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Our first hydrogen car review & “Paul’s Investigation” causes a fuss · The Driver's Show

• 0:06
  Speaker 1: After talking with Trev, I just went home and cried.
• 0:11
  Speaker 2: I thought you were going to tell me you were inspired.
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: No, well, yeah, he did have an inspiring story. I
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: mean I.
• 0:16
  Speaker 2: Thought the way that you like touched him on the
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: shoulder when he came in was kind of interesting.
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm like mother Teresa kneeling down to a young
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: boy with rickets. I didn't know as Trev. I thought.
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: I thought it was like the man who stands outside
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: the Westfield sells pens.
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: Anyway, welcome to another episode of the Driver's Show.
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize that was Trev. I thought it was
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: a man who stands out the supermarket with the big issue.
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not laughing either. What did you drive this week?
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: I drove a Porta GT three rs.
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: And it looked so nice. Who did that belong to?
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: Don't ask, don't ask, no, Um. We will be featuring
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: that GTR that GT three rs in the future in
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: the next episode, yes.
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: So keep an ear out for that. Oh I'm excited.
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: My god, that car nearly killed me. I was gonna
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: ask you what you've checked out lately, and I'm gonna
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: answer my own question because you got to see the
• 1:25
  Speaker 1: BMW XM and as you know, I'm not a BMW guy.
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: You're not the M three. Yes guy, Yeah that's true.
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: Shout out to our peeps in South Korea, thank you
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: for listening. No, as you know, I'm like an M
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: three guy. Love them cool but the generally, but this
• 1:47
  Speaker 1: XM wow arguably the best way to spend three hundred
• 1:53
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars.
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah plus one roads.
• 1:55
  Speaker 1: Wow, I'm wildly impressed. In fact, this is probably probably
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: my favorite luxury suvl wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So a bit of background to it. This is
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: the first like actual unique BMW M car since I
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: think the M one. And when I say that, this
• 2:13
  Speaker 2: doesn't share a platform with any other BMW product. So
• 2:18
  Speaker 2: this is on a bespoke. It's a modified version of
• 2:22
  Speaker 2: their their class architecture, clustered architecture, of some of the
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: BMW related term but they basically have just jammed a
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: twin turbo V eight under the bonnet. They have a
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: plug in hybrid drive train and they've gone to town
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: on luxury and just making it look like that. And
• 2:40
  Speaker 2: if you haven't seen it, just google it right now.
• 2:42
  Speaker 1: It's all over our socials to the Drivers Show dot
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: com is where we're at on instet all pictures there.
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: So people don't like it.
• 2:49
  Speaker 1: Oh no, and like I'm critical on BMW BIN that
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: is that is a work of art. Look at the
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: Look at the textured roof on it, go down, go down.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So the roof is a three D layout and
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: it's basically like I said, of mountains upside down that
• 3:04
  Speaker 2: you can run your fingers across. It's like an Elkintari
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  Speaker 2: suede material. It has one hundred LEDs around the side
• 3:09
  Speaker 2: there to illuminate it. In the press photos you'll see
• 3:13
  Speaker 2: it has like a brown leather interior. This is called
• 3:15
  Speaker 2: vintage leather, and I said, fuck is vintage leather?
• 3:18
  Speaker 1: And it sounds like repurposing.
• 3:20
  Speaker 2: Well, what they said is that it's material that has
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: never been used in a car before because they want
• 3:26
  Speaker 2: it to be raw. So typically with a leather seat,
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: they don't use imperfect leathers because they tarnish the interior.
• 3:35
  Speaker 2: When you sit on them, you can generate cracks. So
• 3:38
  Speaker 2: here on the dashboard it has veins, It sometimes has imperfections,
• 3:42
  Speaker 2: and it just looks stunning and it runs sort of
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: along the whole dashboard in doors and it sounds unreal
• 3:48
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 3:49
  Speaker 1: It basically kind of has that vibe of an old
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: Chesterfield couch.
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: Yep, exactly, but the second row is exactly that. It
• 3:55
  Speaker 2: has these wrap around cushions on the side, so you
• 3:59
  Speaker 2: treat it as as a couch effectively. The problem with that, though,
• 4:03
  Speaker 2: is that it's an M car. This is like a
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: proper fast M car, and that there's no side support
• 4:08
  Speaker 2: in the second row. So if you are going for
• 4:10
  Speaker 2: a fang and you've got people in the second row,
• 4:12
  Speaker 2: they're going to be all over the place. There's a deal.
• 4:14
  Speaker 1: They are in a luxury car. They can put up
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: and shut up.
• 4:17
  Speaker 2: The wheels twenty three inchall ow wheels available, that's huge.
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: Ridiculous and twenty three inches too. You'd expect it to
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: that ride would.
• 4:25
  Speaker 2: Be adaptive air suspension, so it should be okay. But yeah,
• 4:30
  Speaker 2: I think it's cool. And there's an even faster version
• 4:31
  Speaker 2: of this coming with like a thousand newton meters of talk,
• 4:35
  Speaker 2: so it'll do zero to one hundred and under five
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: seconds like low fours. And that's the version that's coming.
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: It's called the label Red. So look at that.
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: How the kidney grill kind of illuminates as well. Looks great, But.
• 4:49
  Speaker 2: This looks if you compare this to a Mercedes Maybark GLS, like,
• 4:54
  Speaker 2: this looks way nicer. G. The Maybach GLS just looks
• 4:58
  Speaker 2: like a GLA Like you'd never really know the difference
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: unless you knew what you were looking for.
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, this just looks out there and cool.
• 5:05
  Speaker 2: So I can't wait to see what color people spec
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: this with, you know, just the crazy color combos available.
• 5:11
  Speaker 1: And that's another thing I love about it too, because
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: you can really customize this thing. You can just go
• 5:16
  Speaker 1: to absolute town on it. It's got stance. It's a
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: car with like Series BDE you know what I mean.
• 5:21
  Speaker 1: It's just got a big, big, big drive energy.
• 5:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, big driver's energy.
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: How much did that one cost us?
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Do we have?
• 5:30
  Speaker 2: Are we getting fined? God? Are you gonna have to
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: sell another Stinger to cover that?
• 5:36
  Speaker 1: Hey? Moving on from that, The most arguably the most
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: controversial car of the last couple of years, and I
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: wanted to get your thoughts on this is the C
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: sixty three. Yes, so hybrid. Now, this is an iconic car,
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: and the whole disgust around it, I guess is the
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: fact that it's hybrid.
• 5:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a real issue with this. Because the
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: C sixty three as it stands now is a tween
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: turbov eight. People weren't expecting it to handle well. It
• 6:05
  Speaker 2: just does big burnouts, It makes lots of noise and
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: it's cool. So when the twin turbovava, yeah, so when
• 6:11
  Speaker 2: you switch it to a four cylinder hybrid, okay, I
• 6:14
  Speaker 2: no longer have the noise, So now I expect this
• 6:17
  Speaker 2: to handle incredibly well. Problem is, all the hybrid equipment
• 6:21
  Speaker 2: they've added is around three hundred kilos heavier. It weighs
• 6:24
  Speaker 2: now about as much as a highlux So what you're
• 6:29
  Speaker 2: doing is you're adding all this stuff in to make
• 6:32
  Speaker 2: it fast in a straight line, but ultimately you're going
• 6:34
  Speaker 2: to sacrifice handling. And they say that it's quicker and
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff, which I get. But you
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: are now comparing an all will drive C class to
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: a rear will drive one, so obviously it's going to
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: be quicker. It doesn't have the noise that it used
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: to have. So what is the purpose of this car?
• 6:47
  Speaker 2: So you would buy a BMW if you wanted the
• 6:50
  Speaker 2: prowess and all that stuff, or an Howdy if you
• 6:53
  Speaker 2: want it all will drive performance. So where does this
• 6:55
  Speaker 2: sit now? I just don't get it.
• 6:57
  Speaker 1: I think the balancing act is really on numbers. Want
• 7:00
  Speaker 1: to kind of improve on numbers, like numbers sell shit
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: on paper. I think that's kind of where they've gone.
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: But as you said, they've sacrificed a lot to get there.
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: I just I'm not feeling it. I'm sure it'll be
• 7:10
  Speaker 2: great when we drive it, you know, I'm sure it will.
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: But if I was in the market now, I'd be
• 7:16
  Speaker 2: buying the last of the V eights and just tucking
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: that away. I don't know that I'd be buying this
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: in ten years time. Who's going to service that.
• 7:24
  Speaker 3: I don't subscribe to the argument they've ditched the twin Turbovo.
• 7:28
  Speaker 3: It's not a real C sixty three because shit moves on.
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: Just deal with it. But indeed, if they are moving
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: to it and it makes improvements purely just on numbers
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  Speaker 1: and not on driver ability, then they've kind of killed
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: an iconic car.
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was always If you think of the
• 7:45
  Speaker 2: last gen, the last naturally aspirated V eight one, that
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: thing was loud and it's just cool.
• 7:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what they always have them.
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Now you're going to have all this noise that
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: isn't really real, And I don't know, I just think
• 7:59
  Speaker 2: that they had V six is available, so why would
• 8:02
  Speaker 2: you not just get a hypo V six and just
• 8:05
  Speaker 2: go to town on that. Instead you've gone a four
• 8:07
  Speaker 2: cylinder turbo which is reserved for a class.
• 8:10
  Speaker 1: The Americans are doing and I'm really pumping in the
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: manufactured noise? What did I see?
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: Was it the show you're thinking of?
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: The Was it the camera?
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: No, Nay, they're doing the the was it the Dodge,
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: the Challenger, the ev They've got all the engineered.
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: Noise and they've like properly put like a boom box
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: underneath the car the blasts noise.
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: How cool does that look? By the way, the Challenger
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: EV it just looks bloody insane and knowing Dodge, they're
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: just going to go stupid with it.
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: And they will make no apologies for it. The fact
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: that they've got a fucking boom box under that car
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: to just make noise. Just to me, I love the
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: I love the audacity behind that.
• 8:56
  Speaker 2: It's it's bloody cool and I think we as actually
• 8:59
  Speaker 2: came out this. You can said that at the moment,
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: you can buy all these aftermarket mopar accessories and other
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: sort of bits and pieces for these cars. They're saying
• 9:09
  Speaker 2: that they won't allow you to modify the EV components
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: in these moving forwards, So I'll be interested to see
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: what happens there.
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: That's interesting, you know when these sorts of cars come
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: out with the EV tech inside them, because you know,
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: gone to the days of putting this in and doing that, and.
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: You know people in air filter people enjoy that sort
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: of stuff. Yeah, yeah, I don't know what you're going
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: to be able to do with this. You might be
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: able to take weight out of it, but if it's
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: all software systems that are fully locked, you will have
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: smart people come along and unlock them. Like with all
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: new cars, all the manufacturers come out with an ECU
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: that's impossible to crack, and then six months later you've
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: got a crack for it. You can start changing things.
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: This will be the same, but there's going to be like.
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: That kick dad with I'm just going to go work
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: on my car because he wants to avoid his wife
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: and children, and he's just like popped the front of
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: it and he's actually just staring into the bit. He's like,
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: there's nothing there. What am I going to do? With
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: these wires, you might.
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: Get electrocutes himself.
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: Where's Dad?
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: Why is the electricity not working anymore? Dad's unfortunately.
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ somewhere dark. Why is the electricity not working? Well,
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: your dad's dead and he did pay the electricity bill.
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: I want you to go into the other room. There
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: is a man coming into the house. And if you
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: hear some noises from mummy, don't panic. I'm just getting
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: the rempaid. Now, turning PlayStation right up. Hey, you know
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: what we should We should include a little intro because
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: Paul did an investigation, so let's call it Paul's investigation.
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: Roll the cool sound effect. Wow, tell me about your investigation, So, detective,
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: all I did was.
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: Write a story about what it's been like owning out
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: Tesla or why, and the article exploded. It's got like
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: three hundred comments now and my brother backstories. I used
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: to be part of the Model three and Model y
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: owners group on Facebook.
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: My god, how you were not a virgin. You're part
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: of the EV Council on one point, so don't lie.
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: You're part of something in your bloody strata committee.
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: I'm in charge of the EV around here. I'm poor.
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: Have you not seen my work on YouTube. I'm big
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: on the YouTube's you semiconductors, do you know what they are?
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: You put a fucking charging port in this place post test?
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: Sorry, So basically I had to leave the group because
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: they were just pissing me off. There. There's just so
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: many Karens and idiots in there who just think that
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: the Tesla is the best thing in the world because
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: it's the first new car they've owned in forever.
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: Anyway, and look good on him. They've stuck a lot
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: of cash into it. I'd enjoy. And when you start
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: making people, I was going to say making people feel
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: like shit, but when you start calling someone out, I'm like, oh,
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: maybe we didn't do the right thing by paying eighty
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars.
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: And maybe use the savior.
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe this isn't the best thing we ever did.
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, well look anyway, I wrote an honest story
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: about what it's like to won't it, And I called
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: out some of the shit things like the ride is
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: terrible and they didn't engineer it correctly. When they did that,
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: we drove it around lang Lang, and the first one
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: that I drove in the wet handled great, So it
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: didn't go that fast. This time around and took my
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: car down and we did a lap of the track
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: at a faster pace like I do with every other car,
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: and it was shockingly bad, Like it had so many
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: issues with the stability control because it has a single
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: motor on the rear axle. Every time you enter a
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: corner and you turn in, the ride is so firm
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: that you unload the wheel that's getting talked to it,
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: and the stability control just starts going bananas. Then, in
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: addition to that, because it has a single motor, when
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: you go for the break, you get regen. If you
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: hit a bump into a breaking zone, it will basically
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: remove regen temporarily because you've hit a bump and then
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: you're breaking modulation changes. So I pointed all this stuff
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: out in the article. I also mentioned that I think
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: it is sin for the ugly. I just don't think
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: it's a good looking car, and that they're now so
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: common that you see them everywhere and it's lost kind
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: of it's appeal. But I talked about the positives, and
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: the positives are the room, you know, some of the
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: features and stuff like that is pretty cool. So I
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: was happy with all that, but then yeah, a lot
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: of the comments on our website were great. They were
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: all quite positive. And then someone sent me screenshots from
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: the Model three and Model WI owners group that I left,
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: and let's just say a lot of Karens were unimpressed
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: with my honest commentary of that vehicle.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: Wow, was any of those commenters Donner?
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: No?
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: This one guy and I won't read out his last name,
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: but it'll probably give it away anyway. So his name
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: was Nicholas, but it was spelt n I k O
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: l a u s And I'm like, Nicolas, Yes, it's
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: like I go, lass, I can see that you were
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: probably bullied growing up. And he wrote ha ha ha
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: ha in capital letters. Is this guy for real? Straight away?
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: I know this person is out of touch? And it
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: was because I explained why we bought an s u
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: V because we just had a kid and.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: Touches that guy that's Nicholas, Thanks cockhead.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: Anyway, So yeah, there was a whole bunch of negative
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: comments in there. So and then they.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: Bet you Donna commented, I bet you Donna was like, Pevley,
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: you haven't called me sweeter, you complain about driving this
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: car and the work if you've driven me in the work.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: You know, shoes, She put.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: Me titch over my shoulders.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: It is all on.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: I'll give you fullet on me.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: And I'll tell you your own thing. I want to
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: see you walking down the beach with that big old
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: no Bundy rum like a boogie board. Sheer Donna. Please
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: write back, Please comment, luck, please write back.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: Oh god, but anyway, So yeah, that was that was
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: That was an interesting experiment. There's a lot of debate
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: going on at the moment between EV's and Hydrogen, right,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: and I recently spent a week in the Hyundai Nexso,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: so it's our very first.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: I actually saw it out the front there, did you. Yes,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: quite an interesting looking car.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: It's funny because it's probably the size of a Tucson.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: I don't really know what to compare this to, to
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: be honest, because I'm like, well, that's not really apart
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: from what the Toyota Mari is. Hydrogen, I don't know
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: what to compare it to. It is pretty much the
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: size of a Tucson. It's a bit plain, Jane, isn't it.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: It's a bit Yeah, it looks a bit generic.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: And they actually sold a stack of them to councils
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: in the act.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: I think I think they did a deal. I think
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: they did a deal with about twenty or so of
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: them to Camera and there's literally one charging I think
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: there's one or two charging stations there. Because they're not
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: really selling here, they can't sort of give us a
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: specific price, even though they've done a deal with our politicians,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: but US about fifty eight thousand dollars US, so that's
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: about seventy five and they have.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Lots of subsidies in the US as well.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: I know if that's well, here's the thing. It's also
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: seventy two pounds, which is about one hundred and twenty
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: four Australian dollars, and we're most likely to mirror that.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: So Camera has spent a lot of money on these cars.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: I think the argument is hydrogen is great, but in
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: bigger cars. You probably won't see them in smaller cars
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: such as this twoson or you wouldn't get any smaller.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: I tell you one thing, it was tacked out, lots
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: of safety, was complete weird button fest in the middle.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: You've got to say it, I haven't seen a car
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: with buttons like this for a long time. But twelve
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: point three entertainment. Same with the driver's display, blind spot cameras,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: it's got all the sort of latest tech remote parking,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: assyst all that sort of stuff. Like it's great. I
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: think it even does I don't know what you call it,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: outboard power.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like you can run things.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: You can basically if you going camping or something and
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: you want to plug a toaster in or whatever, you
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: can do all that. So the car's kind of quite
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: tecked out, and it drives pretty good. Rides well, a
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: little bit sort of bumpy here and there. There's a
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: lot more road noise in this than I was expecting,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: But generally, I think it's a good car. Filling up
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: this thing it's about you'll get about six hundred kilometers
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: claimed from it, and it takes about five minutes to
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: fill up, which is amazing. So in one sense, you
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: kind of go, this is where we should be going.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Why we worried about EV's I don't. I mean, you'll
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: be able to explain this a little bit better. But
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: my understanding is the manufacturing around this. It's expensive. I
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: mean it's an expensive car, one hundred and thirty thousand
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: dollars roughly for what is essentially a luxury tuson.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: You're paying an early adopted tax on that. But a
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: hydrogen car is effectively just an EV. You're creating energy
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: using that hydrogen fuel stack. You're then running an electric motor.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: There's a battery there as well, so it is effectively
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: just an EV that uses hydrogen as its energy source
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: instead of a bigger battery that you charge through a cable.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: The thing is, though, that hydrogen it's very, very energy
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: intensive to produce, so when you are producing a lot
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: of hydrogen, you need a lot of energy to produce it.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: That's fine if you're running solar and you're using renewables,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: but ultimately on a huge scale like this, you have
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: to look at the cost effectiveness of doing it. But
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: these vehicles as well, they're safe. There's definitely no safety issues.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: There are a lot of people think hydrogen and get
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: night terrors at the thought of it exploding. I don't
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: think there's ever been a documented ca so this the
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: gas from a hydrogen tack escapes very quickly.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's funny you say that, right, because
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not joking. I was. Every morning when i'd jump
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: in this thing, I'll be like, oh god, there's a
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: there's a smell. Now, I don't want to say that. Yeah,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: oh god, I wish it was done. Just quietly, ladies
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: and gentlemen. Ginna's ready, it comes and you can just
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: picture a number forty two, number forty two. Your meal
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: is ready.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: I hope you like a bit of bloody cheese and
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: your parmesana.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So when I was sitting in this car every morning,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: it would there would be an odd smell and it
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: smelt like not done it. But it smelled like a
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: man of you know, that sort of factory. What am
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I thinking about? It smelled sort of like an artificial gas. Yeah,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: it was odd, but that quickly goes away within thirty seconds.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it sounds like me and Trevor.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I have done a road trip in this car. Generally
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a great car. I don't know.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I like the idea of these taking off a little
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: bit like it'll happen in trucking. I was going to say,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: the transport industry. I really hope this happens.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: There's a company, I think it's called His, and it's
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: an Australian company that's doing hydrogen trucks. And this is
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: where it'll work well because you can set up big
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: refilling stations on the on the freeway and they basically
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: are a good place for trucks to stop and fuel.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: You've got depots that trucks go back to each night.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: It makes sense at the moment. For cars, it's just
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: the market isn't there. It's not big enough, and they're
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: not putting enough energy into it. The other thing to
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: note as well, as governments love hydrogen because it gives
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: them an ability to tax you per liter or per kilogram,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: whereas with evs it's hard to tax them outside of
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: just per kilometer travel. So with this there's a there's
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: a way for them to add a tax onto it,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: and that every time you feel you got to pay
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: that tax.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know, don't quote me on this, but I've
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: got a feeling the deal they did in Canberra was
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: was the fuel was free.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So one has to create that. So yeah, Look,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: I'm excited for the future of it. Ultimately, though, I
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: think that in let's say five years time, when they
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: get this technology better in hydrogen is easier to produce,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I think the batteries will have advanced enough to be
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: small enough to charge at the pace it takes to
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: put this together, and then that means you can still
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: charge an EV at home and stuff. You can't fill
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: a hydrogen car at home, so that is one big
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: disadvantage in comparison to evs.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I think we're going in a great place, like I'm
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: hopeful with stuff like this. When I see this, I
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: go we are actively working on a.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, have we got any comments to read out?
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: There was a lot of backlash about Trevor Standard.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Has anyone slid into our DMS. Hey while you're doing that,
• 21:45
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• 21:48
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• 21:50
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• 21:54
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• 21:57
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• 22:00
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• 22:03
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• 22:05
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• 22:08
  Speaker 1: That's cute our new multimedia guys just checking out our
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: page first time, first time. Look at that he's sixteen
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: years old and his website. He knows his YouPorn. He's
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: laughing like, oh my God, don't tell my mam. She
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: knows she has seen your socks.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Don't google Gordy on that has anyone been in touch?
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: No, no, I can't be bothered. What I mean, Look,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: it's all it's always positive. Actually, I will say this
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: if there is I mean, this is a This show's
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: always been about you guys. I just want to know
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: what people want. So it's more or less of ye, yeah,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: more or less less Trevor, more Maudy and cars as well,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: because I mean we've got we've got some pretty impressive
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: cars coming up. But do you want like the plane
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Jane cars?
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Do you want?
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: What do you want? What do you want from you people?
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Do you want merch? Because I mean I have got
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: a calendar of Paul posing on different cars. It is
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: let's just say it's a homosexual delight.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: As opposed to what else.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Well, a mum's fest.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Well we have email evidence that I am a mum's
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: You are.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: A heart throb amongst the mums.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, guilty as charged. You're a.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Oh god, I feel like you'd probably make you'd make
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: a few appearances at like those baby expos like this. Yeah, no,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: oh my god, do you know what that reminds me.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I once was at Sexpot and I got poked in
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: the eye by a dildo.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I was walking past a stand and like a big
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: sort of fourteen inch thing something going on on stage.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I turned my head for a second. When I turned back,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I got hit in the eye with a big dildo And.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Did Trevor apologize?
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well after I sucked him. Place Leave is a
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: five star writing. I'm looking at me, looking at something
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: else here, but yeah, place Leave is a five star writing.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Please tell everyone about us.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: That would be great.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Please tell your mom because she will. She will get
• 24:19
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