give you all
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  Speaker 1: these pointers. Why but I dancers start dancing at like
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  Speaker 1: five years old. Yeah, right, So I didn't do ballet
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  Speaker 1: until I was like thirteen, and that's that's late. You're
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  Speaker 1: like late to the party if you're thirteen and starting
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  Speaker 1: to dance. And so I just knew I didn't have
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  Speaker 1: enough time and experience and then so technique flexibility, I'd
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  Speaker 1: be in these auditions and seeing these girls younger than
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  Speaker 1: me just like absolutely killing it. But then what I
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  Speaker 1: realized is it's not all just technique. It's stage presence,
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  Speaker 1: it's your look, it's how you interpret movement on your
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  Speaker 1: body that a choreographer might like gravitate towards you. And
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  Speaker 1: so I knew that I wouldn't book the job because
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  Speaker 1: I was the best dancer in the room, but I
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  Speaker 1: knew I might book it because I had great stage presents.
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  Speaker 3: How did that make you feel?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, just being told no all the time.
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  Speaker 1: It was heartbreaking. And a lot of my best girlfriends
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  Speaker 1: were dancers too, so there'd be like five of us
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  Speaker 1: all in this room of one hundred women. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we're trying to get three spots, you know, getting cut,
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  Speaker 1: but then my friend making it all the way to
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  Speaker 1: the end or you know, vice versa. It was very hard,
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  Speaker 1: but a lot of good life lessons in that, Like
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  Speaker 1: you just like perseverance, resilience for sure, just being told no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: and still getting up and doing it again.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so valuable to have this understanding that being
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  Speaker 4: someone else's cheerleader doesn't dim.
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  Speaker 3: Your opportunities or you're late.
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  Speaker 4: And I would assume that that lesson is one that
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  Speaker 4: you've had to carry with you into your time At Peloton,
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  Speaker 4: we're talking about such an overwhelming all star roster of individuals,
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  Speaker 4: all of whom are getting their own brand deals, their
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  Speaker 4: own opportunities.
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  Speaker 3: I think there were like five Peloton books this year.
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  Speaker 4: Totally totally, So how do you carry that lesson with
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  Speaker 4: you in your day to day?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 1: It totally stays with me, and I actually think back
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  Speaker 1: to those friendships that I had when I was a dancer.
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  Speaker 1: There was actually so there was four of us girls
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  Speaker 1: that were all brunette, around the same height. So when
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about cast typing, right, you'd go to a
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  Speaker 1: commercial audition, they need a black girl, a Latina girl,
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: a white girl, and so we would all be like
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: the same cast type. And it was hard because we
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: would all book different things. One of my friends, I swear,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: she booked everything and I had to really like but
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: I loved her and I was supportive of her, and
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: she was so such a good friend to me. But
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: I think that we kind of it was like an
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: unspoken rule that we all just decided to be incredibly
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: honest with each other. So no secrets like Hey, just
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: you know I'm on hold for this gig. I know
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: you were there too, but I just wanted you to
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: know I got the call that I'm on hold.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: So I'm not like, hey, did you did you book? Oh?
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Like you booked it and you didn't tell me, Like
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I think we just became really honest and that was
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: helpful because I can deal with honesty. I can, you know,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: and I can respect honesty, and so yeah, this day, Like,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: my teammates are absolute rock stars. I think though, One
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: thing that I have really kept with me is that
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: we are all so different and even separate from my
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: group of friends where we're all the same cast type,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: like all the Peloton instructors, We're all very different cast types.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: So we have very different brands. We have very different
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: opportunities coming to us too, and I think some of
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: them crossover for sure, But a lot of the opportunities
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I see for my coworkers, I'm like, no, that fits them.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: It's very rare that I'm like, that should have been me. Like,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: it's mostly like no, no, no, that fits them so well.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: They are so good for that gig or that job
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: or that brand partner. So I think that that helps
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: me also, like, really stay true to who I am
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: because I know that the things that and the opportunities
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: that come to me are right for me.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, What advice do you offer to someone who may
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: be struggling with this certain level of feeling either unsupported
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: or navigating competition and staying in their own lane? So
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: often we say that phrase like putting their own blinders
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: on and going after what serves them.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know, similar to something you said, But
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: it's like be willing to acknowledge somebody else's beauty without
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: questioning your own, like, and notice in yourself if you
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: start feeling jealous or competitive, like, notice those feelings and
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: they might come up, and that's totally fine. But I
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: think the way we get through feelings is by acknowledging
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: them first. So it's like, Okay, I'm feeling a little jealous,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I'm feeling a little this or that. Why you know,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: is it? Does it have to do with them or
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: does it have to do with me? Is it because
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I want it too? That's okay, you can want things too,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that you want ill intent on
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: somebody else, right, you know? So I do I think
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: about that acknowledge somebody else's beauty without questioning your own.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: That does not have anything to do with your self worth.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: It has a lot to do with timing and like
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: who you know and the right being in the right
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: place at the right time, and maybe it's not your time.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Yet, Yeah, acknowledging what you have. It's also so important
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: to recognize that if there is a moment or is
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: it situation where you feel as though someone may be
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: jealous or treating you some kind of way, that that treatment,
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: that response is them and their feelings and not necessarily
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: anything to do with you.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I know it goes both ways, right, because there are
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: times where I'm booking something that might make somebody else
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: feel a certain type of way. Yeah, I mean, we
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: all hope to be self aware individuals, but not everybody is.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: And so I think having grace and knowing that, like
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: everybody's going through something that you don't know anything about.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it is hard because it definitely goes both ways.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: Everyone's going through something that you don't know anything about.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: Going back to the fact that you've been on this
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: whirlwind media tour all over the place over the last month,
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: what is something that you've been navigating offline and not
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: on tour.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I'm really lucky my partner Dave came with me on
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: the book tour, and that was super helpful to have him.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I'll say that that has it's been challenging in our
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: own dynamic of our relationship, and for the most part
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: it's been great and I'm very thankful that he's been there.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: But I do think it was like this whole new
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: area that we had to step into where I'm like, okay,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: like this is you know. I was like, Dave, I'm
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: going to be super busy for the next you know,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: six weeks, Like can you just pick up.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: More of the housework.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And he was like okay, and like, thankfully I
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: have a partner like that who was like, I'm gonna
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: he started cooking dinners, like five nights a week.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: He was cooking dinner, and I'm so. You know.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: What I was glad about too, is that sometimes we
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: ask for things and then when we get them, it's
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: not actually the thing that we wanted.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Huh.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: I asked for the thing that I wanted and it
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: was actually what I wanted. Because I know that in
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: some ways you can say like no, I want a
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: guy to be really supportive. But then when you get that,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: then maybe you're like, but I didn't like that. No, no, no,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I liked it.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I liked it so much. And I was like, Dave,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: thank you for cooking dinner. Thank you. I'm so glad
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: that I asked for what I needed.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you gave that to me and
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: that and then I received it, you know, because sometimes
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: we're complicated, We're really complicated. So yeah, I think like
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: during the tour, just like having stepping into a new
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: dynamic with my partner throughout that because it was a
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: very non traditional way of us operating, like traveling from
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: city to city, figuring out home logistics. We have two
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: cats figuring out who's going to feed them. So that
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: was an interesting thing that I had to navigate that
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I wasn't even thinking about, like career wise, just like
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: my relationship.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: And what I'm hearing you say also is the importance
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: of really great communication and also recognizing that it's okay
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: to ask for something, receive it, and then maybe recommunicate
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: or pivot a little bit so that both people can
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: be happy moving forward. That is something that so often
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: you're like, well, I went out of my comfort zone
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: at this point to ask for it. So how dare
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: I ask for something else but the right person. There's
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: no such thing as over communicating or adjusting your expectations
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: so that you two can be happier together.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Yes, hard stop.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, you said before that sometimes these opportunities are
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: all about being at the right place, right time. No
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: one will question you on that. For you being at
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: the right place at the right time. Was booking that
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Kickstarter campaign with Peloton in twenty twelve. Talk to us
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: a little bit about that and how ultimately that opportunity
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: landed you at the company five years later.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, I was new to fitness modeling. I just got
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: with an agency, and so I was going on these
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: casting calls for Nike, under Armor, Athleta, all these places.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: And my agent called me one day and he was like, Hey,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: like this odd request came in from a company I've
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: never heard of, but this brand, Peloton, is shooting a
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Kickstarter campaign and they want to hire you as a
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: model slash actor for their ad. And I was like, okay,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: looks interesting. Also never heard of the brand, but I
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: showed up.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I did you know? It was like a half day shoot.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: It was a video shoot and the small team you know,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: John Foley, the CEO at the time, like he was there,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: his wife, very small team, and I came in and
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I shot the video and you know it was like
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: they were lovely, they were really nice people, and I
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: was like, best of luck, good luck to.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: You guys, you know, at the end of the day.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: And not knowing that that was totally the introduction to
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Peloton and my life you know, as a Peloton instructor
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: years later. So after that ad I went on to
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: teach fitness at a few other places, cycling, pilates, personal training,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: and then I was just sort of watching Peloton grow,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: you know, I was friends with them on face or
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: followed them on Facebook, so seeing all the you know,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: the media, the press that they were getting, and so
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I just and I write about this in my book
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: because Dave was like, why don't you email John Foley
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: and ask for a job.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: And I was like, what are you kidding me? I'm
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: not just going to email the CEO, like you're crazy,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: But I took his advice.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: And I emailed him and he wrote back right away
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: and he's like, I'm gonna put you in touch with
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Robin Head instructor. You know, one thing led to the next,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: and you know, I guess that was six years ago.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I was instructor number eleven or twelve. And it's just
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: crazy how all these small opportunities can just lead its
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: way into you know, where we are. It's just a
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: bunch of decisions that we're making a bunch of choices
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: that we're making along the way, saying yes to things
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: no to other things that you know, and I think
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: about those like what if I had said no to that?
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: What if I had said yes to this other thing.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: It's really it's really wild.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Did you know Robin before he introduced you? Again? No,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: you hadn't met her.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I never.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: I think that's something that we don't talk about often,
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: is that, like we're kind of inside baseball in New
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: York being that, especially when you're working in the health
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: and wellness community in any capacity, there's so much crossover.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: So you did have crossover previously with other people at
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: the time.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So Cody Rigsby and I used to back up
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: dance together. Ali Love and I used to dance together.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Jess King and I used to dance together. So I
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: knew a lot of the instructors when I was watching them.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I even remember, you know, Ali, because she started about
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: a year before me, and so I remember running into
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: her and she told me. She was like, hey, I
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: just I'm going to start working at this place Peloton.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh cool, you know. I remember her
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: telling me about that and sort of watching their journey,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and so it was really fun. When I came in
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: for my audition, I ran into Cody.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: He didn't know I was going to be there, and
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: he was like, oh my god.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: He just like dragged me around and introduced me to
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: everybody in the building like he was my hype man.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: He was like, you guys have to hire her. I
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, can you follow me to
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: every job interview?
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Oh my god. I love it.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: We all need a Cody in our in our back pocket.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: I also love what you said about garnering the courage
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: to send the email, something that can be so difficult. Obviously,
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: using the phrase and the email can also apply to
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: so many other different things. How do you garner the
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: courage to show up to hard moments and kind of
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: be your own biggest type man?
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I think of Wayne Gretzky, You miss one hundred percent
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: of the shops that you don't take. I literally think
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: about that because I'm like, what's the worst that's going
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: to happen? You know what's going to happen if you
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: do nothing nothing? What happens when you do nothing is
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: nothing happens. So you gotta do something right. You can't
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: just like sit around and wait for your opportunity to
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: just knock down your door, like, you have to put
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: yourself out there in some way. And I'm a huge
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: advocate for stepping outside of your comfort zone, hence me
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: writing this whole book. If it scares you a little bit, like,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: get curious about it, lean it, look at it a
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: little bit. If it scares you, don't just run away
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: first thing. I guess that kind of goes against our
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: fight or flight instincts, which are important to have. There
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: are you know, for safety reasons. There are reasons why
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: you need to like run away if a bear's coming
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: at you. But for these instances, I think it's like,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: if it scares you a little bit, like sit in
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: it and just like see why, and then what's the
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: worst thing that's going to happen? Are you going to
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: feel silly? Nobody responds to you. There's even people who
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: have reached out to me that like I meant to
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: email them, but then I forgot, and then they send
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: their second email and I'm like, oh, thank you for
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: writing back. It's like, send the second email too, you know,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: why not?
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Why not?
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: The worst thing that can happen most of the time
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: is that you're exactly where you started. Yeah, usually where
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: you're starting isn't all that bad to begin with. Totally, totally.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: I also appreciate you saying and talking about being such
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: a huge fan for stepping out of your comfort zone.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Do you feel like your tenacity, your resiliency was instilled
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: in you from a young age or is that learned behavior.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: I think a little bit of both.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I think definitely watching my parents, they were doers. They
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: were like, let's figure this out.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: My dad.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is I'm thinking, like this is before YouTube, right,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: and my dad's like, I'm going to build us a
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: new kitchen or like renovate our bathroom, and.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Like he had no idea what he was doing, but
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: he figured it out. He asked his brothers who came.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I remember them like working on our bathroom and I'm
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: like eight years old and they're just figuring, like plumbing
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: out and like, I don't know how they did it,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: but they would just figure stuff out. They would build it.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: They would just my parents, you know, worked on their house.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: They built a garden in the back Actually when my
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: parents bought their house. They bought their house on Martha's
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Vineyard in the eighties for forty thousand dollars.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Jesus, how different now.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and totally and they I mean, they couldn't even
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: afford the they had to get alan and all this stuff.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: But there was this really crappy pool in the backyard
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: that they just filled in with dirt and that made
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: that their garden because when you walked out of the house,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: it went like straight into the pool. And they're like,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: we have kids, like this is does not make sense.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: So anyway, that's what our backyard was. And I just,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I guess I really watched them figure it out. My
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: mom is an immigrant, she's from Taiwan, she moved to
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: the States. She was just really resilient. She made things
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: work and even when they weren't working, they made they
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: figured it out. And so I definitely learned that. And
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: then I think also my curiosity for getting out of
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: my comfort zone probably was learned a lot too for
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: my older brother, and just even in a physical sense
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: he was he loves extreme sports and just like pushing
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: himself like he's an excellent surfer. He took me rock
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: climbing for the first time, surfing for the first time.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: We did a surf trip together in Bali in Indonesia
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: for a month when I was like twenty years old.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I just like really watched my brother kind of push
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: himself like he was an amazing cyclist.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Actually he competed.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: In college, and so I think it was a combination
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: of just really like watching the people around me.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Do Yeah, do you have any regrets about perhaps a
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: moment where you didn't quote unquote send the email that
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: you reflect on?
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Not really, I try not, And even if I did,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I think I probably like subconsciously erased it for my
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: brain because I hate living in regret. I hate living
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: in like fomo and like, well what if I you know,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: it's like I kind of just like move on to
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: the next because if you spend all this time dwelling
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: on like I could have done it differently, it's really hurtful.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: It hurts to think that way. So yeah, I do
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I do my best at like not trying to dwell
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: on those things. But I'm sure there are things that
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I've thought about for a long time that I'm like
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I should have done or even like dance auditions, I
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: should have done.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: The double turn instead of the single turn. I don't know.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I totally hear you. So where were you
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: when you got the peloton call? Oh?
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: So well, Dave and I were living in California for
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: a short stint. We were there for maybe eight months.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I was a personal trainer at Facebook. Actually I was
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: training all of their employees, and.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Duck is pretty fit these days.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was not one of my clients, so I
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: can say that I never trained him.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I literally was listening to a podcast and
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: they were talking about how there's something going on where
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Elon Muskins Zoka.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, is that? What is that for real?
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: I didn't know. Is it really for real?
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: But I don't even think Elon could do like twelve
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: pushups and you paid him?
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: No anyways, continue, Yeah, I.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Will not be watching that unless somebody, you know, shares
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: a clip on like TikTok or something.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was teaching there. Didn't love it.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: I was also personal training at another place as well,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: and I was just like struggling, just not making a
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: lot of money and also like not feeling very fulfilled,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: and I was trying to look for, you know, the
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: next thing. And so that's when Dave was like, why
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: don't you send this email. Dave also at the same
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: time got a job opportunity back in New York and
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: he had like a confirmed opportunity. He's like, well, we
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: could go back and I could do this. And I
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: was starting the interview process at Peloton, but I didn't
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: have confirmation that I had the job. When Dave and
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I actually started, we started driving back to New York City,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: and I was like, listen, you got a job opportunity.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I'm like halfway with a job opportunity, and if I
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: don't get it, I could still teach at a million
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: other fitness studios in New York City. So I kind
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: of took a leap of faith in that too, where
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I feel like I'm going to get the job,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: but I don't know.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: And so it was.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Somewhere on our drive back, and I don't remember. We're
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: probably like driving through like Nebraska or some very flat state.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: And then you know, figure found out that I.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Had actually gotten it, and it was pretty cool that
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: I was like, see this is all working out in
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: the way. You know, you got a job opportunity. I
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: have one now too, Like, let's let's do it.
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  Speaker 3: The world works man in.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: That way, when you start to act in such a
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: way that you're setting yourself up for a certain circumstance
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: and you walk into your power, you will be rewarded
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: with the energy that you're putting out into the world.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: So for you to take that leap of faith, so
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: to speak, and start that drive, yep, I'm not surprised
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: that that's what happened for you, right, yeah.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Right, But I definitely am. I'm somebody who like I
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: always have a plan, B Like I'm I'm just that way,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: And sometimes I wish I wasn't that way, but I'm
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: always like ready for like the other shoe to drop
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: or like the thing to not work out, but I'm
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: like it's okay, I'm prepared. I'm ready, like I have
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: this other plan, And so I think that's how I
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: have gotten through my life is just always being like
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go for it. But I also have
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: really thought this out that if I don't get it,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: here's my plan B.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: You're speaking to my soul.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: And that's something I talk to my life coach a
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: lot about because I want to be all in on
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: Plan A, but I am mentally uncapable, incapable of not
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: having a plan BA.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's just like being a woman
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: or like, I don't know, but I just feel or
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I learned that from my parents. I feel like my
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: mom like kind of installed that in me.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: But I don't know. I've definitely always been that way.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: One of my first interviews on the show, this guy
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: named Fred Santarpia who used to be the chief Digital
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: officer at Conde Nast. He said something that I always
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: bring up time after time, which is if you don't
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: have a Plan B, then you don't have a plan.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: That really stuck with me.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: So there's another you know, successful person.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: In your adult life.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: Peloton was one of the first jobs then that offered
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: you a lot of stability.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how did that feel?
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I I have a four to oh one K.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: That was my first time ever having a four to
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: one K. Truly, it was in first I'm having a salary.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Really, like I'd been a freelancer my whole life for
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: somebody who actually like thrives off of stability, it's amazing
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: and I can't believe and I'm proud of myself how
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: long I was a free life answer and was able
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: to like mentally and emotionally get through that because I
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: swear as a freelancer, you're like, as soon as you're like, okay,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I'm finally in a book a vacation, it's going to
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: be so hard because I'm going to be spending my
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: money and not making money when I go away, and
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: then you get a call that's like, hey, we need
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: you here for this job, so you cancel your vacation
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: because you're like, nope, I got it. It's almost I'm
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: telling you, nine times out of ten, every time I
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: would book a vacation, I would book a job. So
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: then I started making the joke that was like, maybe
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I just need to book more vacation so that I
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: can book work.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Energy attracts like energy, ima, right.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: But then like now knowing that I can go away
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: on vacation and I have like PTO and I get
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: paid and I'm can like I can really relax on vacation.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: It's amazing.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: So like I understand, like I love hustle. I understand hustle,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: but I also really appreciate it and it makes sense for
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: my personality that I feel so much more calm and
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: went with stability in my life.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, to each their own right to be able to
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: know what feels better for you. For those that are
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: gig economy workers contractors, what would you say was a
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: tool or a tactic that you incorporated regularly that enabled
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: you to thrive to the best of your ability during
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: that time period of your life.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really work very hard when you're working, and
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: then like do your best to unplug and relax and
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: know that you deserve that relaxation. And just like so,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: then when I would finally towards the end of my freelancing,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: you know time, if I were to take it, as
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: long as the job wasn't some like huge life changing thing,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, no, I'm going to say no to
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: the job. I'm going to go away. I booked this
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: for myself. I deserve this, I need this time off.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I'm going to turn my phone off and try to
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: just like enjoy myself and that was really hard, but
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: I think that was my focus and that's how I
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: made sense of it all. Is like, when I'm working,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: I'm really working, I'm really available, I'm going to bust
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: my butt. But when I'm offline, like I'm really I
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: need to just be offline and tune in with myself co.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Sign with that.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: I also feel as though something that really resonated with
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: me through the pandemic and now post pandemic is this
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: concept of one thing at a time. So I'm going
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: to give my whole energy to the thing that I'm
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: working on in that moment where pre pandemic, if I
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: think about Emily the og entrepreneur, I was doing like
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: four things at the same time, every single day for
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: eight hours on end. So now like as one would
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: hope recording a podcast, I am here in this room
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: and this is what we are doing, and this is
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: entirely where my head is at. I am completely where
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: my feet are, which I do think is something that
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: many people struggle with. So then to take that tip
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: and top a tip on top of that, add a
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: tip on top of that, add a tip on top
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: of that, how would you recommend someone gets better at
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: being more present and being really our feet are.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many, you know, like mindful exercises
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: that you can do of Like I think I was
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: actually listening to an interview with Jewel, the singer, and
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: she was talking about like looking at your hands when
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: you when you're feeling like scattered or chaotic and your
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: energies all over the place.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: It's like really.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Looking at your hands and it like reminds you that
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: you're here. Feeling your feet on the ground literally, like
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: taking your shoes up, put your feet in the grass,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: like whatever it is, like feel feel the space that
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: you are really in. But you know, also, like let's
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: talk about exercise for your mental health benefits and not
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: just physical, but.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Exercise helps you.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Feel more in your body, and I think we need
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: to feel more in our body to feel more grounded.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: So there's so many things that I think we can do,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: these little little exercises that we can do throughout the
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: day that help us feel more grounded. Talk, therapy, exercise,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: all the things life coat which whatever it is, but
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: explore and find the thing that works for you.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: How do you feel in your body these days?
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: How do I feel in my I mean like good
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: or bad or like like what do I do?
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, how do you emma feel in your body
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: these days? What's your relationship like with your body these days?
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm definitely aware of I'm aging and I
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: can't help, you know. And I'm like on a group
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: chat with my girlfriends and we're like, gosh, like I
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: have like wrinkles on my chest when I wake up?
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Like these like things that were like damn or like
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: skincare me whatever.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: But I'm trying to just be like I.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Don't you know, I subscribe to like you are as
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: old as you feel you are, and also like age
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: doesn't define you. And there's so many ways in which
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: like actually, when Dave and I were just in Italy,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: there was this cute, uh these two girls that were
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: probably like nineteen or twenty years old, and I was
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: talking to them and they made me laugh so hard
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: because they were like, did you guys, how long have
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: you been together? I was like, David, I've been together
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: for like ten years and they were like, so did
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: you meet like before college?
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: And I was like, huh, Like I could tell that
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: they were.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Like not able to pick up on my age, and
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: so finally they were like, wait, how old are you.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm in my late thirties, and they were like,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: oh my god, we thought you were twenty five.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, girls, tell me more, you know,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: And I couldn't help but like think it was hilarious
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: and so cute. But I am also trying not to
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: like shame myself for aging because we all age, and
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: it's like, I'm still doing the things that I would
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: have been doing like at thirty, and I still feel
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: amazing being able to do the things, like I am
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: still an athlete. I am still pushing my body on
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: a date weekly basis, and I feel really good doing that.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: But I am just like it's okay to notice in
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: the ways that I'm changing and like accommodate those changes
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: because I'm not in denial about it. I'm not just
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: gonna like there are some ways that I definitely you know,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: when I was in my twenties, I was a bartender,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: and so I was like out till six am all
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: the time, and I cannot tell you the last time
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: I was up.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: Until six I know, literally actually capable of telling.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: I cannot tell you I have no idea.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Recking my brain. Don't have it.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: No, I don't have it at all.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: But I really appreciate what you're saying here, which is
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: the importance of Greece. And also like you can recognize it.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: You may feel some kind of way about it, but
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: you can have the grease with yourself to act accordingly
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: in a way that is kind to you, kind to
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: your body, kind to your mental health.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Because life's hard enough as it is.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: Spot on, Yeah, you know, like the last thing that
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: we need every day is for us to be the
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: person that's talking down to ourselves, especially because you are
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: the person that talks to yourself most in any given.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Day, totally, and that's why that relationship with yourself is
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: the most important.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: How has the relationship that you've had with yourself evolved
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: since taking this job at Peloton, knowing that understandably so
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: there are more eyes on you now than there used
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: to be.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the first thing that just came to
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: my head was how, like, especially working in wellness, like
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: we know all the tips, right, we know, like the
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: morning routine, the like drink water for something, like all
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: these tips that I spew out, and like we know
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: them and I hear them from so many people, and
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that makes sense, that makes sense, But like
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: actually doing them sometimes is different than just speaking them.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Like actually, like I know that.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I feel better when I'm meditating. Meditation is the first
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: thing that I throw out the door if I don't
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: have time, but I know how helpful it is. So
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: like here I am, and I can like preach, preach, preach,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: but like if I'm not doing them, and I know
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: that they work, I know that these things work. So
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: I'm just being brutally honest right now and saying that,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: like there are times where I totally fall off of
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: my like you know, wellness routine and all the things
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: that I talk about. I know that they work. So
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not questioning whether or not they're good. I'm just
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: questioning or not whether whether or not like how much
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I prioritize them. And I think my priorities start to
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: shift a little bit, right and like with a more
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: high pressure job or more eyes on me, Like what
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: are the things that I'm you know, I think and this.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't have kids, but I think a
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: lot of people say, like when you have kids, like
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: it really holds you honest because you have people really
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: watching you in real time. Like on Instagram, I can
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: post photos of me meditating. I don't, by the way,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: because that would be so boring. But I could post
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: pictures of me meditating and be like, meditation is good
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: for you, But am I really meditating?
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: No, I forget.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: I don't do it as much as I want to.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: And so I think, yeah, when you have kids, they're like, no,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: you you tell me to get off my phone, but
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: you're on your phone, you know, like it really keeps
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: you honest. And so I think about that as like
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: the busier I get, the more things that I have
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: going on in my life, the more followers I have
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: on Instagram, this like image of wellness and my opinions
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: about it are.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: You know, I really believe.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: In what I believe, but it also takes another element
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: to really commit to them, because if I am not
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: taking care of myself, I'm not gonna It's not sustainable,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Like I can't I can't help other people if I'm
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: not helping myself. So when I do get when I
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: instruct and the one way that I feel like I'm
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: able to connect with so many people through you know,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: virtually through teaching fitness is being really honest, and I
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: think I try to be authentic to myself. I try
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: to be as honest about like, hey, I've totally fallen
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: off my routine. I'm going to try to get back
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: on it.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: I think it's.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Relatable for people to hear that that me too, cannot
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: be prioritizing the things that I should be prioritizing. But
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I just I do think about that as more eyes
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: are on me. It's like I want to promote good things,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: but I also want to be honest.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think there's value in both.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Again that authenticity is truly just, it's irreplaceable. And also
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: knowing that you for your mental health, you're not alone.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: Also in the fact that you're falling off the bandwagon,
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: like your gurus have gurus. Yes, And I think that
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: oftentimes when you are someone that people look up to,
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: which you are, those people forget that you also need
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: someone to look up to, like you also need support
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: and care and concern and time for yourself and all
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: of these things, right, so that you can show up
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: and be the best version of you every single day.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: My therapist has a therapist, yes.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: You know, yeah, thank God, right, my life coach is
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: a life coach, I get it. Yeah, So being more
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: with all of these extra eyes on you. You have
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: over almost six hundred and fifty thousand people following you
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: on Instagram, you have a newsletter that has over thirty
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: seven thousand subscribers that get notes from you in their
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: inbox regularly. They look to you, they see a peloton
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: instructor and author and who they may perceive has their
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: shit together.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: When you look in the mirror, what is it that
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: you see looking back at you.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I am really proud of myself for what I've accomplished
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: so far.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: I am.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: You know, my tagline in my book is progress not perfection,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: because I am a perfectionist. I have been a perfectionist,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: and I still strive for more and I'm like very
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: ambitious and I want more and more and more. So
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: my focus to me is like, no, no, no, be
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: proud of where you are now, Like what what do
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: you have now that you didn't have five years ago,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: ten years ago? And really look at how much you
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: have already grown. It's the abundance, not the scarcity.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: And I just.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I mean, I'm like kind of in
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: awe of like where I am now versus from where
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: I've come from. Like I would have never thought, as
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: like a little kid, that I would be where I
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: am now. And it's pretty cool to to see that,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: and even like talk to my parents who are like,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: you know, who know me the best and who knew
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: me as like a little snotty kid, and like now
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: I'm you know, inspiring millions of people around the world.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: It's pretty freaking cool.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: Now I'm inspiring millions of people around the world. When
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: I say that sentence back to you, aside from being cool,
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: how does it make you feel?
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: It's hard to grasp honestly, Like what is a million? Right?
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: Well, you're like, when did you get to a place
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: where like saying that sentence was like actually a sentence
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: you could say because there are like things that I
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: know to be true about myself. I don't know if
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: I'm inspiring millions of people around the world, but I
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: do know that there are facts about what I have done,
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: what I have created that are true that still feel
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: hard for me to say out loud.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Honestly, Emily, that might have been the first time I've
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: ever said that. Who knows.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: I'm here to encourage you and step to step into
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: your greatness. I'm here to encourage you to step into
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: your greatness.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: It is it's crazy and like even just knowing like
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: the number of people, right I I was talking to
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: somebody about this when you step into like a stadium
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: and you know, I went to Fenway to throw the
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: first pitch for the Red Sox, which was incredible, but
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: there were thirty five thousand people there, and so then
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: I look around and I'm like, thirty five thousand people
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: take my class in like a day. Like there's like
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: times that by you know, ten, there's like three hundred
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: thousand people that take my class after like a month.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: I can't wrap my head around that number. I'm sorry,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Like that's just too many seats.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: That's too many people.
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: That many people read your newsletter every time it comes out.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: WHOA is that bizarre?
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: It's so bizarre.
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: I know, like that many people subscribe to Hurdle on iTunes.
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: Like it literally blows my mind when I like sit
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: down and like try to actually look at the amount
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: of people, because how often are you in a room
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: with thirty five thousand people out by the stadium as
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: a room, but how often are you an environment with
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: that amount of people where you can look around and
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: be like, holy wowe so special, truly so special. Okay,
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: so you're proud of yourself, is what we're what we're
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: coming down to you, I mean, and you should be,
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: because it really is just such a remarkable accomplishment not
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: only to have turned your passion into what you get
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: to do all the time with this job, but then
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: make that career into something bigger where you do have
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: this opportunity beyond the bike, beyond the mat to inspire
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: people in such a bigger way.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: There really is two parts of that too that are
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: both enjoyable in their own way. Like if I just
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: got to teach fitness to I love movement and music together,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: like as a dancer, as a musician, I've just those two,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: the combination of those two things like bring me joy
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: and give me life. And so if I got to
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: just like teach fitness to music, got to move my
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: body to music, and nobody saw like.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: That'd be a pretty cool job too, you know.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: But the fact that I get to inspire so many
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: people on top of that that now they get to
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: change lives, right, It's exponential, the change, the positive impact
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: is exponential. If somebody has, you know, a doctor, a
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: nurse takes my class and they feel inspired and great,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: then think about how many lives you know that they're
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: touching in their line of work. So yeah, the fact
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: that I get to do both of those things at
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: the same time, are you kidding me?
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: How cool?
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: You mentioned goals before? What would you say that your
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: biggest goal is right now?
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Well, right now after coming off of this book tour,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: I think my goal for the summer especially is to
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: do a little bit less, do.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: Less, do less. What does less look like for you?
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I think it looks like more downtime, more like open
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: time on my calendar where there's like nothing scheduled, so
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: I could do like a spontaneous trip or spontaneous do nothing.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: I love gardening and I talk about it a lot
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: in my book. So just spending more time outside in
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: the garden and spending more time with Dave, and like
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: just just having.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: More free time. Like I want to be bored, you know.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: I want to not be on my phone all the time.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: I want to like play the piano more, pick up
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: a paintbrush. I don't know, I just want to have
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: a little more freedom and open time and less stress.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: So I'm trying to make less plans or more strategic
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: ones so that I'm not just like running around constantly.
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: Sometimes making less plans like you just listed a bunch
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: of stuff that you're interested in doing, and sometimes making
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: less plans also involves enabling ourselves to do the things
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: that we want to do or again, remove that decision fatigue,
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: so those things are actually available to us. So when
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: you say I would like to pick up a paintbrush
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: or I want to guarden, more like what can you
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: have that is readily available to you so that doing
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: those things doesn't feel like such a oh but I
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: don't have this or I don't have that, or I
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: need to whatever, right, And it seems so simple, but
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: it does involve a little bit of logistics.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: It does.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: It does, because yeah, even if I'm like, oh, I'm
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: not going to do anything and then you just end
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: up sitting on your phone, like that's sometimes you actually
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: have to like schedule in Like I started taking piano
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: lessons a few months ago. That's yeah, I mean it's
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: it's a little traumatic because as a kid, I studied
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: piano and so it kind of brings back the like
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: my parents yelling at me that I had to practice
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: for thirty minutes every day, and now like my piano
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: teacher will come to my house and I'm.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Like, shit, I haven't practiced. Like is that feeling when
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: you don't have your homework done and you have to
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: go to school.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: It's the worst feeling.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: And now I'm like, okay, but I'm an adult and
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: I'm literally paying him to teach me, Like it's okay
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: if I didn't practice, like this is fine. But I also, yeah,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: just like making things readily available, like you said, and
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: I mean that's why I keep telling Dave. I'm like,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: I need a crafts room. I want a whole room
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: in my house that's just dedicated to crafts where I
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: can just leave my paints out and like have a
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: sewing machine and all and knitting and like all the
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: weird crafts that I have and so that they're just
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: there and ready for me, so they're not like tucked
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: away and hard to get to, tucked away and hard
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: to get Well, we're working on that, the logistic of.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: That, but yeah, it's so impressive. It's so impressive.
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: I think I think do Lass is definitely a good
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: summer goal for sure, because you know that the second
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: fall hits, I feel like everyone is in like overdrive active.
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: Everything is just super hectic. Everyone's back in the office. Yeah,
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: I'm down with the do last summer. What else is
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: exciting you right now?
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: I mean more on gardening is just that, like, I'm
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: like growing things that I've never grown before. So every
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: time I step into the garden, I'm like, I'm growing
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: potatoes for the first time. And so to me that
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: seems like or you know, you're listening to this podcast,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: you might be like, Okay, that's not very exciting, em but.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: To me, that's very exciting.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: The amount of excitement I get from gardening is maybe unusual,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: but actually, if you garden, then you will relate to this.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: And you absolutely know every time I step outside and
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: see changes, it's very exciting. And actually Dave and I
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: are starting to work on maybe a little renovation on
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: our home. And I documented our whole big renovation two
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: years ago when we bought our house. I put it
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: all on YouTube. It was very exciting and cute, and
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: so now we're in the talks of maybe doing another
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: smaller renovation in our home. But that will hopefully start
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: after the summer so I can still have a summer
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: of doing less.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I still have a summer of doing less.
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: I'd be remiss if I let you walk out of
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: here and I didn't ask you about how it feels
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: now that not only the book is out, but the
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: work that goes into creating the book is done.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I know.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: That's two different things too, Like totally writing the book.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: The contents of the book is its own thing, the
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: process of its book of writing the book too, and
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: then the promotion of the book is a whole other beast.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: It's a whole other thing. And I think when I
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: was promoting the book, I kind of lost a little
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: bit of touch of like the contents of it because
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: I was so focused on the promotion of it. And
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: so now sitting back that most of the promotion is done,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: and now I'm getting the messages from people who have
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: finished the book and read it, and I'm getting the
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: people and their you know, amazing comments, and the impact
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: of the book is coming out and that's really beautiful,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: and I think it's bringing me.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Back to the purpose of the book and the reason
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: why you know, I decided to write it is to
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: inspire people.
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and again going back to this concept that you've
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: already been inspiring, this is just a different avenue to
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: go down. And I'm of the mindset that again kind
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: of goes with that send the email, why not why
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: not try here? Why not try there? Why not pivot
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: this way? Because you never know until you give that
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: a whirl.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to try it on and
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: see how it feels. If it's three hundred percent scary
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: and you're like absolutely not no, but if it's like
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: fifty percent scary and you're like, but I kind of
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: want to do it, That's how the book was for me.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: I think it was like I kind of always knew
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: I wanted to write a book, I just didn't know when.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: And so when the opportunity present itself, and I definitely
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: had the thought like is now the right time?
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know?
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: But then I was like, well, what if now is
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: the only time? Like who's to say, you know, I
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: can write a book in twenty years, I don't know.
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: And just for those that may not understand how it works,
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: So when you say that the opportunity presented itself, it
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: means that someone contacted you and.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: Was like, we'd love to work with you on a book.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: And You're like, oh, shoot.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: Yep yeah, And I'm like, you a publisher wants an
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: editor want me to like you see, Like an editor from.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: Paying in random House called me and was like, you
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: should write a book.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, man, if you see that in me?
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Should I see that in me? Let me look at that.
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: That's really powerful. It's really powerful in that instance. But
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: also that idea, that concept as a whole that oftentimes
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: people around us may be able to recognize or see
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: greatness in us that we aren't necessarily at the point
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: yet we're we're coming to terms with it, or just
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: different characteristics. Even right someone can look at you and say, oh,
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: you're so compassionate. And meanwhile, like an ago you were
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: having a negative self talk session with yourself where you
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: were like, I suck blah blah blah.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy how that can happen In the same day.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: I was actually just talking to Tunday about this a
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: little different topic and she actually told me that she
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: talked about this in class. So I'm not sharing anything
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: that I'm not supposed to share, but how she was
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: supposed to go on a first date and the guy
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: stood her up, and on her way to the date,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: She's like, I've never been complimented more in my life.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: She's like, people were stopping me on the streeting like
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: you are gorgeous, Like oh my god, look at you,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: You're a goddess. Like all these people like building her up.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: She gets to the restaurant and then the guy doesn't
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: show up.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: People suck.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: People totally suck. Anyway, Tunday's texting me.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: I'm texting her back and I was like, girl, treat
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: yourself to a just remember like you are. I'm like
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: boosting her up through text just like sending her voice
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: notes being like this guy is a loser, like don't
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: even you know what I'm at facts anyway, but she
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: was like, how odd is it that, like you can have.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: These two things exist in the same time.
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: All of these compliments and then also someone who doesn't
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: even recognize your greatness. This guy doesn't know what he's
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: messing up missing out on. And also tune today is
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: my neighbor.
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: She knows this. If you're listening to this tune next.
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: Time, text me and we'll I'll come meet you for
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: a drink.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: Although a solo date.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: Is my vibe that totally. I have a whole chapter
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: my book about dating yourself. I love taking myself out
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: to dinner, sitting at a noodle bar, at the bar
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: by myself. It's like one of my favorite things to
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: do because it is a little uncomfortable at first, but
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: then you're like, no, like I get to hang out
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: with me, Like that's awesome.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: As we wind down here, then let me ask you
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: about that.
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: So, for someone who doesn't yet feel comfortable dating themselves,
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: how do they get there?
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: Do it well? Uncomfortable? Just do it? Do it well?
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Afraid you know, it's like maybe you have to stare
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: at your phone a little bit. Try to stare at
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: your phone a little less the next time. But your
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: relationship with yourself is the most important one that you have.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: And if you can be at peace with yourself, like
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: there's no.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: Limit, there's no limit, there's no limit.
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: All right right now, Emma, you have an opportunity to
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: give yourself a piece of advice. Let's go back to
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: let's say the hurdle moment time in your life. You're
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: a contractor, you're trying to figure it out, you're training
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: at Facebook, you're like, Eh, this isn't the move.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: What am I going to do here?
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: You have an opportunity right now, knowing what you know now,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: to give yourself a piece of advice during that hurdle moment.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: What do you tell yourself?
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: I'd say to follow your gut, follow your heart, you know,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: really be in tune with the things that you know
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: about yourself and be open to the things that you
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure a lot of people say this, but
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: it will all work out.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: In the end. Yeah, will trust and have faith? Right yeap?
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: So happy you're able to make this happen, Emma. If
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: they don't follow you just yet, how do the hurdlers
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: keep up with you?
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: How do they follow you? Give us your details?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, so, I'm on Instagram, TikTok at Emma love Well.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: I have a newsletter called the love List that's on substack.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: I also have a website Live learnlovewell dot com. Find
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: my book at all places that books are. There's even
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: an audible where I'm reading the audio version. And then
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: find me on Peloton Cycling and Strength and Dance Cardio.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: I love it all the places.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: I'll link the book in the show notes I'm over
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: at Emily Body and at Hurdle Podcast another hurdle conquered.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.