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Summer Of 4ft. 2 (with AEW's Will Washington) · Four Finger Discount (Simpsons Podcast)

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  Does this mean you still want to be friends even though I tried to cover
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  Four finger discount dude, Welcome to fourfingto Discount of the podcast that's like you
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  know whatever. This week we hit through of You episode three f two two.
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  It is the finale of season seven. It's Summer of four foot two.
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  I am Dando and I am Guy and yes we are coming to you
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  live from Australia's crub Bucket and the Age Along and we are very lucky to
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  play because we've joined by a man who I've been falling for a very long
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  time in the wrestling podcast saying it's no sacred I'm a huge wrestling fan and
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  this man's without a doubt, one of the best. But now he's gonna
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  be keeping himself very busy as the new administration coordinator of all a Late Wrestling.
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  It's mister Will Washington. How are you doing so, I'm doing great.
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  It is so great to be here with you guys. I am so
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  excited to be We've been trying to plan this for a while and little things
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  have fallen through here and there. I think people will recall you tweeted about
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  summer four foot two like six weeks ago or something along those lines, and
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  we weren't able to make that happen. But we're here now, and yeah,
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  I don't find myself hosting many podcasts anymore, but I think there's always
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  going to be a spot in my heart for dusting off the old microphone and
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  getting to talk. Yes, well, it's lucky, as you're saying,
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  it's been sort of delayed delay. I think we're gonna do it originally like
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  early March or something, and then the big announcement a couple of days ago,
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  and I was like, this is a good timing. Yeah, but
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  you know, obviously the roles off fresh and new, so we can't talk
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  about you're all in aw what's going to mean entailing? But um, but
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  yeah, just congratulations might Well. Everyone in the wrestling world is so excited
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  for you. You're one of the good ones and you deserve it. Thank
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  you so much. It has been a whirlwind of emotions, and I will
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  say I was truly not expecting to receive an all lead graphic that even in
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  coming in for the job. I think I may have jokingly said it to
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  a few friends, like, hey, you know, Will Washington gets that
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  all league graphic and to actually see it and literally all my family's seen it.
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  I've had friends messaging me that have been like, hey, I just
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  saw on the front page of Reddit that I saw your face and it said
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  Will Washington is all even. Um No, it's it's a dream come true,
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  and I'm really excited to honestly work with my favorite wrestling company. It's
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  it's yeah, it's a rarity to honestly going into it. I said this
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  directly to Denise sal Sato of all people, but I said, it is
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  a one in a billion shot that you get to work on your favorite TV
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  show. And I mean, like, honestly, would be like, you
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  know, there's my other favorite TV shows, The Simpsons, right, it
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  would be like if all of a sudden I found myself in a in a
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  creative role helping the Simpsons be what I've envisioned it being. And to get
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  to do that for professional wrestling is just a really cool thing. Well,
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  Tony aw present, Tony kinds a very savy man, and obviously when you
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  put that all light graphic out, you know he knows that's going to explode
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  social media on the day for today, that he knows what he's doing.
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  Yes, of course, yeah, yeah, there's a there's some science to
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  that, and I'll leave it at that. Yes, yeah, But obviously
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  let's touch on for our listeners who may not know who you are, because
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  obviously, when I find with the wrestling world, when you're a wrestling fan,
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  you live in the wrestling bubble. But if you're not a wrestling fan,
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  people might not know who you are. So give us a brief rundown.
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  What Will Washington's been doing for the last eighteen years when it comes to
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  the podcasting scene. Yeah, so, you know, wrestling podcasts, I
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  hate to say it, are kind of a diamond done these days, and
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  so it feels weird to even say that I was one of the first wrestling
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  podcasters that you know, when you think about the idea that podcast have only
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  existed nineteen years and eighteen years ago, I had this crazy idea that these
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  things people are listening to right now, and most of them were about tech.
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  At the time, it was like maybe on occasion you'd find like a
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  news podcaster, but it was mostly, you know, dominated by the tech
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  sphere. And at the time, it was June of two thousand and five.
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  My idea was basically just to rip off what Leo Laporte was doing with
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  This Week in Tech and rip off his entire format and do that for professional
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  wrestling, and so I did it. That was what I did, and
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  I launched the show called Rocketbuster Radio at the time, and that show eventually
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  morphed into what became RBR Wrestling Talk, and I hosted that show for sixteen
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  years, interviewed pretty much a who's who of professional wrestlers and you know,
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  anybody from at Chris Jericho. On the show RVD, I had Batista while
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  he was world champion. That was whom I interviewed, Tyler Black, who
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  later became seth Rawlins, interviewed a lot of guys. We eventually had a
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  little joke that we have the we had the RBR rub that if somebody came
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  on our show, they would eventually get signed by WWE and then we'd end
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  up having a nice little origin story that we always point back to on the
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  podcast, so that was always a cool thing. And then eventually I ended
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  up leaving RBR to start grap City, and I ended up pitching grap City
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  to Fightful. In the process of doing that, I joined Ful. I
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  became one of the contributors to their news as well as a host of the
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  grab City podcast. I did Day after Dynamite with them, and then what
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  ended up becoming one of my highlights of the week, I ended up doing
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  a show with then South Sato as well, and we hosted After the Week,
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  and just wrestling, podcasting came second nature to me. I have been
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  able to break down and dissect and talk about this stuff for the last eighteen
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  years, and it's been I said recently that nothing has come easier to me
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  than that than podcasting. And it's not to say it's the only thing that
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  podcasted about, because wrestling has definitely been the primary thing. But I used
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  to host a movie review show about a decade ago called Now Playing Now,
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  and yeah, I've been around. I've been doing this a really really long
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  time. Honestly, well, I thought, you know, I've worked with
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  the hottest workingman and podcasting. But you're we're eating your dust of the mind
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  man. Yeah, I mean it's the drain, right. Obviously your dream
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  would have been to earn a living through podcasting about wrestling, but now you
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  dream. Now you've reached the dream of getting paid to just be a part
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  of the wrestling world. It's just it's incredible. Yeah, and you know
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  it's funny. Twelve hours prior to receiving the offer from AW, I'll say,
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  and I won't say from who, that I turned down. I did
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  receive an offer to do just that, to make podcasting full time and a
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  twelve hour And for about twelve hours I thought that that's what I was going
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  to be doing. And then twelve hours later I got another offer, and
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  I thought making a full time living off of doing podcasts sounded too good to
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  be true. And then all of a sudden, something jumps right over that.
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  You get the offer, and then Aw's like, old my beer,
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  I've got you. Yeah exactly. Oh woll wait, but here you said
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  Simpsons is your second favorite show besides wrestling, of course, whose wrestling is
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  a TV show? But like, what made you choose this episode summer of
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  four foot two? This one you spoke about specifically when you're thinking about Lasa
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  at the time, you said, when back in March you were talking a
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  little about Lisa, watch Summer of four foot two for you, um so
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  a little story about me. But before even working and wrestling. Covering wrestling,
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  I did a lot of travel. I traveled to every major pay per
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  view, and you know, I've been to wrestlemany, I've been to the
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  World Rumble. I've been to all of these shows. One of my go
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  to things is before I leave for any event, I will pick five or
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  six episodes of The Simpsons to watch on a flight. And so right as
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  we had done this one, right when you had approached me, I had
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  actually just watched Summer four foot two on a flight. And I don't remember
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  loving that one when I was younger. It wasn't one that really stuck out
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  to me. But watching it on a plane, I found myself tearing up
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  by the end, and I didn't realize how much heart this episode truly had.
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  And I know that Lisa episodes, for the most part, tend to
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  rub people the wrong way, and there's reasons for that, and there's valid
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  reasons for that, but this is one of those Lisa centric episodes that really
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  tugs at the strings and really makes you feel for somebody who has struggled to
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  find her place in the world, struggled to find her place in her world,
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  and and it's a great story of authenticity. And like I said,
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  just sitting on that plane and I'm sitting here and you know, person next
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  to me is like, you're literally crying watching the sentences. I'm like,
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  I know, like you don't understand. It's getting to me though, But
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  yeah, and so when you ask me, I had no hesitation. I
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  thought, no. Summer four foot two, this is an episode I really
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  want to talk about because it's it's got the gags right, Like, we
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  know the gags that make this episode as good as it is. You know
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  that everybody's talked about the Dud for years. We've seen we've seen a smiling
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  home or gift. There's so many different things from this episode that people remember.
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  But the heart is really what made me want talk about this. Yeah,
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  definitely. And that's what's great with The Simpsons is particular episodes like this
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  you enjoy it as a kid, when you grow up and become an adult
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  and become a father and things like that, and you reflect upon when you
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  were a kid, it's like, oh wow, it's like this is just
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  so much more relatable the older I get. It's like this one here,
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  in particular, Lisa's going through because you said that Lisa episodes, you know,
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  people tend to not not like them. They think she's annoying. But
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  in this one, as he says, she's going through something that many of
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  us go through when we're growing up. And I love the line where she
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  says being myself didn't work. Being someone else didn't work. Maybe it just
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  wasn't meant to have friends. And I think many of us have been in
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  that situation. Oh yeah, for sure. I think a lot of us
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  go through kind of that impastor syndrome, right where like we think that nobody
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  likes to realize and we've got to do something else for people. And yeah,
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  I've been there as a as an individual, I think everybody's been there.
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  And again, maybe I didn't like this episode of my youth because I
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  was still going through that and as an adult now getting to reflect on it
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  and see Lisa struggles with it and her ability to kind of find herself in
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  the end, it's it's a great story. It's funny. I mean every
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  particularly when you're a young person or a teenager. Yeah, every new social
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  situation, you think it sort of provides you with a chance to be a
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  blank slate, you know, and to reinvent yourself. But you can't really
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  do that. It's the old saying, no matter where you go, there
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  you are. But I mean even you know, the start of a new
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  school year as well, you think, Okay, I've had you know,
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  this amount of time to you know, I've changed. You know, I'm
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  coming back as the new guy Davis, all, the new Lisa Simpson or
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  whatever. But I don't know, You're just the accumulation of all the events
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  and attitudes and traits and whatever that make you who you are. You can
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  never really truly reinvent yourself. Yeah, I think this episode two it helps
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  you reflect on school holidays of the past, like some of a vacation for
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  you will, you know, making new friends that you probably were never going
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  to see again. That's what happened when you went on holidays of the family.
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  Because this is before social media. You know, now you can just
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  stay in touch. But did you have moments of your in your childhood where
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  you went on a holiday with family whatever, and you became friends of people
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  at the time that you felt like they're gonna be friends forever. But when
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  you left your life, you just lost touch. You never saw them again.
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  Yeah, you know, Um, I didn't really. We didn't take
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  vacations too often a kid because we had money. Yeah, we had no
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  money. My dad hated flying, same and so exactly the same. My
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  dad wouldn't get on the planet. And so for the most part, like
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  a vacation for us was like we're going to Grandma's house and we're going to
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  spend the summer Grandma's Yeah, and so like you know, those for the
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  most part, um, But I can see that though, because I do
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  remember times now that I'm thinking about it. In hindsight, We're like I
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  took like a summer karate class, and I made friends in that class.
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  You know, I thought it was you know, oh my god, we
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  vibe on this because we're all power Rangers fans who love martial arts because it's
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  the nineties. And then all of a sudden, I don't see that person
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  again, never see that person again, don't even remember their name, and
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  we moved on with life. But yeah, those summer friendships are definitely a
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  thing now that I think about it. Speaking to Power Rangers, So you
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  sold the new film as well. I enjoyed it. I'll watched it with
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  my son. He enjoyed it as well. Yeah, yeah, I So.
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  The funny thing is my son we had been counting down to the release
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  of it, my son and I, and it came out while he was
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  at school, and I was like, I'm just gonna watch this and then
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  pretend I've never seen it, and so I watched it by myself. It's
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  all the whole thing. Then he got home and the first thing he said,
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  I was dead. Can we watch Power Rangers now? I'm like,
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  yeah, son, I've never seen this before. And we sat down and
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  watched the whole thing, and by the end, it's it's one of those
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  things where like he's asking questions, but he's asking them in a way where
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  he doesn't think I know, And I'm like, oh, well, maybe
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  readA took over Alpha's body. I don't know why he's a robot. She
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  did look at that pot Rangers genius here, Yeah, Pow Rangers genius.
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  Yeah. When when I first come in the screen in their original suits.
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  My son, he's four, Tommy. Just guys, that's the old ones.
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  You're so excited. But I'm getting back to the Simpsons. So what
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  are you What are your earliest memories of the show, watching the show as
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  a kid, What are you some of your favorite memories watching it growing up?
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  I don't know. I know for a long time, um I had.
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  I can just remember the show being a part of my childhood forever,
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  right, Like I remember Butterfinger commercials and things along those lines. Like I
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  just remember bart being like this institution in pop culture and thinking that The Simpsons
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  was something that was can't miss. I remember those Thursday nights I had to
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  watch it, and you know, I remember to my brother, I used
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  to take the lyrics of the Lisa her teeth. They're big and greens.
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  I make fun of my brother and I go, Curtis, see they're big
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  and green. And that was like a thing always do. And yeah,
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  like Simpsons, I think, honestly, all through my childhood, especially shaped
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  my entire sense of humor. I think I at least five or six times
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  a day minimum, make a Simpsons reference and get disappointed when various people don't
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  understand what I'm referencing in my day to day life, but it's completely shaped
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  my upbringing. It shaped my just who I am. Like just thinking about
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  earliest memories, like I remember watching those early seasons, the like crudely drawn
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  first second season stuff and Doctor Marvil mon Row and like all of that stuff.
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  All of that I remember or seeing when it was new, And yeah,
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  it's just been an institution my whole life. I love that you said
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  that. Um, yeah, you know, you're in the presence of someone
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  cooler or someone who's on your frequency if you can drop a line and they'll
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  they'll pick down what you they'll pick up what you're putting down. I mean,
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  it's like a secret handshake in some way, an induction into the into
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  the cool club. Oh yeah, My My go to is where I will
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  grab a spoon and go you call that a kno. And then if they
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  look at me like I'm crazy, then I know, Okay, this isn't
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  somebody who's on my frequency. But if they turn around and go, that's
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  not a knife, that's a spoon, and then I go, so you've
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  played knifey spooney before and like that, that's how I know I have absolutely
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  gotten on the level of somebody that's that's my go to. I find it's
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  happening more and more now where people don't get Simpsons references because obviously we grew
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  up with the show, but the show has been going for so long that
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  there's an entire generation of people out there who didn't necessarily grow up with the
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  show. And it's just but that's just mind boggling to me. I know,
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  the Simpsons is life. Isn't it like what? I haven't ever seen
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  it? I'm like, what, Yeah, No, it is mind boggling
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  to me when somebody doesn't know the Simpsons. And I know I have many
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  people in my life who don't know the Simpsons. So yeah, well my
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  wife, my wife, she's you know, ten days younger than me.
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  She's seen less than ten episodes of The Simpsons in her life. Oh how
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  have you stayed married? She's an incredible lady. Trust me. I kid
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  my wife. Like the first time I showed her steamed hands and she didn't
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  laugh. I was so disappointed. I didn't even see a smile crack.
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  Then I just thought, what is this? Is this gonna work? It's
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  like I showed my wife because we do a South Park podcast as well,
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  and one of the latest episodes of South Park and I'm dying of laughter.
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  It's the Harry and Egan episode when they're taking off the Royals recently, and
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  obviously my wife's from the UK, so big on the Royals, and I
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  don't say anything bad about the Royals. I was like, it's just so
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  funny, you have to watch it. And she's watching it and she's just
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  not have been cracking a smile, and I'm like, what's going on here?
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  Like, how are you not on the floor laughing? I keep breaking
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  up. But the Simpsons, you think it would be kind of a I
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  can't miss proposition though, if you're showing you know, surely this is going
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  to appeal why you're not like, yeah, you're right. It's a good
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  topic to a good topic for a podcast obviously the Simpsons, because in my
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  world anyway, everyone likes the Simpsons or in some way, so everyone wants
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  to talk about the Simpsons. But but yeah, you're getting back to when
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  you first started your podcasting. It's funny how podcasts has become so saturated now.
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  When we started it out, there's only two other Simpsons podcasts. Now
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  it feels like there's two thousand. It's like, it's so hard to stand
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  out in the podcast where now, isn't it? Yeah? It is.
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  And I always tell people now and they ask me my advice of you know,
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  how do I stand out in the wrestling world? How do I stand
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  out with the wrestling podcast? And the thing my biggest piece of advice to
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  anybody is that I always say, you have to bring you right because at
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  the end of the day, another wrestling podcasts and have you And in the
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  same sense, the other Simpsons podcast don't have Dando and guy do they like
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  they don't have you guys? They and so I feel like at the end
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  of the day, that's how that's the thing you guys bring to the table
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  more than anything else. Was the thing I used to when we're first doing
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  the show to get a guy, and I was like, I'd cut out
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  the personal stories and then the sinens a guy. Now we want more of
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  that. We want to know more about you and my business. A Simpsons
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  showed like, yeah, the Simpsons is good, but we want to listen
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  to you talk about the Simpsons in your life. You know That's exactly.
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  Yeah, that's the biggest lesson I learned is that, you know, I
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  didn't want to be like a news breaking podcast, right because anybody can do
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  that. Too much negativity in that as well. Yeah, but on the
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  other side of that, and that's not to say that I'm not want to
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  believe that there's like anything particular really special about me. But it's just the
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  fact that it's me. That's what I'm selling here, That's what I'm offering
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  because that is the one thing I know I have to offer that nobody else
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  has to offer, is that it's only one me. Although I did recently
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  tell the story of how I got my new Twitter handle, and that was
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  via uh basically stalking somebody else named will Washington and getting him to give him
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  the Twitter handle and it was great and I have it now. Did you
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  also get his lunch money? Uh? No, he was really he was
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  kind. Did you hear this story at all? I haven't heard this episode
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  yet not. Yeah, all right, so yeah, I told it on
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  my last, the very last podcast it is. But uh, you know,
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  my Twitter handle at the moment is William rbr Um because I hosted rbr
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  forever. But like I I've wanted the Twitter account will Washington for years I've
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  been after that for a very very long time, and I always check in
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  on it, and whoever registered the account made like two tweets back in twenty
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  ten and then just walked away from the account. And then yeah, and
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  it just annoyed me. And I check in on it maybe like once a
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  month for the last like fourteen years, just like I just want this account.
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  And so I did some digging and I somehow found the owner of the
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  account. I found this person's email, and then the process of finding the
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  email, I also found a phone number. And I had gone and gotten
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  some advice on you know, how should I approach this person? Should I
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  send him an email? And so that's what I did. I send no.
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  So I started to type out an email basically just explaining where I'm at
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  in my career and how people who have been trying to tag me and stuff
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  constantly tag this account and I could really use the account that you're not using,
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  and that I'll even offer your compensation for it. And I started to
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  type all this out, and I thought, I wonder what this phone number
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  is, like is it a business? Because it was listed publicly, so
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  I was like, is it a business? Whatever? So I was like,
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  let me just call it and see what happens before I send this email.
• 22:10
  And I called it and a guy answers, this is Will and I'm
• 22:12
  like, oh crap, and I said, no, this is Will.
• 22:19
  Yeah. I was like, this guy sound really weird, but my name's
• 22:22
  also Will Washington, and uh, you're you have a Twitter account and he
• 22:29
  goes, I don't have a Twitter account and I was like, well that's
• 22:32
  the thing. You're like registered a Twitter account like fourteen years ago. And
• 22:36
  then like, I haven't really touched it, but your user name is Will
• 22:41
  Washington and I could really use it. And this was an older guy.
• 22:44
  He was probably sounded like he was about in his sixties, and he was
• 22:49
  like, oh, yeah, I'm never gonna use that if you want to
• 22:52
  take it. And I was like, oh my god, was this that
• 22:55
  easy? Yeah? I was like, the got money. I thought I
• 23:02
  could have called this guy like fourteen years ago and been fine. And he
• 23:08
  goes, yeah, if you want to take it. So I walked him
• 23:11
  through transferring the account to me, did not even transfering the account to transfer
• 23:15
  me the handle, and it took we were done with that call in less
• 23:19
  than five minutes. Wow. And the stars of us all aligning for you,
• 23:23
  isn't it right? And so Well's I was like, is there anything
• 23:27
  I could offer you? And he goes, I mean, if you want
• 23:30
  to, And so I paid him fifty bucks and uh, he goes,
• 23:36
  I just made fifty dollars for answering the phone. This has been the easiest
• 23:40
  fifty dollars I've ever made in my life for an account I was never going
• 23:42
  to use again. And U And on the other side of that, I
• 23:47
  got a Twitter handle I've been after for a long long time. So my
• 23:49
  account is I'm in possession of both right now, Will Washington is on my
• 23:53
  spare account. But by the time anybody hears this, I will probably have
• 23:57
  changed to will Washington as my main handle. How do you do that?
• 24:03
  Do you have to delete the original one so you can then create I'll make
• 24:06
  yours the new one. How does it work? Yeah? I have to
• 24:08
  basically change one to change, like change them at the same time. Yeah,
• 24:12
  And so I'll have two tabs open changing my Twitter handles and then that's
• 24:18
  it. Yeah, it's all just all working out for you. It's amazing.
• 24:21
  Everybody wins. Everybody wins, indeed. But let's get back to m
• 24:23
  to some of a four foot two. So I thought this episode here,
• 24:26
  it's quite sad though, in the sense that Lisa she makes these great friends,
• 24:30
  but going forward she just becomes that loser again, you know, like
• 24:33
  these these friends never reappear. I think that's a sad part of the story.
• 24:37
  Yeah, I guess I never really thought about that. But to be
• 24:42
  fair, the lesson we were supposed to get out of this was that Lisa
• 24:48
  was comfortable in her own skin going forward. It didn't really matter about the
• 24:53
  friends necessarily, as long as she was good just being Lisa. And I
• 24:59
  think as long as we came away with that and we eat, you know,
• 25:03
  she never really uh can I think of any other episodes where she went
• 25:07
  through a personality shift in the first season as moaning Lisa, where she made
• 25:11
  splitting gums and she's just she's just sad all the time. Remember that one,
• 25:15
  Yeah if you if, We'll be here for you, and she's just
• 25:17
  like, oh thanks, sim big Embryce in to kind like that's one of
• 25:18
  my favorite Lisa moments ever. Yeah, oh yeah, it's very good.
• 25:23
  But yeah, just thinking about how, you know, I think she took
• 25:26
  the lesson to heart. As a character that we never really see her again
• 25:30
  attempt to be someone she's not because we know that. I mean, that's
• 25:33
  not true. I guess she went to college and she um, she pretended
• 25:38
  to be a college student. So I take back everything I just said there
• 25:42
  now, but post like season ten continuity at the win, yeah, you
• 25:49
  know, not going please well oh yeah, because actually it's just funny you
• 25:55
  mentioned that, because you know, Principle on the Pauper is like one of
• 25:57
  the most hated up pisodes of the show, but it has some of the
• 26:03
  best gags. Like, there are so many good gags in that episode that
• 26:07
  it is almost worth how much it broke the continuity of the show to have
• 26:15
  Principal Skinner be arm in Tanzarian. The fact that we're now reviewing up to
• 26:18
  a season seventeen, I've mellowed a lot when it comes to continuity. I
• 26:22
  think they've just broken me down by reviewing these episodes. I mean I used
• 26:25
  to be I used to hate Principle in the Pauper. Actually, know what,
• 26:27
  when I first watched it, I was too young to care. I
• 26:30
  remember, I know, when, as you know, social media became a
• 26:33
  thing. I was like eighteen nineteen and one's like I asked the worst episode,
• 26:34
  but I remember being like ten when it came out, and I was
• 26:37
  like, it's fine, It's just it's just as soon as the episode.
• 26:40
  Why are you getting so angry about it? Yeah, And I was never
• 26:42
  one of those ones that hated either. But I'm probably about the same age
• 26:45
  body about thirty five now, yeah, okay, and I'm thirty five,
• 26:49
  so that's uh so Yeah, I remember when that episode hit, and again,
• 26:55
  there's many good gags in it that that was all I cared about at
• 26:57
  the time, was it made me laugh, you know those? Yeah,
• 27:00
  that's that has some of my favorite Ralph moments of uh you know Mishoover,
• 27:06
  which one is oral out of your mouth, Ralph Mishoover, which one is
• 27:12
  one like this? All of those are so good, uh and so yeah,
• 27:18
  and then Ralph, like Ralph makes that episode for me. Ralph and
• 27:23
  his uh his description of Principal Skinner at the at the assembly the celebration,
• 27:30
  Yeah, the celebration, that's what it was, at the celebration of Principal
• 27:33
  Skinner. Um. All of it's very very good. So yeah, sure,
• 27:38
  it completely shatters the idea of principal skinner being um, you know this
• 27:45
  uptight loser. Uh. And but on the other side of that, who
• 27:51
  cares? It's funny. Yeah, that's that's my one ant. Did it
• 27:53
  make me laugh? Sure? That's all. That's all that is. Now,
• 27:56
  that's the thing. I think. There's a very specific personality top the
• 28:00
  it's really bunched up, a bad continuity and that kind of thing. I
• 28:03
  mean to be fair, and I just took a job in a w and
• 28:06
  that's just all that continuity. Yeah. What else liked about this episode was
• 28:11
  that has the fantastic emotional core, but there's some great slapstick comedy in there
• 28:15
  as well, like we've mentioned obviously, like Homer and the Dude and things
• 28:18
  like that, but just Homer with the fireworks in the oven. That was
• 28:21
  like Pete comedy for me when I was a kid. I just thought that
• 28:22
  was hilarious. Beer. Yeah, Yeah, that's very very good. Dishwasher
• 28:26
  checks it in. Yeah, Yeah, that one's good. Um, there's
• 28:30
  some good references in it. Yeah, thinking about you know, Bart on
• 28:33
  the skateboard and you know, Bart was always seen as this cool product of
• 28:37
  the nineties, and there's certain references here where like what was it where she
• 28:41
  says, don't have a cow man and Marge just like, Bart, you
• 28:45
  haven't said that in years? And that was true, right, yes,
• 28:48
  Like that used to be on all the Simpsons merchandise for those early nineties,
• 28:52
  and all of a sudden, you know, here we hit the mid nineties
• 28:55
  and none of that was a part of Bart's character anymore. And so for
• 29:00
  March to actually reference that, hey, you haven't like used your catchphrases in
• 29:06
  forever, it's actually great stuff. I mean, it had been actually like
• 29:08
  four years since he said it to the episode, and that's why, Yeah,
• 29:11
  that's what she said that. But I also love marg is just seemingly
• 29:14
  disdained for the Flanders family because she was like are you And then just with
• 29:22
  that with what Ned and it obviously Ned's coming in with one of them.
• 29:29
  It was in this episode. Yeah, yeah, it was honestly a nice
• 29:33
  departure from who we've known March to be for her to suddenly have this annoyance
• 29:40
  and that was great stuff. Um. And then honestly, I think this
• 29:45
  is probably like peak Millhouse this specific episode. Uh has you know, we
• 29:52
  we already touched on the dud. Obviously that's that's overdone. But Millhouse just
• 29:56
  being dragged along on this trip, or a Navy dragon being the tag along
• 30:00
  on this trip is such a great gag at every single turn, just popping
• 30:06
  up. But one of my favorite lines was, no, they must have
• 30:08
  seen you so great, so great, But I thought, I thought they
• 30:17
  really sort of captured the vibe of just being on a summer vacation as well.
• 30:21
  Yeah, particularly because you know, there weren't many non Simpsons characters in
• 30:23
  this episode, just at the very start. We obviously had Millhouse there to
• 30:26
  sort of keep things sort of grounded a bit, but it was a new
• 30:30
  setting and apparently it was based on Kept cod That's where a lot of the
• 30:33
  writers for the show had they visited. That's where they based it on,
• 30:37
  and the house was the beach house particular, was based on the then Show
• 30:41
  Who runner Josh Weinstein's parents house in New Hampshire, which writers would visit all
• 30:45
  the time when they're doing like riding camps and things like that. They're going
• 30:48
  a trip and all sort of go there and pitch ideas for the next season,
• 30:51
  and that's where they's always played board games. That's where they got the
• 30:53
  Mystery Date board game idea as well, understandably, So that's a damn us
• 30:57
  beach house. It's a very nice beach house. Yeah, indeed, any
• 31:00
  more brain busters. Now we look to play a game here, Will,
• 31:04
  I thought, will we play it with Will? Will we not? And
• 31:07
  then I saw that the air date of this episode, and I thought,
• 31:08
  I can't pass this up. So what we do is we say the air
• 31:11
  date of this episode and guy here, guys had thirty plus years in in
• 31:15
  the film and TV reviewing industry, so he knows everything there is about film.
• 31:18
  But I say to him, what were the top three films at the
• 31:22
  US box office the week that this episode aired? Right? And I give
• 31:26
  him a clue. So you're like this it aired May nineteenth, nineteen ninety
• 31:30
  six. As a wrestling fan, you know what May nineteenth was? Right?
• 31:34
  We can't see that date. We can't. Yeah, no, you
• 31:37
  can't see that date. I mean I was a big Kane found as a
• 31:42
  kid growing up, but I was thought so May nineteenth, nineteen ninety six,
• 31:45
  ten years exactly before the release of See No Evil on Hunt two thousand
• 31:49
  and six. So the top three films. The cluef for number one is
• 31:55
  Disaster The Clufe number two is spy and the Klouef number three is mammal.
• 32:00
  I'll see if will can guess those first, and if not, the give
• 32:02
  guy crack so disaster film Spy and mammal disaster film Twister Twister. Yes,
• 32:09
  okay, you said spy. Yeah, it's not Golden Eye, is it.
• 32:15
  No, it's not good guess though, uh ninety six? Mission impossible?
• 32:20
  Correct? Well done? Yes, okay, And what was the third
• 32:23
  clue? Mammal mammal babe? No, no, no, not babe.
• 32:29
  More about the water, mammal of the water. Yeah, but ninety six,
• 32:36
  yes, in ninety six, I know that you're like the back of
• 32:39
  my hand, um, mammal of the water, so that my brain immediately
• 32:45
  goes to whale. Nope, no, little smoother, little friendlier. You
• 32:50
  think of trios of horror like ten or eleven or whatever, and they tried
• 32:52
  to kill all the springfield, these particular lovable things from the ocean. Okay,
• 32:57
  so we are talking dolphin, Yes, dolphin, the most famous dolphin
• 33:01
  of screen fame. I mean so Flipper, yeah, people was number three
• 33:08
  the US box office. Flipper movie. Yeah, yeah, I remember the
• 33:13
  Flipper movie. But what yeah, yeah, it's a Twister mission impossible,
• 33:17
  and Flipper the people who couldn't get into Twister or mission impossible, I had
• 33:22
  to go see Flipper. I don't remember Flipper doing that well, so that
• 33:27
  was I remember the movie. And that's why I wasn't thinking that, because
• 33:29
  like you were like Mammal of the Water and I'm thinking, well, Free
• 33:32
  Willie was ninety three. That came right, Yeah, like Free Willy two
• 33:36
  was street to VHS, so that couldn't be right. But I think that
• 33:39
  did come out in ninety six. But I don't remember Flipper being that successful,
• 33:43
  but I guess it was. Maybe it was the first opening weekend or
• 33:45
  something. Yeah, I could see that the world still had Paul Hogan fever
• 33:50
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• 34:34
  let's get into the room of the episode. So the original air day of
• 34:36
  Summer four for two May nineteenth, ninety ninety six, written by Dan Graeney,
• 34:38
  directed by Mark Kirkland, and the couch gag is the one where the
• 34:42
  couches a fax machine and the family come through on the piece of paper.
• 34:45
  Use three times in season seven that couch gag really yeah, yeah, I
• 34:50
  mean, and there are some repeats around that point. Yeah. And but
• 34:52
  in the same season you thought they would have sort of shaken it up a
• 34:54
  bit, right, Oh maybe, I mean, this was the last episode
• 34:58
  of the season, so I imagine, yeah, as you're wrapping up the
• 35:00
  season is if there was ever a time to repeat one at the very end,
• 35:05
  it's probably it. And this was when it comes to finalogy. This
• 35:07
  was a great one to go out with, wasn't it. This feels like
• 35:09
  a season finale, don't you reckon? Yeah, especially when you think about
• 35:14
  where the episode starts, right, it starts as we're ending the school here,
• 35:17
  and in this case, we're ending the season. And if you were
• 35:22
  ever to do a summer vacation type of EPO, excuse me, a summer
• 35:25
  vacation type of episode, I don't think there's a better opportunity to do it
• 35:30
  than at the very end of the season. Yay, Bart, Summer's almost
• 35:35
  here. Which kind of sprinkler do you like? The one that goes like
• 35:37
  this, Oh, the one that goes like this. Oh, hen,
• 35:47
  there's this one the last day of school, mill House trying to show some
• 35:54
  dignity. This is an iconic gift, this sprinklers icond of I'm gonna say,
• 36:01
  I am team Yeah, you gotta be. I wasn't a huge fan
• 36:07
  of this moment, but looking back now, I'm just like, it's just
• 36:08
  so Millhouse. This moment is I mean, everything about this moment is Millhouse.
• 36:13
  Like I said, Millhouse is. This is peak Millhouse in this episode.
• 36:19
  I mean, even in this opening scene, when you think about everything
• 36:22
  about this, well, yeah, the sprinkler stuff, and then what you're
• 36:25
  about to get into which was him running out of the classroom. Up your
• 36:31
  eyes, bubble, which is what you wanted to say to all your teach
• 36:37
  us when you were a kid. But but yeah, it was weird all
• 36:42
  waiting at the start with the ice cream trucks and everything, like what are
• 36:45
  they doing at the start of the school day? But it works for the
• 36:45
  gag, But Martin's tipped him off. Now we're in the yearbook office and
• 36:51
  it says on the door, immortalizing your awkward phase, and they're going through
• 36:53
  Retrospectacus, a great title for the book, and then she opens them up.
• 36:58
  I love the way and she slashed the top book. Because I used
• 37:00
  to work at a toy place well constantly opened up boxes, and those first
• 37:02
  few days I wrecked so many action figure boxes by cutting the top of the
• 37:06
  box with a Stanley knife, as opposed to just you know, because you're
• 37:09
  a big collector, you know, to open up the boxes properly. Oh
• 37:12
  yes, definitely that. And I worked retail, so it was one of
• 37:15
  those things where we knew not to do that. But and then we get
• 37:20
  a few friends here, like Beasy and the girl like the smell of benzine,
• 37:25
  so Lisa has friends that we've never met before. Who are these kids?
• 37:29
  Yeah, I mean I think they wanted to establish that there is a
• 37:32
  presence for Lisa that even in school, she doesn't necessarily find herself vibing with
• 37:39
  They do appear once more. They're not speaking role though. It's the episode
• 37:44
  The Old Man and the Lisa where she helps him do the recycling plant and
• 37:46
  they're part of the Junior Achievers Club. Just sitting down in the group there.
• 37:50
  I got to say, I related these kids very much. Look at
• 37:52
  a sub editor by trade, so layouts and fonts are I would be all
• 37:59
  over. There's like a what is your favorite font, mister Davis. Look,
• 38:02
  it's it's very straight up to say, yeah, hell Veedica. But
• 38:07
  look I'm a Calibri guy. If i'm if, I'm just writing it on
• 38:12
  every day. So yeah, Caulibri is my is my font of choice?
• 38:15
  Shall we say? Alrighty? So the school has now ended discussing the assassination
• 38:19
  of Lincoln. I just love the stain of teaching from Mishoover. She just
• 38:22
  never cares. But you can imagine this is what it would be like having
• 38:25
  to teach in Springfield. Oh yeah, Old Ralph, just you know,
• 38:30
  hanging on that you got this cliffhanger about the fate of Lincoln. Go home,
• 38:35
  Ralph. In the beginning of the school year, EGP received a colored
• 38:40
  ticket. I hope everyone still has theirs. You've joined me, you boss,
• 38:47
  mister Estes, the publications advisor. I educate the whole thing. If
• 38:52
  you end joining some other loser would app so quick milking it. Yeah,
• 39:00
  just episizing that nobody appreciates all of her efforts. She thinks she's doing a
• 39:02
  good thing, but no one seems to care. And then I thought it
• 39:05
  was really sad because when she says, can you sign my yearbook? And
• 39:07
  everyone's in a circle and they're passing it around, She's standing there so excited
• 39:10
  waiting to receive it. I can imagine how heartbroken you would have been opening
• 39:14
  up and getting nothing. But it's a good setup for the payoff at the
• 39:16
  end, though, isn't It's really well up? Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 39:19
  I think that moment really helps telegraph a little bit of you know,
• 39:24
  imprinting that moment in your brain and giving you the feeling of sadness of what
• 39:29
  Lisa's feeling in that moment. I think is really important to really play up
• 39:34
  how emotional the ending of the episode really is. But this episode is really
• 39:37
  really good at that whole setup payoff thing, not just in this overriding one,
• 39:42
  but even just in some of the gags. I mean this, You
• 39:45
  get to a bit in them in just a second where you know, but
• 39:49
  signing yearbooks, he's got the got the queue where he's giving off not personalized
• 39:52
  messages but just straight a bordographed but the girls saying, oh, he writes
• 39:57
  the way people talk. And then a little later on you've got the Flanders
• 40:00
  nowed like he actually wrote did. I thought it was fantastic, but my
• 40:06
  favorite of all this And I'm sorry I'm cutting ahead a little bit, but
• 40:08
  the whole buying all the traditionally embarrassing stuff at the James, I'm sorry,
• 40:15
  not the jam up the little value me yeah, yeah, and yeah,
• 40:17
  just a scene or two late with mine saying I don't know where you got
• 40:22
  planning for him up, but can me out I that joke missed me as
• 40:24
  a kid, and I watched it. I watched it several years ago.
• 40:27
  I was like, that is an awesome gay you missed it as a kid,
• 40:30
  and it just hits the Ball's eyes are grown up. So it's probably
• 40:37
  one of my favorite margin lines ever. It is so great. But but
• 40:40
  Lisa, she doesn't get it. Actually, I'm being the super nerd that
• 40:44
  I am. She opens up and it lists all of her achievements very very
• 40:46
  quick blink and you miss a gag. But I wrote out all the things
• 40:49
  that that she's achieved, so it's junior overachievement. Most hand raises in a
• 40:52
  semester seven hundred and sixty three, most popular student, sister spelling, beak
• 41:01
  spelling by Queen two, part of the camera club Head, shutter Bug,
• 41:06
  tidiest, lockup in brackets, unopposed, student you're most like to get,
• 41:12
  student you most like to copy off, and then bathroom timer as well as
• 41:15
  you mentioned. So yeah, there's so many hidden, hidden jokes in the
• 41:19
  Simpsons that when you're kid, obviously this is before you could freeze frame anything.
• 41:22
  It's just yeah, I love it. I love that they paid that
• 41:23
  much attention as almost like no ahead of their time. They knew at some
• 41:27
  point people are gonna be able to freeze frame this ship and enjoy it.
• 41:30
  Omer I'm in a rhubarb of a pickle of a jam here i was all
• 41:34
  set to go off on vacation when I get called up for jury duty.
• 41:37
  Oh, HiT's a carker of a case. Seems a man drove up onto
• 41:39
  a traffic allen and hit a decorative robot full of geraniums. Now they're trying
• 41:45
  it as a maritime offense. So any who, how'd you like to use
• 41:49
  my beach house free of charge? I only get two weeks of vacation a
• 41:52
  year, and you want me to spend it in your allergy beach out.
• 41:57
  Well, if it'll seal the deal, I'll take a look at your septic
• 42:01
  tank, see if I can get her humming again. She Flanders, You
• 42:05
  give a little, you get a little. Hello, mister brown Ground,
• 42:10
  what's your god for me? But I love that he's offering this like he's
• 42:15
  home is doing something for him, and Homer giving him the wind up during
• 42:20
  the jury journey story and he says, you know, he'll offer to take
• 42:23
  septic tank to seal the deal, and that's just horrific. Yeah, this
• 42:29
  is also like it's a very quick gag, but it is again just the
• 42:31
  epitome of Homer and ned Flanders and their relationship and Homer taking and taking and
• 42:37
  taking and Ned in this case, like but Homer making it an annoyance that
• 42:45
  he has to take from Ned in this case, and it's it's so great.
• 42:50
  But she much says he's sure the Flanders won't be there, so she
• 42:52
  agrees, but he's gonna invite mealhouse. Lisa, she says, invite some
• 42:54
  friends as well, but she doesn't have any. She's packing a suitcase.
• 42:59
  And this is an another great margin line, so she says, Gov down,
• 43:01
  and he's even even he's kissed more boys than I have girls, Lisa,
• 43:05
  boys kissing girls, like you can still do that line in twenty twenty
• 43:12
  three and still be funny, you know, because it's just so much man,
• 43:17
  because it's funny as apparent now apparent I've got a four yearld and a
• 43:20
  two year old. Sometimes, Aliott's like, you know, it's about wearing
• 43:23
  dressed, like girls wear dresses, not boys, And I'm like, how
• 43:27
  am I supposed to approach this? Now? I'm supposed to say it's okay
• 43:29
  for boys to wear dress, like like it's it's so new, and I'm
• 43:31
  just like, you know, you just wonderwear dude, don't give a ship.
• 43:34
  Yeah that's been yeah exactly, Yeah, no, because I haven't a
• 43:38
  those I don't know. I have an eleven year old, yeah, she's
• 43:42
  gone on twelve. I have my daughter will be twelve this year. My
• 43:45
  son will be nine in a month, and so yeah, you know those
• 43:51
  Yeah, those those topics come up quite a bit, and you know,
• 43:53
  it's obviously a very, very different approaching it would have been in the nineties.
• 43:58
  But again I agree with you that Marge's approach here in general, it's
• 44:04
  still it works in twenty twenty three because it fits who Marge is, just
• 44:08
  somebody who is wistfully unaware. I just love them though at nine it's just
• 44:15
  so savvy about the sex life of Gormada. But yes, so she decides
• 44:22
  she's not going to pack anything. It's very un Lisa. And then another
• 44:24
  payoffs shiho. She says, a microscope at the beach? What was I
• 44:28
  thinking? And then one of the lines that one of her friends writes in
• 44:30
  her book at the end is next time, bring your microscope, So it's
• 44:35
  another playoff there to that. Yeah, so yeah, they're all waiting in
• 44:37
  the car or before we actually get that, though, we get the nice
• 44:39
  moment between Marge and Lisa where she says you know, I always dreamed that
• 44:43
  my daughter would be my best friend, and she know we are best friends
• 44:45
  mom, But sometimes it's going to be a kid. And as a father
• 44:47
  again, I am dreading the day where I'm no longer cool to my kids.
• 44:52
  I mean, your kids are nine and nearly twelve. Have you had
• 44:54
  that moment yet where you're no longer like the best PoCA At the moment,
• 44:58
  my kid is my son just wants to hang out and play Possible with me
• 45:00
  old day every day. Or my son still wants me around and like you
• 45:06
  know, he's always asked me, he wants to play, he loves to
• 45:07
  wrestle, like that's our thing. My daughter, on the other hand,
• 45:09
  has definitely reached the point where she answers her cell phone and goes, yeah,
• 45:15
  my dad's around, I'll have to call you back, and so definitely
• 45:20
  there. Now they Simpsons, your kids, what did you have you sort
• 45:23
  of like falc upon them? Or is it just because I feel like the
• 45:25
  nine and a twelve year old they wouldn't have really grown up with the showing
• 45:29
  because now we don't we get to pick and choose what we want to watch
• 45:30
  when we watch it. Thanks to streaming, have they discovered the Simpsons or
• 45:34
  is it just through you? They've basically watched it through me because there's it's
• 45:38
  always on in the background. I can pick my My go to if I'm
• 45:43
  in a bad mood is if I can pick any episodes between about seasons three
• 45:47
  and season eight, I know I'm going to be very happy. I know
• 45:52
  that something's going to improve my mood, and I will spend the rest of
• 45:58
  the day okay, And so I do. I there will always be Simpsons
• 46:01
  on in the background, and so they know a lot of the gags.
• 46:04
  I think if I called my daughter in the room right now, and I'm
• 46:06
  not going to do that because past their bedtime, but she and I could
• 46:10
  probably do steamed hams back and forth because they've seen it that many times.
• 46:15
  Like if I said, and um, I'm skinner, we'll see more.
• 46:19
  I made it spite your directions, my daughter would know where to go.
• 46:22
  Superintendent Chalmers, welcome. I hope you were prepared for an unforgettable lunchon.
• 46:25
  It's been so mains now. I think it's impossible not to know every line
• 46:29
  of that episode right of that scene. Yeah, it's funny being yeah with
• 46:31
  them getting Luf you're discussing earlier with Simpsons quote set this use every day.
• 46:35
  I think it's just become a point where sometimes you're quoting something you even realize
• 46:37
  it's from the Simpsons. It's just becomes such a part of your life.
• 46:39
  But whatever my wife says, like Brendan, you're ready, I'm just gonna
• 46:42
  put my shoes on, just comes out. It's just my go to ye
• 46:45
  Oh, that's honestly, that's a genuine gag for me. And now that
• 46:50
  you mentioned that, that's the thing I actually do all the time where I'll
• 46:55
  be in my underwear and I'm like, all right, ready to go.
• 47:00
  He's got and whenever you part the car, you get out. All right.
• 47:04
  Remember we're in the itchy lot the way we're parked. Um. But
• 47:08
  yeah, so they're all waiting in the car. But Titans, Millhouse is
• 47:12
  straps. He's just like Bart's Millhouse's best friend. But like is Bart a
• 47:15
  good friend for Millhouse? Thoroughly abusive relationship, it really is. But Lisa,
• 47:23
  she's in packing light maybe just getting stronger. Well, I have been
• 47:25
  eating more. That is just no, that's an absolutely terrifying moment. I
• 47:31
  mean that whole the introduction of teen tween sas yes, when it's like,
• 47:36
  oh shit, they're on to me. They know I'm not cool, so
• 47:39
  they can start talking back to it was like, oh my god, you
• 47:43
  know it's all downhill from here. They always say good bye to Springfield and
• 47:45
  then everyone barts go out to his toothbrush and says bye bye, Lisa Simpson.
• 47:49
  Great set up for the rest of the episode. So we come back
• 47:52
  not on the way towag matdas squormwag Matters, squorm Setport or something on those
• 47:57
  lots. It's a long name, but it's based on the Cape Peninsula where
• 48:00
  Josh Weinstein's our parents' house was. As I said, they arrive at the
• 48:04
  house and I just love that Ned is just such a planner. All the
• 48:06
  posted notes, like the idea that he has driven down there in the interim
• 48:10
  to put these postss notes and driven back just so they so they have all
• 48:15
  these they know where everything is in the house. But yes, Homer taking
• 48:16
  the put food and me putting on his stomach is great, and fill me
• 48:20
  with water. Bart stealing Todd's piggy bank. Of course that's what he would
• 48:22
  do. And Lisa says that she forgot to pack and she's much like,
• 48:27
  that's not like you at all, she said exactly, And I was like,
• 48:29
  I forgot to pack two. But he improvised outside. The kids busted
• 48:34
  the very second he leaves the house. I am my favorite Homer for getting
• 48:37
  his clothes. Moment I think is when the woman from the Burless House arrives
• 48:43
  and she's like, are you wearing a grocery bag? I have misplaced my
• 48:46
  parents. Mom. I'm kind of trying to go for a different look this
• 48:52
  year. Okay, how about this adorable sun shot. It has a Starfisher
• 49:00
  and the Fanny and it comes with its peo, mom, come here,
• 49:05
  bring money. So where do you want to show off your new hip Pugs,
• 49:15
  the Sherbet Sharp, the Candle District, Big Shoe's tap Water Caffie.
• 49:20
  Um, if it's okay with you, mom, I'd rather go find some
• 49:22
  kids. Okay, you'll be my friend. I'm never never gonna let you
• 49:32
  get away. What do you think of the laser design? The new design?
• 49:36
  It's very nineties? Yeah, but of course you know when you think
• 49:38
  about like, as a matter of fact, Millhouse says it where says,
• 49:43
  wow, she looks like blossom, and you know that was obviously a popular
• 49:49
  part of Monday Nights in the nineties of people getting to watch their Blossom and
• 49:53
  Fresh prints back to back, and those were kind of fashion icons and so
• 50:00
  yeah, at the time, I remember thinking that Lisa did look cool.
• 50:02
  Well, Blossom and Fresh Prince back to back, Oh my god, what
• 50:06
  a double feature they used to come on back to back in the nineties.
• 50:08
  That was the Monday night lineup was you got the Fresh Prince of bel Air.
• 50:14
  I don't remember which came on first, but I remember they used to
• 50:15
  have commercials where both Blossom and Will Smith were um side by side and they
• 50:22
  say, hey, check out Blossom, follow up by the Fresh Prince of
• 50:24
  bel Air. That's awesome. So that's what America does, right, is
• 50:27
  like putting shows in blocks on TV. We don't do. We've never done
• 50:30
  that really in a show? Have we got must see TV? Yeah?
• 50:32
  And they both with the cool dance numbers? What were your favorite site comes
• 50:36
  up the nineties? Will? I mean, I'm a big Fresh Prince guy.
• 50:39
  I've seen every episode multiple times. H and I that's another one of
• 50:44
  my kind of go tos um. The saying that always gets shed on social
• 50:47
  media now is when his dad walks out again like that is just so powerful.
• 50:51
  Yeah, yeah, it's very powerful. I there's one specific episode of
• 50:55
  Married with Children I've seen so many times that again, and it is just
• 51:00
  I throw it on and it's oldies but young ins and it is the episode
• 51:05
  where Al can't remember the name of a song but he knows not even the
• 51:09
  melody. He knows about three pieces of it, and it's him and he's
• 51:15
  like going around it's being the whole episode asking people. He's like, hey,
• 51:20
  tell me if you know this song mm him and everybody's looking at him
• 51:24
  like he's crazy. And it turns out the song is Anna by the Beatles,
• 51:28
  and it's like go with right. But the thing is nobody knows what
• 51:34
  he's talking about this whole episode, and it gets funnier and funnier as the
• 51:37
  whole episode progresses, and he thinks he's going mad because he cannot remember him.
• 51:45
  That's one show that I want to revisit, his Married with Children,
• 51:46
  because obviously when I was in the nineties, I wasn't like to watch it
• 51:50
  was like, you know, too raunchy. But I mean, you have
• 51:52
  found on any streaming services. If I've got the whole collection on David Ay.
• 51:54
  I'm gonna bust it that one day and rewatch it because it's a show
• 51:57
  that I guarantee I'm going to enjoy a lot more. Is a growing up
• 52:00
  Yeah, probably, Yeah, I get the feeling. Back in the day,
• 52:01
  it was kind of like, oh, this is just that that gross
• 52:05
  show that sort of deals in an outrageous seam or of the I rewatched some
• 52:08
  clips recently. I'm like, Nail was kind of doing a masterclass in comedy
• 52:12
  acting here. He's really really good. I mean, Katie Skulls fantastic as
• 52:15
  well. On the rest of the cast, a solid that I'm like,
• 52:19
  holy, can't wait, was doing some really cool stuff here. He was
• 52:23
  so good and yeah, his timing was great, his insults were excellent.
• 52:29
  Just honestly, again, it's it's a show that doesn't hold up in a
• 52:34
  lot of ways. It is very of the time, but if you can
• 52:37
  put yourself in the time when watching it, it's it's it's very good.
• 52:42
  And it gave us the let's have sex, no peg and flushing the toilet.
• 52:51
  So at Leasta's now looking for friends. She's at the library. She's
• 52:52
  like, no, you can't go in there, and she says, these
• 52:54
  visions, which I always thought was just a really weird thing, seeing all
• 52:57
  these visions in the library with the had had it with a gun and everything
• 53:00
  like that, and people long stockings. So she races off and she goes
• 53:04
  to the pier. M I don't see any kids at all. It's like
• 53:08
  they ditched me in advance. So he goes like, I can totally aar.
• 53:15
  I'm going that only kids are that and coherent. So my mom tried
• 53:25
  to take me to some candle place, but I'm all like, no way,
• 53:31
  like you know whatever, like you you, oh whatever? Hey,
• 53:37
  what's that? Okay, okay, okay, not your fault. It's a
• 53:42
  bird ding. You don't control the birds. You will Sunday, but not
• 53:45
  now. Hi. So who's that? Oh? Some kids? Hey?
• 53:52
  I like your hat A compliment scanning for sarcasm. It's clean. Thanks you
• 54:04
  guys. Skate try to the cops always confiscate our boards. Yeah, and
• 54:08
  you just know they're using them. Like five minutes later, down at the
• 54:12
  station, I think I know a place you can skate that spiritually deserted,
• 54:19
  like you know whatever, horrible said. She takes into the library and this
• 54:25
  is where we get bot trying to be cool and but I was just a
• 54:29
  really shit brother in this episode. Wasn't he absolutely heightful this time around?
• 54:34
  But I think there's a payoff to that, and so obviously I think in
• 54:38
  order to get to the point that they needed to get to, Bart needed
• 54:43
  to be turned up just a couple of notches, because it really makes the
• 54:46
  payoff worth it, especially when you know Lisa has the honey ready to dump
• 54:52
  in his face. Yeah, of course that was just a great visual,
• 54:55
  just like she a little bit of squeeze at the end. But they also
• 54:58
  set it up well the stop where it's like, no but so popular that
• 55:00
  even the principal wants he's seen the chart, so he's used to be in
• 55:02
  the popular kid. He doesn't. He doesn't know how to accept the fact
• 55:06
  that how can Lisa be the popular one? That's me? But I'm just
• 55:08
  poor meal House getting thrown under the bus with the They must have seen you,
• 55:13
  neal House carrying down by the way, We would be remiss if we
• 55:16
  didn't shout out that. Erin is voiced Bygene's favorite Christina Richie Yes, star
• 55:23
  of Casper and various other movies. Nine which film which he did Casper,
• 55:28
  come out, let's test you will ninety five ninety five done slipped at me,
• 55:30
  like, what are you doing? Dando? Dude? Are you sort
• 55:36
  of like a nineties expert or just a film expert in general? I'm a
• 55:38
  Deed's expert. That's what I'm like to I based dates around how I remember
• 55:43
  anything. I'm like, so, what was I doing, Like the second
• 55:45
  week of No. Ninety five? I was doing this. It's funny because
• 55:46
  we're doing a trivia recently and wrestling Vanie'll get this, and I was like,
• 55:51
  what day of the week was, like January fourth, nineteen ninety nine.
• 55:54
  I'm like, hmm, I think I know this because this is the
• 55:57
  night that Mick Foley one of absolutely yeah, that's absolutely Monday. Yeah,
• 56:02
  in same with like, um My, My most famous story, uh that
• 56:07
  most of my podcast listeners know is that when somebody asks me what day did
• 56:14
  you lose your virginity? And I go, oh easy, it was January
• 56:16
  seventh, two thousand and two. So that was a night Triple H returned
• 56:19
  at Madison Court Garden, and I know that no matter what I was doing
• 56:25
  that day, I had to get home to watch it was. It was
• 56:31
  must say television. That one wasn't it? Yeah it was, But just
• 56:36
  what a great build up that head though, with the Beautiful Day and things
• 56:38
  like that beautiful day. Yeah, yeah, very very good. It's funny
• 56:42
  how like you hear song Nanders from Modulok a wrestling primary, Like if I
• 56:45
  hed my Way, it's like, well it's seventeen. That does happen.
• 56:51
  There's nothing else that that song belongs to. Yeah, it's even still like
• 56:54
  if I hear here without you buy three Doors Down, I'm like, oh
• 56:57
  man, Eddie Guerrero like that, that's uh wrestling. Once they get ahold
• 57:02
  of a song, you know, you there's two types of people in the
• 57:06
  world. If they here bring me to life by Evanescence, they'll either think
• 57:09
  of No Way Out two thousand and three, or they'll think of Daredevil.
• 57:13
  Um, yeah, dead Devil. That's right. And I did not think
• 57:15
  of dead Dad as much as I don't want to think of Dad. Devil
• 57:21
  making me think of Dad I am. I was saying to Nicola, it's
• 57:23
  funny how like, because I haven't watched w W in a very long time,
• 57:28
  but I can remember word for word promos from like the early two Like
• 57:30
  I can remember where for word the promo for the match between Cactus Jack and
• 57:35
  Triple h at the Royal Rumble two thousand. How can you forget that that
• 57:39
  is one of the best build up packages of all time? Yet our demands,
• 57:46
  why do we have to play this lazy old game? Because I was
• 57:49
  the only one in the house, opened the door for a mystery date,
• 57:55
  kept getting a football team. He's a dreambo. Don't wait to merge.
• 58:01
  Okay, but your turn, your turn? You got the dune. It
• 58:14
  looks just like your point, dexter. How come Lisa doesn't have to play?
• 58:19
  Why does she get to hang out with her friends? You got friends?
• 58:22
  You got the dud right here? Stand up for yourself, point exter.
• 58:25
  This visual heat of Homer the dud moment. It's become a thing.
• 58:30
  It's hilarious, but I'm like, I don't quite see the overall. I
• 58:34
  get it's funny, but it's like, is it that funny? I think
• 58:37
  I think the humor in it is from a ship postings as well. Yeah
• 58:45
  yeah, but I think more so like steamed hams, I think is just
• 58:47
  a genuinely funny written uh thing, whereas this was more of a why did
• 58:53
  they animate Homer like this and uh and entity of it and just running with
• 59:00
  it, and you're almost just it's a thing you're not even fully paying attention
• 59:05
  to because there's so much else happening. Right. You have you know,
• 59:08
  the laughing h ha haa, he got the dud, Like there's so much
• 59:12
  else happening, But then you have Homer just giving this really slow smile.
• 59:16
  And because people isolated that, it Ben became the thing that you've noticed now
• 59:22
  when you go look at it. I didn't notice this all and all the
• 59:27
  time I watched it until the internet really got ahold of it, and now
• 59:30
  I can't unsee it. I honestly think I was just distracted by just the
• 59:35
  absolute glee that the Julie Kepnert brings to that line, if You've got the
• 59:38
  Dud, I'm sorry that it's one of the best markets. Just so happy.
• 59:43
  But just the whole dynamic between between Harmer and Madge when they're playing that
• 59:49
  game is great. I mean, I love the they whole vibe this episode.
• 59:52
  I mean, just him, Oh, you got the football player,
• 59:54
  He's a dream boat. Don't wait up much. I think that's so sweet.
• 1:00:00
  Uh yeah, but you've got the data as well, and yeah,
• 1:00:01
  it took really until this episode that was like, oh, yeah, that
• 1:00:06
  is weird. Yeah, I just think it's it's funny that Millhouse has been
• 1:00:08
  become a punching bag for Homer as well. Stand up for yourself, pointdexter.
• 1:00:14
  But lease, it's now down the rock pool with all the c junk
• 1:00:16
  and she finds a Hemmet crab and she nearly let's slip here at her true
• 1:00:20
  self, you know, gift from my favorite crustacean. And she says that
• 1:00:22
  she heard that on Baywatch, which, um, I never watched Baywatch obviously
• 1:00:25
  it's too young for it. But look were you were ever a Baywatch fan.
• 1:00:30
  I wasn't a particular Baywatch fan. I was more so a fan of
• 1:00:35
  just in general daytime syndicated television or weekend syndicated television, I should say,
• 1:00:39
  because all of that stuff, Highlander and even Mortal Kombat Conquest, little things
• 1:00:45
  along those lines, like those shows that you watched in the middle of the
• 1:00:49
  afternoon that didn't have like the highest production value, like the reboot of Adam
• 1:00:53
  twelve, like stuff like that. I love those types of shows. I
• 1:00:57
  don't know. I liked Hercules and Zena. I was gonna says, yeah,
• 1:01:00
  yeah, and Baywatch fell along those lines where it was a show that
• 1:01:05
  I wouldn't go out of my way to watch as a kid. That's not
• 1:01:09
  true now that I think about it, because look, I was nine and
• 1:01:14
  it was like, I just want to get any type of glance at boobies
• 1:01:19
  I can, and then that was what bay Watch did for me. So
• 1:01:22
  that but like I I don't know, it wasn't a show that I was
• 1:01:27
  that I found engrossing. It wasn't a show I ever got into visually appealing,
• 1:01:31
  that's all it was. Yeah. So Himmer then arrived at Little Value
• 1:01:34
  Mount Mart, which is sort of like the only sort of Springfield esque reference
• 1:01:37
  we sort of getting the episode where it's just to take off of Quickie Mart.
• 1:01:39
  He wants to buy some fireworks, but yeah, just the pornomag,
• 1:01:42
  large box of condoms, bottle of old Harper, a couple of penis shields,
• 1:01:45
  some of the fireworks, and two disposable animals. Always like, better
• 1:01:49
  make it too Now, apparently this is a take off of American Graffiti.
• 1:01:52
  Gosh if it is, it's been a while since I watched American Graffiti,
• 1:01:54
  but I have to go back and check that out because it's a fantastic movie.
• 1:01:58
  But yeah, if it's a shot at well, it's one that's slipped
• 1:02:02
  me. Bind sort is that? So he takes him at the back and
• 1:02:05
  he orders himself an M three twenty. Obviously fireworks a band here will obviously,
• 1:02:09
  No, they're not banned in the states. You can just buy them
• 1:02:13
  wherever you want, Is that right? All know, there's a lot of
• 1:02:15
  places that they're band. They're banned here in Colorado, Okay, so just
• 1:02:17
  sight to state. Okay, Yeah, it's a state by state issue because
• 1:02:22
  Colorado is um notoriously dry, and so because of that, there's always somebody
• 1:02:30
  who I mean the very next state over. Fireworks are legal. So literally
• 1:02:34
  just drive one state and and it's only a two hour drive, and so
• 1:02:39
  you make that drive, you get the fireworks you want. But the problem
• 1:02:43
  is, at least multiple times a year, especially around the Fourth of July,
• 1:02:47
  somebody will set them off in a field in dry Colorado. The field
• 1:02:53
  catches fire, and then we have a massive issue here. And so just
• 1:02:59
  for the same of knowing that dry grass is more flammable, fireworks will probably
• 1:03:04
  never be illegal. Gee, I don't know what you've got planned for tonight,
• 1:03:07
  Homer, but count me out. That's just iconic. But Bart,
• 1:03:12
  he wants Bart to light his fireworks for him, but he's out of matches,
• 1:03:15
  so he tries to use the stove, and yeah, this is just
• 1:03:16
  this is another classic moment. This is I think he didn't Homer in this
• 1:03:20
  episode purely for the comedy, right, because he brings most of comedy in
• 1:03:22
  this episode, don't you think. But Millhouse and Homer. Yeah, definitely
• 1:03:25
  Milhouse and Homer. Millhouse for being the punching bag, and then Homer just
• 1:03:30
  for this year's stupidity. Yeah, but not stupidity to the point because we're
• 1:03:34
  like season seventeen, they really dumped Homer down by that point. But this
• 1:03:37
  is sort of like believable stupidity, you know. It's like, yeah,
• 1:03:39
  this is Homer thinking he's got the right idea and then something goes terribly wrong
• 1:03:45
  like lighting it on the stove and then accidentally lighting too much of the falling
• 1:03:52
  out of the fuse and then it falls off. Yeah, and then I
• 1:03:54
  love the cut to Marge mopping it up, mopping up the subtle payer and
• 1:04:01
  Aaron. He gives Lisa her first real friend ship bracelet, so she gives
• 1:04:05
  Aaron a cinema dental flush necklace with a shell that she found earlier, and
• 1:04:11
  is now looking through Millhouse's glasses. And we get here at Millhouse. I
• 1:04:13
  always thought this was Mealhouse about to get like screwed over. I thought,
• 1:04:15
  because this thing looks dangerous, but it's just a horseshoe crab, which aren't
• 1:04:19
  dangerous in any way. But when I was a kid, I thought,
• 1:04:21
  Okay, that thing's gonna bite him or something. They looked terrifying. Yeah,
• 1:04:26
  and I think the idea was, at least that it was supposed to,
• 1:04:30
  because yeah, I can't think of any other reason to really make that
• 1:04:33
  gag other than I guess it's just funny. But I think the idea that
• 1:04:39
  Millhouse was in some type of danger I think was supposed to be some of
• 1:04:44
  that visual gag, which is why I thought it was odd that those things
• 1:04:45
  apparently aren't dangerous in the slightest But anyway, but Lisa's now having the time
• 1:04:49
  of her life. They're throwing her up in the air. She's dizzy,
• 1:04:50
  she's nauseous, but she's popular and unfortunately, but then a Rise of the
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  yearbook and what I liked about this was they never hang shit on her.
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  That it's more confused or like what you'll teach his pet and she just thinks
• 1:05:00
  that they are instantly going to hate for it, so she runs off crying,
• 1:05:03
  but really she doesn't give him a chance to explain themselves. Also a
• 1:05:06
  great direction in that in that scene as well, just the about you know,
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  approaching more and more each time she's up, each time she's down.
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  Yeah. Yeah, it's just really good visuals on the part of the episode
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  the net eating breakfast, and this is the scene you mentioned earlier will where
• 1:05:19
  you know Bart's being or smug and Lisa's got the maple syrup and she looks
• 1:05:23
  terrifying here. Yeah, I mean you know this is you can see that
• 1:05:29
  this is the point where Lisa's realized she's got nothing and she'll never have anything.
• 1:05:33
  And uh mean, yeah, Bart has this smugness about him because he
• 1:05:40
  feels he's accomplished something. He showed Lisa that she'll never be as cool as
• 1:05:45
  him. And yeah this Lisa absolutely grabbing the honey and in Bart's face,
• 1:05:51
  Yeah, you ruin my life. You're nothing but me, not all of
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  it, very very good. Yeah, yeah great there and then of course,
• 1:06:01
  the best gag of it all is us completely forgetting them Millhouse. Oh
• 1:06:08
  boy, Carnival again. I think Millhouse added so much to this episode.
• 1:06:16
  Yeah, and I never appreciated that as a kid. But like I'm looking
• 1:06:19
  back in there for the review, I'm like, man, this episode without
• 1:06:21
  Millhouse is nowhere near it is funny. No, not so there. Now
• 1:06:28
  at the Carnival, they're spraying the water at the clouds in the spite of
• 1:06:30
  each other. Don't make me get the Connie. And then they on the
• 1:06:32
  what we called this ride the wrong with the spitting. That's called the gravitron
• 1:06:36
  here, what's it called in the States? Um, I don't know.
• 1:06:41
  I was just spitting so fast when the floor comes out, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:06:44
  because I know I have not been on one and way too sick of
• 1:06:47
  I went on that thing. Yeah, I know somebody died on one and
• 1:06:53
  because they like didn't they were too close to the center I guess when it
• 1:06:57
  started. And then it basically just like I am them back and so I
• 1:07:01
  know the only one we ever had was removed and never saw it again,
• 1:07:05
  and going I don't know where one even is. Now, what are your
• 1:07:11
  thoughts on just Carnival rise in general, because I wouldn't have a few when
• 1:07:14
  I was younger. But I'm like, I don't think I want my kids
• 1:07:15
  going and these things. I don't trust that guy that just put this in
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  together like two hours ago. Yeah, I don't know. I love carnival
• 1:07:24
  rides, I'll say that much like when they show up like that, that
• 1:07:27
  idea is something I agree with, like in the sense of scrolling social media
• 1:07:32
  and seeing them and I'm like, oh, those things look terrifying. And
• 1:07:34
  then carnival shows up locally and I'm like, let's go. Yeaha of the
• 1:07:42
  carnival in town. He gets here, kids, take whatever you want,
• 1:07:44
  did me Mimi mimiming, Yeah, exactly. I think if we're gonna go
• 1:07:48
  to somewhere like six Flags or whatever, you know, somewhere where it's like
• 1:07:51
  than this is what they do for a living on a day to day basis,
• 1:07:54
  you know, it's like this is going to be very professional, very
• 1:07:56
  safe, or that kind of thing. It's not like you're coloring inside the
• 1:07:59
  lines. You've got to ride an accountable that just pulled in the Town's like
• 1:08:02
  I'm kind of taking my life in my hands here, and that's the point.
• 1:08:04
  That's the thrill. Yeah, and I don't know, I just don't
• 1:08:08
  trust those things. But um but we're now it's about on the dodging cars
• 1:08:13
  and no need to bump. Enjoy the ride. But Bart smashes Lisa too
• 1:08:15
  hard and she falls out, nest falls in her hair, and this is
• 1:08:17
  where Bart realizes that he's gone a little bit too far, and she says,
• 1:08:20
  no, being myself didn't work. Being someone else didn't work. Maybe
• 1:08:23
  I'm just not meant to have friends. And she arrives home and you're meant
• 1:08:26
  to believe that they're pranking her because Lisa's going to freak out when she sees
• 1:08:29
  this, but it turns out they're just riding. Lisa rules in shells in
• 1:08:31
  the car, and um, yeah, I just a beautiful payoff to this
• 1:08:35
  story, isn't it. It's a beautiful payoff, and Lisa's reminded that they
• 1:08:42
  like her for who she is. You really feel for Lisa here, You
• 1:08:45
  really get this feel for it. Just it made me feel so good because
• 1:08:49
  you kind of go back to the moment of the reveal with the yearbook where
• 1:08:54
  they find out who Lisa really is, and you're right, there was a
• 1:08:58
  moment of confused. But to the viewer, we were supposed to be able
• 1:09:01
  to understanding that they didn't like Lisa anymore. So it's almost a payoff for
• 1:09:06
  you, the viewer as well, not just for Lisa, to get this
• 1:09:11
  sense of oh, they these are good kids and they liked Lisa all along
• 1:09:16
  that it's even said you can't fake the kind of person you are exactly right.
• 1:09:21
  And so they're on their way home before we get that, though,
• 1:09:24
  we get the great path sweet merciful crop, which I thought it was just
• 1:09:27
  amazing when I was a kid. That's a line I still used all the
• 1:09:30
  time. It's just so good. Yeah, and I'm the say girls were
• 1:09:31
  picking the shells off the car on the way home. But give the yearbook,
• 1:09:34
  he says, I'll show it to your friends again. And now they've
• 1:09:36
  all signed it, so the lines that they write, you made a hot
• 1:09:39
  summer very cool. I'll miss you, that's what Aaron says. Dean says,
• 1:09:43
  I like I like you. You know this is from Rick. Rick
• 1:09:46
  says without you summers a bummer, and Ben says, next time, bring
• 1:09:50
  your microscope, which I thought was a nice little path off too. She
• 1:09:53
  didn't want to bring the microscope, like what are you thinking? And it's
• 1:09:55
  just next time, bring it again, just reiterate and be yourself. And
• 1:09:58
  Millhouse signed it too. Whenever we used to have when all went in an
• 1:10:00
  office, you know, a farewell cap for someone quitting the job. I
• 1:10:03
  always did this in the corner, see you in the car, best wishes.
• 1:10:10
  It's just the go to for me. But behem and then says,
• 1:10:12
  take one last look at this beautiful scenery, throws the buzz cola can at
• 1:10:15
  the window, and then the crab uses it and that's the end of the
• 1:10:17
  episode. But yeah, what a what a fantastic twenty two minutes of television,
• 1:10:20
  As was fantastic twenty two minutes, And I'm glad I picked this one
• 1:10:25
  again. This was an episode that before this year I hadn't given much thought
• 1:10:30
  to, but just rewatching it on the plane and all of it hit me,
• 1:10:34
  especially having a daughter who's in middle school now and going through maybe what
• 1:10:39
  Lease is going through. Yeah, yeah, and you know, knowing how
• 1:10:44
  how much I watched her from time to time try to emulate kind of other
• 1:10:49
  kids and other things that she thinks other kids want her to be. And
• 1:10:54
  I always have to tell her just be yourself. But you know, I
• 1:10:56
  know it's going to take time for a pre teenager to see. But watching
• 1:11:01
  that now from the perspective of a parent and now knowing who Lisa, I'm
• 1:11:09
  there for you. I see what you're going through. But I promise you
• 1:11:12
  it's not as bad as you think. It's funny, we go back and
• 1:11:15
  revisit some episodes from the Golden era and like the episode where Skinet and could
• 1:11:18
  Bopple hook up for the first time. Another episode when I was a kid,
• 1:11:21
  I didn't really think much of, but as an adult, I'm like,
• 1:11:24
  this is just beautiful. Yeah, oh, it's so good. There's
• 1:11:28
  two adultso thought that had nothing and they find everything in each other. Yeah.
• 1:11:31
  Oh I love that episode so much, and for that very reason.
• 1:11:33
  Yeah, it's you know, when you think about how hopeless Edna's been,
• 1:11:40
  and I mean literally, you know, we just saw a few seasons prior
• 1:11:43
  with her and Woodrow, and then of course Seymour has been awfully pathetic the
• 1:11:48
  entire time. Yeah, these two find each other and it turns out they
• 1:11:51
  like making babies. That's the term also that I realize I've been using since
• 1:12:00
  I've seen that episode. That's very much how I've described sex and that's where
• 1:12:06
  that comes from. Guys. Just favorite line, just a bet of all
• 1:12:09
  time, is the baby looked at you? Yeah, Clancy is one takeaway
• 1:12:18
  from that whole thing baby looked deail here? All right, we've a couple
• 1:12:28
  of mail back questions here from our listeners. Well you have time for a
• 1:12:31
  couple of male bad questions? Sure at double denim, he says, where
• 1:12:34
  does this one rate for you? Guys? In the panteon of Simpsons vacation
• 1:12:38
  episodes and what else makes your list? Because I guess this is a Simpsons
• 1:12:42
  go to episode because you think of Simpsons go to episodes, you think of
• 1:12:45
  particular countries, but versus Australia when they go to England or Tokyo, Japan.
• 1:12:48
  I guess this is a go to one, like Simpsons vacation episode.
• 1:12:53
  Yeah, it's tougher because the vacation itself isn't necessarily a big part of the
• 1:13:00
  appeal of this episode. Like you we talked about Australia, right, Like
• 1:13:03
  that is obviously one of the best ones because of all of the gags that
• 1:13:09
  center around Australia. Yes, and same with like the City of New York
• 1:13:14
  for Summer Simpson, same deal right where it's very much about New York and
• 1:13:18
  that's what makes it so good. It's almost like parodying the location. So
• 1:13:23
  like this one doesn't rank highly as a vacation episode. It's a laser episode.
• 1:13:29
  Yeah, it's a leasa episode. I don't really consider this too much
• 1:13:31
  of a vacation episode. So low on the vacation scale because that's not a
• 1:13:35
  big part of the appeal of it, but high on the on the heart
• 1:13:40
  scale for sure. If someone said to you Lesa's Substitute or Summer four foot
• 1:13:45
  two, what are you going with, I'm going Summer four foot two?
• 1:13:47
  Same, Yeah, I'm not a Lesa's substitute. Yeah yeah, So it's
• 1:13:50
  give one safe. Both great episodes, but this one he comes from.
• 1:13:54
  Before you do that down I having said that, I mean, there is
• 1:13:57
  they really do now this kind of tone any upmarket coastal town kind of deal.
• 1:14:02
  I mean, just just the name of it, first of all,
• 1:14:04
  is very easy. You know, it's just a complete amalgam of all these
• 1:14:09
  these coast coastal places. But I was looking at them, the quaint little
• 1:14:14
  shops that they have, and that one's called term for the worst. There's
• 1:14:18
  the beach combat to the barbershop, but my favorite was the news standards called
• 1:14:23
  Gold Things Considered. I mean where we are if you go down, like
• 1:14:28
  to say, to a bow and heads erosion grove down the down the coast
• 1:14:30
  of Victoria. There are so many little places like that where you know their
• 1:14:34
  gift shops or you know you're just buy a whole lot of beige house accessories
• 1:14:40
  that I've got like a five percent markup. It's insane. Yeah, So
• 1:14:44
  that, yeah, I know it's a nice and aspect of this episode that
• 1:14:47
  it really nails that that part of the world. This Quesion, he comes
• 1:14:50
  from Adam Moorehouse. He says for Will in particular, he says, which
• 1:14:53
  aw wrestler would you love to give the catchphrase? Or who would be able
• 1:14:56
  to execute this correctly and use it efficiently? Sweet mess a full crap?
• 1:15:00
  Who uh okay? Who could which aw wrestler could say that and not make
• 1:15:06
  it come out comedic? No? See, I'd wanted to be comedic,
• 1:15:10
  but I wanted to be in a non comedic setting. So that way it
• 1:15:15
  comes it, the gravity of it is felt a little bit stronger. So
• 1:15:19
  uh, let me think about this for a second, uh because, like,
• 1:15:26
  I know who does comedy the best along those lines, But I wouldn't
• 1:15:30
  want it to be somebody who is commonly delivering comedy. You couldn't have MJFA,
• 1:15:36
  could you. Yeah, two corny for him. I think he's too
• 1:15:43
  much of a slick talker for that. Uhmmm. It's got to be somebody
• 1:15:48
  who you know, because it's got to happen when they've got a little bit
• 1:15:51
  of egg on their face. Maybe that was that was the person I was
• 1:15:56
  thinking when I said, somebody who's good at delivering comedy. Um, mirror
• 1:16:00
  mirrors might go to on that one. Yeah, that actually would be good.
• 1:16:03
  Yeah, hopefully when we see him again. But um, but one
• 1:16:10
  more question for you, This is the one we ask for everybody. We
• 1:16:12
  will let you go have have a nice sleep. I'm sure you're very,
• 1:16:14
  very tired after the last few days, but it's the question we ask everybody.
• 1:16:16
  It's it's nineteen ninety eight, so seasons one through nine I finished.
• 1:16:21
  You've been asked to put together a five episode Friday night Simpces marathon on Fox.
• 1:16:26
  What episodes are you choosing? Oh? Okay, so we're gonna throw
• 1:16:31
  in summer four foot two, we're gonna throw in, um March Being Not
• 1:16:36
  Proud, which I know I watched that one around Christmas every year. That
• 1:16:42
  is like one of my favorite moments. That's one of my favorite Simpsons endings
• 1:16:45
  ever. It's just beautiful. Yeah. But honestly, I mean, Dan
• 1:16:49
  Breker is such an amazing character. Fish. There's so many good gags in
• 1:16:59
  that one. That is the king misdirect character. I think he's so good.
• 1:17:05
  Um So, yeah, we'll say Marge being not Proud. We will
• 1:17:09
  say, uh, the Springfield Files. I love that as a sci fi
• 1:17:15
  fan. He can't post that one. It's so good. Yeah, that
• 1:17:18
  was very good. Uh so what I've said three so far? Yeah,
• 1:17:24
  maybe a Trios of Horror? Which tress of hard would you be putting in
• 1:17:26
  there? Oh? Um? Five? Yes, that's the best one,
• 1:17:30
  the Sitting Yeah, uh huh, yes, you've got the Shinning Uh So
• 1:17:34
  we'll say that Treehouse of Horror. And then one more because I've referenced it
• 1:17:39
  like five times in this episode. We'll say twenty two short films about Springfield.
• 1:17:42
  That's my favorite episode of all time. It's just gonna bit of everything.
• 1:17:45
  Yeah, I love the stories I have that incorporate as much of Springfield
• 1:17:47
  as possible, and that one just does it the first. I mean,
• 1:17:49
  that's the beauty of The Simpsons in general, right, is that I can't
• 1:17:54
  think of another show where there's so many characters that I care about. There's
• 1:17:59
  so many characters as I'm invested in. It is such a living, breathing
• 1:18:02
  universe of just people, and I haven't gotten that out of many other shows
• 1:18:09
  ever. Do you know? The idea for twenty two short films came from
• 1:18:13
  there, originally considering a spinoff show where it would be episodes based on side
• 1:18:16
  characters and like their life but like a spinoffs, like their life away from
• 1:18:19
  Springfield. How fun would that have been? That would have been fun.
• 1:18:24
  Also, by the way, I do go back to the on occasion,
• 1:18:30
  one of my favorite episodes is the one hundred and sixty eight. Yeah,
• 1:18:36
  but part of that is there's one deleted scene that I love so much that
• 1:18:42
  I can't believe didn't make it into that Treehouse of Horror. But specifically it's
• 1:18:47
  where they recruit Lionel huts and oh that's okay, the box is empty.
• 1:18:53
  I love that line so much, and I hate that that's like not actually
• 1:18:57
  in the episode. You know, It's funny is we're seeing that episode so
• 1:18:59
  many times, the one hundred and thirty eight episodes, but tact of that,
• 1:19:01
  like when you watch that Trees of Horror, you just think it's coming,
• 1:19:03
  but it's not. It's like, yeah, it's like it's what that's
• 1:19:06
  so that's not what happens? What what? Yeah, that's exactly how I
• 1:19:10
  feel about it. Seem the same page there, and the same with them
• 1:19:13
  with the Shinning, Like I don't think there's any Simpsons fans out there.
• 1:19:15
  They're called the Shining, the shining. It's the shinning. No, it's
• 1:19:17
  a shinning. It's just part of our life. But anyway, well,
• 1:19:19
  well, thank you so much for Johnny today. It's been absolute pleasure to
• 1:19:23
  art to talk to you, and congratulations with your new role in a W
• 1:19:26
  and all the best with everything going forward. Thank you for having me.
• 1:19:28
  I appreciate it.