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Welcome to Viber Cuts, Beats and fives.
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We're a father to daughter music podcast that slices into some of
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the greatest albums, one cut at a time.
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With no industry ties or formal training, just a shared love of
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music, we explore albums across genres, writing favorites and
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skips while digging into what makes each one iconic.
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I bring the beats. And I bring the bars and
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together we deliver real talk and fresh takes from both sides
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of the sound. Hey everybody, I'm Riley.
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And I'm Todd, and welcome to this week's edition of Barbara
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Cuts. So Season 2, our first music
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episode after our intro. And this week we are talking
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about Thriller Michael Jackson 1982.
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So let's get right into it. Riley, what are your least
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favorite songs? Oh, OK, so the one of my least
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favorite songs was the the Lady in my life.
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Unfortunate because it was the last one.
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It was slower. It was a little bit more I don't
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know it this whole album was very 80's pop.
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This one was like the slow but yet still had like the
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synthesizer in it and it's. Like it was released in the 80s
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and a pop album so. I know that, I know that, I know
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that, but this one just really, really just was heavy on that.
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It's also the least well known song on this album by a
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significant amount, almost like a 100 million less.
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And I I can kind of see why it's it's a weak, weaker song and a
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very strong album. So it's gonna get a little left
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behind the other. One and and by like compared to
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Billie Jean, it's about 2 billion behind.
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Yeah, yeah, it's it is impressive.
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So that's also that's also one of my least favorite.
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So I'll just go ahead and throw it in there, you know, And
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that's why I said it's honestly a a downer of an ending song for
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an album and. Especially when you just had
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PYT. That's what I put like right
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after PYT, you get this and it's like, oh, as we'll bring back
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this turn from Season 1, it was a snooze fest.
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Yeah. So yeah, I agree with you.
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My other least favorite was Human Nature, and I think this
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one was my other least favorite for a similar reason.
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You go from honestly, I like that girl, the girl is mine, but
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you go from Thriller to Beat It to Billie Jean to Human Nature,
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and then you're back to PYPYT like it.
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It's such the odd one out in that like just 4 insanely well
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put together songs like perfect, almost like the close to perfect
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songs you can get and human nature is just thrown in the
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middle of it. And I so I think I was between
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baby be minded human nature and I think human nature just lost
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because it it had to compare to the three songs before it and
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the one song after it. Yeah, you know.
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Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah.
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My my other least favorite you mentioned it was this girl
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there. The girl is mine.
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And it was between that one and and baby be mine.
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Those are really the only three that I didn't really care for.
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And so I went with this one because I on baby be mine.
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I like the funky, actually, you know, contrary to what I
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normally do, I like the soulful, funky beat of Baby Be Mine
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better than the storytelling back and forth of, you know,
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Jackson and Paul McCartney basically fighting over a girl.
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They're not fighting because you don't fight.
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He's a lover. So all right, favorite 2 songs
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Riley or favorite songs Riley? What's your What's your favorite
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2 songs? So we're going to go right ahead
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and say that The Girl is Mine is underrated and should not be
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your least favorite, but should be one of your favorites, OK?
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No. Yes, it should be.
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It should be. I don't even care.
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It's funny. It has two powerful voices in it
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and like there's a like they're both being like really nice to
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this girl, which you don't see that often when people are like
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fighting over women. Both of them are like, she's the
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best woman I've ever met. She has to be mine.
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Like I have to be it. There's a part where they like
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start talking about this, which I just referenced, where they
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just like have this little bit. I'm a lover, not a fighter.
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And it's so funny that they're just like just so head over
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heels for this girl. I just think the premise of this
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song is so funny that both of them think they are like the
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only one for this girl. And I don't know.
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I think it is underrated. I understand why people wouldn't
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like it. It was just such a surprise on
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this album to me in a welcome way for me.
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I can see why it wouldn't be welcome for some people, but I
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think it's still an incredibly well put together song.
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Their voices work incredibly together.
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Like they both just fit the sound of the song so well, if
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that makes sense. I'm also.
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Soft voices. If you couldn't tell in the fact
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that I don't like John Lennon, I do like Paul McCarthy.
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I feel like if you dislike 1, you kind of like the other.
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You're biased. So so I don't know.
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It was just a surprise. I had never heard this song
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before either. So it was just such AI don't
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know. Welcome little surprise that I
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had very good. My other favorite song is one of
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the popular ones, but not the most popular one.
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It is it has to be Pyti think this song is so fun, like it
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gets caught in your head. You can hum it, you can like do
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a little shimmy to it. Like ever since the song plays,
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this is every time I listen to this album, this is the song
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that gets stuck in my head and I think it's impossible for it not
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to. It is so much fun.
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And again, shout out to Michael Jackson.
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It is a song about treating a girl right and saying that you
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need to. So there you go.
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I guess that's fun, but it's just a fun and I, this is coming
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from someone who is a lyric person, but it's just a fun, no
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thought song. It's just a groove song and
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there there's a time and place for that.
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And Michael Jackson did that perfectly in the song.
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I think this should have been the last song because of how
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strong it is. And with it not being like a
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story album, you really just want to finish it off strong.
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I think it's really sad that it was followed up with something
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like The Lady of My Life, but or really that it was sandwiched in
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between human nature and the lady in my life, however.
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Yeah. PYT stands strong and I think
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has to be my favorite for how much it's gotten stuck in my
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head the past two weeks. Yeah, so my favorites, I will
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piggyback on PYT. I'll play some different parts
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of it though, because it's again, good upbeat song and you
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know this I had to be an 80s term, if I remember correctly,
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but the word tenderoni and they're like that's funny, but
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the part where it gives the Na na Nas toward the end.
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So pretty there. The backup singers there are
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sisters, Janet and Latoya. So that's pretty neat to have a
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sisters as part of that. And evidently as I was doing
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research on it, Natalie, from Facts of Life.
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So anybody that's my age will know exactly who that is.
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Anybody your age will shake their head just like you are.
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And then there's also a toward the very end, a chipmunk voice
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there that's Michael Jackson singing, but pitched up with
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machines so that. How they do the album and
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chipmunks too. Yeah, so so I agree, PYT is a
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very good one, one of my favorites.
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My other favorite here or my favorite one off the album is.
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I was so glad you. So the intro like sounds like a
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battle alarm and then here in a couple seconds the drum beat
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kicks in with a high hat. So this is good.
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And then in a second we're going to have a guitar that kicks in
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and it's just there it is. So it's actually a song about
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like anti gang violence, you know, that you can walk away
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from the fight, you can beat it. The time the music video, I
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think he he actually went out and got members from Bloods and
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Crips, I believe are the 2 in LA as like part of the video to
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show that we can be nice to each other.
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Not I'm not sure how that, you know, played out because I don't
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really I mean, I remember the video just him and them all
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dancing around, but so. I feel like you also don't mess
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with Michael Jackson though. This is true.
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This is true the you get. The opportunity you behave.
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Yeah, the the other thing that's not about nice about this is I
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think it's about two 50s. Yeah, there is a very good in a
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pop song guitar solo that kicks up, so that's pretty nice and
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it's very good. And I guess this is just another
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one of those fusions of music that happened here with
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rock'n'roll and a driving hard beat smack in the middle of a
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pop album, you know? And make no doubt like this is a
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quintessential 80's pop album and and it kick starts with want
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to be starting something like that's a catchy little tune
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that'll get stuck in your head as well.
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But all right, so why is this album on our list?
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Why should people go listen to Thriller by Michael Jackson?
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Oh come on, like you need me to explain whatever.
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I need us to say go listen to this album.
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Come on guys. Like if you look up Thriller,
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the album everyone says this became the new album that all
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albums had to be compared to or all pop albums had to be
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compared to. It changed how people thought
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albums should be made. The whole point of the album was
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I read to be a thriller of an album.
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So just have like the best songs he could possibly put out all on
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one album that he could come up with.
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And that was, this was his attempt to do it.
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And you get, I mean seriously, you get 2 songs in the billions.
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But Thrillers come and close like other songs.
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And still the 100,000,000, like the only one who's not in
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100,000,000 is the lady in my life.
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And we already talked about that one.
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So like he succeeded. Talk about a stacked album like
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completely stacked in in so many ways.
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Want to be starting something even like baby be mine.
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I had heard that one thriller beat it, Billie Jean like PYT
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like this is just these are songs of everyone's culture at
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this point. Everyone knows these songs in
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one way or. The other and so many of these
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songs have been covered, have been sampled by all kinds of
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different genres. Like it's just it's just crazy
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the songs and the samples, you know that that it goes through,
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you know, it's the the best selling album of all time.
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Spent 37 non consecutive weeks at #1 on the charts.
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Spent 715 weeks. So do some fast math. 715 / 52
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That's that's how many years the album was on the charts.
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It was, it was there for that long.
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It was released what we say 1982 by 84.
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So in two years it had become the best selling album.
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So it only took two years to smash everything that that was
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or pass. I don't want to say smash pass
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everything that came before that and then kept selling because
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again, 52 and 52 is not 715. So it was still on the charts
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for many more years after the years, you know, after it became
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best selling, won 8 Grammys. Yeah.
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That is, that is still as far as I could tell, that is still a
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record for a one night grab of an album like.
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It he famously took off his sunglasses when he won his last
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one. Like from 1980?
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Two, I'm doing this for the girls.
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And then he took his sunglasses off.
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You know, like. That's cool.
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We we are 2026 that was 1982 again, like people let her go
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with math need to math that out. That's a lot of years that
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that's still a record so. Well, it's also no.
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We've had a lot of like, whether this is a hot take or not, I
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don't know. We've had a lot of good pop
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albums since. We've had a lot of good pop
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music eras since. I mean, like 80's pop is iconic.
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Early 2000's pop was also super iconic.
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Never in the way Michael Jackson was, specifically.
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Thriller is what did it. This album is what really
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cemented him as like this Hall of Famer.
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I mean, like I said, like people use this album as like quote UN
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quote, the archetype of what pop music and pop albums should be
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like. And then also not in not only
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that, but also with Thriller, the music video, music videos.
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This is like one of the first ones where the music video was
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like crucial, like equally as important as the music, which
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helped MTV some in itself into pop culture and made a lot of
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people start caring a lot more about music videos because was
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so iconic. It was a short film more than it
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was anything. It was a new way to show the art
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and also there's just a lot of interesting things.
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This before this album is when he started getting really
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introverted and kept to himself a lot.
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In between the last album and this one, he talked more about
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like loneliness, the like the impact of fame, which you read
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you can see in some of the songs with Billie Jean being about
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like someone claiming. Yeah.
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A fan claiming stuff. I can't remember the actual
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wording. You get what I'm saying?
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It's a fan claiming they had his child but but they never did.
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Yeah, And then want to be starting something even super
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catchy, fun song. It's a whole song about like,
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they'll like eat you, they'll have you on a plate and they'll
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eat you up. And like, all these people like
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looking at him and spreading rumors and lies and all this
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stuff, and you're just like dancing along to it.
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And and thrillers about zombies. And who doesn't love a good
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zombie? Yeah, well, I think that's also
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what this album, like unironically, I think this album
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is so good because, and I, I don't know how else to word it
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other than it knows its place is pop music, like pop music, It
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really isn't usually meant to have like this strong message.
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That's like, one of the joys of like typical pop music is that
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it's it's a little bit more freeing.
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You don't have to think about it as hard.
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It's more just to enjoy music and enjoy the experience.
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And I think this album, I, I said it has some points, but the
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majority of it is just a good pop album that you don't have to
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think that hard about. And I think that really it it
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knows exactly its place in music and it's a great place.
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Right. And I think it's, it's also neat
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because like you said, it's it's a pop album and and nobody's
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going to deny that, but like would beat it like that's that
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strong rock like, and it has some R&B in there.
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It has some funk, it has some disco, some soul, some of those
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undertones. But like you said, it's a pop
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album through and through that just makes you, you know, tap
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your toes and sing along and you know, sing loudly at that.
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The you know, you you mentioned the the video of Thriller.
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It became just how iconic it is. It became the first music video
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to be selected for the National Film Registry in 2009.
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So put out in 8283, whenever the video was actually released,
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took all those many years, all those many music videos until.
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2009 when this one was added, you know, the first one added as
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you know, part of that National Film Registry which is pretty
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cool. And then the other thing, it had
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7 singles released from the album.
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There are 9 total songs on the album, so seven of the like this
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is unheard of. Like 7 of them were released as
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singles and all seven of them went to the top 10 on the
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charts. Yeah.
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That's just crazy. So I think the only two that
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didn't get released as singles are Baby Be Mine and The Lady in
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My Life. Yep and all the rest were were
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released and all of them made it the top top 10.
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Yeah. Which is which is insane.
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Yeah, I think this also reading a little bit more about this,
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this was such a big, for lack of better words, middle finger to
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the industry. This album was because his
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previous album he did not win album in the year and felt that
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he had gotten snubbed and then also like.
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So then he comes back and and sets a record that still still
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hadn't been broken. Not only that, The Rolling
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Stones declined to run a cover story because black artists just
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don't get read as much. And so he was like, he there's a
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quote that says like, just wait, some days these magazines are
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going to be begging me for an interview and maybe I'll give
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them one and maybe I won't. And then he released this album,
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broke records, became like a a namesake forever more.
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But all of these things became like a Hall of Famer, musician
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like and character, and like just the biggest middle finger
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you could possibly give to an industry that was not giving him
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the credit he deserved. Yeah, true.
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All right, So best beats or before we move on any anything
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else on I mean, this one's a this one.
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It's kind of an obvious 1. So I don't know if we need to
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belabor of why people should go listen to it.
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You know, again, we've had a couple like this.
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You probably. Have if you if you don't go you,
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you definitely have heard some of these songs.
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Again, whether it's a cover by somebody else that you love or
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sampled in a in a song, listen to the original 1, you know, at
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least go at least go lease listen, at least go listen to
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beat it and Billie Jean. I mean, they're already each
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over a billion, you know, Billie Jean over 2 1/2 billion streams.
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So at least go listen to those two and then you know.
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Expand your. Robinsons and get some.
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Weird AL's covering. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Eat it and watch that because. That is.
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I don't know. True.
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Know if that would get by today, but that is a lovely summary of
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what the society was like back in the.
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Yeah, so best beat and bar. So Riley, what's What's your
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most favorite lyric from Thriller by Michael Jackson?
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So I don't I I don't know if I can I have two, but they're from
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the same song, so I think that's fair.
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So one they're both from want to be starting, 1 is when they.
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Turn it up a little bit. Oh, we'll figure this out as we
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go along. Yeah.
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Oh, OK, this part, it just has to go through the instrumentals
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first. We're waiting.
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So if you didn't hear, he references Billie Jean in this
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song too. This man had crazy beef with
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Billie Jean that he not only made a whole song complaining
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about her, he threw her in again to complain about her, which
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deservedly so. Which, from what I've gathered,
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Billie Jean is a fictitious character.
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Yes. It's it's made-up of all these
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various things that happened to him.
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But Billie Jean, as far as I can tell, isn't was no real person.
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Yes, but I'm I'm saying hated her as in like this collective
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idea of like. No, I get it.
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I just made her like the personified that, yeah.
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Version of all of his crazed fans that took it far all.
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All the groups. Yeah, so I really liked that,
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that specific part where he was referenced Billie Jean again and
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then goes back to his catchy part.
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But the lyrics, I'll read them if you couldn't hear them, was
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Billie Jean is always talking when nobody else is talking,
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telling lies and rubbing shoulders.
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So they call her mouth a motor, which is so funny.
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That's funny. What a great way to insult
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someone. But then the part where he
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explains it is someone's always trying to start my baby crying,
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talking, squealing spy and saying you just want to be
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starting something. So like this idea that like
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these people just kind of want this fame and are hurting people
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in his life just to start something and kind of talks
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about the unfair side of things. The and I just think that's
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that's for a pop album. Those are going to be some of
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the most like introspective, cool lyrics that you have while
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also just being really funny. The other favorite part, they
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are technically lyrics but. Mama say.
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Talk about get stuck in your head.
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So I looked it up. It is so there it is a different
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language, but it it's saying something along the lines of
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like I'm going to dance or keep dancing or like I could dance.
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And so like it's just this whole ending song.
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It's like. It makes sense.
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Woo party. He did actually get taken to
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court for it though because it that like that lyric and the way
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he sings it is from a song in that language.
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But he won. I, I don't know the full details
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of that, so don't take me on that.
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But I mean, that gets stuck in your head because it's also like
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the last minute of the song is just them saying Mama say Mama
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Makusa. And it's like, whoa, that's a
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lot. But then you kind of just keep
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singing it instead of getting annoyed by it.
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Which is that's true. It's like the first couple of
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times you're like, all right, this is going to quit.
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And then it keeps going and next thing you know, you're like
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snapping and beating and singing and singing it yourself.
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So like it. It's completely understandable.
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So my best beat is going to be the first 30 seconds really of
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Billie Jean. So drums and I hats, it started
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off. Now bass line kicks in and if
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you listen carefully, it's called a walking bass line
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because it goes up and down the same notes over and over again.
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Now there's a synthesizer that's about to kick in with that fast
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touch of a note staccato, you know, and it goes and, and, and
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then you start singing. So there's your 30 seconds.
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It gives an eerie feel to the song, just the way the notes are
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coming in and, and the baseline and all put together.
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And that matches the lyrics. Like we talked about, you know,
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a groupie that would claim they had a child of the singer when
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it really wasn't the child. And so you you the opening of
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that, which from from what I read, like Jackson fault to keep
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it in there because the producer, Quincy Jones was
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trying to take it out or change it a bit and shorten it and and
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he kept it in there to be 30 seconds and and it is fantastic
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sets the nature of that, that song.
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So that's my best beat. So again, 30 seconds, but keep
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listening to it. Become one of the 2.5 billion
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people that are streams that have done that.
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So here we go, ratings. Riley, what do you think of
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Thriller? Well, OK, objective.
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And and objectively. Well, let's get the objective
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out of the way. It's a 10.
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Yeah, I agree. That's what my objective is as
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well, one of the easiest things we've done.
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That's right. It became like what you compare
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almost every album to, and I keep saying that, but like, you
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have to understand how impressive it is to make an
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album that, like every album following is kind of like, yeah,
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but it's the same with Marvin Gaye, like, and what's going on
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every like album after. It's like, yeah, but like what's
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like it's still not what's going on.
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It's still not Thriller. Like we have yet to to hit that.
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That is crazy impressive. So I mean, and I think we've
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talked we've talked about some some albums just being very
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tight and channel Orange was an example of a very tight album.
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Like everything was to AT what the artist and producer wanted.
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And I think I think Thriller is almost exactly the same.
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It is a very tight technical album, even with it being fun.
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Like there's very little room for criticism even in the songs
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that weren't our favorite. They're objectively good songs
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still. Like it's hard to find criticism
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in them. So easiest, I mean, it's this
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this one. And I think what's going on
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might have been the easiest labels of what they were
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personally. You a 10.
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I would say, honestly, I will go as far as to say that this is a
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nine for me. I I can add like I added a lot
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of these songs to my playlist and I don't know if I would
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always want to listen to them. Yeah, But they're so fun when
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they do come on and you do listen to them.
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Like you just kind of remember, like, oh, that is a really good
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song. And I know I have to bite my
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words and admitting that I liked this album as much as I did
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because y'all don't know this. When he told me that his first
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cassette album, whatever it was, was a Thriller by Michael
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Jackson, I clowned on him and I clowned on him hard because it's
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a pop album and I, I do have to run that back.
32:18
I I do apologize for that. This is a, this is honestly, I
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will say this, this is probably the worst.
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I stand by that. Actually, this is the worst
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cassette first cassette, first album, first anything you could
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get because, like, how do you follow it up?
32:36
It's it's like fix you by Coldplay.
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Like you, you can't have that. And then immediately just be
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like, yeah, but I can also play all of these things.
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You have to. Like you started with what's
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considered one of the best albums of all time.
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Like, how do you like. Yeah.
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Build. From there you did with Pearl
32:53
Jam, though you found your best album.
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Right. And and and I think this was,
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again, this was my first one, but I was still finding my
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musical taste then It did. It did not stay pop.
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And I'll pop right into my. So you're giving it a nine.
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Yeah, that what you landed on. So I can return the clown
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because your rating is higher than mine.
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Mine is a 7. And it's, you know, I like these
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songs. You better explain yourself
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quick. Yeah, I like these songs, but
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again, I wouldn't go seek them out to listen to them.
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If they pop on the radio, I'd listen to it because it it has
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the nostalgia of of the 80s of being a young kid of, you know,
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popping in a cassette and listening to it and, you know,
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rewinding, missing where you went Fast forward, like all the
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stuff that took so long that that we're spoiled today and
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being able to do on Spotify and and, you know, streaming
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services. So that's that's neat to
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remember those, but I'm not going to seek out Billie Jean
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beat it thriller. I'm not PYT.
34:17
I'm not seeking those out to listen to him.
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So I did lowered a little bit for for that.
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But when I when I did listening to it, I was like, all right,
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this is this is good listening to music.
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So I wouldn't it wouldn't like a drag listening to it.
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So 7 and a 10 for me. So that is our ratings.
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Song of the Week is next, Riley. OK, I'm.
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So I'm hoping you give this a song of the week that I think
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you may give because I have not talked about it at all.
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So I have two and there are the two that I think you think I
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would give right now. Because if you did, if you don't
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give it like I'm going to have to make up and change mine.
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So go forth and prosper. Speaking of this is, I mean,
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come on. Yes.
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OK. This is this is the one and I
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never and I never mentioned it because I was about to.
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Best cover of all time. No one can fight me on that.
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No one can fight me on that. This is the best cover of all
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time. I mean, he's like, OK, I'm
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biased. I think Chris Cornell is one of
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the best vocalist of all time, so that's one thing.
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But to cover this song, slow it down and make it 10 times more
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haunting is like, it was so mind blowing the first time I
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listened to it. And because it's slower, you can
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actually like understand these lyrics and understand why like
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this kind of sound fits it so well.
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And he's just, he's he's like just absolutely like just, I
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mean, listen to his voice. It's so good.
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This is like the this is the Billie Jean that I listen to
36:45
because I like the smoke list. So it was nice listening to the
36:49
original Billie Jean too. But I am so glad I got a chance
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to talk about this. But I think anytime anyone
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listens to it, they're very impressed because it's just a
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complete reimagining of the song.
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If you listen to it you would not realize that it was the same
37:08
song until you randomly hear the word Billie Jean and you'd be
37:11
like there's only one song that mentions that name but gosh,
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great cover. Great cover but the other one is
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also not surprising. I don't know if anyone knows,
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I'm a bit of a Noah Khan fan and he just happened to release a
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new song and it's just, oh, I made them watch the music video.
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Speaking of music videos. Presented by MasterCard.
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Presented by MasterCard but. I am so be sure to watch our our
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our family friendly rating. Oh, I'm playing.
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The with the lyrics. Explicit version, don't worry.
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OK. So just a very sweet song about
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like losing contact with a very close childhood friend of yours
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or like long time friend that you just lost contact with every
38:18
time. Very tough message but very
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sweet and I think it's a great song.
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It makes me a lot more excited for the album coming out.
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I don't know how that was possible but just think it's a
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great song. Great single.
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Super excited for the album. Had to mention it too, had to
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give my opinion on it because I'm a Noah Con fan and I freaked
38:46
out about the song coming out. So very good.
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Those would be my 2 songs of the week.
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I think I've listened to both of them.
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Too. Too many times to count.
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Yeah, that, that Chris Cornell song, that's that version of
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that song is really, really good.
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He's also got a version of Thank You by Zeppelin, that being a
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Zeppelin fan, I really, really love that that version too.
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So. We'll have to throw in a Cornell
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episode at some point. I don't he's, I know he's not,
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not on our list anywhere, but yeah, we're two people that love
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Cornell as much as we do. And he's been in like what, 10
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bands and a solo career? We can find it out, but.
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Really, really, really good. I mean, so all right, so my
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favorite or song of the week is I know you know it just a
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haunting song to me. Still here in this bed and
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chinchilla from I hope that I am someone else in the morning.
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And so like it's chalk out lines and from 2021, you know, and and
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it's just a haunting song and and it starts slow and it and it
40:23
picks up a little bit, but really just a the song talking
40:32
about and and he's been pretty open about just a struggle with
40:36
a chronic disease from actually Lyme disease.
40:40
So your ticks and but push it back down with a new habit and
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and it's talking about just antidepressants can numb pain
40:53
and joy, like leaving you feeling hollow and just like a
40:59
Walking Dead as you're going through all this.
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And so this is really just a chalk out LON metaphor that that
41:09
people kind of come up with to say that people can be
41:14
physically present, but you know, mentally and emotionally
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absent. And so here's Chinchilla, just
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she's got such a great voice too.
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And so, you know, this is, it pops up, yeah, the harmonies
41:33
there, you know, pops up every once in a while as, as a song of
41:36
mine. And I'm like, oh man, this is
41:39
just such a such a good little, such a good little song.
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So that is my song of the week. Yeah, I don't know this song.
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Oh, lucky to hear that doesn't happen much.
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No it doesn't. It's pretty.
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Yeah, it's a beautiful song, you know, and, and again, lyrically,
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I think you would really like it if you went and watched or
42:11
watched, read the lyrics and knew his because I know you know
42:16
him as an artist and the, OR at least I think you do.
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I don't think I do. Dude, you would know the hey Ren
42:29
is probably his biggest one or high Ren and it it's the music
42:36
video is him sitting in really like an asylum where he's having
42:41
a conversation with himself back and forth.
42:44
Oh, that's almost like the hey, Nate, how's life?
42:48
I don't know. It's all right.
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So but so that's my song of the week, Ren and Chinchilla and
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chalk outlines. So go give that one a listen.
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So Next up All right, so now we're ready for our next album.
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But if you're watching on YouTube, you noticed a probably
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very awful transition because we don't edit very well there, and
43:17
a wardrobe change because we had a slight change of plans as we
43:21
looked at our calendar. So our next album is not what we
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originally intended, but it's now.
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Our next album is Synchronicity, which is not on our list.
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It is not but. But it is very exciting that
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it's, Oh yeah, by the police. I assumed everyone knows.
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But it's also very exciting that it's not on our list.
43:51
It was chosen by our good friends at 3 assorted crackers
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for us to listen to with them. So we've got that coming up A.
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Couple of times if you're a faithful listener.
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But yeah, so they invited us in and we did a couple episodes for
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them, one in their style and one in our style.
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And so we recorded synchronicity with them.
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They listened to it. So we'll get their feedback.
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But that is our next album release that's coming out and
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it'll be, I believe, March 13th. So give that album listen in the
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meantime. Yeah, go, go, go listen to that.
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We had a blast filming with them.
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We learned a lot about their opinions on music and on
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whiskey, so I'll leave that for you to interpret what you will.
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You can also listen to it if you want to hear me embarrass myself
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and make fun of really nice whiskey.
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Go listen to it. I embarrassed myself too much.
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You'll love it. Until next time I'm done and.
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I'm Riley, and this has been another episode of Barbara Katz.