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Patriots Unfiltered 7/6: Recent Contract Extensions, Salary Cap Update, Late Offseason Free Agent Targets · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 2: The world's a pigeon Podkay, Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 3: Paul, you might not like this, but the nerds level,
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  Speaker 3: some of the nerds level.
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  Speaker 4: Not being discriminatory against the nerds them all. I grew
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  Speaker 4: up in New England, and unlike you young folks, I
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  Speaker 4: didn't grow up with nothing.
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  Speaker 3: But championships five years of my left.
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  Speaker 2: Or the ten d's in the commons.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the slaps you guys are doing there.
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  Speaker 3: You know, as an undersized Caucasian man, I I thought, oh, well,
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  Speaker 3: Wes Welcome made it in the NFL, why can't I. Stupidly,
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  Speaker 3: very stupidly, I really felt like if I worked as
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  Speaker 3: hard as he did and I could do it, I
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  Speaker 3: truly believe that that, like, oh, there's a path for me.
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  Speaker 3: Like I look at this just so.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we are revisiting this when this is Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 2: You're right, Paul, we already visited. Boy. You guys had
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  Speaker 2: a good time while I was away, huh and Deuce
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  Speaker 2: was away?
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  Speaker 3: It's true.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the static? I'm here all right, what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to right off the bat, right off the bat?
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  Speaker 6: I broke it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Is that so much of a Hawaiian influence?
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  Speaker 2: All right, well it is Thursday here at Jillette Stadium.
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  Speaker 4: No, Evan and I held down the fort just uh,
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  Speaker 4: just fine. We did.
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  Speaker 2: Probably me.
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  Speaker 6: No one did that. Yeah, no one knocked us off there.
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  Speaker 6: I think we lost it.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I think it is Fred's mike because I
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  Speaker 4: don't hear the static anymore. Can you guys hear me?
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  Speaker 2: Now?
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  Speaker 6: I'll hear you good?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so what you do without friend, just.
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  Speaker 4: Keep moving that around. It doesn't really affect any warning
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  Speaker 4: population whatsoever.
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  Speaker 3: Thirty seconds in there?
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  Speaker 2: Can you hear me? Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: Okay, all right, now we're good.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Hey, yeah, here we are.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on with these connections?
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  Speaker 6: It's much better now?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, now the show is rusty without us?
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  Speaker 4: All right? Little better news?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, when he got that, we got got in your lock? Right?
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  Speaker 2: What news? It's Deuce Evan, Paul myself, Matt. What's happened
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  Speaker 2: when you were away?
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  Speaker 6: Eric?
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  Speaker 2: What's the news? What's the news?
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  Speaker 6: They resigned you on?
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  Speaker 4: Bentley?
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  Speaker 3: Hadn't that happens you guys talk about catch twenty Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we talked about it happened during catch twenty two.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, do you catch twenty two today?
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  Speaker 6: Or is that vacation?
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  Speaker 2: No, vacation doesn't vacations.
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  Speaker 7: He golfs, but he does a vacate.
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  Speaker 2: Wait.
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  Speaker 6: So, Evan, you know I got a comment on the
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  Speaker 6: on your thing though.
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  Speaker 7: Because you said like you were How did you put it?
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  Speaker 7: You were I don't want to say short, but what
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  Speaker 7: was the word you use for short? You're on your
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  Speaker 7: undersize understand size, but it's like, you know, but Wes
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  Speaker 7: Welker's undersized, but he was overly athletic.
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  Speaker 4: Athletic?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, is that what you're trying to say? Deuce you
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  Speaker 3: guys have fun?
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  Speaker 4: Are you?
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  Speaker 6: Were you overly athletic?
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  Speaker 4: Though? That was the question?
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  Speaker 2: Listen, I I like overly analytic, like I said last.
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  Speaker 3: Week there, I was not going to sit there and
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  Speaker 3: compare myself to I don't know Randy Moss, Like, why
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  Speaker 3: would I do that? I had one one guy that
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  Speaker 3: that looked a little bit like me and had a
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  Speaker 3: path possible, and that was obviously Wes Welker, So I
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  Speaker 3: would rock the eighty three West Welker Jersey all the
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  Speaker 3: time to games, you.
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  Speaker 6: Got like the real size and it looked perfectly normal.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, exactly like I filled it out perfectly just
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  Speaker 3: like he did. I had to say it was tightening
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  Speaker 3: around that you.
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  Speaker 2: Played Division one high I did the same thing.
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  Speaker 6: I was just gonna play.
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  Speaker 2: Division one baseball. Did you ever have any pro aspirations?
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  Speaker 6: Well, that's I was just gonna say.
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  Speaker 7: And like, I mean, yeah, I played college hockey, but
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  Speaker 7: I was never close to playing NHL. But my whole
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  Speaker 7: thought was, and it was not that much different than
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  Speaker 7: what Evan's saying, because at my time when I was
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  Speaker 7: playing hockey in high school, anybody who was six foot
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  Speaker 7: four two hundred and fifteen pounds, as we're getting drafted,
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  Speaker 7: like hal Gil had a pretty good NHL career.
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  Speaker 4: He's not playing in NHL now.
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  Speaker 6: But that was my whole thing.
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  Speaker 7: I'm like, oh, if I was just six ' four,
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  Speaker 7: I would get drafted. Meanwhile, I'm making the same mistake Evan.
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  Speaker 7: It's like, you know, you actually have to be talented.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't really like I was bigger than Rayborn.
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  Speaker 4: Fairness to you, hal Gil was a shoemaker.
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  Speaker 7: He was terrible, and I think I said before he
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  Speaker 7: lit me up in Summer League one time, I thought
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  Speaker 7: I broke my job because he's so big, like his
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  Speaker 7: elbow was just right into your face.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm with you.
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  Speaker 3: I guess listen, I was, you know, I think two
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  Speaker 3: thousand and seven. I was probably thirteen or fourteen, so
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  Speaker 3: I was still a kid, like I didn't know, you know,
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  Speaker 3: what the difference was. And I really thought that I
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  Speaker 3: mentioned in basketball the guy was JJ Riddick, Like I
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  Speaker 3: was like, oh, here's like a six foot two sharpshooter,
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  Speaker 3: really can't dunk, like, isn't super athletic, but he shoots
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  Speaker 3: like forty five percent from three. So if I just
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  Speaker 3: get really good at shooting from the you know.
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  Speaker 7: I know exactly what routes to run every time, Like,
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  Speaker 7: even if it's at a snail's pace, you're probably gonna know.
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  Speaker 3: No, that's no, it didn't work out.
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  Speaker 2: He looks to say, I just have to say. NFL
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  Speaker 2: Network right now has a feature on Larry Zanka and he's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, in a in a river with waiters fishing
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  Speaker 2: for looks like steel nose, uh no, steel nose salmon
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  Speaker 2: or whatever with a spinning reel, just like, come on,
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  Speaker 2: you've got to be using a fly rod fishing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Oh it's not a weak time, big time, big time.
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  Speaker 3: I just learned something I.
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  Speaker 2: Just can't you know, I want to learn more about fishing.
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  Speaker 2: You might as well just set grenades off and wait
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  Speaker 2: for the dead fish to float up.
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  Speaker 4: You know? Does that I don't. I don't know fishing.
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  Speaker 4: Does that mean it's too easy to do it?
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  Speaker 6: Easy?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I didn't get it untitally the grenades.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like if you if you're fishing for bass, okay,
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  Speaker 2: you know, but if you're if you go, if you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna have outfit yourself and the waiters and all this
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  Speaker 2: stuff and stand in the river, you.
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  Speaker 4: Can fish like a man.
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  Speaker 2: You hat a fly ride, right, You would know. Ted
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  Speaker 2: Williams would tell you the same.
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  Speaker 6: I mean my grandfather would know. I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: I'd love to try to fit fly fish. So that's
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  Speaker 7: probably my life elements that I'd like to.
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  Speaker 2: When you're fly fishing, that's all you're thinking about. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because you.
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  Speaker 7: Have to, because you have to watch the water nowhere,
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  Speaker 7: and you got to make it kind of dance.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit. You're constantly doing something. It's not like
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  Speaker 2: you just sit and fish.
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  Speaker 7: Your sounds a lot better than just I mean, both
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  Speaker 7: have their merits.
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  Speaker 3: But quiet time, time in the water, it's great.
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  Speaker 2: It's great. Anyway, Sorry about that Larry's ankle. Well, I'm
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  Speaker 2: staring right at it.
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  Speaker 6: Well, they were they are the only undefeated team so
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  Speaker 6: and I don't know if you've ever seen it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you've ever seen any features on that,
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  Speaker 4: but I think that's what this this is on NFL
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  Speaker 4: network is just the old NFL network. I did get
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  Speaker 4: a chance before, Like last week during the fourth of July,
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  Speaker 4: there was like a whole day of Patriots programming. We
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  Speaker 4: had talked to about that too, when you guys were gone.
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  Speaker 4: So they had all kinds of stuff. They had America's games,
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  Speaker 4: they had you know, replays of games or your jobs.
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  Speaker 6: But this week they look like.
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  Speaker 4: They're showing some memorable Week one games just random. I
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  Speaker 4: watched like a Dallas Washington game from ninety nine. But
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  Speaker 4: you know what I got last night? You know what
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  Speaker 4: I got last night, dude?
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  Speaker 6: Which one? Which one? Nineteen ninety four we won Dan Marino.
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  Speaker 4: Marino Bledsoe shootout thirty nine, thirty five loss for the Patriots.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, today it was the day that I knew
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  Speaker 4: that Drew was.
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  Speaker 3: Now that was your two.
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  Speaker 4: It was week one of his second year, and if
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  Speaker 4: not for kind of a fluky Ben Cots fumble, they
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  Speaker 4: were going in to take the lead in the last
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  Speaker 4: two minutes, just.
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  Speaker 3: Like Nelson Aguilargins the Ravens last year.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean you talk about it was kind of
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  Speaker 4: similar to that fumble. Actually, right the other sideline.
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  Speaker 7: Don't you feel like that's the game Mac Jones is
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  Speaker 7: still looking for. That's the game of Like, yeah, it
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  Speaker 7: kind of goes toe to toe with a guy, and
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  Speaker 7: you know, even if it's a quarterback.
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  Speaker 6: Q I was just going down the stown, you know.
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  Speaker 2: But no, but it's a good point. I think we
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  Speaker 2: are still looking for that game from Mac.
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  Speaker 6: And in fairness, Drew lost.
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  Speaker 7: No, No, but but even in right, like I mean,
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  Speaker 7: but he showed he threw for four hundred yards and
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  Speaker 7: four touchdowns.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he could go toe to toe with the passer
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  Speaker 2: in his time, yeah, Marino, you know.
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  Speaker 6: And and how was the connection with Ben Coates right
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  Speaker 6: out of the gate though?
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  Speaker 7: Was that something that was instant or was that something
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  Speaker 7: that came on in the second.
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  Speaker 4: No, like I think his first yeah, his first career
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  Speaker 4: touchdown pass was to Ben Coates. Yeah, in ninety three,
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  Speaker 4: Week one ninety three at Buffalo.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of man, what do we make of this picture
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  Speaker 2: of him Brady and mccordy.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't see it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh really they are?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, what's the picture?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know. I'm having problems at the White Party?
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  Speaker 2: Was at.
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  Speaker 3: Was back at the White Party.
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  Speaker 4: This was a separate but Williams was at the White
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  Speaker 4: Party and then he got traded like two days later.
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  Speaker 6: Everybody he was at the White Party. I'm looking at it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Grant Williams was attic event here with Jason Tatum
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  Speaker 3: last week.
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  Speaker 2: So Ruben probably.
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  Speaker 6: Come with Jason if you want.
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  Speaker 7: Did Alex is not how that works? Did Alex stock
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  Speaker 7: Jason Tatum while he was here for that?
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  Speaker 3: We did have a conversation about that. I was a
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  Speaker 3: little upset that I wasn't given the invitation to come
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  Speaker 3: and meet Jason Tatum in the line of little kids
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  Speaker 3: like you take pictures with him.
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  Speaker 4: We were talking it's like kid, everybody's talking about that
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  Speaker 4: was like, what are you guys talking about? You know,
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  Speaker 4: like it was a huge event, Like for what like
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  Speaker 4: I mean not that I have to be like made
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  Speaker 4: aware of everything that's going on, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Jason seems like something that I might have, you know,
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  Speaker 4: someone may have let me know about.
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  Speaker 7: I saw the pictures from Patris dot Com and I'm
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  Speaker 7: kind of like was looking through him and I could
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  Speaker 7: see I saw a picture with Alex.
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  Speaker 6: In the background.
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  Speaker 7: And then I saw a picture and I'm like, is
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  Speaker 7: that Jason Tatum in the background, And I started to
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  Speaker 7: like process him, Like my god, Alex was there with
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  Speaker 7: Jason Tatum at the same time.
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  Speaker 3: She must have least we talked about it.
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  Speaker 2: That's why she hasn't been in I think.
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  Speaker 4: So she said, well, that's why it was. Alex didn't
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  Speaker 4: do the show on Tuesday. I think that was the
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  Speaker 4: day of the event, right, and she came out and
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  Speaker 4: she did the show on Thursday. I wish she could
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  Speaker 4: laugh at ever and talking about comparing herself to West.
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  Speaker 2: But I guess this fanatics are going to be doing
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  Speaker 2: this every year now. It's the Day of Giving and
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  Speaker 2: they had it in different cities around the country. But wait,
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  Speaker 2: what an empire he's built. Michael Rubin.
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  Speaker 7: I had to go on his Wikipedia page today because
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  Speaker 7: I'm like, where did this guy come from? And I mean,
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  Speaker 7: he's I know about fanatics. But yeah, from that to
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  Speaker 7: the White Party, now he's just all over the self
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  Speaker 7: made of e commerce.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that's where he started.
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  Speaker 7: Did you see all the all the people that was
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  Speaker 7: like jay Z, Beyonce, Leonardo DiCaprio, Tom Brady.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I like the list.
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  Speaker 3: It's just he's he's one of those like people that
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  Speaker 3: if there was an Illuminati, he would be like the
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  Speaker 3: head of the secret head of Illuminati. Like everybody thinks
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  Speaker 3: that it's like somebody famous, like jay Z or something,
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  Speaker 3: but it's actually this like businessman is running all of
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  Speaker 3: the show behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, cool, I hate everybody that's there.
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  Speaker 3: They're all so fred You've been strong there because you'd
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  Speaker 3: have mustard all over your white right, Like I don't got.
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  Speaker 4: No white store.
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  Speaker 2: And I heard that they had like white makes you
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  Speaker 2: look fat.
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  Speaker 4: I heard they had pizza pizza.
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  Speaker 2: They got pizza white pizza because I hate white pizza.
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  Speaker 4: Tomato place supposedly famous for for for their pizza and uh,
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  Speaker 4: like they were talking about on the RAIDO.
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  Speaker 6: I totally agree.
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  Speaker 4: That's one of the last Like why don't you just
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  Speaker 4: get spaghetti and meatballs? You know at a white party, right,
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  Speaker 4: that would be all over Fred's shirt.
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  Speaker 2: God, easily, that would be just the.
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  Speaker 3: Meatball just comes out and splat, splats flat right down.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So there was a a certain celebrity, female celebrity that
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  Speaker 3: that was at the party as well, and she has
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  Speaker 3: now popped up a few times in Tom Brady's presence.
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  Speaker 4: Is that who you're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Really, Kim Kardashian. There's been multiple bread crumbs at this point,
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  Speaker 3: including buying a mansion in the same complex as Brady
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  Speaker 3: in Florida. That's recently.
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  Speaker 6: That's too much.
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  Speaker 7: Come on, you're getting clinging on me here at can.
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  Speaker 3: And and then she was at this at at Michael
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  Speaker 3: Rubin's party where Brady was also present.
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  Speaker 2: Well post all the people cannot be involved with she
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  Speaker 2: tops the list. I mean, it's just trouble from the
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  Speaker 2: word go the whole.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, you feel like you're part of a marketing campaign.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you really like, Oh, come on.
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  Speaker 7: That's why Tom's probably trying to play it cool, like
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  Speaker 7: we're having to read between the lines because probably if
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  Speaker 7: she had her way, they be you know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying every time I get that their celebrities
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  Speaker 3: and they might run and say similar social circles anyway,
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  Speaker 3: week one, Brady, right here we learn all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you get a chair.
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  Speaker 2: Get he brought us that whole clan.
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  Speaker 7: Well, there's other things I blame on OJ, but.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, eight five five past five hundred is the
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  Speaker 2: ACE ticket hutline web radio at pages dot com.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of options for Tom Brady to actually upgrade
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  Speaker 4: in terms of value, right.
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  Speaker 6: I know, I know he got one of the only ones.
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  Speaker 4: That Kim Kardashian's net worth is significantly greater than Jiselle's.
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  Speaker 7: That'd be about more than money for him, now, right,
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  Speaker 7: come on, Tom.
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  Speaker 3: Is it you also have a little bit of a
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  Speaker 3: couple of tidbits of news if we want to.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I tried with the right on your own time.
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  Speaker 2: John Bentley.
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  Speaker 3: We do have details on DeVante Parker's contract now he
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  Speaker 3: kind of is a very incentive laden contract kind of
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  Speaker 3: outline exactly. And also DeAndre Hopkins tweeting or actually threading
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  Speaker 3: threaded it, threaded it the new one that unfortunately he
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: got some bad clam chowder on his visit here at
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  Speaker 3: some point.
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  Speaker 2: That's a terrible way to say hello to New England.
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  Speaker 3: He according to him on thread threads threads by Instagram.
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  Speaker 3: He uh didn't know there was bacon bits in the
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  Speaker 3: clam chowder, and he doesn't eat pork. Pork is not
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  Speaker 3: part of case.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't a bad clam.
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  Speaker 3: No, it wasn't. Pork is not part of his diet.
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  Speaker 3: So he hasn't eaten pork. And he said eight years
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  Speaker 3: and he's had a stomach issues ever since.
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  Speaker 7: Patriots are out Patriots A. I don't like the pork.
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  Speaker 7: I don't like the bacon in the clam chowder. Not
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  Speaker 7: we're not on my watch. Down the cap there's no
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  Speaker 7: bacon down there.
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  Speaker 2: I've had it before. There was a Boston place that
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  Speaker 2: actually won a couple of awards and they have a
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  Speaker 2: bacon and it's I.
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  Speaker 7: Mean, I've had it, but I feel like pure clam
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  Speaker 7: chowder for me, like where I grew up having it.
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: But they had a lot in uh In La.
• 14:38
  Speaker 7: There was bacon in the clam chowder out there, a lot. Yeah,
• 14:41
  Speaker 7: there was a place called the Northern Spying Camp. That's
• 14:43
  Speaker 7: a good, good place, but they put bacon in. It's
• 14:45
  Speaker 7: real good, but I have to say no bacon.
• 14:47
  Speaker 6: But sorry, DeAndre.
• 14:48
  Speaker 8: How much of this chowder did he eat before he
• 14:50
  Speaker 8: realized there was Bacon in it?
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, plus how much this is delicious, plus how much.
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: I'm just reading the threads. All right, that's it. That's all.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: I sure was that Verified.
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: Need someone to read the threats. So I don't know
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: what the hell is going on.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, unless it's really quiet. It sounds like he's
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: taking his time, Hopkins. And it also sounds like unless
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: it's you know, people being really quiet about it. No
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: other teams have jumped into the to the mix.
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: Which I think Follower actually reported. It's just Tennessee and
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: New England.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's good for us.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, I got to take something back to I.
• 15:30
  Speaker 7: I called into the show from from the shores of
• 15:32
  Speaker 7: Maui last week to talk to Paul and Evan, and
• 15:35
  Speaker 7: Paul put me on the spot like, how are you
• 15:36
  Speaker 7: feeling about DeAndre? And I you know, I tried to
• 15:38
  Speaker 7: unplug in and I said, for some reason, I don't
• 15:40
  Speaker 7: think it's gonna happen. I take that back, like, I
• 15:42
  Speaker 7: still I still think it is going to and I
• 15:45
  Speaker 7: think it has to happen. Like the more I got
• 15:47
  Speaker 7: away from it, I'm like, you have to do something,
• 15:51
  Speaker 7: like I just don't think it's enough right now. To
• 15:53
  Speaker 7: realistically think this season is well, you're really going to
• 15:56
  Speaker 7: make some noise about that.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: Forget about the name of the player. It sounds like
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: they need another adequate receiver just because, like everybody's hurt
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: and people are going to get hurt. They need some
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: quality depth. You know. Now, if it can be DeAndre Hopkins, great,
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: you know, but it sounds like they're gonna need another receiver.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: Yes, you know, I mean especially those are kind two
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: different things, though, Fred they need. I think they need
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: DeAndre Hopkins. I think Mike and Evan have been talking
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: about this for weeks. Yep, they need that guy at
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: the top. They they need receivers for depth. I don't
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: think they have enough actual receivers for camp, but those
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: like aren't the same thing.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: No, I get I get it. But if you're going
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: to add a receiver, you might as well spend the
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: money and bring him in.
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: I agree, I think that would make sense.
• 16:39
  Speaker 7: I don't think you can ignore the depth either, I mean,
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: and the injury issues. It was just you know, I mean,
• 16:42
  Speaker 7: do we trust Taekwon Thornton. It's not only gonna be good,
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: but also have seventeen plus games in them.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: The show how often Paul over the years like, oh,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: we hear about some you know, skill position player with
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: you know, some type of injury and it just lingers
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: and it lingers. You know.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think they have enough wide receivers currently
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: on the roster.
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: I think you need a lot of body.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of running at that position in camp,
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: and you want to save these guys you don't want
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: to have you don't want to have juju.
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: When Thornton and.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: Parker just running, you know, born running routes constantly and
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: being every rep during the summer, that just kind of
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: adds to the wear and tear. And then you put
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: need those other guys too.
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and then you put ed Lee in there or
• 17:25
  Speaker 7: you know, those lower guys, and I mean it's I
• 17:28
  Speaker 7: feel like you're kind of hoping against the real possibilities
• 17:31
  Speaker 7: that one of those guys is really going to emerge.
• 17:32
  Speaker 7: I mean, I don't want to put too much in
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: the mini camp and OTA's, but it was, you know,
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: kind of disappointing that one of those guys wasn't you know,
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: didn't pop a little bit more. I mean, I don't
• 17:40
  Speaker 7: know if it necessarily is you know, death sentences to
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: as far as those guys go when it gets.
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: To training camp. But I think it's I think it's true.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: And I you.
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: Know, just the more you kind of step back, like
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: get away from it a little bit the last couple
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: of weeks, it's like.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: So you were away when that happened, Right to Parker extension,
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: it was I was, and I was surprised by it.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, and I think now in retrospect, I mean,
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: it's just that's they I think it's barred put it
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: like the easy deals like they're doing.
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: The guys who are willing to take incentive lative deals
• 18:05
  Speaker 7: to get you know, I don't know if you call
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: it security, but to get a new deal and to
• 18:09
  Speaker 7: get maybe some new money. But you know how much
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: I mean we've said it a hundred times. They like
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: him more than we like him, Like we have all
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: just been kind of like he's a nice contested receiver.
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: I think that he has a role within the offense,
• 18:21
  Speaker 7: but is he going to be a true needle mover?
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: Like to Fred's point, you know, if one of these
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: inside guys gets hurt like Parker is what he is, like,
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: he's never going to be able to man, we got
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: to you know, I'd even feel better about Borne. He's
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: not versatile and being more versatile and within the offense
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: than Parker. Like and if you get stuck with just
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: Mac and Parker is your main guys, it's you know,
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: in Gasicki and Henry, it's like, man, this is not
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: a dynamic.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: And there are guys now on my show it's Freddy
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: that are sort of, you know, reading between the lines.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: If Hopkins comes, they think that Bourne might go, and
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: they're not that's not the guy that they would have chosen.
• 18:55
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: Now, I don't know that you necessarily have to get
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: rid of anybody yet, Like we just about the depth,
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: so you could keep them all and figure it out.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: But what I what I didn't like about the Parker thing.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: And Evan and I talked about this Tuesday and Thursday
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: last week, and I think we're in agreement. It's not like,
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: oh my god, you just set the organization back ten
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: years or oh man, you're really setting everything up. You're
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: paving the way for Hopkins. We don't think it's either
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: one of those extremes. Yeah, Like I was just kind
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: of there.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't read into it that much. You have to
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: do this, you know, but every year with certain I.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Don't really understand why. Now my concern is this is
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: that comment that I said, I grew up in New
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: England and I've been, you know, sort of worried about
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: you know, I didn't get have the luxury of winning
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: a title every year of my life. What I would
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: worry about is what you kind of talked about with
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: those two kids not popping at all at Mini Caamp,
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Booty and Douglas. I would think that if they showed
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: a lot of promise for some other young receiver, it'd
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: shown a lot of promise. I don't think this would
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: necessarily be a movie you'd be willing to make or looking.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: To me, there was no need to extend a thirty
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: year old receiver coming off injury. Okay, okay season where
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: he was a complimentary piece. My feeling is Belichick probably
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: felt like, yeah, I need to have some receivers next
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: year that I know that I can rely on it.
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: That's not good.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: But didn't they didn't they free up some cap space
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: and isn't it incentive laden so you can talk about it.
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: Gets more money than you would have.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if he does certain things.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: No, No, well, there is the salary is guaranteed money.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Well this year he made next year, and.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well there's new money on the contract. It is,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: it's it's a real extension. So basically it's a three year,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: seventeen million dollar base value contract.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: Not thirty three million, but it's more than five point
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: eight which was what he was going to get.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: It's it's you know, it is in terms of the
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: new money that's on the contract the next two years,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: but it's about the same money that he was getting
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: on a per year basis. But the problem is, I think,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I'll call it a problem, but
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: it it basically guarantees his roster spot for the next
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: two years. Essentially, Like I think next year, they probably
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: will be able to move on if they absolutely need
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: to or want to, but they would carry some dead money.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: It'd be like three something million dollars guaranteed next Yeah.
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: Well that's that's that's the thing that I'm most interested in. Fred.
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: That came on the last couple of days, And I
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: apologize for where I where I saw it, but somebody
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: kind of ranked like teams, future cap space all that
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: kind of stuff.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know, you know what I'm talking about that,
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: and somebody posted, yeah, I think there's an ESPN plus
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: or one of those.
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: Like, but it's like the Patriots have like more money
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: in cap space over the next few years than anybody else.
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: And it's just and it's like in one part and
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: I know that, like the guaranteed money thing is kind
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: of a conversation on Paul's shows, you know, the the
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: amount of cash spending that they've been doing.
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: I know that's been a thing too, But it's just
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: what is.
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: The answer to all this because in one hand, you
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: don't really you haven't really had the players like to extend.
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: Like it's fine to say, well, I wish they would
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: spend more cash. We'll find on who like you really
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: wish that they had extended player what Like I mean,
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: is there anybody tuger?
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: So that's the next one coming up, So that should.
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: Be where it goes, right, But they seem reticent to
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: do it, Like I don't know, maybe they're trying.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: To have so much cap space because they don't have.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: They don't have to play good players, right, And what
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: I like about like, and I do think, you know,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: we can look at these two deals and the three
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: of us were just talking about this upstairs. I like
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: the idea of Bentley, you know, not like this, you know, multifaceted, uber,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: athletic inside linebacker. He's not that, that's not what he is.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: But I like the fact that they identify a guy
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: that works in their system, that performs a role, and
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: more importantly, is a leader and maybe a bridge to
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: that next group of leadership. You know, he's been a captain.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Now you're locking him up to stay. He was getting
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: during the final year of his deal too, so now
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: he's locked up to stay for two more years. And
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: I think that you can look at him and say,
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: I know the defense has at least one leader, and
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: I'm kind of hoping that that Kyle dugger is one
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: of those guys too. I don't know how much of
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: an outgoing leader he is when we talk to him.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: He doesn't really seem like he's it's more like high tower. Yeah,
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: But I like that, like think about that secondary potentially,
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: if not in twenty four and twenty five, it's Christian Gonzalez,
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: it's Marcus Jones, who knows what Jack Jones, It's Marte
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Marpoo Mapoo sorry, and hopefully Kyle Duggar and then who
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: would you think would be the leader of a group
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: like that in year three, right, year four, like it
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: would be the six year guy in Duggar at that time.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: I think it's important to try to continue that, you know,
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: that dynamic.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: It's important to have nucleus guys, you know, like with Bentley,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: you know, you get him signed up, he's all in,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: he's your guy. He comes in starting training camp as
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: one of your circle the wagon guys. You know, he
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: doesn't have to worry about the money anymore's contract, he's
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: he's all set, he's he's bought in. And you know,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: the more guys you can have like that, the better.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Which is what kind of impact does it have in
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: the locker room too? Of you know, and this goes.
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: To like my thing with with Bentley was like you
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: couldn't have just like you keep stringing him along on
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: two year deals, Like no, Bentley wasn't going anywhere else,
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: like I think anytime we talked about him. You know
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: that again, like Parker, he has more value here than
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: he probably does anywhere else. And and to agree with Paul,
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think he's a great piece like I do.
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: I think that he's great against Lamar Jackson's in the world. No,
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: I think that's probably like you're starting to think, hey,
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: we hope that Marty Mattpu can be you know, one
• 24:33
  Speaker 7: of those mobile inside guys that can stick with him.
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: But I think he's got a role one hundred percent
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: on the team. But I just wonder if you don't
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: extend Kyle Duggart, the guys start to say, like, look,
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: no matter how well I play here, even if I
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: get a contract, they're probably gonna low ball me. And
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: it's gonna be a two year deal and there's gonna
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: be a bunch of incentives in it, and no thanks,
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: Like I don't.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Want to be a past Like I started thinking back,
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: and it's always dangerous because then I always forget guys
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: when I do this. But like I was thinking of, like, well,
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: these are the kinds of move Who's Bentley Parker. It
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: was like a Jarvis Green, you know, valuable guy, good piece.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: Let's let's not even let him get to free agency.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: Let's let's lock him up. But Douger to me is
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: more of like a Mike Rabel, you know, let's not
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: even let him get to free agency, let's lock him up.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe little bit harder to do. Yeah, and that exactly.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Maybe the fact that they haven't signed Dougger yet means
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: it's a little bit more complicated than these other No.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: This this big money there. Ye, you know, Douglas going
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: to get a decent contract. I think a guy like
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: josh Uja, you know, depending on what he does, he's
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: going to break the bank. If he has another double
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: digit sack season, he's going to be very valuable as
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: an edge rusher with back to back ten plus sax seasons.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: So I get that if they you have to pick,
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: you can't have everybody, you know, Michael, when you I
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: would read the tea leaves and say they've drafted I
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: don't know, five interior offensive lineman the next the last
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: two drafts. My guess is they're going to be pretty
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: comfortable that one of those guys will be able to
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: step in for a when you if when you was
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: like one of those sixty million dollar guards. I think
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: they've been down that road with Shack and total in
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: Joe Toney. My guess is they probably don't want to
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: go down there again totally, even though when you's been excellent.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but all them as I sat upstairs.
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: I said it probably for It's like if you had
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: to pick a position in football that you need to
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: figure out, right guard, right tackle, those are probably the
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: two places I.
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: Am going to start. I know you probably start with kicker.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Paul, but.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: You know, either that or you know, just you know
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: running back.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Well, guards and running backs are kind of similar, right
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: in terms of the entertainability. But I just think with
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: bent Parker I have much different opinion on in terms
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: of the contract, but with Bentley, like you have to
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: at some point start building a nucleus of core players,
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Like you can't just keep recycling every four years. And
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: you know, I think that a lot of the talk is,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: well they don't. They're not drafting linebackers, so now they
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: just are forced to kind of keep Bentley in the fold.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: And it's like, at some point you got to keep
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: some guys around, Like you can't just keep on recycling
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: players every four years in the draft and just trying
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: to go about it that way. You have to have leaders.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: You have to have guys that buy into the system,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: that understand the defense, understand the culture, understand the program,
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: and are going to be leaders for you in the
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: locker room. You have to at least a handful and
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: are those types of guys. Yeah, and he's really one
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: of those guys. I also think he's kind of an
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: underrated player. Like I know, he's not what everybody wants.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: He's not Fred Warner, he's not Matt Milano, he's not
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: this two hundred and thirty pound athletic, rangy coverage linebacker.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: But for what they need that position, in that role
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: in this defense to do, he's really really good at it.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: Yep. I like my guys missed it was a lot
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: of agreeing. Yeah, and Paul last week, you guys missed it.
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I think good stuff.
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: It's it's it's one of those things where I think
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: we're seeing, you know, through the similar lens right now
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: of especially the Dugger situation, and it's you know, it's
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: it's just it's hard because you say Dugger and Ooja
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: and then who, like, like you know, who else is
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: going to deserve a chunk of this money, you know,
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: cap space that they have coming up, and you know,
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: and I just I don't think that Bill is necessarily
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: planning it this way, but I just can't help but
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: think that if he were to depart that it's kind
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: of a clean slate for whoever's next. There's not a
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: bunch of cap commitments to guys that you know that
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: somebody else may or may not like.
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: Probably reading too much into that, but I don't know.
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: It's just it seems like they're in good shape if
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: if they needed to turn things over soon, that they
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: could do it pretty easily.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: All right. Eight five five Pats five hundred is the
• 28:28
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• 28:32
  Speaker 2: you want? Yeah, a little patriots, Little patriots?
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: Can I I got two things.
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: I gotta give a shout out to Steve from Rancho
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: Kokamonga who spotted me in Maui and it said he's
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: a big fan of the show.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: So it's one of the first times I've been out
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: in public.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: I think I remember his email.
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: I told him.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: Remember email from Rancho Ku Yeah, because that isn't that
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: where Patty Chung was from, right?
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Maybe?
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Maybe?
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: I also watched Adi for Brady on the plane. Well,
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: I wouldn't say I watched it. I kind of scan
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: through it.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I watched it too. Oh, by the way, I went
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: to see Asteroid City. Awful, awful, and I like Wes
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Anderson movies. Mostly this was terrible.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: I've lost him.
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: I love the Bottle Rocket is one of his first ones,
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: was like one of my all time favorite movies. And
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: Royal Tenon Bombs was good to be good. It's kind
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: of funny. It's like Ohen Wilson's first movie. They're like
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: small time inept crooks. But but I did enjoy just
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: watching the end of eighty for Brady and kind of
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: reliving the game.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: And no, no, you the it's not the end, that's
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: the client I skipped out before the the Benedict Arnold's
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: in the at the end. It was it was every
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: cliche in the book.
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: I thought Gronk was really funny though, like just his
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: little bit.
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: But man, Brady can't act like it's just he's He's
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: just such a bad actor.
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: But it did remind me of like just.
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: Watching it and I'm like, look, the Patriots, they'll maybe
• 29:55
  Speaker 7: win another Super Bowl. It'll never be like that again,
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: Like it'll never be that ridiculously over the top, intense dramatic,
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: you know, just the way that that team was some
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: of those some of those I mean no, and I
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: mean it in a good way, Like I felt like
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: kind of re energized coming back of just like man,
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: it was it was really cool. It's different now for sure,
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: but you know, just the way that that game unfolded,
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: it's still it's just it it blows around.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: That was magic, you know. I don't I still can't
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: believe what I saw, right.
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: I mean every time you see it you can't believe,
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: especially when you're watching it through like the eyes of
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: Jane Fauna.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: My god, the.
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: Guy Fieri scene, I mean, there's so much.
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: The other thing was like, you know, they put like
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: the two guys on there that were like kind of
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: like the Fitzy Like it seemed like they were doing
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: one of Me and FITZI shows and like they couldn't
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: have gotten us.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: But that was like I don't know, Yeah, why didn't
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: they hire you?
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: And it's like, wow, watched you if you were in it?
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Well, the guys that they got, because they were terrible.
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: It was like they just sat him down and like,
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: I don't know, just do some Boston stuff and I
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: couldn't like the accents, like.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: The like we were available. Just called right, Robert Coudrey,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Like you your phone, Boston.
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: You should know if you just don't do an accident.
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: It's better than trying to do a Boston accent.
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: Been doing a bad Boston accent where every every r
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: is Ah.
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: That was bad, but but it was fun. I just
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: kind of like, you know it, Scanter, like, oh guy here,
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: And then got to the game.
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: I'm like, all right, we'll watch this now.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: But it wasn't good.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: But so you didn't see the end. You told me.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: You told me about that, so I tapped out before that.
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: I think I think we had.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: If I had known, I would have done the same.
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: My oly question was, I don't think they said the
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: word Belichick once in the whole movie.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: He was in it. He was in it twice, like
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: like a shot of him right walking walking sideline and
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: then there was one of him walking into the tunnel
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: like before the game.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I ever.
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: Talked about him.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: It was always the Patriots, And you know, I did
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: have some notes.
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: I had some notes on the script, you know, I'm like,
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: all right, so they're they're lifelong fans watching the game.
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: In the opening of the movie, they all have brand
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: new Brady jerseys on.
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: I'm like, can we get one of these ladies who's
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: had like a worn torn good you know, and then
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: when you flip them at the end and they start
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: wearing the bedazzled ones, like you know, then it has
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: a little pops a little more.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: That's you know, Hollywood, Deuce have for a second there
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: raised the stake ghost.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: That's a good point.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the only person on the planet is concerned with
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: what year the shirt was.
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: But like, if you're a lifelong fan, wouldn't you And
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: this is like a tradition to them, And it looks
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: like they just you know, open that the shirts from fanatics,
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: like all.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: Lifelong fans have to be like Fireman ad and wear
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: a shirt that's like.
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: Fifty years old.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Chances are you would have one that you wear every
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: game and it's a little bit beat up.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: I would also hope that lifelong fans would not jump
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: ship to Tampa Bay as soon as Tom Brady left.
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: You know, that's fine. I'm glad it was made.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: I'm glad it.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Exists, all right, pass five hundred days taken out the one.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Person I know that says that I'm glad it exists.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Let's let's turn to the listeners, see what's on everyone's mind.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: We'll go to Todd, North Carolina, what's up, Todd?
• 32:43
  Speaker 10: So I was thinking about this for a while. You
• 32:47
  Speaker 10: take a look at pradition, Patricia, You take a look
• 32:48
  Speaker 10: at McDaniels. They take a look a lot of the
• 32:50
  Speaker 10: coaches that have left here, and you know, they probably
• 32:53
  Speaker 10: kind of have a legacy because they've been here for
• 32:55
  Speaker 10: several Super Bowls and stuff, But how much of their
• 32:59
  Speaker 10: how much of their legacy their success is just tied
• 33:02
  Speaker 10: to being a part of the Patriots and having Bill
• 33:04
  Speaker 10: there and maybe Tom there and just having this organization,
• 33:07
  Speaker 10: and then when they get out, they just don't seem
• 33:09
  Speaker 10: to perform, Like what do you think is going on
• 33:11
  Speaker 10: with that? You know, that inability to make it work
• 33:15
  Speaker 10: outside this the site? So and could you please send
• 33:18
  Speaker 10: me back because I was going to buy you guys lunch,
• 33:19
  Speaker 10: but young, you should put me on hold too quick?
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: Oh well make sure you do that for I don't hit,
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: don't no, no, I'll hit, don't drop it, Okay, he's
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: on Hope.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think all of their success is tied
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: to the I don't mean to be disrespectful, but these
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: guys haven't had really any success outside of New England. Yeah,
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Patricia McDaniels, I think.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Yet I think Manginie would have had he not been
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: blackballed by the league, you know, but I don't.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: I don't agree with that at all. You had time
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: to do it in New York. He had another opportunity
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: in Cleveland.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Well, I say, I think he would have. I think
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: he would have been good.
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: But he got another job after.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: We think Ryan Dabele is having success.
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: Yep, he was here a couple of times.
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: Can we claim him, yeah, I mean I would claim
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: Brian Dable, Yeah he was.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: He was just like Josh McDaniels. They came in as
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: coaching assistance in two thousand, right, but he was never
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: he was never the coordinator here. He was always a
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: position coach here.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know he learned under Bill,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: I would say, and he had success.
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: It's hard.
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: I mean, do you guys have a different at all
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: perspective of Josh McDaniel's after last season?
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: As I thinking about it a little bit, I.
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: Feel like I have a little bit more appreciation for,
• 34:34
  Speaker 7: you know, what he did as far as keeping the offense.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: I always had and I still think I think he's
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: got a chance to be a good head coach. It's
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: just it's gonna take time. You know, it's hard.
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: He's got a year just so you know, because if
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: he flames out this year and gets fired, he's probably
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: not going to get a third chance.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Do you think Mark Davis would fire.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Him can afford it.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: If he could have afford it, he would have fired
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: him last year. Hey, And I'm not telling you I
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: thought he should have been fired because I don't. But
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: I think if Mark Davis could have afforded it, he'd
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: have been gone.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: I'm a big McDaniels fan, Like I think that he's
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: a really, really good offensive coach. But the one thing
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: about him is that you play his system like his
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: system is his system, and whether you're Tom Brady, you're
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Mac Jones, you're Cam Newton, like you figure it out,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: you play what I tell you to do. And I
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: think that that's where he's maybe run into some trouble
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: in other places, is getting the right people in place
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: to play that system, especially at the quarterback position. And
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: even last year Derek Carr had issues with it, didn't
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: love it. There's some pushback there of what they were
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: asking him to do. So That's the one thing about
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: McDaniels is like he's he's.
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: Gonna go, he's gonna he's gonna do.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: He's gonna go down with the ship if it is.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: And I also think he's impatient with with that stuff
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: that you guys are talking about.
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: Well, it's just I mean, it's interesting to me that
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: the two situations that he's gone to outside.
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: Of New England mirror each other.
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: You know, so closely, that he's going to two programs
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: with you know, at least a quarter quarterback and a
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: wide receiver that are you know, proven in the league.
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: You would have.
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: Thought at that time, like I mean, at that point
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: Jay Cutler and Brandon Marshall, you like, Wow, he's really
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: going to something. Then you know, within a year they're
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: both gone. Now Derek Carr's gone, and he's kind of
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: tying his fate to Jimmy Garoppolo, who you know, just
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: can't seem to stay healthy.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: And it's but it makes perfect sense because Jimmy's a
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: guy don't know what he wants him to do exactly
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: like you just do it my way, it'll work. That's
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: how these guys think, Like even like a Kyle Shanahan
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: that's why they had, you know, I know they trade
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: all those picks for Trey Lance, but he's even one
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: of those guys that's just like, if you just hit
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: the right button on the on the Xbox controller that
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: I tell you to hit, like, the offense is gonna
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: be fine. Don't don't try to do anything else, like,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: don't try to be creative, don't try to put your
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: own spin on it, Like if the read is this,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: then then throw the read like and that's that's how
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: McDaniels is.
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, the interesting year out there in a Vegas.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it's hard to be a head
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: coach in the NFL, and I think there's a thirst
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: for good head coaches, you know, and there's a lack
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: of them. And I think, you know, when you come
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: from a program that's had all the success, people just
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: want to get a piece of that, you know, bring
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: some of that to me. And it's it's just not
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: always that's not how it works. I just don't get.
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: Too caught up in like whether or not Belichick's tree
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: has success around the league.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: Like, I don't care at all the Belichick tree. I'm
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: just assessing those guys.
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, the only one that you know, the
• 37:31
  Speaker 7: only one that really matters to me is is if
• 37:33
  Speaker 7: it's somebody off the tree that is the next head
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: coach here, Like, you know, that's the one that that
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: I want to see be successful. But you know, you
• 37:39
  Speaker 7: can break out all the cliches that they're trying to
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: be Bill, and you know, there's a certain you know,
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: I just think that there's a certain element of knowledge
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: that Bill Belichick has it, you know, in perspective that
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: none of those guys are going to have no matter
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: how much time they've spent with him, He's going to
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: always do things his own way. And you know it's
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: and even when he's doing it that way, it's not
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: a guarantee of success.
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: So I don't know, it's it's it's a high bar.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: It's like you said, Fred, it's really hard to be
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: a head coach.
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: In this league and to manage to go from managing
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: an offense or defense to now you're managing everybody. And
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: not only that, but you're like got to take a
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: temperature of the team and make sure everyone's pulling in
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: the right direction, you know, all those things.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: I think that's been the hardest part for guys that
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: have off the Belichick tree is the CEO elements of
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: being the head coach of the team, the personal elements
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: with the players, and the interactions with the players and
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: like all that kind of stuff, because all of them
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: are good football coaches on their respective sides of the
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: of the football. And it's never I never viewed it
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: as like a really big x's and o's thing. It's
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: like a culture thing. Like they just haven't built that
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: that culture in their own way yet. And I think
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: that that's for McDaniels. Like if I was the Raiders,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: I'd give it some time. Like I wouldn't fire him
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: after two seasons, I'd give him three or four years
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: to try to establish his own foundation.
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: See that's the thing. I agree with you on that.
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: And I also saw some of the debate you know
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: that's going around with with Belichick and Andy Reid, and
• 39:04
  Speaker 7: like I just I don't think you can discount over
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: the last twenty years that the hard attack that this
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: league has taken towards offensive football. And if you have
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: a guy in house that knows offensive football and you
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: know you, I mean, clearly he has a plan and
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: knows what he wants to do.
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: It's it's not easy to go to to get rid
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: of that.
• 39:20
  Speaker 7: And all right, we're gonna go with a defensive guy now,
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: Like in this league you have to have you know,
• 39:25
  Speaker 7: maybe last year is I'm scarred from what we did here,
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: but like you have to have an offensive coordinator, an
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: offensive guru in the building that knows what they're doing.
• 39:33
  Speaker 7: It's just how the league is now. You can't try
• 39:35
  Speaker 7: to get by, you know, just shutting everybody down every week.
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: It's just it's not going to happen.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Patty and Ago on. What's up? Patty up?
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: Everyone?
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: Hey, hy Patty?
• 39:48
  Speaker 11: Hey, Mike, I love Brushmore's.
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good one too, yep.
• 39:53
  Speaker 11: Wanting to have make a point. And then if I
• 39:56
  Speaker 11: have time, Freddy to play play against that Jersey game
• 39:59
  Speaker 11: with Paul.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: We have time, Stump, Perillo, we have time. The floor
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: is yours, all right, perfect, So just go piggybacking off
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: of what you guys said.
• 40:10
  Speaker 11: About you know, Chay and on when you and Kyle Duggar, Freddie,
• 40:15
  Speaker 11: I remember back in twenty sixteen a show that I
• 40:18
  Speaker 11: sat in on with you and Camp Crispy, and one
• 40:24
  Speaker 11: of the discussions that we had was at that point
• 40:27
  Speaker 11: it was Jamie Collins, Donta High Tower, and Malcolm Butler,
• 40:31
  Speaker 11: and who were they going to resign? We were they
• 40:33
  Speaker 11: going to resign all three? One maybe two of them,
• 40:36
  Speaker 11: and one ended up happening after sixteen. They franchised Butler,
• 40:41
  Speaker 11: They trade Jamie Collins miss season Halloween and they they
• 40:45
  Speaker 11: basically let Dante go to the Steelers and you know,
• 40:49
  Speaker 11: look a look at an offer from them before he
• 40:51
  Speaker 11: comes back, and we make an offer.
• 40:53
  Speaker 12: Too many stays here.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they let them all go.
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: Basically.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: I'm just well, it was it was Chandler, Channel Jones.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: We wanted to Chandler Jones, High Tower, Collins with a three,
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: big money and then and then Butler.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: But and I remember talking about it's like this is
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: the core of the defense for years to come.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: And and Patty and Patty's right. The only reason why
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: High Tower state is because he flunked physical and he
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: he had offers from Pittsburgh and the Jets. I believe
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: the Jets were the one that that actually had him
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: signed and he failed the physical and ended up staying.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: But they almost lost all four of them.
• 41:30
  Speaker 7: Right, And but that point, there was never like these
• 41:33
  Speaker 7: are the guys that we have to have.
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: Let's give them the deal.
• 41:35
  Speaker 7: It was all kind of well, we'll see, and it's
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: just it felt like it's been like that for a while.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I hope as hold on with that.
• 41:44
  Speaker 11: I hope they signed to an opera sheet. And I know,
• 41:49
  Speaker 11: I mean, Sudan's only signed through this year and next year,
• 41:52
  Speaker 11: so I'm hoping, like if he has another big season,
• 41:55
  Speaker 11: I mean, he might price himself out of here, but
• 41:57
  Speaker 11: I would I would like at least like the seed
• 42:00
  Speaker 11: Duggers stay impossibly u J too, because I'm with you.
• 42:03
  Speaker 11: I think on when it was gone after this year?
• 42:06
  Speaker 11: All right, So are you ready.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: For this, PAULI, yeah, you gotta make a quick friend's
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: got an itchy trigger for that's all right.
• 42:13
  Speaker 11: It's the nineteen ninety four running back edition of Name
• 42:16
  Speaker 11: That Jersey?
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: Okay, number forty four John Steven ninety four, ninety four,
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: number forty forty four.
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: Marion Butts.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: But in nineteen ninety four number forty.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Four, Butts was thirty three, wasn't he.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go marrying Butts just because I have no idea.
• 42:34
  Speaker 11: Yeah, that's right.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: Wait, so Deuce gets a point okay, hit chobd gets
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: a score twenty six. Cory Krom correct, you didn't even
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: finish the question. Leroy Thompson, Yes, sir, and the last one.
• 42:50
  Speaker 11: And I'll cut out here because I know Fred's got
• 42:51
  Speaker 11: the itchy trigger. Figer number thirty.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: Two, Devin mccordy, ty, No, No, it's thirty four thirty
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: two running back.
• 43:05
  Speaker 11: It was a full back. I'll give you a head.
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: Leonard Floyd.
• 43:10
  Speaker 11: I don't know Andre Bowden and.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Would have never got that.
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: Never heard that name of my life.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: There you go, thanks Patty me twice. Yeah, I didn't
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: get Marrion, butson I didn't get Cory.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: That's July fourth hangover.
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: Was he kind of saying, like extend Judon?
• 43:30
  Speaker 7: Was that?
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: Was that what he was kind of hitting? No, he
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: was saying, because Judon is going to be gone.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: I would pay to I would.
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: I mean, I just I mean to that At the point,
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: I feel like it's a little that's a tougher one
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: for me. But if you're get because Judon is not
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: going to be here forever, like you don't, don't get
• 43:48
  Speaker 7: married to your own players, like it's not I think.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: Is a better pass rusher than Judon, so I would pay.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: But that's just me.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Tim and Boston. What's up, Tim?
• 44:01
  Speaker 13: Hey, guys, how we're doing good?
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 44:04
  Speaker 13: So I feel like what I see the general sentiment
• 44:07
  Speaker 13: of past fans is that we're less optimistic about Mac
• 44:10
  Speaker 13: Jones being the guy now than we were after his
• 44:14
  Speaker 13: rookie year. And looking at last year, I don't really
• 44:17
  Speaker 13: see why that would be the case. Like, look at
• 44:20
  Speaker 13: what he dealt with. He didn't have an OC, he
• 44:22
  Speaker 13: had no weapons. The receivers are running into each other,
• 44:25
  Speaker 13: and I can't think of a quarterback other than Patrick
• 44:27
  Speaker 13: Mahomes who could have made that offense.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Well, but here's the thing. I hear what you're saying
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: to him, but if he really was the guy, he
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: would have still among all that stuff. Well, at least
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Mac looks pretty good, and you couldn't say that like
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: he didn't run Like I'm not saying he should have
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: like made the playoffs and you know, had five thousand
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: yards passing, but you would have seen simes that Mac
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: is better than this and he was just along with it.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: You know, there weren't any signs of him rising above
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: it or you know, you know what I'm saying, yeah, like.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: Coming off a rookie that he went in the tank
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: the last like six weeks of the season. Like, to me,
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: it was an extension of what was already happening, you know.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Among the mess. Didn't we weren't able to say, well,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: at least Max playing well.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: You know, I just think that you have to just
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: the eye test of what he's physically capable of is
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: still a question mark. Like I think Mac Jones can
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: be a really good game manager like he was his
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: rookie season. I think we know that that he can
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: be somebody that has a two to one touchdown interception ratio,
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: takes care of the football, makes the offense tick, you know,
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: to the efficiency that the playmakers around it as the
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: potential to tick. But is he going to elevate the group?
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: Is he going to make the wow plays, the plays
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: out of structure, the plays that he's not expected to
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: just like hit the seven yard slant, like is he
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: going to be able to add his own dressing to it?
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: And I don't think we've seen that yet to say
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: that he can do that. Can he be really serviceable
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: NFL starter and carry a good team to ten to
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: eleven wins. Yeah, I think so, But can he really
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: push the envelope to make them a Super Bowl contender?
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: I mean, I just have to.
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: I can't ignore the context of who he has to
• 46:13
  Speaker 7: go against. And I mean, you have a Hall of
• 46:14
  Speaker 7: Fame quarterback in your division. Now you have Josh Allen,
• 46:17
  Speaker 7: who you've beaten once, you know, recently in a win game,
• 46:21
  Speaker 7: and to who you haven't beaten yet. So you know,
• 46:23
  Speaker 7: for as fine as Mac Jones can be, it's it
• 46:26
  Speaker 7: can't just be fine, Like he has to beat these
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: guys this year.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: And I think this is another one of those things
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: that more than one thing can be true. I think
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: that they were set up to fail with the structure
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: of the offensive coaching staff last year. I think Tim
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: is exactly right. But I don't think that if you
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: are a great quarterback that that means you're doomed to fail.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: Like I think you overcome that if you have that
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: kind of ability. Now again, if I'm going to list
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: the list of problems from last year, certainly Patricia being
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: offensive coordinator is above Mac Jones, but Mac Jones is
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: up there. He didn't play well.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: I just keep coming back to the same thing with
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: MACUSI is he going to be along for the ride
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: or is he going to be pulling the wagon?
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: And if it's okay, if he's along for the ride,
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: but then your team building needs to reflect at the quarterback.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: I just think there are so many examples of people
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: that you could come up with that, and I don't
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: have a specific one off the top of my head
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: right now, But like, you know, these quarterbacks who have
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: a merry go round of offensive coordinators and they flame
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: out of the league and you're like, oh, that guy's stunk.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: He was overrated. You know, no one ever said, well,
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: you know, what did Zach Wilson have for an offensive coordinator?
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: Like did anybody ever say that?
• 47:51
  Speaker 14: No?
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: And to me, if you were watching Zach Wilson play,
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: Zack Wilson was part of the problem, a big part
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: of it. Like I don't think we do that for here.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: I don't think we do that with Mac Jones. It
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: was all Patricia. I think Patricia was a big part
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: of it. I think Mac Jones was a big part
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: of it too. I don't think he played well.
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and he was surrounded by kind of the same
• 48:14
  Speaker 7: guys in mini camp.
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: But it's just it looks kind of the same.
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's just he is what he is, and
• 48:19
  Speaker 7: you know, until I see him get out there in
• 48:21
  Speaker 7: a competitive situation and you know, push that envelope a
• 48:24
  Speaker 7: little bit where all right, they're humming right now and
• 48:26
  Speaker 7: he's kind of locked in, like you know, I agree
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: with you know, Tim's general point that there were times
• 48:31
  Speaker 7: during that rookie season where you know, specifically Cleveland, where
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: you felt like he was locked in and cooking, and
• 48:37
  Speaker 7: you know, and there were even some times last year.
• 48:39
  Speaker 7: You know, they weren't a lot, but you know, but
• 48:41
  Speaker 7: I think Paul's point about the way that rookie season ended,
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: getting your doors absolutely blown off in Buffalo, that that
• 48:49
  Speaker 7: put a shadow over.
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: That whole sea.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: And Evan, I have a question for you, because you know,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: you said, you know, it's a possibility he could be
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: a really good game manager. Yeah, but in today's NFL
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: is that good enough?
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: If it is if you build up the roster around
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: the quarterback.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Well, who's the game manager that is gone to a
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: super Bowl or wanted or as a game manager?
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: I think what Jimmy was a couple years ago in
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: San Francisco is what you would expect Mac to look
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: like when he has Deebo Samuel and George Kittle and
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: you know, all these great offensive line play, great scheme,
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: like everything is is great for him. And if he
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: can be that, then I think with Belichick and with
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Bill O'Brien back, and with all the right coaches in place,
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: that they could be a team that makes some noise.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: But their team building does not reflect that.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: So you're saying a team a game manager must have
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: great players around.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: H Yeah, and their team building is not like they
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: think that Devonte Parker and Kendrick Bourne and Juju Smith
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: Schuster is enough. So if you feel that way, then
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: you must really believe in the quarterback because Brady could
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: win with that. Like if Brady what had these playmakers,
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: they be the favorites to win the Super Bowl. We
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: all know that, but they don't. They don't have him anymore,
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: Like he's not here anymore. You can't run the team
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: like you still have Tom Brady under center, because you don't.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: So that's what has to give to me is you
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: either need to decide that Mac is just kind of
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: along for the ride, which means that we have to
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: sign DeAndre Hopkins and we have to sign Dalvin Cook
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: and we have to draft receivers every single year and
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: try to really surround him with superstar talent, or you
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: have to think that Mac is going to take the
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: next step and be the guy that's doing heavy lifting.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: And I don't know what evidence we have to suggest
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: that Mac is going to be the one that's going
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: to be this MVP caliber guy.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: Speaking of Shuster, has he been active on social media lately?
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: I'm not sure, pretty quiet.
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: I'm lost on social media because you been watching his tech,
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: You've been threading. Yeah, I don't. I don't do wonder
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: the best circumstances, but I like, seriously, this stuff that's
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: going on with Twitter and threads and all these master
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't I don't know where even
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: to find it.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: But I'm just wondering, like, like, where is he?
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: Where Shoester, He's he's he's been posting. He's big on Instagram.
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: Okay, all right, and TikTok obviously your share was him.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: He's not hiding anything, okay.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: And by the way, you know, like the whole game
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: manager thing, like I agree with the boys here, like
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: there are always exceptions, and what worries me about you know.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: This particular case is usually when you have a young
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: guy that you know, when you can afford it, you
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: go out and load it up and then you can
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: have a game manager. I mean, there'll be a game
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: manager that that wins it all. I mean, right now,
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: it's been Brady, it's been Mahomes, you know, and it's
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: been those guys in the Super Bowl and winning the
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: Super Bowls. But I'm not going to be stunned if
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: Brock Purdy is San Francisco's quarterback next year and the
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: Niners go to the title, Like will.
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: I'd be surprised.
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: Yes, I will be surprised, But that's a roster certainly
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: capable of going to the to the Super Bowl. They
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: were game away last year.
• 52:02
  Speaker 7: I mean, I've seen more out of Tua as far
• 52:03
  Speaker 7: as the game manager to believe that he would be the.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: Correct And I'm again I'm not saying like that's what
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: I think mac Jones, but I'm saying, if mac Jones
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: turns into a really good game and I think Kirk
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: Cousins is a game manager and they haven't been able
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: to win the get like, that's my opinion of the
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: ceiling for those guys is you could be a playoff team,
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: but you're not going deep in the playoffs. But there's
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: always the exception. In San Francisco right now, to me,
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: is signed up to be.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: It's the definition of a game manager. Any quarterback who's
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: not elite but not bad.
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: Pretty much good, good, not great. I mean, what's wrong
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: with that? I like, like, I don't think that that is.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: I used to sort of think, like when Brady early
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: in his career, people tagged him with the game manager thing,
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: and I used to say, all the time, what's wrong
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: with that? It's the guy who almost never makes mistakes.
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: He's the difference between him and average joe. Game manager
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: was absolutely immense in the watch, Yeah, and Brady had
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: that from day one, but early on, Yeah, he hitted
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: the ball off a lot, he relied on his defense
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: a lot, they punted a lot, and then he made
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: plays when he had to. You can win like that.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: But you mentioned the the rookie contract for the quarterback,
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: and they haven't done that.
• 53:19
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: They haven't maximized the window. And we're sitting here on
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: July was it six My dates are all messed up.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: July sixth, and they have sixteen million dollars in cap
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: space right now to use right now? Why are you
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: sitting on sixteen million dollars in cap space when you
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: have thirty three guys under contract for next year that
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: aren't on rookie deals, so they have one hundred million
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: dollars in cap space projected for next year. Why, like,
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: what are you saving the money for? That's that was
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: my question, and it's just Kyle Tuger.
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: They always say, I know this is a Miguel question.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: You guys might not know. Miguel would have it right
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: off to what is the operating costs that you need?
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: About six million?
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Six?
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: I think is about six But you can always, like
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: we all know, you can always move the money around
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: in season to figure it out.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 54:05
  Speaker 6: That's a different thing altogether.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, they always say.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: And when Bill went on the real cash spending answer
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: that he gave a couple of years ago that everybody
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: Paul's shows loves to play and stuff like that, I
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: think the main thing that he was trying to get
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: across is that we spend to the cap. We don't
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: necessarily hand out bonuses and stuff like that to go
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: wait over the cap, which is where the real cash
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: comes in, but we spend to the cap every year.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: They are currently not spending to the cap. So you
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: have this sixteen million dollars in cap space right now.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: If it goes to the DeAndre Hopkins tomorrow, then like
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: I'll get off the soapbox. But like for right now,
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: you have cap space this year, you have cap space
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: next year, and you have a team that needs help,
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: so at some point you have to The cap space
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: is great to talk about. It's fun. Oh cool, we
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: have all this cap space. Next year, you need to
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: fill it with players, like if you're not filling it
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: with players. And that's why I said, you know, I
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: would also pay uj because that's a good football player.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: That's a double digitsack guy. I think in terms of
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: like peer one on one pass rushing, he's probably your best.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: I'm going to beat the left tackle and I'm going
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: to get to the quarterback guy on your roster, and
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: you have all kinds of money. Yeah, So I don't
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: know what that's the part of it. The rookie contract
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: thing really bugs me because they have not maximized that window.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: They have not gone out except one year max rookie
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: year in the twenty twenty one free agency. They have
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: not gone out and paid everybody else around the quarterback
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: to make the team significantly better around the QB. They've
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: stuck to their guns on their typical spending model of conservatism.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: Really and when he had Brady it worked. I don't
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: know if that team building strategy works now.
• 55:49
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean, and to say like they probably wouldn't
• 55:51
  Speaker 7: ever have had sixteen million in cap space at this
• 55:54
  Speaker 7: point when Brady was even under contract, right, No, like
• 55:56
  Speaker 7: like it's it's even worse right now for what max
• 56:00
  Speaker 7: I mean, it ties into Yeah.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: There was probably years where they did, but at the
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: same time that flexibility was always used eventually, right, So
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: like the years that I've been covering the team, they
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: had cap space in nineteen and they gave it to
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: Antonio Brown and Mohammed Sanu, So they made moves in season.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: Now they didn't work out, but they made moves in
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: season to use that surplus of cap space. So the
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: rollover cap only matters if you're up against it next year,
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: but they're not up against it next year, so saving
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: them the cap space to roll it over, so you're
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: just instead of one hundred million dollars in cap space.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Now you have one hundred and ten. I don't think
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: that that's really.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: But I think the rule, the CBA rules are I think,
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's every three or four years.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: You have to true up three years. Yeah, you have
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: to use it all up. Yeah, you know you can't
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: hold on to it.
• 56:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And so that's you know, And then I mean
• 56:54
  Speaker 7: it's a talking point right now, and it's like, do
• 56:55
  Speaker 7: you do you want to be in the top cash
• 56:57
  Speaker 7: spending team every single season?
• 56:58
  Speaker 6: Like I don't think.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: Well, so that's why the business That was the other
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: thing that he said and I that I think is accurate.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: Teams don't look at it at a one year to
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: year basis when it comes to cash, they look at
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: it in a three year span. So, because they spent
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: all that money in twenty twenty one, the twenty twenty
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: two and twenty twenty three budgets go down to make
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: up for the fact that they spent all that money
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: in twenty one. So and in some respects I understand
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: what he was He gets killed for it, now, that's
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: what that's what Bill was talking about right for three years.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: But I understand what he was saying from a budgeting
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: standpoint for them what they're doing. But I don't care
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: about if they I don't care if they they spend
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: four hundred million, five hundred million dollars in the football team,
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: can you at least spend to the cap? Like and
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: it's not it just this is why, Like DeAndre Hopkins
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: is sitting out there, Like, how is DeAndre Hopkins not
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: a Patriot by now?
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  Speaker 2: Like what?
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: And if it's if it's if it's Hopkins, then I
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: can't blame them for the fact that Hopkins doesn't want
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: to come here, right, Like, I can't hold that against them.
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  Speaker 3: But if it's Bacon, if it's money, like if it's
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: like if it's a difference between a couple of million
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: on a contract, and then that's that's not a good look.
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  Speaker 4: I also wonder if he's not getting blown away. I
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: think he's just Fred said it early in the show.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: I think he's just content to wait it out and
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: wait till camp is here and he doesn't want to like.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Or camp is over.
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: I don't know if he'll wait all the way till
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  Speaker 4: camp is over, but I wouldn't be surprised if he
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: waits till camp starts.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: If he signs next week, and then he claims that
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: he needs two weeks to get his body right to
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: get up to speed, and then all surprised, we see
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: him joint practices in Green Bay for the first time.
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: Like that's sort of like hamstring.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah great, okay, well ahead, go to Will.
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  Speaker 2: He's been wining will Is in Arkansas? What's up? Will it?
• 58:44
  Speaker 9: Will?
• 58:45
  Speaker 12: Hey guys, y'all were talking a little bit about quarterback
• 58:50
  Speaker 12: talk game managers though raised on calling. It's you know,
• 58:54
  Speaker 12: not so much a former game manager, but former gun slinger.
• 59:00
  Speaker 12: I didn't get to colin last week. But huge props
• 59:03
  Speaker 12: of the team, Bill Tom and all the others for
• 59:07
  Speaker 12: the tributes for Ryan Mallett. Yeah, yep, yeah, I mean
• 59:14
  Speaker 12: it was you know, it was a whole shock for
• 59:17
  Speaker 12: the state and for me and other Patriot fans that
• 59:20
  Speaker 12: are fans of the Razorbacks. You know, it was really
• 59:25
  Speaker 12: a double whammy for us.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Had Ryan like gone does he do had he been
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: doing a lot in Arkansas? Like, had he gone back
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: and done stuff after his college days?
• 59:36
  Speaker 12: Yeah, a little bit after he got done playing with
• 59:40
  Speaker 12: the Ravens, he went to coaching. He was an assistant
• 59:43
  Speaker 12: coach at one High school last year was his first
• 59:49
  Speaker 12: year as a head coach, and another high school about
• 59:54
  Speaker 12: thirty miles south of Little Rock. You know, there was
• 59:57
  Speaker 12: you know, there were people cheering him on, wishing him well,
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  Speaker 12: and then they was having last week with the drowning,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 12: and you know, his player's assistants were just all horror
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 12: proven by the news. Yeah, just thirty five years old
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 12: and tough, you know, four years older than me. You know,
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  Speaker 12: I'm thirty one now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, thanks for the call.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and that's what a lot of the Patriots said
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: that he well, I think maybe Bill said it somewhere
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: that he always wanted to He always said he wanted
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: to be a coach, and that's exactly the path that
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: he was on.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 7: When you saw him at camp. Was that did his
• 1:00:39
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• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: He had a good arm? No, but did not Contrary
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: to Mike Mayock's statement one year, I he looked like
• 1:00:50
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• 1:00:52
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• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: had accuracy issues. But yeah, he could throw. I mean
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: he could definitely quote unquote make all the throws. But
• 1:01:08
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• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: the ones he had trouble making well the quote unquote
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: easier ones. It's like, you know the timing routes in
• 1:01:16
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• 1:01:20
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• 1:01:23
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• 1:01:27
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• 1:13:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 7: I well, I got away from it from a couple
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 7: of weeks, but I'm feeling pretty excited.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: I guess Jack Jones too. I can't forget that.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 7: Was there any more any more scuttle bit about that
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 7: because I kept seeing as people say that there might be.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: But this is not the time for me to go
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: on this random like stop believing everything that you read
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: on Twitter, Like, please like some random Twitter account that
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: claims that he writes for the Athletic and then like
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: people are like, oh, like, where did you read this?
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: And he shares a link that doesn't go to anywhere.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: It's like, can we just have a little bit of
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: effort to figure out if this person is actually a real.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 6: So what did that full person say.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: That the chargers against Jack Jones had been dropped? And
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: I got I had real life people DM ing me
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: on Twitter asking me if that was accurate.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well I had.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 7: I took four plane flights and every single time we
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 7: were going through security, my kids would look at like,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 7: they don't bring loaded guns into Big Dad.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 6: Look there it is.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: Well Johnson and Porter Lake Porter's Lake, Nova, Scotia. I
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: was listening to one of Paul's shows when they mentioned
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: the Jim Irsay collection coming to Boston. I'm not sure
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: the new Staffords would have as much insight as Paul
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: and Fred. Are you able to share any cool collectibles
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: that you've seen or heard about? Robert Kraft having Jim
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: Irsay has unbelievable collection of not just guitars, but other
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: stuff too, really, you know, like stuff from movies. And
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: he's a collector. He's a true collector. Spends a lot
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: of money, got a bunch of money. Yeah, and Robert.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's stuff he's collected, but stuff
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: he's been given. That car, he's got that ya blue.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: But he's got some cool stuff that's been given to
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: him as gifts, and none of them I can remember
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: right now. But I just know that he's got a
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: lot of a lot of cool stuff over the years
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: that has been given to him.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you got any cool stuff, Paul, No.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: He was asking if Fred and I might know things
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: that Robert has. I just let Fred answer that because
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: I would not be privy to that the way Fred.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 6: Is, no one ever gave you a Bentley or anything.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: Paul.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: I always like chance he stuck you, remember, Yeah, he's
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: actually the Baylor wide receiver coach coach Taekwon Thorton.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 7: Ah bring it all.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: To Chancy Stucky. I always liked him. Yeah, I don't
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: know what cool.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 6: He's like your Kiki Kuti guys.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: Oh, he's a lot better than Keith.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: What's the coolest thing that you own? Like of that
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: ilk deuce?
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: I don't have anything that's cool.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 6: I got to get your rings.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 7: I gotta think for a second.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 6: You're right, Yeah, some people might.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 7: I mean I do, I really might like my grandfather's
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 7: scrap books are pretty cool. Okay, I know that that's
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 7: not like a fancy thing, but there's a lot of
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 7: really cool history in those and stuff.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 6: So that's that's one.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 7: I found a random like bullet musket and like a
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 7: sandpit growing up, and I always thought that was kind
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 7: of cool. I mean I'm talking like, you know, average people,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 7: things like I found an artifact in a sand pit
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 7: once and I collected it, but not a lot. I
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 7: mean I got some some old family stuff, but that's
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 7: about it.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: Nothing but about you. But I imagine you have some
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: cool things. Yeah.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: I have a lot of.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: Sports memorabilia stuff. I was really into that as as
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: a kid. So for like presence, like for birthdays and
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: stuff like that, I would I would ask for a
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: lot of that kind of stuff. My my grandfather has.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: You know that he passed down to me when he
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: passed away, an autographed Joe DiMaggio picture that's like one
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: in a thousand or something like that. So that one
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: is worth like a little bit of something, not like
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: millions of dollars, but like you know, maybe a thousand
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: or something like that.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: Probably more real collector.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's worth a little something, and then I
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: have some things that were gifted to me, like I
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: have a game used David Ortiz and Manny Ramirez bat
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: like the actor actual bat that they use in the game,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: and you know stuff like like kind of stuff like that.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: But the Demaggio thing is the is the rarest thing
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: in that house.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 7: I know somebody who has in jac ass and game ball.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, jeez.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I have a Gil Hodges autograph I got when
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: I was like six years old that I can't find
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: right now. He was the manager of the Mets. He
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: came into my father's hardware store when I was like six.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: Football autographed by our Steve Grogan. Yeah that my dad
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: wanted an auction.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 7: Everybody's got a Bobby or autograph, right like you're just
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 7: issued those and you're born here in Boston.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: I actually had his book and he signed it.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 6: Mother got it for me. That was that was the
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 6: VIP package.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: When you do you have your Hall of Fame ring
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: still from b U No got rid of it.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 6: Just the bust. They did a bust of them. What
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 6: do you have from that certificate? It's right next to
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 6: his game like a little plaque.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: You got a plaque I do not have it with
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: my gambling certification.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 6: Hall of Fame took a test.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: So it's funny because the listeners might find that kind
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: of interesting.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: I always sort of make that comment, like I have
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: my I took the course that we had everybody is
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: required to take, and that's kind of gotten into the
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: news lately, all these players getting caught.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: And Jonathan was it Jonathan Jones that said, you know,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: we put our body in the line, but.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 6: One of the one of the time, like somebody.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: Can sit him down and explain to him all the
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: bad things that can.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: Happen, like maybe on the week that you don't bet
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: on your team.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: Exactly, or if you get in the hole a lot
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: and you start chasing and then it, you know, someone
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: makes you an offer, you know, like in that you know.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: Not Florio is like he makes a good point.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: Not a good point has.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: Been Florio has been on one.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, decided to dig up like an old bill quote.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: It was from the owners meetings as a mister craft
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: quote about cash spending from the owners meetings that he
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: then somehow resurfaces three months even Badard quote tweeted it
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: and was like this was three months old, Like I
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: don't know why.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's think about it this way. What if you
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: were a parent, It's like, you know, I'm gonna start
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: betting on my kids' grades in school. You know, like
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of motivation there to like do things
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: that you shouldn't be doing. You know, it's such a weird.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 7: I mean, we don't have to get into it, but
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 7: I mean the amount of money that pumped in this
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 7: league by those but.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I didn't mean to get off on that tangent.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: But you know I talk about, Yeah, I print out
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: those certificates just in case they check I have them.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, don't need it, don't you know?
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: I needed it because they said that I didn't complete.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: It wasn't gambling specific. It was part of the rest
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: of the training, but I had to certificate to show them.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: And I was like, right here, do you take it
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: out of the frame. Something must have happened. Yeah, must
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: have been a glitch.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I said, somebody needs to sit
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Jones down and explain to him why you can't
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: do it. You just can't. It's not a matter of
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: principle or unfairness. It's just not good.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: And I would just say, like, if things go in
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: credibly well and exceed all of your expectations, you're gonna
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: have a ten year career.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you can't wait ten years to bet.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: Right right, need the juice And if you truly can't wait,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: then you have a problem, and that's that's not good.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 7: And you could bet on other teams other sports outside
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 7: of the building.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: Right, Well, that's a weird part to me about the rule.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: So they can't bet on NFL games, which is obvious,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: but they can bet on NBA games as long as
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: they're outside the facility. But like a lot of I mean,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: we saw we were talking about that Michael Rubin fanatics party.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: Like a lot of these people run in similar circles, right,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: So like if they're thinking of betting on an NBA game,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: and like somebody on the Patriots Texas Jason Tatum and
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: is like, hey, like are you playing to night like
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: or what's going on?
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: So I don't understand how that's like inside and really
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: any different.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 6: That's probably why we can't.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: I can't. I can't believe that they are allowed to
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: bet on other sports. But I also would say in
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: the players defense, That's where I would go with the
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 4: Jonathan Jones side, Like, so you lose six games because
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: you put that bet in in the parking lot instead
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: of waiting till you got on Route one. Like that
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: doesn't seem right to me.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: That's Jameson Williams. Yeah, let's see about hop signing Hopkins.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: L from Wisconsin says, Mike is totally right. The team
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: needs a guy like Hopkins. However, that's been the case
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: since like twenty nineteen, and the team has really shown
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: no interest in adding someone there. I don't know if
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: they'll sign Hopkins, but the fact that he isn't here
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: means to me that they didn't prioritize going out and
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: getting him. I think they're fully okay letting him go
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: if a place like Tennessee is willing to go over
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: Bill's wide receiver value. Now, we can't forget two years
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: ago when they had that spending spree. I mean, you know,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: the guys didn't or haven't worked out yet, but they
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: but they signed spend a lot of money on Bagalore
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: and Parker last year. You know. So it's they have
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: signed wide receivers and it's just not the right big
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: money doing it.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: It's not big money though, Like they've signed wide receivers
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: at a certain level of wide receivers spend.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: It, right, But two years ago they they bought the
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: best guys on the market.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 6: Right, Well, I don't think debatable.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about free agent, not raids or anything like that.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, you're talking about Agalore and Borne. Yeah, I
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: don't think so.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: Who was better at the time that was available.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: Corey Davis was the best wide receiver available in.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: That class, the one that popped in my mind.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, to the masses, But the main point I was
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: making wasn't the certain Nelson Agilar got a two year,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: twenty two million dollar deal. Next year tyreek Kill is
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: going to get thirty million for one year, right So there,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: it's not top of the market money that they've spent.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: They've spent in the same the same bracket that they
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: always spend it, which is this middle tier six to
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: eleven million.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: Which I always complained about because they paid a lot
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 4: of money for Nelson Agalore. That was a lot Like
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 4: to me, that was a lot of money for him. Yeah,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 4: I would rather spend twice that on someone I think
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 4: is worth it, rather than a complimentary piece. That's where
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 4: I always get frustrated with, Like, that's why I always
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: push back at the people say they're cheap. I don't
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: think they're cheap. I think they spend their money in
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: a way that I wouldn't. They're so hell bent on
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: their roster construction that they won't deviate from it.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 6: They won't.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 4: They don't want Like, there's a reason why people like
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: Adam Schefter make those comments about Jujus Smith. Schuster is
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: the highest paid wide receiver in the run because they're
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: trying to establish what the hierarchy is and no one
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: can make more than X, and I think that's a
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: I don't want four guys making X. I want two
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: guys making X and two guys making way above that
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: X times three whatever that happens to be.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: Speing Fresdo on the issue, Mike and Evan mentioned earlier
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: that the Patriots have oodles of cap space in the
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: coming years owing to not paying for big time talent.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: I kind of have this belief that Bill thinks the
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: team's history of outrageous success is rooted mostly in the
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: strong middle classes, built more than it was based on Iran,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: more than it was based on the superhuman spackle. That
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: was Tom Brady. I don't think Bill sees it any
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: differently even to this day, and that's a big reason
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: the offensive roster is what it currently is. I see
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: that aspect of the GM's team building strategy as the
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: albatross in the room, quietly weighing the team down, amy
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: exaggerating the issue.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 7: Well, I would just bring up the draft because I think,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 7: you know, that's a way to get around all this,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 7: and you know, and sure we'd all be happy to
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 7: welcome DeAndre Hopkins here for you know whatever I mean
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 7: at this point with the cast space that they have.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 7: But I just think the real answer is not about
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 7: the lack of going out and spending a bunch of
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 7: money on a free agent. It's it's not drafting guys
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 7: that you can develop. And we all know the list
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 7: of that they passed up to take other different receivers.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 6: And YadA, YadA, YadA.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 7: But that I think that's to me, is where the
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 7: biggest problem is. I mean, it'd be a good problem
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 7: to have to be looking at Deebo Samuel and be saying,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 7: let's give him the contract. He's we drafted him, we
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 7: developed him, go for the moon. To pay him, and
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 7: it's just it's hard to imagine that, say Nikhil Harry
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 7: was a superstar, that Nikil Harrey would still be here,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 7: you know, like like they would probably ride him for
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 7: all he was worse.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 4: That's my biggest problem. If taekwon, Thoughton rips it up
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: the next three next three years, you think they're resigning
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: him right on top of the market.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 6: I don't think they're resigning anybody, Like who do you like?
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 7: I mean, we like Dugart absolutely, but after that love
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 7: that email, the next one it's it's it's you got
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 7: all this money and no one to spend it on.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 6: It feels like unless you do another twenty twenty one.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: And to Fred's point, it's it's risky. Not all those
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: guys are going to work out. A couple probably will,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: but not all of them. But it's such a good
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: point about their their draft strategy is in the short term,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: they don't really draft receivers high, like taekwond in draft
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: gets drafted fiftieth overall, and then they don't draft a
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: receiver this year until the sixth round because they don't
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: want to spend at the top of the draft in
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: terms of draft capital. Again on that position, but then
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: they also probably won't spend on on Taekwon Thorton in
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: four years if he ends up being a good player.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: So it's like, you have to have one. You gotta,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: you gotta at some point, you gotta, you gotta pony
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: up some somewhere, either with a first round draft pick
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: or with money, Like there has to be something going
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: to that position to move the needle.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: Especially today's NFL Willhelm and Philam on the Ace ticket houtline.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: What's up, William?
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 21: What's going on for how you're doing all right?
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 7: Uh?
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 21: Is there interference or anything?
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 12: Uh?
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 21: Your podcast.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 6: And there's not even any beating today.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know, are you hearing?
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: At the very beginning of the show, we had a
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 4: little bit of an audio issue, but that was cleared
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: up immediately.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 21: When you when you're talking whatnot? Is it seem like
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 21: it's just a little bit interferencing and everything players up after.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 12: That it isn't.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know, okay, But other.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 21: Than that, my question question for Evan, So Evan, how
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 21: much did we give Antonio Brown? How much did I'm sorry,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 21: how much did Bill Belichick give Antonio Brown?
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: That was a nice contract. That they gave Antonio Brown.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: I thought it was nine million.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't remember it off the top of my head,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: but it was. It was a decent amount of money.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 21: Okay. So with that, and also with Paul saying they
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 21: overpaid for Nelson Aguilar, Sam Hockey, he's sitting there. I mean,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 21: I don't I'm just like you, Evan. I don't understand
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 21: you got you sitting on sixteen mil million? Why I
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 21: don't understand why you ain't signing? What are you waiting for?
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 21: Because if he gets picked up, you that's it?
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: Why? That's it? Am I?
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: Am I right? Saying that there is an offer out there.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 4: I would assume that I do not know that.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: So if he agreed to the offer today, they signed him.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: But obviously the offer is not big enough where he say,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: all right, he's gonna jump.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: But you're saying makes sense, I do not know that
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: for one.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like I think they would sign him
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: if he would take the offer. But right now, the
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: offer isn't enough to make him move, right.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: But I think people like Mike and Evan are of
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 4: the mindset, like, make the offer that you know he'll take, Well,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: that's it. Like you need this guy.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 7: But if you know that he's his thinking is I'm
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 7: gonna wait till camp. Do you still make the offer
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 7: now and let him sit on it? Or do you
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 7: hold back on the offer until you know he wants
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 7: When we.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: Want to tell you what the Red Sox would do
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: and the Patriots have done in the past, why do
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 4: we want to do what the Red Sox and the
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 4: and the Patriots have done in the past with a
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: couple of guys. Yesterday's offer ain't today's offer. So you
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: want to wait till training camp?
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it's see what happens. Yeah, I just I
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: never would have let let him leave the building quite honestly.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 21: So true. Just one more question, real and I'm out
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 21: your way to do to you always stay the draft.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 21: I agree with you, it was I really do. Okay,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 21: it's just look at look at their history, the drafting receivers.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 21: I don't find this steward. This is the only team
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 21: that can just, you like, fit up when it comes
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 21: to a received I don't understand why y'all can't identify.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 21: It's like it's kryptonite to the Patriots for some reason.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 21: I don't I don't know, I.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 4: Know it's it's true because that's what that's one of
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: the only positions that these young guys leave here and
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 4: they don't do anything anywhere else. There's a lot of
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: positions that they draft, you know, whether the mid round picks,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: late round picks. You know, you see some promises, you know,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 4: guys catch on elsewhere they receive, like like Taylor Price,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 4: Nikhil Harry, Aaron Dobson, Brandon Tate, like these guys with
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 4: Josh boy really Josh Boyce, and I like I liked boys.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 4: I did, I like boys, but none of those guys
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 4: ever went somewhere up. So it's not even like you
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 4: could say, well it's a development problem, like they're not
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 4: developing the receivers. No, they're picking the wrong ones. They're
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 4: not doing anything anywhere else either.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 7: And it's funny like not to like put too much,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 7: but I mean, you know, I followed the draft when
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 7: I was Patriots blogger boy and pomp palm ware and
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 7: doing all that stuff. And even then it was like
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 7: Aaron Dawson, like Nikhil.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: Harriet, like like even that guy that blogger like it.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: Was it was scratch. It's just over the years, it's
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: just been too much going against rain Jermaine cunning Hand,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: things like that. It's just overthinking it.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, and it's like if you're gonna, I
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 7: don't know, there's just been so many you can go
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 7: back and rewrite it and you know, say they could
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 7: have had this, they could have had that. But like
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 7: it just it doesn't seem that hard to look at
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 7: a J. Brown and Deebo Samuel and say, these guys
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 7: pit exactly the kind of what they tell us they want, tough,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 7: versatile players that don't.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: Don't get me started about debo.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's not hard.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 7: And I mean even you know, the guys who should
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 7: be like I love every pick were like, really, like
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 7: that doesn't seem like you're kind of guy, Like that
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 7: doesn't seem what I just there's been so many of those,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 7: like like you said, I mean, on both sides of
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 7: the ball, but but specifically the receiver. It's hard to
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 7: remember the last time they drafted a wide receiver that
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 7: you were like, Oh, this guy's going to be good,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 7: this is what they need. Like even Thornton, You're like, Okay,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 7: that doesn't really seem like they're kind of guy though He's.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: When they drafted when they drafted Thornton, I was like,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: so he ran a four two eight and you drafted
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 3: him the second round like that needed because because his
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: film was not I mean, he had good stats at
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: Baylor his last year there, I think almost put up
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: like a thousand yards in their offense and was a
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 3: productive player. But he was a productive player because he
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: ran away from everybody at the college level. Right it's
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: his wide open game and he runs his four two eight.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: It's just basically like running one hundred meter and he's
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: and he's the fastest guy on the field. But he
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: his route running was raw in college. Like his ability
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: to really break down and get open at the top
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: of the route and do all those things was was
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: a developmental project to begin with. And then you add
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: on top of their their failures in the draft of
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: that position, you're like, so you drafted a developmental receiver
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: which you can't develop, So like forget about Like, you know,
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: I know everybody, George Pickens is like the one that
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: everybody's like, well, why didn't they draft George Pickens? But
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: there was also guys, you know, like Alex Pierce, who's
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: had a decent rookie season with Indianapolis, Like these were
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: guys were finished, Like they were like finished more finished
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: products coming in, you know, and they had some more
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: polished to them and some more experience. And it was like,
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: if you can't develop the position, then you at least
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: go for the high floor guy, like and you at
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 3: least just get a guy that can play right and
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: like forget about trying to chase the four two eight
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: speedster ceiling type players. And but I will say, like
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: to be fair to them, there's also like a little
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: bit of a chicken or the egg situation with the
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: draft of that they don't really use very many high
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: picks on receivers. So you know, it's.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: As we know, is that's why Nikhil Harry was such
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: a bust. I mean, they finally did and they picked
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: the wrong one, you know.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: I mean I think, yeah, but even him is just
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: thirty second overall. Like it's not like they drafted him
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: in the top ten, right, So my point is you
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: know that they don't you have to be fair in
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: the fact that they're near the bottom of the league
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: in like first round picks, top fifty picks, top one
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: hundred picks use at that position. They just don't value it.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: They just don't value it. And we might all we
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: valuated a ton or I valuated a ton, and maybe
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 3: like they're right and I'm wrong about it. But I
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: just look at the rest of the league, like I
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: look at what the other teams are doing, and what
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: the other teams value and what they see and at
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: their receiver position, and they are all skewing towards throwing
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: every single asset at possible draft picks, money, whatever to
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: get those guys in the building. And the Patriots just don't.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: They just don't see it as an important like investment.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: Dan and Virginia and Michigan. Uh, to hark back to
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: an old PFW argument. Given the definition you've just given
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: of a game manager quarterback, compare and contrasts the relative
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: skill levels of a game manager quarterback and a journeyman quarterback.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 4: Journeyman's are a lot of teams.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, journeyman's aren't. They're not as good.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 7: They're usually game managers who just can't really share a
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 7: starting job.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 4: And that is both a game manager and a journeyman, right, perfect.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: And I mean and Jimmy Garoppolo is slowly.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 7: Becoming a game manager and a journeyman, like you know,
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 7: it's third team now.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but he never played for the Patriots, so like
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 4: that one doesn't really but like yeah, like I think
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 4: once you start bouncing around from team to team, but.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 6: Those are the guys, right, I mean, that's what you
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 6: want to back up quarterback.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 7: You want a guy who's smart, who's not going to
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 7: come in and throw terrible, you know, picks and make
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 7: bad decisions and it's just gonna you know, keep things
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 7: steady for.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: A little while.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Like, like Brian Hoyer is a journeyman if there
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 7: ever was one, right, but not a game manager now
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 7: because he doesn't play, doesn't.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: He didn't manage it, doesn't manage well, yeah, game managers
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: don't throw picks.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 6: But that's kind of what you thought.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: I mean that's when you when you know they kept
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: bringing him back.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 7: You're like, well, he knows the system and he'll come
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 7: in and he's not gonna you know, go crazy and
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 7: lose his mind out there.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 6: And I mean he went crazy and lost his mind.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: But uh, let's see. Ricardo from Italy a big fan
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: of the show. After the Juwan Bentley extension, what do
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: you think of his future as a Patriot and what
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: are you are your expectations in the coming season four him.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 7: He'll keep signing two year incentive lative deals until he retires.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I think he's a good thing.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 4: It's been.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 7: I just I would say Jawan Bentley can play on
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 7: my team anytime. Like that guy, the way, the way
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 7: he talks, the way he plays, the way he prepares.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's just he does everything right.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 7: And I I, like I said at the top, I
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 7: just I'm surprised that I think it would have been
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 7: more impactful to me if they had signed him to
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 7: a four year deal two years ago than to two
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 7: year deals back to back where it just seems like
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 7: they're kind of kicking the can down the road. It
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 7: just signals this is a guy we love, we want
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 7: him here for the long term.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: When Palm constructs his team, Bentley's on it because he's
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: a good guy. Yeah yeah, well me yeah, solid guy.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 6: Plus he can play.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 4: I don't think what the good guys that can't play.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: I think he fills the roles tough.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 7: He's hard, nos, And I mean I think like this
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 7: kind of goes to what Evan was saying too, is
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 7: like I just I think they really value, for right
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 7: or wrong, they value toughness, like that's like the element
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 7: that we want to beat teams up. We want to
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 7: draft Nikhil Harry. He's a big guy. He's going to
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 7: be a tough, physical matchup. I don't think that they
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 7: value speed and explosiveness as much as we want to
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 7: physically manhandle teams. And I don't know if that's a
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 7: direct kind of correlation to the league evolving into smaller,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 7: faster guys and we want to be the big beast.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: But I still think his two thousand and four right well.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 7: And I mean, and even a team like Tennessee that
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 7: I feel like has executed that as actually executed that
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 7: game plan where they've had a big, you know, tough
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 7: team with good lines and you know, but they have
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 7: a J. Brown and they have Derrick Henry who gives
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 7: their whole team that personality. I feel like the Patriots
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 7: kinda flirt with it, like, yes, they have some big
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 7: guys who are tough, but I don't feel like they're
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 7: overwhelmingly tough that they can just I mean, against the
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 7: bad teams.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 6: It's sure works.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 7: It seems like that philosophy is great when you're playing
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 7: a team that you know is sub half of the
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 7: of the of the of the league. You know, usually
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 7: they're able to have their way with those teams, maybe
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 7: not necessarily you know, physically overwhelming them, but I just
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 7: that's it seems like that's what they're invested in, is
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 7: toughness and that kind of guy.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: They just their system defensively needs the type of player
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: that Jawan Bentley is at the at the middle linebacker
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: position because they play a so much odd front where
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: the b gap bubble, like the area over the guard
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: is uncovered, so the guard is free right, so he
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: can he can combo, he can pull, and there's nobody's
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: in the in the gap over him to threaten. So
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 3: that means that that guard is now always going up
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 3: to the second level of the defense. So if you
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: can't have if you don't have a two hundred and
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: fifty pounds sledgehammer that can take on the guard, then
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: you're getting bowling pins right or you're just getting run
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: over all the time. So if they don't have that player,
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: and he is one of the best space compressors in
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 3: the league, like just press the block, hold the gap,
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 3: and play fundamentally sound in that role, that there is.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: He's I understand, like I said earlier, that he's not
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: the sideline to sideline guy. He's not going to chase
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 3: down Josh Allen. He's not gonna, you know, drop twenty
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: yards into coverage and make a play on the football.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: But for what they really need him to do that
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: allows them to be, you know, multiple with the safeties,
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 3: that allows them to play an Adrian Phillips at the
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 3: second level at two hundred and twenty pounds, is because
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: they have a guy like Benley who's essentially like in
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 3: most cases, like a fifth defensive lineman and really in
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: reality and that's that's an important role in their defense.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 3: So I think Juwan Bentley personally. Drive Mayo said it
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: last year that he thinks that he's one of the
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: more underrated linebackers reason in the league, and I really
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 3: think he is.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: Kyle and Pembroke, including last season in Jack Jones, there's
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: been a lot of negativity surrounding the team. However, I'm
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: wondering what positives you guys see and what gives you
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: hope about the team. For me, I'm happy with the
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: past couple of draft classes and I can't wait to
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: see how they impact the team now that we have
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: quality coaches.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Gonzalez, you know, key On White, very curious about
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 7: keo On White, how how he turns out the young guys.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's what it is. I go back
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 6: to the draft.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 7: How are these young guys progressing? Are they going to
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 7: take the next step? I just that's the only way
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 7: I really see out of the doldrums of the AFC
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 7: East is to you know, develop these draft picks and
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 7: really have them become elite players that they will then
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 7: hopefully resign.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're not excited about your draft class before
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 4: they played, yeah, I agree with everything Mike just said,
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 4: but I haven't seen.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 6: They haven't played a game yet.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: Listen, I'm excited about the defense. I think there's some
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: pieces there. If they can play cohesively, I think they've
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: got something going. And then I'm excited to just see
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: what Bill O'Brien does with the offense and how it improves.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: If it improves, you know, Like I'm excited for the season.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not, like, you know, they're not going to make
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: the playoffs, So again I would say what happens, I'm sorry,
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: but like you're three weeks ahead of training, Cam, I
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: think yesterday was the three week mark.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 4: If you're not excited now, yeah, Like I don't know, like,
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 4: are you alive? Do you care about football?
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: Like people like some people are like dreading it. You're like, oh,
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: well that's a different thing. That's worked, okay, So.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 4: But in terms of the season, I don't know how
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 4: you can. But if you're an NFL fan, I don't
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 4: know how you cannot be excited in all thirty two cities.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: Right, Why dread it?
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 14: Like?
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, so what if they're not good? Is it going
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: to really kill you? Is it?
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 4: You know, catch the ball kid?
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: I just just have a good time with it. It's sports.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 3: I totally have the itch. I'm going crazy over here.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 7: Oh I'm glad my vacation's over and now and it's
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 7: going to be just a slow burn and to get
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 7: into it. But I mean, I think to Freend's point
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 7: to it's it's it's really just what does what does
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 7: this offense look like?
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 6: Like you know, I and you know, one of the.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 3: Callers said last year was was really rough.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 7: On MAC and you know, and I agree, and I
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 7: want to see, all right, what's it look like now?
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 7: He's got an offensive coordinator. It seems like they all
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 7: know what they're doing. They're all on the same page
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 7: right now. So now they have to execute, and you
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 7: know it's you're gonna get some good joint practices against
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 7: a couple you know, interesting teams, especially Green Bay they
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 7: got you know, good defense.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 6: They're gonna both those teams got good defense. It's real
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 6: good front.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 7: So you know, we're gonna get a good sense in
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 7: the in the summer of what'sok what's cooking on offense?
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I can't wait to see Bill O'Brien, Like
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 3: that's to me, that's the one. And I think, you know,
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 3: just listening to him talk and watching you know, his
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 3: film and from his past stops and things like that,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 3: like you just can see the the the brain right,
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 3: like you see that this is like a real offensive guru.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 3: Like this is a guy that understands offensive.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: But if like you know, you come out of the
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: gate and after week three like wow, Coast Range, it's clicking. Now, Yeah,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: I mean that's great, you know, second year guy. No,
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: but like but at least you're like, Okay, they picked
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: this guy in the first round and he's going to
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: be a good player.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 3: Well, everybody thought he was good last year.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 4: So proves my point about first round offensive lineman. They
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 4: can just basically exist.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 3: They're not he gotched three times, but sorry.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 4: As long as they exist through the season, they're not
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 4: a bust.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: Brian and Petucket, speaking of game managers and journeymen, Ryan
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: Fitzpatrick was the rare journeyman that was definitely not a
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: game manager.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: That's a good point.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he was kind of.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I want to I want to go back
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 4: to these kinds of time, so I know that no
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 4: one cares, but I love these things. Just because you're
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 4: a journeyman doesn't make you a game manager. Now, they're
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 4: not mutually exclusive. You can be a game manager and
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 4: a journeyman. And I would say if Kirk Cousins goes
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 4: to a third team journeyman, he's right there for both.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 16: Right.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 4: But yeah, no one would ever call Ryan Fitzpatrick's a
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 4: game manager. It's a good example, but he's been on
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 4: more team than anybody. He's definitely a journeyman three these teams.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: He's Brett Fav's worst marketing.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: Brendan and Clinton question for Evan, do you know.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 4: How many games under five hundred. Ryan Fitzpatrick is for
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 4: a season for his career, That's my point. And you
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 4: think that's Brett Farv.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 6: How many losing seasons and Brett Farv half one.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 3: I'm just messing.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 6: I like the line, though I might steal it.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 4: He's spread off with the worst marketing.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: I might steal that question for Evan. You stated, by
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: the way, was interrupted Ryan Fitzpatrick at Wimbledon the other day.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: I think I know, I think I saw Ryan Fitzpatrick.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 3: I mean mean Moran.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: Conn stated the Parker extension makes it less likely to
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: sign Hopkins. If that's true, than who in your eyes
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: has filled agal or spot. I feel the opposite. I
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: think the Marker signing helps the Hopkins sign it does neither.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 4: Never elevant.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 3: I just said, I don't know where that's coming from,
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 3: honestly as I can.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we never broach that topic last week that it
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 4: had really much of a bearing either way.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: And last, can Eldrick stop calling with basically the same
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: comments on every call? Bill can coach but he can't GM.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: If he's so bad at GM, explain why he's the
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: only GM to get the team to ten Super Bowls
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: with six wins in twenty years because coachs couldn't do
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: it with papers. So don't claim off with successes because
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: of Tom Brady. He's the most successful coach in GM
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: in this era of the league, and you think he sucks.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: Most teams would kill to get to one Super Bowl
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: in ten years. We get it. And you don't like
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: Bill as a GM as a regular caller, why not
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: bring something new to the table.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 6: I would just talk to you.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 4: If Bill Belichick was as equally adept as a coach
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 4: as he is as a GM, he would not have
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 4: gone to ten Super Bowls even with Tom Brady.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 7: I'm trying to put that.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 4: If he was the same level of coach as he
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 4: is a GM, he would not have gone to ten
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 4: Super Bowls.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: He would have gone to more, saying he would be
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: a bad coach.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, I was the other way around.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 4: You got it.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 6: I got it. I took I.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: Honestly. You know, we talked about like being ahead being
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: the CEO in the NFL, meaning a head coach with
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: all the power, And to me, that's one of Bill's
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: things that I'm I'm most impressed about is the fact
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: that he is the head coach. He is the GM.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: He controls everything, and he's been able to keep it
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: together for as long as he has. That's to me,
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: that's his That's a huge accomplishment. Besides the winning. That's
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: not easy to do to to be in control of
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: the whole thing and and it and it doesn't spin
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: out of control like in many other teams, you know,
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: with the with the internal squabbles and the entitlement that
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: comes with winning, and and players wanting more money and
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: and all that which which happens on every team. And
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: he's been in you know it has it happened here here, yes,
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: But he's controlled it. And to me, that's huge that
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: he's been able to.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 3: Do that he has built because I take as many
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 3: shots that build the GM as anybody, including Eldred, But
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 3: he has built a ridiculously stable program. Like the program
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 3: like just talking about it.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: I give Crass credit for that too, but Brady get
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: any of that credit. But you know, like like the callers,
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: like the email has said, you know, the colt said,
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: Peyton Manning And they didn't win six super Bowls.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 4: But they won, but they did the same thing. They
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 4: were consistently a Super Bowl contender every year. Yeah, from
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 4: Brady's second. I mean Manning second year on, they did
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 4: the same thing. I the Patriots were better. That's why
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 4: they didn't win six Super Bowls.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: You know, maybe if Belichick was with Manning then they
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: would have been I don't know, but I give Belichi
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: Check all the credit in the world for managing the
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: team and constructing. Like Evan said, you know or you know,
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: I give Brady a system that is just it's endured
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: over twenty years.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 4: And you know, when you can voucher me on this,
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 4: I've changed on this. I was with Fred, Yeah, I
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 4: was with Fred ten years ago.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 3: But cam'p both things be true, though, right, yep, because
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 3: I think that with Brady, Brady made the system excel
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 3: to the level that it excelled at. And this is
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 3: my biggest current gripe with Bill is that he's still
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 3: operating the ship like he has Brady and he doesn't
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 3: have Brady.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 4: But come to find out, he wasn't operating the ship
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 4: in any particular way because he had Brady. That's the
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 4: way he operated the ship. Yeah, right, and it happened
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 4: to be. It happened to work. In my opinion, again,
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 4: I'm revision is history. I was wrong on this I've
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 4: changed my mind on this. I think it worked because
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 4: Brady was just that good.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: Right, But that's sort of my point is that when
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 3: you have a quarterback at Brady's level, you can make
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 3: these little decisions below him, and you can these guys
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 3: are become sort of interchangeable, right like everybody else sort
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 3: of just becomes interchangeable, and they're they're in the right order,
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 3: and like you can make a roster out of the
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 3: middle class, because Brady's gonna take a really good one
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 3: through fifty three middle class roster and win twelve thirteen
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 3: games with it.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 4: And that's what he did. When you interchange with the
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 4: wrong replacement, it didn't matter because he overcame it in
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 4: my In my opinion, you're seeing him interchange with the
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 4: wrong players too often. Now, what you guys are talking
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 4: about about replacing guys in the draft and getting a receiver,
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 4: that's what didn't matter when you had him. But I
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 4: don't think he was doing it because I have Brady,
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 4: he'll make it work. I think he was doing because
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 4: he thinks that's the way to do it, right.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I just but I just feel like, isn't comparing
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 7: a head coach and a quarterback kind of apples to
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 7: Orange is when you're trying to divvy up credit for
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 7: things like.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 4: That, it's silly to radio, you know, Like that's what
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 4: I'm hearing, Like.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 7: You can still be the greatest head coach of all
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 7: time and you had a great player, Like it doesn't
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 7: mean that you know that it was that the credit
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 7: was equal. I don't know if if the two would
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 7: have happened without either one of them, but you know,
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 7: saying that that Brady was largely responsible for a lot
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 7: of it, you know, the great majority of it. You know,
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 7: it doesn't necessarily have to be a slight at Bill,
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 7: Like it's still he's still an excellent right coach and he's.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 4: Established and like I said, it's just one of my
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 4: sorry to take us out of, but I totally agree.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 4: And this is why it's like when Evan says, you know,
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 4: it's can it be a little bit of Absolutely The
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 4: true answer is they needed each other, right, I mean,
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 4: that's the great But I would have just told you
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 4: that three or four years before the end of Brady.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 4: I was strongly in Fred will Vouchman this. I was
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 4: strongly in that it's more about Bill, it's the discipline,
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 4: it's the consistency, it's everything that he does to put
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 4: it all together. That's why they're as good as they are.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 4: And you know, as Brady kept winning, I think less
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 4: like that nineteen team was not very good, and here
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 4: they are, you know, they winning twelve games again and whatever.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 4: And then to see what Brady eight no team ever
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 4: to see what Brady did when he left, Like I've
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 4: kind of like had my eyes opened a little bit.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 4: I think I was short changing Brady.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 6: A little bit.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 4: Not necessarily. I don't have anything to Bill. I think
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 4: I short changed I think, you know, and I've come around.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: I think for a lot of people, their appreciation of
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: Brady went over the top after he left, and they
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: you appreciate sometimes you appreciate something when you don't have
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: it more. And I think that's that's what happened with Brady.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 2: Happened to Douce, Yeah, I mean he showed like he
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: goes to this new team and immediately wins the Super Bowl.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 3: I just think, like the whether like divving up credit,
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 3: I don't really care about. My whole thing is just
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: like where they're going now, and he's still operating like
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 3: he has Brady like he's still making the same roster
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 3: decisions that he would always make. I can criticize him
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 3: for a lot, but he's one thing is he's consistent, right,
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 3: Like he just does the same thing all every single time.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 3: We talked about those sixteen free agents earlier with high
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 3: Tower and Chandler, Kyle Duggar, josh Uja, Mikeel Like, it's
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 3: the same conversation that you guys had five years ago,
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 3: six years ago, seven years ago with those guys, and
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 3: at some point you have to recognize that you can't
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 3: build the roster the same way. And he hasn't changed
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 3: that philosophy. He's still sticking to the same plan when
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 3: he doesn't have the guy at the top that was
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 3: making it all, pulling it all together, and that.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 4: He thinks he's the guy who pulls it all together.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's it, Like maybe that realization is it. But
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 3: I just think that they something has to give in
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 3: that respect. Either he has to come to terms with
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 3: the fact that he can't win at a high level
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 3: doing it the same way because he's never going to
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 3: get another Tom Brady, or they need to move on
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 3: from mac Jones and go looking for the next Tom Brady.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 3: There's no that. That's that's the sticking point.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 4: Be interesting to see how that.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: Let's go back to the a sticking outline. Eric's in Virginia.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: Hey Eric, Eric, Hey, how a y'all doing this afternoon? Okay?
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 22: Here, Hey first time color. I just want to say
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 22: big fans of the show, thanks you. Any quick question though,
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 22: you know, all over like Reddit and Twitter and stuff,
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 22: you know, you got Robert Kraft out here saying, hey,
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 22: money's ever been an issue? And kind of what Evan's
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 22: been saying, Like, you know, Bill is operating on this like, hey,
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 22: we're like a poor team. I'm gonna try to save
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 22: the money as best I can. It's just kind of
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 22: like I'm confused on what these two are doing with
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 22: each other. It's like, hey, I get it, like Robert,
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 22: you know, he's kind of reaching the end of the
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 22: line here towards the end a couple of years God did,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 22: and he's like ready to spend money. So what's like,
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 22: I guess my question is like I wonder what's it
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 22: gonna take? Is it gonna I mean, I don't want
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 22: to be one of those guys and say, hey, push
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 22: Bill out. It's been a great twenty years. It's been
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 22: a blast, and I don't want him to go. I
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 22: want him to build go on its own terms. But
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 22: kind of what Evan's been saying is like, why are
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 22: we operating like this? You've got the money, Let's take
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 22: a risk. Yeah, I think this off the line, but
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 22: I just want to say thank y'all. And a real
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 22: quick thing too, is I have a three year old
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 22: who rides in my car and I always put the
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 22: podcast on. I really do appreciate y'all, not like you know,
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 22: customer a whole while as a parent, I can keep that.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: Show on my way try my.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 4: Two co hosts. Evidently Eric hates me.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I see, you know I And that comment from
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 2: Robert Kraft puts Bill under pressure, you know from the fans, like, well,
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: the owner doesn't care about spending, and so you know,
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: why doesn't Bill just overpay and get all the best players.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: You know, it's easy to say. It's easy to say,
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: and I do think we've talked about it before. Bill
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: does worry about the locker room and and the pecking
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: order of of what people make. And I know that.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: You know, when Brady was here, you know, maybe for
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: an instant you could be making a little bit more,
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: but no one could make more than Tom Brady. You know,
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: that's just not once he got his second, his third country, Yeah,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: that that just wasn't gonna fly. And that's and that's
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 2: how Bill kind of you know, level the play, you know,
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: set the standard. Again, he gets the most and everybody
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: that guy right who was willing to take less.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 7: Who everyone in the locker room easily acknowledges it, right,
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 7: And he's.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 4: Not making, you know, an outrageous amount. So someone could
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 4: be second, third, fourth to him but still making a
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 4: lot of money, right, he was making an average amount
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 4: for what he could have been making.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So now it's it's you know, like so how
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: does Bill set that standard? Now, Like who's the guy
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 2: that he's going to be the top of our mack.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 4: Jud you know, set it on that thirty thirteen. So
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 4: that's another thing that a lot of concerns.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: So Bill sets this artificial she'll you know, governor on himself.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: Like so what if how if somebody comes in and
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 2: makes a little bit more than judea on JUDEO is
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 2: gonna get over it?
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 4: You know, and if he's changing economics in the league,
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 4: right when you have to recognize that the highest paid
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 4: player one year, the next year it's not even close.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: Right, So I mean that stuff, you know, you have
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: to deal with that, you know, and I that's one
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: of the problems right now. Now. I on the other hand,
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 2: like even though Robert Kraft says that, I don't think
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: Bill can just go and say, oh, we're gonna, you know,
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: give Hopkins twenty two million dollars just to get it done. Now,
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 2: that's where I think Robert would say, whoah, you know,
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 2: everything we have from our you know, uh, scouts and
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: everything says he's not worth even close to that money.
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  Speaker 2: So you're not gonna waste money like that. So it's
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  Speaker 2: it's just, you know what, there's a leveling there. But
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: it's it's tough Bill. Bill always is worried about that
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: locker room, you know, uh pecking what.
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  Speaker 7: I would I'd buy into it more too. If there
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 7: had been players that they could have retained, had they
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 7: paid them, that would have been impact star players that they.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 6: Just let walk.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't really see those players, you know, Like
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 3: it's they.
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  Speaker 7: Just haven't had a lot of talent, they haven't really
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 7: had internal people to spend that money on.
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  Speaker 6: And to me.
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  Speaker 7: That's the that's the original sin, not just hey, oh
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 7: that gets back to your taking team. Like it's like
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 7: if you had oh my god, I mean and you know,
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  Speaker 7: probably people would say, well, you could have paid Brady
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 7: and you know that's you know, sure, but who who
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 7: did you draft that you let go that you I mean,
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 7: you guys brought.
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  Speaker 6: Up Collins and high Time.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I remember one hundred percent being on that debate,
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 7: and I was, you know, for right or wrong.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 6: I was on Jamie Collins.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 7: That was like I said, this is an athletic next
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 7: generation linebacker. I love Dante high Tower. But that was
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 7: my feeling at the time. And you know, meanwhile, they
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 7: let him walk.
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  Speaker 2: He came back twice, but he really wasn't that guy.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 3: He really wasn't that guy.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: He was kind.
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  Speaker 7: Him right and and in the end, it probably you know,
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 7: worked out the way it should have. I mean, I
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 7: I guess I would have maybe said I could have
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 7: it worked out terribly for Trey Flowers in Detroit after
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 7: we left here.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 6: But I felt like he was a player that.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 7: Maybe you could have retained, that maybe could have still
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 7: been here and still been you know, an impact player
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 7: on the edge.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 6: But outside of.
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  Speaker 3: Him, Like, who did you have that you let go
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 3: that you didn't.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 6: Want to pay.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 4: They definitely had that fifteen sixteen seventh, Like there was
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 4: a I don't know exactly when it started, but there was.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 6: A down period in the draft.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they weren't getting any players right.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: Right right, and that set them back. It set them
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 2: bash already a first show back. It went by in
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 2: a flash, you know. That set them back. So I
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: don't know, I don't I don't know what the answer is,
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 2: but find out in three to your point, they've got it.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 2: They've got a draft better, you know, so that they
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 2: get put themselves in a position where they have to
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 2: make a decision of extending guys because they're that good,
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 7: And then and then if they don't extend them, then
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 7: it's like, yeah.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 3: They're not doing Like well, that's how I feel about
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 3: the twenty twenty guys, Like Douggar is an extendable player,
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 3: Like there's no excuse to not so.
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 2: We'll see what they do with him, you know. Yeah,
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: but prior to those drafts, they didn't really have guys
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: that were worthy of it.
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 3: Like if we had just retained Sony Michelle, it would
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 3: all have been fine.
• 1:59:11
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