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- 0:00Welcome to Reformed Thinking, the show where we take big
- 0:02ideas, challenging questions, and some of the most vital
- 0:06discussions from scripture and thought leaders, and we sort of
- 0:10distilled them for you. Our goal really is to equip you
- 0:12with clear understanding and maybe some fresh insights
- 0:15helping you grasp significant truths for Christian living.
- 0:18And it truly is our privilege to dig into these crucial topics
- 0:22with you. Our desire, I think, as always,
- 0:24is for you to gain knowledge quickly.
- 0:26But you know, with a rigorous and thorough approach, right?
- 0:30Uncovering those pivotal insights that shape our
- 0:33comprehension of God's ways and His divine plan, we want to get
- 0:37beyond just the surface level. Absolutely.
- 0:40And today we're tackling a topic that stands really at the very
- 0:43center of God's design for humanity and Christian living,
- 0:47marriage, along with the difficult but let's face it,
- 0:50often encountered issues of divorce and remarriage.
- 0:52Yes, our deep dive today focuses on the direct teachings of Jesus
- 0:56on these matters. It's seen through the keen
- 0:58analysis of John Piper and his work All the Jesus Commanded.
- 1:02Significant work. It is, and this is a topic that
- 1:05touches nearly every life. And Jesus's words here are,
- 1:08well, they're especially pertinent.
- 1:10They really are, and we have a rich collection of source
- 1:13material before us for this discussion.
- 1:15We've got direct biblical passages from Matthew, Mark and
- 1:18Luke. The.
- 1:18Cortex. Exactly.
- 1:20Alongside John Piper's careful interpretive work, his exegesis
- 1:25trying to get at the original meaning, our mission today is
- 1:28pretty specific. To unpack Jesus's standard for
- 1:31marital faithfulness and to consider how radically it stands
- 1:35apart from, you know, current cultural views and even how it
- 1:38contrasts with certain prior interpretations within Jewish
- 1:42tradition at the time. And a big part of that is
- 1:44understanding the meaning of those so-called exception
- 1:47clauses in Matthew's Gospel. Yes, those have certainly caused
- 1:50a lot of head scratching over the centuries they have.
- 1:53So let's unpack this first part. Jesus clearly did not simply
- 1:56echo the prevailing views on marriage and divorce of His day.
- 2:00No, not at all. Our sources indicate he set a
- 2:02remarkably higher standard for marital faithfulness than was
- 2:06commonly practiced or even, you know, allowed by Moses's law or
- 2:10by the Jewish teachers of his time.
- 2:11That's right, it was quite a bold declaration, especially
- 2:14when you think about the long standing authority of the Mosaic
- 2:17law. So what exactly made his stance
- 2:19so different? Well, what's truly striking here
- 2:21is that Jesus didn't affirm the general permission for divorce
- 2:24found back in Deuteronomy 24, OK?
- 2:27Instead, he made this pivotal statement as in Matthew 19.8,
- 2:31explaining that Moses's concession was owing to the
- 2:33hardness of the human heart. Hardness of heart.
- 2:36It's a key phrase. It is, and it's a critical point
- 2:39because it suggests Jesus wasn't just adjusting some minor
- 2:43regulation. He was recalibrating the very
- 2:46core understanding of marriage. To really grasp how
- 2:49revolutionary that was, we need to picture the world he was
- 2:52speaking into, right? Divorce was, well, pretty
- 2:56common. Distressingly common, yes, and
- 2:59often initiated by a man for a whole range of reasons, some
- 3:02frankly incredibly trivial. Can you give us a bit more
- 3:05context on those reasons? What were the sort of debates or
- 3:08common understandings back then? Sure, you had these rabbinic
- 3:11schools, most famously the schools of Hillel and Shamai,
- 3:15and they passionately debated the grounds for divorce.
- 3:18But the basic right to divorce? That was rarely questioned.
- 3:21So the debate was why not if? Largely, yes.
- 3:25The school of Hillel, for instance, took a very liberal
- 3:28approach to Deuteronomy 24.1. They interpreted the phrase some
- 3:32indecency to mean almost anything that displeased the
- 3:35husband. Like what?
- 3:37It could be as minor as burning his dinner, speaking
- 3:40disrespectfully, or even if you just found another woman more
- 3:42attractive. Their position was essentially
- 3:45that a man could divorce his wife for any cause.
- 3:47Wow. OK.
- 3:48And Shamay? The school of Shamay was
- 3:50stricter. They argued that indecency
- 3:52referred only to actual sexual sin or serious moral misconduct.
- 3:57So a higher bar, but still allowing divorce.
- 3:59Exactly. Even the stricter view
- 4:01recognized grounds for divorce. OK, so Jesus steps into this
- 4:05environment. You've got a popular view
- 4:07allowing divorce for almost anything, and a stricter view
- 4:11allowing it for serious misconduct.
- 4:14How does his hardness of heart comment directly challenge all
- 4:18of that? Well, when Jesus says Moses made
- 4:20this concession because of the hardness of your hearts, he's
- 4:23doing more than just pointing out human stubbornness or
- 4:27sinfulness. He's saying in essence, look,
- 4:30this provision was never God's ideal.
- 4:32It was never the plan A right. It was a regrettable necessity
- 4:35born out of human fallenness and the, you know, the deep seated
- 4:38resistance of the human spirit to God's perfect design.
- 4:42So he wasn't endorsing it as a good thing.
- 4:43None at all. He was acknowledging a reality
- 4:46of human sinfulness that required some kind of regulation
- 4:49to prevent even worse chaos and injustice.
- 4:52But crucially, Jesus isn't there just to regulate sin.
- 4:56What's he doing then? He's saying I'm not here to
- 4:58lower the bar to accommodate your heart and hearts.
- 5:00I'm here to raise it back to God's original, unbreakable
- 5:03design for marriage from the very beginning of creation.
- 5:06Back to Genesis. Back to Genesis.
- 5:09He's recalibrating our understanding, shifting it away
- 5:12from a human track you can just tear up towards a divine
- 5:16covenant that reflects God's own faithfulness.
- 5:18That's a huge distinction, not just adjusting a law, but
- 5:22appealing to a foundational reality.
- 5:24So what are the actual components of this higher
- 5:28standard that Jesus is championing?
- 5:30How does it look in practice? Well, his opposition to
- 5:33remarriage after divorce is really rooted in how firm he
- 5:36understood the marriage bond itself to be.
- 5:39OK, he affirmed, and this is quoted in Matthew 19.6 and Mark
- 5:4210.9, that God has joined married couples together and
- 5:46therefore no man should separate them.
- 5:47What God has joined that famous line?
- 5:50That's the one, and it points to marriage as A1 flesh
- 5:52relationship. That's a a deep spiritual and
- 5:55relational unity that goes way beyond just the physical.
- 5:58To joining by God himself. Yes, and he saw this implied not
- 6:02only in 2.2 for the creation account, you know, leave father
- 6:05and mother, hold fast to his wife, become one flesh, but
- 6:08also, and this is surprising to many, he saw hints of it within
- 6:12the wording of Moses's law itself.
- 6:14OK, hold on. Moses's law hinting at this
- 6:17higher standard? That sounds counterintuitive,
- 6:20given that Moses allowed divorce.
- 6:22How could the law both permit divorce and imply this higher,
- 6:25unyielding standard? Seems paradoxical.
- 6:28It does at first glance, but it's a subtle and often missed
- 6:31detail. Deuteronomy 24, the very passage
- 6:34allowing divorce versus one through 4, describes a woman who
- 6:37gets divorced, remarries, and then if that second husband
- 6:40divorces her or dies, she cannot return to the first husband, and
- 6:45the reason given is that she has become defiled.
- 6:47That word defiled is key. Why defiled?
- 6:50It suggests that the initial one flesh relationship, the one
- 6:53established by the first marriage, isn't entirely wiped
- 6:55out by the divorce, or even by the second marriage, At least
- 6:58not in God's eyes. Interesting.
- 7:00So while Moses permitted divorce as a concession, this defilement
- 7:03implied it wasn't the ideal path, not the one most honoring
- 7:06to God. And it suggested that the
- 7:08original bond still held some kind of spiritual reality.
- 7:11So the concession itself contained a hint of the ideal it
- 7:14was falling short of. Exactly.
- 7:16It was a concession to human stubbornness to sin in a fallen
- 7:19world, not a celebration of God's original plan.
- 7:23That defilement indicates something sacred, Something of
- 7:26God's design was still, in a sense, active, despite the legal
- 7:30split it signaled. The ideal was still that single,
- 7:34lifelong union. That discussion about Moses's
- 7:37concession and the sort of lingering reality of the first
- 7:41bond, it really brings up incredibly complex real world
- 7:45situations for people today. Oh, absolutely.
- 7:47What does this suggest for those in second or third marriages may
- 7:51be entered into after a divorce, especially if the first marriage
- 7:54was, say, really difficult or even involved abuse?
- 7:57Does this high standard mean those current unions should be
- 7:59dissolved? That's where it gets incredibly
- 8:02painful and practical. It does, and that's an extremely
- 8:04vital question. It's where the nuance of grace
- 8:07has to apply alongside the truth of the standard OK.
- 8:09Our sources, including Piper's analysis, indicate that even a
- 8:13marriage entered into that is considered disobedient to God's
- 8:16ideal, like a second or third marriage after a divorce, should
- 8:20not then be broken. Should not be broken.
- 8:22What? Well, part of the reasoning goes
- 8:24back again to Deuteronomy 24.4. That same passage.
- 8:28It explicitly forbids a wife from returning to her first
- 8:30husband after a second marriage, calling such a return an
- 8:34abomination. An abomination that's strong
- 8:37language in Scripture. Very strong.
- 8:39It signifies something deeply offensive to God, something that
- 8:42violates his moral order. And the implication drawn is
- 8:46that while a second marriage might exist outside God's
- 8:49perfect initial design, dissolving it would be creating
- 8:52yet another broken covenant, another offense.
- 8:55So don't add another broken promise on top of whatever ever
- 8:58happened before. Precisely.
- 8:59Instead, such unions, though may be initiated imperfectly, should
- 9:03be acknowledged as less than ideal, Yes, but they can still
- 9:07be made holy through God's mercy and forgiveness.
- 9:10The point is not to pile additional violations on
- 9:12previous ones. It's seen as better in God's
- 9:15eyes not to create more broken promises by dissolving a present
- 9:19established union, even if it began outside God's perfect
- 9:22will. So the call is for faithfulness
- 9:24within the current reality. Yes, faithfulness within the
- 9:27current circumstances, seeking God's mercy and living honorably
- 9:32within that relationship rather than trying to unravel existing
- 9:35bonds which would often just bring more chaos and pain,
- 9:38especially to children involved. That's a really crucial pastoral
- 9:41point. So while Jesus is setting this
- 9:44incredibly high bar, there's also this recognition of the
- 9:48brokenness of the world and how grace applies to existing
- 9:52situations. Yes, exactly.
- 9:54Now let's turn to Jesus's own direct, very powerful
- 9:56declarations on this, as recorded in Mark and Luke.
- 9:59These statements are often where the discussion really starts for
- 10:02many people because they seem so clear, so absolute.
- 10:05They do. They seem to offer very little
- 10:07wiggle room. Take Luke 16.18.
- 10:09Right, Luke 16.18 states everyone who divorces his wife
- 10:14and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a
- 10:16woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.
- 10:18Just lays it out there. It does, and it's plain reading.
- 10:21It appears to call all remarriage after divorce
- 10:24adultery, full stop. That is very firm declaration.
- 10:27It leaves almost no ambiguity in the phrasing itself.
- 10:30No, it sets an extraordinarily high bar for marital fidelity
- 10:34and permanence. Really pushing against those
- 10:37cultural assumptions we talked about, Jesus is speaking in a
- 10:40way that directly challenges the legal norms of his day.
- 10:43And this point always gives me pause.
- 10:46If a divorce is legally recognized, maybe even state
- 10:49sanctioned, why does Jesus still call a subsequent marriage
- 10:53adultery? It's like he's operating on a
- 10:55completely different legal framework.
- 10:57That's really the heart of it. The core argument based on
- 11:01Jesus's words is that the first marriage is considered still
- 11:04valid in God's eyes, regardless of any civil or legal divorce
- 11:08decree. So the human paperwork doesn't
- 11:10nullify the divine bond. That's the idea.
- 11:13Jesus was directly opposing the common cultural assumption of
- 11:16his time we're getting. That divorce certificate was
- 11:18basically seen as a green light for remarriage, right?
- 11:21His statements in Mark 10 and Luke 16 were a direct rejection
- 11:24of that view. For Jesus, the human certificate
- 11:27didn't and couldn't nullify the divine bond God himself had
- 11:31established. He was speaking to the spiritual
- 11:33and covenantal reality of marriage.
- 11:35Which he viewed as a creation ordinance.
- 11:37Yes, a divine institution and humans don't have the ultimate
- 11:41authority to sever what God has joined.
- 11:43Therefore, to enter into a new sexual union while that original
- 11:47divinely recognized covenant is still considered active, well,
- 11:51by definition, that's adultery. So if the bond remains in God's
- 11:55eyes, what about the person who is, let's say, the innocent
- 11:58party? If someone's spouse divorces
- 12:02them, maybe completely against their will, does this strict
- 12:06rule still apply to them? It seems particularly hard to
- 12:09expect the wrong person to remain unmarried, potentially
- 12:12for life. According to Luke 16.18, yes, it
- 12:15does seem to apply. The verse also says he who
- 12:18marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.
- 12:21Even if she was the innocent party.
- 12:23Even if she was presumably the innocent party in the divorce,
- 12:26meaning her husband maybe had no right in God's eyes to divorce
- 12:29her. That's a tough teaching.
- 12:30It is. It's a challenging declaration
- 12:32because it calls the forsaken person, man or woman, to
- 12:36demonstrate the holiness of their vows and the nature of the
- 12:38marriage covenant by not marrying someone else.
- 12:41So it highlights that Jesus's opposition to remarriage isn't
- 12:44based on fault. It seems based on the sacred,
- 12:46unbreakable nature of the marriage bond itself, not
- 12:50primarily on who was at fault for the divorce or the suffering
- 12:53caused. The Covenant remains regardless
- 12:56of the circumstances of its civil dissolution.
- 12:59It implies the innocent party is called to a radical kind of
- 13:02faithfulness. Yes, to live out the truth that
- 13:05their first marriage is still valid in God's eyes, even if
- 13:08their spouse has abandoned it. It's a very high calling,
- 13:11requiring deep reliance on God for strength and contentment in
- 13:15what might be a life of unwanted singleness.
- 13:18And Mark's account reinforces the same absolute prohibition.
- 13:21No exceptions there either. Precisely.
- 13:23Mark 10.1112 repeats the core prohibition, but makes it
- 13:27explicit for women too. Whoever divorces his wife and
- 13:30marries another commits adultery against her, and if she divorces
- 13:33her husband and marries another, she commits adultery.
- 13:36So it covers both spouses initiating divorce.
- 13:39Yes, just like in Luke. There are 0 exceptions mentioned
- 13:42here. While men initiating divorce was
- 13:44far more common, women initiating divorce wasn't
- 13:47completely unheard of in certain Roman or Hellenistic contexts.
- 13:51Mark makes sure the principle applies equally OK.
- 13:54So from Mark and Luke, what we have are these seemingly
- 13:58absolute prohibitions against remarriage after divorce.
- 14:02Doesn't matter who initiated it doesn't matter who is perceived
- 14:05to be at fault. That's right, they present a
- 14:07unified and very strict view. Marriage as an unbreakable
- 14:11covenant, a lifelong bond divinely instituted, not easily
- 14:14dissolved by human action or decree.
- 14:17These passages really set the baseline for Jesus view.
- 14:21A vision of permanence and faithfulness that stood in
- 14:24really stark contrast to a surrounding culture.
- 14:26Definitely. OK, so we've established Jesus's
- 14:28incredibly firm stance for Mark and Luke.
- 14:31But here's the twist. Here's the challenge that keeps
- 14:34scholars and just regular readers up at night.
- 14:37Matthew's Gospel. It introduces clauses that, on
- 14:40the surface anyway, seem to allow for exceptions to this
- 14:42absolute prohibition. Right, this is the friction
- 14:45point. This is where the Gospel seem
- 14:46maybe to be at odds, and it's the source of so much steady and
- 14:50frankly, disagreement. What are these specific clauses
- 14:53in Matthew? OK, there are two key passages.
- 14:56Matthew 5.32 states everyone who divorces his wife except on the
- 15:01ground of sexual immorality makes her commit adultery, and
- 15:05whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
- 15:08Except on the ground of sexual immorality.
- 15:10That's the phrase. And then again in Matthew 19.9,
- 15:13whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality and
- 15:16marries another, commits adultery.
- 15:19Same exceptions. Same exception phrase.
- 15:21These clauses are what make Matthew's account stand out, and
- 15:24they've sparked literally centuries of intense discussion
- 15:27and quite varied interpretations.
- 15:29They introduced this phrase that's just absent from the
- 15:32parallel accounts in Mark and Luke.
- 15:34So how are these clauses generally interpreted?
- 15:36What's the sort of common understanding of sexual
- 15:39immorality here that has shaped so much Christian thought and
- 15:42practice? Well, the most common
- 15:43interpretation held by most commentators and many Christians
- 15:46throughout history is that these exception clauses mean Jesus did
- 15:50allow for divorce and subsequent remarriage in cases where there
- 15:54has been sexual immorality by one spouse.
- 15:57And sexual immorality is usually taken to mean.
- 15:59Typically it's understood as meaning adultery, we Shia in
- 16:03Greek, or perhaps a broader category of marital
- 16:06unfaithfulness happening within an established consummated
- 16:10marriage. OK, this interpretation is, you
- 16:14know, the prevailing view that has guided a lot of Christian
- 16:16thinking and church discipline on the issue for centuries.
- 16:20It essentially grants one specific ground, marital
- 16:23unfaithfulness for divorce that would then permit remarriage
- 16:26without committing adultery. But as we've set up, this
- 16:30traditional interpretation seems to create a pretty significant
- 16:34tension, maybe even a contradiction with those
- 16:36absolute statements we just looked at in Mark and Luke.
- 16:38Exactly. If Matthew allows this exception
- 16:41for adultery in an existing marriage, and Mark and Luke
- 16:44present no exceptions at all, how do we reconcile that?
- 16:47That's the puzzle. It feels like the Gospels are
- 16:49saying different things on a really fundamental issue.
- 16:52This is the crucial point, and it's where our author John Piper
- 16:55shares his own sort of intellectual wrestling with
- 16:58this. He mentions that he initially
- 17:00held the common view that adultery and desertion were
- 17:03legitimate grounds for divorce and remarriage.
- 17:06That was the standard view, he learned.
- 17:07Yes, it was the air he breathed theologically, you could say.
- 17:11But that assumption started to break down for him precisely
- 17:15because it forced Matthew's Gospel to disagree with the
- 17:18plain, absolute sense of Mark and Luke.
- 17:21He found that inconsistency troubling.
- 17:23Deeply unsettling, It seems he found it puzzling that so many
- 17:28writers just assume Matthew was making explicit something that
- 17:31supposedly would have been implicitly understood by Jesus's
- 17:36original audience or by the readers of Mark and Luke.
- 17:38He questioned that assumption. He did.
- 17:40He asked. Would they really have assumed
- 17:43such exceptions when faced with such clear, unqualified
- 17:46rejection of remarriage in the other Gospels?
- 17:49It felt to him like an assumption made to smooth over a
- 17:51perceived difficulty, rather than a conclusion flowing
- 17:54naturally from the texts themselves.
- 17:57He reasons that if the Gospels are indeed God's inspired word,
- 18:00they should ideally present a harmonious message, especially
- 18:03on something as foundational as marriage.
- 18:05Right, you expect coherence. Yes, and this intellectual
- 18:09struggle led him to search for an interpretation that could
- 18:12bring all the gospel accounts into a unified, coherent
- 18:15understanding without playing one against the other.
- 18:17OK, so if the common interpretation creates this
- 18:19textual tension, what's the alternative?
- 18:22Understanding that Piper and others propose, how can we bring
- 18:25harmony to these accounts so they all speak with a consistent
- 18:28voice about Jesus's teaching? What's the key to unlocking
- 18:32this? The reinterpretation he landed
- 18:34on hinges on two really significant clues, both found
- 18:37uniquely within Matthew's Gospel.
- 18:40The 1st is linguistic, focusing on the specific Greek word
- 18:44Matthew uses in those exception clauses.
- 18:46OK, the word itself. Yes, the word is porneia.
- 18:49It's often translated as sexual immorality or sometimes
- 18:52fornication. Porneia.
- 18:53Porneia, and this word is distinct from moichea, which is
- 18:57the specific Greek word for adultery, the word that directly
- 19:01refers to marital unfaithfulness.
- 19:03US breaking the marriage vow. OK, porneia versus Moche.
- 19:06Why is that distinction so critical?
- 19:08I mean, if it's sexual sin within a marriage, wouldn't
- 19:11porneia just be adultery anyway? What does Matthew's choice of
- 19:13porneia tell us? That's the exact question that
- 19:16bothered Piper. If Matthew really meant that
- 19:19adultery was the ground for divorce and remarriage, why
- 19:23didn't he just use the common specific word for adultery,
- 19:26moishea? Good question.
- 19:28The answer, Piper argues, lies in Matthew's own careful usage
- 19:32elsewhere. For instance, in Matthew 15.19,
- 19:36Matthew lists various sins coming from the heart, and he
- 19:39lists pornea alongside more Share.
- 19:41Heals them separately. Separately, yes, suggesting he
- 19:44clearly saw them as distinct terms referring to different
- 19:47kinds of sexual offenses. Interesting.
- 19:49And there's strong scholarly work like that by Abel, Essex
- 19:52and Piper references reinforcing this distinction.
- 19:55They show that in pre Christian Jewish writings and in the New
- 19:58Testament, pornea consistently refers to a broader range of
- 20:02illicit sexual relations, like what things like fornication,
- 20:05sex between unmarried people, incest, prostitution, or really
- 20:09any sexual activity outside God's ordained boundaries.
- 20:12Moishea, on the other hand, seems reserved specifically for
- 20:15breaking a marriage promise for actual marital unfaithfulness.
- 20:19So Matthew's deliberate choice of pornea suggests he had
- 20:22something other than adultery within a consummated marriage in
- 20:25mind. That's the argument.
- 20:27It suggests he had a very specific non adulterous kind of
- 20:30sexual sin in mind for this unique exception clause.
- 20:33OK, that's a fascinating linguistic detail.
- 20:36It definitely shifts the perspective.
- 20:37So if porneia is distinct from adultery in an existing
- 20:41marriage, what's the second clue?
- 20:44What brings this alternative interpretation into sharper
- 20:46focus? The second clue connects
- 20:48directly to Matthew's unique story, the one only he tells
- 20:52about Joseph and Mary's betrothal.
- 20:53That's in Matthew 1.1820. Right Joseph finding out Mary is
- 20:57pregnant. Exactly, and here Joseph and
- 21:00Mary are actually referred to as husband and wife even though
- 21:03they are only betrothed. Guy is that it reflects the
- 21:06extremely significant and legally binding status of
- 21:09betrothal in that culture. It wasn't like modern
- 21:12engagement. It was essentially the first
- 21:14stage of marriage and it required a formal divorce to
- 21:17break it off. OK, a legal divorce just for
- 21:19betrothal? Yes, and Matthew tells us
- 21:21Joseph, finding Mary pregnant and assuming the worst, planned
- 21:25to divorce her quietly. Why?
- 21:28Because he assumed she was pregnant due to pornea,
- 21:31fornication, premarital sex, since he didn't yet believe the
- 21:34define explanation. Now here's the kicker.
- 21:37Matthew explicitly states Joseph was just or righteous in
- 21:41considering this divorce. And Matthew uses the exact same
- 21:45Greek word for divorce, apolysi, that appears in the exception
- 21:48clauses in Matthew 5 and 19. Wow.
- 21:50OK, so let me see if I'm getting this.
- 21:52The interpretation is that Matthew's exception clause,
- 21:54except for pornea, isn't about adultery and a consummated
- 21:57marriage at all, correct. Instead, it's a specific
- 22:00clarification designed for situations like Joseph and
- 22:03Mary's betrothal, where premarital sexual activity was
- 22:07discovered. Precisely.
- 22:09The argument is that since Matthew is the only Gospel
- 22:11writer to tell Jason's story and highlight the specific betrothal
- 22:14dilemma, he felt the need to clarify something the other
- 22:17gospel writers didn't need to. What needed clarifying?
- 22:19He needed to clarify that Jesus is very firm.
- 22:22Absolute prohibition against divorce and remarriage, as
- 22:26stated strongly in Mark and Luke and generally by Matthew too,
- 22:30did not apply to breaking a betrothal due to pornea
- 22:33discovered before the marriage was consummated.
- 22:35So the exception clause would basically mean whoever divorces
- 22:39his wife in a consummated marriage and marries another
- 22:42commits adultery. But obviously we're not talking
- 22:45about justly breaking a betrothal because of premarital
- 22:48fornication like Joseph considered that's.
- 22:51The sense of it, yes. Whoever divorces his wife, not
- 22:53including of course the case of cornea between betrothed couples
- 22:56and marries another, commits adultery.
- 22:59And this clarifies that Joseph's plan was righteous.
- 23:02Yes, it clarifies that his intended action was just, and it
- 23:05implies that if he had gone through with that divorce of
- 23:07their betrothal due to suspected pornea, neither he nor Mary
- 23:10would have been guilty of adultery if they later married
- 23:13someone else. Why?
- 23:14Because the marriage proper hadn't begun, it hadn't been
- 23:17consummated, and the issue was premarital.
- 23:20That radically redefines the scope of the exception.
- 23:23It's not a loophole for existing marriages, it's a very specific
- 23:27clarification about patrol. Exactly.
- 23:29It narrows it right down to that premarital context that only
- 23:32Matthew describes. That's a significant
- 23:33reinterpretation. It certainly brings a powerful
- 23:35coherence to the Gospels on this point, but I can imagine some
- 23:39listeners thinking maybe that feels a bit too neat, a bit too
- 23:44convenient for resolving the tension.
- 23:47Could someone argue that Matthew's use of pornea could
- 23:49still apply more broadly even if it includes the Joseph
- 23:52situation? Or are there other reasons why
- 23:55this Joseph, Mary context is seen as the definitive key?
- 23:59That's a fair challenge. And yes, some scholars do argue
- 24:02for a broader meaning of pornea, suggesting it could encompass
- 24:05any illicit sexual activity, maybe even severe sexual sin
- 24:09within marriage, making it still a ground for divorce.
- 24:12However, the real strength of the interpretation we're
- 24:14discussing, the patriotal view, lies in its remarkable ability
- 24:17to harmonize all the gospel accounts without forcing any of
- 24:20them into contradiction. That's a huge plus.
- 24:23Consistency across the Gospels. Yes, and it does this by relying
- 24:28specifically on Matthews own careful linguistic choices,
- 24:32Pornea, not Morchea, and his unique narrative focus, the
- 24:36Joseph story. It uses clues within Matthew to
- 24:40explain Matthew. Exactly.
- 24:42Think about it. You have the consistency of Mark
- 24:44and Luke presenting this absolute prohibition.
- 24:47Then you have Matthew, who includes that prohibition but
- 24:49adds this one specific clarifying phrase using a
- 24:52specific word, pornea, right after telling a unique story
- 24:56involving precisely that kind of premarital pornea and the
- 24:59justice of dissolving the betrothal over it.
- 25:01The pieces seem to fit together quite well.
- 25:03They do. If Matthew had intended A
- 25:05broader meaning, like allowing divorce for adultery and
- 25:08existing marriages, why would he deviate from Mark and Luke so
- 25:11subtly? Why use Parnia?
- 25:13Why not explicitly address the apparent contradiction?
- 25:16The most internally consistent reading suggests he was
- 25:19addressing the specific edge case that only he recorded.
- 25:22Fascinating. OK, so beyond just solving A
- 25:24textual puzzle, which is significant in itself, what are
- 25:26the practical advantages of understanding it this way?
- 25:29How does this reading maybe strengthen our grasp of God's
- 25:31plan for marriage? Well, this interpretation offers
- 25:34several really compelling benefits. 1st, as we said, it
- 25:38allows Matthew's Gospel to align perfectly with the plain sense
- 25:41of Mark and Luke. No contradiction.
- 25:43That's a major gain for understanding the unified voice
- 25:46of Scripture. Huge for biblical authority.
- 25:49Yes. Second, it gives a solid,
- 25:51convincing explanation for why Matthew chose pornea instead of
- 25:55Morgea. It wasn't random, it was a
- 25:58precise choice fitting the context you provided.
- 26:01Makes sense of the language. 3rd It fits seamlessly with how
- 26:04Matthew himself uses these terms distinctly elsewhere in his
- 26:07Gospel, showing his consistency. Internal consistency.
- 26:10And 4th, it fits exceptionally well with Matthew's specific
- 26:13story of Joseph's dilemma, the story only he tells, providing
- 26:17the necessary background for this particular clarification.
- 26:20The apparent sort of irrelevance of cornea fornication to an
- 26:24already established consummated marriage becomes the whole
- 26:27point. Because it doesn't apply to
- 26:28established marriages. Exactly.
- 26:31It means this exception only applies to that specific
- 26:34premarital circumstance. It turns what looked like a
- 26:37contradiction into a coherent, unified teaching from Jesus
- 26:41across all the synoptic gospels. OK.
- 26:44If this interpretation holds water, it carries really weighty
- 26:47implications for how we grasp marriage today.
- 26:50It certainly does it. Forces us to confront a pretty
- 26:53challenging truth. Yeah, Jesus's standard for
- 26:56marriage is far more absolute than many modern views allow,
- 26:59asserting A permanence that even civil divorce doesn't undo in
- 27:02God's eyes. So what does this higher
- 27:04standard really mean for understanding marriage in God's
- 27:07plan, especially when you contrast it with how our culture
- 27:09often views marriage and divorce?
- 27:11Well, it signifies that marriage, once it's entered into
- 27:14and consummated, establishes an essentially unbreakable bond in
- 27:18God's eyes. Jesus's opposition to remarriage
- 27:20isn't primarily based on the circumstances of the divorce or
- 27:23who was at fault. It's based on the bond itself.
- 27:26It's founded upon the stability and the God ordained nature of
- 27:29the marriage covenant itself. This means that even someone who
- 27:32is technically the innocent party in a civil divorce is
- 27:36still, viewed from this perspective, as bound by their
- 27:39original marriage covenant in God's sight.
- 27:41And remarriage for them would still be considered adultery.
- 27:44According to this interpretation of Jesus's words in Mark and
- 27:47Luke and even Matthew, when understood this way, yes, this
- 27:50standard elevates the marriage to a level of permanence that
- 27:54profoundly challenges our contemporary societal views.
- 27:58It asserts that the union is fundamentally God's doing what
- 28:01God has joined together a divine act, not merely a human
- 28:05agreement that can be undone just by human will or a legal
- 28:08decree. It calls us to see marriage not
- 28:11just as a contract but as a covenant.
- 28:14A sacred oath, A. Sacred oath made before God,
- 28:16intended to last until death parts the couple.
- 28:19OK, this inevitably leads to that very difficult pastoral
- 28:23question again. Yeah.
- 28:24Touching on real lives in our churches and communities, Yes.
- 28:26What about individuals who are already in a second or third
- 28:29marriage following a divorce, if that first mayor's bond is still
- 28:33considered valid in God's eyes? Under this view, does this high
- 28:36standard mean those current unions should be dissolved?
- 28:40That seems like it would create immense upheaval and a crisis of
- 28:44conscience for so many. How do grace and truth work
- 28:47here? This is an extremely vital
- 28:49question, and it's where pastoral wisdom guided by
- 28:52Scripture is absolutely crucial. As we touched on earlier, the
- 28:56sources, including Piper, point back again to that passage in
- 28:59Deuteronomy 24 point. 4 The Abomination passage.
- 29:03Right. The one forbidding a wife from
- 29:04returning to her first husband after a second marriage, calling
- 29:07it an abomination. The implication drawn is that
- 29:10even subsequent marriages, though perhaps entered into
- 29:13disobediently according to God's highest standard, should not be
- 29:16broken by yet another divorce once they are established.
- 29:18So don't unravel the current situation.
- 29:21Correct. Instead, the path forward
- 29:23involves acknowledging the reality that the current union
- 29:26perhaps began outside of God's perfect initial will, but the
- 29:29call now is to seek God's mercy and forgiveness within that
- 29:32existing marriage. It's about not compounding 1
- 29:35error with another. Exactly.
- 29:36It's seen as better in God's eyes not to create more broken
- 29:39covenants by dissolving an existing, albeit imperfectly
- 29:43formed union. So what does seeking God's mercy
- 29:46within that setting practically look like for someone in that
- 29:49situation, especially within a Reformed framework that values
- 29:54both God's law and His grace? It means the instruction isn't
- 29:57to divorce again to try and somehow fix the past.
- 30:00That would likely just introduce new broken promises and more
- 30:04pain. Instead, it involves first,
- 30:07repentance for any past actions that were contrary to God's
- 30:10standard, acknowledging that before God, and then, crucially,
- 30:14A dedication to live faithfully within the current marriage.
- 30:17Faithfulness now loving their current spouse.
- 30:19Caring for any children, Seeking to honor God in their present
- 30:22circumstances. Striving for holiness in their
- 30:25daily lives together. So God's grace can work even in
- 30:28imperfect situations. Absolutely.
- 30:31The grace of God is vast. He can bless and sanctify a
- 30:34relationship, even if its origins were flawed.
- 30:38It's a recognition that while God's ideal is absolute, His
- 30:41mercy extends to people living in the messy realities of a
- 30:44fallen world. He calls them to faithfulness
- 30:46now, right where they are. It becomes a path of
- 30:49sanctification within that existing union.
- 30:51Precisely. And for church leaders, it means
- 30:53carefully upholding God's high standard for marriage as the
- 30:56ideal, while also extending genuine compassion and clear
- 31:00biblical guidance to those already in these complex
- 31:03situations, helping them understand how to honor God in
- 31:06their present reality. What a deep dive this has been
- 31:09into Jesus's teaching on marriage, divorce and
- 31:11remarriage. It really has.
- 31:13We've seen how Jesus set this truly high standard, moving way
- 31:16beyond the concessions Moses allowed because of human
- 31:19hardness, really to uphold the original nature of the one flesh
- 31:22bond from creation. It's a challenging vision, but a
- 31:25deeply coherent 1 when you see how he grounds it.
- 31:28And we've also seen how a really careful, precise look at the
- 31:31specific words Jesus used, pornea versus mohia, and paying
- 31:35attention to the unique context of Matthew's Gospel helps
- 31:39reconcile what initially look like contradictions among the
- 31:42accounts. All right.
- 31:43The teaching then, stands as this firm declaration of the
- 31:46well, the lasting nature of the marriage covenant in God's eyes,
- 31:50with that unique exception in Matthew likely referring to
- 31:53specific premarital circumstances, not a general
- 31:56allowance for divorce and established marriages.
- 31:59This understanding certainly gives us a lot to think about
- 32:01regarding God's design for marriage.
- 32:03It challenges cultural norms both back then and maybe even
- 32:06more so today. It really does.
- 32:08It forces us to reevaluate our deepest assumptions about what a
- 32:12marriage vow truly entails and its sacred reality before God.
- 32:16He calls us to reflect on the seriousness of those vows,
- 32:19doesn't it, And the kind of faithfulness God expects from us
- 32:22within this foundational relationship?
- 32:23Yes, the biblical text asks us to think seriously about how we
- 32:27honor the covenants we make, especially those made before
- 32:29God, recognizing His presence and His authority in them.
- 32:32So maybe the final thought for you listening is what does all
- 32:35this mean for you as you reflect on marriage and faithfulness?
- 32:39How might this high lasting standard Jesus presents reshape
- 32:44your perspective on what it truly means for God to join two
- 32:47people together? And how does that divine act
- 32:50inform your understanding of a relationship that's meant to
- 32:53reflect something of his own faithfulness and enduring
- 32:55nature? Lots to consider.
- 32:57Indeed, for Reformed thinking. Thank you for joining us on this
- 33:00deep dive. Until next time, keep thinking.