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Ep 173 - Shough Signs His Deal + Training Camp Begins · Saints Block Party Podcast

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[SPEAKER_01]: Last night, no music, no intro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Slain's Black Party podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Adam joined with Ryan aka Wolf.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And up we are this Monday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: July, twenty first.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're training camp, Eve.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Football is back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Great rules.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all I have to say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The faints, rookies and veterans report to training camp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tomorrow, a lot of players are already in New Orleans because UFC, I was over the weekend, so a lot of players are people already in New Orleans anyway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm enjoying nice little, I don't know, some not great white wine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to make a mix drink, didn't have time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, why don't you win?
1:00
[SPEAKER_01]: It's good man.
1:01
[SPEAKER_01]: You check that WXL?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, but our dude Maurice who's coming to first SPP meet up for our Patriots game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Make sure you are watching us on YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Please like and subscribe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks.
1:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Maurice, I saw him post a picture of it this weekend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was, he was like, Maurice was in his videos.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's breathing love it, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it white?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's white now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like different flavors.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, mango.
1:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it was cut like a mosquito and stuff like that.
1:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I like my super late.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, man, I drink a half a cup of like, sixteen percent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's flat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little home and it's black.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I might be sitting on that during during, you know, cut, mic, switch it up, cut, water, it's like sales, switch it up.
2:05
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you don't want to get like smash, you just want, you know, just get a little buzzy, you know what I'm saying?
2:13
[SPEAKER_01]: This is completely off.
2:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to Pammy Whammy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pammy, whammy.
2:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to our girl Sabrina.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw this on TikTok.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I met up with Sabrina at the end of the chargers game last season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She lives in the and the San Diego area.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She posted to her TikTok that I think she had like three cut waters and she posted her the aftermath.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They got to her wolf.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Three, three is a good number.
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[SPEAKER_01]: because they said the second way you'd be like, you know, you're like, good, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: But all that to say, training camp football is all on the horizon.
3:14
[SPEAKER_01]: We have a big story to talk about.
3:17
[SPEAKER_01]: We brought it up last week and regards to Tyler Schuck in terms of like it was just something that was on our radar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That gets resolved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll talk about it because I do want to talk about it on a whole, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like to the finish interesting to be able to tie the shot contracts and it is that it's not even interesting to me about him getting the deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's about the waterfall what it means going for everybody else that the state's driving the second round.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's really what the waterfall is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we want to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can we just talk about why is it
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[SPEAKER_01]: If we make a hashtag it becomes, it becomes a deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's like a crisis versus why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's like, which is me, even is me tweaking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where are we?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, the saints were dog shit last season in the barrel of dog shit and I just make a tweet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just off the cuff in over there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And here's, here's the funny thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The funny thing about the tweet was it was about getting the saints back to prominency.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was about them being a good teamwork.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it had no, it had no, it had no intention, boom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hashtag arched my back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's it, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, just, just arched.
4:59
[SPEAKER_01]: What are the archers?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Full, full, full.
5:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Downward dog.
5:05
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're into yoga poses, you know, there might be some people who understand that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
5:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And it just be like, so I didn't think anything of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then as whatever came on and then Saints, off season comes the goes, we won.
5:29
[SPEAKER_01]: We, we've naturally observed, you know, the team might not be good to subcommission.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we hope they are because we're we're literally like a business.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not we do this for fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we put a lot of time and money into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: We see the numbers when the Saints do well and it's more profitable when the Saints do well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're not hoping that the Saints do poorly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not hoping and praying that they do poorly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just potentially likely outcome that they may not have a good season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm not am I breaking any news by saying this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You won five games, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the injuries, but the injuries though, you know, look at the rest of the injuries though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, that's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, we, it, we get tossed around a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It gets tweeted around a little bit more this off season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You put it on blue sky.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, she can't scam on a podcast, shut up the menu.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She saw it on blue sky when you put it out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, she was like, whoa, what's interesting hashtag?
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[SPEAKER_01]: She mentions it on a podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She did with both body Jones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually think I have a clip pulled up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Keep posting every time I have the Saints in the bottom, and they have a hashtag for this season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hashtag arched my back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they try to do, they try to get, they try to get.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're trying to get arched to come home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for taking for our arch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't even know if arch is any good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Any good, but you know, if you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, here's what we do know, the Saints are bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I love the last line of larynx.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like the funny thing is like most of the people who like who like had an issue with the like I didn't see any of the tweets like I didn't see then see any of you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if that offended you, one, it tells me that you have not been listened to this podcast.
7:49
[SPEAKER_01]: You haven't been listened to these the podcast we've been doing this off season because we have been mostly pretty positive about killing more.
7:59
[SPEAKER_01]: We called them out on his bullshit when
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he didn't really take a stand with the whole dirt car situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he didn't want dirt car.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I stand by rubber reporting like I'm not backing down from that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he got, he got saved with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He got saved with that cool that worked out perfectly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For the most part, we've been positive about killing more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tyler shook both of you and I before, we were just like, oh, we didn't see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He got drafted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We looked a little more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We understand why Kellymor and the team would, like, we understood why it makes sense as to why they drafted him at forty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it gonna work out?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But does it mean that we're praying for Tyler shook down fall?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, so like all this like theoretical like all their, do me favor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shut the fuck up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Please, or if you're like, we have a five year podcast medium.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How about
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[SPEAKER_01]: you like, subscribe, and go watch an actual podcast episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Many that we've done for weeks on in, where you can actually find your opinion, not just go by a social media clip or a tweet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because trust me, they're out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll just light them up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Please.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Please.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Please.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what's going on in this world?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We talk about football.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If that doesn't fit you, like, oh my god.
9:41
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't care about this thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They predicted the Saints won't win more than three games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How about you actually go listen to the episode where we actually went through the schedule?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, what did it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Six?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, nigga.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You were six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's true, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was high, one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just fuckin' football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, it's literally just a fucking hashtag.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a hashtag for fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If they do well, then obviously they're not gonna be in a position to draft a quarterback, which means that they played well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That means they're gonna go, like, don't overatilize, like, well, aren't just gonna come up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know, we don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just tweet and burn, like we just have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just having fun, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, that's it, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, just relax, man.
10:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to act.
10:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I tweeted hashtag, Arch, my back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: November, two thousand twenty four.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When Arch was nowhere near going to declare you think I would like, do you think I put a lot of like brain power into it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's he's he's going to he's.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I got a no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just I heard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We haven't fun, nigga.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just can't work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can we get like, isn't that what the out was supposed to be about like, that's what like, that's what Twitter was at some point like, just out here just tweeting, bro.
11:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I still use it for.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just about just tweeting nonsense, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was telling Jam about her earlier today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she took a pause and she was like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why would you tweet that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's like a recurring being with her asking me all the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, do you know me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cheers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just letting my thoughts look like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you, if any be all like you're getting our discord bro, like that's all it is for a week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just be up in it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just clowning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Clowning like a fun laugh about hypotheticals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We had a whole last fucking discussion today about fucking being big and being like on an airplane, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're big back on the airplane, for example.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to Daniel Jeremiah with the weird ass tweet, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Weird tweet, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was hot.
12:29
[SPEAKER_01]: He was hot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's who I'm about to break the burrito on a four hour old friend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, what that meant, that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that meant that
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, damn, I guess I just don't fly enough because I don't give a shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm feeding my fried chicken on anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People's eating the grass on that bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're having a little time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my middle days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The days of pills skip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It loves it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just like it's said in this, I completely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just looking like a stereotype.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to our Duke Kevin Hashtag Blame SPP, Jack said, I don't drink the cool late and I dig it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not even about the cool late, man.
13:48
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just about, I want to give Shout out to Ross Tucker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to give him a lot of props and credit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He described our podcast perfectly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was really appreciative of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Perfectly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Perfectly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you haven't listened to that episode, please go back and do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We call it like it is and we're just realist, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we've been fans of the Saints for so long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like yes, do we have actual sources?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We absolutely do.
14:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know Dante.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some type of white one that's not very good, but I don't want to drink something alcoholic on this spot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been thanks fans for so long that things can't get past us, but also something in, I don't know if it's still in your bio, but something that used to be in your bio is like, no extreme homerism, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's keeping stream homerism out of my mentions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Please.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Never could.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd never always ate it then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just like the illusion of homerism.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love being a fan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a fan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I suffer from homerism sometimes, especially back in the day when I was emotionally attached in it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But even then, I still just tried to insert a little logic and check my bias a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, just try that for just a couple of times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just check your bias just a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I maybe I need to look at the other thirty one teams before I say my team is going to be twelve and five twelve and six whatever it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Rock games and look at the roster.
15:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going the Saints are going into the season with quarter banks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have not won a game in the NFL, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's not win a game in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tyler shook his never played NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's your starting quarter base.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, of course, they are like the thirty first or thirty second team in NFL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, of course, maybe they will outdo expectations, maybe they'll go out there and win six, seven eight games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the fun of NFL because we get surprised every year with something that doesn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's a surprise for a reason.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess there's a reason.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a surprise because we're going in thinking one thing and then something different happens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So right now it's hard to predict.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it possible to predict that the sense of going to be successful?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at that there roster relative to the rest of the table as I take a look at the roster and the coaching and everything else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just a lot of unknowns if maybe, but that's all it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not about who's trying to be right around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I see people say, if your wallet seems going when you're going to be
16:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't be happy, I don't be in a joint muscle, I'm being joined in the community we build stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now that, I saw that comment, I don't know if that was the right thing to do with us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's just stuff I see up there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just like, come on man, just stop it.
16:57
[SPEAKER_01]: If you think that we love being in that right so much that one of the St.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Louis, like, go back and listen to that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we did after the Cowboys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I didn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: had no voice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No voice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No voice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are on a national podcast with great rules to talk about.
17:18
[SPEAKER_01]: The Saints go on to the Super Bowl.
17:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Twenty, twenty, twenty, twenty-four.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was about literally said the Saints had like a top five offensive line in football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like a fucking idiot in retrospect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the first two weeks are Chinese so boy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Please please please please please please miss us.
17:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not about to sell my home.
17:48
[SPEAKER_02]: First of all Dickens, it we too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Great.
17:53
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so tough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It feels fucking forever ago.
18:00
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I said.
18:02
[SPEAKER_01]: The NFL is the reason in social sense.
18:03
[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the greatest reality TV shows in existence because no one knows.
18:10
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't know what's happening on the season.
18:12
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't know what's going to happen week to week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Pammy said, I said, I would give him something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't give him anything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't give him anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't give him anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't give him anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't give him anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't give him anything.
18:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't give him anything.
18:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't give him anything.
18:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't give him anything.
18:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't give him anything.
18:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And I had a high-light thing like that cowboy's win.
18:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I was, I'm feeling like, top-owned bigum's listen.
18:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Imagine that high.
18:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I was there.
18:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I was at the game.
18:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, leaving that state.
18:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my God, bro.
18:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the way the way everyone like a fluke went to.
18:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the way we beat him bro.
19:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we put the when you pull that shit all the way to the side and just like that's what makes Michael Jackson.
19:16
[SPEAKER_01]: What if woman it's over?
19:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Climbed it in time for just what a timecastle.
19:23
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
19:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and it's a wild breath.
19:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I did a show.
19:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, anyhow, let's uh, I went before we get to the, the shock thing.
19:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to talk about a side and I think is super, super underrated.
19:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Doctor, it's all that happened to less than twelve months.
20:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
20:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
20:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
20:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is even wild if you think about all the shit that's happening in this country in less than twelve months, too.
20:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Um,
20:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
20:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
20:16
[SPEAKER_01]: That was weird.
20:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, sorry about that.
20:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about the Saints, adding free agent, Jonathan Bullard, Defense and Laman.
20:29
[SPEAKER_01]: They signed him.
20:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say this past weekend, but leave it with Saturday.
20:33
[SPEAKER_01]: But that brought him in earlier in the off season for a visit.
20:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it was like a workout, try out, but I think it was just more of a visit.
20:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Sign up was made official this past weekend.
20:50
[SPEAKER_01]: think that this signing is super, super, super underrated.
20:56
[SPEAKER_01]: He is someone, he's listed other defensive end, but if you watch a lot of, like, when he played for the Vikings, he may, like, majority of the damage he makes is on the interior.
21:10
[SPEAKER_01]: He has a lot of flexibility of playing DE, but mostly come from the interior in terms of, like, the defensive tackle.
21:17
[SPEAKER_01]: positions.
21:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And this has been a trend for this team.
21:21
[SPEAKER_01]: How's experience working with Brandon Staley?
21:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And the message I've seen for this team is done is this run defense hashtag on paper is going to be in through this season.
21:36
[SPEAKER_01]: They went out.
21:37
[SPEAKER_01]: They traded for Gotcha from the Patriots who true knows he is a notoriously known as being a good run defender, run suffer and his career.
21:47
[SPEAKER_01]: they went out in the draft, the third round they signed, or they drafted Vernon Brighton, and then they signed, they just signed a bullet who is known as being a great run defender in his career.
22:01
[SPEAKER_01]: The run defense shouldn't theory be better.
22:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I also think potentially with the sign and we'll see how it plays out, like his later signing.
22:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, like being Nathan Sheper.
22:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me just name these D-Landem.
22:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead.
22:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Cam Jordan, Jonathan Bullard, Jonah Williams, Devonga Chow, Kelly Saunders, John Ridgeway, Christian Boyd, Brian Brzee, Vernon Brudden, Nathan Shepherd, Amari Thomas, and then, you know, the Lion Packers like Chase Young and, you know, a lot of, you know, big creep,
22:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, that's a lie.
22:49
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a lie.
22:49
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a lie.
22:50
[SPEAKER_01]: That is a lie to do.
22:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Especially the interior.
22:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Excuse me.
22:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you say, Chris?
22:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
22:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
22:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
22:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Chris, I'm glad I'm naming too.
22:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's a lie to go.
23:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, bro.
23:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Nathan Shepherd.
23:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think they looked at this like D line and said that we got to rebuild this thing.
23:10
[SPEAKER_01]: We got to a hundred percent completely retooling state.
23:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
23:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And I watched, I mean, I watched a little video on Bullard.
23:21
[SPEAKER_01]: We can't have to use.
23:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, I saw him make more plays like he.
23:35
[SPEAKER_01]: What he does well.
23:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It's impressive.
23:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's not going to be someone that gets a lot of publicity, but he brings something to the interior, like no matter how many snaps he gets, I think it's going to be impactful, which I hate to say it, with players like Shepherd and Saunders.
24:05
[SPEAKER_01]: It hasn't been there.
24:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it just hasn't been there.
24:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Time to look at that in line and look like Swiss cheese with these keeping holes all over the place.
24:15
[SPEAKER_01]: What brand is telling us to do, you know, calling it a three four is going to be like five two is going to look like a five two in terms where you see five down.
24:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's, you know, it's going to have, what he wants to do is just to call up that firm.
24:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And do some, you know, just do some little chickery with the pressures.
24:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Not so much of blitzing, but design pressures, you know, things like that.
24:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And Chase Young, I saw him recently.
24:46
[SPEAKER_01]: He's, I remember the way he was getting any of you.
24:49
[SPEAKER_01]: But he talked about how he played mostly for I last year on a defense and now he's going to be more than nine, you know, nine, wide nine.
25:01
[SPEAKER_01]: So, which I said, we said, that's what he mostly did is quirky season.
25:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, look that could be all just.
25:08
[SPEAKER_01]: typical of season trope.
25:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm going back to what I used to do when I was more successful.
25:15
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see, we'll see.
25:16
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, I think that is like what they want to get back to doing.
25:20
[SPEAKER_01]: They want to get back to clogging their middle up and designing pressures and bringing pressures from different areas, whether it's Chase Young, Grandeson, DiMario, guys like that coming in and you know, give us some kind of passports.
25:34
[SPEAKER_01]: That's only going to really get.
25:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know what I'm saying?
25:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's literally only options.
25:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
25:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Um.
25:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Chris, with the D line of fruit Mr. Isheron, Pete Warner now.
25:48
[SPEAKER_01]: He got, I guess, Pete going Pete, bro.
25:51
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going Pete, bro.
25:51
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the new Pete.
25:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Pete going Pete to down twenty five.
25:56
[SPEAKER_01]: People make it look tackles, you know.
25:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I just need him to make sure you're hitting them right next to all that burger.
26:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I just felt like he was, bro.
26:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, like, going this way and the Reynolds going this way, I just took his instincts were terrible.
26:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been bad for like the last year and a half.
26:17
[SPEAKER_01]: One defense got to be better, rock.
26:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Got him get to be him.
26:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, from the front to back, there we built everything.
26:28
[SPEAKER_01]: My back is still most of the same, but I mean, Lee Webb, my backers were fine, you know, saying the Mario Davis old, but still a dope.
26:38
[SPEAKER_01]: But even I safety, like, read, bro, like that dude can fill in the old bro, like that guy come in, yes, blazing and fill the hole.
26:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And what's great about him is he'll play deep, he'll play too deep or whatever, show that shell.
26:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And then like, when the ball is snapped,
26:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
26:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're going from a light box to where, okay, it's a light box.
27:03
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to run the ball and he's able to fill that gap.
27:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So nice eight man box after the snap.
27:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's a weapon.
27:09
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
27:10
[SPEAKER_01]: So his addition is like going to be key.
27:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Then you got guys like Sanker, you know.
27:17
[SPEAKER_01]: So it should be better, but I'm not saying it won't be the two thousand ravens we can't run the ball or I don't know, but just better than last year, bro.
27:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was horrible.
27:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's good.
27:29
[SPEAKER_01]: It was worse.
27:30
[SPEAKER_01]: It was bad to you before it just got worse and worse.
27:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it went from like
27:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe a little trope like every game that was going to take a hit, a hundred yards, Russell.
27:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been thirty games since the Saints have given up a hundred yards.
27:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God.
27:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And now it's like, it was annoying, but the Saints did have a pretty good run.
27:47
[SPEAKER_01]: You face over that time.
27:48
[SPEAKER_01]: But then like, when D.A.
27:50
[SPEAKER_01]: took over, bro, I don't know.
27:51
[SPEAKER_01]: It just got worse.
27:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, you got in last year to damn just broke.
27:55
[SPEAKER_01]: It was terrible.
27:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Did it was the first game the game was a jail in Hertz first start?
28:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Then a broke my trip in.
28:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say, it was, that he was game.
28:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, thank you right, thank you a hundred percent.
28:13
[SPEAKER_01]: We're just always like, say it's always got to like give some coronation to something.
28:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I ever caught a big, ever caught a big dude like bad.
28:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I've got my first man.
28:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks.
28:31
[SPEAKER_01]: RG.
28:33
[SPEAKER_00]: RG.
28:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Three.
28:34
[SPEAKER_01]: RG.
28:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.
28:39
[SPEAKER_01]: J.L.
28:39
[SPEAKER_01]: and Hertz.
28:40
[SPEAKER_01]: We were by the last price.
28:46
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, just so much.
28:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Put on a list every day.
28:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't day you don't first win, but I've been coming to the dome just.
28:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it wasn't.
28:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Who was it was, um, oh, the line has received her who had been like a colossal bus or Galilee.
29:07
[SPEAKER_01]: They do nothing.
29:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Straight team.
29:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Straight team in France.
29:10
[SPEAKER_02]: That was all right.
29:14
[SPEAKER_02]: So that was like the last time I've ever
29:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I've ever like talked shit to a fan base before before a game.
29:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I was like talking greasy for that game, bro.
29:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I never really do it because like I've been like, now I was feeling myself.
29:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Never again.
29:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Never again.
29:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And then when that was like the the safe one, like, safe one had a long touchdown in that game.
29:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, because I went to overtime.
29:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that game went to overtime.
29:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Did it?
29:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have a sick memory.
30:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, that game went overtime and then I think the Giants got it and then kicked the field go to win and uh, and some said like that, I don't know.
30:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but yes, that's game for sure went to overtime.
30:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, John Ross, I don't like games.
30:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, fuck it was.
30:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, oh my god.
30:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so much Tyler shook and his contract.
30:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Could be one baby.
30:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Four years, fully guaranteed.
30:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I got, I got text message on, sorry day morning.
30:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm essentially saying that he was going to be signed before training camp, and that the contract was either going to be fully guaranteed or very, very close to fully guaranteed.
30:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the news came out, I think the next day, the Sunday.
30:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
30:51
[SPEAKER_01]: That sign fully guaranteed.
30:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought like I thought like a lot of back and forth about this on Twitter because I don't even know what the numbers are.
30:59
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like what four years like eleven million.
31:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe what it boils down to fully guaranteed.
31:09
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a part of me like there's probably like ninety percent of me that this doesn't carry because like NFL is ran by billionaires and
31:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm typically always gonna sigh with the player because, it's a different situation, but you've seen it a little bit.
31:31
[SPEAKER_01]: You've seen it quite a bit with what's happening with the cowboys and Jerry Jones, like Mike Parsons, and like the comments that they made today against their players.
31:41
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, what?
31:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't stand Mike Parsons, but like, what?
31:56
[SPEAKER_01]: But there was a segment of the fan base that was just like super opposed to Tyler Shutten getting this guaranteed contract Which was a little confusing to me like it was like I didn't understand it I will give the other side of it one like
32:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I understand why some teams were hesitant to do the fully guaranteed contracts.
32:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Because one, there is going to be something that's going to happen in terms of changing how teams re-structure contracts in terms of navigating the capital.
32:39
[SPEAKER_01]: That's coming from the commissioner at some point.
32:42
[SPEAKER_01]: And the big thing with guaranteed contracts is that if this fully guaranteed,
32:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you don't make the right draft selection, for example, let's talk about, I think if I ask you, is like a perfect example for this situation, right?
32:57
[SPEAKER_01]: If his got, if his contract essentially was fully guaranteed, it makes it almost very difficult to like cut that player and like move on, even though the things don't really do that anyway, because of sunken, policy cost, but like whatever.
33:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, like if they were, if they did do that thing,
33:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Once the contract is fully guaranteed, it makes it very difficult to move on and cut in that player because that contract is fully guaranteed.
33:20
[SPEAKER_01]: But the Saints gave Tyler Schuck, a fully guaranteed contract, four years.
33:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Once that Luther Burton at thirty nine, he got a fully guaranteed contract.
33:33
[SPEAKER_01]: But what's interesting to me is that
33:40
[SPEAKER_01]: essentially what this is set the standard for for the Saints and this is why a lot of teams were pushing back against it is that essentially now every second round pick that the Saints draft are gonna be like fully guarantee me fully guarantee me yeah that's basically if they're picking forty and you know forty and above whatever you know I'm saying yep also
34:08
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's just I mean, that's just how it works like it.
34:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the line will further down like every year, you know what I'm saying.
34:17
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what the NFL teams and owners are trying to push against every time you set a precedent.
34:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, next year there's a new president in the year.
34:25
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a new president.
34:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And it just keeps rolling over.
34:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what they're finding.
34:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I understand, like for a business, I understand it, perspective.
34:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
34:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And on a website, players have to fight for their business.
34:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Workers have almost no leverage whatsoever.
34:41
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they're utilizing the brand little leverage that they have to get some, you know, get some guarantee money.
34:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
34:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Baby, don't work out.
34:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they don't work out and honestly don't want to pay you, but on the flip side.
34:56
[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm a player, like, at least I'm guaranteed this.
34:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm not guaranteed to grab or I can hurt, I can get injured, maybe for whatever reason, coaches get fired every year and I just never get a chance to really shine and make a career for myself.
35:12
[SPEAKER_01]: At least I'm guaranteed this eleven million dollars, you know what I'm saying?
35:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Which integrates in the grand scheme of, like, NFL money is nothing.
35:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, eleven million dollars is nothing.
35:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing.
35:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing.
35:22
[SPEAKER_01]: They blow that on situational past pressures in.
35:26
[SPEAKER_01]: and, you know, third, fourth string cornerbacks, all the time, like, it's just, it's nothing, you know what I'm saying?
35:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, over four years, it's nothing.
35:36
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'd say it's time with a player, it's like, I'm mad, we're paying eleven, uh, I see a five ski, one point five me.
35:42
[SPEAKER_01]: He guaranteed, one point five.
35:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I'm fast to get one point five.
35:45
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like five, I need a one point five.
35:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you want a dollar fitted?
35:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Shit, one point five me.
35:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess like to me,
35:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And it sounds like, and maybe it's like, I guess the solution isn't that simple, but to me, it's just like, draft better.
36:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I guess like, like, is it like that, and that's, that's me saying that.
36:09
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not just a saint's thing.
36:11
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just a Boston board thing.
36:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you like, if you draft, because I'm sure if you're a team, and if you draft the player in the second round or in the third round or whatever round, if that player is a hit,
36:25
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't give to shits that you guarantee that contract if that player is a hit, right?
36:30
[SPEAKER_01]: If that player is a brain, you'll give to shits.
36:34
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you miss, then that's where it becomes an issue.
36:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So then it's like, then just fucking, and that's the thing because it's like, if they play a hit, if you get a, you know, a probal run it back in a second round.
36:50
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
36:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Or at the fourth round or whatever, you know what I'm saying?
36:53
[SPEAKER_01]: You could clearly find with exploiting that fine.
36:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Fine, I'm going to run him into the ground for them to lose that little measly contract you get.
37:03
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
37:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Completely found that over when you know the player wants to just get a little security.
37:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
37:16
[SPEAKER_01]: call me eras said wouldn't be a problem if they knew how to develop and draft but pay these simple points simple as that like it's really and when we talked about it last week I don't know if this had anything to do with that really don't but something like I think on a psychological thing that was on my mind is like
37:38
[SPEAKER_01]: kind of shucks been injured a lot.
37:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he legitimately was injured a lot in college.
37:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So like I know you was like, you know, I think like the Florial thing set like it was born and down to like what like, a hundred and fifty thousand dollars or like two hundred.
37:51
[SPEAKER_01]: What's that?
37:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Which seems like quote unquote like peanuts and the grand scheme of things, but like when you have had when you've had his injury.
38:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Unluck that he has had.
38:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that is a substantial amount of money to get guaranteed or to not get guaranteed.
38:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And for an NFL team, like, that's literally nothing.
38:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Ford owner that is literally nothing.
38:29
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a dollar.
38:31
[SPEAKER_01]: So I wonder if
38:35
[SPEAKER_01]: how much that may have played a factor into it, like a legit factor into it, of like his history, like where he's been, but above.
38:43
[SPEAKER_01]: But ultimately, he got his fully guaranteed deal.
38:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw underhill report of how like the contract structure is done a little differently.
38:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So my question to you is, now that he has a fully guaranteed contract and all that, do you think that it plays a factor?
39:03
[SPEAKER_01]: into how the quarterback competition is perceived to go to go in training camp.
39:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if the contract is necessarily pleasing to it.
39:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think when they drafted them, it was kind of like that decision was made.
39:24
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
39:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously the guaranteed money just kind of adds more weight to this side of the
39:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Pendulum or whatever, you know what I'm saying?
39:34
[SPEAKER_01]: But I just think that I think that decision was kind of done.
39:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they saw when Ramadil last year, they looked at the tape and just said, you know, school get another quarterback, you know?
39:50
[SPEAKER_01]: What that means, going forward, that doesn't mean that has no bearing on what week one will be.
39:57
[SPEAKER_01]: But we know Spirit over us.
40:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Chuck is the guy.
40:02
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
40:03
[SPEAKER_01]: There's Kelly Moore's guy.
40:04
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Mickey Loomus's guy.
40:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I think everybody on the staff wants him, or at least most people on the staff wants him to be the guy.
40:12
[SPEAKER_01]: He wants him to be the guy.
40:15
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and it's up to him and it's up to random to make you know, for that to work out.
40:20
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think, you know,
40:21
[SPEAKER_01]: the unwritten, it's all written down in Pennsylvania right now, you know what I'm saying?
40:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, so we just got to see how it plays out.
40:27
[SPEAKER_01]: This is gonna be fascinating, bro.
40:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just thinking all the day, I was trying to compare the same quarterbacks situation to somebody.
40:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just can't think of anything.
40:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I was looking at like the forty-nineers.
40:37
[SPEAKER_01]: They drafted, you know, what, uh, tree lands in twenty twenty-one, turn over all.
40:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Next year, they drafted Brock Perty, uh, you know, last pick of the draft.
40:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I think tree last started two games that year.
40:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Then he got bench for a grapple and a grapple when there is no thing that he put perdi in there.
40:59
[SPEAKER_01]: He just took it and ran when he runs.
41:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
41:02
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, that's the situation.
41:04
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't compare that situation to Saints because Randall was a fifth round pick last year.
41:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, Tyler Shabai was in a second round.
41:13
[SPEAKER_01]: By the last year's coaching staff, too.
41:15
[SPEAKER_01]: By the last year's coaching staff.
41:16
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
41:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Randall is not like your typical, like, league round quarterback.
41:22
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a guy with pedigree, showed a line of, you know, and he has talent, like he has more talent that your typical league round quarterback.
41:30
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, for sure, he's not like just some tick-tech on guy, you know, the camp fighting or whatever.
41:35
[SPEAKER_01]: He has legitimate talent.
41:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Take care.
41:37
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just such a different situation.
41:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
41:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
41:40
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
41:42
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you guys suck who is like, you know, this, like,
41:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Statue with looking in court of this look like look like a quarterback you know saying tall white you know big arm a move a little bit but twenty six and injured
42:03
[SPEAKER_01]: That experience, which I just still think is very under-reported.
42:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, it's so under-reported.
42:09
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not inexperienced quarterback.
42:10
[SPEAKER_01]: He does not plead a lot of football.
42:13
[SPEAKER_01]: He might be smart.
42:14
[SPEAKER_01]: He might have studied a lot of football.
42:16
[SPEAKER_01]: He said with coaches and watched the tape and probably knows the time.
42:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I've know he knows the time.
42:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I watched so many interviews of him.
42:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously in the television kid knows the time of the football.
42:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Experience in life.
42:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Experience in life, mature.
42:31
[SPEAKER_01]: You got a wife.
42:32
[SPEAKER_01]: But as far as like football experience, he's not experienced.
42:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that is a fact.
42:38
[SPEAKER_01]: He is not an experienced football player.
42:41
[SPEAKER_01]: How much is that playing to, you know, this competition is going to be interesting, bro.
42:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Like because I know is experienced.
42:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's a relatively long damn town.
42:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
42:52
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of football.
42:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So as they're going to play into it, it's just fascinating.
42:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait.
42:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Craig was, was three Sundays from now there would be Saints football.
43:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Not next Sunday, not the Sunday after, but the Sunday after that.
43:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be there, bro.
43:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be there.
43:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I won't be there.
43:09
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's going to be the answer, bro.
43:11
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we're going to do.
43:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just what we're going to do.
43:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously, I'm not expecting like crazy crazy, but
43:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I like that it's going to be against a Jesse minster defense.
43:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't expect craziness, but it's going to be a charge defense.
43:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You know the charge defense is going to be tough.
43:36
[SPEAKER_01]: They'll fly around.
43:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And even if Jesse Mentor doesn't bring a lot of confusing looks or anything like that, like it's going to be wrapped up.
43:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was there and, you know, and rat on a rattler start, like a lot of this where we were twenty plus D when the things played the chargers and LA last season was was a terrible awful awful game for him.
44:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And
44:06
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be very interesting to see how it goes for both of them, not just for rather, for both of them.
44:13
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be interesting to see how Kelly Moore deals with how those snaps get debuted.
44:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly.
44:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
44:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's a, that's a hate coaching decision.
44:24
[SPEAKER_01]: It is.
44:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that means a lot because, you know, those first couple series, I was going to have more starters or more potential starters.
44:34
[SPEAKER_01]: in his first couple series where you're going to second half, you know.
44:38
[SPEAKER_01]: That's Fasky season right there.
44:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Fasky time right there, boys.
44:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what a cool season.
44:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, babe.
44:48
[SPEAKER_01]: How do we get it?
44:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's ya.
44:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, um, try to think.
45:03
[SPEAKER_01]: someone that said like, you know, now that like now with the shock deal being done, like there are annoyed that like it didn't get done two weeks earlier.
45:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, do you know how negotiators work?
45:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I can't stand Andrew Brandt and he's been blocked for years, but like one thing that he hundred percent was right on is like negotiate like deadlines a hundred percent per action.
45:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, a hundred percent.
45:26
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a life bro.
45:28
[SPEAKER_01]: So, life.
45:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Training camps about to start.
45:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Them take around pigs ain't.
45:34
[SPEAKER_01]: And training camp.
45:38
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just fully falling like dominoes, right?
45:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Best bully.
45:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So just charges holding out on, uh, traharic, traharic, traharic, then my, uh, Mike, Mike, we're using up and retired.
45:51
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a shit.
45:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Then let's get this done.
45:52
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
46:01
[SPEAKER_01]: But just because, you know, my football's juices getting a little flowing because, you know, I've taken a little football sabbatical, you know, probably, we potted, but need to take a little football break.
46:12
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's Jamar Stewart's situation is still absolutely fucking fascinating to be brought.
46:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Crazy.
46:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to see what it'd be out there.
46:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Because he's not, he is not going to back now.
46:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's not, you know, one of them.
46:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
46:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the ain't begging that.
46:31
[SPEAKER_01]: He dealing with a owner from Mike Brown.
46:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't back down either.
46:36
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't.
46:38
[SPEAKER_01]: That he is three out of the eighteen for this taste.
46:44
[SPEAKER_01]: But you don't.
46:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, I'm just going to put money on his neck.
46:49
[SPEAKER_01]: No, my brother said, portion monkey, many times in his life.
46:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I don't know if I know it.
46:58
[SPEAKER_01]: The the crate the I would just be fascinated that if he did sit out the season if he worded like we entered the two thousand twenty six draft it he would still be a fur from big that would be a fascinating like thought exercise to me.
47:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll be fascinating.
47:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.
47:13
[SPEAKER_01]: You'll think so.
47:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.
47:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.
47:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know this is something weird about after you could draft it.
47:21
[SPEAKER_01]: like your value goes down.
47:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think about this early.
47:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's crazy.
47:24
[SPEAKER_01]: We spent months talking about shit.
47:26
[SPEAKER_01]: There are Sanders.
47:27
[SPEAKER_01]: There's like a time difference month.
47:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And now it's like he's just a guy on the Browns roster.
47:34
[SPEAKER_01]: You know?
47:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like maybe we'll see him this year, maybe not.
47:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like it's just weird.
47:41
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just our that shit just happens.
47:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the tape didn't change since college tape was the same as it was earlier this year.
47:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was like, but just the fact that he got drafted later, for whatever reason, it's like, when he's a fifth round quarterback, you know what I'm saying?
47:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, whoever you got drafted it.
48:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they goes fifth.
48:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
48:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Drew said the Bengals are Uber talented, but not really tough.
48:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Are they super talented though?
48:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the most important.
48:09
[SPEAKER_01]: The Beatles are a very top heavy team.
48:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Top.
48:12
[SPEAKER_01]: They have burrow, they have cheese, they have tea higgins.
48:17
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's about it.
48:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Especially on defense.
48:23
[SPEAKER_01]: It's tree and a couple of other guys and that's about it.
48:26
[SPEAKER_01]: They have all fish.
48:32
[SPEAKER_01]: that four top two players and then a whole like a bunch of other like okay players I would say or decent players and and this one ever happened this one ever happened because it's the bingles uh... brown and ever uh... just never ordered on this but like
48:53
[SPEAKER_01]: crazy thing this offseason would have been to like fires that tailor and like the bingles would have went after like Cliff Cleansberry or something like that to like really paired Joe Burrow with an actual like innovative often like Greg Rose dolls has been on this for a long time but like you saw I want to give him some credit and love to but like it's like actually like give Joe Burrow like an actual like O.C.
49:15
[SPEAKER_01]: like an actual creative innovative O.C.
49:18
[SPEAKER_01]: like
49:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I said like Joe Burr is going to be one of those hopefully not but he'll be one of those like man wonder what it could have been if he had this that nothing you don't say.
49:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean I wouldn't be surprised.
49:38
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a part of me just has a thing span that's just annoyed with the idea about it just because of just just what we deal with it being like a same spy cast and it's like the LSU blah blah but like it wouldn't surprise me if there's a Carson Palmer type of split that overall does from the being like I just I just see it right it just I just see it in the like the season already there like honestly these are a hundred percent already
50:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And just the way he moves, he's kind of like, he moves kind of like, man, I'm just kind of, he kind of would do what I want, type of dude, like a dude, you know what I'm saying?
50:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I completely just see him like, man, I'm done.
50:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm outta here.
50:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Even trade me or I'm not playing the more.
50:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I could, that would just be crazy if that happened, or because that would be like two, two, bro.
50:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Franchise quarterbacks doing it for the same organization.
50:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I quit that quit.
50:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you already know, bro, like, we'll be in and day in and day in and day with what should the Saints trade to land over.
50:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you already know what it would be, bro.
50:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we saw it.
50:53
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the twenty two sexual assault.
50:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.
50:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.
51:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, anything so obviously we're not going to have any training like they report training count tomorrow.
51:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're just not going to be any training camp news with their first practice is going to be on Wednesday.
51:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, anything.
51:17
[SPEAKER_01]: You interested to see want to see we'll probably.
51:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably maybe record a recap of day one or training camp on Wednesday, but anything you like maybe interested see or want to see on Wednesday from training camp.
51:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, because like the quarterback stuff.
51:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I honestly, I'm not trying to take too much from it until I see the preseason game, right?
51:46
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be so much too.
51:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be so much.
51:49
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be so much, right?
51:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just, you know, I'm a retweet eclipse.
51:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm enjoying the clips, but I'm not going to take too much from it.
51:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm ready to start seeing like the trenches, you know what I'm saying?
52:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, because they did all these seven and seven on the levels and stuff, and OTAs, and many care.
52:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm really like, like Ross Tucker talked about, you know, like, if you haven't listened to that episode, go back and listen, it's only like, thirty minutes.
52:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Ross Tucker was also, but he talked about, like, what the saints have invested in his offense of mine, I shouldn't be a average of it's of mine.
52:25
[SPEAKER_01]: It should be a good offense of mine.
52:27
[SPEAKER_01]: It should be the star unit of the team.
52:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
52:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And I've been on my right arm.
52:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been on like, it's been on like, it's been on the Wii of screaming on this podcast.
52:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Over and over again.
52:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Over that agreement, I agree.
52:41
[SPEAKER_01]: It should be a story unit, bro.
52:42
[SPEAKER_01]: So I want to see that.
52:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see the defense of now.
52:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see what the trenches looking like, man.
52:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Why receive a bro like who shakes out after pleading?
52:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, please, I have no idea.
52:54
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no idea.
52:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Like show me, is it me some tipten season again?
52:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it?
53:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, nigga, please, no.
53:05
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a tip that gets an everything, right?
53:09
[SPEAKER_01]: But look, he got into his second year.
53:11
[SPEAKER_01]: He got into the last year in camp and that kind of strike.
53:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe he puts it together.
53:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
53:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
53:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's above me in season.
53:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe by me, you know, make the roster.
53:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't know.
53:22
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, remember when, uh, AT Perry was the
53:26
[SPEAKER_01]: AT Paris, he's in baby.
53:28
[SPEAKER_01]: He started, he started, uh, Broncos, training camp on pup.
53:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's something I put in our discord of like who the, like who were the players who were going to start to see, like who or start training camp on pup.
53:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Taste and watch.
53:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Taste and, taste and for sure is going to be on pup.
53:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Is there any other players that might be like a surprise, surprise, pup player?
53:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, sound a birdie, whatever.
53:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Sounds a birdie.
53:52
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's a go on.
53:53
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a go on.
53:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Um,
53:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Mine for a training camp, but I'm just watching.
54:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Secondary bro watching the secondary bro.
54:04
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get in touch.
54:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I want to see some PBUs, I want to see some, I don't like.
54:17
[SPEAKER_01]: even if like catches are being made, can they be like, can they be like contested?
54:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, can they can, can the DBs be in the vicinity?
54:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, someone who I think it's gonna have a big impact this season.
54:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously he's working back from entry is, is Quincy Riley.
54:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, maybe expect him to be involved like in the first training camp on Wednesday, but, um,
54:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely in the mix, someone I'm looking out for, our dude Josh set out, I still need to watch RAW tonight.
54:52
[SPEAKER_01]: People going to overanalyze every quarterback clip.
54:55
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just an nature of just an nature of training camp.
54:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Nature of just football.
55:00
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't be training camp, mini-cap, OTA is a no matter what it is.
55:04
[SPEAKER_01]: No matter what.
55:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like I was doing it last like when car was like under like under throwing a lobby on balls, bro.
55:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I was a hundred percent guilty of it last season.
55:15
[SPEAKER_01]: So for everybody to give up on put them in no just one little get off the little medicine ball, but like if I just done with them, like I'll get this bum off the teeth.
55:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Just keep this SOB off the team.
55:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that's that's the deal with dude like who I mean it should it should be can drain Miller, but like who's going to be RB too speaking of pup like can't really I mean kids just thought it would help like oh my god.
55:47
[SPEAKER_01]: What's bro you if he is on with a pup nigga
55:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I will have a meltdown Wednesday night, nigga.
55:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I will have a meltdown.
56:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, nigga.
56:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you all put a meltdown.
56:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I don't think I have anything else, but I think that's pretty much it.
56:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I just people like the whole shock thing at people like it's it's
56:20
[SPEAKER_01]: It really isn't that serious.
56:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, at the end of the day, it wasn't like guaranteed versus nine guaranteed.
56:28
[SPEAKER_01]: It was eight percent guaranteed versus nine guaranteed, you know, nine percent versus nine.
56:33
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, most of the countries won't be guaranteed.
56:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
56:37
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was like once it was once like the Mason.
56:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So I had heard.
56:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Once the Burton deal got done in the Mason Taylor deal dot got done and think Mason Taylor's deal was like I don't know I'll talk about it, but it was like over ninety percent of his so it was guaranteed it really for shock was like it was like ninety percent of us are going to be guaranteed or like a hundred of us are going to be guaranteed and at that point I think like
57:09
[SPEAKER_01]: As I reported, when we did their dairy car emergency podcasts, like since Mickey wants him to be starting week one, at that point you just set the president.
57:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you say, okay, here it is, fully guaranteed.
57:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I just can't wait to get answers for her.
57:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I just want answers, who starts, who's gonna be, who's gonna win the competition?
57:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it a competition?
57:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, just can't wait to find out, bro.
57:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause it's like, Rander.
57:41
[SPEAKER_01]: He, uh, it's almost like, I don't think he has any shot.
57:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he got to go out there.
57:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Just, he got the looks spectacular.
57:53
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a spectacular, bro.
57:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, spectacular.
57:57
[SPEAKER_01]: To even have a chance, I think.
57:58
[SPEAKER_01]: To have a chance.
57:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
58:01
[SPEAKER_01]: True.
58:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's true.
58:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, like, it's like unfair, but
58:07
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the game is the game like you know, but I think he knows that.
58:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, he knows it.
58:12
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the first time you been through, you know, like he knows it.
58:18
[SPEAKER_01]: It would be the most insane thing.
58:21
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like he not saying that the vibe.
58:23
[SPEAKER_01]: But he'd be one.
58:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if he went to a team and just had like a Malik Willis type of like arc to his career.
58:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So it would be interesting.
58:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who knows.
58:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, we will be back later this week recapping Saints training camp as it gets underway.
58:42
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58:43
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58:45
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58:46
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58:47
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58:49
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58:52
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58:58
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59:00
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59:03
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59:04
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