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Did the CIA Kill Malcolm X Over His Ties to China? | Silk and Steel · UK Column Radio

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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Silk and Steel
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podcast. I'm your host Carl Zah.
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Today back on our show, we have Dana Burton AKA Showtime from
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Shanghai, China. Dana, there's this is there's a
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topic you have always wanted to talk about and you wanted to
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talk about Malcolm X and his relationship with China.
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So let's go. Let's do this.
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Yeah, thanks. Thanks again for having me on
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the show. This is a topic that's really
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dear to to my heart For your new viewers.
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My name is Dana Burton, AKA Showtime.
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I'm from Detroit, MI, a long term resident of the People's
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Republic of China. And I actually was inspired by
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Malcolm X to come to China. The things that I read Malcolm
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spoke about that I, I think it doesn't get enough attention
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even from some of the most disciplined Malcolmites.
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I was talking to a young South African here in, in Shanghai a
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couple days ago and they're really interested in how I came
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to, you know, the, the, the decision to move to China.
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And I talked about being inspired by Malcolm X and they
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asked me, they, they said, OK, well, if you were so deeply
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inspired to come to China because of Malcolm X, why aren't
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there more African Americans that love Malcolm X coming to
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China for the same reason? And I thought that was a really
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good question. They're like, are you special or
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something? Like, what is it?
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But I, I generally believe that I, I was an extreme Malcolmite.
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I hung on every word. I researched anything and
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everything I could about this man's life and it's been a, a
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lifelong passion. I continue to do it.
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I'm part of a, a group. We meet every week and we study
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Malcolm X and I've been part of this group on clubhouse for over
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three years. And I just been studying him
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incessantly, particularly since the, the, the mid 1990s.
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So if there's any, you know, figure in history that I've
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studied the most, it would be Malcolm.
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And he's been talking about Asia and China for a long time.
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And when I was on your show the first time, I just kind of gave
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a, a broad overview. I talked about the connections
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that China had to his life and his and his and his personal
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life. I talked a little bit about his
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affinity for Chinese food, how he talked about he he learned
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about Chinese history while in prison and how that influenced
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them. And I began to set the stage for
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the discussion that I really want to have that that leads
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into the research that that I've been diving into for the for the
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past five years. And it, it goes into a theory of
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why Malcolm X was assassinated. And I suggest, based on the
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information that I have, you can make an argument.
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Malcolm X was assassinated by the CIA because of his
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relationship to China. And this is something we need
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that is very relevant for today for, for the black community,
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the, the, the black American community, the global black
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community or anyone just moderately interested in, in, in
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Malcolm X. And I must, you know, this is a
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disclaimer. This is a theory.
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This is an ongoing theory. There are allegations, but I
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want to provide the motive and as much allegation, I mean much
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evidence as possible. And hopefully we can come to a,
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a, a concrete answer. And I and I, as I walk through
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the story and walk through the, the theory, I think it will
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inspire more scholars and intellectuals to actually pick
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up on what I'm suggesting. So that's the general crux of
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what I want to get at. Yeah, this is actually a very
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explosive theory and I am very interested to to hear what you
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have to say. Maybe you can just give my
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audience a quick rundown. Sure.
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So before I get into the meat and potatoes and outline of the
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theory, I, I just want to bring it back to a human level and a
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human connection because of the, I talked about in the, in the,
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in our first episode, tiny Malcolm X's affinity for Chinese
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food and later his like affinity for, for Chinese people and the
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people that, that he met. I believe this is, this is
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really important to, to, to humanise the relationship and
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see the, the progress throughout his life, the deep connections
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with China. Because if you're paying
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attention, if you read the autobiography of Malcolm X, he
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randomly mentions Chinese food multiple times.
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He talks about when he's in Harlem and you know, the Chinese
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food that he would eat there and the smells of it and the
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memories. And this all relates to, you
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know, how he started to get this, this connection with,
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with, with China. And again, when he went in
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prison, he studied Chinese history a lot.
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They had a profound effect upon him.
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And this, this will all make more clear the connections that
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he had, the connections with the people, the history that he that
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he aligned with that I think is missing.
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But I'm going to pull up this book because this is seventh
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child Malcolm X by Rod Rondelle P Collins, who is a nephew of,
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of, of Malcolm X. He was the son of Malcolm's
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bigger sister. I believe it was his, his
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father's first born from a previous marriage.
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I think he had three children before.
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He had about six children with his, you know, second wife, who
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was the mother of Malcolm X. And this woman, Ella Collins,
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was a big mentor to Malcolm. Like when Malcolm's parents
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died, well, first when his father died and then he later
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his mother was sent to assail insane asylum.
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He was pretty left alone. The kids were pretty much
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orphans. And his bigger sister had
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already moved to Boston and had established herself.
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And she was the first one who had a deep connection with
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Malcolm's father. Malcolm's father was a preacher.
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He was a Garvey preacher. He, he, he spread the message
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of, of black liberation and nationalism across the country.
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And as a child, he would take Ella Collins with him to these
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sermons and sit next to him when he would preach.
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And so she really inherited, you know, the spirit of Malcolm's
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father. And later, you know, he
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separated from his first relationship.
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It kind of abandoned that family went on with, with Malcolm's
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mother and had I forgot the total number right now, 6 or 6
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to 8 children with her, with Louise Little.
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I needed to get these facts right.
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But Malcolm was, was the 7th son.
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He was the 7th child. He was the third child of Louise
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Little and the fourth child of Louise Little and he had three
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previous children. So he was the 7th son of his
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father. And when his father passed, Ella
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Collins is his his older sister came back into his life and kind
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of filled that void as a father figure like the the the head of
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the siblings and got Malcolm and brought him to Boston.
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So he brought him to Boston, MA, where she had found a way to
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establish herself half of her family from the South.
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They already had got into buying property.
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So she was good that side of the family had bought property and
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knew how to bought and resale property just like her Malcolm's
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father did. He he was always building his
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own home on this land and they had that skill set.
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So she had a little bit of assets.
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She was she was, I think she was a secretary from Adam Clayton
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Powell as well. She was very active.
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But to make the Long story short, to bring this all back to
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China, what is the connection? It's when she brought him from
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Lansing, MI to, to, to try to woo him to come to Boston.
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Actually, she invited all of the family, many of the siblings to
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come live with her. And when he had this connection
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of coming to, to Boston, there was a China connection involved.
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And I, I just discovered this just by reading this book
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multiple times. But when she first brought
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Malcolm, they wanted to stack him up with a job, and the job
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that they set him up with was in Chinatown.
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It was in Boston's Chinatown. So this is a transition period
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in his life. I read a little bit from the
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book since Ma, that is. Ella Collins, Malcolm's biggest
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sister, didn't believe in wasting time.
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By Uncle Malcolm's second day in Boston, she was already getting
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down to business because she had a strong belief in the work
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ethic as even when you can imagine that meant he had to get
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a job. Therefore, her first task was to
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take Uncle Malcolm downtown to meet John Walker Senior, her
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uncle by marriage who owned Walker's Auto Parts Company.
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Auto Parts Company, a parking light business located in
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Boston's Chinatown. So Uncle Malcolm and his senior
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took him to immediately liking each other.
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So this is a big transition period.
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This is also where people say kind of Malcolm started to go a
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bit wayward. He came up to Boston, he moved
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in, he started dancing, hanging out in the streets.
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He started, you know, getting involved with drugs.
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He learned to, to get on the train and, and, and take the
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train to Harlem and get into the drug scene.
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And later, he would get arrested in Boston.
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But it's very interesting that he lived or he went to work in
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Chinatown. And so he did have proximity to
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the Chinese community. And he started to meet people
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and network with them and learn a little bit about their life
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and lifestyle. And what's also interesting to
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show you, you know, maybe why he had an affinity for Chinese
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food. And it keeps coming up.
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The second day that he was in Boston, the entire family got
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together to have like a a big welcoming dinner for Malcolm and
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to get the family together and, and to introduce him to the
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other side of his family that he lost connection with.
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And what's really amazing, you would think that all right, big
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family dinner. Well, he's probably going to
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have a soul food restaurant. There's going to be some collard
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greens and chicken. You know, they're all going to
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get together. No, they took him to a Chinese
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restaurant to celebrate this moment, and I'll read the
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passage, it says on the evening of Malcolm's second day in
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Boston, he, Ma and several other family members celebrated with
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the dinner at Gordon and Anita Cho's restaurant in Chinatown.
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So us, Malcolm's coming to live permanently with us was a
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special kind of homecoming, Ma said.
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We wanted to celebrate as a family.
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Joe's restaurant was the perfect place since Mary and the Walkers
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were good friends. Malcolm got his first taste of
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Chinese food and greeted several family members whom he hadn't
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met on his first trip to Boston. And what this may imply, I'm
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going to do some more research on it because they were saying
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that Malcolm was employed in a parking lot business and it's in
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Chinatown. And this restaurant was was next
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to the business and they were good friends.
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It may be they might have even used their parking lot to allow
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them, you know, to have their business.
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So there was this symbiotic relationship that that deserves
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to be to to be explored. So I just wanted to start the
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whole thing off. But a real human experience,
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like a people to people to people exchange to humanise it
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because the rest of the story is going to go downhill pretty
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quick and it gets really dark. But maybe if you have some
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reactions, any thoughts about about the the framing of of what
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I just put forward? I'm looking forward to hear
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more. All right, so let's let's get
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into it. Let's get get down into the main
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thesis of of you know, of my argument.
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The allegation is that Malcolm X was murdered by the Ciai didn't
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make that allegation. There's a long list of people
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who argued that he was killed by the CIA.
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If you go back and look at the the the research on the
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assassination of Malcolm X, 99% of the research is focused on
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the Nation of Islam, their role and their involvement in the
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assassination of Malcolm XA lesser extent is focusing on the
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FBI and bossy we find almost no information, no research, no end
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up study about the CIA involvement.
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You have some allegations, but no one is taking the research a
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bit further and looking into the details.
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And I find that extremely alarming because we have a long
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list of people that put forward the claim that Malcolm X was
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killed by the CIA. So the allegations are out there
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now. What would the motive be?
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So I've broken down the motive motive to two parts. 1 Malcolm
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was jeopardising a play, a strategy, an objective, a
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mission to destroy the black community, to destroy and
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destabilise the leadership of the black community domestically
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in the United States of America. There's an entire agenda and
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strategy to do that and Malcolm pose a threat to that agenda.
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That's a domestic issue that comes under the FBI.
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So what would the CIA have to do with this?
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What is their involvement as a, as a entity that focuses on, you
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know, international organisations and, and, and
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international state, state actors and things outside of the
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United States? I'm going to illustrate to you
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why, because the second reason he was eliminated is because
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Malcolm X threatened the United States, you know, national
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security interest. And he he actually threatened an
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ongoing operation and agenda for a click within the deep state,
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you know, by the various state entities, primarily the CIA.
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And what is the connection between the domestic and the
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international objective? That connection is China.
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China is the common thread that connected both of the threats.
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And what is another common thread?
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That thread is the drug trade and the international drug trade
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which aligned with A2 fold objective.
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That drug trade was being used to undermine the Chinese
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Communist Party. It played a major role in the
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United States strategic objective to keep the wars going
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on in South Asia and to be able to fund those wars.
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It all came from drug money and what we saw happening is that
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drug money that was coming from Southeast Asia, that was coming
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up from these puppet regimes and these puppet anti communist
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forces are also included international drug cartels and
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the triads. It was the triads and that were
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being backed by the United States via the KMT to go against
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the communists that were profiting from from the drug
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trade elements within the United States military industrial
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complex wanted to keep that going because that was helping
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funding their support of the KMT.
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And there was a backlash because later they found that they could
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smuggle these drugs in that they were using to support the anti
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communist forces. They could, you know, smuggle
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those drug drugs into the United States and use that to
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destabilise the black community. By who?
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The mafia, the same people that they needed to counter communism
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in America. And so we're starting to see the
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hidden hand because Malcolm threatened the drug trade in
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Harlem on 2 fronts. 1, he threatened the the spread of
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drugs because he was actually educating and training people
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and waking them up and getting them off drugs.
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That was a no no. But secondly, Malcolm had the
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audacity and the courage to educate people on the flow of
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drugs and where those drugs were coming from, which was coming
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from South Asia, which was coming to back those wars.
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And then when it gets to the international element, not only
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was he educating people in America to stop the Vietnam War
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even before it was public, even before we even knew what was
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going on. Malcolm was the most outspoken
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critic of the Vietnam War, but he was actually coming into
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contact and aligning himself with those people, the Communist
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Party of China, who who the United States was, was counter.
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So that's the big outline. That's the overall hotline.
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And I'm sure you have a lot you want to chime in on this
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framework. Well, yeah, I there is an
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excellent book by American journalist Alfred McCoy called
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The Politics of Heroin, which actually detailed the US U.S.
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military industrial complex involvement in the drug trade in
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Southeast Asia. You know, particularly in, in
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areas of Golden Triangle between Thailand, Myanmar and Laos, and
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how that finance various various operations off the book
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operations of CIA in Southeast Asia and how they use mafia both
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in United States and and elsewhere to to do distribution.
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You know, like they it the the whole it I I, it's a highly
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recommended reading for for everyone.
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You basically start by talking about how United States brought
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back mafia in Italy because it mafia almost got wiped out by
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Mussolini. But, but, but United States
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needed the mafia to counter the communist.
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So they brought mafia back in Italy and how the mobs were
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involved in transporting the drugs, you know, into the United
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States from various areas in the world and, and, and everything
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is all tied together. So, so I mean, this is, and we
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all know CIA is involved in introducing crack cocaine in
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into the black community that that part has been, you know,
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well documented and and and you know, the other part is of
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course to introduce opioids, you know, heroin and etcetera into
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to US as well. So, yeah, I mean, I it's, I
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think this is a very plausible, very plausible theory.
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So let's get into some of the some of the evidence.
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Let's look at some of this these documents that most of them come
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from the redacted CIA files on Malcolm XFBINCICIA files.
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So we just pull up whatever one we don't have to go in order.
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We'll just go through each one to to see what the the document
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could illuminate in terms of the store, the story.
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So this is the allegation and this is the allegation coming
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from the Chinese themselves. When Malcolm X was assassinated,
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the Chinese came out publicly and stated that he was
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assassinated by the United States government.
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They were the first ones to call a spade a spade.
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They were the first ones to come out and, and publicly.
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This was published in the New York Times, February 22nd, 1965.
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The headline reads. China reads say Malcolm X was
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slain by imperialists. They're talking about the United
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States directly. And I guess this this is coming
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out of Hong Kong, the Hong Kong press and the the Beijing Daily,
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the Beijing newspaper. And it declared that the
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American quote ruling circles and racist murdered Malcolm X,
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whom it depicted as a martyr in the Negro's fight against the US
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reactionary forces. G OK, it's spelled G Ming Chi
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Ming Chi Pao. G Ming Chi Pao, the official
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organ of the Chinese Communist Party, declared in the editorial
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the quote from the Communist Party publication.
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I think they're. Talking about, I think they're
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talking about Zen means about the People's Daily, which is.
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About racial. Media of of the Chinese state,
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yeah. Thank you.
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Zen means or about, I think because they're using the gay
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wild pinion. I don't know what they're
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talking about. OK, so the blood of Malcolm X
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will not have been shed in vain. American Negroes will
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undoubtedly realise from his murder that in dealing with the
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imperialist oppressors, violence must be met with violence as
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Malcolm X himself taught. The editorial represented
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Malcolm XS advocate of violence and said he had to become a
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thorn in the side of US rulers. Quote, their murder of Malcolm X
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indicates that they are prepared to use any despicable means to
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intimidate American Negroes and quell their struggle, the paper
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said. And I'd be very interested to to
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dig up the the actual newspaper to get the full context of the
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quote. They want to frame it as you
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know, Malcolm X is an advocate of violence.
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That's the first thing they did after he died.
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But they were very explicit. This is violence and self
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defence, he said. You meet violence with violence.
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He's not advocating violence as a first measure or, or this
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advocate of, of, of, you know, aggressive assault or attack or,
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or any of this nature. But violence is self defence,
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that you don't have to sit back and someone's murdering you and
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slaughtering you and not defend yourself.
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So he says you meet violence with violence.
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That's what he said precisely. But of course, the New York
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Times is definitely going to find a way to frame it and
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narrow it into this, this depiction of Malcolm, because he
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certainly was looking for any means necessary to help liberate
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and uplift his people. And he wasn't someone, you know,
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obsessed with, you know, revolutionary violence for the
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sake of violence itself. So that's the first evidence
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that the OR first allegation coming from the Chinese
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themselves acknowledging that he was killed by by the state, by
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the US state and by the US imperialists.
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So here's the next set of accusations, very interesting
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because this will start to give you the evidence to the to
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substantiate my argument that Malcolm X was assassinated
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because of the people he was in association with who were
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directly involved with with the Chinese and and directly pose
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the threat to the United States of foreign interests.
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So this is declassified papers from the CIA.
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The date is February 25th as well, 1965.
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And I'm really not sure exactly what this document is.
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It's some kind of write up and I'll read it who you know, it's
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going to be clear who they're referring to.
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I'm just not clear exactly who typed this up, but it seems like
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some kind of a summary. But it says of Malcolm X
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assassination protests. And the first thing is they list
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this group and this will be pertinent.
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The AATUS accused American imperialists of the
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assassination of Malcolm X. So immediately after he's killed
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this group that is based of a Pan Africanist group based
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primarily in China, working in China, they come out and make
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the statement that Malcolm X was killed by the American
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imperialist. So a communique sign by the
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AATUF Secretary John Tetegra, Tetegra states, and we need to
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know who that man is. General John Tetegra states
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through their deliberate and dastardly acts, American
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imperialists have deprived Africa and the world of a
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sincere comrade whose name will go down in history and thus show
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the Africans determination to survive.
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And this is coming from Bamako Molly.
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Domestic time, 7:00 GMT, February 24th, 1965.
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A delegate of nine African nationalist parties, in a joint
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statement signed in Cairo, condemn the brutal assassination
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of the American Negro leader Malcolm X by the US
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imperialists. The nine parties signing the
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statement are the Basucha Land Congress Party, the Batucha Land
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Party, People's Party, the Swaziland Progressive Party, the
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Southwest African National Union, the People's
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Organisation, the Pan African Congress, the African National
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Congress, the Mozambique National Democratic Union and
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the Zimbabwe African People's Union.
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Beijing, February 26th, 1965 Quote This is what they said
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collectively being defeated everywhere in the world, the US
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imperialists are resorting to more desperate means of
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slaughter and murder, said fairly.
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Graham Dubois, wife of the well known late Negro scholar doctor
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WEB Dubois commenting on the assassination of African
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American leader Malcolm XA statement issued also by Julian
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Mayfield, African American novelist who lives and works in
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Ghana, pointed out to the quote Assassination of Malcolm X bears
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all the markings of essential intelligence agency execution.
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There can be no room for doubt as to why Malcolm X had to be
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killed. The moral of the murder is that
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we must never underestimate the ruthlessness and brutality of
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American capitalism. Beijing, February 24th, 1965.
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So you have all of these pan Africanist, black socialist,
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Marxist, Leninist, nationalist groups, most of them attending
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the conferences in Cairo, many of them deeply connected to
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China, which we're going to have to dig into in much more
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profound ways. Because a lot of these groups,
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they were actually taking training are in China.
29:38
They were getting revolutionary training, military training,
29:41
weapons training to defend themselves on the African
29:44
continent. And Malcolm was in connection
29:46
with these these organisations and groups.
29:48
He was in connection directly with Shirley Graham Dubois,
29:51
Julia Mayfield when he when he was in Ghana and he was in
29:54
directly in contact with the Chinese Embassy in Ghana at that
30:00
time, which where I talked about in our last podcast on this
30:04
topic, where he went to a banquet and he saw three films
30:09
at the embassy. There was a party and he met one
30:11
of the most important Chinese diplomats.
30:15
Ghana was, was meant to be the base for China's influence and
30:23
connections with, with revolutionary African movements.
30:27
You know, Cairo was a sort of like the back end of the base.
30:32
That was the place where they engaged with the, with the
30:35
African Union and other African groups.
30:38
Later, I believe they started to shift more towards Tanzania, but
30:43
this development is what threatened and shook the the
30:48
American powers to their core with the CIA was so furious
30:52
about Malcolm about and This is why they were tailing him and
30:56
following him in China. And This is why Malcolm is
30:58
always coming up in the FBI files.
31:01
And later, I believe when these new FBI and CIA files get
31:05
redacted, we'll see that he was being heavily covered because of
31:09
his connection with with China and the Chinese Communist Party
31:13
and, and these connections here. But, but here's the allegation.
31:16
Here's another piece of evidence that that needs to be explored
31:19
and looked into detail. What are your thoughts?
31:22
What are your reaction? What are your comments?
31:28
Yeah, I mean, Malcolm, especially near the end of his
31:33
life, he was making all sort of connections with the
31:37
revolutionary movement in the global S, but particularly in
31:41
Africa. And and you know, he was
31:44
inspired by the Chinese revolution, as he has said
31:49
himself many times. So I can see how they can.
31:52
This can freak out the ghouls in the CIA and and the American
31:57
National security establishment. They absolutely did not want to
32:04
have any connection between African Americans or the black
32:09
community and their liberation struggle and Africans.
32:14
And at that time, most critically, China.
32:18
China was the biggest threat. It was the threat on the
32:20
horizon. China was the state that they
32:24
failed to to to conquer. They, you know, they always
32:28
wanted to colonise and dominate China.
32:31
They failed at that operation. And to see China push, push back
32:36
is what WE, Dubois said is the reason why China was so hated
32:41
and why the Americans put the Chinese outside of humanity.
32:45
That was WEWEB Dubois's word that they are less than human
32:50
because we couldn't conquer them.
32:52
And now that they are trying to share their techniques of
32:57
guerrilla warfare, of our resistance to to export that
33:03
model and train that to Africans, we need to cut that
33:07
off immediately. And that's what they did in
33:08
Ghana. That's what they did to how they
33:10
got Kwama and Kuma out of there by dislodging that connection.
33:15
And that was the connection that Malcolm X was at the very Nexus
33:19
of and made it so that he had to be eliminated in addition to, as
33:25
I mentioned before, the very complex relationship with the
33:28
drug trade. So here's the next piece of
33:33
evidence. And I talked about this guy,
33:35
Victor Rizal in our last podcast and I think I misspoke.
33:40
I, I was looking back at the, the podcast and I saw your
33:42
reaction because I said Victor Ries will follow Malcolm X to
33:45
China. I think I've misspoken.
33:46
Senator Victor Ries will follow the Malcolm X, but that's a, a
33:50
Freudian slip because Victor Ries will follow Malcolm X to
33:54
Africa. He was telling Malcolm X while
33:57
he was in Africa, while he was meeting Chinese diplomats and
34:04
and Chinese, if you will, at today, what they might say it's
34:07
influence operations. And so Victor Rizal again is
34:12
very important because this helps, you know, go back to my
34:17
theory. Victor Rizal was a guy who was
34:24
infamous and I and I need to flesh out and get his his his
34:27
story correctly, but he was infamous for, he was a staunch
34:33
anti communist and he was infamous for infiltrating the
34:38
labour movements and being involved in the American labour
34:42
movements and the, the role of the mafia in the labour
34:46
movements. So he's a very murky figure who
34:50
is doing all this investigative journalism into the mob, into
34:54
the mafia. Obviously it's going to overlap
34:57
with communist movements in America, labour organising left
35:00
wing movements and the drug trade with the, with the mafia
35:05
guys. And so he's a guy on the ground.
35:07
And this is how they sneak in with the journalists.
35:09
It's the journalists that have this carte blotch access to
35:14
information under the guise of journalism, doing investigative
35:17
reporting, doing a public good. They can sneak into all of these
35:22
communities and, and, and do their, their, their research and
35:25
raise awareness in the public. And usually they end up being an
35:28
asset for the state, providing the information to the in the
35:32
intelligence community. And they also end up being an
35:35
actor. They actually engage in forms of
35:40
manipulation and coercion by spreading disinformation,
35:46
leading people the wrong way, hitting different groups against
35:50
each other. And I mentioned that, you know,
35:52
Riser, Riser got famous because whatever he was doing with, with
35:56
the mob and the labour unions, somebody came and threw some
35:59
acid on him. So they threw acid on him and he
36:03
became a hero in the public as this, this brave journalist that
36:06
survived an acid attack and he wouldn't shut up.
36:09
But here is Victor Rizo now following Malcolm X all the way
36:16
to Africa. What the hell are you doing
36:19
following a, a, a black man to Africa?
36:23
What it what, Like what, what business is this of yours?
36:27
And lo and behold, it's going to be fleshed out if you pay
36:29
attention to the narrative that he's trying to paint.
36:33
And then I'm going to show you is these connections between the
36:36
mob in Harlem that is getting the drugs allegedly from the
36:44
CIA, from the military industrial complex, from the
36:47
boats and the planes coming from the US military.
36:52
That's getting them from the Golden Triangle, that's using
36:55
the drugs to fund their war against the Chinese Communists
36:58
in Vietnam, in Cambodia, in Laos, in China, They're using
37:02
the drugs to fund from from the militias.
37:05
But they're, they're funnelling some of that money because they
37:07
just can't get enough the greed back to the United States.
37:11
They're pocketing the money and they're also funding the the the
37:14
mafia to do the same thing to battle the communists.
37:18
And so Victor Rizzo and he, he says in this later, you know, he
37:23
goes to Cairo and the first thing he says, Malcolm X, whom
37:28
the Chinese Communist call chairman of the Afro American
37:33
Unity organisation. So at the beginning, he's
37:36
telling you his target is the, the Chinese Communist and even
37:41
says that the, the, the, you know, the, the heading of this,
37:45
this note, It's like he's supposed to be a labour
37:48
investigator. It just says inside labour is
37:50
the name of this report. And the subtitle is Malcolm X
37:53
calling for violence meets with Communists in Cairo.
37:57
And this is just showing you just like how simplistic the
38:00
narrative is. And just in bullet points, he's
38:04
telling you Malcolm X calling for violence.
38:06
I just showed you how the New York Times, you got to put that
38:08
in there. Malcolm's violent.
38:10
And two, he's with the communist.
38:12
That's it. That's the agenda.
38:14
It's the same agenda that they pushed today or that they don't
38:17
flesh out and tell you what they're talking about.
38:18
That's all they have to do is simplify.
38:20
Malcolm X violence communist eliminated.
38:23
That's the equation. Get him out of here.
38:25
He's got to go. So he, he, he goes to Cairo and
38:31
he spent a, a considerable amount of time in the presence
38:34
of international communist propagandists.
38:39
That's the Chinese, that's the that's who they're talking
38:42
about. And he said he prepared a series
38:44
of inflammatory anti US documents in the pretext of
38:48
presenting them to the recent meeting of the OAA, the OAU, and
38:53
it was reported across the world.
38:55
He attended the conference. This is nonsense.
38:57
And this is when he starts to begin.
38:59
To this credit, Malcolm said he followed him everywhere.
39:03
Malcolm didn't meet with anyone important.
39:06
No one, you know, took Malcolm seriously, you know, he says
39:11
Malcolm was not at any of the conference sessions.
39:13
I was informed that it was ridiculous and undignified to
39:17
think for a moment that anyone such as Malcolm X would be heard
39:21
by an African counterpart of the OA of the Organisation of
39:26
American States. So they are over there and he's
39:31
not the only one. We, you know, they're sending
39:33
agents to follow Malcolm to keep Malcolm from making real
39:37
connections in Africa and to stop him from building this this
39:42
new sort of post banned on conference global S alignment
39:48
that we're seeing come to fruition today of of African and
39:53
Latin American and and Asian nations and it and it goes down
39:57
like this is the last there's a second page, but we don't have
40:00
to go through it now. But he says that Malcolm XS
40:03
activity here was strictly A propaganda operation which he he
40:08
set up at the Hotel Samarimi which some news people news been
40:14
gathered. He made certain that his violent
40:18
anti US diatribe were put in the hands of the Chinese Communist
40:22
correspondent correspondent planted here by the new China
40:26
news agency. And so according to Viktor
40:29
Rizal, Malcolm's entire trip to Africa was APR start to align
40:36
with the Chinese. That's really what he's he's
40:38
alluding to. But this is the the third piece
40:42
of of evidence. What are your thoughts?
40:45
How are you? How are you responding to this
40:46
information, Carl? Well, I mean, a lot of the so
40:51
called Western journalists, they're fully embedded with the
40:54
US government, acting as government informers or in some
40:58
cases spies. So this is not very, this is not
41:01
really surprising. That's that that pattern.
41:06
We're going to see the pattern again.
41:08
And so here's another. Now, this is the most damning
41:13
piece of evidence where I believe ACIA Asset leaked pretty
41:22
much the plot and the narrative that really exposes the United
41:27
States. It exposes the entire play and
41:30
we have the luxury of time going back in time and looking at the
41:34
consistency of how these attempts play out, how the CIA
41:40
leaks these stories to misdirect you to actually project what
41:45
they are doing onto their adversary.
41:48
They're literally telling you their playbook, what they're
41:51
engaged in, what they're doing, but they projected on their
41:53
adversary and to misdirect you and they think that they can get
41:58
away with it. But when we, you know,
42:00
critically analyse the, the narrative here, you're going to
42:03
see immediately, this is the exact same narrative that is
42:07
happening today. The storyline hasn't changed.
42:10
And there's not a single shred of credible evidence for what
42:14
he's saying here. So what's being said?
42:16
No. So this also came down.
42:20
It says sanitised approval. This is by the, the, the CIA,
42:26
you know, it's not redacted, you know, released by Freedom of
42:31
Information Act, February 25th, 1965.
42:36
And this is the first time that I believe that there may be
42:42
others that the the empire, if you will, try to clean up the
42:48
assassination of Malcolm. This is this is clean up mode.
42:51
He got assassinated. We want to cover our trail.
42:54
We need a leak of story to the public to throw them off off
42:59
track, to get them looking in the, the, the, the right
43:03
direction to misdirect them. And the title of the article is
43:09
probe red dope tie for Malcolm X murder Probe red dope tie for
43:17
Malcolm X murder. And the story that they're
43:20
trying to concoct is that the Chinese communists were dope
43:26
dealers and that the communists are selling the dope.
43:30
The communists are putting the dope in Harlem, in the Harlem
43:33
community, and Malcolm was working with them.
43:38
Malcolm was working with the Chinese Communist somehow in
43:41
this conspiracy and somehow, someway it got muddled and
43:45
befuddled and the communist wanted Malcolm dead and so they
43:51
assassinated him. It is the most bizarre thing in
43:56
the world. And this is this is published by
44:01
World Telegraph. What is this?
44:03
I don't know what this I have to look at on the world Telegraph
44:06
staff like this is like, this is legitimate at the time,
44:10
legitimate international news. This is like the the few tables
44:15
that that we get at the time for that that supplies all of the
44:19
news in the US, kind of like today we have like what is it?
44:22
Reuters, the one in France, APN News, we only have like 3.
44:34
Yeah, thank you, Reuters ASP AAP.
44:37
Yeah. So this is literally coming
44:41
from, you know, allegedly legitimate sources.
44:48
And I want to show you you may have some things to say in weigh
44:53
in on this. But this guy that wrote the
44:57
article, I'll try to figure out who the hell he he was.
45:03
Who is this guy? You know, where did he come
45:06
from? What is his credibility?
45:09
I cannot find anything on him. I can't find a single thing
45:14
about this guy except one very interesting lead that that leads
45:20
me to believe he's definitely Acia asset.
45:24
He's got all the classic characteristics because just
45:29
like, just like Victor Rizal, these guys, a lot of times these
45:36
military OPS, they have like specialisation in China, in the
45:42
mafia, but they can't talk about it.
45:44
They have all this information, they can't come public with it.
45:47
So after their career, one of the things that they do, they
45:51
get into fiction and they, they write novels and stories and
45:56
they have these best selling novels and stories.
45:59
And you wonder like, OK, where do these guys come up with this
46:02
stuff? They have these incredible
46:03
imaginations. No, actually, these guys are
46:06
telling you the inside information that they got.
46:09
They put it in fiction form. And that's how they're able to,
46:11
to, to earn money from the grit from their career.
46:15
They're they're providing facts, but they have to put it in a
46:18
narrative form. Well, guess what?
46:21
Guess who Paul Mescal is? Guess what he did the only other
46:28
published piece of work that I can find about this guy.
46:31
I'm doing a terrible job, but he wrote a book called What is this
46:38
thing that he wrote? Hitler's heirs.
46:44
Let's see if I can get up there more clear for you.
46:46
OK, I can see it. Hitler's heirs, Where are they
46:51
now? By Paul Mescal And this thing
46:56
came out from Pyramid Books. It's almost like a comic book.
47:00
It's for $0.50. You could pick this up at any
47:03
comic book store. Let me see when the date when it
47:06
was published. But but this is something that's
47:10
being circulated popularly. Kids can pick it up $0.50 a
47:14
nickel. And the whole story of what he
47:19
goes into is he argues that after the fall of, of, of Hitler
47:27
and the, the, the Nationalist Socialist Party, that all of
47:31
those members who were quote, unquote, Nazis were spread out
47:37
all over the world. And that they're still in
47:40
society today and that they're still operating, are engaging in
47:44
fascism and all these different places, including New York,
47:48
including Egypt, Europe, so on and so forth.
47:51
And then he just takes you on this whole journey of how this
47:56
narrative of how the West is still fighting fascism and
48:01
fascism is still alive. And, and, and it's in Africa,
48:04
the new African corps, they're everywhere.
48:07
But he has this like spy novel and this can it's a whole story
48:11
into itself. But it is so outrageous and
48:16
fantastic this this narrative. Yet this is the man that's
48:22
writing the the the story for why Malcolm X was exhausted.
48:26
I think you want to jump in. I can see you're expressing you
48:28
want to sign in, No? No, no, I mean, this is this is
48:33
fine, but I I just like to say every accusation is a
48:37
confession. You know, like a lot of lot of
48:40
the Western talking points on China is usually 100%
48:44
projection. And Speaking of Nazis, yeah,
48:49
Nazis, of course it still exists.
48:51
They, they, they, they got put into NATO, a lot of Nazi
48:55
generals became Nazi, became NATO commanders.
48:59
And US literally have this operation, operation paper clip
49:04
to ship all these Nazi scientists to United States.
49:07
That's how the US space programme got started.
49:11
So I mean, yeah, yeah, of course.
49:15
Nazis. They're they're, they're still
49:17
still with us. Yeah, it's just it's really
49:21
interesting to spin. I'm glad you brought that up
49:23
because I I think he I don't know if he mentions it, but he
49:26
is alluding to operation paper clip.
49:29
But the way he frames it, it's so different.
49:33
And then when you really think about it, yeah, he doesn't talk
49:37
about the way that these actors were absorbed by the state to
49:42
help the state, to benefit the state.
49:44
He's spending it to to leave the argument that continues today
49:51
that you hear like the Democratic Party and in in the
49:54
central circles is that, you know, fascism is a lie.
49:57
Fascism has penetrated our society.
50:00
We've got to do everything to fight fascism.
50:03
And they had to be searching for these, you know, boogeymen that
50:08
don't even exist while they're getting away, actually leading
50:13
the fascism. So it's this amazing bait and
50:16
switch where and it's just so interesting how they, the
50:20
fascists are sprinkled all over all the countries of the world.
50:24
So now the United States is justified and intervening in
50:27
their affairs and their system because they're, they're full of
50:32
the real fascists. And it's just this typical bait
50:35
and switch kind of narrative. But I wanted to go back so I can
50:38
read a little bit from that read.
50:42
Yeah. Probe document.
50:44
It is kind of small. I'm have to get up here and
50:47
squint a little bit. It's going to be kind of odd for
50:49
your viewers. But the story is so salacious.
50:52
What does he say? He says that first of all, you
50:58
know, James Farmer is another important figure in this former
51:04
A Farmer was a member of of core Congress of Racial Equality and
51:10
that was a nonviolent kind of civil rights organisation very
51:16
similar to the Urban League in some respects.
51:18
And core later kind of got Co opted, if I if I have my facts
51:24
straight by the Republican Party and became sort of like this
51:28
compatible left. And they put forward this kind
51:31
of conservative black nationalism and black
51:33
capitalism. And you know, Farmer got caught
51:39
up in in some of that. But Farmer was also convinced
51:43
that the gunman that executed Malcolm X were not black
51:50
Muslims. He believed that this was a
51:53
cover up by the by the CIA, by the intelligence community as
51:58
well. And he came out and spoke on
52:00
that and he's quoted in this. So they're kind of feeding into
52:03
it. So on on one end, you know, he
52:06
farmers saying that Malcolm pointed out he had been deeply
52:10
involved in fighting the the Harlem drug traffic and asked if
52:15
he was aware that left wing extremists have been peddling
52:18
dope to finance their revolutionary activities.
52:21
So this is a journalist putting the spin on the story.
52:24
They're trying to ask him as well, OK, you know, that was
52:27
trying to fight the drugs. Well, did you know that these
52:30
left wing extremists were were selling the drugs too?
52:33
And then they get him. They kind of use farmer to
52:37
cooperate this narrative. Farmer says, quote, I've heard
52:40
such reports. I think all angles should be
52:43
looked into. So this is, you know, no
52:47
evidence speculation leading the the witness to to plant the
52:52
narrative. And then it says from other
52:54
sources, the World Telegraph learned that Red China has been
52:59
shipping heroin, cocaine and other narcotics to Cuba for
53:05
transshipment to the United States and Latin America.
53:08
Smuggled into this country via Canada and Mexico, the dope has
53:12
become the major revenue source of at least one Harlem based
53:16
extremist group. This is at the same time when
53:23
CIA is shipping in cocaine from Central America to Florida
53:28
handed over to the mobs to distribute into black community.
53:32
And and actually in the book I mentioned earlier in Alfred
53:36
Mccoy's book Politics is heroin. He also talked about this
53:40
projection. You know, in the 1950s when when
53:43
Mao China was cracking down on the opium production and opium
53:48
trade inside China that create a huge just supply disruption.
53:53
That's when CIA in working with the KMT remnants in Myanmar
53:58
started their opium cultivation in in Tragola Triangle.
54:04
And to explain this sudden new supply, emergence of new supply
54:09
at the time the tar, the US drug tar claim, oh, this is because
54:14
Mao is flooding the world market with, with opium, which is
54:19
completely bogus and, and, and 100% projection because it was
54:24
United States and through their proxies that was making the
54:29
golden triangle, you know, the, the, the majors supply base of
54:34
opioids all throughout the world.
54:36
And there were, there were, again, they were bringing in
54:39
through their mob connection and they're trying to blame it on
54:43
the Red China when in fact Red China was cracking down on the
54:47
opium cultivation, opium trade inside China.
54:51
And and so so, yeah, so this is just another example that how
54:54
that carried over even to through the 60s as CIA itself
54:59
start cranking up the transport of cocaine from Central America
55:03
and South America into United States to specifically target
55:06
black communities. And This is why this is so
55:11
egregious and outright criminal, pathological, the mindset to
55:18
come up with this type type of narrative, to blame it on China
55:23
when at that time, if you look what happened next after Malcolm
55:26
X passed away and the sons of Malcolm X later, the Black
55:30
Panthers who aligned themselves with the Communist Party in
55:34
China, who actually had direct communication and learned from
55:37
Chinese communists. One of the first things the
55:39
Chinese communists did was educate the Panthers and these
55:45
organisations how to protect the community from drugs.
55:50
So you're telling me they're selling the drugs to get you
55:52
addicted to drugs, and yet the communists are educating you how
55:56
to clean yourself up from drugs. They were teaching them
55:59
traditional Chinese methods like acupuncture, how to get off
56:04
heroin. These are the skills that they
56:06
were learning that they were applying in the community.
56:08
And this is what Malcolm was doing before the Panthers.
56:11
And this is what made Malcolm so dangerous because one, not only
56:15
was he successfully, you know, especially with his work through
56:20
the Nation of Islam where he learned this method to go out to
56:23
the community to clean people up from drugs, but actually cleaned
56:26
him up and got him clean. But he's cleaning up the drug
56:32
users, something that right now, if you listen to the narratives
56:36
when they're doing the same thing, blaming China for
56:40
fentanyl, blaming the communists for the drug problem, but no
56:43
accountability for cleaning people up and getting them off
56:46
the drugs. They're also blaming Venezuela
56:51
now for fentanyl while they're bombing and killing people.
56:55
And when everyone knows this is completely bogus.
56:59
There's no fentanyl coming from Venezuela to United States.
57:02
This is an excuse to wage war on Venezuela.
57:06
I mean that this is this is a good thing is, you know, less
57:10
people believe this crap, you know, like, but but but they
57:14
keep on doing it. They keep on doing the same
57:17
blame game. Every accusation is a
57:21
confession. Confession without a doubt, if
57:25
we can go back to that, I want to read this document.
57:29
You know, we're going to have to, you know, I'm doing my
57:32
research on it. It's it's going to deserve a
57:34
deep dive, but I'll just go through one more.
57:37
I could just go through this whole document.
57:38
There's so much in India, but I'm not.
57:41
But but the point, the next line that they say again, they're
57:47
blaming Latin America, Canada, Mexico, they say leaders of this
57:51
group and they're talking about this Harlem based extremist
57:55
leftist group, leaders of this group and other far left
57:59
organisations supporting Cuba and China who conferred with
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Malcolm X on several occasions after he bolted the Black
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Muslims a year ago from his own Negro nationalist outfit.
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According to a reliable report under investigation by the FBI
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and the CIA. They claim we're going to trust
58:26
them. The Reds paid at least part of
58:31
the tab for Malcolm XS Tour of Africa and Europe and the Middle
58:36
East. The plan apparently, was to use
58:39
him as a tool to exploit race problems in the US.
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As if anyone living in the US needs anyone to exploit them for
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the race problems that they're engaged in.
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As if they need someone to tell them or wake them up or make
58:56
them any more angry. But somehow the Chinese are
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going to make things worse by getting Malcolm X to exploit the
59:05
race problems in the US. Anti something as propaganda
59:10
weapon weaponize against America but Malcolm's they're still.
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Doing that today, by the way, they're still blaming China for,
59:20
for weaponizing race issue in United States through quote
59:24
unquote TikTok. You know, they're still blaming
59:26
it. They're still saying it's a
59:28
China, Chinese and Russian disinformation campaign.
59:33
To. Whip up like, you know, all the
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BLM, you know, black life matters and all these protests
59:40
that was all due and and and and you know, and all the pro
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Palestinian voices that is all a rush Chinese and Russian plot.
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I mean, they're still saying this, including Hillary Clinton,
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Clinton Clinton just recently said that in our interview.
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It's, it's, it's China is doing disinformation campaign through
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TikTok as if these problems, you know, like people in United
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States otherwise would not even notice these problems.
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I mean the the playbook hasn't changed a single bit.
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And that's why critical analysis of of the past is so important.
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The study of history is so important.
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By studying history, you will find a blueprint.
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And this is exactly what Malcolm X talked about when he said
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history is most qualified to reward our research.
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And that quote is postured on posters all throughout the black
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community. And a lot of people, they
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mistake that quote as simply Malcolm reminding people to
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study black history or African history.
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That wasn't what he was saying. If you read the whole quote, he
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was saying world history, all of history, and specifically
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comparative analysis. That is study the history of
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other people and study your history.
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The quote, the actual full context of the quote, when
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Malcolm X says history is most qualified to reward your
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research, he was referencing the previous paragraph which he was
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talking about Chinese history. He just talked about Chinese
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history for 10 minutes and he's telling you, you have to study
1:01:16
this stuff to, to liberate your mind.
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And so one of the traps is, is, yeah, they put us in silos and
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they give us a watered down version of our own history.
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And we're obsessed think that we only have to study our own
1:01:29
narrow history. And then you, you missed the
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full context and you, you end up being at odds with your own
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allies and making them into an enemy.
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I'm going to yeah, I'm going to let's put this down because I,
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I, I will get a little bit frustrated and furious as I go
1:01:44
through this. This is going to deserve a lot
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of the time and attention to parse out all of the messaging
1:01:50
here. But you know, this is basically
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the crux and some of the key information.
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I actually have a lot more. I've been investigating this for
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quite some time and, and I'm working on pulling together the
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Chinese sources. So 2 keys to the puzzle that I'm
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missing out of the Chinese sources.
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And yeah, this video here before we go to the volume on it, just
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this is what Malcolm would say if he was alive today.
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This is what Malcolm how he truly felt about China and that
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it applies to our current situation.
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Well, I think it's one of the greatest things that has ever
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happened because up until now the nuclear devices have been in
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the hands of Europeans. They've exercised a monopoly
1:02:35
over the nuclear weapons or over the ability to produce nuclear
1:02:39
weapons. But now the Chinese have evened
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it, they've equalised it by being successful, by being a non
1:02:46
white or non European nation and at the same time developing
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successfully the ability to produce nuclear weapons.
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So as far as I'm concerned, it was a very good thing.
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And I do hope that they are able to build bigger ones and better
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ones every day. Because the only language that
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the European powers understand is the language of power.
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And a dark nation has to be in a position to talk or speak the
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language that these imperialists understand.
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And China has developed the ability to be in that position.
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And as long as she can speak the language that they understand,
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it's better for the other guy. They used to have a thing that
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one doesn't have a Chinaman change, but they don't say that
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anymore. They used that expression back
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when China was weak. But now since Mao ZE tongue has
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been successful in making China a strong country, the Chinese
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have more chance than anybody else.
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But this thing has become outdated.
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Well, just as it took a strong China to give a Chinese person
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respect, wherever that Chinese person is found on this earth,
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when we get a strong Africa, that the person of African
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origin or African ancestry will be respected any place on this
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earth, even in America. But he will not be respected in
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America until Africa is strong. Just as the Chinaman wasn't
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respected abroad until China became strong.
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Hair remix? Yeah, That's, that's that's
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Malcolm Max's own voice over the recent Chinese victory parade.
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Yeah. That's literally the fire that
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engulfs the flame of the Iron Mike that fuels the passion in
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my heart and the reason I came to the People's Republic of
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China for that message that he was delivering there.
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That really encapsulates Malcolm XS views on China.
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He was pro China 10 toes down 1000%.
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He knew exactly what he was saying, who he was speaking to.
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He understood who the Communist Party of China is, their role in
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society, in the world, and he promoted when China got the
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atomic bomb and nuclear weapons and was able to stand up to this
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imperialist, white supremacist power that's still in power
1:05:04
today. So he was, he was anti Taiwan.
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He realised that Taiwan is the same place as Israel, it's the
1:05:13
same state. He, he was pro, you know, 1
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China policy. He, he expressed that explicitly
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and his message has been watered down and his connection to China
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has been watered down because it's a threat.
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It's a, it's a threat. And they don't want people like
1:05:30
myself to have a proper understanding of China's
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political significance in the world.
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And God forbid you have an actual people to people
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relationship or connection with folks in China.
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And so I really think that's a hard way to end the conversation
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with the words of Malcolm X very powerful.
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I believe that he was alive today.
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This is exactly what he would have said seeing the the
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commemoration of the ending of the fascist of the war against
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fascism, the anniversary of the conclusion of the war against
1:06:05
fascism that that just took place a couple months ago in
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Beijing where the multi polar powers got together.
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The multi world, multi polar world powers got together in
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Beijing to make a a strong bold statement that there is power on
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this planet outside of of Western imperialism and white
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supremacy. Well said, well said.
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Thank you, Dana. Thank you.
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Thanks everyone for tuning in. Until next time, bye bye.