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Lunch with the Clydesdale - The Archaic Funding Streams of the CrossFit Games · Clydesdale Media Podcast

0:34
What is going on, everybody?
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Welcome.
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It is lunchtime.
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Time to get that break from the workday.
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Hang out with friends.
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Talk about all things in
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sports entertainment,
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specifically CrossFit.
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We are here.
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We're going to throw a dart.
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Oh, shit.
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Not good.
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Missed the dartboard altogether today.
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That's kind of how my Monday has gone.
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so um there we go um jake
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new new member new member
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new member they show jake
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what's going on man um lots
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of people in the chat you
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guys are here early today
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corey amanda yawn trent olive
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Vicky, Jay Birch, John, Jose, Jody, Jeff,
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Craig, what's going on, everybody?
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John George,
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when are the ladies coming on
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for Recap Debrief?
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I think, like,
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Carolyn flew back last night
1:42
and started the school year today.
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Like, she gave herself no break time.
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Like, took the silver medal yesterday,
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hopped on a plane,
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landed in Toronto last night,
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and then started teaching
1:57
this morning for the
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beginning of the school year.
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That is...
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That is crazy.
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Jamie's son started college today,
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so she drove back to Michigan.
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He was there at the competition with her.
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They get him back, get him settled,
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and off he goes to college today.
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So both of them,
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that's what master's life is, man.
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You compete, and then, bam,
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you're right back at life.
2:26
Life just smacks you in the face.
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There it is, and away you go.
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So, yeah, that is rough.
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How am I feeling?
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Well, I didn't do the eight workouts,
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so I feel okay.
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But it's a lot of stimulus, right?
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It's a lot of stimulation
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and a lot of people to talk
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to and a lot of people and
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a lot of things going on.
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A lot of just people.
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And I'm generally an
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extrovert and I get my energy from that.
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But, man, after a weekend like that,
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I am...
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pretty well like whooped so
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did the show last night
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didn't think I had the
3:10
energy to do more than
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thirty minutes ended up
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doing ninety that's just
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the way you guys get me
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fired up and yeah crazy and
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went back to work this
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morning and I had to get a
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couple of trainings done.
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Like by the end of this week, one was, uh,
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aggressive,
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what they call that aggressive
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threat training.
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That one went pretty quick.
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It was just a quick, twenty minutes,
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same video I've seen the last seven years,
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just had to get through it
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as a check the box.
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And then they just brought
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out this business etiquette training.
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Oh my gosh.
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Like it is,
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I'm only like a third of the way through.
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It is so damn remedial.
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I can't believe we actually
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have to train people how to
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not be a dick.
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That is exactly what this training is.
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It is taking the phrase,
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don't be a dick and turning it into a big,
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long training.
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And it is rough.
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I'm having a hard time getting through it,
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but I need to,
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I just need to get through it today.
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Imagine being Rich Froning.
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I cannot imagine being Rich
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Froning at a CrossFit event
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and being just mobbed the
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entire time I'm there.
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It's crazy.
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That would be just insane.
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I mean,
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I would be talking to Boz and he
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would get selfie requests
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nonstop while we were talking.
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I'd be talking to...
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carolyn should get selfie
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requests it's it's just
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crazy and I'm in rich
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froning that's like ten
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multiplier right um but I
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do have to say like my
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girls my girls that I hang
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out with every sunday night
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at the masters games they are rock stars
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The cheers for Jamie,
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every time she took the floor,
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felt like half the crowd,
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which was so cool to see.
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She deserves that so much.
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And then Carolyn Prevost,
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this athlete that's four
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times individual competitor,
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makes it to our first
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Masters CrossFit Games.
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Like, she was the hit of the media.
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She was the hit of all the fans.
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Like, everybody wanted selfies with her.
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Other competitors were
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telling me that she's their hero.
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It just was like this really cool...
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thing that they don't get
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normally um you know when
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when carolyn's mixed in
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with the other big elite
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athletes she's kind of like
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one of the forgotten ones
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and she'll even admit that
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to you and uh and the fact
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that that you come here and
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she's just a star it
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So cool.
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So cool.
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I was so pumped for them.
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It's awesome.
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I texted Jamie this morning
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and tried to tell her how
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much of a badass she is.
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And I'm sure she took that very well,
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Corey,
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because I know how she takes those
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from me.
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Dave showed up at the BCS
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Classic on Friday morning.
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We were all surprised.
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Yeah, he was here on Saturday, I think.
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And he came up and spoke to me.
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I don't know why I, I don't know.
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I guess I'm hard to forget.
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I'm not like your typical, uh, size shape,
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whatever, uh, in this space,
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but he always comes up and
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says hi whenever he sees me.
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Um, and I talked to him on Saturday.
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That was super cool.
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But man, that guy gets mobbed too.
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Uh,
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that's gotta be right at that rich
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froning level at some,
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at some kind of thing.
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Yeah, Jose, he was doing the same here,
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shaking everybody's hand.
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Did I do better than my Tyson video?
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Dave doesn't do that to me, man.
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Like, it's weird.
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Like, in the CrossFit space,
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I look at everybody as just, like,
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my friends that I've –
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because I've been in this space –
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Like I started CrossFit in
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two thousand eleven and I
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started volunteering in two
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thousand thirteen.
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So I've been around the
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athletes and I've been
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around Dave like several times now.
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So that stuff doesn't get me.
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like my NFL phantom does.
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Like when I talk about my Chicago bears,
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like I,
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that is a deep seated love since I
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was a young,
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young lad in Western Pennsylvania.
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And those guys get me more
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giddy than like anybody in
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the CrossFit space.
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The CrossFit space,
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I can sit down with anybody
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and have a chat, and it's really good.
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But, man, put me in, like,
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the other thing.
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I'm a wreck.
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We started the same year.
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Nice.
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Didn't know that.
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Yeah.
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Started... Yep.
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There are no clubs in CrossFit sport,
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so there won't ever be that
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same connection.
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I don't disagree with you, Jake, I think.
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Plus, I think at this point,
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like in CrossFit,
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even if it does explode at some point,
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like I'm embedded in it
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enough that I'm just a part
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of this culture.
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And maybe that's the difference too.
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Like CrossFit,
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you feel like you're a part
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of it because you do some
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form of it five days a week, right?
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So I just think that like
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because you feel a part of it,
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it's not like them at this level and you,
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even though it still is that.
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I don't know.
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It's just weird.
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Weird for me.
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But I get what you're saying,
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especially like, you know,
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the football clubs in Europe,
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like it's an insane connection.
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It's like that way in the NFL here.
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College football, same thing.
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How are you watching this
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weekend is very inspiring.
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Those people have careers,
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kids and real life issues
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and still are insanely fit.
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make a lot of sacrifice too
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and um that's I captured a
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lot of that in the video
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the interviews I did uh and
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I just talked to caitlyn
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right before I went on the
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air I think we're gonna try
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to get the first episode
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out by next tuesday so I
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was gonna do monday but
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that's a holiday here in
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the states so we'll do next
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tuesday and I'll it'll I'll
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release the first episode
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from this weekend uh then
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It was cool just to sit and chat with Boz.
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No pretense.
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Yeah, he's so approachable.
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He actually agreed to come on.
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I think I'm going to have
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him on the Sunday night
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show with us so Carolyn and
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Jamie can ask him questions
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and look for that in the
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next week or two.
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When I approached him, I had an agenda.
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I wanted to know...
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I wanted to know,
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did he really approve all
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these workouts that got put
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out this weekend?
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Because the story is that
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legends made them, they gave them to HQ,
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Boz reviewed them, and then they were,
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he gave feedback and then they went out.
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And I did ask him that straight up.
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And he said, yeah, they did,
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but there were some things
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that legends were adamant about,
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and they did not take the
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feedback from HQ.
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But they did have
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discussions about all of it.
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So...
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uh saxon agreed to come on I
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just have to get it
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scheduled now that the
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games are over both
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versions I train olive on
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the corey track trying to
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make masters when I turn
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fifty I watched bob have
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the audacity to say he
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thought the workouts were
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balanced on the wad prep podcast
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I said to boss straight up,
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there were no gymnastics.
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He said, there's two gymnastics workouts.
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And I said,
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one of them is after the cut and it has.
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And so you're not even there.
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Half the field doesn't even get to do it.
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And, uh, and then he looked at me like,
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yeah, you're, you're right.
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But I think he also was,
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he had to tow the company
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line a little bit as much
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as he wanted to say more.
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He was never,
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he was not going to say more.
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so maybe we get them on the
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show maybe we get a little
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more maybe we don't but hey
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we're gonna try and then
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yeah I'm gonna try to
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incorporate some more
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interviews into these lunch
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shows and if they can't do
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them at lunch I'll do them
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at other times during the day
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But with the way my work is,
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I can't do them during the workday.
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So I'm going to have to
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figure out evenings or
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something like that.
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So there we go.
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The big topic I wanted to talk about today,
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it's kind of a continuation.
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Well, first, I wanted to say that,
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so Corey, okay.
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Man, you keep changing the subject on me.
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Sled push on turf that
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looked suspiciously like carpet.
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So apparently,
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this was made by Surface Co.
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as a more consistent type
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surface to push sleds on.
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And it actually worked out great.
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for the first time ever in
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like a sled push race we
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did not hear any complaints
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about one lane was better
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than the other so I gave
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them because when I looked
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at it it looked like a
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carpet instead of turf but
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it ended up actually
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working very very well
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um john george no way as a
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community we need to flood
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dave's weekly review on the
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importance of hq taking
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back the programming or
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farm it out to someone like
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jr who knows what they are doing
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Uh, train all of,
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I did not see when they had to retape it.
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Um,
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but I did not see any complaints and I
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didn't see it not work.
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Right.
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So yeah, they may have had to,
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to reinforce it a little bit, but it,
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it never seemed to affect the race.
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so I know uh taylor was on
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uh savan last night talk
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giving his impressions uh
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as a coach and he talked
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about them not being
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allowed in with the
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athletes to warm up their athletes
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And that was the same last year.
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It was like that in Birmingham.
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The coaches had to stay on
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the fence line outside the barrier,
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whatever the hell it is.
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And only the athletes were
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allowed in the area.
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Now, this year,
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they were supposed to get more warm.
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Each floor had its own
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separate warm-up area.
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Now,
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what I didn't know until Taylor said
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it was a lot of the
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equipment never even got unboxed.
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and uh so they had to like
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get their own equipment out
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of boxes and that's crazy
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but I know a lot of it had
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to do with there being
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teens involved this year
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and with teenagers in the
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warm-up areas they didn't
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want just any willy-nilly
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person back in those areas and
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I get that.
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I totally get that.
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The team should be protected at all costs.
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Gosh, I just don't know.
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I don't know how you fix that.
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but I get what Taylor's
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saying from a coaching perspective.
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You want to warm up your athlete.
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You want to make the warmup
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area available to your athletes.
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And then, but then you have these.
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Fourteen, fifteen, sixteen year olds.
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In the,
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in there and they should be protected.
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So it's.
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Yeah.
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I get it.
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I get both sides of this coin.
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Aaron Frazier says protected
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from the coaches.
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Have you not seen all the
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documentaries on Netflix
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with the gymnastics coaches,
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with the wrestling coaches,
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with the doctors of the coaches?
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As much as I want to say
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these coaches are trustworthy,
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you can't afford one of them to not be.
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Then give the teens their
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own warm-up area.
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You could do that.
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There was a lot of space.
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They had a lot of extra
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space in the back to do that.
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They could have done that
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very easily and given the
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teens their very own warm-up area.
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Yeah.
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Do I know if they have DBs
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checks in the USA?
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I don't know what that means, Jake.
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I'm sorry.
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Okay.
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Yep, they do have background checks,
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if that's what you're saying,
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in most now bigger sporting stuff,
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but I don't think they have
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it for CrossFit.
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So...
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Yeah, so they have something like it,
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but I think it's more for
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organized sports,
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and I don't think CrossFit
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has hit that level where
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there's overall background
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checks on coaches.
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I think there is potential for it,
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but you'd have to have an
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organization that
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required... If you were to
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be a coach of an athlete,
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like CrossFit would have to say,
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if you're coming to the team games...
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or you're going to coach a teen athlete,
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you have to have this background check.
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CrossFit would have to
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implement that as an organization.
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That's the only way I could
20:14
see that ever happening.
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And maybe it should.
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Maybe that is something that
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should happen and be implemented.
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Like, I like that idea.
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Yeah, Chris, you're right.
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They should do that immediately.
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If you're going to be a
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coach of a teen athlete,
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you need to have a background check.
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There were no teens last year,
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same policy agreed.
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There was the same policy last year,
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but the warmup area was, was much,
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much smaller last year.
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And they, they did not.
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The first day was everybody
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could go in there and they
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had to limit it to just
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athletes because there
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wasn't enough equipment and
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not enough space for everybody.
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No, photographers were not allowed in.
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I think even when the teens were there,
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they didn't allow phones in there.
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But it was an open area.
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I mean,
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you could take photos from the
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other side of the barrier.
21:58
It doesn't make a lot of sense there,
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though.
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But
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From what I'm hearing is
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they're looking at coming
22:09
back to the same venue next year,
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building a relationship with the city,
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building up more promotion from the city.
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And if you have all that extra space,
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then you could have
22:21
separate areas for the team games,
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all of that kind of stuff.
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So, yeah, like all of this, I think,
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could be done.
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It just...
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I think everybody that runs
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these organizations are good people,
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but I think at the level
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that we're at now,
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they're not prepared to
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think about everything in place.
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And I don't think the
22:50
forethought was there to say,
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let's have a separate teen
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warm-up area from everybody else.
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um uh jake when I qualify
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next year I want my coach
23:11
to be able to be there with
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me there you go you need
23:14
someone to hold that hand
23:15
man all right so um
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The other things that Taylor
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talked about were that the community,
23:31
the athletes,
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the spectators were like super awesome.
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And I could not agree more.
23:37
It was a really cool area.
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to be you wanted to be there
23:44
everybody was so cool to
23:46
each other um everybody was
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just having cool
23:49
conversations um everybody
23:51
was polite um it really was
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a cool community atmosphere
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there and I echo everything
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he said the other thing he
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said the airbnb that him
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and bryson got uh he felt
24:06
unsafe when he came outside
24:08
I know exactly where they
24:09
got their airbnb
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If you go just east of where
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the venue is here in Columbus,
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just east is like the old
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rich Jewish neighborhood
24:23
from like the early days of CrossFit.
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They're not CrossFit, Columbus.
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But if you go just a tick too far,
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you go right into the hood.
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And they had to have gotten
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their Airbnb just there.
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Um, and it,
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it is a rough area of town for sure.
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But if you're down by the venue, it's,
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it's gorgeous.
24:52
Like there, it,
24:53
there's five hundred
24:54
restaurants outside the door.
24:56
There are tons of high end
24:57
hotels and it is no Trish,
25:01
not the old Jewish hood.
25:03
There's the old Jewish section.
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And then right after that is the hood.
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Um, so yeah,
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but everything downtown was really,
25:16
really nice.
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Yeah, Chris,
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they were definitely in the hood.
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Uh, so there,
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the other thing I want to
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talk about is this whole thing.
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Trish, Trish, Trish was mugged by a rabbi.
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Yeah, that's it.
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uh crystal hummer uh good
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event good venue great city
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but like last year need to
25:51
work on improving the
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logistics I don't disagree
25:54
on that um so last night we
26:02
talked about how it like
26:04
everything was expensive
26:06
the tickets to get in were
26:07
expensive there were great
26:09
crowds but what I find I
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was laying in bed last
26:14
night thinking about this
26:17
and crossfit is this thing
26:22
where you get to dangle a dream right
26:25
You as an everyday
26:26
CrossFitter can go to the
26:28
CrossFit games in all of
26:30
these age groups.
26:32
If you're good enough,
26:33
if you put in the work,
26:35
if you make the sacrifice,
26:37
you can get this dream of
26:39
going to the CrossFit games.
26:41
And so many people like Corey, like Jake,
26:46
like whoever else said they
26:48
wanted to go to the CrossFit games.
26:51
And then you get sucked in, right?
26:54
But then they make you pay
26:55
for it over and over and over again.
26:59
You want to go to the CrossFit Games?
27:01
It's only twenty dollars.
27:02
Sign up for the open.
27:03
Wait,
27:04
you made qualified for semifinals here.
27:07
Here's another charge for that.
27:11
Oh, you made it to the games.
27:13
Well, hey,
27:13
we need four hundred dollars and
27:15
you can come to the games.
27:18
Oh, then when you get here.
27:20
By the way,
27:21
if your family wants to see you,
27:23
they have to pay two
27:24
hundred eighty dollars to
27:25
watch you this weekend.
27:27
Oh, you have like ten family members.
27:29
Well,
27:29
that's like two thousand eight
27:31
hundred dollars just to come watch you.
27:35
So they dangle a dream.
27:37
And they say,
27:38
but you got to pay for that dream.
27:42
Because we can't be creative
27:43
enough to come up with alternative.
27:47
Alternative funding sources.
27:53
that there are revenue
27:55
streams out there that are
27:57
more creative than charging
27:59
the people with the dream.
28:06
And it's so shitty that we
28:08
sit there and go,
28:10
I want this dream.
28:12
We're going to give you this dream.
28:15
And the price for that is so immense.
28:19
Oh, but then the prize money, sorry,
28:22
we only have X number of
28:24
dollars to give to you.
28:31
It is all of these athletes
28:33
sacrifice so much and they
28:36
end up way in the negative.
28:38
Even if they win the damn thing,
28:40
they've lost so much money
28:42
to go after this dream.
28:44
And yes,
28:45
there are tons that are willing to
28:47
pay for it because it's the dream.
28:50
You've given them the dream.
28:54
So they're willing to pay for it.
28:59
But then you charge them on top of that.
29:03
The ticket prices are insane.
29:06
Jake talked earlier in the
29:07
show about these clubs, right?
29:10
What do you see at all the soccer matches?
29:12
You see people wearing the jerseys.
29:15
NFL games,
29:16
you see people wearing the jerseys.
29:19
College football,
29:19
people wearing the jerseys.
29:21
We can't get an apparel
29:23
company to make a jersey
29:24
for an athlete to save our life.
29:28
And when we did at the games,
29:30
people were shoving each
29:32
other to try to get them off the shelves.
29:38
That's a revenue stream that
29:39
we are letting die.
29:41
I talked to Becca Voigt as
29:43
she was checking in,
29:45
and she said she was going to the game.
29:47
This is her eighteenth
29:48
appearance at the games,
29:49
and she has so much stuff
29:51
from the games that
29:53
that she has to give some of it away,
29:55
but she never gives away
29:56
her jerseys because she said,
29:58
nobody wants to wear a
30:00
shirt with my name on it.
30:02
I said, Becca, you are so wrong.
30:04
So many people would wear a
30:06
shirt with your name on it.
30:08
Look at every NFL game.
30:10
Look at every NBA game.
30:12
The stands are full of
30:13
people wearing shirts with
30:15
other people's names on them.
30:22
That's a revenue stream.
30:24
And you just make a small
30:25
percentage of that go back
30:27
to the athlete.
30:28
But find someone who's able to do that.
30:32
And then we talked last night.
30:33
Get people in the door.
30:35
Don't charge two hundred and
30:36
eighty dollars.
30:37
Charge twenty bucks.
30:39
Get more people through the door.
30:41
And then your vendor village
30:42
becomes more active.
30:47
more active.
30:48
That means the vendors get happier.
30:50
And then when the vendors are happier,
30:53
then they will pay more to be there.
30:56
And then it just becomes
30:57
this nice circle of revenue
30:59
where you're not charging the dreamer.
31:02
You're charging the people
31:03
coming to make money while
31:05
they're going for their dream.
31:12
Jake's wearing David Beckham's underpants.
31:14
There you go.
31:16
That stuff is real.
31:18
That stuff is real.
31:27
Sabir and Kelly.
31:28
Wearing a CEO shirt.
31:29
Yes.
31:30
We support the people we like.
31:33
We wear shirts that show that support.
31:40
It's
31:43
I think the problem right
31:44
now is we can't keep a steady sponsor.
31:47
We can't establish a relationship.
31:51
It's one year and done one year and done.
31:54
We need to get,
31:55
but yet CrossFit has their own apparel.
31:58
And instead of focusing solely on now,
32:03
listen, I love that pukey is back.
32:06
I love that forging elite fitness is back.
32:08
I love that, um,
32:12
repetition is the enemy,
32:15
or routine is the enemy.
32:17
All that stuff back, super, super pumped,
32:19
right?
32:20
But they could make jerseys too.
32:24
They could make jerseys.
32:25
It's easy.
32:26
So easy.
32:30
So easy.
32:32
But really,
32:33
we need to get more vendors
32:35
into the place.
32:36
There was so much room to
32:37
have a massive vendor village.
32:41
And not only have we screwed
32:43
the pooch and have smaller
32:45
and smaller vendor villages,
32:47
we are going less and less
32:49
outside of the scope of
32:51
CrossFit with those vendors.
32:55
Do you remember when like KT
32:57
tape was a thing and like
32:59
rock tape was at every event?
33:01
That wasn't a CrossFit thing.
33:03
That was a sport thing.
33:05
Why can't we get Icy Hot?
33:07
You guys were joking last
33:08
night that Icy Hot and
33:10
Advil should be sponsors of
33:12
the Masters CrossFit Games.
33:13
Well, why not?
33:15
Why not?
33:17
They're putting out products all the time.
33:18
They could have a booth in there.
33:20
Are anybody reaching out
33:21
outside of the scope of
33:24
grips and booty shorts and
33:29
shoes to get anybody into the venue?
33:41
I don't know, Jake,
33:41
but I can tell you I got
33:42
real tired of seeing ads
33:43
for Boulder Athlete all weekend.
33:47
You put up the money,
33:48
that's what you're going to see.
33:53
And they had a really cool
33:54
booth at the venue with
33:56
cold tubs that they made
33:57
available for every athlete,
33:59
whether they were Boulder or not.
34:13
Um,
34:17
I've got an idea.
34:18
The CrossFit affiliate where
34:19
the athlete comes from.
34:20
The open registrations go
34:21
towards paying their
34:23
registration fee for the games.
34:25
There you go.
34:30
I like Voltaren.
34:31
Personally, really drives the boys away.
34:35
There we go, Voltaren.
34:36
That's a great one.
34:38
Awesome.
34:46
That is insane.
34:51
A ten by thirty vendor space
34:52
is listed at thirty five
34:53
thousand five hundred.
34:56
For which event, Crystal?
35:07
Think how everyone thinks seeing U.S.
35:10
Army and U.S.
35:11
Border Patrol sponsors and
35:13
Jake is in the Isle of Man.
35:15
Like he could give two shits about that.
35:28
Ten by ten space nine grand.
35:33
We just need to bag Apple as
35:35
a main sponsor.
35:36
Yeah, probably not getting that either.
35:42
This weekend,
35:43
they were charging thirty
35:44
five thousand five hundred.
35:46
Now,
35:46
the crowds were way up from Birmingham,
35:49
way up,
35:50
and probably the crowds were
35:51
better than ever at a
35:53
combined games for the
35:54
Masters athlete portion.
35:58
But we're nowhere near where
36:00
you can justify thirty five five.
36:03
no way no way uh u.s army
36:18
and border patrol don't
36:19
have ties with guys running
36:21
the age group games
36:23
wouldn't it be excellent if
36:24
the kgb sponsored the games wow
36:30
Nationwide is on your side.
36:31
We were in the land of
36:33
Nationwide Insurance.
36:35
They have three towers
36:37
downtown that are their headquarters.
36:40
Why didn't someone reach out and say, hey,
36:42
you want to support this
36:44
event we have going on?
36:51
Tristan Patrick,
36:51
we were onto something with Monster,
36:53
but everyone got upset about that.
36:55
I know.
36:56
I am not.
36:58
It was water, people.
37:00
It was water in a can.
37:11
Corey, you say the Allstate.
37:12
I lost you.
37:13
There we go.
37:15
The Allstate Insurance CrossFit Games.
37:17
Nationwide Insurance
37:18
Headquarters was literally
37:19
across the street from where we were.
37:24
Across the street.
37:41
RFK would love the Masters games.
37:44
We should do everything we
37:45
can to get them there.
37:46
There you go.
37:47
See, that's thinking outside the box.
37:50
That's thinking outside the box, right?
37:53
It's not just taking the
37:54
dreamers and charging them to death.
37:57
It's finding other ways to
37:58
attract people there.
38:05
Dude, if it meant the athletes got paid,
38:07
I would take my ass happily
38:09
to the McDonald's.
38:10
Twenty twenty six CrossFit games.
38:13
All right.
38:13
Well,
38:14
you might be going over the edge a
38:15
little bit.
38:24
So I heard Bob say ticket
38:26
sales were up four percent over last year,
38:28
but that's garbage numbers
38:29
because last year it was just masters,
38:31
not teens.
38:32
So the numbers should be
38:33
high double digits.
38:36
I will tell you,
38:38
I was not at the team game,
38:39
so I don't know what their draw was,
38:44
but every heat,
38:48
you could not... You had that...
38:51
struggle your way to get to
38:53
see either get a seat high
38:54
enough over top of the
38:56
crowd of fence sitters,
38:58
or you had to burrow your
39:01
way into the fence.
39:03
It was every event was that way.
39:07
Every heat on every floor,
39:12
the sled push workout.
39:15
I was so far away.
39:17
off to the one side because
39:19
I could not get in close
39:20
enough to even get good
39:22
pictures of Carolyn and Jamie.
39:31
That's a great point, Aaron,
39:32
because I thought about that.
39:34
RFK could teach seminar and
39:35
pushups and pull-ups not RFK, but like,
39:39
why not bring in like the
39:40
power monkeys and do seminars?
39:43
If you would have seen the,
39:44
and I know like Chris was there.
39:47
I know some other people were there.
39:49
If you were inside that venue,
39:50
there was so much open
39:51
space that wasn't being used.
39:54
You could have run like
39:55
little mini camps off to
39:57
the side and done
39:59
partnerships with like power monkey or,
40:01
or have WOD prep do some demos,
40:04
or maybe they did and I just,
40:06
I didn't see them,
40:07
but there was so much space.
40:09
They could have held little
40:13
instructional camps all over the place.
40:16
And you could have partnered
40:17
with people to do that.
40:19
That's the outside the box
40:20
thinking you have to get to.
40:22
You have to make it more
40:24
than just the events to
40:25
bring people into the building.
40:28
And the last thing I'm going to say is,
40:30
The biggest vendor village
40:32
every single year is Wadapalooza.
40:35
And Wadapalooza on Thursdays,
40:37
every single year that I was there,
40:41
had a free day for the public.
40:43
Thursdays were admission free.
40:45
Anybody could walk in the
40:46
doors and they had the
40:48
biggest vendor village of
40:49
anybody I've ever seen.
40:51
Why is that?
40:52
Because you could just walk
40:53
in and the place was crowded.
40:55
What are the complaints
40:56
about Waterpalooza?
40:57
Not enough seating.
40:59
Couldn't get in to see the big event.
41:01
So many people.
41:03
Well, when you have that problem,
41:05
you have a lot of vendors.
41:10
So at least there's
41:11
something you can go do
41:13
when you can't get into the venue.
41:15
Or in this case,
41:16
nobody wants to watch the
41:17
same event all day long
41:20
through all the different age groups.
41:22
Let the people who want to
41:23
see that do that and have a
41:25
robust vendor village with
41:27
plenty of things to do for
41:29
people to go do in the off time.
41:32
And don't charge two hundred eighty bucks.
41:34
Make it affordable.
41:36
Make it affordable for a
41:37
family to go check out what CrossFit is,
41:39
to learn about CrossFit,
41:41
to get better at CrossFit,
41:42
all of those things.
41:59
Put it on an island.
42:00
There you go.
42:07
Yeah, Rogue was just down the street.
42:12
I don't know if it is more
42:13
than three miles, Jay Rich.
42:16
If it is, it's not much more.
42:21
Jar Jar Binks says,
42:22
last year the team games was abysmal.
42:25
Yeah, the crowds were great.
42:27
They sprinkled the teens in
42:29
the middle of everything,
42:30
and the crowds were full for everybody.
42:40
I don't know if putting them
42:41
all together in the same weekend works.
42:44
Honestly, George, I don't.
42:47
I don't mind it making it a
42:48
festival and doing it all
42:49
in the same week.
42:51
But I think you have to
42:52
separate out the masters
42:53
and the teens from the elite.
42:56
And we still have the
42:57
adaptive we have to think about.
42:59
And the adaptive,
43:00
they probably love that
43:02
it's separate now because
43:03
instead of having five
43:05
divisions at the games,
43:07
they have sixteen divisions
43:08
and can cover more people.
43:16
Jake is just hitting below the belt now.
43:18
The CrossFit Games twenty
43:20
twenty six sponsored by Metfix.
43:24
Maybe by then they'll be
43:24
able to tell us what they are.
43:33
uh so many comments sorry
43:38
guys fergie I believe I
43:42
totally agree it needs to
43:44
be more of a festival like
43:45
waterpalooza masters and
43:47
teens are not high drawing
43:48
events but bringing the
43:49
community to make a fitness
43:50
celebration and you get the
43:52
best of both worlds I do I
43:54
agree the same week makes sense to me
43:59
same week have the masters
44:00
and teens go early in the week.
44:02
They finish up.
44:03
And immediately after that,
44:04
the elites then go for the
44:06
rest of the week.
44:08
No crossover like they've
44:09
done in the past.
44:10
Just let it be one.
44:12
And then the other.
44:28
Crystal,
44:28
those numbers she gave me stands
44:31
corrected.
44:35
The prices were for the Albany main event,
44:39
not for the age group.
44:49
Preach, sir.
44:50
There we go.
44:55
I mean,
44:55
I do not give a damn about watching
44:57
sixty plus year olds compete,
44:58
but I would love a festival
45:00
with interactive displays
45:01
where all CrossFit could participate.
45:15
I really enjoyed all the
45:17
different divisions for
45:18
their own uniqueness.
45:23
I like the older divisions.
45:24
I like the younger divisions.
45:26
It's there.
45:27
It's two different forms of CrossFit,
45:29
but the races were good.
45:31
And that's what I'm there for.
45:33
I could sit there and
45:34
critique movement and say
45:36
that the younger ones move better or not.
45:40
Uh,
45:40
but what I love is if it's a race and
45:43
you're giving a hundred
45:43
percent and you're diving
45:46
for the finish line,
45:48
I've been entertained.
45:58
lito on her way are you home
46:00
yet girl uh hi all late to
46:02
the party been napping on a
46:04
bus uh vicky we have not
46:13
talked about crossfit
46:15
crossfit addressing the
46:16
west coast rumor next year
46:17
on ig we have not I don't
46:19
have any additional
46:20
information that was just a
46:22
guy in new york saying that um
46:25
So I don't know how much credence that has,
46:28
but honestly,
46:30
I just need some time to
46:31
kind of regroup and get
46:33
focused back on other stuff.
46:35
And once I do that,
46:35
I'll look into those types of things.
46:51
T-Bird,
46:52
what is the payouts for AG and
46:53
Masters games?
46:55
Holly just posted that again.
46:58
She had run the numbers
46:59
based on the percentages
47:01
and did estimates to the payouts,
47:03
and she posted it last
47:04
night right after our show
47:05
because that question got
47:06
asked last night.
47:13
Okay.
47:20
Kelvin Hux, I attended.
47:21
I would have been more
47:22
inclined to buy from
47:23
vendors if ticket prices wasn't so high.
47:26
That makes perfect sense.
47:30
So by gouging the families
47:34
and making the dreamers pay,
47:37
now you've got consumers
47:40
not willing to spend money
47:42
at the vendor booths that
47:43
you're trying to attract
47:44
sponsors and vendors to.
47:49
Make it cheaper to get in
47:50
people go shopping people
47:52
go shopping vendors are
47:53
happy vendors are happy
47:55
vendors are willing to pay more money.
48:12
um.
48:20
Maybe your final events for
48:21
age groups are Friday.
48:22
Generally not as busy of a day for Indy.
48:25
This also makes Friday super
48:26
busy day for all vendors.
48:43
Okay.
48:45
Well, with that, guys,
48:46
I am right up against my lunch hour.
48:50
It's time for me to go back
48:51
to how to be civil and
48:55
don't be a dick in the
48:56
workplace for probably
48:58
another hour or so.
49:00
And then I have some meetings.
49:03
So that means you
49:03
knuckleheads need to get
49:04
back to work as well.
49:06
I will see everybody
49:07
tomorrow and I don't know
49:09
what we'll dive into,
49:10
but we'll find something with that.
49:13
Have a great day.
49:14
We'll see everybody next
49:15
time on lunch with the Clydesdale.
49:18
Bye.