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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello, Cuda, Welcome to a very special episode of our podcasts. Yeah,
- 0:03Speaker 1: promoting another podcast.
- 0:04Speaker 2: It's podcast inception.
- 0:06Speaker 3: Right now now, I feel like I had no choice
- 0:08Speaker 3: to plug this one because my daughter Siena is in
- 0:11Speaker 3: here with us right now.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Hello Siena. Hello, Now what's going on? What's happening?
- 0:15Speaker 4: Well, I've got a brand new podcast called When I
- 0:18Speaker 4: Grow Up.
- 0:18Speaker 1: You've got a podcast, got a bloody podcast.
- 0:22Speaker 3: Yeah, podcast. You're going to hear the first episode of
- 0:25Speaker 3: the podcast. But why we we plug? I mean, I
- 0:27Speaker 3: guess I'm on the podcast with you, But what are
- 0:30Speaker 3: you created? You need to plug the podcast?
- 0:32Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 0:33Speaker 4: Well all the free stuff and skeits have done for
- 0:35Speaker 4: you guys over there.
- 0:36Speaker 1: Yeah enough child labor though you didn't even think about
- 0:40Speaker 1: when the child grow You know, when the children grow
- 0:42Speaker 1: up from those factories, they start wanting money and they
- 0:44Speaker 1: start learning about rights and human rights. Okay, so this
- 0:48Speaker 1: is if this is the least we can do.
- 0:50Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, it's the least you can do.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Give me one once this little plug's done with square.
- 0:55Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is the first episode of the podcast.
- 0:57Speaker 3: Actually really rewarding podcasts to be part of seeing a
- 1:01Speaker 3: you host it with myself, and it's explained the idea
- 1:04Speaker 3: behind the podcast.
- 1:05Speaker 4: Well, it's very hard to know what you want to
- 1:07Speaker 4: be when you grow up. So on the podcast, we're
- 1:09Speaker 4: going to talk to inspirational females to hear this story
- 1:12Speaker 4: and inspire young people. It's great to listen with parents
- 1:15Speaker 4: and with your kids.
- 1:17Speaker 3: Okay, right, who we talk? What big bangers are we talking?
- 1:19Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 1:20Speaker 2: What's some of the guests we've talked.
- 1:21Speaker 3: To so far?
- 1:22Speaker 4: Okay, we're ready for this list?
- 1:23Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:23Speaker 4: Eliza McCartney, pol Voter, Yep, Poul Voter, Lucy Lawless, actor,
- 1:28Speaker 4: Nano girl, science educator, engineer, actually, Jazz Thornton no.
- 1:35Speaker 1: Jas Thornton mental health advocations.
- 1:37Speaker 2: She's actually the first episode of the podcast you're about
- 1:39Speaker 2: to hear shortly.
- 1:39Speaker 4: Yes, Karen Walker and Grayson Wiki.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Karen Walker fashion designer as well, and the netballer Grace
- 1:45Speaker 1: and Wiki. Well that sounds like a great line up.
- 1:48Speaker 3: Where are the men?
- 1:49Speaker 5: We're maybe two?
- 1:53Speaker 2: It's inspirational females, so inspiring your generation.
- 2:00Speaker 4: Already had this, Yeah.
- 2:02Speaker 2: Yeah, I mind you.
- 2:03Speaker 1: There's a lot of a lot of mean with podcasts
- 2:05Speaker 1: out there on there, so yeah, it's a.
- 2:06Speaker 2: Really cool thing to do if you listen with your
- 2:07Speaker 2: kids as well.
- 2:09Speaker 4: Thirty minutes long.
- 2:10Speaker 3: Yeah, so good for like shorter attention span. So he's
- 2:12Speaker 3: the first episode with Jazz Thorn and a lot of
- 2:14Speaker 3: great stuff from Jazz. She is amazing. Her great stuff
- 2:16Speaker 3: are dealing with mental health, with anxiety and also social media,
- 2:20Speaker 3: whether it's good or bad. And it's interesting coming from
- 2:21Speaker 3: someone who's got millions and millions of views on social media.
- 2:24Speaker 3: What her thoughts are?
- 2:25Speaker 2: Now? Yeah?
- 2:26Speaker 1: Can I can I say something about Jess Thorn?
- 2:28Speaker 2: I love her, love her dearly.
- 2:29Speaker 3: But the other day we.
- 2:30Speaker 1: Ran into a cross the road at the cafe and
- 2:33Speaker 1: my coffee order it comes in a tiny little cup
- 2:35Speaker 1: scene it it's called a piccolo. Okay, it's very mockable
- 2:38Speaker 1: hockable drinking. I hold it like this and she's like
- 2:40Speaker 1: that is the tiniest little cup of coffee and she boom.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Photo taken. But I didn't even consent to the photo.
- 2:46Speaker 1: But I was like, don't mock me on social media
- 2:48Speaker 1: for that. I checked my phones. I'm going to bed.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Last time I'm tagged in. She's like, look at this
- 2:53Speaker 1: tiny public shaming of my tiny little coffee here now,
- 2:57Speaker 1: and I see you'd see you see that was for
- 2:59Speaker 1: your personal collection that the people in America are blowing
- 3:03Speaker 1: up about this. Yeah, I've never seen such a tiny
- 3:06Speaker 1: cup of coffee.
- 3:07Speaker 3: Oh, John's got a tiny puffy. We've got a tiny podcasts.
- 3:10Speaker 3: I would love you to listen till you can catch
- 3:12Speaker 3: up with it every week on iHeartRadio where you get
- 3:14Speaker 3: your podcast. It's called When I.
- 3:15Speaker 4: Grow Up the Heads podcast network mine never seeing it
- 3:20Speaker 4: and this is my dadmin.
- 3:21Speaker 5: Hi, and when I grow.
- 3:22Speaker 4: Up, I want to be a TikTok start right, or a.
- 3:26Speaker 2: Sports player Okay, hang on, yeah.
- 3:29Speaker 4: Even a fashion designer. Actually maybe in all.
- 3:31Speaker 3: Player Okay, okay, slow down. Maybe we should talk to
- 3:35Speaker 3: some amazing females who inspire you and who.
- 3:37Speaker 4: You want to be, like, yeah, and we can find
- 3:39Speaker 4: out what they did to get where they are.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Yes, and there's do it as a TV show.
- 3:44Speaker 4: No, Dad, only old people watch TV. They do it
- 3:46Speaker 4: as a podcast.
- 3:48Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, I guess that worksnop.
- 3:50Speaker 5: This is when I grow Up.
- 3:53Speaker 4: Today's guest is Jazz Thornton. As you're here, Jazz does
- 3:56Speaker 4: incredible things to help people with mental health, especially young people.
- 4:00Speaker 4: She shares her inspiring story on the podcast Jazz is awesome.
- 4:04Speaker 3: She's great, I'd say, seeing her like, she's got lots
- 4:07Speaker 3: of riz She's.
- 4:08Speaker 4: Never said that. Every time you see someone call you
- 4:11Speaker 4: think something's for you.
- 4:12Speaker 5: Oh, they got lots of risks.
- 4:14Speaker 4: She tells a pin that there's lots of risk because you.
- 4:16Speaker 5: Think your work so much.
- 4:16Speaker 3: I love saying because it winds you up so much.
- 4:19Speaker 4: Oh my god.
- 4:20Speaker 3: Seriously, though, Jairs is amazing. It was really cool to
- 4:23Speaker 3: find out some tips for mental health for teens, for pearents,
- 4:27Speaker 3: you know, actually for everyone.
- 4:28Speaker 4: And also some good ways when you're dealing with anxiety
- 4:31Speaker 4: and when you're feeling low jeers.
- 4:32Speaker 3: At one point on the podcast, you'll hear she even
- 4:35Speaker 3: got me crying with one story, Dad, You crying with.
- 4:38Speaker 4: Every movie, every animated movie, joy story and turned out.
- 4:43Speaker 4: And that's if you don't fall asleep because they're all
- 4:45Speaker 4: I care.
- 4:46Speaker 3: Okay, okay, all right, there's nothing about me watching the movies. Okay, yeah,
- 4:49Speaker 3: that's true.
- 4:50Speaker 4: Jazz is also a TikTok style with millions of followers,
- 4:53Speaker 4: and I found it really interesting asking her to answer
- 4:56Speaker 4: to whether social media is good or bad.
- 4:58Speaker 3: Yeah, and the of the block button. It is quite interesting, right,
- 5:03Speaker 3: And she.
- 5:03Speaker 4: Also hangs out with famous people. We find out how
- 5:06Speaker 4: she almost missed the chance to hang out with Prince
- 5:08Speaker 4: Harry and.
- 5:09Speaker 5: Mega Marco, and now Jazz got to hang out with me.
- 5:12Speaker 3: So that's great, isn't that?
- 5:13Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not quite as cool.
- 5:14Speaker 4: Told me, I, have you enjoyed our chat as much
- 5:18Speaker 4: as we did?
- 5:18Speaker 3: It really falled me the hope and as you did,
- 5:21Speaker 3: I'd be pretty proud if you ended up helping people
- 5:23Speaker 3: like Jess.
- 5:24Speaker 4: Does hey, dad, today, when I grow up, I want
- 5:27Speaker 4: to be someone who helps people like Jazz thoughtan.
- 5:30Speaker 3: Okay, well, shit, it's I don't know if it's awkwod
- 5:32Speaker 3: or not, but Jess is with us right now as
- 5:35Speaker 3: you say that.
- 5:36Speaker 4: Yeah, j it's so nice to meet you. I've been
- 5:39Speaker 4: such a big fan for a while now.
- 5:40Speaker 5: Oh, it's so nice to meet you. I think that
- 5:42Speaker 5: was the best introduction I've ever had. Oh yeah, I
- 5:44Speaker 5: love that.
- 5:45Speaker 3: I for you on the spot. Yes, yeah, What what
- 5:47Speaker 3: do you admire about Jazz? Then? Why would you want
- 5:49Speaker 3: to be someone like Jess?
- 5:51Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I love your tektik, I love
- 5:55Speaker 4: your dance.
- 5:57Speaker 3: Love it when I do TikTok, and do I get involved?
- 5:59Speaker 3: You're embarrassing me.
- 6:01Speaker 4: Oh, okay, that's just because you're you.
- 6:03Speaker 3: Okay, fine, But I also love.
- 6:06Speaker 4: That jazz helps people so many, like so many people
- 6:08Speaker 4: my age, and by sharing a story and giving people hope, now, jazz,
- 6:13Speaker 4: you help people with their mental health. And with doing
- 6:15Speaker 4: this work, you've got to experience some amazing things, making movies,
- 6:19Speaker 4: meeting famous celebrities and royalty, writing books, and even speaking
- 6:23Speaker 4: of the un Yeah.
- 6:24Speaker 3: But I guess to get to where you are now, Jazz,
- 6:26Speaker 3: it was such a journey for you, you know, going
- 6:29Speaker 3: through some horrible, horrible times. And that's to put it lightly.
- 6:33Speaker 3: How do you feel when you look back at that
- 6:34Speaker 3: and you go, well, here I am now, But I
- 6:36Speaker 3: had to get through that to get to where I
- 6:38Speaker 3: am now.
- 6:38Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 6:39Speaker 6: Absolutely, And I think I often find myself kind of
- 6:42Speaker 6: looking back at it and being like, man, what I
- 6:44Speaker 6: like trade all of that bad stuff so that I
- 6:46Speaker 6: could just have like a normal life. But every day
- 6:49Speaker 6: that someone comes up to me and they're like, oh,
- 6:51Speaker 6: your story's helped me so much or like it and
- 6:53Speaker 6: allowed me to see hope to stay another day, I'm like, oh,
- 6:56Speaker 6: you know what, Actually, all of that stuff, as much
- 6:58Speaker 6: as it sucked, and it was so hard.
- 7:00Speaker 5: I wouldn't take it.
- 7:01Speaker 6: I wouldn't change it because I now get to do
- 7:04Speaker 6: all of these things and just impact people and be
- 7:06Speaker 6: able to share my story, which.
- 7:08Speaker 5: Is twelve year old Jaz would have never thought was possible.
- 7:10Speaker 4: Yeah, so, Jazz, I read around my age you didn't
- 7:13Speaker 4: want to be around anymore, which is really sad. But
- 7:16Speaker 4: what would you tell your younger self at my age?
- 7:18Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I guess what you're saying. Are you're looking back? Yeah,
- 7:20Speaker 3: it's a twelve year old in year old Jazz.
- 7:22Speaker 5: Oh Man.
- 7:23Speaker 6: I just like, there's so much more in the world
- 7:27Speaker 6: than what you can see now. And I think that
- 7:30Speaker 6: when you're you know, when you're twelve, when you're thirteen,
- 7:32Speaker 6: that all you can kind of really see. And I
- 7:34Speaker 6: think for me, because I didn't have the opportunity to
- 7:37Speaker 6: travel or see anything outside of the small town that
- 7:39Speaker 6: I grew up in, New Zealand, my perception was that
- 7:42Speaker 6: the world was just this tiny kind of town that
- 7:46Speaker 6: I was in that nothing could ever change. And it's like,
- 7:49Speaker 6: oh man, there's so much out there, like getting to
- 7:52Speaker 6: finish school and going to the ball and then going
- 7:55Speaker 6: into you know, whether it be university or whatever it
- 7:57Speaker 6: may be. There's just this so much more of the
- 8:00Speaker 6: world than than what you know.
- 8:02Speaker 3: I mean, I grew up a mask and the world
- 8:05Speaker 3: before social media.
- 8:06Speaker 5: I mean, you know, no one wants.
- 8:08Speaker 4: To hear about your stupid mask. Well, you talk about
- 8:11Speaker 4: when I grew up. I don't have social media.
- 8:14Speaker 3: Okay, but when you do grow up in mass wherever
- 8:18Speaker 3: you grow up, but your world is school and everything
- 8:21Speaker 3: around it at the time.
- 8:22Speaker 6: And I think what happens and what happened for me,
- 8:25Speaker 6: especially around that age and with bullying, which is such
- 8:27Speaker 6: a prominent thing in schools now for young people, was
- 8:30Speaker 6: that when you're in that position where you're getting bullied,
- 8:32Speaker 6: you feel like the whole world hates you because your
- 8:35Speaker 6: perception of the whole world is so small. So again
- 8:37Speaker 6: it's quite hard to see like, oh, actually this isn't
- 8:40Speaker 6: the case, and not everyone in the whole world doesn't
- 8:43Speaker 6: like me. It's just a couple of bloody school bullies.
- 8:45Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's hard. The teenagers is hard for
- 8:47Speaker 3: every everyone. I'm looking back. I wore a Looney Tune
- 8:50Speaker 3: dove and made it into a waistcoat and bandanna and
- 8:53Speaker 3: pants sit and went to the school boar. And now
- 8:56Speaker 3: I'm like what was I doing? Geez, I wanted too.
- 8:58Speaker 3: It's terrible, it's not good. No one wants to use
- 9:02Speaker 3: a teenage boys, do they something you wear for the ball?
- 9:05Speaker 4: But I do nature your embarrassing school ball stories.
- 9:10Speaker 3: But it's hard to be teenagers, I mean any teenager, right, Jess,
- 9:14Speaker 3: You're a bubbly kid. And I look at seeing my daughter,
- 9:17Speaker 3: you know, and she's a bubbly kid. But you somewhere
- 9:20Speaker 3: you lost that light as a teen and as a parent,
- 9:23Speaker 3: that's heartbreaking to hear that that happened.
- 9:26Speaker 6: I think my child protection files literally said that I
- 9:29Speaker 6: went from being happy and bubbly to dull and lacking emotion.
- 9:32Speaker 6: And I think that for me was like knowing and
- 9:35Speaker 6: seeing people like you know, yourself in this real, bright,
- 9:38Speaker 6: bubbly teenage and being like, man, that could have been me.
- 9:41Speaker 6: And it took me so long to find that bubbly
- 9:44Speaker 6: again and to find the kind of person that I
- 9:46Speaker 6: used to be. But then once I found it, I
- 9:48Speaker 6: was like, oh my gosh.
- 9:49Speaker 2: This is this is who I am.
- 9:53Speaker 4: If someone's getting bullied, feeling down, or feeling helpless, what
- 9:57Speaker 4: a good ways to cope?
- 9:58Speaker 6: I think that the biggest thing and the best thing
- 10:01Speaker 6: that you can do is to ask for help. I
- 10:03Speaker 6: think that there are so many people, especially in school,
- 10:06Speaker 6: like teachers that are older and wiser and are able
- 10:09Speaker 6: to kind of guide you through that being able to
- 10:12Speaker 6: kind of sit there in silence is just going to
- 10:14Speaker 6: make it.
- 10:14Speaker 5: A lot worse.
- 10:15Speaker 6: Yeah, and so yeah, I do think that the best
- 10:17Speaker 6: thing that you can do is to ask for help,
- 10:19Speaker 6: but in doing that to also always ask for help
- 10:22Speaker 6: from older and wiser. I think when you're really struggling,
- 10:25Speaker 6: asking from help from people that are your own age
- 10:28Speaker 6: or friends at school, it's good that people know what's
- 10:30Speaker 6: going on. But as wise as you are sometimes I.
- 10:33Speaker 5: Mean not even as wise as you are.
- 10:35Speaker 6: Yeah, and so you know, older and wiser and just
- 10:38Speaker 6: learning to ask for help is Yeah.
- 10:41Speaker 5: This is when I grow up.
- 10:45Speaker 3: What about as I guess as a parent as well
- 10:48Speaker 3: with advice, you know, for someone who's just got a
- 10:50Speaker 3: daughter thirteen, you know, I think it's mine. I think
- 10:52Speaker 3: you are you know, I say, yeah, but there's us
- 10:56Speaker 3: worry met all seriousness about you know, the things that
- 10:58Speaker 3: kids have to go through these days, whether it's you know, bullying,
- 11:01Speaker 3: whether it's even vaping, whether it's social media, body image
- 11:04Speaker 3: all those sorts of things is quite worrying as a parent.
- 11:07Speaker 3: What advice? I mean, it's probably you haven't been a
- 11:09Speaker 3: parent nowfore, but what what would you give first? People
- 11:12Speaker 3: like me that want to support my kids through that time.
- 11:16Speaker 6: I think that the biggest thing to do is to
- 11:18Speaker 6: be having these open and honest conversations as much as possible.
- 11:22Speaker 6: I think you can't expect them to come to you
- 11:25Speaker 6: when things are happening at school or when you know,
- 11:28Speaker 6: even things like vaping or social media is happening if
- 11:30Speaker 6: you haven't been opening up, especially like I think the
- 11:34Speaker 6: dinner table used to be really good for that, but
- 11:35Speaker 6: now it's kind of just become we go and.
- 11:37Speaker 5: Watch screens or whatever it may be.
- 11:39Speaker 6: But if you're not having that constant space where you're
- 11:42Speaker 6: just like allowing your kid to debrief their day or.
- 11:45Speaker 5: You know, constantly ask and like how are you really
- 11:48Speaker 5: like how's your day going?
- 11:49Speaker 6: Or doing it in a way that's not judgmental too,
- 11:52Speaker 6: because what I've noticed, especially with social media, the parents
- 11:56Speaker 6: that try to be super strict on it, that's when
- 11:58Speaker 6: the kids turn sneaky and the don't want to talk.
- 12:01Speaker 5: And so learning to a team, you don't have to
- 12:04Speaker 5: understand it, or you know, don't be like oh back
- 12:06Speaker 5: of my day or so much worse. It's got to
- 12:08Speaker 5: silence your kid.
- 12:08Speaker 6: Yeah, just having those spaces, try and reactivate dinner times
- 12:12Speaker 6: if you can, or just even like a couple of
- 12:14Speaker 6: times a week where you're at the dinner table, no
- 12:16Speaker 6: screens and having these conversations so that if stuff does
- 12:19Speaker 6: hit the fan, they feel like they can talk to
- 12:21Speaker 6: you openly and honestly without sneaking around and.
- 12:23Speaker 3: Jobbing off of the school gates. Still give them big
- 12:25Speaker 3: hugging Oh yeah, that sort of stuff.
- 12:31Speaker 4: You're already at worked by like five.
- 12:33Speaker 3: Ye, you don't give me, give me picking up, picking
- 12:37Speaker 3: up inside skill, pick up inside schools.
- 12:42Speaker 4: You bring a lot of people hope with what you've done.
- 12:44Speaker 4: But I read that you didn't do it alone. As
- 12:46Speaker 4: a teenager, you in a pretty dark place and a
- 12:49Speaker 4: doctor named doctor step helped you out.
- 12:51Speaker 5: Yes, doctor Stiff.
- 12:52Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that was someone that you well you
- 12:55Speaker 3: turn to not but I guess by choice at the moment,
- 12:57Speaker 3: but someone who did, like you're saying before, someone old
- 13:00Speaker 3: and wiser that sort of sat with you for a
- 13:01Speaker 3: long time, A long time.
- 13:02Speaker 6: It was supposed to be like a fifteen minute doctor's
- 13:05Speaker 6: appointment ended up being ninety And she said that reality
- 13:09Speaker 6: is that if it was a physical thing, if someone
- 13:12Speaker 6: was having a heart attack, then it doesn't matter how
- 13:14Speaker 6: long you spend with them. You will stay with them
- 13:16Speaker 6: until you can make sure they're stable. And she said
- 13:18Speaker 6: it's the same with mental health, to be able to
- 13:21Speaker 6: sit and stay with someone. And she's like just responding
- 13:23Speaker 6: to it the same way, which is the same thing
- 13:24Speaker 6: with learning to ask for help, like responding it to
- 13:27Speaker 6: the same way as you do with physical health. But yeah,
- 13:29Speaker 6: she was amazing and said a lot of stuff to
- 13:32Speaker 6: me that I'd never really heard from medical professionals. Medical
- 13:35Speaker 6: professionals hadn't told me that there was hope for me,
- 13:37Speaker 6: that things could change. And having someone like that tell
- 13:40Speaker 6: me that, I was like, whoa Like, if she thinks this,
- 13:42Speaker 6: maybe things could change.
- 13:45Speaker 5: And now many many many.
- 13:46Speaker 6: Years later, she's on the board of our charity and
- 13:48Speaker 6: I have adopted myself into their family.
- 13:51Speaker 3: Holiday with her and stuff done. Yeah, see, young people
- 13:55Speaker 3: can hang out with old people.
- 14:00Speaker 5: Thanks she with my mum over here.
- 14:01Speaker 4: She wasn't too impress So, Jazz, do you recommend for
- 14:04Speaker 4: young people when their load talk to someone that will
- 14:07Speaker 4: they trust to find your own doctor Steff, someone you can.
- 14:10Speaker 6: Talk to always always, and I think just keep asking
- 14:14Speaker 6: until someone listens, because there always will be and sometimes
- 14:17Speaker 6: you might not get someone who understands right away. But
- 14:20Speaker 6: I didn't like it took me so long to find
- 14:21Speaker 6: doctor Steff. But eventually someone will listen and be able
- 14:25Speaker 6: to help.
- 14:25Speaker 4: Yeah, can I ask on any tips like things like anxiety?
- 14:29Speaker 5: It happens to all of us.
- 14:30Speaker 4: I get anxiety, You get anxious. But you have a technique, right.
- 14:34Speaker 5: I do.
- 14:35Speaker 6: And it's quite a known technique as well. But box
- 14:37Speaker 6: breathing as a really have.
- 14:39Speaker 5: You heard of it before?
- 14:39Speaker 4: I think I've heard of it.
- 14:40Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 14:41Speaker 6: So it's basically where you breathe in for foe, you
- 14:43Speaker 6: count to four, breathing for four, hold it for four,
- 14:46Speaker 6: breathe out for four, and then hold like no ear
- 14:48Speaker 6: for four and you keep doing that over and over again,
- 14:51Speaker 6: and it will literally calm down your nervous system, like
- 14:54Speaker 6: biologically scientifically we'll calm it down.
- 14:57Speaker 3: And so you just take a moment for yourself somewhere
- 14:59Speaker 3: if it's feeling it, and just go through that breathing.
- 15:02Speaker 6: Yeah, And I will do that often before I get
- 15:04Speaker 6: up on stage and speak at things, and because do
- 15:07Speaker 6: you still.
- 15:08Speaker 3: You know, you deal with some of these things and
- 15:09Speaker 3: you find what techniques and ways to deal with them
- 15:12Speaker 3: now right, Absolutely, it doesn't just mean because you were
- 15:14Speaker 3: feeling low one time, there you're not anymore. It's not
- 15:17Speaker 3: going to happen again.
- 15:18Speaker 4: You know.
- 15:19Speaker 3: It's kind of ways to find ways of dealing with it.
- 15:21Speaker 6: That's been the thing is learning, learning the tools, learning
- 15:23Speaker 6: the techniques. In that way, things won't get as bad
- 15:25Speaker 6: as they were because now I know I know what
- 15:27Speaker 6: to do, I know how to handle it. I know
- 15:30Speaker 6: when to get off my phone and sign out of
- 15:32Speaker 6: social media. Yeah, all of those things are very very good,
- 15:35Speaker 6: but yeah, box breathing is a really good thing for
- 15:37Speaker 6: people to learn.
- 15:38Speaker 3: Now, you at your charity, you know voices of hope,
- 15:41Speaker 3: You've got your podcast hope is real as well. I
- 15:43Speaker 3: guess your message is always about finding hope. I hope,
- 15:46Speaker 3: I've got hope. I've got the right message from all
- 15:48Speaker 3: the things that you do. Ye find that hope. Though
- 15:51Speaker 3: sometimes when things feel about hopeless, used hope a lot
- 15:55Speaker 3: during that question.
- 15:57Speaker 4: That's frambling answer.
- 15:59Speaker 5: Look for it's the time.
- 16:02Speaker 6: Jazz, I think that what I found is and when
- 16:06Speaker 6: it was really dark, I thought that hope just didn't exist,
- 16:08Speaker 6: and I'm like, oh, hope is always there. Sometimes it's
- 16:10Speaker 6: just really hard to find it, and sometimes other it's
- 16:14Speaker 6: where other people can come in and kind of try
- 16:16Speaker 6: to out hold the hope when you're trying to find it.
- 16:18Speaker 5: And that's what Stiff did with me. She was like, no, Jaz,
- 16:21Speaker 5: is hope for you.
- 16:21Speaker 6: But I think being able to try and look forward
- 16:24Speaker 6: and dream to the future, if you could do anything,
- 16:27Speaker 6: what would it be, Because it's really hard to fight
- 16:30Speaker 6: if you don't know what you're fighting for. And so
- 16:32Speaker 6: if you can say, like for me, one of the
- 16:34Speaker 6: biggest things. And I remember writing this down in the
- 16:36Speaker 6: hospital one day. They keept trying to make me write
- 16:38Speaker 6: a bucket list, and I was like, I want to
- 16:39Speaker 6: write a bucket list, and eventually I did.
- 16:41Speaker 5: And at the top of their bucket list was to
- 16:43Speaker 5: visit New York City. And then when I finally was there,
- 16:45Speaker 5: I now work there all the time.
- 16:46Speaker 3: Yeah, you go there. You're going in a couple of
- 16:48Speaker 3: days to speak at the UI, Yes, tomorrow, yeah yeah.
- 16:53Speaker 6: And so to be able to stand there and be like,
- 16:55Speaker 6: oh my gosh, like this is what you know, fifteen
- 16:58Speaker 6: year old Jazz was fighting for to one have that moment,
- 17:02Speaker 6: been able to hold hope that way is yeah, just
- 17:04Speaker 6: a day at a time sometimes.
- 17:07Speaker 4: So when did you decide to use your story and
- 17:09Speaker 4: your profile, your social media, public speaking books, speeches, and
- 17:13Speaker 4: your podcast like use it to help others? Did that
- 17:16Speaker 4: just like happen or did you decide to do it?
- 17:18Speaker 6: I mean, it was definitely a decision, but I never
- 17:22Speaker 6: expected it to be what it's become, Like this is wild.
- 17:26Speaker 6: Like I remember, actually your dad and John O were
- 17:29Speaker 6: in our first ever Voices of Hope campaign.
- 17:31Speaker 5: There we did do you remember that we had a
- 17:33Speaker 5: rugby ball and you were like throwing the ball.
- 17:36Speaker 6: But I decided to go to film school because when
- 17:39Speaker 6: I was in the middle of my struggles, I spent
- 17:42Speaker 6: a lot of time trying to research other people's stories
- 17:45Speaker 6: just to know that there was hope, and back then
- 17:47Speaker 6: I couldn't find anything. I think John Kernwain had to
- 17:50Speaker 6: kind of just come out with his story and that
- 17:51Speaker 6: was really it. And so when I came out the
- 17:54Speaker 6: other side, I was like, I just want to learn
- 17:55Speaker 6: to tell these stories so that people can no matter
- 17:58Speaker 6: what it is, they're facing can go find hope, So
- 18:00Speaker 6: study directing. But yeah, my first show got picked up
- 18:04Speaker 6: that had two terms into film school, and then the
- 18:06Speaker 6: movie got signed and the books got signed the year after,
- 18:08Speaker 6: and then it kind of just then.
- 18:10Speaker 5: I got on TikTok. I don't even wanted to do
- 18:13Speaker 5: but talk to Stiff's kids, but like, you gotta get
- 18:16Speaker 5: on TikTok.
- 18:17Speaker 6: And I was like, no, in the first video over
- 18:18Speaker 6: post it was so lame. It was a freaking dog
- 18:21Speaker 6: with a stick like a run. I don't know what
- 18:23Speaker 6: I was doing, And then started to share. But I
- 18:26Speaker 6: did the series and the movie and the first book
- 18:28Speaker 6: before TikTok existed, and I guess TikTok really is just
- 18:32Speaker 6: what blew up?
- 18:33Speaker 5: Yeah, everything, but yes it was.
- 18:35Speaker 6: It was a decision to tell these stories, not necessarily
- 18:39Speaker 6: my story to this extent, but it happened.
- 18:42Speaker 5: And now I'm like, oh, well, if people find hope
- 18:44Speaker 5: in it is what it happens.
- 18:45Speaker 4: Is it hard putting yourself out there? And like how
- 18:48Speaker 4: many nasty comments you encounter? Like how do you deal
- 18:50Speaker 4: with that?
- 18:51Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean there's always negativity, I guess, Jaz. I
- 18:53Speaker 3: mean just google John O and Bean if you want
- 18:55Speaker 3: to make yourself feel better.
- 18:56Speaker 6: I've learned the power of the block button on social media.
- 18:59Speaker 6: I love a girl blah blah blah blah. If people
- 19:01Speaker 6: are mean, I'm like, I don't have to see this.
- 19:06Speaker 6: People don't have to comment.
- 19:07Speaker 3: This is the thing. And it probably sounds like an
- 19:08Speaker 3: old man ranting here, so you know, we'll roll her eyes.
- 19:10Speaker 3: But you don't have to comment on everything. If you
- 19:12Speaker 3: don't like something, you don't have to comment.
- 19:14Speaker 5: It's true.
- 19:14Speaker 4: You can get away though, Like why do you feel
- 19:17Speaker 4: the need to comment on someone else's video.
- 19:19Speaker 3: All the time? You know, but that's kind of I
- 19:20Speaker 3: guess within social media is encouraged to comment. Yeah, but
- 19:25Speaker 3: sometimes I'm like, oh don't. You can probably walk away
- 19:28Speaker 3: and not comment.
- 19:28Speaker 6: Well, I think a lot of the main backlash that
- 19:31Speaker 6: I've had was at the start, and it was all
- 19:33Speaker 6: like middle aged specifically, to be honest, middle aged men.
- 19:37Speaker 5: Yeah, it was basically just but they were very much
- 19:44Speaker 5: just like because they still couldn't get past the attention
- 19:46Speaker 5: seeking as.
- 19:47Speaker 6: So they were just like the film was getting announced
- 19:49Speaker 6: and they were like this attention seeking blah blah blah,
- 19:53Speaker 6: and I was like, oh my gosh, like come on,
- 19:56Speaker 6: but I've started to kind of I'm like, hey, most
- 19:58Speaker 6: of our statistics and it aged men, so this is
- 20:01Speaker 6: not just for our teenagers.
- 20:02Speaker 3: Yeah, it's for you everyone, every right.
- 20:05Speaker 4: Yeah, you didn't just upset older people like that.
- 20:08Speaker 5: You upset it.
- 20:10Speaker 4: Uky one of their chocolates wrong.
- 20:13Speaker 5: This is the most viral thing I have ever done.
- 20:16Speaker 3: So if not if people are listening to that, what
- 20:17Speaker 3: the heck was this? There was a chocolate from the UK,
- 20:19Speaker 3: you got sent from a friend and you weren't sure
- 20:21Speaker 3: how to eat it, but you ate it on TikTok
- 20:23Speaker 3: and everyone was like it almost called a national incident
- 20:26Speaker 3: between New Zealand and the UK because you ate it wrong.
- 20:28Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah it was.
- 20:29Speaker 6: It was, and all the like media radio stations from
- 20:32Speaker 6: around the world were covering this.
- 20:35Speaker 5: Poor world. Do you get it?
- 20:36Speaker 6: Bloody if any food item and go, oh you know
- 20:38Speaker 6: how I eat this? I smash it on a table,
- 20:41Speaker 6: I ate it.
- 20:41Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 20:42Speaker 5: I thought the way you ate it, to be fair,
- 20:43Speaker 5: was the way it was. How did you eat it?
- 20:45Speaker 5: I got it? So you're supposed that the whole concept,
- 20:49Speaker 5: thank you.
- 20:50Speaker 6: You're supposed to smash it and then it falls into
- 20:52Speaker 6: segments and then you eat the segments, but I didn't
- 20:55Speaker 6: know this information.
- 20:56Speaker 4: Does it have instructions on it? No?
- 20:58Speaker 5: Mine didn't because it was a nineteenth box.
- 21:01Speaker 4: Well, yeah they can't.
- 21:02Speaker 5: They can't get mad, you know.
- 21:04Speaker 6: But didn't have instructions I have trying to prevent me
- 21:06Speaker 6: now from getting in the border of the United Kingdom.
- 21:08Speaker 5: It was like a petition that went out.
- 21:10Speaker 3: Really sometimes.
- 21:16Speaker 4: This is when I grow up. You're big on techtok,
- 21:21Speaker 4: love what you do, but you have millions of followers.
- 21:23Speaker 4: I found myself watching too much techtok and dad tells
- 21:26Speaker 4: me to get off. Yeah. So what do you actually
- 21:29Speaker 4: think of social media? Good or bad?
- 21:31Speaker 5: I think both, and you say good.
- 21:34Speaker 6: I think what is amazing about social media is that
- 21:40Speaker 6: when your dad was growing up, and especially I think
- 21:43Speaker 6: a woman that you know your age, the only idea
- 21:46Speaker 6: that you had of people were magazines was the Kardashians
- 21:50Speaker 6: was edited things that was selected by the media, So
- 21:53Speaker 6: there was no other way.
- 21:54Speaker 5: At least it was like reality TV.
- 21:56Speaker 6: There was no other way to see normal lives, so
- 21:58Speaker 6: you were only kind of rowing up seeing this picture
- 22:01Speaker 6: perfect body and like these perfect bodies and that's it,
- 22:04Speaker 6: We're Social media has completely taken that power away from
- 22:08Speaker 6: the media and is like, this is real life, These
- 22:11Speaker 6: are real bodies, these are real stories. My life is
- 22:13Speaker 6: not glamorous. And I think there's definitely a lot of
- 22:16Speaker 6: negatives to social media. We all know that the bullying,
- 22:21Speaker 6: the time consumed, but the stuff that you can learn
- 22:23Speaker 6: on there, the fact that you can grow up and
- 22:25Speaker 6: see people like myself on there, or people that don't
- 22:29Speaker 6: aren't cut Ashians or have pitch perfect lives.
- 22:31Speaker 5: But that's actually really healthy in my opinion.
- 22:33Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a way. You're right, it's opened the world up.
- 22:37Speaker 5: To not just that select Yeah, screen time not as healthy.
- 22:40Speaker 5: I don't even want to know what line is.
- 22:42Speaker 6: And obviously there is a lot of danger to social
- 22:45Speaker 6: media and stuff, but I think the reality is it's
- 22:47Speaker 6: not going anywhere, so learning how to use that. Setting
- 22:50Speaker 6: screen time limits for especially your age, as very important.
- 22:55Speaker 5: Otherwise in your world just becomes.
- 22:57Speaker 6: Social media and how many likes can I get in that,
- 23:00Speaker 6: which is not important in the real world at all.
- 23:02Speaker 3: But you can see things can go off. Put this
- 23:04Speaker 3: video out, they didn't get.
- 23:06Speaker 6: Your self worth starts to go with it because you're like, oh,
- 23:09Speaker 6: this photo didn't get as many likes, or you're looking
- 23:11Speaker 6: through to see who liked it.
- 23:12Speaker 5: My friend didn't like well, wherever.
- 23:14Speaker 2: It may be.
- 23:14Speaker 6: So my biggest thing is how do we teach young
- 23:17Speaker 6: people to not put their worth and their identity in
- 23:20Speaker 6: social media. That's kind of more. I think how even
- 23:25Speaker 6: how parents and stuff, how we can encourage that.
- 23:27Speaker 4: You've done so many amazing things, from winning reality shows
- 23:30Speaker 4: to speaking at the un movies.
- 23:32Speaker 5: Books podcast, this podcast, this podcast.
- 23:36Speaker 4: What is the one thing you're most proud of?
- 23:39Speaker 3: Man?
- 23:39Speaker 6: I think all of these things have been really cool
- 23:42Speaker 6: to do, and you know, I would have never imagined
- 23:45Speaker 6: winning Dancing with the Stars, will been able to work
- 23:47Speaker 6: with Prince Harryt and do this crazy things. But I
- 23:49Speaker 6: think above absolutely everything, there was a moment I'll never
- 23:53Speaker 6: forget where I was speaking at a conference and there
- 23:56Speaker 6: was this mother that came up to me and she
- 23:57Speaker 6: was just crying and I looked at her and I
- 24:00Speaker 6: hugged her, and then she just said, my daughter, she's
- 24:04Speaker 6: been in and out of sight words for a long time.
- 24:06Speaker 6: She's been really struggling, and she I got her your
- 24:09Speaker 6: book and when she read it, it was the first
- 24:12Speaker 6: time that she felt her the first time that she felt.
- 24:14Speaker 2: Like there was hope.
- 24:15Speaker 6: And I remember kind of looking up and the daughter
- 24:17Speaker 6: was there and she's crying, and I just in that moment,
- 24:20Speaker 6: was like, man, this is why this tops anything, any
- 24:24Speaker 6: kind of achievements, as you don't do it for anything
- 24:26Speaker 6: else than those moments of going these people know that
- 24:30Speaker 6: there's hope.
- 24:31Speaker 3: It must be special for you, you know, And I
- 24:34Speaker 3: mean your story has helped so many people.
- 24:36Speaker 5: I think I cry every time that I meet people
- 24:39Speaker 5: like that. And now it's happening all over the world.
- 24:41Speaker 6: I was in the US or the UK and Scotland
- 24:44Speaker 6: and there's people coming up to me there saying the
- 24:46Speaker 6: same thing, and it's so cool to go actually, like
- 24:49Speaker 6: all I've done is gone, Hey, there's hope, and other
- 24:51Speaker 6: people have chosen to fight to stay and I think
- 24:54Speaker 6: that's what's really cool.
- 24:55Speaker 3: Yeah, but above Prince William and Prince Harry hanging out
- 24:59Speaker 3: with them, you.
- 24:59Speaker 5: Know, cool, but not as cool as their period. Like
- 25:02Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't care about it, Like it's cool,
- 25:06Speaker 5: and I'm like, wow, how do I end up here?
- 25:08Speaker 5: But that's never the reason you do it. And I
- 25:11Speaker 5: stopped it.
- 25:11Speaker 6: If people weren't getting impacted by the story, I'm not
- 25:14Speaker 6: doing my job right. So it's you know that one
- 25:16Speaker 6: hundred percent. It's always those stories that just oh that's why, why.
- 25:21Speaker 3: Why, that's the why you do it? Okay, so we
- 25:22Speaker 3: need to ask how did you end up hanging out
- 25:25Speaker 3: with Megan and Harry.
- 25:27Speaker 6: So we actually nearly missed this entire opportunity. We were
- 25:31Speaker 6: getting this this email. I do a lot of speaking,
- 25:33Speaker 6: and I got this email from this woman who sits
- 25:35Speaker 6: us from Wellington being like, hey, can you come down
- 25:37Speaker 6: and speak at this conference? And at the time I
- 25:39Speaker 6: was like, I'm really buzy, Like I just she was like,
- 25:42Speaker 6: give me a call when you can. We played phone
- 25:44Speaker 6: tag for like two weeks and eventually I was like,
- 25:46Speaker 6: I need to answer the lady from Wellington, and so
- 25:49Speaker 6: I answered the phone and she goes, I don't actually
- 25:51Speaker 6: want you to speak an event. I'm a Royal advisor
- 25:55Speaker 6: and Prince Harry and Meghan are coming to New Zealand
- 25:56Speaker 6: and they want to have coffee with you.
- 25:58Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, and I was like oh.
- 25:59Speaker 5: And afterwards they were email The first time.
- 26:03Speaker 6: I think she just wanted like to know I was
- 26:05Speaker 6: legit right and I wasn't just going to jump on
- 26:07Speaker 6: it for that reason, and then her like the signature afterwards,
- 26:11Speaker 6: added Royal Advisor, and I was like, you told me
- 26:14Speaker 6: that in the first place.
- 26:16Speaker 3: So you meet them for like your coffee?
- 26:18Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 26:18Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 26:19Speaker 6: So we went down to Wellington, we meet them for coffee,
- 26:21Speaker 6: and I remember sitting there being like, what.
- 26:22Speaker 3: Do we do you bow?
- 26:24Speaker 6: Do you say you're like Wood Curtsey and then came
- 26:27Speaker 6: in and they just kind of like shook our hands,
- 26:30Speaker 6: sit down, and like afterwards were hugging us, and I
- 26:32Speaker 6: was like, I feel like we weren't supposed to do that,
- 26:35Speaker 6: and you're also not supposed to like like take photos
- 26:38Speaker 6: properly with them, but we did that, which I'm so
- 26:40Speaker 6: glad that we did. But yeah, they were so nice.
- 26:44Speaker 6: And then wait, I don't know, this is really funny.
- 26:46Speaker 6: We were doing interviews afterwards and one of the reporters
- 26:50Speaker 6: was asking us how was it. It was a good
- 26:51Speaker 6: and gin so we're having coffee and then there was
- 26:55Speaker 6: like slices and stuff on there and she was like,
- 26:58Speaker 6: the ginger crunch was really good. The reporter thought that
- 27:01Speaker 6: she was talking about Prince Harry, so he got the
- 27:05Speaker 6: nickname the ginger Crunch from Crossing.
- 27:07Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I mean that shows that they are you know,
- 27:09Speaker 3: I'm sure they're just real people, you know, Like, yes
- 27:12Speaker 3: they have again they have a thing that their jobs
- 27:15Speaker 3: where the actors or Yal family has put them on
- 27:18Speaker 3: a real public profile.
- 27:19Speaker 5: I think it's really.
- 27:20Speaker 6: Funny though, because we even then. I don't know if
- 27:22Speaker 6: you know this, but me and Jing got an award
- 27:23Speaker 6: from Her Majesty the Queen US. We were supposed to Buckingham,
- 27:27Speaker 6: so we did some stuff with obviously with Harry and Meghan,
- 27:30Speaker 6: and then we went and met with the Royal Foundation,
- 27:33Speaker 6: which is the people that they were doing stuff with.
- 27:36Speaker 6: But yeah, the award from the Queen. We were supposed
- 27:38Speaker 6: to go and receive it in Buckingham, but it was
- 27:40Speaker 6: in COVID so we couldn't.
- 27:41Speaker 5: So I arrived at our house in the post cracked
- 27:44Speaker 5: and this like it was so bad, and I was like,
- 27:46Speaker 5: this is from the Palace and it's like in this
- 27:49Speaker 5: little weird no. But it's got a little Queeny's signature
- 27:53Speaker 5: on it, ri ip.
- 27:54Speaker 4: But what was it?
- 27:56Speaker 5: It was an award for our service to mental health
- 27:59Speaker 5: as well in the Commonwealth.
- 28:00Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want to each, you just wonder share
- 28:02Speaker 3: one each. That's good, that's good.
- 28:04Speaker 5: It is a great time.
- 28:06Speaker 4: You've done a lot of reality TV. What was harder
- 28:08Speaker 4: learning dancing steps and dancing with the stars or going
- 28:11Speaker 4: without much food on Celebrity Treasure.
- 28:13Speaker 3: Celebrity Treasure Island really, oh my gosh, learning dance steps
- 28:18Speaker 3: through the day, and.
- 28:19Speaker 6: I mean Dancing with the Stars was rough, like that's
- 28:21Speaker 6: eleven hour like eleven hour days, eleven weeks, like you
- 28:25Speaker 6: don't have a single day because we were in rehearsals
- 28:28Speaker 6: before anything was an hours and so it was crazy
- 28:31Speaker 6: TikTok TikTok Dancing the.
- 28:33Speaker 5: Stars and it was live as well, which was scary show.
- 28:36Speaker 3: That TikTok Dancing the Stars. Just put it up, who
- 28:38Speaker 3: gets the most views over a week?
- 28:39Speaker 5: Great idea, dance, don't I see it?
- 28:42Speaker 3: I was like, please dig up, don't you go on that.
- 28:44Speaker 3: You've tried to stay in my brain though dancing obviously
- 28:48Speaker 3: it does with you. You know you can learn.
- 28:50Speaker 6: Steps, managed to do it Treasure Island. First of all,
- 28:53Speaker 6: I'm like, there's so many reasons that I could. I
- 28:56Speaker 6: was just terrible. I had just had COVID as well,
- 28:59Speaker 6: Like I was pushed out a day from going because
- 29:01Speaker 6: I had COVID, and then you know, I'm asthmatic, I'm
- 29:04Speaker 6: disleeks like I'm adhd.
- 29:06Speaker 5: My hand was broken and so trying to do anything
- 29:09Speaker 5: was was so hard.
- 29:11Speaker 6: But I think, yeah, living on rice and beans and
- 29:15Speaker 6: I've got I'm allergic to seafood and so like people
- 29:17Speaker 6: were trying to catch fish and I was like, well,
- 29:19Speaker 6: I can't you know, eat any of that. And then
- 29:22Speaker 6: you're doing these big endurance challenges and yeah, it's like
- 29:25Speaker 6: it's crazy. You get like we got emergency evacuated one night,
- 29:29Speaker 6: and it's just you just cry every day.
- 29:31Speaker 3: I feel like for TV, they would go and stop
- 29:33Speaker 3: record and then be like all right, guys, great, shoot,
- 29:35Speaker 3: let's go to the airbnb, the hotel. Nah, but it's
- 29:38Speaker 3: like it's legit. You guys are in there.
- 29:40Speaker 6: We you don't have pillows. I think that was the
- 29:42Speaker 6: big thing, like you had, and I was just like
- 29:44Speaker 6: could no, No, you weren't allowed. So you had to
- 29:47Speaker 6: like roll up sweatshirts and like just try to use that.
- 29:50Speaker 4: And then you're allowed to bring like a pillow case
- 29:52Speaker 4: and stuff it with clothes.
- 29:53Speaker 6: So that's what some people did. I didn't know this information,
- 29:56Speaker 6: and so I'm going to out myself here. When we
- 29:58Speaker 6: got emergency evacuated and we went to the hotel howls.
- 30:00Speaker 6: I took the hotel. I was like, I'm so sorry,
- 30:06Speaker 6: I will pay the hotel mat. They have so many
- 30:08Speaker 6: of them because some people did that.
- 30:10Speaker 3: But yeah, you just kind of had to like roll
- 30:12Speaker 3: up like cloth, yeah and then just kind of use
- 30:14Speaker 3: it as the case and yeah, like school camp, they
- 30:17Speaker 3: give you a list of going all these are all
- 30:19Speaker 3: the things.
- 30:19Speaker 6: You kind of yes, but I've got so much stuff
- 30:21Speaker 6: taken off me because they bag search you as if
- 30:23Speaker 6: you were like coming into a new country and you've
- 30:25Speaker 6: got all the illegal stuff. So like I had like
- 30:27Speaker 6: baby wipes got taken off me because they could be
- 30:29Speaker 6: used as toilet paper.
- 30:32Speaker 5: I use toilet paper.
- 30:33Speaker 6: I was like, this is all like no mirrors, but
- 30:35Speaker 6: they us have makeup so you could do your makeup
- 30:38Speaker 6: without any mirrors, which was I just was like this,
- 30:40Speaker 6: maybe you could like smash the mirror something well a
- 30:43Speaker 6: year or like maybe the mirror would start a fire
- 30:45Speaker 6: if you know.
- 30:47Speaker 5: And where we were and Wonnaca like it's quite dry land,
- 30:51Speaker 5: but it was. I think Slippertish Ryland was the hardest
- 30:53Speaker 5: thing I had done you ever done, absolutely like it
- 30:57Speaker 5: was wild. Would I do it again? Probably because it's
- 31:01Speaker 5: I love that kind of thing. It's fun, but it
- 31:02Speaker 5: definitely takes.
- 31:03Speaker 4: It before we go. I want to fire at you,
- 31:06Speaker 4: Sam quick fire questions to find out if I really
- 31:08Speaker 4: want to be like you.
- 31:10Speaker 5: This game is called this or that?
- 31:12Speaker 4: Okay, Ready, TikTok or Instagram TikTok, Harry Styles or Harry Potter,
- 31:17Speaker 4: Harry Styles, Okay, Dandles or Crocs, Crocs, Minecraft or Fortnite.
- 31:21Speaker 5: I haven't played either.
- 31:25Speaker 4: Prime Energy or Frank Green Drink Bottle, Frank Green everyone.
- 31:30Speaker 4: I love Frank Emotion or support water Okay, Kindle or
- 31:34Speaker 4: a real book, Real book, Netflix or Snapchat, Netflix, air
- 31:40Speaker 4: pods or a zero point five photo.
- 31:43Speaker 3: Zero point five is the new Well, it's probably not
- 31:46Speaker 3: feel like I've just got on to it. It's very
- 31:48Speaker 3: cool high angle stuff.
- 31:50Speaker 5: Yeah, but I have my AirPod Maxes, which I love.
- 31:53Speaker 3: Like those different.
- 31:54Speaker 6: Yeah, it is a different. Okay, I'm gonna get in
- 31:56Speaker 6: that case. I'm going to do zero point five.
- 31:58Speaker 3: But also all right, sleep in or.
- 32:02Speaker 4: Stay up late, sleep and Barby movie or Fast and Furious,
- 32:08Speaker 4: Prince Harry or Prince William. They're probably not going to
- 32:11Speaker 4: hear that.
- 32:12Speaker 3: You know, she think he wants is going to do
- 32:15Speaker 3: the chocolate either, we don't want to know that. How
- 32:17Speaker 3: about we don't know? Answer that one? We don't want
- 32:19Speaker 3: to cause another incidental incident.
- 32:21Speaker 4: It's the final JOHNO will be in, can't there?
- 32:27Speaker 3: Yes, thank you so much for what you did.
- 32:29Speaker 4: I definitely want to be like you because you have
- 32:31Speaker 4: so many people. What you do now literally saves lives.
- 32:34Speaker 4: Thank you for sharing your story and giving people hope.
- 32:36Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much.
- 32:37Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
- 32:39Speaker 5: How cool is Jazz? Do you see why I want
- 32:42Speaker 5: to be like her?
- 32:43Speaker 3: She is cool? But also she chose you over me?
- 32:46Speaker 1: Right?
- 32:46Speaker 3: Yeah? Now, really inspiring us so much great advice from Jazz,
- 32:50Speaker 3: and I actually found really interesting Her answer about how
- 32:53Speaker 3: she choose to help people over anything that she's achieved
- 32:56Speaker 3: personally is yeah, awesome.
- 32:58Speaker 4: It shows what a sort of person she is.
- 33:00Speaker 3: You know, so settled, you want to grow up and
- 33:02Speaker 3: you want to be Jess Lawnton.
- 33:03Speaker 1: Right.
- 33:04Speaker 4: Well maybe, but there's lenchy of other inspiring people who I.
- 33:07Speaker 3: Could be like, Oh, so we're doing this again, aren't we?
- 33:09Speaker 4: Yeah, don't forget to like and subscribe or you'll miss out.
- 33:12Speaker 4: And who the nixt inspiring person could be