Latest / The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson / Honoring Milton Friedman, Detailing the Radical Records of El Sayed & Talarico, and Pardoning Alaska Diesel Repairmen
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson
- 0:03Speaker 1: with you as well. And if you're listening on radio
- 0:05Speaker 1: stations around the country, we are so glad to have
- 0:07Speaker 1: you with us. Senator, we've got a lot to chat
- 0:10Speaker 1: about on the show today, including we called out al-Saeed
- 0:13Speaker 1: and the reporting being done around his connections to the
- 0:16Speaker 1: Muslim Brotherhood. And guess what? The media had to do
- 0:19Speaker 1: their job.
- 0:20Speaker 2: Well, we've seen real movement on that front. But before
- 0:23Speaker 2: we dive into the meat of the show, I want
- 0:26Speaker 2: to take a moment to just pause and reflect and commemorate.
- 0:29Speaker 2: 50 years ago this week, on October 14th, 1976, Milton
- 0:36Speaker 2: Friedman was awarded the Nobel Prize in Economics. Milton Friedman,
- 0:42Speaker 2: I think, is the greatest economist of our lifetime. And
- 0:46Speaker 2: I got to tell you personally, a particularly meaningful connection
- 0:50Speaker 2: for me is the day that I won the primary
- 0:52Speaker 2: when I was running for Senate in 2012. That day
- 0:59Speaker 2: would have been Milton Friedman's 100th birthday. He had passed
- 1:02Speaker 2: away already. I never got to meet Milton Friedman, but
- 1:05Speaker 2: it would have been his 100th birthday. So when I
- 1:07Speaker 2: stood up, having just won the primary, and on my
- 1:10Speaker 2: way to getting elected to the Senate, I opened the
- 1:12Speaker 2: speech by congratulating Uncle Miltie. And I will say he
- 1:19Speaker 2: was the most powerful and persuasive advocate for free market
- 1:24Speaker 2: economics of our lifetime. He could engage, if you've never watched, actually,
- 1:32Speaker 2: you know what? I was going to say, if you've
- 1:35Speaker 2: never watched the exchange of him on Phil Donahue, you should.
- 1:40Speaker 2: You know the beauty of it is, Ben, you and
- 1:42Speaker 2: I have a podcast.
- 1:43Speaker 1: You've got a show, I don't know if you know this,
- 1:45Speaker 1: where you can actually show these things to people.
- 1:47Speaker 2: What a great use. We are right now going to
- 1:51Speaker 2: play for you. Milton Friedman on Phil Donahue defending capitalism.
- 1:57Speaker 2: Give a listen. Nobody did it better.
- 1:59Speaker 1: Yeah, you're absolutely right, Senator. And before we get to
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- 3:40Speaker 1: All right, so I want to play this clip you
- 3:41Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, Senator, and just to put it in perspective
- 3:44Speaker 1: for you that may not know who Phil Donahue was.
- 3:46Speaker 1: He was like the Oprah Winfrey before Oprah Winfrey. He
- 3:50Speaker 1: was the king of what they described as daytime talk TV.
- 3:54Speaker 1: He was extremely liberal, by the way, and he had
- 3:57Speaker 1: these kind of debates. Milton Friedman being on his show
- 3:59Speaker 1: is a perfect example of that. This is from back
- 4:02Speaker 1: in 1979. Take a listen. When you see the greed
- 4:06Speaker 1: and the concentration of power within.
- 4:08Speaker 2: Don't you ever... Did you ever.
- 4:10Speaker 3: Have a moment of doubt about capitalism and whether greed's
- 4:14Speaker 3: a good idea to run on?
- 4:16Speaker 4: Well, first of all, tell me, is there some society
- 4:19Speaker 4: you know that doesn't run on greed? You think Russia
- 4:22Speaker 4: doesn't run on greed? You think China doesn't run on greed?
- 4:26Speaker 1: What is greed?
- 4:27Speaker 4: Of course, none of us are greedy. It's only the
- 4:29Speaker 4: other fellow who's greedy. The world runs on individuals pursuing
- 4:36Speaker 4: their separate interests. The great achievements... of civilization have not
- 4:40Speaker 4: come from government bureaus. Einstein didn't construct his theory under
- 4:44Speaker 4: order from a bureaucrat. Henry Ford didn't revolutionize the automobile
- 4:51Speaker 4: industry that way. In the only cases in which the
- 4:55Speaker 4: masses have escaped from the kind of grinding poverty you're
- 4:58Speaker 4: talking about, the only cases in recorded history where they
- 5:01Speaker 4: have had capitalism and largely free trade, If you want
- 5:05Speaker 4: to know where the masses are worse off, it's exactly
- 5:10Speaker 4: in the kinds of societies that depart from that. So
- 5:13Speaker 4: that the record of history is absolutely crystal clear that
- 5:17Speaker 4: there is no alternative way so far discovered of improving
- 5:22Speaker 4: the lot of the ordinary people that can hold a
- 5:24Speaker 4: candle to the productive activities that are unleashed by a
- 5:29Speaker 4: free enterprise?
- 5:30Speaker 3: But it seems to reward not virtue as much as
- 5:33Speaker 3: ability to manipulate the system.
- 5:34Speaker 4: And what does reward virtue? You think the communist commissar
- 5:38Speaker 4: rewards virtue? You think a Hitler rewards virtue? You think,
- 5:43Speaker 4: excuse me, if you'll pardon me, do you think American
- 5:45Speaker 4: presidents reward virtue? Do they choose their appointees on the
- 5:51Speaker 4: basis of the virtue of the people appointed or on
- 5:53Speaker 4: the basis of their political clout? Is it really true
- 5:57Speaker 4: that political self-interest is nobler somehow than economic self-interest? You know,
- 6:03Speaker 4: I think you're taking a lot of things for granted.
- 6:05Speaker 4: Just tell me, where in the world do you find
- 6:07Speaker 4: these angels who are going to organize society for us? Well,
- 6:13Speaker 4: I don't even trust you to do that.
- 6:16Speaker 1: The way that he says at the end, I don't
- 6:18Speaker 1: even trust you to do that. And Phil, by the way,
- 6:20Speaker 1: he smiles and laughs. I got to say, I miss
- 6:24Speaker 1: this type of conversation because you notice it wasn't this
- 6:27Speaker 1: like back and forth intense debate. It was a question
- 6:31Speaker 1: and then another question. It was a question and another question.
- 6:35Speaker 2: It wasn't you're the devil. And understand, Phil Donahue's audience.
- 6:39Speaker 2: This is like the audience that would go see Stephen Colbert.
- 6:42Speaker 2: It was a very left-wing audience. And you hear throughout
- 6:45Speaker 2: that exchange, you see them, they're laughing. I mean, what
- 6:48Speaker 2: Milton Friedman was so good at doing was defending free
- 6:51Speaker 2: markets in an affable, in a charming, in a positive way.
- 6:58Speaker 2: And just saying, well, gosh, okay, you don't like greed.
- 7:02Speaker 2: Is there some system you know of where there's not greed?
- 7:05Speaker 2: You don't think Putin is greedy? You don't think she
- 7:07Speaker 2: is greedy? You don't think Maduro was greedy until we
- 7:10Speaker 2: put him in a prison cell? You know, asking those
- 7:13Speaker 2: questions and doing so, you know, Milton Friedman did so
- 7:18Speaker 2: with a smile. He was so powerful. He was so persuasive.
- 7:23Speaker 2: He did radio shows. He would have been, if he
- 7:25Speaker 2: had lived at the time of podcasting, Milton Friedman would
- 7:28Speaker 2: have been an incredible podcaster.
- 7:30Speaker 5: Yep.
- 7:31Speaker 2: Because because he brought joy and charm and truth and
- 7:35Speaker 2: blinding intellect and and he founded what's called the chicago
- 7:38Speaker 2: school which was a whole group of free market economists
- 7:42Speaker 2: at the university of chicago milton friedman is also the
- 7:45Speaker 2: father of school choice and and that for me i
- 7:48Speaker 2: i read capitalism and freedom as a teenager and it
- 7:50Speaker 2: inspired me and and and School choice, when he laid
- 7:56Speaker 2: it out, it was a theory. It was an idea
- 7:59Speaker 2: of let's bring competition to regulated monopolies for schools because
- 8:04Speaker 2: we see the regulated monopolies are producing some schools that
- 8:07Speaker 2: are terrible, that are not teaching kids, that have violence,
- 8:11Speaker 2: that are failing kids. How do you change that? You
- 8:13Speaker 2: bring competition in. You give scholarships to kids. You let
- 8:17Speaker 2: them choose. At the time, it was a theory. Fifty
- 8:21Speaker 2: years later, It has been implemented in a majority of
- 8:25Speaker 2: the states across the country. And last year, we passed
- 8:28Speaker 2: my legislation. the federal school choice tax credit that's going
- 8:31Speaker 2: to kick in next year, that is going to unleash
- 8:33Speaker 2: tens of billions and even hundreds of billions of dollars
- 8:37Speaker 2: of scholarships for kids. That's the manifestation of the power
- 8:41Speaker 2: of Milton Friedman's ideas, the power of freedom. And that's
- 8:45Speaker 2: why on the day I won the primary, I began
- 8:48Speaker 2: by dedicating our victory to Uncle Miltie. And this week,
- 8:51Speaker 2: the 50th anniversary of his Nobel Prize. Again, I dedicate
- 8:55Speaker 2: this podcast to Uncle Miltie, an extraordinary voice for freedom.
- 9:00Speaker 1: Senator, let's talk about Al-Said. We called it out on
- 9:04Speaker 1: this show how the media basically asked questions to give
- 9:08Speaker 1: him cover without facts, without follow-up. We did their job
- 9:11Speaker 1: for them, and it's now forced the media to do
- 9:13Speaker 1: exactly that.
- 9:15Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's exactly right. We've talked on this podcast
- 9:17Speaker 2: multiple times about how the two most dangerous candidates running
- 9:21Speaker 2: in the entire country are Abdul Al-Said in Michigan and
- 9:25Speaker 2: James Tallarico in Texas. And there are moments when this podcast,
- 9:30Speaker 2: when Verdict, is really consequential. Our last podcast, we did
- 9:34Speaker 2: a deep dive on Abdul Al-Said. And we started with
- 9:39Speaker 2: playing NBC, Kristen Welker's interview of Al-Said on Meet the Press.
- 9:45Speaker 2: And it was the worst example of journalistic malpractice I
- 9:49Speaker 2: think we've seen in years, if not decades. Where on
- 9:52Speaker 2: Meet the Press... Welker asked, said, there have been lots
- 9:56Speaker 2: of charges that you and your family are affiliated with
- 9:59Speaker 2: the Muslim Brotherhood. Are you or your family affiliated with
- 10:01Speaker 2: the Muslim Brotherhood? And Al-Said flat out lies and says, no, no,
- 10:06Speaker 2: I'm not. And Welker goes, oh, okay, great. And Tim Russert,
- 10:10Speaker 2: who used to host Meet the Press, was almost certainly
- 10:13Speaker 2: spinning in his grave because Russert was a journalist. And
- 10:17Speaker 2: when someone lied to him on Meet the Press, he
- 10:19Speaker 2: had the receipts and he would put up, for example,
- 10:22Speaker 2: the tweet from Al-Said's sister repeatedly saying, multiple tweets saying,
- 10:27Speaker 2: my family has long supported the Muslim Brotherhood, has long
- 10:29Speaker 2: been affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood. She did none of that.
- 10:33Speaker 2: They would put up Abdul Al-Said, his own, multiple op-eds
- 10:38Speaker 2: defending and advocating for the Muslim Brotherhood. She didn't do that.
- 10:41Speaker 2: She simply said, the analogy I use is it was
- 10:44Speaker 2: like asking Al Capone, are you a criminal? No, I'm
- 10:47Speaker 2: not a criminal. Okay, good. NBC News is set. And
- 10:50Speaker 2: so this podcast, we just filleted that. We laid out
- 10:55Speaker 2: on Wednesday's pod. If you didn't listen to Wednesday's pod,
- 10:57Speaker 2: you should go back and listen to it. It's one
- 10:59Speaker 2: of the more important pods we did, laying out chapter
- 11:02Speaker 2: and verse, the evidence. that Abdul Al-Sayed supports the Muslim Brotherhood,
- 11:08Speaker 2: that his family has long supported the Muslim Brotherhood, that
- 11:11Speaker 2: the biggest donor to his super PAC is his father-in-law,
- 11:15Speaker 2: who founded an organization that is an unindicted co-conspirator in
- 11:19Speaker 2: the Holy Land Foundation criminal case, a criminal case of
- 11:22Speaker 2: funneling $ 12 million to Hamas. All of this is the evidence,
- 11:27Speaker 2: all of this NBC failed to cover. Well, I'll tell you,
- 11:30Speaker 2: I think the heat, I think NBC actually felt embarrassed
- 11:34Speaker 2: because they got called out for complete lack of journalistic integrity.
- 11:38Speaker 2: And so I think they felt a need to try
- 11:40Speaker 2: to correct it, to try to demonstrate that they're not
- 11:44Speaker 2: purely hacks. And so a day or two later, an
- 11:48Speaker 2: NBC reporter, Tom Yamas, had the chance to interview El-Said.
- 11:53Speaker 2: In this case, you actually saw a journalist behave as
- 11:56Speaker 2: a journalist.
- 11:56Speaker 1: I would say we actually saw journalism like in national TV.
- 12:00Speaker 1: It was amazing to see this. It was refreshing.
- 12:02Speaker 2: And it did not go well for Abdul El-Said. Here,
- 12:06Speaker 2: give a listen.
- 12:06Speaker 1: The Islamist movement, the Muslim Brotherhood.
- 12:09Speaker 3: You don't have any ties?
- 12:10Speaker 6: No.
- 12:11Speaker 2: And your family doesn't? No.
- 12:12Speaker 5: But newly revealed past tweets from Al-Sayed's half-sister appearing to
- 12:17Speaker 5: call his answer into question.
- 12:18Speaker 2: These tweets have emerged now.
- 12:20Speaker 5: Had an amazing talk with my mom about her activism
- 12:22Speaker 5: in the Muslim Brotherhood during the early 70s while she
- 12:25Speaker 5: was in college.
- 12:26Speaker 1: Hashtag respect.
- 12:27Speaker 2: My family has long been an MB.
- 12:28Speaker 3: Let me finish.
- 12:29Speaker 5: Praying for all my family that supports the MB in Egypt.
- 12:31Speaker 1: Can you just explain it?
- 12:32Speaker 5: Yeah, Tom. It's funny to me. I was born in
- 12:35Speaker 5: 1984 down the street in Rochester Hills. I was raised
- 12:39Speaker 5: here in Michigan, went to the University of Michigan, rebuilt
- 12:41Speaker 5: the health department in the city, led the health department
- 12:43Speaker 5: in this county. Hey, you want to ask me about
- 12:45Speaker 5: what was happening in Egypt in 1970? Are you serious?
- 12:47Speaker 5: I get it, but you were asked a question and
- 12:49Speaker 5: you gave an answer.
- 12:51Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm telling you.
- 12:51Speaker 2: I have no ties.
- 12:53Speaker 1: We have no ties.
- 12:54Speaker 2: So your mother had no ties?
- 12:55Speaker 5: I have never had these conversations with my mother. I
- 12:57Speaker 5: wasn't raised by my mother. So you were unaware? But
- 13:00Speaker 5: I'm just telling you that like... You're using hearsay evidence
- 13:03Speaker 5: from a tweet? It's just not serious.
- 13:04Speaker 2: It's just not serious.
- 13:05Speaker 5: But you've also gone after the president for truthfulness.
- 13:07Speaker 1: You've also gone after the president for truthfulness.
- 13:09Speaker 5: So when people ask you a question, they all do
- 13:10Speaker 5: expect the truth. And do you think, are you insinuating
- 13:13Speaker 5: that somehow I was lying?
- 13:15Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 13:15Speaker 1: That's why I'm asking you.
- 13:16Speaker 5: And I'm telling you I was not.
- 13:17Speaker 1: I love it. I was telling you I was not.
- 13:20Speaker 1: And this is, my mom didn't raise me. That's the
- 13:22Speaker 1: new alibi is my mom didn't raise me. That's a
- 13:25Speaker 1: far stretch from what he said the other day, isn't it?
- 13:28Speaker 2: Are you insinuating that I was lying? No, I'm not
- 13:31Speaker 2: insinuating it. I'm stating flat out. You were lying. You
- 13:35Speaker 2: still are. And look, I'm glad Tom Yamas did the tweets.
- 13:39Speaker 2: That's the first step, and that was good. You could
- 13:42Speaker 2: follow up then, because there's more evidence than that. Okay. Well,
- 13:46Speaker 2: why did you write op-ed after op-ed after op-ed defending
- 13:50Speaker 2: the Muslim Brotherhood, advocating for the Muslim Brotherhood, agreeing with
- 13:53Speaker 2: the Muslim Brotherhood? Why did you sign a letter urging
- 13:56Speaker 2: the Muslim Brotherhood to purge the press and the police?
- 14:00Speaker 2: That's actually Abdul's record, his own record. That's not his sister.
- 14:03Speaker 2: That's not his mom. That's him. NBC still hasn't asked
- 14:06Speaker 2: him that. They haven't asked him the question, now, why
- 14:09Speaker 2: is it that your father-in-law is the single largest donor...
- 14:15Speaker 2: It's given over $ 400, 000 to the Super PAC supporting your
- 14:19Speaker 2: campaign right now. This is not in the 1970s. This
- 14:21Speaker 2: is today. Your campaign for Senate, your father-in-law. Founded was
- 14:29Speaker 2: one of the original founders of ISNA, the Islamic Society
- 14:32Speaker 2: of North America. ISNA is an unindicted co-conspirator in the
- 14:36Speaker 2: Holy Land Foundation criminal prosecution for being essentially an arm
- 14:42Speaker 2: of the Muslim Brotherhood, for being an unindicted co-conspirator and
- 14:45Speaker 2: funneling $ 12 million to Hamas to fund terrorism. NBC hasn't
- 14:50Speaker 2: asked him that question either. And here's another question they
- 14:54Speaker 2: could ask him. They can ask him, why did the
- 14:57Speaker 2: Muslim Brotherhood vocally and energetically celebrate your winning the primary?
- 15:05Speaker 2: And in particular, let me read. So here's a story
- 15:10Speaker 2: from the Midwesterner. Muslim Brotherhood official website celebrates Abdul El-Sayed's U.S.
- 15:15Speaker 2: Senate primary victory. Follows documented ties between El-Sayed and groups
- 15:19Speaker 2: identified by the federal government as fronts for or extensions
- 15:22Speaker 2: of the Muslim Brotherhood in the U.S., The Muslim Brotherhood's
- 15:25Speaker 2: official news site on Wednesday celebrated the former Wayne County
- 15:28Speaker 2: health official's victory over Congresswoman Haley Stevens, described as, quote,
- 15:33Speaker 2: one of the most prominent figures supporting the occupation within
- 15:38Speaker 2: the Democratic Party. Ikhwan's online ex-account calls the site, quote,
- 15:44Speaker 2: the Muslim Brotherhood official website. Quote, during his election campaign,
- 15:50Speaker 2: Al-Said focused on calling for the cessation of unconditional U.S.
- 15:53Speaker 2: military aid to the Zionist occupation, criticizing the continued U.S.
- 15:58Speaker 2: support of the war on Gaza, stop, and demanding that
- 16:03Speaker 2: taxpayer money be redirected to domestic issues. The article was titled, quote,
- 16:09Speaker 2: Abdul Rahman Al-Said conquers the Zionists and runs for the Senate.
- 16:16Speaker 2: That is the Muslim Brotherhood celebrating his victory. And there's
- 16:20Speaker 2: a reason they're celebrating his victory, because Abdul Al-Said, his sister,
- 16:27Speaker 2: his mother... His father-in-law, his entire family have a decades-long
- 16:33Speaker 2: history of supporting the terrorist organization, the Muslim Brotherhood. And
- 16:37Speaker 2: if he's in the Senate, he will have access to
- 16:40Speaker 2: classified information that will endanger the lives of U.S. servicemen
- 16:43Speaker 2: and women and U.S. intelligent assets serving undercover.
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- 18:17Speaker 1: let's go back to, we started by talking about there's
- 18:20Speaker 1: two of the most dangerous candidates in America, El Saeed
- 18:23Speaker 1: and then James Tallarico. James Tallarico is a guy that
- 18:28Speaker 1: is so extreme. It is one of those where you
- 18:33Speaker 1: go back to his record, and the record is just incredible.
- 18:37Speaker 1: One of the things in his record is his obsession
- 18:39Speaker 1: with transing children, and he was asked about it at
- 18:43Speaker 1: the CNN town hall, and it shows you who he
- 18:45Speaker 1: really is.
- 18:47Speaker 2: Well, Tallarico is extreme. As I said, he and Al
- 18:49Speaker 2: Saeed are the two most extreme candidates running today. Tallarico
- 18:54Speaker 2: is also tied in the Texas Senate race. It is
- 18:57Speaker 2: a dead heat. He and Ken Paxson are tied. The
- 19:00Speaker 2: news just broke that James Tallarico raised $ 64 million in
- 19:05Speaker 2: the third quarter, which is the largest third quarter of
- 19:08Speaker 2: any Senate candidate in history. So no Senate candidate in
- 19:12Speaker 2: the history of America has raised more money in the
- 19:14Speaker 2: third quarter before Election Day. That brings his total to
- 19:17Speaker 2: more than $ 134 million that he has raised. So all
- 19:21Speaker 2: across the country, leftists are flooding money into Tallarico's campaign
- 19:25Speaker 2: because they understand he's one of them. He is a Marxist.
- 19:28Speaker 2: He is an Islamist. He is a radical. And understand,
- 19:31Speaker 2: he is a young guy. He literally came of age
- 19:35Speaker 2: as a woke social justice warrior. So all of the
- 19:39Speaker 2: idiocies of woke, this guy believes. So he says things
- 19:42Speaker 2: like God is non-binary. He says things like there's six
- 19:45Speaker 2: different genders. He says things like our immigration policy should
- 19:49Speaker 2: be a welcome mat. on our southern border to welcome
- 19:51Speaker 2: illegal immigrants into America. And he believes this stuff, but
- 19:54Speaker 2: you're right.
- 19:55Speaker 1: Believes it through and through.
- 19:56Speaker 2: He is particularly obsessed with transgender issues and wanting to
- 20:01Speaker 2: do transgender surgeries kids. He has been one of the
- 20:06Speaker 2: most vocal and aggressive defenders of sterilizing and mutilating kids
- 20:13Speaker 2: in support of the transgender ideology. Listen to him talking
- 20:17Speaker 2: about this issue.
- 20:19Speaker 3: This discussion is a difficult one. It's one that requires
- 20:22Speaker 3: nuance and thoughtfulness. In the state legislature, the Republican majority
- 20:29Speaker 3: tried to pass an extreme ban that would go after
- 20:33Speaker 3: all kinds of different forms of health care, not just
- 20:36Speaker 3: gender reassignment surgeries.
- 20:38Speaker 1: Not just gender reassignment surgeries, which he wants you to
- 20:41Speaker 1: believe is mainstream, but he says it is extreme to
- 20:43Speaker 1: actually want to stop mutilation of children and sterilization of children.
- 20:49Speaker 1: You and I've said this a lot. We keep saying it.
- 20:51Speaker 1: When they tell you what they believe and who they are,
- 20:53Speaker 1: you need to believe them.
- 20:54Speaker 2: Yeah, this topic is not a difficult one. It's not
- 20:57Speaker 2: a complicated one. It's not a nuanced one. It is
- 20:59Speaker 2: a simple question for a little boy, for an eight-year-old boy.
- 21:03Speaker 2: Should you be able to cut his testicles off? I
- 21:06Speaker 2: find the answer to that very easy, very simple. No,
- 21:09Speaker 2: you do not have the right to cut the testicles
- 21:12Speaker 2: off of an eight-year-old boy. You do not have the
- 21:14Speaker 2: right to take an eight-year-old girl and to sterilize her,
- 21:18Speaker 2: to engage in surgery or use chemicals that make her
- 21:22Speaker 2: for the rest of her life unable to bear children.
- 21:26Speaker 2: An eight-year-old child lacks the emotional maturity to make those
- 21:29Speaker 2: kind of decisions for herself or himself. And any adult
- 21:33Speaker 2: doing that is child abuse. But in Tallarico's world, do
- 21:36Speaker 2: you know what the child abuse is? It is not
- 21:40Speaker 2: sterilizing your kids. And he has advocated, if you refuse to...
- 21:45Speaker 2: Put your child under the knife if your child believes
- 21:49Speaker 2: that he or she is transgender, that you are abusing
- 21:52Speaker 2: your kids. That is radical. And that's who this guy is.
- 21:56Speaker 2: I want you to listen to his views now on
- 21:59Speaker 2: amnesty and that he wants. I'm going to spoil the headline.
- 22:05Speaker 2: He wants to grant mass amnesty to tens of millions
- 22:09Speaker 2: of illegal immigrants. Give a listen.
- 22:10Speaker 3: And then lastly, I think we have to build a
- 22:12Speaker 3: pathway to citizenship. our neighbors who have been here for
- 22:15Speaker 3: years and decades. They should pay a fine.
- 22:18Speaker 2: They should pay back taxes.
- 22:19Speaker 3: They should learn English. And if they can do all
- 22:21Speaker 3: those things, I think they deserve a shot at joining
- 22:25Speaker 3: our communities as full citizens.
- 22:26Speaker 1: There it is. Let's just give them amnesty. I love how,
- 22:29Speaker 1: by the way, he's like, oh.
- 22:31Speaker 2: 20 to 30 million illegals, 20 to 30 million illegals.
- 22:33Speaker 2: He wants to make them all citizens. Understand there's one
- 22:36Speaker 2: reason for it. He believes the illegals will all vote Democrat.
- 22:39Speaker 2: You think things are bad now. You think the Democrats
- 22:41Speaker 2: are voting for Marxist and Islamist now. With 20 to
- 22:44Speaker 2: 30 illegals, Texas turns blue. The country is lost. And
- 22:48Speaker 2: he's being very explicit. That's what he's going to fight
- 22:50Speaker 2: to do. Now I want you to listen to what
- 22:53Speaker 2: he wants to do to oil and gas. You know, Texas,
- 22:56Speaker 2: oil and gas is a monster industry. Millions of jobs
- 22:59Speaker 2: in Texas depend on oil and gas. Well, you know what?
- 23:02Speaker 2: James Tallarico wants to destroy those jobs for millions of Texans.
- 23:06Speaker 5: Listen.
- 23:06Speaker 6: I think the thing that frustrates me is the false equivalency.
- 23:10Speaker 6: We say, well, no energy source is perfect. except renewables
- 23:16Speaker 6: maybe are more variable, but then fossil fuels are destroying
- 23:20Speaker 6: the planet. And so it's like, are those two things
- 23:24Speaker 6: on equal footing?
- 23:26Speaker 2: I guess my only.
- 23:27Speaker 6: Point is I want Texas to be number one in
- 23:29Speaker 6: renewables going forward in the 21st century. Right now it
- 23:33Speaker 6: feels a little bit like we're the number one supplier
- 23:37Speaker 6: of cassette tapes in 1988. It's time to transition, because
- 23:41Speaker 6: that's not going to last very long. I guess I
- 23:43Speaker 6: just don't know where the hostility comes from in trying
- 23:45Speaker 6: to figure out a safer, cleaner, greener path forward.
- 23:49Speaker 1: This is as radical as it gets.
- 23:51Speaker 2: And by the way, for those of y'all who are
- 23:53Speaker 2: not watching online, this is one that's worth watching on YouTube.
- 23:58Speaker 2: Because he's in a legislative hearing. He's in a legislative hearing.
- 24:01Speaker 2: He's wearing his mask. It's very cute. You can see
- 24:04Speaker 2: the other people in the hearing are not wearing their masks.
- 24:07Speaker 2: So this is late. This is after COVID. But, you know,
- 24:10Speaker 2: it's a virtue signal. And by the way, to this day,
- 24:12Speaker 2: you still see people walking through airports wearing masks. And
- 24:16Speaker 2: I'm grateful for that because it's like self-identifying. It's like
- 24:19Speaker 2: holding up a sign going, I'm mentally ill. I'm a
- 24:22Speaker 2: crazy person and I'm like, I'm glad. Thank you for
- 24:25Speaker 2: putting that display on. I know you're a crazy person.
- 24:27Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a wide berth and you
- 24:29Speaker 2: can be worried about all the things that frighten you. Well,
- 24:33Speaker 2: little James Tallarico, he's wearing his mask saying that oil
- 24:37Speaker 2: and gas is destroying the world and we have to
- 24:39Speaker 2: transition away from it with no care that millions of
- 24:44Speaker 2: jobs in the state of Texas would be obliterated. He's
- 24:47Speaker 2: happy to take away your job. Not only that, maybe
- 24:51Speaker 2: you say, okay, not everyone works in oil and gas
- 24:54Speaker 2: in Texas. You know, some people work in ag. Some
- 24:56Speaker 2: people work in, say, cattle. We're, you know, massive cattle producer. Well,
- 25:00Speaker 2: you know what? If you're a cattle producer, if you're
- 25:02Speaker 2: a rancher, he wants to destroy your livelihood too. Listen
- 25:05Speaker 2: to him talking about how much he hates meat.
- 25:10Speaker 3: But we have, I think, heard more and more issues
- 25:13Speaker 3: of animal welfare. I think not just because it's the
- 25:16Speaker 3: right thing to do and the moral thing to do,
- 25:18Speaker 3: But also it's, as all of you know, necessary to
- 25:20Speaker 3: fight climate change. It is now existential that we try
- 25:24Speaker 3: to reduce our meat consumption and that we try to
- 25:27Speaker 3: respect animals in all aspects of society. And so I
- 25:31Speaker 3: am proud to say that our campaign has officially become
- 25:35Speaker 3: a non-meat campaign. So we have, we are only buying
- 25:41Speaker 3: vegan products from our local vegan businesses. Some of you
- 25:45Speaker 3: may know Big Nona's. They were little Nona's and then
- 25:47Speaker 3: they opened up a brick and mortar, some of their
- 25:49Speaker 3: big donuts, but we just got our pizza from there today.
- 25:52Speaker 3: And so. The point is, I think all of us,
- 25:56Speaker 3: not just policymakers, but everyone has to take personal responsibility
- 26:00Speaker 3: in this effort.
- 26:01Speaker 1: Nothing says woke like a vegan campaign where you got
- 26:04Speaker 1: your vegan pizza in a state that has like massive
- 26:08Speaker 1: pride in our ranchers in Texas. But you know what?
- 26:11Speaker 1: You go all vegan, buddy. Knock yourself out.
- 26:13Speaker 2: Well, and again, the video. Tallarico is, of course, wearing
- 26:16Speaker 2: a mask while he said yes. And and by the way,
- 26:19Speaker 2: you go to his campaign rallies now and he's got
- 26:22Speaker 2: people showing up wearing masks in 2026. Oh, yes. These
- 26:25Speaker 2: people are nuts. These these people are little woke Marxist
- 26:29Speaker 2: and Islamist. And listen to what he just said there.
- 26:33Speaker 2: He says it is existential to reduce meat consumption. If
- 26:38Speaker 2: you are a farmer, if you are a rancher, he
- 26:40Speaker 2: wants to destroy your way of life. And by the way,
- 26:43Speaker 2: one of the challenges in the midterms is a lot
- 26:45Speaker 2: of farmers and ranchers are not happy right now, are
- 26:47Speaker 2: pissed off right now. And listen, there are the cost
- 26:50Speaker 2: of diesel is too high. The cost of fertilizer is
- 26:52Speaker 2: too high. There are reasons that farmers and ranchers are unhappy.
- 26:55Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, if James Tallarico of Texas gets
- 26:58Speaker 2: a senator. who wants to destroy oil and gas and
- 27:02Speaker 2: destroy cattle ranching. That is millions and millions of jobs.
- 27:05Speaker 2: And by the way, this show is listened to all
- 27:07Speaker 2: over the country. It turns out some of the rest
- 27:10Speaker 2: of us like meat. We like hamburgers. We like steaks.
- 27:13Speaker 2: There's a lot of cattle ranching across the country, although
- 27:16Speaker 2: I will tell you it's interesting. There are parts of
- 27:18Speaker 2: the country. So, for example, Mississippi, do you know what
- 27:21Speaker 2: they call the process of raising cattle?
- 27:24Speaker 1: You know what? I'm actually embarrassed because of my ties
- 27:28Speaker 1: to Ole Miss that I don't know this answer. I'm
- 27:30Speaker 1: hoping as soon as you said I'm like, oh, yeah,
- 27:31Speaker 1: that's it. So tell me.
- 27:33Speaker 2: So Cindy Hyde-Smith, senator from from Mississippi, who used to
- 27:36Speaker 2: be the ag commissioner in Mississippi, she she in our
- 27:39Speaker 2: Senate lunch, she described she says she spends a lot
- 27:42Speaker 2: of time defending cattle farming. Yes, okay. And the rest
- 27:47Speaker 2: of us look at her and we're like, cattle farming?
- 27:49Speaker 2: What the hell is cattle farming? Do you guys like
- 27:52Speaker 2: plant them in the ground and put fertilizer on them?
- 27:55Speaker 2: Like in Texas, we do cattle ranching. We don't farm
- 27:57Speaker 2: our cattle. We ranch our cattle and we farm... soybeans
- 28:01Speaker 2: and cotton and things you actually plant, but it's very weird.
- 28:04Speaker 1: She's going back to the pig farms. That's where she
- 28:06Speaker 1: gets it from, the pig farming.
- 28:07Speaker 2: I'm just saying the Southeast, they do cattle farming. The
- 28:10Speaker 2: rest of the country, they do cattle ranching. Either way,
- 28:13Speaker 2: I'm for the farmers. I'm for the ranchers. And this zealot.
- 28:18Speaker 2: wants to destroy your job. If you have a job
- 28:20Speaker 2: in oil and gas, he wants to destroy your job.
- 28:23Speaker 2: If you have a job in ag, he wants to
- 28:24Speaker 2: destroy your job. If you have a job in manufacturing,
- 28:27Speaker 2: he wants to destroy your job. And your kids, he
- 28:30Speaker 2: wants to make it against the law for you not
- 28:34Speaker 2: to mutilate your kids. He's a radical candidate. He's got
- 28:36Speaker 2: to be defeated.
- 28:37Speaker 1: So we've been talking a lot about the midterms, and look,
- 28:40Speaker 1: between work and errands and family, we're all busy. And
- 28:44Speaker 1: with the elections around the corner, it can be hard
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- 29:03Speaker 1: bank your vote today. Now, if you live in the
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- 29:10Speaker 1: is already underway starting this week. The radical left has
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- 29:32Speaker 1: All right, Senator, I got to tell you, there was
- 29:41Speaker 1: one exciting thing that happened, and I think we should
- 29:44Speaker 1: highlight it. You're going to Alaska to campaign.
- 29:47Speaker 2: By the way, Ben, I want to jump in. I'm
- 29:49Speaker 2: curious if every time you say, Hey, Siri, play a
- 29:53Speaker 2: verdict with Ted Cruz. If people listening to this end
- 29:56Speaker 2: up having their phone suddenly start doing it, if they're
- 29:59Speaker 2: playing it out loud, just how often you trigger Siri
- 30:02Speaker 2: and Alexa to actually do that during the podcast.
- 30:04Speaker 1: So true story. There was someone that was listening to it,
- 30:07Speaker 1: apparently like on speakerphone, one of the shows they sent it.
- 30:10Speaker 1: They said, dude, every time you say it, my Alexa
- 30:12Speaker 1: starts playing the episode that I'm already playing on my phone,
- 30:14Speaker 1: which is pretty funny. So I do think there's a
- 30:17Speaker 1: little bit of humor in that for sure there. Yeah,
- 30:20Speaker 1: it would probably just happen to several people, and now
- 30:22Speaker 1: they can genuinely laugh about it. I was hoping it
- 30:25Speaker 1: would happen in your house. I was hoping one day
- 30:27Speaker 1: it would hear me saying it.
- 30:29Speaker 2: There's no way on earth I would let an Alexa
- 30:31Speaker 2: in my house. Why would I want to tape record
- 30:34Speaker 2: every conversation I have with my family at every time?
- 30:37Speaker 2: No thank you.
- 30:38Speaker 1: By the way, have you seen when it says getting
- 30:41Speaker 1: close to Christmas and you walk by your wife's iPhone
- 30:44Speaker 1: and you're like, Porsche 911, Porsche 911, like hoping the
- 30:49Speaker 1: ads pop up. Like, have you seen those memes? It
- 30:51Speaker 1: makes me laugh. It's like, cause it's always.
- 30:53Speaker 2: Listening to you. Mostly because it would not work with Heidi.
- 30:56Speaker 2: I could say that all day long and I will
- 30:58Speaker 2: not be getting a Porsche 911.
- 30:59Speaker 1: You walk by and just go Rolex, Rolex. And you
- 31:02Speaker 1: see if it starts getting ads. See, there's things there that.
- 31:05Speaker 2: You can use. From Heidi, I might get a tie.
- 31:07Speaker 1: You could get a tie.
- 31:10Speaker 2: So, you know, it's all relative. So look, This election,
- 31:14Speaker 2: and I think this podcast has done a good job
- 31:16Speaker 2: of breaking it down, this is a divide between we
- 31:19Speaker 2: and they. Yes. If you are a communist transgender witch,
- 31:26Speaker 2: you ought to vote Democrat. Those are your people. That's
- 31:29Speaker 2: who they're fighting for.
- 31:30Speaker 1: Don't forget, hold on. You've got to add vegan in there, sir.
- 31:33Speaker 1: You've got to add in.
- 31:34Speaker 2: The communist vegan witch. No, you don't. 100% of communist
- 31:38Speaker 2: transgender witches are already vegan. That is describing simple reality.
- 31:44Speaker 2: By the way, I don't think we have a large
- 31:47Speaker 2: listenership of communist transgender witches on Verdict. Maybe we do.
- 31:50Speaker 2: Maybe there's a hidden... Hidden pool I don't know about.
- 31:53Speaker 1: All the Democratic operatives out there working for Tallarico and others,
- 31:56Speaker 1: they're listening. This is where you get to troll them
- 31:58Speaker 1: a little bit. They're drinking their soy lattes right now
- 32:01Speaker 1: talking about how you're the problem with America.
- 32:04Speaker 2: If you're a Bolshevik professor in the Ivy League, you
- 32:07Speaker 2: ought to vote Democrat too. But if you're a truck driver,
- 32:11Speaker 2: you need to show up and vote Republican. If you
- 32:13Speaker 2: are a steel worker, you need to show up and
- 32:15Speaker 2: vote Republican. If you are a farmer or a rancher,
- 32:17Speaker 2: you need to show up and vote Republican. If you're
- 32:19Speaker 2: a waiter or a waitress, you just got no tax
- 32:21Speaker 2: on tips, you need to show up and vote Republican.
- 32:24Speaker 2: If you are a cop or a firefighter, you need
- 32:27Speaker 2: to show up and vote Republican. If you're an oil
- 32:29Speaker 2: field worker, you don't just need to show up and
- 32:31Speaker 2: vote Republican. You need to bring everyone you know to
- 32:33Speaker 2: show up and vote Republican. If you're a mom or dad,
- 32:37Speaker 2: who doesn't want your kids mutilated and indoctrinated, you need
- 32:42Speaker 2: to show up and vote Republican. And if you care
- 32:47Speaker 2: about your family not being criminally assaulted by violent murderers
- 32:51Speaker 2: and rapists and child molesters released from jail, you need
- 32:55Speaker 2: to show up and vote Republican.
- 32:57Speaker 1: Or don't forget the amnesty for 20, 30 million illegal
- 33:00Speaker 1: immigrants they want to give to cancel out your vote.
- 33:04Speaker 2: That's exactly right. And this past week, we had a
- 33:07Speaker 2: powerful illustration of the divide, the divide with blue collar workers.
- 33:11Speaker 2: President Trump was up in Alaska this week, did a
- 33:13Speaker 2: huge rally there. I'm actually in Alaska Friday and Saturday
- 33:17Speaker 2: this week campaigning with Dan Sullivan. Dan Sullivan is running
- 33:20Speaker 2: for Senate. He is a dear friend of mine. Alaska
- 33:23Speaker 2: needs to re-elect Dan Sullivan. To show you just how
- 33:26Speaker 2: dishonest the Democrats are, they went and recruited another guy
- 33:30Speaker 2: named Dan Sullivan to put on the ballot so that
- 33:33Speaker 2: the voters— and by the way, the fake Dan Sullivan— His
- 33:37Speaker 2: press release announcing his campaign was written by the consultant
- 33:42Speaker 2: for the Democrat candidate. It is purely, let's deceive the voters.
- 33:46Speaker 2: Let's get one or two or three percent of the
- 33:47Speaker 2: voters that vote for the wrong Dan Sullivan. Think, oh,
- 33:50Speaker 2: that's the guy I like. I'll vote for him. And
- 33:52Speaker 2: they want to squeak in and steal a Senate seat
- 33:56Speaker 2: by deceiving and lying to their voters. That's what's going on.
- 34:00Speaker 2: I'm going to spend two days campaigning with Dan in Alaska.
- 34:04Speaker 2: President Trump was there this week, had a fantastic rally,
- 34:07Speaker 2: and he did something really important. I'm going to read
- 34:11Speaker 2: to you from Fox News. Trump signs pardons for Alaska
- 34:14Speaker 2: diesel mechanics on stage during rally touting major energy deals.
- 34:19Speaker 2: The president declared every federal permit granted. for the 800-mile
- 34:24Speaker 2: pipeline while pardoning Clean Air Act defendants. President Donald Trump
- 34:29Speaker 2: announced pardons for two Alaska diesel mechanics during a midterm
- 34:32Speaker 2: rally Tuesday night in Wasilla, bringing the men on stage
- 34:36Speaker 2: to sign clemency documents as he highlighted major energy investments
- 34:40Speaker 2: and infrastructure projects in the last frontier. Trump identified Zachary
- 34:46Speaker 2: Subak and Patrick Fleming, two co-owners of an Anchorage diesel
- 34:49Speaker 2: repair shop, who pleaded guilty to conspiracy to violate the
- 34:53Speaker 2: Clean Air Act in 2022. I'm giving each one of
- 34:57Speaker 2: the three an unconditional pardon, Trump told supporters, also referencing
- 35:01Speaker 2: earlier pardons for McKenzie Mack Spurlock, a Wasilla diesel shop owner.
- 35:06Speaker 2: So understand, these three diesel shop owners came in to
- 35:09Speaker 2: repair diesel trucks. And the Biden administration prosecuted them for
- 35:16Speaker 2: helping the truck drivers keep their trucks on the road
- 35:19Speaker 2: and forced them, brought a criminal case against them. President
- 35:23Speaker 2: Trump pardoned them. I want you to listen to President
- 35:26Speaker 2: Trump in Alaska this week.
- 35:30Speaker 1: And your governor did also, by the way.
- 35:32Speaker 4: But at their urging, I gave him a full, unconditional pardon.
- 35:45Speaker 2: Is that you?
- 35:45Speaker 4: Good.
- 35:48Speaker 1: Come on up here.
- 35:58Speaker 2: Come on up.
- 36:01Speaker 4: He's a young, nice-looking guy.
- 36:06Speaker 1: Wow. And two other Wasilla truckers.
- 36:12Speaker 4: We're also wrongly charged, and I am pleased to announce
- 36:15Speaker 4: that I am pardoning them, too, effective immediately.
- 36:19Speaker 1: Their name is Zachary Schubach and Patrick Fleming. Come on
- 36:27Speaker 1: up here, fellas. Come on up here. Bring me the pardons.
- 36:35Speaker 1: Thank you. Think of it.
- 36:46Speaker 5: They want to put him in jail for 10 years
- 36:48Speaker 5: because they fixed an engine.
- 36:51Speaker 1: How sick. Now, if you murder somebody, no problem.
- 36:54Speaker 4: Unless a Republican does the murdering, then it's, you know,
- 36:56Speaker 4: the electric chair, right?
- 36:58Speaker 1: Senator, you look at this and it's just one of
- 37:00Speaker 1: those moments where a president can make a huge difference
- 37:03Speaker 1: in someone's life. And he did it for these three individuals.
- 37:06Speaker 2: Yeah, look, if you care about jobs, you've got to
- 37:09Speaker 2: show up and vote and you need to vote Republican.
- 37:11Speaker 2: You need to vote Republican in this election. If you
- 37:13Speaker 2: care about blue collar jobs, truckers, construction workers, if you
- 37:17Speaker 2: care about. not having radicals and communists and Islamists taking
- 37:23Speaker 2: over the country. I can't believe I'm saying those words,
- 37:25Speaker 2: but that's the reality. You've got to come out and vote,
- 37:28Speaker 2: and you've got to keep Republicans in the House and Senate.
- 37:31Speaker 1: We'll see you back here on this radio station next week.
- 37:34Speaker 1: And don't forget, download Verdict with Ted Cruz every day
- 37:37Speaker 1: that we publish, wherever you get your podcasts. And the
- 37:40Speaker 1: Senate and I will see you back here again real soon.