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Sean Sharaf on His Upset KO Against Gable Steveson(M4A_128K) · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: The Joe Rogan experience. When did you get the offer
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  Speaker 1: for the fight?
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  Speaker 2: How long out? So they had mentioned possibly me fighting
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  Speaker 2: him on the White House. They asked me. That was
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  Speaker 2: the alley he had reached out to me. He's like, hey, like,
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  Speaker 2: they're talking about possibly getting you on the White House.
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  Speaker 2: They know you're a Marine and whatnot. They want Gable Stevenson.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, fucking, I don't care. I've been
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  Speaker 2: watching Gable since he was coming up on the regional scene,
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  Speaker 2: since you were talking about him. Everyone was all hyped
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  Speaker 2: about him. And so. I kind of already knew we
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  Speaker 2: were going to cross paths, but it wasn't until I
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  Speaker 2: was requesting to get on the L.A. card. I heard
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  Speaker 2: they were coming to L.A., and I kept saying, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I want L.A., I want L.A., and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, you got L.A., you're fine, Gable.
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  Speaker 1: So there was a conversation about the White House card.
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  Speaker 1: So this is June. That's when it first came up.
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  Speaker 1: And so how did it wind up taking place in September?
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  Speaker 2: I just never heard back. They talked about it. They
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  Speaker 2: were like, would you take it? And I was like, sure.
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  Speaker 2: And I think maybe they were trying to get Jones
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  Speaker 2: on there too, possibly. I think that might have been
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  Speaker 2: what it was.
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  Speaker 1: I think Dana was hesitant.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: To get John on there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And so I think it was like a, oh, fuck,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm not going, then maybe Gabe was going. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what it was, but that was the first
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  Speaker 2: time I was approached like, hey, would you be open
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  Speaker 2: to fighting him on the White House? And I was like,
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  Speaker 2: of course.
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  Speaker 1: And so how long out did they tell you about
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  Speaker 1: the L.A.
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  Speaker 2: Card? About six weeks. But I had already been in
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  Speaker 2: camp because I was supposed to fight Tai Tuivasa. And
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  Speaker 2: I had to pull out because my nose got broken
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  Speaker 2: in that camp. So I was basically in the camp
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  Speaker 2: for the Thai fight. And then I went straight into that.
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  Speaker 2: into the next camp as soon as I got cleared
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  Speaker 2: to start sparring and stuff. But I was still training
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  Speaker 2: the whole time. I was running. I went full fucking–
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  Speaker 2: I retained my seed. I was fucking– Did you really? Yeah, bro.
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  Speaker 2: I went full eight weeks, no jerk out, no sex,
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  Speaker 2: no nothing. I went full like marine mode. That's why
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  Speaker 2: you guys saw that mat on the ground in the
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  Speaker 2: studio was because I was like really fucking going to.
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  Speaker 2: I ended up getting air mattress after I texted Strickland
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  Speaker 2: because he's.
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  Speaker 1: Like– And, um, you were sleeping on a mat.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Tell people about that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, basically because I, I, I have, um, obviously my,
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  Speaker 2: all my finances are out there already. I can, I
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  Speaker 2: didn't have anything in my name. So I've been, I've
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  Speaker 2: been bouncing around from fighter houses as fighter house LV.
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  Speaker 2: They started out and, um, there's like 40 bucks a
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  Speaker 2: room you get. And I was also staying in the casinos,
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  Speaker 2: fucking gambling, doing a bunch of dumb shit. And, um,
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  Speaker 2: stayed in my car a few times, bouncing back forth
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  Speaker 2: with my mom. It was just a, a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a chaotic situation, and I got a spot, I
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  Speaker 2: got a front from my management. They gave me four grand,
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  Speaker 2: because I was basically, was in California, and I stayed
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  Speaker 2: out there with my mom, and I had to come
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  Speaker 2: back out here for the camp, and I was like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I need funds. Can you guys get me in? They
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  Speaker 2: fronted me four grand on my purse, and they said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: get whatever you want. I mean, they weren't very involved, like,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm being honest. I kind of had to figure
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  Speaker 2: it out on my own, like... And, yeah, I had
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  Speaker 2: a friend. He got me a sublease, got me a spot,
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  Speaker 2: and I just fucking.
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  Speaker 1: It's such a crazy, rocky story. I know, man.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like a fucking movie. I'm saying it, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know. I'm like, bro, people aren't going
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  Speaker 2: to believe this shit. I got to fucking show the receipts,
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  Speaker 2: you know? I'm going to show you some fucking shit.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I've never experienced something like that, but it
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  Speaker 1: has to be like right now, even it's hard to
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  Speaker 1: believe that you did what you did. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I believed I was going to win. I
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  Speaker 2: was telling myself, but I believed it was going to
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  Speaker 2: be a war. I believed it was going to be,
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  Speaker 2: my whole game plan was like, sure, he might get
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  Speaker 2: the takedown, you're going to stay in his fucking face.
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  Speaker 2: I was screaming the fucking affirmation, the Jon Jones speech
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  Speaker 2: when he told DC, and he was all like, there's
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  Speaker 2: nothing you can do to stop me from coming after
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  Speaker 2: you round after round with the most malicious techniques I know.
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  Speaker 2: You will lose this fight, Gable Stevenson. You will lose
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  Speaker 2: this fight. And I was just like, just telling myself
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  Speaker 2: that I was going to go through hell for this,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because all my previous fights, it was first-round knockouts.
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  Speaker 2: All my victories, first-round knockouts, and it kind of gave
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  Speaker 2: me the delusion that I'm just touching guys and they're
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  Speaker 2: going to fall. But then when I got to the UFC, like,
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  Speaker 2: I had that loss with Taffa, and I had Asplen,
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  Speaker 2: I fucking kept cracking him, he wouldn't fall, and then
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  Speaker 2: I kind of started doubting my power a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of started, like, questioning, like, hey, like, fucking,
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  Speaker 2: can I do this? And so, like, when I just
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  Speaker 2: hit him with that left hook and he fell, I
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  Speaker 2: was like, I started cussing. I jumped on. I was fucking, bro.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck is going on, man?
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  Speaker 1: You were, he was a minus 2,400 favorite. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The disrespect.
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  Speaker 1: Was it 2,400? Yeah, it was. That's what it was? Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to be really clear about that. That's
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  Speaker 1: a crazy number. For heavyweight. For heavyweight. It might be
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  Speaker 1: the biggest, at least biggest, bookmaker odds it might be
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  Speaker 1: the biggest upset in the history of sport.
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  Speaker 2: That's what they're saying yeah i mean even with holly
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  Speaker 2: holm and ronda rousey it was just.
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  Speaker 1: Like holly holm was dangerous she was a multiple time
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  Speaker 1: world kickboxing champion multiple time world boxing champion you know
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  Speaker 1: she was a legitimate striker that you know i could
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  Speaker 1: see holly being you know a 10 to 1 dog
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  Speaker 1: or something like that but this was what did it
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  Speaker 1: feel like when you're standing there holding your arms up
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  Speaker 1: were you like in space Well, you went another galaxy?
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  Speaker 2: Everything just felt, like, so, like, even, like, I haven't
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  Speaker 2: seen the clips. I remember I shook Joan's hand and
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  Speaker 2: his hand before they left, but, like, everyone's saying, like,
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  Speaker 2: are you sure you did that? Because, like, I vividly remember, like,
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  Speaker 2: before they walked out and everyone started booing, like, I
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  Speaker 2: shook their hand. I shook his hand, like, that was it.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't say anything. And, um, but, like, bro, everything
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  Speaker 2: just feels like, I haven't even gotten the chance to
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  Speaker 2: digest it. Like, I've been just going this whole week, like,
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  Speaker 2: doing interviews after interviews and Zoom, and it's, like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: so exhausted. I just want to go to a mountain
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  Speaker 2: or to the desert and fucking take some mushrooms with
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  Speaker 2: my dog and process what the fuck is going on, man.
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  Speaker 1: That probably might be a good idea, too, so you
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  Speaker 1: can stay on the course. Because one of the problems
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  Speaker 1: with a big event or a big moment is you
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  Speaker 1: can be defined by that big event and big moment.
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  Speaker 1: And that big moment can be like a centerpiece in
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  Speaker 1: your life instead of the path. So the path you're
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  Speaker 1: on is getting better as an MMA fighter. achieving like
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  Speaker 1: world-class status, fighting for a title eventually. That's the path.
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  Speaker 2: Is it though, Joe?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Why not?
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's why I want to ask you. Cause like,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, everyone's making it seem like this is just
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  Speaker 2: a fucking lucky punch one shot. And like my, so
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  Speaker 2: this is my thing is I've always taken, been taking
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  Speaker 2: my journey fight by fight. Like I, like I got
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  Speaker 2: out the Marine Corps and I was like, Hey, like
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  Speaker 2: I want to be a UFC fighter. And like, it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't like, Oh, I want to be a champion. And
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  Speaker 2: you know, it was just like, I just wanted to be,
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  Speaker 2: in the organization and wear the uniform and just be
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  Speaker 2: able to be able to fucking say I did that.
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  Speaker 2: And the fact that I just lost it, like those
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  Speaker 2: two times, like, fuck it. I was like, they gave
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  Speaker 2: me the uniform, but it didn't feel like it. And
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  Speaker 2: so now like to do this, the people are saying
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  Speaker 2: possibly the biggest upset in history, fucking in my home,
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  Speaker 2: like fucking against all odds. I'm like, bro, like it's like,
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  Speaker 2: can I beat that? Like, do I, You leave the
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  Speaker 2: table when you're up. That's what they say, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like fucking like.
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  Speaker 1: Are you thinking about doing that? Are you thinking about
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  Speaker 1: leaving the table?
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  Speaker 2: I told Micah, the psych at the PI. I told Sergey,
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  Speaker 2: my training partner. I told Gokor. I told all these guys.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, hey, bro, if I win this fight,
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  Speaker 2: the way I'm visualizing it, I might be good with
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  Speaker 2: that because this is fucking like. that was it.
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  Speaker 1: Plus you get free shipping. And I don't, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: like just cause it was such a big moment.
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  Speaker 2: Just, no, it's the fact of what I had to
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  Speaker 2: go to get. Cause like, brother, I've had zero sponsors,
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  Speaker 2: I got zero promo, I got zero, like, any kind of, like,
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  Speaker 2: support throughout this whole thing, like, even, like, with the coaching,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like, my corner, like, I was scrambling to
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  Speaker 2: figure that out, you know, and it was just, like,
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  Speaker 2: I had to beg for so much fucking help throughout
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  Speaker 2: this process, but it just made me fucking, like, no,
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  Speaker 2: I just put a little sour taste in my mouth,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, bro, like, fucking, like, for what, like,
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  Speaker 2: And then on top of that, I got fucking CT scan.
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  Speaker 2: They're saying I got some fucking brain matter and shit.
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  Speaker 2: I'm fucking stitched up from head to toe. I got
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  Speaker 2: fucking all types of injuries. And I'm like, bro, what
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  Speaker 2: am I doing? If we're just fucking for more money,
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  Speaker 2: for a belt, what am I doing? That's why I'm
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: trying to figure out the answers myself.
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  Speaker 1: That's interesting. Well, if that's the case, then definitely go
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: take mushrooms with your dog.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I'm like, maybe you can help me, advise
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  Speaker 2: me here.
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  Speaker 1: The decision is always going to be entirely yours because
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  Speaker 1: it's dependent entirely upon who you are, where you are.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know that. I don't know where you're
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  Speaker 1: at in your life. I don't know where you're at
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  Speaker 1: with your mind. I don't know. There's nothing wrong with
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  Speaker 1: you walking away right now if you choose to do that.
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  Speaker 1: So you have to think about it. And I think
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  Speaker 1: a moment like that, like I said, was so big.
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  Speaker 1: You have to let it settle before you decide what
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  Speaker 1: you're going to do. There's a lot of people– there's
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of different ways to approach fighting. And I
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  Speaker 1: think one of the worst ways is to chase glory
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  Speaker 1: because glory does come to the greats in that glory.
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  Speaker 1: The glory that Justin Gaethje got when he beat Ilya
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  Speaker 1: Teporya at the White House. No one's ever going to
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  Speaker 1: experience that. One of the greatest moments in the history
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  Speaker 1: of combat sports.
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  Speaker 2: That was my logic, too, because when I saw the
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  Speaker 2: Gaethje upset, I was like, bro, what more do you
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  Speaker 2: have to prove? You just shocked the fucking world.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. He could certainly walk, especially Gaethje. He's had this
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  Speaker 1: insane career, incredible career. He could definitely walk away now
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  Speaker 1: and be one of the all-time greats. But Conor, for instance,
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  Speaker 1: like Conor's last fight, like, It seemed like Connor was
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  Speaker 1: doing it to show that he could still do it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't talk to him. I haven't
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  Speaker 1: had a conversation with him as a person. But it
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  Speaker 1: seemed like he wanted to be on top again. He wanted.
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  Speaker 1: to show that he could go out there and still
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  Speaker 1: be a world-class fighter like Max Holloway and just show
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  Speaker 1: that he could do it and you got to wonder
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  Speaker 1: is that the best motivation for a guy that's worth
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  Speaker 1: half a billion dollars and is fucking living in the
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  Speaker 1: lap of luxury.
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  Speaker 2: No, he's just chasing the high. He's chasing the high.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, I just want to go out on top,
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  Speaker 2: going on top.
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  Speaker 1: Is he chasing the high versus is he chasing the dream? So, like,
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  Speaker 1: when he knocked out Jose Aldo, he was chasing the dream.
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  Speaker 1: He was a juggernaut. He was storming through the division.
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  Speaker 1: He was knocking everybody out. He looked like this guy
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  Speaker 1: that had this phenomenal talent and this special charisma, and
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  Speaker 1: he looked like a guy who was chasing this thing,
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  Speaker 1: this dream. His dream of becoming a world champion. So
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: then you achieve it. And then I think the big
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: derailment was the Floyd Mayweather fight, right? He leaves MMA,
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: trains boxing for a while. Has a great performance against
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather. One of the greatest boxers of all time.
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  Speaker 1: Does 10 rounds with him, which is fucking insane.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see my video with him before the fight?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: I went viral with Floyd. I ran into him at Lifetime.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
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  Speaker 2: Because I started promoting myself. So that was the issue.
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  Speaker 2: I kept seeing these collabs and these promos with Gable.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, bro, what the fuck, man? Like,
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  Speaker 2: why is no one pushing me? So I started, like,
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  Speaker 2: just going outside the PI. And I was like, I
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  Speaker 2: did my own promo. And then, like, just the odds, like,
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  Speaker 2: the next day I ran into Floyd at the fucking,
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  Speaker 2: at the Lifetime. And I was like, hey, man, let
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  Speaker 2: me get a quick video fucking to promote my fight
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  Speaker 2: and whatnot. So it's just ironic he's a Floyd.
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  Speaker 1: That's funny. That's funny. Well, that's just to be expected.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you got to realize Gable is, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: Olympic gold medalist, one of the greatest heavyweight wrestlers in
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  Speaker 1: the United States ever produced. And then he goes on
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  Speaker 1: to be undefeated in MMA, wins that fight in dirty boxing.
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  Speaker 1: He's an athletic freak, and he's being trained by Jon Jones.
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  Speaker 2: But who did he beat on the regional scene? That's
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  Speaker 2: what didn't impress me. He got wheel kicked in Mexico.
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  Speaker 2: The guy was like 1-0. Because I was 4-0 on
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  Speaker 2: the regional scene too.
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  Speaker 1: You're 100% correct in that regard. But he couldn't get
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  Speaker 1: any fights. Nobody any good wanted to fight him because
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  Speaker 1: he's Gable. Because he's this insane freak wrestler, and they
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  Speaker 1: want to win. And they want to make their way
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  Speaker 1: through whatever regional circuit it is, get a really good
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  Speaker 1: record and get some experience before they get into the UFC.
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  Speaker 1: They don't want to get flatlined. They don't want to
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  Speaker 1: get beat up and smashed. And a good manager treats
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  Speaker 1: their fighters that way. A good manager says, listen, you're
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  Speaker 1: not ready for that yet. We're going to get you
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  Speaker 1: this guy. Don't get beat by him yet. You can
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  Speaker 1: eventually beat him, but we have to develop these skills.
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  Speaker 1: We have to develop these techniques. We have to Get
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  Speaker 1: you some seasoning. You have to get some hard fights
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  Speaker 1: against some really tough guys so you know what the
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  Speaker 1: fucking basement feels like. You got to know what it's
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  Speaker 1: like to be in the dungeon, you know?
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  Speaker 2: He wasn't in the dungeon.
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't in the dungeon.
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  Speaker 2: They were fucking coddling him and pampering him.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think also when you're that good of an
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  Speaker 1: athlete and you've had that much success in wrestling, which is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the celebrated incredible sport, and then you enter
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  Speaker 1: into MMA with all that hype and fanfare, you start
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  Speaker 1: to believe that you are special. And you're invincible and
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  Speaker 1: you're not a regular human being with very good skills.
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  Speaker 1: Because that's what he is, a regular human being with
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  Speaker 1: very good skills. And you showed it. You showed it
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  Speaker 1: with a fucking perfect left hook. When you stepped outside
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  Speaker 1: and then it was everything in that left hook.
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  Speaker 2: It was pretty.
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  Speaker 1: It was technical.
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  Speaker 2: It was perfect.
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  Speaker 1: And he was reaching at the time, too. Yeah, he
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  Speaker 1: was reaching.
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  Speaker 2: And that was the other thing. He was closing his eyes.
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  Speaker 2: And that was on the replay. And that comes because
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  Speaker 2: he isn't smart enough.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: He hasn't had that experience of fucking being in the
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  Speaker 2: fire over and over again.
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  Speaker 1: He's only been striking for like a year and a half.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: That's why when they asked me, they tried to make
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  Speaker 2: it seem like I was talking shit. Like, are you
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  Speaker 2: impressed by Gabe? I was like, no, I'm not impressed. Like,
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  Speaker 2: what are you not impressed about? I'm like, what the fuck?
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  Speaker 2: He's an Olympic gold medalist. But this is fighting. And
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  Speaker 2: we're going to fight. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, his first fight, he got tagged a bunch,
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: the first fight in the UFC. And that guy fought well.
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: He hit him with some good shots. That guy was
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: there to win. He just, you know, was overwhelmed. Gable
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: got him. But that fucking left hook changed the landscape
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: of the universe, dude.
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: That left hook.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: Changed your life, changed the world. Yeah.
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: There were so many people that, even before the fight,
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: they were like, if you beat Gable, I'm going to
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: name my kid after you. Like, I'm putting my mortgage down.
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know if these comments are real,
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: but there was so many people messaging me and commenting.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: And even with the press conference, they were telling me,
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: please bring up his past. Please bring up his past.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: And I was all like, shit. I fought for my
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: freedom of speech, man. I don't give a fuck. I'll
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: say whatever I want.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot. The whole buildup to a fight
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: is so much. There's so much talking. And there's so
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: many people talking at you and there's so many narratives
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: and so many people like you can get your brain
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: really fucking scrambled during those things, including him, like believing
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: the hype or anybody believing the hype.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: And what was crazy was we weren't even supposed to
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: be on the press conference or even on the main
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: card until Ortega fell out. And that was like, that
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: felt like divine intervention, bro. Cause I was just like,
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. Like I thought I was, I was
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: going to get the press conference. And when I got
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: to fight week, it was like, there was I wasn't
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: on there and then that next day they were like
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: oh no you're your main card you're going you're going
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: to the press conference so maybe that I wouldn't have
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: gotten in his head if I didn't get in the
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: press conference you know