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Episode 128: COUNTER STRIKE 2! · WASD and Beyond

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Yes. It's been a minute since we
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actually talked about video games.
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Actually specifically Nine episodes. 9 episodes.
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We want me Tech. We've been talking video game
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adjacent things? I would say.
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Yeah, but nothing in the. I'm of video games and since
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then, But a lot of shit happening in the industry.
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Yes. A lot of stuff we haven't really
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been able to cover know until now exactly until now.
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So not only is there a Diablo for beta episode coming from
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myself. Matt, and Brody of the Diggity
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podcast you'll remember, Matt, do you all remember Matt right?
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He's there, he's still thing around.
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You might be unmoor up so it's maybe if we could convince him
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to that's if it's root canal. Go.
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Osgood though. He doesn't lose half his teeth.
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He has a whoop Canal tomorrow. Yes.
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Well, you know what, Matt, that's what you get for drinking
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and less amounts of Mountain Dew.
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Mountain Dew diet double Dew defiant.
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Do the math get it are you good? I'm good but ya know there's
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been a lot of cool shit in the industry.
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I would say GDC is going on right now.
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If you're not, if you're not a developer or working for a
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company, don't know why you're going.
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But I hope if you're they're having a good time.
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I'm interesting stuff. I said some Unreal Engine stuff
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today that looked really cool. There is sucker for my truck.
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The what the Arabian. It's an electric track and they
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were using it. Like, it was driving through a
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jungle and they were showing kind of like the suspension
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underneath it, how it likes sticks to the road and stuff.
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It was really cool but yeah, it was like in an Unreal Engine,
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like test or whatever. So well there's also that
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Fortnight Mega I didn't see that.
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Yeah, check it out after the show.
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We'll talk about that on the hotfix.
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Unreal is good. Just take over eventually here,
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which is cool. But enough of you guys trying to
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make fucking old games, unreal 5, it looks Solace and boring,
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and looks like shit. It might look pretty but stop
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next, just really wants valve to take over the world.
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Do I? Like I can like Unreal Engine 5,
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I don't like ethnic well. Yeah, obviously.
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But I mean, they're still not going to do that though.
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Because you EA needs to keep their money and use their own
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engine. That ends up screwing up every
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time, who's who's in charge of fucking epic right.
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Now he's the same guy who was complaining about Apple's now,
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saying valves, a whatever valve is doing, is just eat.
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What Steve has done is like going to fuck the industry over
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because his launcher is not doing well.
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You see that he had like, they had like a year or two to year
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roadmap that they shared with everybody a long time ago.
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I remember reading like the Trello board for a Things they
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wanted by certain times. And like, yeah, dude, these guys
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are like video game developers. Like, they're like, they're
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like, Indie devs, dude. Like they have a Trello and they
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miss, like, five of the updates. I mean, it's like Star Citizen.
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It's like, yeah, you said q1? I understand that means January
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to March, but like this is June 3rd.
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And you're giving us this update, like it's three months
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late but, yeah, I mean, yeah. I mean, that's his own damn
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fault. Maybe make a better launcher
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nerd. Maybe we don't need this many
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launchers, or we don't Need this money launch, I don't agree with
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that. They're gonna come to steam
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anyway. Like I know you're going to be
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able to get Diablo on Steam. I understand.
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Surely. But I fi I'm okay with battle
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that. Does that make sense?
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I don't mind Battlenet it's because it's easy and it's
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simple and we know how it's easy to work around.
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In the chat. All the features are there.
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All the features are there. Yeah, like yeah, there's no
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Community Hub, there's no like steam, you know, they don't have
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the the workshop and all that stuff but their games don't
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really support that anyway, right?
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Unless they, but then again, that's because it's Activision
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Blizzard. I mean, if OverWatch was a steam
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game, yes, there would be a community Hub.
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There'd be way, more skins, way more maps, way more variety and
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there wouldn't, I mean, like OverWatch?
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We basically get what I mean, not basically, we only get what
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the devs. Give us.
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What you get from them. Yeah, so yeah, I mean, if I
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wanted to go and play csgo right now, I could go into CS go, join
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a community server, play a competitive match and I could
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use any skin for any gun I wanted.
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It like I could literally set my skin as an operator that cost
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like 20 bucks because they just they just have servers that are
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like, yeah, it's unranked. You don't get anything for it.
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So just go and have fun but instead like even like think of
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it that way, you know how much glory be if we could do offline
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or not offline, server browser, custom matches and OverWatch and
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we got to use any skin for any character, right?
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That'd be cool, but instead know we get stupid game modes.
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Like, Genji, parkour and doom fist parkour.
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And shoot the mercy but don't want it.
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We don't need it. Yeah.
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Sorry kind of a tangent that's for a hotfix.
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Nick, I'm distracted. It is raw fix.
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So let's go right off on our side Topic in our shorter
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discussed topic. Dead Island 2 releases net in
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April. 21st 21st. I know they're two different
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games Dying. Light to came out last year
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right? Last year.
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Yes, last year. And that to me that was
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underwhelming. How disappointing the online
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when we played it with shit? It was really Jank.
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It was it was a second to drink. It was the second day, right?
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Let's be let's let's, let's be honest to the viewers neck.
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It was like the second or third day.
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And how much did you play it? I stopped because I didn't have
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fun at all that game. I played what be prior to
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playing online. I was playing story and it
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wasn't fun. You didn't enjoy it.
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I don't like, it felt like it was going to be a bunch of fetch
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Miss. Means escort missions.
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It just wasn't fun. The parkour was cool.
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I will say that the park or go to school.
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I'm I mean, it's a game where you really don't, you should not
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should not but like you don't have to care about the story.
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It's one of those where you're pretty much going along with it
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with your buddies to just have fun.
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Yeah. And speaking of Dead Island as
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it is as it is our topic into contrast with the to debt.
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I've been playing actually a little bit of Dead Island one
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the past couple weeks I've very brief like just maybe In the
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first couple missions but I immediately was reminded at how
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the first game is in terms of its humor, like I think the
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story itself, they try to take a little too seriously, but like
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the opening ensure that you get every time you load up, the game
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is so funny because you're playing in a guy who just gets
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hammered listens to Sam be rap. Who do you vote?
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Do. And then you see like you see
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like zombies biting each other and like you kind of meet as
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this like drunk. NPC you meet all the main
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characters you're going to get to play as?
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And kind of hear a little bit about their backstory and what
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not and I liked that, like all the characters had a backstory
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to them, they had a Proficiency in something and like they had
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different voice lines and stuff for that and they had, you know,
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to certain bonuses. And but you just kind of
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realize, I mean it's absurd, right?
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It's like dead. What's it called?
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Dead Rising in terms of the customization of your weapons
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but first person very fun way where I feel like Dead Rising
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can be fun but it's also very like just a little too.
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Too complicated, in terms of you have Companions and like, you
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know, points and stuff like to spend, I guess it just was
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confusing to me at some points but like that Island one was
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just fun. Like whatever playing that on
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the Xbox 360. Yeah it released and that I
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remember, get it because I played Dead Island as well or
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I'll that rounds up Dead. Rising Dead, Rising Dead Rising,
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but Dead Island. I liked Dead Rising, but there's
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something about the openness of Dead Rising that I did.
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Enjoy it with Dying Light. There was that openness as well,
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but With Dead Island. It's a different feel for me,
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Isn't it? I mean, obviously it's called
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it's an island. You're like a beach resort
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almost. Which is I think what added to
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it for me? I liked the it's an exotic
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location whereas dead a Dying Light basically feels like any
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City. Yeah, it feels like any shithole
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City or giant City and I understand I understand that too
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because I get like, it's a Parkour game, right?
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It'd be like if Mirror's Edge was set in Nebraska, it just
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doesn't. Yeah, you know, there's Is not a
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lot of stuff to parkour off of, in that sense.
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But yeah, like, I liked Dead Island.
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It had this. Yeah, this fun can't be.
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And what I've heard from people who got to play it and saw more
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detail on it. They said that this, I mean
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leans into that, and it's supposed to be funny and
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light-hearted and doesn't take itself seriously.
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You know, it's almost like I don't want to say it's like a
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Deadpool, ask sort of thing. Like it's not necessarily from
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what I've heard, it's not actually in on the joke but it's
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it's taking the premise and just kind of turning it up to 11.
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And like, you know, you find two people that miss the like rescue
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helicopter because they just had a big apocalypse party and like,
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you find it I like to do just drunk and like, you know, thong
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or whatever and it's like, they just kind of lean into that
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goofy aspect. I mean, at the end of the day,
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you are characters that can build Wolverine claws with
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electrical things on them, you know, exactly.
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Well in this one, this Dead Island looks like it's going to
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be it's going to have its fair share of seriousness and
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goofiness which makes me Me very happy.
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But the one thing I think, stood out to me with this Dead Island
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was a, we get guns. I mean the, the first one, he
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does well, but like again stretching end.
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Yeah. But In Dying Light.
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No guns. Really.
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Right. Like, you got, you could like
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crap, like one type of gun. I thought it was you and you
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were able to get some like you were able to get military rifles
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and shotguns but they're that mean they all more or less feel
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the same. They didn't feel good to use.
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At the end of the day, like I completed Dying Light and I
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think I still ended up using mostly melee weapons because
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that's where it's fun. Yeah, and Dead Island you more.
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So got weapons towards the end of the game as like a reward.
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Like good job. You've done it, you know.
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Congratulations. But even then they all felt sort
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of the same and I won't be surprised if they feel the same
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in this one. Like yeah.
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You see in the trailer like he shoots off a woman's entire leg
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with like two bullets from a 9 mil which is like obviously just
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kind of goofy and again the bodies that Khalid decaying
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right and it's like a gory game, right?
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So, it's all about that maximum blood Factor.
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Well, that's what they've brought up though.
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They brought up their new Gore system like they're like, lash
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wholesome, The Flash system, so that has me really high pain
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that because like when I play a game, It doesn't matter what
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game is. It's honestly any game for me at
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this point when I shoot somebody I want to see The Bullet Hole
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does that mean? Yes, I want to see the damage on
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the body. Like, I want to see this person
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fucked up. I want to see them have to limp
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if I shooting like, I want to see them, not be able to use
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their left arm by shoot them and left armor.
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Something if I shoot you in the hand, I want to your want your
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hand to fucking blow off. This looks like it's gonna
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scratch that itch for me, because it looks pretty
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extensive, especially with melee or oh, yeah, with like heavier
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weapons. Here's got blow people's heads
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right off. So this does look sweet, like
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I'm really serious. See the clip of the, it's in the
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extended Gameplay, trailer, where like she puts her whole
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fist through the zombies hand. Yes, pulls it back out and it's
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like, open. Like, so that's the thing, I
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think that a lot of these zombie games are trying to lean into
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because they're trying to figure out right, what, what sets us
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apart, what can we make fun, right?
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And we've seen like Left 4 Dead had this, there's hordes, you
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got guns, just mow, em down, and then there's a very core with
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it. And then, you know, World War Z
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was like, okay. We're going to have technically
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less Gore in the sense of it's very descriptive for each
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zombie, but there's Going to be like, hundreds of zombies on
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screen at once. And then back for blood, kind of
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did a weird, like, almost a strobe light thing with it to
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where you got cards and stuff. And I think like, I've heard
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this game is doing it, and no more room in hell to is doing it
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as well. We're like, no two zombies, look
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the same. And like, there's a detailed
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work of Gore on it. And it's like, Dynamic rather
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than static, you know, not every zombie is going to blow off the,
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you know, their heads going to block the same way.
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I'm sure eventually it's going to get To a point where you can
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tell, like there's maybe only five or ten different boards
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heads or something like that and like that's fine.
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But like, you know, the idea that it's still there.
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Anyways is cool. And again, I like the flash
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system as well because you had supposed to be like they it's
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entirely unique to each sambi and what's theirs too?
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You know, I mean, it's not like it's their system.
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So, I'm hoping it's super unique to this game itself.
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The and I'm hoping, I'm sorry. No, no going on.
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I was going to say that. What I am hoping for that, I
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didn't. See a lot in the Gameplay
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trailer and you might remember this in Dead Island.
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You could use like a blunt weapon, like a paddle or a
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hammer, and you could actually specifically Target, a zombies
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arm and you'd sit break show up on the screen.
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I want that like, that was a quite well.
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Blew my mind is a kid was like, oh I could just break this
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zombies legs and just run away. If like my hammer is not going
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to last too long, or I could just systematically like, if I'm
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fighting 10 of them, I can focus.
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I have this massive, you know, Hammer, I'm going to go for
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their arms or something and see how my arms I can cut off.
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I just saw in this extended Gameplay trailer at the end of
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it actually when there's like all that fire in the zombies on
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fire. Yeah your character actually was
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able to kind of look down and SWAT the legs out.
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Yeah. Looks like you have to do that.
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The one thing that is turning me off already is which, I'm sure.
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I am sure there's gonna be a toggle for it.
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Is the bars, over the zombies. I cannot play with that that
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needs to be turned off. See, so that's the thing as I
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said that to, I didn't want to see like all the damage and the
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the bars and stuff. But then I you know, play Dead
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Island one and I was like, oh they had bars to like they had
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bars, they had damaged numbers. They had the brakes and all that
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stuff. I and I'm sure there will be a
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toggle for it because I like to have, I'd like that too.
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Like I like to just think of it this way, it makes it a bit more
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immersive. If you're fighting like that big
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bad and there's no Health part and you just have to keep Keep
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him in your like, when is he going to go?
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You have to tactfully, bro, but you also get to tell by looking
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at the body now to like us. He's bleeding all over.
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My toes covered. Yeah.
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Like his Jaws ripped off. Like yeah, I'm like getting this
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guy. So yeah, I think there'll be a
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toggle for that definitely. But like I like the crafting I
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do like that you get gun sooner. But again I think that guns at
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this point are just like a thing of like yeah you can use them
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but like these games do the same thing where they add guns in.
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You have them they're seen as like a special item because they
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Things easier but then you get bored of it so fast.
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You end up, just going back going.
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Right back to melee. Yeah, to creating an axe that
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has like a song, the under something.
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I want the choice though for. Yeah.
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And they it looks like they give you that choice.
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Exactly. That's what I like.
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I'm watching the trailer as we speak.
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I'm rich. Re-watching it for myself.
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Yeah, I like that. I like the option to have a
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firearm. I like the option to be able to
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just to go fuck it. I'm going to you know just like
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you said, you like grab baseball bat but saw blades.
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And I'm going to attach wires those and a battery.
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And now it's electric. Baseball, saw blade thing,
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right? Right.
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And the humor is obviously here. This is guy.
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Is like biker. Dude, wearing a fucking bull
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rat. Mankini thing.
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Yeah, yeah, the weekend was gonna be there, but I don't know
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if I'm going to initially want them to lean.
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You too far into that ha ha ha ha ha moment every fuck, because
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that's the problem with some of these games is the humor is
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great. But then like it comes to like
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it's too much. They look at Atomic car.
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It's, I'm not saying there's a lot of humor that game, but
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like, if they would have just not had that fucking main
17:25
character. Yeah, I probably would have
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continued, by the way, I fucking stop playing atomic heart.
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Everyone out there. You're not getting enough sun on
17:33
top of cart because it's Russian propaganda and shit game.
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Anyways what, what am I dead Island?
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Sorry. No, this game looks like it's
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going to for me. It's going to be a 10 by this
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day, one, I'm excited. And I, you know what, I wish, I
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wish that they gave us the option for a 4-pack.
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I remember getting those in the day, the order days of you could
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get on Steam and there was a four player co-op game that
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would come out steam, allowed you to buy a four pack so you
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can go right to your friends and I got this is at that point.
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Yeah. Like I would love to do that,
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right? And I mean we technically still
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can do that, right? It's still occupied all
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different times I guess. Yes, well no.
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I mean not well you would just have to buy it one after the
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other because you can add multiple things to your car, but
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you could still do that. But like I would love to do that
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right. Pick.
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You know, it's you me, Logan and Matt or Logan and Ethan or
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whatever. Yeah.
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Hey, we're going to play Dead Island.
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Here's the people who are interested.
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We're all going to pitch in together.
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We'll buy, you know, you know, we'll all get a copy or whatever
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and and yeah, I mean like I'm excited to play it and I'm
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excited to play it with friends. That's what I mean, that's the
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whole enjoyment out of it as long as the server's don't run.
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The Dying Light servers did. I'm sure they're going to write
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issues. And I'm sure it's difficult
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because we are all individual characters hitting zombies with
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yeah, you know, unique things to us.
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So I hope that they kind of take that a step further.
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I wish they kind of covered that if they did, so that kind of
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gives me a little bit of they didn't, but it's something I can
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look past for the most part. There's a lot going on the
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screens though that I'm watching right now.
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There's a lot of Sam. There's a lot of explosions, a
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lot of different Ragdoll effects for these zombies switching.
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Weapons. Oh yeah.
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I can see like where I might, it sounds so shitty because I don't
19:24
want to come off as like an asshole.
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But for a game like this, I'll probably more forgiving that I
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was with Dying Light because this looks like it's actually
19:31
going to be fun. I don't hate the park or aspect
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of Dying Light. I just don't I just found to be
19:36
fucking repetitive and boring and a slog.
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Like but this looks like it's going to actually it's just
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things were. Yeah this leans in to have fun
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murder. A bunch of Zombies.
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Level up, you know. Yeah missions get cool stuff.
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Like the only thing I I guess a bring down for me, kind of is
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they have six characters to choose from but yet we can still
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only play with four people and I would be really fun to walk
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around with a crucifix. It's one of those things again,
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man. Like these, like companies, man.
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Like why not an even six. Yeah, right.
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Like it's not good. I can't imagine one more person
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would kill the server that much to more people at that point,
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but still like, yeah, that's real good.
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I don't think you people would really kill it and I think you
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would have more fun with that. Because again, it's something
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that sets it apart, right? Every single Co-op zombie game
20:26
has four floors at this point. I think Donna, no more room in
20:29
hell is seven or eight which is like that adds to it but then
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again, you know, no more room in hell is also a Half-Life 2 mod.
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Yeah. So you know, it has a lot of
20:38
issues with it on its own in that regard and then no more
20:41
room in hell to looks like it's going to be more or less the
20:43
same. Also, I mean it's going to take
20:44
them forever to come out with it because they still gotta like
20:46
get funding and all that stuff. But like yeah yeah I mean I'm
20:48
excited for this. Like at the end of the day
20:50
there's going to be some drawbacks but I'm excited to
20:52
just see what they show us. And I'm going to, I'm excited to
20:55
have fun with people playing at, you know, just getting lost in
20:58
this, this world again. Yeah.
21:00
Absolutely. This looks like it's gonna be a
21:01
fun game. I like I said, it's probably a
21:03
day one for me, I'm really interesting to play a zombie
21:05
game. A good zombie game.
21:09
You know, Daisy is a game, I go back to quite frequently
21:12
unfortunately, but I do because I want that zombie game that I
21:18
just will never have. So, right, is there anything
21:22
else on Dead Island? You want to talk about before we
21:24
get to our main two huge topic? No, I think I've wrapped it up.
21:30
I'm ready to go into this next one.
21:32
This exciting, you will be proud again.
21:34
Dead Island comes out on April 1st, April 21st, thank you.
21:40
I did take notes for this. I have some lists and notes,
21:43
I'll actually I'm going to share them in the chat right now.
21:46
He's rubbing off on you. Yeah, he is I figured this was a
21:49
it would be important for me to take notes.
21:50
He often hears the notes for this pretty?
21:52
Good notes, right? All right, come on.
21:54
I will I will judge live. Note, judging jot live?
21:57
No judging Pretty pretty good notes.
22:02
Yes, cool. Okay, what we good.
22:06
Just just looking at some of these things had to had to kind
22:10
of look around a bit, but yeah, I know, I got it.
22:13
My grammar is a bit. I don't ever put commas
22:16
anywhere. Big reveal to day.
22:21
Yes, after two weeks of ESL of all the big streamers, who play
22:27
this game? All the fucking competitive
22:30
players who are in the spotlight playing this game.
22:33
Are you playing it right now? By chance know, I was reading
22:36
Guinness World Record, you're an asshole of every fucking Twitter
22:41
account that you could think of, that may be connected to this
22:46
trolling and edging us. Not letting us come.
22:49
We finally got to blow that load today and Counter Strike 2, has
22:54
been announced this summer for free.
22:58
E, if you own csgo. Dude.
23:01
This is a, this is exciting. I will say though.
23:05
Pretty hilarious. Listening to Nick talked for the
23:07
past three weeks. A dude, I think it's coming.
23:09
I swear you know it's if it's not today it's going to be
23:11
tomorrow and he was like so confirmed on every day you
23:14
brought up and then today it's like hey there's 12 updates and
23:17
then all of a sudden, I saw Julian's, they get fucked and he
23:20
posted and I was like, oh look at that, like it came out,
23:23
typical valve. Do just to be like it's
23:25
Wednesday dude. It's like here you go.
23:27
It's like what? I mean this is so random and
23:31
middle of the day middle day, but all the week there's like,
23:35
yeah, whatever pretty pissed off that it's not out in the next
23:38
like two weeks was really hoping I'd have it for next week but
23:41
here I am. So here's some basic
23:43
information, about Counter Strike 2.
23:46
It is in beta right now. If you are lucky enough to get
23:49
in there are it does Factor on your steam profile, your steam
23:53
profile is trust. So that's if you're been banned
23:56
your steam level. You know how many hours you've
24:00
goes off, how many hours you have on Steam servers so that's
24:03
why they're Counter-Strike or any game that you play on Steam.
24:07
So if you're if you're not a shithead, you have potential to
24:10
get into this beta. If you played Counter-Strike,
24:13
you have potential to get into this beta.
24:16
All the bigwigs are playing shroud Flom, lyric a couple of
24:22
other guys are playing right now.
24:24
It looks really fucking good. It's hard to really judge though
24:28
because it And you're not really seeing the game in its full
24:32
potential because you are watching condensed version of it
24:35
on Twitch. So and it is in beta so you're
24:38
not seeing what you're going to be getting fully.
24:42
So there is, there is a three categories of remade Maps.
24:49
There's a full remake, a refurbished remake, and
24:51
Touchstone Maps, full remakes. So far, include overpassing,
24:56
Italy, wow. A key technical Difficulty is my
24:59
internet went out. So, this is take two and we're
25:02
going. So as I was saying, there is
25:05
three categories of map, right there is full remakes
25:09
refurbished and touched on maps. Touchstone Maps appear to be
25:13
like centerpiece Maps your desk to Mirage Mirage, no changes at
25:19
all. They're just going to make it
25:20
look pretty. Then you got refurbished Maps
25:24
such as nuke where it's like the light material used on nuke.
25:28
Is going to be, you know, made to look prettier and the map
25:32
itself is going to look more vibrant.
25:34
It seems to me more source to original textures and stuff like
25:37
that. Yeah, exactly.
25:39
And then we have our full remakes such as overpass in
25:42
Italy. And again, what I was saying
25:44
before, the technical difficulty is technical, difficulty
25:49
happened, was those two maps really needed the A40?
25:53
Make, yeah over past, definitely looks really cool and then I
25:57
liked it. It'll ease.
25:58
Like back. Yeah, I liked I liked Italy.
26:01
I remember Italy. I thought it was a lot of fun
26:03
excited to see more maps like Inferno.
26:06
If that's a refurbished or a touchstone because I'd like to
26:08
see some new stuff with that. Just in terms of the lighting
26:11
and whatnot excited to see. We saw a little bit.
26:14
I think of Aztec. Yes, if I remember correctly.
26:17
And I'm excited to see that too. So yeah, no, I'm I think that it
26:21
looks really pretty. I've seen some twitch streams of
26:26
like the other stuff. They don't they've done in
26:28
terms. Like visuals, like the the blood
26:30
effects are new. Yes, ragdolls.
26:33
Really nice. Rag dolls.
26:35
Are nice. I like that, like just like how
26:40
they showed it originally with like they're stickers which wear
26:43
off over time throughout the map.
26:44
They'll be blood textures on the ground in the walls do now is
26:46
what were they kind of get dried in overtime.
26:48
It's just a nice little thing to see, and then they've redone all
26:53
of the textures of the guns and all of your sort or csgo, like
26:57
skins and items. Carryover and also are prettier
27:01
now by Design as well better. Resume their higher res and
27:06
they're just going to look that much cleaner on your weapons.
27:09
Yes, due to the due to the engine they're using, they're
27:11
using source to, it's not some, it's great, it's great.
27:16
This is this for Nick goes wild, I am stoked so like, yes,
27:21
continue I'm stoked. No.
27:23
I mean, I was going to let you go.
27:24
If you had anything to say, just actually specifically, I mean,
27:27
the next thing, That we have to talk about, which is what I was
27:30
going to bring up is smokes are now completely different.
27:35
They're the same for everybody finally, so there's no one
27:38
weighs anymore. Yeah, I liked what blew my mind
27:43
about. This was how now they fill space
27:45
rather than going in with the walls.
27:48
Yeah. Now, instead of going into walls
27:49
and like just clipping through, they actually fill the space
27:52
around where you throw them. So like they showed an image of
27:55
somebody throwing it into like a circle.
27:57
And he, when you Throw it into the circle.
27:59
You saw it exploded and then it filled the rest of the circle
28:02
even on the other side because it doesn't have anywhere else to
28:05
go. So I thought that was really
28:07
cool along with now, you can I mean, you were always able to
28:11
shoot through smoke but when you shoot through smoke, now you
28:13
actually get to see a little bit on the other end because it
28:15
makes a little bit of a path same With Grenades grenades.
28:18
Now, blow the smoke a certain way.
28:20
So you can kind of see it a bit more, so like there's an actual
28:23
counter to that. Now, Yes, I watched on shrouds
28:27
stream. A perfect example of how this
28:31
smoke is going to be insane and change this game.
28:36
Yeah. You had on dust2 in CT, smoked
28:42
out, right? Yeah.
28:45
Well behind him, he had an offer.
28:47
So what he was doing was he was shooting through the smoke to
28:50
look down and what does that it through through mid?
28:54
Yeah, through me. So he was shooting through smoke
28:57
down mid, so the Opera can get a site on dude on the opposite
29:02
side, right? Fucking dude.
29:04
Shit was wild to see. Yeah.
29:07
So it's like you have a lot more ideas and like things you can
29:10
come up with now instead of just like up, smoked it out.
29:14
Now, we gotta wait, you know, or we gotta push through like like
29:17
that's and that's I think what they notice is that like when
29:19
you have smokes like that, probably maybe not in such a
29:21
professional sense. I don't know what they do in
29:23
terms of the pro stuff but like As as players in a regular cop
29:27
match, right? It's just kind of annoying.
29:29
You just got to sit there always the game here or just, yeah, I
29:32
just it just makes things slower.
29:33
So now I think the pace will be a little bit faster along with
29:37
that as well. It looks like they've redone the
29:39
grenade explosions as well. They look really nice the fire
29:44
from molotovs, looks really cool.
29:46
It does. I like that, there's, they've
29:51
received they've redone those things.
29:53
Obviously, flash grenades are flash grenades.
29:55
Anything crazy. And then I like that.
30:01
Have you seen when? Or it's in the trailer when
30:02
somebody shoots a guy in the back with the Zeus, it actually
30:04
goes around his body like a taser.
30:07
I thought it was pretty cool to just a little things to, to add
30:12
to the molly, the molotov, it's actually using the same Shader
30:17
because like in Half-Life Alex, that Shader for that, but like
30:20
when you find a bottle of alcohol and you actually like
30:22
move it around. You could like see the liquid
30:24
Shader, Yeah, that was like revolutionary.
30:27
They're using that Shader for this game, for the bottle, for
30:31
the bottle of Molotov cocktail. It's just like a fun little
30:33
fact. You know what I mean?
30:34
Like, Yeah, they're putting a lot, a lot of love into this.
30:39
This has been, this has been in the works for three years from
30:42
what I'm from what I've been able to tell from a couple
30:45
people on Twitter being like you know I put three years into this
30:48
and you guys are finally able to see.
30:50
So like that is fucking really cool to see that at valve right
30:54
now, there's something actually getting pushed out of the
30:56
pipeline. Something as big as Counter
30:58
Strike 2, we all thought I thought it was going to be
31:01
source to I thought was going to be a port that's all.
31:04
I thought it was going to. And that's not what we're
31:07
getting. I don't think we've seen
31:09
everything yet. Yeah, I mean it's still like we
31:11
talked about a while ago it's still moral.
31:13
It's still see us go like yeah it's csgo enough to know what
31:18
that is but it's refresh enough to feel exciting and new again.
31:21
So it's not like to me, I do I consider this a brand new game
31:24
not yet. Like I'd have to really play it
31:26
and see how it goes. I'd like there to be some, they
31:29
haven't really talked much in terms of game modes or if
31:32
they're changing anything. And I understand that there's an
31:34
equal of like, well, it's only, it's Pretty much 55 all the
31:36
time. Anyway, I'm cool with that, but
31:38
I also wanted something. I think I mentioned it to Nick a
31:40
while ago. I'd love to see and I'm gonna
31:42
get butchered for saying this. If we had like a huge following,
31:46
I'd be dead the next day, I promise you happiness.
31:48
Erica, I wouldn't mind to see, I wouldn't mind seeing like a
31:53
battle pass like unlocking, skins and, and having, like,
31:58
keeping me progressing because eventually, you know, you play
32:01
five ten count matches in a day and you'll lose all of them.
32:03
You're kind of not really wanting to play.
32:05
A anymore and I did and to be honest, that would still go with
32:09
even if I had a battle pass or something like that, but it's
32:12
just like it's that other thing of like, okay, maybe I'm not
32:15
going to do good every match but I'm trying to unlock this off
32:18
skin, right? Right.
32:19
You know what I mean? So like I'm putting up with it
32:21
or like I this is my goal instead of it's not my goal
32:23
isn't to win every single game obviously.
32:26
I mean that's what I want to do regardless but like even if I
32:29
lose I'm not immediately discouraged.
32:31
I want to keep going to unlock this cool skin.
32:33
Yeah, which yeah. I hated to see the new skins
32:36
they come up with with all this new stuff, they said that some
32:38
of them are actually going to be able to look even cooler.
32:41
Now with some of the stuff they've done to it, I think we
32:46
should mention that the servers are now tick less, which means
32:52
what you see, is what you get, and what you do is, what
32:54
happens? You're not going to get
32:56
Counter-Strike to anymore. Yeah, like before you would have
33:00
this like it would be something where you would shoot somebody,
33:03
you think you'd kill them and it would be like, Don't like, you
33:06
know, 52 + 2 or something like that.
33:09
But you know, you hit them, three or four times, you saw
33:11
yourself hit them, three or four times, what the servers are 64
33:14
Tech they're so slow that like just that little bit was missed.
33:18
So now that no longer happens, which I means.
33:20
Now that means you will actually have trades where it's like you
33:24
and I shoot each other at the same time.
33:25
And we both like we died, which I can't wait to test that out.
33:29
Yeah, like I'm excited to test things like that out.
33:30
Now where it's like, you know, is there now an official like,
33:33
not official but like, is there a true To trade where it's like.
33:37
Yeah, we traded where it's like, I killed you and you killed my
33:40
buddy or something like that. Like, that's what we consider
33:43
trade now. I mean, I could be, I could be
33:45
completely wrong on some of this, but like, I really am
33:47
excited to see that. I like the smoke trail with the
33:49
bullets from Ops really fucking even like grenade.
33:54
Yeah, really fucking good when it exploded.
33:56
I was a God damn. The fire on the Molly, we have
33:59
the the tick list servers are going to be fucking truly a
34:03
keynote here to see See them in action, I'm excited.
34:08
I feel like a lot of people who play CS May leave with a bad
34:13
taste in my mouth. Because like what you said,
34:16
like, you could see yourself hitting these people.
34:19
Yeah. But somehow, they got you prior,
34:22
even though you were the one who laid, bullet first headshot,
34:25
they that the server missed it and therefore you were dead.
34:29
So this is going to be huge for Counter, Strike huge, for
34:32
Counter Strike. It's a sub.
34:33
Kick server ticklish, pretty much so it's going to be, it's
34:38
gonna be revolutionary for Counter Strike, Michelle.
34:41
I like that they said that instead of being like it's 128
34:43
tick like they said, they didn't give you a specific techno more.
34:46
They just said there it is. It is Tick list.
34:49
Yes, you know, I thought that was kind of cool for them to
34:52
just be like, actually, this is how we're different, you know,
34:54
not just upgrading to 128, we've done something different with
34:57
it, which, again, two people who know better than me, they
34:59
understand what that means. I have no idea, it's a very
35:02
complex system that I don't, I can't understand.
35:05
And I don't think any of our friends could understand what I
35:07
understand. Is this again?
35:09
How it was described to us. What See is what you get and
35:12
what you do is what is, you know, is what happens and that
35:15
is what I like. If I shoot you in the fucking
35:18
head I want you to drop right specially in the game like
35:21
Counter-Strike where every bullet counts.
35:23
Yeah, definitely you know, the game does release this summer,
35:28
it is free for those who own Counter Strike.
35:30
Go. That is huge that they could
35:33
have they could have slapped a price tag on us.
35:36
Yeah. Oh yeah.
35:37
For but I mean they've had csgo being free for the past.
35:40
Like what? For five years?
35:41
Now so it only makes sense that like.
35:43
So that's different though is that now it's going to cost you
35:45
probably 15 20 bucks to play to get it if you don't already own
35:48
it which is fair because it was 15 bucks for csgo originally and
35:52
that is what gave us all prime, which is what they use.
35:56
Now, it's for like better matchmaking.
35:58
So if you, if you have Prime that means you've given them a
36:01
specific phone number and actual phone number, and you've paid
36:04
money. So you get better matches, which
36:06
I think is only fair because realistically, anybody could
36:08
just load up a free version or, you know, New account with a new
36:12
game and just cheat. So that you're kind of avoiding
36:16
that in a way of like, no, I don't want to play.
36:19
I hope that there's maybe some new anti-cheat that is so funny.
36:24
Funny that you brought this up. Let me go to this guy's page
36:26
with a quick. So, there was this one minute,
36:31
let me find it. Sorry, you guys, where is it?
36:37
I'm watching, shred played on my other monitor, it's so fucking
36:40
good. Like I know it's Counter-Strike,
36:42
I get it, but it's so fucking good.
36:44
It's fun. It's my God, I can't find his
36:48
profile shrouds playing again. Basically somebody dove into
36:52
Tom's, kick the website into the CSS and HTML, and I found a
37:02
hidden or not published line of code for anti-cheat that hasn't
37:08
been announced yet. So there is going to be new
37:11
Anti-cheat. It looks like it just hasn't
37:12
been announced or highlighted yet because they write this was
37:16
hidden HTML and hidden CSS guy who it is, they're on the
37:21
website for new anti-cheat. If you dig for it, they just
37:25
haven't touched on it cuz they released three videos today.
37:27
Basically, the three videos were tick list, this particular
37:31
servers, smokes and Maps. Yeah, and like this, the source
37:35
engine working with it. All I expect Within the next
37:41
coming you know upcoming weeks we're going to get more videos.
37:44
Oh yeah, I'm sure especially now the big streamers are playing
37:47
it. Everyone's enjoying it from what
37:49
I'm seeing, but let's keep it fucking rolling.
37:53
So your inventory transfers over and he case you've opened any
37:57
fucking skin. You got that sweet ass, 150,000
38:01
dollar knife, you have guess what?
38:02
You're still an asshole and it's still transfers over to see us
38:05
too. Yep, can't complain.
38:08
No, there's new UI. Or would you like Jim sucks?
38:12
No, no I don't have anything to say.
38:13
The UI looks great. I'm looks really excited to see
38:15
that. Yeah, lets you don't need to do
38:17
my favorite feature. The deck of cards?
38:20
Yeah, the deck of cards. The bottom four kills?
38:21
Yeah, I think so, if you get an ace, you actually get a fucking.
38:24
I wonder what it does. Like if it'll like animate for
38:26
you. If you get an ace or something
38:27
like that, like that was really neat to see.
38:29
It has the players name on the deck like yeah, that's cool.
38:32
It was really cool to see that. I didn't get a good look at the
38:37
main menu, but I'm also going to go out on Limb here and say the
38:42
UI we might be seeing for the main menu.
38:44
I'm going to try to find it but I'm going to assume that's a
38:47
placeholder. I'm going to assume a lot of
38:49
like menus and map pictures and all that is we placeholder for
38:55
release. Well, look like the lobby when
38:58
you're in the lobby and you got your buddies, they actually are
39:00
in the background with you wearing like their gloves, their
39:03
character skins, their their weapon skins.
39:06
I like that, but I think that's just always a nice touch.
39:08
I think that games more games should do.
39:09
That for sure. Yeah.
39:12
No. I like the I like that.
39:14
The the character's name is on the card that helps with people
39:18
asking questions. Yeah, he'll I can look right
39:20
down instead of having to like tab, see who's dead, you know,
39:24
say so awesome dude. So yeah, that's pretty cool.
39:28
Yeah. I mean I'm excited.
39:29
Like this is I'm trying to avoid getting so excited like that
39:34
where I'm like back in high school years but I think I have
39:36
to do that if I want to be good because I did just play with
39:38
Julian, Matt Jake. And Jane and I got my ass hands.
39:42
All of you got your ass handed to you.
39:43
From what I heard, we've actually we got to you and
39:46
Julian. So basically, on the server, you
39:49
got Jules in heaven. Who are the two like top.
39:53
Yes, you are top FPS dudes in the server.
39:55
He smiled. He's liking this lighten up a
39:57
bit but like that. You guys are so like if you guys
40:00
getting your ass kicked, that means you haven't played in a
40:02
minute or played it, you know, as hard as you usually do.
40:07
I will be going crazy with Counter-Strike all over again
40:11
like I did win. 1.6 came out. Yeah.
40:14
That's how old I am Canadian condition zero and everything
40:20
like that in between. Yeah, it's gonna be, um, I'm
40:24
excited for this to think this game, like Counter-Strike can
40:29
exist because of a mod. Yeah, a half-life mod you know I
40:34
mean like yeah this is why we have this competitive scene
40:38
Doom, Quake unreal. Counter-Strike are like The
40:42
Grandfather's of FPS molt online FPS.
40:46
Yeah. And definitely, It's fucking
40:48
amazing to see Counter-Strike. Come back like this.
40:51
I'm excited to see more videos and we will be doing hotfixes.
40:54
I'm sure the more videos we get, the more information we get on
40:58
Counter-Strike. Oh yeah.
40:59
I'm going to be doing a lot more videos.
41:01
On this, is there anything you wanted to see changed?
41:04
Because for me I kind of would have liked to see them
41:07
experiment with the weapon the by system.
41:11
So know what you could really do to change that.
41:14
So yeah. In terms of the actual system
41:15
itself, I don't know if I'd want anything to change on that.
41:19
I didn't see the UI f. It looks any different or if
41:21
it's better or anything like that.
41:24
I do. I don't know something about.
41:28
So, like I saw obviously that all the guns have been Remodeled
41:32
and stuff like that, but I guess I was still left wanting more
41:34
out of it. Like, maybe just, I don't know
41:37
what I was necessarily looking for, but like, it just felt, I
41:39
mean, still say me to me, they sound funny right now, to, they
41:43
do sound funny, but I was specifically, I wanted that
41:46
like, I was not super hyped about the gun sounding the same.
41:49
Like I wanted there to be updates to the gun sounds.
41:52
Yeah. Specifically, I would like to
41:55
see, I don't know if the animations are different more.
42:00
Correct animation. Ins?
42:01
Because I think in for the m4a1-s he still slaps that
42:06
little part of it which is like that does basically nothing it's
42:10
a but that's a fucking what like a know.
42:14
So it's like a, it's like a charge handle.
42:16
Well, yeah. But he, yeah, but you he slaps
42:19
it forward. But pulls it back.
42:21
Yeah. Like you know I'd love to see
42:24
actually for the akas. I'd love to see, you know, the
42:27
Iraqi reload I think is what it's called.
42:29
I love to see that. Like that's just To meet to me.
42:32
That reload is still so cool. It's the game that comes to mind
42:35
whenever I see it is. Cod.
42:37
Modern Warfare 2, has it and it's like, it's still just cool
42:40
as hell to watch people. Like it just to see the
42:42
animation done where he holds it by the handle and stuff.
42:44
It just cool. Yeah.
42:47
But then, it's really funny and cod when you see him do that and
42:49
then you look and he had no stock.
42:50
So, he's like, how are you holding that?
42:53
Look like for a kick but like, for Four Guns?
42:56
Yeah, I'd like to see some updated animations for sure.
42:58
I'd like to sounds to be obviously, refined I like that
43:01
they're different Current so far, I don't know.
43:02
I like you said, like if they're placeholder or whatever, like -
43:06
you guns, that's another thing I'm here as well.
43:09
Yeah. Are we getting new guns?
43:10
Are we getting a bunch of new maths with everything to not a
43:13
bunch of the Caribbean? Oldies back, Riot Yeldon,
43:16
Counter-Strike. Are we gonna?
43:18
Yeah, like, what are we going to get here?
43:19
Like, I'd love to see some cool stuff.
43:21
But yeah, no. I mean other than that I can't
43:24
say I really like I hope. Like I said, I hope there's some
43:27
sort of system for progression in a way that makes it a bit
43:29
more rewarding instead of just getting like a metal.
43:31
End of every operation. Yeah.
43:34
I'd like to see something more in that regard.
43:36
Other than that though, nothing really comes to mind like, I'm
43:40
excited. I want to play more of it.
43:42
I want to get better at it and I want to like you know, climb the
43:44
ranks again still. I also want to flex some of the
43:49
Skins I got. So yeah which is sadly, you
43:54
know, as far as we know, they're still no like I said battle pass
43:57
system. That means I will have to buy
43:59
them and I don't want to do that, which Means Evan and I are
44:02
going to get drunk and we go put it. $20 can see we have no, get
44:09
something out and it's like I'll do that.
44:11
And then I do that, I get nothing and then I do that 60
44:14
more times, I would love for the community people who don't hop
44:17
into the server to hop into the server.
44:18
When you and I are wasted opening up boxes.
44:21
It's literally like a senior peaky.
44:22
Blinders when everyone's like around the table bedding.
44:25
All right. All right, you got to put it on.
44:26
Three got booted out. Three unusual, yes.
44:28
Key number five. All right, all right.
44:31
And then Lose anyway and everybody's like, well, you
44:33
suck. What is like, what don't know?
44:37
I do have a couple moments of good, good deal with their with
44:41
valve and Gabe Newell himself where he gets his be like, Aven.
44:44
He gifted me that op neo-noir, which is like, super, I actually
44:49
want to look it up. See if it's rare.
44:50
What, you know, the next puppet. I'm going to do like, Gabe,
44:54
Newell Gabe, Newell pop it. There you go.
44:57
That'll be funny. I'd like to see that.
44:59
I'm going to hit up my boat. Felt valued like, bro.
45:01
Ditch the combine we're suing. The Gabe Newell puppet.
45:04
They get huge. Yeah.
45:06
That'd be awesome. The white and gave in the wide,
45:09
exactly? Yeah, dude, there was one last
45:13
thing I had in my notes. I found it to be interesting.
45:16
This was actually spotted by Tyler McVicker.
45:18
The passionate gamer the new in there was a headset seen.
45:23
I'm one of the developers desks yeah.
45:26
Valve a while ago, had been because the headset or the
45:30
floating year Set for the index. Audio-wise is really good.
45:36
Yeah they it's a great piece of like Hardware so they were
45:40
trying to I guess work on something where as a standalone
45:43
headset like their own index headset.
45:45
So like I like you and I got our lives.
45:47
Oh yeah. So like a valve created headset.
45:50
That'd be cool. You could see that on the desk
45:54
of one of the developers. Oh, and actually I could point
45:57
that out to you right here, if you will join the live stream.
46:01
Do that really quick or alive so I can get your reaction on that.
46:05
So you could I'm wondering if like what were truly going to be
46:10
getting from valve this year. I actually went right to the
46:14
marker so that's perfect. So hop in here.
46:18
Yeah, yeah. I'll look at it.
46:20
So, do you see like this right here?
46:22
Oh yeah. Yes, yeah, that's the.
46:24
That's the, that's the that's the little headset that I'm
46:27
referring to. I'm wondering if valve is just
46:30
going to go fucking ball. Al's of the wall.
46:33
My they might, they might just, they might demolish everything.
46:36
Who knows? Fucking hey, it's yeah.
46:39
I mean, I'm excited. I have nothing more to add.
46:42
I am excited to play. It is rejuvenated, my love for
46:45
it. So I hope that it Okay, don't
46:48
get abused too hard and with that, my friends that is this
46:52
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46:55
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46:59
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47:03
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47:05
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47:08
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47:12
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