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  Unknown: Anyway, armed with a very large cup of Earl Grey tea,
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  Okay.
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  Well, hi everyone and good evening. Welcome to,
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  Paul English live 153.
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  Yeah. 153. I've just had a lot of fun in the last twenty five minutes, believe you me. I'll try not to bore you about it too much as we kick off the show.
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  We got a special guest on tonight, Max Egan's joining us in about five minutes time.
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  Anyway, hope you're having a lovely day. Welcome to the show.
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  It's been Billy Button technical trouser mayhem here for the last fifteen minutes, and I didn't cause it. Guy Anderson's got a lot to answer for.
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  It's gone very dark here as well. Not in my soul, but outside.
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  Outside. All the lights gone.
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  Hi, everyone. Welcome back. So there I was. I just thought before the show, before I got into makeup as one does,
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  that I go for a little tootle along by the coast you see because as many of you know I'm only about a hundred and hundred and twenty five yards from it. So I thought I better go and get a bit of wind in my sails. I went down, it's beautiful. I look over to the west and there's one of these towering black clouds,
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  which was a thrill because as many of you know we haven't seen any clouds around here for months on end. And I looked at it and it was limned, I think that's the correct word isn't it l I m n e d limned by the final rays of the sun as it's slowly saying goodbye to today
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  and I thought oh that's that's a really great cloud but it's not gonna rain but about five minutes ago just as we were getting set up a huge
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  peel crack of thunder I don't know what it is peel crack doom whatever it was and then an absolute torrent of rain thundering
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  down on the rooftop so we might get a bit a bit of that to lend atmosphere to the show as we move on through.
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  So fun all week, don't know what your week has been like. The technical trouser stuff that was just happening there is as you know we are I'll just do the housekeeping here we're going out on Rumble and YouTube I think everything's going fine there. I did a quick check and we started a little bit early with that stream so hopefully things are good there. We are of course going out over WBN 324 we're on WBN 324 for the next couple of hours over in The States primarily, so welcome to the show you guys and gals and we are of course on food For Thought radio fftradio.com.
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  If you want to chat and, I've got a big screen up here. Well, it's not that big, but it's big enough for me. I've got a screen up with all the, chats on it. We've got the Rumble chat and the YouTube chat.
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  Pick your pick your favorite poison
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  or the FFT radio chat, which, I'm looking at all of them. So, I'll say hi to you in due course,
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  if,
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  the opportunity presents itself throughout the show.
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  So please type away like Billio.
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  Think that's all the housekeeping isn't it? We're probably going out in a few other networks as well. On Global Voice Network, see I always forget someone, and Eurofolk Radio and a couple of others as well. So thanks everyone for picking up the show.
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  I mentioned what did I mention last week?
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  Oh, know there was another thing I wanted to mention. Actually, I thought if I said the word mention I'd remember what it was.
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  Don't know if any of you caught, I know a few actually quite a clutch did, caught
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  Karen Dodd's show yesterday from five till seven here in Jolly old England.
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  She had two cracking guests on. It was a really good sort of tea time show Wednesday.
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  Very very good. I'm bigging it up because I enjoyed it a great deal.
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  She had a guy on called Simon Elmer
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  and
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  he was then joined a little bit later on by David Clues. Now David Clues is the the hardworking Scottish lad that runs Unity News Network on Rumble. That goes out I think just about every night of the week. He does a great job there and Simon Elmer is an author who's written a book on the Islamification
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  of jolly old England. A thrilling topic but a very important one. The thing that was really good about the interview is that
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  he's got a lot of data, lot of information which he brought to bear, lot of numbers
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  and I think it might be worth your while if you didn't catch the show to head on over and download it from fftradio.com
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  or give it a spin because there's some key information in there. It's a little bit more harrowing than you probably imagined,
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  but he is a statistician and has got the numbers in. So things are looking wonderfully fun over here. I also heard another little thing this morning that,
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  the population density of England or certainly of these islands has increased by 20% in the last twenty eight years.
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  That's our and we were pretty densely populated anyway. I think there's only Holland that beats us in terms of human beings per square
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  mile,
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  here in jolly old Europe and all that kind of stuff. So, I just thought I'd give a shout out for that because I really enjoyed it. Also pretty good show with Miles Johnston. Look I'm bigging everybody up tonight.
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  But, he had some cracking guests on on Tuesday evening, so that was was pretty good too. Anyway there you go, I don't just produce shows and sit on them, I actually listen to them as well. Anyway
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  on to tonight's show,
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  I mentioned last week and I actually had a chat with him about ten days ago Max Egan and Max has been able to join us for this evening. So Max hi good evening and welcome to the show.
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  Unknown: Nice to be here Paul thanks for having me on brother.
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  Unknown: It's brilliant to have you on it's great. Mean we've only had the one call and I enjoyed it so much I thought I should have recorded it we could have probably put that out as the show even though it was only about forty minutes long.
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  Time zone wise where are you right now or am I prying too much?
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  Unknown: No I'm in Croatia at the moment so it's pretty close to you. Mean it's only an hour difference I think it's like 09:00 here.
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  Unknown: Yeah
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  Unknown: cool and is it dark and grim and have you got thunderstorms or are you having beautiful weather? It's and hot. It's been really, really hot since I've been here, like, unnaturally hot in Croatia at the moment. Yeah. And but we're expecting some storms tonight, I think. Oh, well, that's good.
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  See how it pans out. Mean they've had really bad fires here down in Split and stuff as well so it's been pretty drastic.
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  Unknown: Really? How long have you been there then? I know you obviously, I guess many people know that you're a bit of a gadabout and you're moving around all over the place but how long have you been sort of ensconced there?
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  Unknown: I've been here since,
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  August 1.
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  Right. I'll just be here for about a month, and then I'll be back to Mexico.
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  I came here for, Liber Pulko to speak in, in Serbia at Liberland.
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  I did that, and, now I'm back in Croatia. It's been
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  unfathomably hot, and we had really bad fires, like, at a place called Amish,
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  which is, just near Split.
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  They had, terrible, terrible fires there just, about a week ago, a few days ago. Very suspect. I mean, the the all these fires are suspect that I'm seeing around the world. But, it did a lot of damage.
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  Of course, nothing blue burnt, which is interesting.
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  And, a forest fire that left a lot of trees standing and turned all the houses to ash like we saw in paradise and other places.
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  So, yeah, that's, kind of interesting.
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  Unknown: Yeah. We've got so I think we've got them over here. I mean, I don't know. What's the temperature at which grass spontaneously
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  combust? Because, really the
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  finger would point to arson and you know they all joke that people arson about, but
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  it's going on everywhere. We have guests on here from Canada, they've had similar things I think in the last three or four weeks there was a lot of that going on.
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  And then you're mentioning the blue houses. Wasn't that the situation over in was it Hawaii a couple of years back? All that kind of stuff with None of the blue stuff burned. Same in Paradise, California. None of the blue roofed houses burned,
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  Unknown: and you would see plastic
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  playground stuff in the backyard that wasn't burnt as well.
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  Yeah. Interesting. Microwaves don't burn plastic.
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  And we've seen fires, like, in Spain, really bad fires here in Croatia,
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  all over the place. It's it's been terrible. And they can actually start fires with lasers. I actually put on my last video. I showed you
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  a new
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  tree
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  felling business where they come and trim branches off your trees, they use laser cannons to do it.
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  So it isn't like this technology doesn't exist, you know? Yeah.
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  Unknown: No. Absolutely not.
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  I was just trying to think I was mentioning the other week that I need to create a memory hole chart for all the things that keep disappearing down the memory hole because
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  I was saying to someone maybe a diary would be good. I don't know how long everybody's memory is for events but I suspect mine's probably no more than two or three months. And if you start adding them up you suddenly see this sort of cluster
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  of all these sort of crazy events which are quickly replaced by the next crazy event. There's just a non stop sort of production line of all this craziness that's going on all the time.
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  Unknown: I guess you're probably aware of speeding up almost. It really is. Like, it's just nuts how quick things are happening and just over and over again.
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  And so much of it, like, it's like a they're just saturating us with stuff. So you never get too much time to focus on anything before the next event comes. And like you say, it's down the memory hole. It's it's crazy. Like, this last
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  couple of years, like, even since
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  maybe the the fade out of COVID since then Yes. I am. It's just been nuts. It's been crazy. And when it isn't crazy, they make sure it is. Like, you're starting wars with Iran and earthquakes in Colombia and whatever. It's just bizarre. The news every day is just bizarre.
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  Unknown: Can you hear my seagulls?
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  Unknown: I do.
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  Unknown: Am to lend atmosphere to cash, man. He hasn't he hasn't actually brought me on the See, it wasn't mine. Yeah. No. You're absolutely right about the events. It's just there's another one. I'll give him a no. It's the most exciting thing in to the
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  three months because the weather has been weird.
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  Now either I'm becoming super paranoid as the years go by, but I don't think so because,
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  we've had long hot summers or certainly longish spells in the past, but this one's been inordinately sort of strange. It's been just
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  relentlessly the same every day. They've been telling us how hot it is, and of course, they're now actually, I haven't seen them big enough the climate change stuff too much, but I think they're just playing with your head. They kind of sort of back it one day and then take it away the next. And, you know, there's a continual sort of disturbance in the communications process so that no one's minds can ever really settle on anything like approximating the truth. It's it's
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  a permanent sort of psychological warfare.
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  Unknown: Well, yeah, mean, even telling you the Okay. I sent I sent him a note in the in the Streamyard studio, but I don't know too much of that chat. Much hotter occasions in England, much hotter stuff. Thank you, Lisa. They do things where they paint the water maps red where they never used to, and they tell you that it's hot. So Yeah. They do. Go and look at weather maps from the from the seventies or even eighties and nineties
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  and look at the temperatures, and it's about the same as what it is. And it's just a weather map, but now it's all painted red.
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  You know? And they they just put that into your mind so you start to think that it's more hot. Okay. I'll try that out. Yeah. And this when I was a kid in Adelaide, you know, fifty years ago. So it's just all propaganda, and it's just controlling the way people think. I mean, that's what the system is all about, bro. Guber Mente control mind. You know? Absolutely.
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  Unknown: Yeah. It is. No. I think the BBC's weather department are probably gonna run out of an ever more intense red.
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  You know? It's, it's 28 degrees, and, of course, it's incredibly red. And you're going well this is just okay, it's fine.
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  Know so yeah all that kind of stuff. Go it now. I
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  know many people here will know you and obviously you know and you've been in this game broadcasting for what fifteen, sixteen years, about 2010, or is it even before that?
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  Unknown: 2008,
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  I started doing my first radio shows. I was sort of speaking online before then,
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  but, yeah, couldn't find any way to harness the power of the Internet. But I got given a radio show on American Voice Radio in 2008. That's when I started making films
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  and started sort of speaking out on YouTube and and in that sort of a format.
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  And so, yes, you know, it's been eighteen years that I've been doing this now. So you're just getting started, just getting used to it by now, right? Yeah. Was
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  Unknown: was there something that sparked you off that launched you into this space? I mean, think I heard a comment from you on something that I was checking out the other day where you said from an early age, and I guess many people think that it's from an early age, although we're all kind of troubled, but is there any sort of particular kind of kickoff event that that really pushed you in this direction more than any other?
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  Unknown: Well, I was
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  like I said, from a very early age, I I knew there was something terribly wrong. I couldn't understand
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  why we had to buy land or pay to be alive or any of that sort of stuff. Like, when I was four years old Mhmm. I wanted to go live in the forest, and my mom told me we couldn't live there because we didn't own the land. And the whole concept of land ownership really kind of freaked me out. And,
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  I started observing people then and realized that no one's talking about anything real. Everyone's just basically
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  talking about nothing. Like, my my mother just talks about other people and stuff, and I'm just observing this when I was a kid. Yep. And, then I went to high school, and they weren't teaching me anything. And I found out when I was eight years old that, my mom told me no one knew how they built the pyramids.
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  So I started reading encyclopedias and trying to find out about the pyramids when I was eight. So by the time I got to high school,
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  I'd read a lot of ancient history and a lot of that sort of stuff and Greek mythology. I was right into that. Rather than Batman comics, I used to enjoy the stories of Odin. Hey. Same here. Same here. Yeah. Yeah. The Greek mythology and and nor Nordic mythology and Egyptian mythology is a great story. You know? So I was into all that sort of stuff. So by the time I got to school, I was arguing with all my teachers because they're teaching me nothing.
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  And so I got kicked out of four high schools by
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  almost halfway through my third year of high school. And I said, this is my good. So I just, I joined a band and, became a a musician
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  and lived on the outside of society for most of my life
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  and continued to do that and continued to always work in music and researching all this stuff as a hobby until the nine eleven attacks happened in 2001.
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  And then I thought, oh, holy shit. This this is serious. This is the big event we've been waiting for. So then I I was kinda switched and became more active. And I was hitting chat rooms and Yahoo chat and all this sort of stuff in 2003
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  to 2005.
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  And then in, 2008,
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  I discovered YouTube. And I I thought because YouTube didn't I think it it was invented in 2005,
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  I think.
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  Unknown: And I thought it was just a place Early days of it. Yeah. Those early days. It was before it it became the behemoth that it is now. But yeah.
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  Unknown: Yeah. I thought that it was just a place that kids uploaded their their, you know,
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  home movies and shit too. You know? But then in 2000 and
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  like, late two thousand and seven, I discovered there was actually a whole bunch of truth stuff on there.
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  And I thought, oh, shit. I can do that. So I made a film. Didn't think anyone would watch it, but everyone did. And suddenly, I got, offered radio interviews and all sorts of stuff. And I did a couple of radio interviews and then got offered a radio show. So I did a talk back radio show from 2008
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  until 2019
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  and then thought, I I need a break from this. So I took a break, and then the Australian fires broke out, and then COVID happened. All this stuff happened. So I ended up making you know, doing four times as much work as what I did when I said I needed the break. So I still haven't had that break. But, that's how I got on the path. I mean, you do this because it needs to be done. You observe what's going on in the world and you realize that, you know, if you know this stuff and you can see what's going on, you kind of have an obligation to share it with other people.
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  Otherwise, you're part of the problem. So that's why I started doing it. Yeah.
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  Unknown: The radio the radio stuff then, where were you based then? Were you still in Australia at that time, or had you started to sort of move around a bit? No. I was still in Australia, and I was offered a a radio spot by a station in Kansas
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  Unknown: called, American Voice Radio.
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  One of the guys contacted me. I put out a film called The Big Picture, and this guy contacted me and said, I wanna have you on for an interview.
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  And I'm like, what? Is this a hit piece? And he said, no. No.
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  I've been trying to wake up my neighbor for five years and I can't. And I showed him your film and I wake him up. So I want to have you on to talk about your film. So I did that. And then the the radio station said, wow. The phones are ringing off the hook. Everyone loves your accent and blah blah blah. We wanna offer you What accent? What are you talking about?
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  Unknown: Yeah. My Australian accent. Yeah. Yeah. No. It trades well in The States, doesn't it? Does it? It trades well. Oh, well, it did. Yeah. And
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  Unknown: I was really surprised, but he said, yeah, I wanna I wanna give you your own radio slot. So I was on that show, Surviving the Matrix, for eleven years. I I stayed on that radio station,
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  And that's sort of how I started doing it. I used to do the radio show and then I'd do a slideshow to go with it and post it on YouTube. Know? So that's how it all happened. Yeah. Then I got kicked off YouTube five years and they just let me back on about, oh, no. Eight months ago, ten months ago.
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  Unknown: Why did they kick you off?
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  As if I could. I can't imagine.
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  Why?
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  I wonder why.
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  They do seem to be a lot less on the censorship, they seem to be looser than they were. It's as if something happened when
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  Musk kind of released the censorship things to some degree on x supposedly,
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  that they kind of let go a little bit as well.
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  Unknown: I suspect they're phishing.
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  Like, I've got two stories in my channel at the moment.
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  If I upload anything else and they give me another strike, then my channel will be deleted. So I'm just not uploading anything until after probably October 4.
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  Right. Then I'm
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  allowed back on then I I can gather up a couple more strikes in if I need to.
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  But I'm also banned from X until October 4. They gave me a three month ban.
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  They didn't like me picking me up for Palestine.
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  But I I think they've let us all back on YouTube because they're fishing. Also, was a large truth movement growing on BitShoot,
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  and
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  they wanna shut that down. So they want people to leave BitShoot and go back to YouTube.
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  And if they do that, then it will take all the funding away from BitShoot, it will end up closed down. Then they'll kick us all off YouTube again, and we won't have a a free speech platform.
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  I mean, Bitchute, for all of its problems, it's it's still
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  the most free speech platform that we've got.
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  I was a little bit disconcerted. I found out a a few weeks ago that Laura Luma had been invited to speak or to as as one of the board of advisers on BitShoot.
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  Oh, dear. I later found out that was in two thousand and five two thousand and fifth twenty five, and she's gone now. She's not on the board anymore. So,
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  I think perhaps a little bit of,
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  naivety caused that.
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  But, anyway, I mean, it's still the best free speech
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  platform we got, but I think it's banned in
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  Unknown: Yeah it is. Yeah.
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  There's a few people. Eric's one of them who's just lurking in the studio. He might come in a little bit later on in the interview and stuff, but people upload that. In jolly old England you need a VPN to get there,
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  know people oh that's easy. In
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  Unknown: jolly old ego I heard that 1,200 people have been arrested for Facebook posts.
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  It's crazy.
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  Unknown: Yeah probably a week.
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  I mean it's nuts. I think it was something like about 11 to 12,000 people last year seriously. It's
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  nuts. It's absolutely nuts and I think you you'd have to drill that. 12,000
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  Unknown: instead of 1,200 I was thinking of. Maybe.
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  Unknown: I'm sure it's that I'm sure it was that big. It was sort of dwarf you know real policing they don't do that anymore as everybody now knows.
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  Oh well not everybody but many many know that.
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  I
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  mean I just put that down to it's the same tactic as making certain words forbidden going all the way back to Bolshevik Russia and probably even before that you demonize certain words. That's how it starts off. You leave that for a couple of years and then you start to push people for using those words and nobody's actually worked out what the definition of the words is. And most of the stuff is just people trying to tell things straight,
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  but they get painted a particular way and then, way, that's you demonized. We can get you kicked off and all that kind of stuff. And yeah it's got out of it's absolutely mad. I mean I heard something even today
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  where the police
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  so called over here are trying to ask questions to try and ascertain what you've been thinking.
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  Seriously.
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  Unknown: What you've been thinking. That's
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  what search engines are all about, brother.
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  Yeah.
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  A search engine, you're not just looking for data. You using a search engine, you tell
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  the Internet what you're thinking.
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  And new laws that have come in in Australia,
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  the cops want to be able to,
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  clone people's
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  cell phones at traffic stops.
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  Okay? Mhmm. You know, they can take your phone. If you're if you use your phone for searching the Internet and all that sort of stuff and you you do all your stuff on your phone,
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  then they can clone all that. They can, see everything you've deleted. They can, get anything that's been redacted. They can unredact it,
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  and they can see your entire
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  browsing history.
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  Because people have to show ID in order to activate SIM cards now, they've had to do this for the last few years,
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  they with your name and your number, they can go back through every SIM card you've had, every phone you've had, right back since the history the entire history of the Internet.
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  So this is what's coming in in Australia,
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  and
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  it will if it comes in in Australia, it will come in in England. It will come in everywhere else. This is how they do it. Mhmm. But the the amount of data they can get I mean, this is what all these data centers are being built for.
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  This and, for robot control and all sorts of stuff. People are generating so much data by using these cell phones.
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  Like your cellphone has a barometer in it. It knows when you get in and out of a car. It knows when you go up and down stairs.
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  You have two or three cellphones
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  in a room together and you can, triangulate the room, map the room, get a three d
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  visual of the room. They can basically see through the walls,
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  you know, like Matrix, you know, if, if you've got three cell phones
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  in the room.
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  And they generate an enormous amount of data.
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  There was a talk one of the guys from Palantir
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  was in a restaurant, and he said to someone
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  there was a conversation going on at the table next to him. This guy overheard the conversation. He was from Palantir, and he chimed in, and he said,
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  what's going on in Gaza has been a blessing for Palantir.
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  I mean, sure, the genocide is terrible, but it's been a blessing for Palantir because we've been able to find how people react in emergencies.
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  He said when someone has a cell phone and the cell phone is stationary,
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  it doesn't give us any data. But if they're moving around with the cell phone, when you've got hundreds of people all moving together in panic because there's been a bomb explosion or whatever, it gives us so much data. And this is what we've used to be able to,
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  finalize the Palantir system.
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  So this is what what is happening. And people use AirPods,
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  these wireless
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  earphones. You see people joggers using these things. These things let off a a wireless beep every thirty seconds.
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  If you've got a smartwatch on or you've something that's measuring how many steps you take or whatever that these, runners do, if you have three things on you, like you got your cell phone, you've got your ear pods, you've got your smartwatch,
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  Then that creates a unique digital fingerprint
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  of you.
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  And
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  you might notice around town up on lampposts, and sometimes when you walk into a shopping center or a building, you'll see a little white box up on the wall or up on the post or something. Looks like a well, this looks like a modem or something like that, like a like a router.
• 26:36
  This is actually a sniffer,
• 26:38
  and it sniffs what,
• 26:40
  electronic circuitry you've got on you. So you might get on a bus. There's a sniffer on the bus. You get off the stop. There's a sniffer at the stop. You go into the supermarket. There's a sniffer in the supermarket.
• 26:50
  It recognizes the three or four pieces of wireless equipment that you have on you, and it tracks and traces you everywhere you go. It knows who you interact with.
• 27:00
  They can turn your speaker on your phone into a microphone. Well, your phone's got a microphone on it anyway. They can turn this on, listen to your conversations whenever they want. Even if you have a a smart TV,
• 27:11
  they can turn your speaker on your TV into a microphone and listen to the conversations going on in your room even if your TV is switched off. If it's still done for you.
• 27:21
  Unknown: I'm done for.
• 27:23
  Unknown: Yeah. I know. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. I mean, you've gotta unplug all these things when you're not using them. If it's switched off, they can still access it. There was a guy in, Australia.
• 27:32
  It was about five years ago. There was a guy in Australia who was arrested because the police were listening to his breakfast conversation
• 27:40
  through his smart fridge.
• 27:42
  He was suspected of, being he was planning a robbery, and he actually was.
• 27:47
  But that this is what they used to to justify
• 27:50
  their use of smart technology. I mean, what's the chances of your refrigerator being online and having a microphone in it, and the cops can turn that microphone on any time? This is the sort of society we're walking into, and people are just doing it blindfolded.
• 28:04
  They just don't realize
• 28:06
  what they're getting involved in and how easy it actually would be to stop it if we just stopped using the tech that they're rolling out to enslave us.
• 28:14
  Unknown: Yeah. I I yeah. I mean, I think
• 28:18
  the word easy I understand where you're coming from I tend to feel that human habit
• 28:24
  and you know you've been around a little bit and I've been around a little bit and I notice as the years go by I have developed habits.
• 28:31
  The worst ones are the ones I'm not fully conscious of, of course. You get conscious of certain ones, but I know that if I've got to change the whoop and woof of my day,
• 28:40
  it's far more of a challenge than it used to be when I was younger.
• 28:44
  My day wasn't as cemented, I didn't have as many clear definite ideas about things when I was 16 as I did when I was 60.
• 28:51
  And changing habit I think is
• 28:53
  a major sort of issue, it's a bit like weight loss. People go oh I'm overweight, I've got to lose weight and they bang around for years and years and years and there's a fundamental change that they need to make which is you know stop eating so many pies or whatever,
• 29:06
  but they never get around to doing it because of habit. And I think obviously, I think our would be controllers know this. They know about our sort of habit rates, the the speed at which we can acquire new ones, and so on and so forth. I mean, the smartphones are interesting because I didn't get one until relatively late. I was quite happy with a Nokia up until about 2006
• 29:25
  or something like that, but that means I've had one for twenty years now.
• 29:28
  And I don't really use it as a smartphone. I've really got one messaging app that I use all the time and that's about it.
• 29:34
  But that's probably lame because I do accept that, yeah, the microphones are there and in the end is so convenient.
• 29:41
  And you know this is one of the ways that they get us all the time by providing lots of lovely convenience,
• 29:46
  a bit like supermarkets are so convenient which leads to the decimation of the high street.
• 29:50
  So no doubt they've planned every single little sort of tick and detail out with regards to this process of slowly seducing us into a much more compliant condition where we're much more easy to boss around, you know.
• 30:03
  Unknown: Yeah. Well, you know, the phone is,
• 30:05
  it's an interesting thing because
• 30:07
  I mean, I don't use them either. I've I've got a phone because, like, the, airline company in Mexico, the only way you can get your tickets is to download it onto a phone. You can't download it into WhatsApp or anything. You've got it has to be a phone.
• 30:21
  So I use it for that, and that's bit of I've never made a phone call on her. It doesn't leave the house with me except when I go traveling. I download airline tickets on it, and then I turn her off, and it stays off until I have to put new airline tickets on. I've actually never made a phone call on the phone. But the thing is it's even if you don't use it, it's the fact that you carry it around with you everywhere is the problem. So it's it's giving
• 30:44
  them data whenever you leave the house with this thing,
• 30:47
  and it gives them the opportunity to triangulate where you are. Like I said, there's these sniffers everywhere who just track and trace what you do and where you go, who you interact with. They're able to predict your movements because, like you said, we're creatures of habit. It's an interesting thing. I mean, my life
• 31:02
  is
• 31:03
  kind of functioned in a way I haven't been able to develop
• 31:07
  too many habits and don't it's always been a transient lifestyle. Like, I've been in Mexico for five years now. I still haven't fully unpacked my suitcases
• 31:16
  because I'm just not used to unpacking my suitcases.
• 31:19
  You know?
• 31:20
  Yeah. I lived with a musician for most of my life and traveled most of my life. I've been you know, it's very transient lifestyle. It's very easy for me to adjust
• 31:29
  to just being a a a roaming person, like a nomadic lifestyle.
• 31:34
  So, that that's kind of interesting. And I've never really needed a phone. I just don't use the phone.
• 31:40
  So, I mean, if people would stop using these things and stop taking them with them everywhere, go back to just flip phones, just use them for phone calls. Don't use them to surf the Internet.
• 31:50
  Don't hook up to all these wireless devices and all this sort of stuff. I mean, if people would simply do that stop shopping with credit cards.
• 31:58
  Because when you shop with credit cards, you you create a paper trail of of what you buy, what you eat. You become very predictable,
• 32:05
  and you feed the data centers. All the people complaining about the data centers can complain all they want, but if they're carrying their cell phone around with them everywhere they go and delivering data every thirty seconds to some sniffer somewhere,
• 32:18
  and, you know, your cell phone's letting off a ping every thirty seconds, it might even be every ten seconds now,
• 32:23
  you know, and you're shopping with a credit card, then you're supplying all the data for these data centers. So, yeah, if we stopped using our cell phones, dragging cell phones around us, and stop shopping with credit cards,
• 32:35
  we would we would bring the system to its knees in a week.
• 32:38
  Unknown: Poor people. Are we gonna do that? What do you think? I mean, can we come up with a tablet that everybody could take? I know.
• 32:44
  Unknown: Well, that's challenge. People won't do it. People say, well, you'll never get people to do that. Well, you can't speak for other people. Well, you're speaking for yourself. What you're saying is, no. I will never do that. That's what I always say to them. You know? And, unfortunately, that's the situation that we got. So, yeah, we're in a state of clear and present danger, and the the ones who are running the whole thing, it's all dependent on our compliance.
• 33:08
  If we stop complying for one week, we change the system.
• 33:12
  You know? If we stop tolerating wrong behavior and stop staring stepping out of our moral compass every day,
• 33:18
  then we change the world in in three seconds.
• 33:21
  But people won't do that. You know? People are kept in an artificial state of scarcity through this money system. They they're taught never to trust each other. I mean, everything you see on the news is is death and war and, oh my god, your neighbors wanna kill you. Don't trust the guy down the road. Never turn your back on anyone. Drug addicts everywhere. Crime everywhere.
• 33:40
  All crime is is created generally because people are in a state of scarcity,
• 33:44
  apart from crimes of passion. You know? It's generally because people are kept in a state of scarcity because of this monetary system,
• 33:51
  which isn't designed to help us. It isn't even the people who control the world don't even want money. They want power. No. Money No. They don't. There to keep people in shortage. That's its entire purpose.
• 34:03
  Yeah. It is. Need to work this out. We need to grow up and stop believing we need parents, I. E. Government,
• 34:09
  and all become adults again,
• 34:11
  and just say, hey, we don't want to do this anymore. It would be great to see. Are we gonna do it? That's the question. I would say
• 34:17
  90% of the population
• 34:20
  dragging the other 10% off the cliff. Unfortunately,
• 34:24
  I don't see too many ways of stopping it now. So what my focus has really been is on trying to
• 34:30
  empower people so that we have some sort of spark of consciousness that makes it through to the other side. I've all been sort of been suggesting that people create time capsules and things and leave information behind so that those who come after
• 34:44
  Unknown: know what happened. You notice they're destroying all the books for the AI. Have you looked at that? Yeah. I've seen that. Yeah. I mean, I don't know how many copies there are of these books, but they're chewing through plenty of them. I mean, if they get multiple copies of the same book because they need to chew through it, then and I guess what with currency,
• 35:02
  the
• 35:03
  monopoly money that they manufacture,
• 35:05
  there's really no objective that they can't achieve because they've got everybody
• 35:09
  effectively as currency addicts for the reasons you were just talking about. Know,
• 35:14
  there's a comment you'll have heard it loud like they're making all this money, but you're right. They don't need it.
• 35:20
  I think their main goal is to ensure that you don't get sufficient to actually start being able to do some independent things that they would have more difficulty restraining you on. They don't want, you know, if it's what we would do were we to have,
• 35:33
  and not be in that situation of ongoing anxiety
• 35:36
  about the bill. We, you know, the the society is an anxiety society. It's a type of psychological warfare. It's completely unnecessary.
• 35:44
  Of course they've got everybody believing well at least I'm free.
• 35:46
  Yeah alright.
• 35:50
  I
• 35:51
  live in a free democracy that people will tell you. I've often thought Max that you know prisons exist
• 35:57
  to make everybody who's not in prison think that they're not in a prison. I'm not you well you're not in that one yeah you're not in that one you're just in another one but you're not looking because you can't you know if you look at Soka what passes for education and your rebellious nature at school would indicate this they're not actually providing you with the information that you really need to develop as a human being. I mean why would we expect them to do that? We wouldn't given what we know now,
• 36:21
  but you know you'd think it might have been at some point in the past
• 36:25
  probably a good goal. Why don't we actually tell them about how currency works or how the law works?
• 36:31
  And, I don't know about your education, but they didn't tell me one word about those things up until the age of 18, and you have to discover it all for yourself.
• 36:39
  Unknown: Yeah. I mean, currency and and money is is
• 36:43
  truly the root of all evil. I don't I actually don't think we had that,
• 36:47
  in the ancient world in the in the way
• 36:49
  we're dependent on it now.
• 36:51
  No. I think we had more of a guild based society.
• 36:55
  I look at some of the incredible buildings
• 36:57
  through Europe,
• 36:59
  some of those incredibly
• 37:00
  ornate
• 37:01
  structures and churches and things. And I I don't also, I don't believe that churches were actually constructed as places of worship.
• 37:08
  I think they had a higher function.
• 37:10
  I think a lot of those buildings were actually functional, but the point is people never would have created buildings of that
• 37:17
  beauty
• 37:18
  and that delicate
• 37:19
  detail if they were being paid by the hour. They were creating these buildings because they loved to build, and they were artistic in what they did.
• 37:26
  And the the more they could do it, the better they were at it at their craft, whether it was building or whether it was was, building ships or whether it was making roads or whether it was, you know, farming or whatever it was that people did.
• 37:39
  One if they became really good at it and they would teach other people and have apprentices,
• 37:44
  then that would give them esteem in the community.
• 37:47
  And if you're a master builder, yeah, come to our community. Wow. This guy is he's he's a master builder. He built this incredible structure, and he's he's trained 200 apprentices.
• 37:56
  So, yeah, please come to our town. We'll give you a home. We'll give you food. We'll give you everything. Please train our children to be as good as you. You know? And that's the way our society functioned.
• 38:06
  We used to trade skills with each other. I once had a book of receipts when I was younger, when I was about
• 38:12
  20 years old. I lost it, unfortunately.
• 38:16
  But it was an old book of receipts. It was like, you know, a 100 years old, and it was like a notebook
• 38:21
  and like a leather bound notebook,
• 38:24
  and it had, recipes in it because a receipt was a recipe. There's only one letter different in recipe and receipt.
• 38:31
  And people used to trade recipes with each other.
• 38:34
  And, like, for example, you might be someone
• 38:37
  who needed a fence built for your your house,
• 38:40
  and you didn't know how to build a fence. So I would come around and I'd build the fence for you, and in the process, I would show you how to build the fence.
• 38:50
  And in return, you would show me how to build a wagon wheel for my cart that I brought my tools around on because I need a new wagon wheel. So we'd trade skills and would be a recipe for a a wagon wheel, a recipe for how to build a bridge, a recipe for how to train a horse,
• 39:06
  a recipe for how to,
• 39:08
  make a glue from three different trees.
• 39:11
  You know, things like this.
• 39:12
  Yes. We trained we traded in skills. That's the sort of society we had, and that's how we achieved all those incredible
• 39:19
  buildings and all those things that we did. It was nothing like what we what we have now, and money has has put a stop to all of that because now it's all about collecting this stuff,
• 39:29
  which they've made it incredibly hard to get. And you have this barrier
• 39:33
  this barrier of paper that exists to to keep you from the abundance that is all around you, And now they're taking it even more, and they're turning that into a digital barrier, a nonexistent virtual barrier
• 39:44
  around you so you can't access the abundance that is all right there at your fingertips.
• 39:50
  It's crazy. Yeah.
• 39:54
  Unknown: Mean from our perspective you're right, it's crazy. From their perspective it's obviously that they're made of different stuff. I don't know what they're made from, I don't really care to know to be quite honest, although it might be useful from a tactical or strategic point of view, but they're committed to dominating all life. It's like Sauron from Lord of the Rings,
• 40:13
  know it really is. Mean I can't really put it any other way. It's been
• 40:16
  you know some people say well it's very impressive what they've done. Well not really, mean it's impressive from the point of view of the amount of cunning and deceit that they've employed, but this seems to come to them naturally.
• 40:27
  There's a cult, a culture within that space
• 40:30
  that does all these things. Mean going back to the buildings that you were mentioning as well,
• 40:35
  that whole thing about skill sets is that
• 40:38
  things were in the right order because the value was in people,
• 40:41
  which it actually always is and can only be in people in terms of what they can do and offer and provide service to others.
• 40:49
  And
• 40:50
  they've pushed that out. It's this middleman it is as developed,
• 40:53
  know, and their control of the currency systems is the great weapon that they've wielded against us to effectively subdue people. You know, oh you can't do that without a loan from the bank. When you then start looking into what the loan is,
• 41:07
  it's a nothing burger
• 41:09
  and it's all I mean it's basically it's a whole sort of series of intimidation points up and down the line in your life, so that you fear
• 41:16
  you're induced with anxiety about the repayment of a debt. I mean one of the interesting things over here, I don't know what the
• 41:23
  so called national debt of Australia is, I think in The States it's something like $38,000,000,000,000
• 41:28
  which is fun,
• 41:30
  and over here we're now at £3,000,000,000,000
• 41:34
  Unknown: kicker though.
• 41:35
  Yeah,
• 41:38
  Unknown: lovely that's great. But we've
• 41:41
  got guys around here on this station who are looking into this and elsewhere.
• 41:46
  That money in our case there's £3,000,000,000,000
• 41:49
  or that currency I should say because it's not money.
• 41:52
  This currency is actually owed to us.
• 41:56
  They need to pay it back to us. Now knowing all these I mean the thing I sort of I think where the sticking point is you know about in terms of what to do,
• 42:05
  like change your habits and don't use your phone is one part of it. But it's looking at there's no shortage of truth in this space.
• 42:13
  There isn't a shortage of it. We've actually got an abundance of truths
• 42:17
  and very knowledgeable people who've tunneled into these things and come back.
• 42:21
  Getting that transmitted though to that 90%,
• 42:24
  you know and when you were saying that I have this internal fight all the time is should we be reaching out to the 90% or is this completely mad?
• 42:34
  You ever gonna get them, and do we need them? Maybe we don't need maybe we only need five or 6% of people switched on to act as that fulcrum, that pivot point to swing things around.
• 42:45
  Because the crowd tend to follow when they see
• 42:49
  winners, I suppose, for want of a better word. I don't know what you think about that. Yeah. I mean, I
• 42:54
  Unknown: don't even do
• 42:56
  shows
• 42:57
  designed to wake people up anymore. Try to just empower those people who are awake. And you're right. We don't need
• 43:03
  all the people to do it. And you never will. Like 90% of them are NPCs. They will never ever wake up. They will simply follow wherever they're led and you could change the world and they wouldn't even notice.
• 43:14
  Yeah. So there's no point in doing that, but
• 43:18
  it's getting the people that are awake motivated to actually do something. And all they really have to do is say no.
• 43:25
  Stand
• 43:26
  up together. Like, even there's a huge
• 43:29
  thing happening in Australia on
• 43:31
  the August 30,
• 43:33
  and they're trying to, take action
• 43:36
  against all this surveillance stuff that I was just telling you about, the fact that the cops want to clone your cell phone and all this sort of stuff,
• 43:43
  and lack of free speech, everything that's happening in Australia.
• 43:47
  And there's gonna be a big rally on August 30, and I put in my last show. I was saying, well, what are you gonna do with the rally? What are you gonna do? March to places in the city, and then what are people gonna get up and give a big speech, and then you're all gonna go home and feel like you've done something?
• 44:03
  You know? Why don't you march to Canberra the way you did during COVID? Like, 1,500,000
• 44:08
  people went to Canberra,
• 44:09
  and then the controllers leading the, you know, the freedom movement in Australia told them all to go home. Okay. You've come here. You've made your point. Go home now. And I'm going, no. Don't go home.
• 44:21
  Hold these people's feet to the fire. There's 1,500,000
• 44:25
  of you here.
• 44:26
  Tell the politicians to come out and talk to you. And if they won't, then go to the governor general and tell the governor general you wanna express a loss of confidence in the government.
• 44:36
  You you want,
• 44:37
  you wanna express, you wanna have a a dissolve
• 44:41
  the government
• 44:42
  and, replace it with people of integrity.
• 44:45
  You know? So that's what you want. You you can't just go to these rallies and and offer lip service. I mean, they're taking your freedoms away. They've abdicated any privilege they had to govern these people. I mean, the Australian government, there was papers
• 44:59
  tabled in the Australian government ten years ago saying that all these people were involved in pedophilia.
• 45:04
  We've seen what's going on with the Epstein files. You know? This is the bottom line. I mean, look at what's come out with the release of the Epstein files,
• 45:11
  and look at what we've just seen witnessed in Gaza,
• 45:15
  the genocide of the people of Palestine. And there's no debating whether this is genocide.
• 45:20
  Look at some of the stuff that we've seen coming out of Israel. Ben Gavir, the other day,
• 45:25
  said, yes. I've I've made enormous strides for the country. I've passed a law whereby
• 45:31
  we are going to it is now legal to execute Palestinians.
• 45:34
  He didn't say Palestinian prisoners. He just said Palestinians. We're gonna execute Palestinians.
• 45:39
  I'm building a facility to do it, and I've taken steps so it can be livestreamed so the people in Israel can watch it live, watch the executions live. I saw that. And this is a major genocide.
• 45:50
  This is being funded by all of our politicians.
• 45:53
  They lied through COVID.
• 45:55
  They're funding the genocide of the Palestinian people, and we found out through the Epstein files that they all torture,
• 46:01
  rape,
• 46:02
  terrorize, and eat children.
• 46:05
  They've abdicated any privilege they ever had to govern.
• 46:09
  What on earth is keeping them in power? It's the fact that people don't believe in themselves. They're not prepared to call this out. They think there's a legal remedy to it. No. It's a it's a puppet show. It's a theatre it's like the the man behind the curtain in the wizard of oz. Okay? Why do people think that these parasites
• 46:27
  have any authority over them when they've abdicated any privilege they ever had to do that? We gotta stop calling them elites. They're not elites. They're parasites
• 46:35
  who've moved them maneuvered themselves into a position of power and convinced everybody to believe that they have to pay to be alive.
• 46:43
  You know, you're living in a people farm. I've been saying this for twenty years. You're living in a people farm.
• 46:48
  They're harvesting children, millions of them every single year. This is what's going on, and they've created this whole system so people are running around on the treadmill collecting paper and doing all this stuff that they think is important when it isn't. None of it's important. What's important is being the best you can at being you and exploring what that spark of consciousness actually means to exist.
• 47:11
  I don't even mean the best version of yourself. Just be you to the fullest of your potential. That's what you came here to do, and we've given all that away. And we're locked in this system where we believe we've got to ask permission to do everything. We've got to do this, run on the treadmill, collect paper, go and buy food from the trucks. You know, we're all truckitarians.
• 47:28
  No one knows how to look after themselves anymore.
• 47:31
  It's crazy. It's just insane. So when you see all this, I mean,
• 47:36
  what is the remedy? Sure. I can see the remedy. Stop using the text. Stop doing this. But there's, like, billions of people out there that simply aren't gonna do that. And half of them, I mean, honestly, we're
• 47:46
  by idiots. We really are. Mean, look at look at what's going on in The Middle East, and look look at what's going on, like, in India and Pakistan and all. Like, look at these people. Honestly, look at the the the mental state of the migrants that are coming into the country. I know. It's just crazy.
• 48:02
  Absolutely nuts. So what do we do? There's nothing we can really do. What we've gotta do is hope that that spark of consciousness makes it through to the other side. You know? This system's gotta crash and burn. There's no way there's any repairing of this system, unfortunately.
• 48:16
  But that's the state of the world, brother, and it gets it gets very difficult to try to come on to these shows and, like, offer something positive.
• 48:24
  Unknown: And you have opportunities like this big march to I thought you were doing quite well there. I thought that was quite positive.
• 48:30
  Holy moly. Yeah.
• 48:31
  Unknown: There is, like, things like this big march to Canberra, which is great, but but don't just stop there with the march and then off the lip service and go home. Use it to actually replace the government because they're all criminals. We have all the evidence we need to prove that. It's it's not even a negotiable point. They've advocated their privilege to govern, tell them to get out of the building, and replace them with people of integrity.
• 48:52
  Unknown: Yep.
• 48:54
  Yeah. No. I mean, I'm
• 48:56
  talking more and more recently over the past few weeks with people over here
• 49:00
  who are looking at things such as,
• 49:03
  and look this is going into the document world, but it's their abuse of documents that's part of it such as Magna Carta, the Bill of Rights, the Act of Settlement.
• 49:11
  What's quite clear for example,
• 49:14
  there's a lovely phrase the redress of grievances,
• 49:17
  you've no doubt got it down there, which is really what courts,
• 49:20
  if you've got any courts, are supposed to be. But it turns out we don't have courts.
• 49:25
  We don't even really have
• 49:27
  we the people do not have a police force that is there to safeguard the people. It's a private corporation.
• 49:33
  All of these things are being tunneled into. Of course you end up with encyclopedias
• 49:37
  of detail,
• 49:39
  because it's
• 49:41
  their sort of attack on us is encyclopedic.
• 49:44
  It's not new, it's just sort of coming to a fulmination here because of technology.
• 49:48
  They're on you know they're probably on cloud nine with their ability now to micromanage
• 49:52
  every single one of their cattle, which is the way that they view us. And I think you're absolutely right about that. Mean I've just really thought that we live on a tax farm, we're just there to be milked for tax
• 50:02
  and nobody even knows why they pay it because
• 50:04
  it's clearly the case that you don't even need tax to run
• 50:08
  a nation. You don't need it. It's not there to run the nation, it's there to make sure that the purchasing power doesn't accumulate
• 50:14
  in the cattle.
• 50:15
  They don't want you being able to go off and do certain things that they don't regulate. Yeah and there's
• 50:20
  there's always an intermediary, there's always regulator or an authority, a human authority system that stands in the way of you being able to express and do things as a creative individual. And more people are probably creative than they know, it's just that they've never been given the opportunity to be that way for long enough to discover what their talents are, which is part of the great tragedy of the whole thing. I mean it's just it's a totally different it's
• 50:43
  an irreconcilable
• 50:45
  view about how life should be conducted down here. It's irreconcilable.
• 50:48
  There is there's no I mean imagine,
• 50:52
  maybe you have imagined, you know being called up to a meeting of these guys and having a chat with them. Do you think they would be able to comprehend
• 50:59
  any sentence that you say? I don't. You
• 51:03
  would have an event where there would be the appearance of communication,
• 51:06
  but none would be taking place.
• 51:08
  None.
• 51:10
  Well, you're
• 51:12
  Unknown: talking about the the rulers, the ruling parasites,
• 51:15
  just the people in general.
• 51:17
  Unknown: The ruling parasites. Let's suppose let's suppose you and I get invited to a meeting
• 51:22
  Unknown: There'd no point. Nations as there'd be no point, would they? They'd be looking fascinated at us that this parrot is so eloquent. You know? Look look how well this bird can talk. This mouse is talking to me before I squash on him or whatever. Yeah. They wouldn't they don't it it doesn't register. They don't care. They you know? And if you were said anything that actually exposed what they were doing, then they probably wouldn't let you leave.
• 51:43
  You know?
• 51:44
  There's there's no point talking to them. They do what they do because it's what they wanna do. And what's going on here? I said in my first film, World War three has already started. It's a war of depopulation.
• 51:56
  I've said, all the cities and the fact that we're all Tracutarians,
• 52:01
  we're all we've all lost our life scores. In the last hundred years, the most remarkable thing that's happened and the most scary thing that's happened is a massive loss of life skills. We now live off food trucks. All of our industries have been taken offshore.
• 52:14
  All they've got to do they've they've set up this whole system of international codependency where no one really knows how to do anything.
• 52:20
  All they have to do is shut down the supply chain,
• 52:22
  and we're gone.
• 52:24
  And we're being set up for a fall.
• 52:26
  And you look at what they've done. They've blocked off the side of Hormuz, all this this bullshit war with Iran, which is all completely theatrical,
• 52:34
  and flooding the whole place with migrants.
• 52:37
  This is they're just gonna shut it down, and things are gonna happen, and society is just gonna eat itself, basically. It's gonna be crazy.
• 52:44
  And
• 52:45
  the whole
• 52:47
  system they've got I mean, it's they're doing it deliberately.
• 52:50
  The whole thing is about depopulation.
• 52:52
  If you look at the the guys with small hats who are carrying out the genocide in Gaza,
• 52:57
  their was to destroy Amulek. They're setting up enclaves everywhere. There's far, far more than 15,000,000 of these people. There's at least four or 500,000,000, if not more.
• 53:06
  They're setting up huge enclaves in Ukraine, in Argentina,
• 53:10
  Baja Peninsula in Mexico. They've setting up a huge enclave in Pisac, Peru.
• 53:15
  They've got to place a New York state called Curacao,
• 53:19
  where there are hundreds of thousands of them, and they're all having 13 or 17
• 53:23
  to 18 children per family. They've done the same in Lakewood, New Jersey.
• 53:28
  They're setting up huge enclaves everywhere and
• 53:31
  cordoning off their own areas because they have to do it because of antisemitism.
• 53:34
  So we need our own police force. We need all this stuff to protect us because, you know, everyone hates us and blah blah blah, all done by design.
• 53:41
  That Mhmm. Once society gets flooded with migrants and everyone starts and the food shops shut down and everything and supply chain breaks down, everyone it's just gonna turn to chaos.
• 53:51
  And once that happens and they've got their stronghold
• 53:55
  in the middle of it, and they will rise as the the ruling power in that region wherever they are. And they're doing this everywhere,
• 54:04
  all over the world.
• 54:06
  So people need to pay attention. You know, their their motto is by way of deception, we shall do war. And this is how it's going on. It's a secret war that's been going on for at least the last hundred years,
• 54:16
  Unknown: and it's culminating in this big final endgame that they're running now. That's what Yeah. I I think it's a bit longer than that, Max. I'd put it down to at least three thousand years and I think it's just
• 54:28
  morphed into a particular way. I mean you use that word Amalek
• 54:32
  and I don't know whether it's gonna throw a wrench in your works, but
• 54:37
  they
• 54:38
  are Amalek.
• 54:39
  There's a great deceit taking place, it's a colossal I've
• 54:44
  got the whole sort of family trees going all the way back to three thousand years on a big sort of chart which is very very useful,
• 54:51
  and you see where it comes in.
• 54:53
  I see some of these small hat, I mean some of the speeches recently that fly across my desk from TikTok or wherever it is,
• 55:00
  these guys are just full of venom and spite. It's astonishing and really they should be you know if we did have a law that applied equally to everyone ho ho ho,
• 55:11
  that effectively
• 55:12
  whipping up violence.
• 55:14
  There's no two ways about it. That's exactly what they're doing and the language is the language of terrorism.
• 55:19
  There's no other way to describe it.
• 55:21
  I don't know what I mean, I suspect that some of them do know that, but maybe the bulk of them don't. And I put it down to a small cadre of supermaniacs
• 55:29
  right in the heart of the thing
• 55:31
  that has probably caused a great more harm
• 55:35
  to the Jewish people than their supposed external enemies because
• 55:39
  and there are many, you know, there are handfuls of good people from that community,
• 55:44
  handfuls,
• 55:45
  who've said as much but can't say it because they get they get dealt with severely as well. It's so it's like an orientation.
• 55:53
  Unknown: It's only a handful is the problem. I mean, Israel is stolen tell territory. It's Palestine. There is no Israel. It's a it's a fraud.
• 56:01
  Anybody who who believes
• 56:04
  in the state of Israel
• 56:06
  is either a misinformed fool or a psychopath, and there's no gray area in any of that,
• 56:11
  and that's unfortunate.
• 56:13
  And what we've seen recently,
• 56:15
  like, people from all over the world have been flooding back to Israel
• 56:20
  to help it defend itself in the war.
• 56:23
  There is no war. People are flooding back to Israel because they, want the opportunity
• 56:28
  to be able to go and torture, kill, rape, and terrorize
• 56:32
  women and children and unarmed civilians
• 56:35
  and kill with impunity. They wanna know what it feels like to have the power of life and death in their hands
• 56:42
  and to terrorize people with impunity.
• 56:44
  They're psychopaths.
• 56:46
  That's why they're going to
• 56:48
  defend Israel. Israel is not defending anything. Israel is an occupying force.
• 56:53
  And it's a it's an entire nation
• 56:55
  of psychopaths,
• 56:56
  unfortunately. I mean, if you look at the schooling system, these these people are raised to hate
• 57:02
  to hate all non Jews, and they're taught that you you must,
• 57:07
  you must extract as much pain and torment. The more torment and pain you can extract from your enemy,
• 57:14
  then and the more pleasure you can derive
• 57:17
  from that pain you cause them,
• 57:20
  then the more blessings will be bestowed upon you.
• 57:23
  This is why you got people like Ben Gavir torching like that doctor that they've had in there, they torture they've tortured him for five hundred and sixty days every single day.
• 57:31
  And they hang him on TV, and they wanna, you know, do it all on TV and livestream it so the entire country
• 57:37
  can feel the pleasure of his death. It's part of their religious belief system. You don't have a who is working to livestream
• 57:46
  the execution
• 57:47
  of Palestinians.
• 57:49
  It is a insane country.
• 57:50
  It isn't. These people are completely
• 57:53
  insane.
• 57:54
  You don't have you got
• 57:56
  they've they've given out drones to settlers,
• 57:59
  and these are armed drones. And the settlers are sitting in stolen Palestinian
• 58:02
  homes, flying their drones around looking at widescreen TVs
• 58:06
  and chasing Palestinians.
• 58:08
  Just recently, there was a a guy who who shot a Palestinian baby through a window from his drone. The the lady was sitting there breastfeeding
• 58:17
  a 10 old baby, and he shot that baby in the head from outside the window with his drone.
• 58:24
  Yep. Just to see who's the best shot for the day. You know, one day you have all the children will come in with headshots. The next day, they've got all throat shots. Next day, they've got all heart shots.
• 58:34
  They're playing games. This is the way they they treat the Palestinians. This is like and they get an enormous amount of pleasure from this.
• 58:41
  And they they they've got 10,000
• 58:43
  prisoners in their jail.
• 58:45
  They keep them in stress positions all day. They make them sleep in stress positions.
• 58:50
  They duck walk them, zip tie their hands behind their back, and bend them over double to walk between cells.
• 58:55
  It's it's got to twist the notion of Ben Gavir was saying that when
• 59:00
  an Israeli walks into a Palestinian prisoner's cell,
• 59:04
  the Palestinian prisoner now starts shaking,
• 59:07
  pissing himself, and crying as soon as the Israeli walks in. And he said, this is very good. Whatever your guards are doing to the prisons, you need to keep it up.
• 59:16
  This is the mentality of the Israeli population,
• 59:19
  and 90%, like, 90% of the peoples actually support this. This is this this
• 59:26
  race, this nation,
• 59:28
  they had riots
• 59:29
  because
• 59:30
  soldiers who raped prisoners to death got charged for rape, and they had riots demanding this they respect the soldiers' right to rape the prisoners to death.
• 59:41
  It's
• 59:42
  insane what is going on in Israel. They had prisoners raped by dogs. They had 300
• 59:47
  infants, toddlers,
• 59:49
  with their hands zip tied behind their backs, dropped into a into a grave and bulldozed over. They were all buried alive. It's the only state on Earth that has a military prison for children.
• 59:59
  Okay? So anybody who is supporting the state of Israel is either a misinformed fool or a psychopath, and anybody who is supporting that state has no right to be sitting in any position of power or any position that may affect the lives of any other people. That's the bottom line. We need to deal with this. The only thing we will is us. Yeah.
• 1:00:20
  Unknown: I I saw something,
• 1:00:21
  in a similar sort of you know vein of that.
• 1:00:25
  Think a guy with a broken leg, they'd reset his leg so that as it mends the
• 1:00:31
  foot will be pointing backwards. They thought this was hilarious. It's just a business. It's not
• 1:00:37
  even we can't even comprehend it. Mean this has been one of our blind spots I suppose,
• 1:00:43
  although it's one of our virtues is that we tend to give people the benefit of the doubt, obviously in this case far too far. But I think the reason why they don't get any kickback is that they've managed to tunnel into all of the main power centers in let's call it the West
• 1:00:56
  or Christendom or whatever you want to call it. We know what we're referring to and that's why most of the people that are in there are effectively
• 1:01:03
  you know, they're just agents. I mean,
• 1:01:05
  are I
• 1:01:07
  view England as an occupied nation.
• 1:01:09
  Unknown: They've
• 1:01:11
  through done the money system. See, we've got everybody dependent upon money, and so therefore the politicians have to do what they're told. And all the Epstein stuff, they've got dirt on all of them. Like, all of these people, if they're in a position of power anywhere in the world, then they've got dirt on them. Now being a politician,
• 1:01:27
  you if you're gonna be a politician and actually get elected to office,
• 1:01:31
  there is a prerequisite. You need to be a barefaced liar. You need to be able to look at normal, everyday, decent people and tell them barefaced lies with absolutely no remorse
• 1:01:41
  for the damage and hardship you're gonna cause them. If you cannot do that, you'll never be elected to office. And the people who can generally do that are people who have been caught terrorizing,
• 1:01:52
  raping, and eating children. That's what the club is. So they've got dirt on every one of these people. Otherwise, they would never be put into a position
• 1:02:01
  where they have any power over anybody else. Mhmm. That's what people have to understand. You're living in a people farm. All of it's theater. It's all theatrics, and they keep all this stuff going on and arrest this and arrest that and traffic offenses and all this stuff to keep you busy so you'll never deal with them. That's what it's about.
• 1:02:19
  Unknown: Do you fancy a little break for a song?
• 1:02:22
  Unknown: Absolutely.
• 1:02:23
  Unknown: I would like that. Actually, I'll go to the bathroom. We'll have a little break for a song. This is a Van Morrison song called They Own the Media. We're gonna be back after this. About three minutes, that should give you plenty of time Max.
• 1:02:34
  We'll come back with more happy information on the other side of this song. Okay? So we'll see after we'll be back after this everybody.
• 1:02:56
  Unknown: Media they control.
• 1:02:59
  The stories we are told.
• 1:03:02
  If you ever try to go against them,
• 1:03:05
  you will
• 1:03:07
  be ignored
• 1:03:09
  because they control.
• 1:03:12
  They control.
• 1:03:16
  They control the narrative,
• 1:03:18
  they perpetuate
• 1:03:19
  the myth.
• 1:03:22
  Keep on telling you lies,
• 1:03:24
  tell
• 1:05:50
  Unknown: Van Morrison with,
• 1:05:52
  They Own The Media.
• 1:05:53
  We're full of cheery positive news tonight aren't we? I hope you're all okay out there.
• 1:05:58
  Sometimes it requires a strong dose of reality I think to creep into the show and we're certainly getting one tonight with Max.
• 1:06:05
  Let me just check to see if he's returned. Have you returned Max?
• 1:06:09
  Not yet.
• 1:06:11
  Almost that was good, but that lent atmosphere to the broadcast so we quite like that. That was good.
• 1:06:17
  Pitch black here now,
• 1:06:19
  nights are drawing in so maybe as
• 1:06:23
  it gets darker we've certainly had a bit of a dark tone there for the last twenty minutes, I'm not trying to make light of it. I'm sure many of you are already
• 1:06:29
  aware of the scale and of the horror and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:06:33
  We've still got to look after our own bailiwick though,
• 1:06:37
  because I don't know what else we're supposed to actually focus on. We've really got to look at the home front and really sort all that kind of stuff out. So,
• 1:06:45
  anyway, I've just been looking at chat. Sorry. I'm oh, hi. Welcome back.
• 1:06:49
  Relief in seconds. Right? Is quite
• 1:06:53
  Unknown: It the same thing. It's, it's important. It's important that people notice. You know? So and there's no real way to sugarcoat it. The first ten years I was on air, was doing all this spiritual stuff to wanna empower people, but now we are in a state of clear and present danger, and we hold all the cards if people just choose to stand. But, anyway, I digress. Continue.
• 1:07:15
  Unknown: Yeah. No. I think
• 1:07:17
  well, I've had a few I have a lot of conversations off air during the day every day of the week with people that you know as you just do. Some of them will be good enough to turn into shows apart from all the f bombs that crop up so it makes it a bit awkward.
• 1:07:32
  I mean recently But just looking at the law, mean I
• 1:07:36
  feel you know as as an Englishman,
• 1:07:39
  we don't have any say in our in our affairs over here. Currently, I've got to sort of phrase these back to myself in a kind of positive way because I think
• 1:07:48
  you can just get consumed by that darkness if you don't watch it. It's like staring into the abyss. If you look into it too long, you fall in.
• 1:07:55
  And I'm not although I'm sometimes sometimes
• 1:07:58
  Unknown: you don't, brother. Sometimes if you if you look into the shadow, if you look into the abyss, what you find is
• 1:08:04
  the beauty in yourself. What you find is the power in yourself.
• 1:08:08
  I look into all this stuff, and I have no stake in the outcome of any of it. The human race destroys itself. It's not my problem. I offered a better way. But it was looking into the shadow and looking into the abyss that I was able to see the brightness of the light within myself.
• 1:08:22
  Yes. Sometimes it doesn't reflect the shadow at all. Sometimes it empowers you. And, like, I think we've been we've been trained to think this way that you should not look too long at the shadow in case you fall in.
• 1:08:34
  I mean, you can get incredibly angry looking at this, but there is such a thing as wholesome, righteous anger
• 1:08:40
  that can be funneled into something really positive. I mean, if I wasn't full of
• 1:08:45
  wholesome, righteous anger and hadn't been filled with that for years, I never would have been able to make all the positive differences I've made and reach all the people I've managed to reach and do all the stuff that I've managed to do.
• 1:08:58
  So I think it just depends on how you look at these things, brother.
• 1:09:02
  Unknown: No. It's a really good point. It is. I think in no. In my early days, when I sort of bumbled into
• 1:09:07
  things that appalled me, I just had anger
• 1:09:10
  and, thrived on it to be quite honest. It was the best I could do. So there was I just had a lot of anger. You go through certain things in life, there's certain things you just can't control and you get humbled by them,
• 1:09:22
  and although at the time they don't feel so good, when they're kind of over or you're moving on to the next chapter,
• 1:09:28
  you feel stronger for it. It's like growing up, it's actually much more painful than they let you know when you were a kid.
• 1:09:37
  It is. It just is. It comes with a it comes with a territory, really.
• 1:09:41
  Unknown: Yeah. Well, the problem is most people are scared of their own power. They're scared of actually ever standing up and being counted.
• 1:09:47
  I mean, I'm of the opinion that that ultimately I came here to die. That's a given. That's that's something that I'm gonna do. That's the only way you get out of this realm. Like Jim Morrison said, no one here gets out alive.
• 1:09:58
  Mhmm.
• 1:09:59
  And so
• 1:10:00
  and what we're living in is is is a a people farm, and the the corridors are getting narrower and narrower, and we're having to walk between the lines more and more and do what we're told more and more. And we do this because we're in fear of standing up in case someone hurts us and we and we die. Mhmm. Well, we came here to die anyway.
• 1:10:19
  You know? And I'm of the opinion that if you comply with legislation which is which causes you to step outside your moral compass, every time you do something that you know is wrong
• 1:10:28
  and and you're outside your moral compass in in doing that act, then you you give away a little bit more of your soul.
• 1:10:34
  You know, I've managed to get through my life. I mean, I'm 69 next month,
• 1:10:40
  and I've managed to get through my life without
• 1:10:43
  ever paying any taxes, without ever participating
• 1:10:47
  in the system at all. As soon as I could see what was going on, I kind of stepped off the the school stage and got into rock and roll bands and things and started doing that, working cash in hand and just then selling art and doing all sorts of stuff. I always sort of live
• 1:11:03
  outside of the system.
• 1:11:05
  And
• 1:11:06
  I'm 69.
• 1:11:08
  Next month, I have no debt. Well done. I
• 1:11:11
  don't really own much, but I I live a really transient lifestyle, and I don't really want to own much.
• 1:11:18
  Unknown: You know Ownership's
• 1:11:19
  an interesting idea, don't you think? The idea of ownership? I mean, given the It's crazy.
• 1:11:24
  Unknown: Crazy.
• 1:11:25
  Even when I've been, like, back in the old days when all the sovereignty stuff and the little games we used to play with the cops when you were able to do that and they weren't as brutal as they are now,
• 1:11:35
  and they'd ask me, is this is this your object? Is this your thing? Is this your car? Is this this? And I'd say, well, no. We're just sharing space.
• 1:11:42
  You know, I don't actually own anything.
• 1:11:44
  I use things and they're here now, but I don't own them because like, you know, I can't possibly own this, like, you know, whatever it is, this axe or this hammer
• 1:11:54
  or this toolbox
• 1:11:56
  because
• 1:11:57
  it's gonna outlive me. So how do I own it? You know? It's like people thinking they can own the earth. The earth's been here for four point six billion years. You're here for, you know, a 100 if you get a good innings and do the math. You don't own shit. You know? Yeah. So yeah. And that's the thing I used to say to people. When you when you buy a piece of the earth, then it owns you. You can't travel. You can't do the things you wanna do in life because
• 1:12:19
  this thing owns you, and you've gotta sit there and you've gotta pay for it for the rest of your life. If you think you own the block of land you live on, then why do you have to pay rates and keep paying things for every
• 1:12:30
  every year? If if you think you own it, stop paying your rates and see how long you actually own that for. You know? Mhmm. You don't. It's it's it's temporary. The whole thing's temporary. This is a temporary existence. So why do people spend the time they've got in this temporary existence doing what other people tell them to do? It doesn't make any sense to me. It never did. It never could. That's why I've been to world. What I wanted to do, and I've managed to stay out of jail for my whole life and just bump around. I've been around the world more times than I can count.
• 1:12:59
  You know? And it's just it's cheaper for me to do that than it is to live anywhere.
• 1:13:03
  Unknown: I'm impressed
• 1:13:04
  with your completely non taxpaying history. Mine's since 1990.
• 1:13:09
  I have not participated at all,
• 1:13:11
  but
• 1:13:12
  I did for about ten years. I've mentioned it before when I got that first tax return thing through when I was about 18,
• 1:13:19
  I didn't like the look of the envelope, so I threw it in the bin, and my mom went a bit potty with me. What are you doing? I said, I I don't want to know about that.
• 1:13:27
  Unknown: Yeah. Well, think you can get into the whole name thing and stuff as well, like your name in all capitals and all this. Mean, it's not you. You're opening someone else's mail. It's not addressed to me. Why am I gonna open this? You know? Mhmm. That's why I've always looked at it, and I've just never participated in that system. I wouldn't even know how to fill out a tax return. And how's this as well? Like, under the legal system that is in both of our countries,
• 1:13:47
  you don't you are not required to testify against yourself
• 1:13:51
  or say anything or fill out any form that may incriminate you.
• 1:13:56
  And yet they tell you that if you fill your tax return out wrong, you can be arrested for it. Well, you're asking me to fill out a form that I could incriminate myself by filling it out if I fill it out wrong, so therefore I'm not legally obligated to fill it out under your law, am I? Mhmm.
• 1:14:11
  Unknown: Of course it is their law or it's their color of law, their thing that's masquerading. It's why Yeah it is. I mean I'm going back to ownership, mean the word I tend to prefer is stewardship.
• 1:14:21
  I go well I've got an innings here, I'm gonna have an innings, I don't know when it will come to a close, hopefully gloriously with a six or something like that you know, but I'm gonna have an innings and
• 1:14:32
  whilst I'm alive there are certain things that are useful to me, which I'm happy to be a steward of. Of course you realize that every single thing, substantial thing in your life such as the house and the car, which are the most substantial things I think still that most people buy or think they've bought,
• 1:14:47
  they all come with these permanent strings attached which didn't used to exist. I mean it's, you
• 1:14:53
  know, we we look back on we talk about merry old England and just going back to that there was a period that was merry. Of course they paint it as bad, but it's not true. That church building period over here
• 1:15:06
  coincided with,
• 1:15:08
  life where people were working twenty six weeks a year
• 1:15:11
  and feeding their wife and their children,
• 1:15:14
  that's what they were doing, and the other twenty six weeks of the year, because there wasn't usury around
• 1:15:20
  to the degree that there is now, there were still private operators of course, know ripping peasants off, there's nothing new about that,
• 1:15:26
  but that gave them the time and the energy to commit to building something beautiful,
• 1:15:32
  which is
• 1:15:34
  so satisfying
• 1:15:35
  for those of you that do that sort of thing, and if you don't you've got to find even painting anything at all to have that creative side of yourself develop. Because schools don't do that do they? They create a robotized mind that's all completely
• 1:15:50
  left brained or is it right brained? Can't remember. No it's left brained, which is where all the logic is.
• 1:15:55
  The logic sensors and you you need those. I'm not again them, I mean you do need them,
• 1:16:00
  You're gonna need them currently to get through,
• 1:16:04
  definitely to try and deal with the agents of death or whatever we want to call them. But the creative side, you know, I've got a wonderful book on my shelf about drawing and when I was younger I wanted to draw and I decided after about three years of this I really didn't have the inherent talent to do it,
• 1:16:18
  or the patience to sit down for hours on end and wear my backside out, know, drawing away even though I love doing it and it's kind of a meditative space that you go into. But I got a book called,
• 1:16:29
  I've got it somewhere still kicking around on the bookshelves called
• 1:16:32
  Drawing
• 1:16:33
  with the right hand side of the brain
• 1:16:35
  and it's got a series of exercises in it.
• 1:16:38
  Are like,
• 1:16:40
  meditation. They're phenomenal. I ended up using some of these techniques over a sort of three month period. I've still got the drawings and they shocked me when I looked at them. One of them was to draw,
• 1:16:51
  an object upside down. One of the problems with the brain is that the left hand bit keeps jumping in really quick and names everything on a face. That's a nose, that's a mouth, I know what they look like, and it keeps it takes control of your hand almost, you don't realize it's doing that it's not literally like that, but basically it's the dominant part and you end up doing it and you know I always remember my mum and dad drawing it, oh that's rubbish and they'd be throwing it in the bin you know because it wasn't good, it didn't represent things. When you switch into that other state though,
• 1:17:19
  you can draw anything. Anybody can draw, if you can write your name you can draw, but of course they don't encourage that at school
• 1:17:26
  and that develops this other side of your creative powers. It's as if we've got considerable creative powers that have been of course thoughtfully by the other side suppressed,
• 1:17:35
  particularly since the Industrial Revolution. Know when they robotized people to go into factories and all this that and the other, because that was the system that they were bringing in. All that kind of stuff.
• 1:17:46
  And you know,
• 1:17:47
  I talk a bit about Dickens around here because he was really talking about the
• 1:17:51
  ruin of the peasant class over here in circumstances like that. Makes for great melodrama or drama because much of it is true. Mean he saw much of it in the courts.
• 1:18:01
  So as a
• 1:18:03
  group of people we've been preyed upon
• 1:18:05
  for a long time, it's just the form of it has changed. But there was a period, I do think there was a period when it was merry old England. I have to subscribe to that at least Max. It's hopeful in the best way, not hopeless but hopeful in the sense that we have been able to organize our affairs in line with the moral and ethical law,
• 1:18:23
  and for us as a people here I do see that as our top priority. You know all these things about law,
• 1:18:29
  Unknown: we have to get back to it. It's not even a choice. There's really only one law though brother, there's only one law and that is do no harm. Yes. Anything that they write on paper and you believe is law is not really law. It's just their legislation.
• 1:18:42
  And even if we go back to things like the Magna Carta or under their law, the Magna Carta was was, signed under,
• 1:18:49
  duress.
• 1:18:50
  Yes. So how lawful is it?
• 1:18:53
  We've gotta get back to, you know, God's law, which is do no harm. Don't step aside your moral compass. That's the law. That's that's the only law you need. Integrity has no need of rules. You know? But they've done so much to manipulate us psychologically through the whole system. It's a it's a complete mind fuck. Everything.
• 1:19:10
  Everything we do is is done that way. It's all black and white, and it's all trained to keep us divided, keep our left and right brain divided, keep us divided for everybody else.
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  Actually, I've got someone just walked into the room.
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  Do you wanna have a couple of words? I've actually got a dear friend who spoke at, Napopulco
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  weekend
• 1:19:29
  Right. Who, I dragged along to to actually have a speaking slot. You have a dear friend, Max. This is fantastic. I do have a friend. Actually, it's surprising, isn't it? I actually have a friend.
• 1:19:40
  And she's a psychologist.
• 1:19:43
  Pham, put her on. Yeah. Bring her into I'd the go to the rapist, you know? The psychotherapist.
• 1:19:49
  Yeah.
• 1:19:50
  And, do you wanna come and say hello? Do you wanna chime in on this conversation,
• 1:19:54
  Unknown: Irana? I think you would do well. Oh my god, Max. I didn't expect this.
• 1:19:59
  Unknown: She's a It's a surprise. Max is full of surprises today.
• 1:20:03
  It's his beautiful Croatian accent. I just came to visit Max, now he put me on the spot. Good evening from Good evening. Now we're all hypnotized by your accent because Max has pointed it out, and it is delightful. So I don't know what I'm supposed to say now.
• 1:20:16
  Unknown: Thank you very much. But she could probably give you a bit of insight on how
• 1:20:21
  psychologically deranged society is and how it's come about and what a possible solution might be. This is
• 1:20:29
  a lot to put on you. Is
• 1:20:31
  Unknown: he setting you up?
• 1:20:33
  Unknown: Just came to have a cigarette here with him, you know, and suddenly I'm speaking, I don't even know to who. What's your name again? It's Paul. I'm Paul. Paul. Yeah. Nice to meet you, Paul. I'm Ivana.
• 1:20:43
  Unknown: Hi, Ivana.
• 1:20:45
  Unknown: Yeah. We just, spent some time in, Liber Pulko
• 1:20:49
  in, Apartheid in Serbia,
• 1:20:51
  a few days ago.
• 1:20:52
  And,
• 1:20:53
  I also
• 1:20:55
  had a speech there,
• 1:20:57
  which was my first time ever to speak on this type of international conference.
• 1:21:02
  Right. And, my topic actually was,
• 1:21:05
  conscious rebellion.
• 1:21:06
  Why the inner freedom is the most radical act of our time.
• 1:21:11
  Unknown: And, I think, Max, this actually I was listening. I I I was listening what you've talking about. Having this inner freedom is exactly what I've been talking about is because we're not we're not standing up for ourselves because we don't believe in ourselves because we think somehow that we've got rulers, and all these people are pedophiles and they like, what are we doing? You know? Because we were conditioned since since we came out of mother's womb,
• 1:21:32
  Unknown: we were conditioned
• 1:21:33
  to
• 1:21:34
  to believe in such a way.
• 1:21:36
  Unknown: I'm gonna I'm gonna let Ivana speak to you for five minutes while I go make a cup of tea. Tell him tell him, Ivana. Make me one if you while you're at it. Is
• 1:21:44
  Unknown: this is this recording, or it's going live? Live. It's live,
• 1:21:48
  Unknown: and it's recording. It's everything. You're gonna be all over the world after this, Ivana.
• 1:21:52
  Oh my goodness me. Yeah. Don't worry. There's millions listening. I like to big it up. That's not true. Okay? But in my imagine in my imagination, it's it's it's true. The whole world is listening to us right now. So don't be Alright.
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  Unknown: Hello.
• 1:22:07
  Hello, world.
• 1:22:08
  Alright. So, what was the topic? Would you like me to Psychologically controlled and the psychological
• 1:22:15
  Unknown: how how to get out the solution of what you were saying. Oh, yes. So, basically, what I was talking about in apartheid
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  Unknown: was first
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  I I brought a little bit of,
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  you know, this whole
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  background of ancient
• 1:22:30
  different ancient traditions talking about different energy parasites
• 1:22:35
  that's been feeding
• 1:22:37
  on humans energy.
• 1:22:40
  Unknown: Depends how how you want to look at it. She point she pointed out that there are different traditions like there's there's
• 1:22:47
  people in different societies that have all pointed out that, hey, there's this psychological problem going on, and we've never addressed it. Exactly.
• 1:22:54
  Unknown: Right.
• 1:22:55
  In history. Yes.
• 1:22:57
  And, you know, if you look into,
• 1:23:00
  Buddhist traditions,
• 1:23:01
  and you you probably all know about,
• 1:23:04
  Maras,
• 1:23:05
  these parasitic
• 1:23:07
  creatures that are feeding on human awareness and energy.
• 1:23:12
  And then, you know, you you have you have Rakshas in Hindu tradition, then you have different type of demons in Christian
• 1:23:20
  Christianity.
• 1:23:21
  Then you have genes in Islam.
• 1:23:25
  Then you have
• 1:23:26
  in
• 1:23:27
  a Native American tradition, a spiritual
• 1:23:30
  virus that actually feeds on human consciousness.
• 1:23:34
  And, also, you know, you have the concept that was brought up, in Castaneda's
• 1:23:39
  books, about flyers, those parasitic creatures that are feeding on human energy as well. So there are heaps of them through different traditions talking about
• 1:23:47
  the same thing.
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  And,
• 1:23:50
  you know,
• 1:23:51
  you can you can take it as you want. You know? Is this just a kind of archetypal thing, or it's is it a real thing,
• 1:23:58
  or it's it's just a mythological thing? Doesn't matter. I really
• 1:24:03
  I really believe more and more that actually these these parasites
• 1:24:07
  are actually there, real. Yes. And since I was little, I kind of
• 1:24:13
  believe like, started to to believe that humans are not on top of the human
• 1:24:19
  on on top of the food chain. Really? So
• 1:24:23
  yeah. Well, I guess. I tend to agree. It was Yeah. And it was it was a tough realization,
• 1:24:29
  you know, especially when I got myself more into the whole
• 1:24:32
  thing about the archons
• 1:24:35
  and, you know, how they call them
• 1:24:37
  deceivers,
• 1:24:38
  like masters of deceiving.
• 1:24:41
  Yeah. So once when you when you dig deep down that rabbit hole,
• 1:24:45
  you know, for a lot of people, including myself, you know, you reach the point when you don't know
• 1:24:53
  where to go anymore, what to hold on anymore, because whatever direction you look at, you realize that everything's just a iconic game, you know, regardless on what type or on what side of the pendulum you are. You on the
• 1:25:07
  side of the quotation,
• 1:25:09
  good or evil, but they feed in regardless where you standing at. And that's a trippy
• 1:25:16
  realization
• 1:25:17
  when you when you start to think about it.
• 1:25:19
  But not to talk only about the, you know, the the the negativity of this reality that we live in and this whole matrix system that we are stuck on. You know, in my speech, I always also mentioned
• 1:25:34
  a blueprint for solution that actually
• 1:25:38
  ancient sages
• 1:25:40
  brought up a long time ago, and that solution actually exists.
• 1:25:45
  So I mentioned,
• 1:25:46
  which I found quite interesting, you know, that you all know about Lao Tzu,
• 1:25:52
  who was ancient Chinese sage,
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  the author of Tao Te Ching.
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  And he lived approximately
• 1:26:00
  two and a half thousand years ago.
• 1:26:02
  And at the same time,
• 1:26:04
  two and a half thousand years ago, we also had this famous inscription that was written
• 1:26:11
  at the entrance
• 1:26:12
  inside the temple in Delphi in ancient Greeks
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  that said, know thyself,
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  which again was,
• 1:26:20
  you know, a statement that was
• 1:26:24
  mentioning importance of self examination
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  2,500
• 1:26:28
  ago. And also the
• 1:26:30
  Gautama Siddhartha, the Buddha, he was also
• 1:26:34
  talking that, you know, mastering mastering
• 1:26:37
  your mind is the most important thing. Same as Lao Tzu,
• 1:26:41
  who said that, you know, mastering others is not as important as mastering yourself.
• 1:26:48
  Basically, what those sages around
• 1:26:51
  same time, long time ago, even though they lived far away from each other, they all came to the same concepts and conclusions that actually self mastery
• 1:27:00
  is definitely
• 1:27:02
  blueprint for
• 1:27:04
  protection from these forces that are external and feeding of us.
• 1:27:09
  And what I found interesting is that, you know, probably those sages of ancient times thought that one day in two thousand and a half years in future, modern men will be amazingly enlightened
• 1:27:23
  because if they came up to those conclusions, you know, who knows how the world will look in the future. But, unfortunately, here today,
• 1:27:30
  when you
• 1:27:31
  when you stop a random person on the street and ask them about self
• 1:27:37
  mastery,
• 1:27:37
  or if you ask them, like, what what is a powerful person to you? They don't have a clue. What do you what do you think by that? You know? I I in my therapy rooms, you know, I work mostly with adolescents,
• 1:27:49
  and they come to me and I ask them question,
• 1:27:51
  like, to tell me, what does a powerful man
• 1:27:55
  look to them? What is a powerful man?
• 1:27:57
  And they they look at me and they say, well, powerful man. That's someone who obviously
• 1:28:03
  has a lots of money or lots of fame, influence,
• 1:28:06
  able to rule over other people. So they all see power as something external.
• 1:28:13
  But very
• 1:28:14
  very few of them actually come to the conclusion as Lao Tzu was talking about that actually the real power is to to rule and control over your own mind,
• 1:28:25
  over your own thoughts, and your own energy.
• 1:28:28
  So that's kind of a bit of a background I was I was bringing up, and people, of course, wanted to to know about the solution.
• 1:28:36
  What can we do today
• 1:28:38
  in terms of protecting ourselves
• 1:28:41
  from those external things? Because the latest problem that we have is also
• 1:28:47
  artificial intelligence that operates pretty much
• 1:28:51
  in the same principle
• 1:28:53
  as those archaic ancient
• 1:28:56
  forces.
• 1:28:57
  Mhmm. And it does the same thing. You know? It feeds on our cognitive power.
• 1:29:02
  It feeds on our emotions,
• 1:29:04
  on our focus, on our attention.
• 1:29:07
  It, it completely feeds
• 1:29:10
  on every aspect of our, of our, energy regardless how we give that energy. So,
• 1:29:18
  the question It's a vampire sect. It's vampiric. It's full on. It's full on. And, you know, and, when you look the world that we live in, pretty much everything's
• 1:29:27
  designed
• 1:29:28
  to keep us outside of our bodies, especially with this, you know,
• 1:29:34
  extreme digitalization
• 1:29:35
  and screens everywhere.
• 1:29:37
  So wherever you look, every image just takes your focus away from yourself. And when you I used to say often
• 1:29:47
  that we became a society of
• 1:29:50
  walking heads, you know, which means that we are operating from the neck up,
• 1:29:55
  and we are completely
• 1:29:56
  detached from our bodies. And what does that mean? That means when you're not connected with your body, you're not connected with your emotions, you're not connected with your impulses,
• 1:30:05
  with your instincts,
• 1:30:07
  you're not actually connected with your inner compass.
• 1:30:12
  And therefore, your ability for critical thinking is
• 1:30:16
  drastically reduced.
• 1:30:18
  And
• 1:30:20
  your intuition is almost
• 1:30:22
  it doesn't exist. You know? And intuition, if you think about it, is a concept that is extremely important in terms of our
• 1:30:31
  self defense. It's actually a defense mechanism that we used for thousands of years. You know, we relied on our gut instincts and our intuition.
• 1:30:39
  But today, because we are attacked from so many different directions,
• 1:30:45
  from the air, from the food, from the frequencies,
• 1:30:48
  our bodies are attacked to that degree that we can't even connect anymore to our bodies.
• 1:30:55
  Therefore, our intuition
• 1:30:57
  became a big question mark to a lot of people,
• 1:31:00
  and people,
• 1:31:02
  as I said, lost their capacity to critically think for themselves. And, of course, who gains out of it? The one in the positions of power.
• 1:31:12
  So
• 1:31:13
  I don't wanna take too much time. I could talk about this
• 1:31:17
  You're not taking too much time. This this is amazing stuff. It's wonderful. Yeah. But what I good, But but what I would like to to say just to people, because this is very interesting,
• 1:31:28
  and when you get your thought because
• 1:31:30
  I lived in Australia for almost twenty years, and I worked as a psychotherapist
• 1:31:35
  in Australia.
• 1:31:36
  My practice was called Rebel Psychotherapy.
• 1:31:41
  It stood for Reclaim Energy,
• 1:31:44
  Balance, Ego, Love.
• 1:31:46
  And,
• 1:31:47
  I got inspired by that famous quote of, Albert Cami who said that
• 1:31:54
  I rebel, therefore, I exist.
• 1:31:57
  And as soon as I've heard that quote, that quote strongly resonated
• 1:32:01
  with me, and I came to actually conclusion
• 1:32:05
  that the most powerful act of rebellion
• 1:32:09
  is that self mastery that ancient sages were talking about.
• 1:32:14
  And now when I moved back to Croatia,
• 1:32:17
  which is a little bit not too much, but still a little bit behind the western world in terms, you know, when it comes to to this type of inner works and work work on themselves because people here still look at psychotherapy
• 1:32:30
  or psychoanalysis
• 1:32:32
  with a lot of
• 1:32:34
  cautious and the
• 1:32:36
  whole thing about
• 1:32:38
  psychotherapy is still a bit stigmatized here in Croatia.
• 1:32:42
  So
• 1:32:43
  I
• 1:32:43
  kind of
• 1:32:45
  made
• 1:32:46
  it makes sense to me why why psychology in general and psychoanalysis
• 1:32:51
  and Jung and Freud when they went to America for the first time were not received with the open hands is because actually any type of
• 1:32:59
  inner work that helps person, that helps individual to get themselves
• 1:33:04
  in balance,
• 1:33:05
  to Yeah. Help them to connect with themselves is direct threat to the establishment.
• 1:33:09
  Because if you within if you're in control with your own emotions,
• 1:33:14
  with your own thoughts, with your own energy,
• 1:33:18
  then you can't be controlled by external forces.
• 1:33:22
  So they did everything
• 1:33:23
  possible to demonize
• 1:33:26
  psychotherapy
• 1:33:27
  and deep inner work
• 1:33:28
  because that doesn't serve them.
• 1:33:31
  And then take that takes us, you know, to one of the books that I would
• 1:33:35
  hardly recommend to all your listeners to read because I'm finding it as one of the most important books ever written.
• 1:33:42
  That's the book called The Rape of the Mind by Just Merlot.
• 1:33:46
  He was a Dutch
• 1:33:48
  psychiatrist
• 1:33:49
  and psychoanalyst
• 1:33:50
  who actually explained all different techniques of how
• 1:33:55
  the establishment
• 1:33:56
  manages to mind control
• 1:33:58
  people.
• 1:33:59
  And one of his famous quotes that I often quote
• 1:34:04
  is the one that says that
• 1:34:08
  tools of psychology,
• 1:34:10
  extremely
• 1:34:11
  dangerous
• 1:34:12
  in the hands of dangerous people.
• 1:34:15
  And that's what I exactly doing today. You know, back in the old days, you would always have a king or some ruler who would have their own magician or a priest who would play as advisers.
• 1:34:28
  But today, these people in position of power, they have their own
• 1:34:33
  psychologists and behavioral psychologists,
• 1:34:36
  you know, about Tavistock and all these institutes actually monitoring human behavior,
• 1:34:41
  for them to know how to
• 1:34:43
  predict
• 1:34:44
  humans' behavior. And I'm gonna finish with another quote.
• 1:34:49
  So in terms of solution,
• 1:34:51
  I'll quote
• 1:34:52
  Viktor Frankl,
• 1:34:54
  famous psychologist,
• 1:34:56
  who said that
• 1:34:58
  between stimulus
• 1:35:00
  and between reaction,
• 1:35:03
  there is a space.
• 1:35:05
  And that space
• 1:35:06
  in
• 1:35:07
  within that space is our freedom,
• 1:35:10
  which means that
• 1:35:12
  we can't control
• 1:35:14
  any external influence. We can't control anything that's been put on us from those on in positions of power.
• 1:35:22
  But we always have power and control in our own hands to actually choose
• 1:35:28
  how we are going to response to those stimulus.
• 1:35:33
  The thing is
• 1:35:34
  that involves
• 1:35:35
  deep inner work. So every person, every individual this is not any more matter of collectivism because we did a lot of work over the last twenty plus years trying to make people aware about external
• 1:35:49
  external forces that are actually doing us damage.
• 1:35:52
  Now we really each one of us has to turn within,
• 1:35:56
  and we all have to pull our sleeves up, look ourselves in the mirror, put the put the knight
• 1:36:04
  knight armor on ourselves because that is not an easy walk in the park, as I said to my client. You know? You can't expect you're gonna do deep work and it's gonna be all gentle and flowery. No, it's very hard work. And that's why a lot of people avoid to do it because, you know, it's for lots of people, it's scarier to actually
• 1:36:22
  look themselves in the mirror and dig deep within themselves
• 1:36:26
  than actually to deal with the noise of external world. And that's why, you know, they come to see me. I offer some serious shadow work and they say, no, thank you. I'm not ready for for doing such a thing. That goes directly
• 1:36:39
  that goes directly as a as a in service of the people in position of power.
• 1:36:45
  Because when people refuse to do deep inner work to get to know themself,
• 1:36:51
  that space between stimuli and reaction
• 1:36:54
  stays very, very small. As less you know yourself,
• 1:36:58
  that space between stimulus and reaction
• 1:37:01
  gets really, really small,
• 1:37:03
  which means when that space is small,
• 1:37:06
  you
• 1:37:07
  your reactions are more reactive.
• 1:37:10
  And when your reactions are reactive,
• 1:37:12
  which means that your, you know, you you react immediately without taking few breaths in and
• 1:37:19
  deal from within your body, not from your head,
• 1:37:23
  your behavior becomes predictable.
• 1:37:25
  And that's actually how they are managing
• 1:37:28
  to to control us on the collective on a collective level. Because predictive programming,
• 1:37:34
  movies,
• 1:37:36
  everything that we are exposed to are actually just a big testing ground for for people in position of power so they can predict how masses are going to behave. That's why I'm repeating this one more time. Every single person has to take this very serious.
• 1:37:53
  They have to start dig deep within themselves and do some serious,
• 1:37:58
  serious, deep shadow work and try to expand that spend space between stimuli and reaction
• 1:38:07
  as longer,
• 1:38:08
  the
• 1:38:09
  Unknown: bigger as it's possible. Okay. I hope this made sense. I said everything in one go, and I think I'm done for now. You said it very well. That was really no. That was tremendous stuff. It just reminded me of course when I've enquired in that area and then I've stopped, I mean maybe other people are the same, I've spent time in the past sort of tunneling into that area and then I stop for a while and then the world distracts me And of course you look for good causative reasons in the outside world to try and find something worthwhile and honorable to do, which I probably you know I've spent a lot of time trying to do that on a personal level and no doubt others are similar to that. I
• 1:38:48
  think there was a phrase from it might have been Socrates but one of those old guys, it might not have been him the unexamined
• 1:38:54
  life is not worth living and I've always quite liked that one. And
• 1:39:00
  it is about that and it's like where do my you know you get into this stuff like when you were younger like where are my thoughts coming from and then you get into are they my thoughts or are they something else or am I just a big you know photocopying machine and to some degree we are because you mimic and copy certain things until they go wrong and you hurt your fingers or whatever you do and then you go I better stop. I mean it's the it's this opportunity to learn from your own direct experience that's being reduced all the time because we've got to be put into this system according to the would be controllers of this world.
• 1:39:31
  The Archons I'm kind of familiar with, I think Saint Paul talked about those didn't he? And he's not the only one.
• 1:39:38
  Unknown: That's right,
• 1:39:40
  Unknown: He did, yeah, and I don't know if I mentioned it here the other week. I came across a thing about cats the other day, pussy cats, about cats, which was really interesting
• 1:39:50
  and it was to do with something similar. It was according to the narrative, let's put it that way, that we were built by the Anunnaki
• 1:39:57
  according to this narrative. So let's just accept that for now. There was a researcher from England over in,
• 1:40:03
  I think it was Massachusetts or somewhere in the early 1970s,
• 1:40:06
  and she was very good at translating Sumerian tablets, that kind thing and she came across a box that had been there since about 1920.
• 1:40:13
  They had thousands of these boxes and none of them had been translated and she opened one up so it's been sitting there for fifty years
• 1:40:21
  and she translated this,
• 1:40:24
  this set of tablets and produced an article which was originally or initially accepted by a couple of academic journals and then rejected.
• 1:40:32
  And and the story in simple terms was that the
• 1:40:36
  our creators according to this narrative, I'm not saying I go with this, but they saw that the creatures that they had built us,
• 1:40:43
  were plagued with terrors and fears and anxieties and were in
• 1:40:49
  a horrible state and were becoming dysfunctional.
• 1:40:52
  So they brought according to this text they brought cats to the earth, which is a very interesting idea,
• 1:40:58
  and the cats act as guardians against these external forces,
• 1:41:03
  and the cat can see into
• 1:41:05
  a different dimension, and of course the cats venerated in Egyptian culture for exactly the same reasons that it can see in the dark what to us is the dark,
• 1:41:15
  and that they became guardians of their human owners and carers. It's slightly off beam from what you're saying, but it kind of reminds me of that with what you're talking about in terms of looking at what defense mechanisms we can get, you know?
• 1:41:27
  Mean, are definitely can just tell them to bugger off. Just bugger off in the name of God. Bugger off and leave us alone, you know? And also another thing, you know, I mentioned how they're masters of, deceiving.
• 1:41:40
  Unknown: And, you know, there there
• 1:41:43
  is still one thing that we,
• 1:41:45
  have to keep reminding ourselves of, and that is free will.
• 1:41:50
  And,
• 1:41:51
  these these forces,
• 1:41:53
  those parasites, call them as you want, you know, they they are amazing tricksters.
• 1:41:58
  So Yeah. Whatever they do, you know, they somehow makes us forget that we still do have free will. That's what I was saying before. Mean, it's all on us. Yes. And very important thing is, I'll never forget, like I had a situation in my life and it bothered me for quite a long time. I used to get those panic attacks out of nowhere. Let's say, you know, I'm by myself in the house cleaning
• 1:42:21
  And
• 1:42:22
  then suddenly from
• 1:42:24
  my toes all the way up through my whole body, I would just start to shake and feel this enormous feel like someone was inside the space, but I couldn't see anyone. That would come just out of nowhere. And it was going on for a couple of years until, and at the time I lived in Australia, Sydney.
• 1:42:42
  And
• 1:42:43
  until one afternoon I was vacuuming, I was in a good space, good zone, was listening some music.
• 1:42:49
  And then suddenly that fear came again.
• 1:42:52
  And it was enormously
• 1:42:54
  strong fear.
• 1:42:55
  But for the first time ever,
• 1:42:58
  I actually screamed out of my lungs.
• 1:43:02
  I'm gonna swear now a little bit, but this is Yeah. What I
• 1:43:06
  Yep. I said like, you know, you know what? Fuck off. You don't have a right to be here. You don't have my permission to be here, so fuck off.
• 1:43:14
  And I screamed that few times,
• 1:43:16
  and since then,
• 1:43:18
  never again I experienced that type of panic attack. Never again. Yep. So whatever that was and what was related around it,
• 1:43:29
  that moment of
• 1:43:31
  acknowledgement that
• 1:43:33
  could be someone in my presence that
• 1:43:38
  doesn't have permission from me to be there. And you addressed that, that doesn't have permission actually worked out.
• 1:43:46
  Unknown: It was I was talking about Pan the other day, remember?
• 1:43:49
  Right.
• 1:43:50
  You're aware of the myths of Pan?
• 1:43:53
  Unknown: Some of them. Yeah. Is there a particular Yeah, I am. Yeah. The myths of great meeting you yeah and well done Max for roping from a roping. Yes I've got an A, is it Eva?
• 1:44:04
  Unknown: Ivana,
• 1:44:06
  I really got it. I b a n a, yes so I'll leave you with Max, thank you so much for opportunity to share a few moments,
• 1:44:12
  and, yes, good luck with everything. Ciao.
• 1:44:15
  Unknown: You too. Thank you.
• 1:44:18
  Unknown: Yeah. She worth talking to. Yeah.
• 1:44:21
  Unknown: You've got some interesting people in your flat whilst you're making tea. This is good. Well, yes.
• 1:44:27
  Unknown: She came to be one of my Croatian friends. I knew her in Australia, and one of the reasons I ended up in Croatia. So, yeah.
• 1:44:34
  And I just happened to be here at the right time when I felt like a cup of tea.
• 1:44:39
  And I thought that would be good. I'll just throw her on the spot here and put her on an international radio show. Yeah. This is how we do it. This is it's good. It's cool. I like that. That was that was awesome. She's a lot of good ideas. She's got a lot of knowledge in that beautiful head of hers.
• 1:44:53
  Yeah. And
• 1:44:54
  you get to listen to that wonderful voice as well. Yes, it is. Okay. I don't want to bang on about it. You're absolutely right. It is. Yeah. Were talking about Pan.
• 1:45:05
  Like when we were going to Liverpool, I was talking about Pan, how pan is the the the the force in the uncertain space between any event,
• 1:45:14
  like between the light and the dark. Pan exists between the field and the forest.
• 1:45:19
  And, that that sudden panic or that sudden
• 1:45:22
  urge, that sudden lust, or that sudden desire that seems unfulfilled.
• 1:45:26
  Mhmm. This is pan. This is and I think because we've
• 1:45:30
  and, like, pan is the is the wild twin
• 1:45:33
  that we all have
• 1:45:35
  that, it comes out when we're teenagers and when we're young people. We go out and we party. We do these radical things. And as we get older, we believe we need to act more properly.
• 1:45:44
  And so we suppress these wild urges that everybody still has.
• 1:45:48
  It's like, you know, Peter Pan told you never to grow up. You know what I'm saying? So once we grow up, we suppress these this wild twin,
• 1:45:56
  and then you get people get to, like, 40 or 50 or 60,
• 1:46:00
  and I'll call it, like, a midlife crisis or whatever, you know, and they just come out of their shell and do all this,
• 1:46:05
  you know, radical stuff because they've kept it suppressed all their life. And it's like our our society
• 1:46:11
  has been taught to repress this wild twin part of ourselves,
• 1:46:16
  which is often the most expressive part of ourselves, which, you know, creates arts and all sorts of stuff.
• 1:46:22
  And,
• 1:46:23
  because we've suppressed it
• 1:46:25
  you look at Western society now, it's like pan controls all of Western society. You've got OnlyFans.
• 1:46:31
  You've got porn going rife, war. You know, what what the Israelis are doing in Gaza, all of this, like, just letting it all out, all this repressed
• 1:46:40
  human tension
• 1:46:41
  because we we never were able to balance the the the good and the the dark, you know, the light and the shadow.
• 1:46:48
  Always suppress a wild twin. And so now it just has to come out. And I was discussing this with her in the, in the car the other day. Now, the loss of the mythological tales.
• 1:46:59
  Because there was a lot in these mythologies. Like, when I was a kid and I used to read Greek mythology and, you know, the story of Odysseus and horrifying seeing what, Christopher Nolan just did to that story. Oh my god.
• 1:47:11
  Unknown: No. You know? I'm
• 1:47:13
  gonna start vomiting.
• 1:47:15
  Unknown: Mean, it's just ridiculous. He
• 1:47:16
  Unknown: told 10% of the story and he he didn't give you it was horrible. Absolutely freaking horrible. He had an opportunity. I'm not watching it. I can't go and watch it. I know they say you're not supposed to pre judge a thing, but I've I've looked at it and going It's horrible. I'm not yeah, I'm not wasting my time watching that crap. If you respect Greek mythology, do not go and see the Odyssey. Honestly, it is it is an insult.
• 1:47:37
  Unknown: But Yeah. Well, I think there's a lot in a lot of those tales, and I think the loss of that sort of storytelling
• 1:47:44
  in our society. I mean, stories are very powerful things, and people,
• 1:47:48
  don't tell stories anymore.
• 1:47:50
  And I think a lot people Yeah.
• 1:47:53
  Unknown: Absolutely. I bang on about it every now and again. I just think, reading is a really good
• 1:47:58
  it's like a Western form of meditation to read. Mean I know everybody does, well they used to, and they do argue that people are reading more, but it's in little blurbs, it's little sort of 15 word sentences and so you can't you've got to be able to sit down and concentrate these things. Mean I'm
• 1:48:12
  plowing through it.
• 1:48:17
  Yeah absolutely. Mean I'm currently reading some old books,
• 1:48:21
  like adventure books, I won't go into it, it's almost like sort of embarrassing, but they're fantastic. I read them when I was a teenager
• 1:48:27
  and I've just been reading them again,
• 1:48:29
  and I go back to being a teenager. It's like I remember everything what it was like when I was 15 because it's the same stories, I'm just going oh this is great. Yeah,
• 1:48:38
  it's wonderful.
• 1:48:41
  Unknown: Yeah. There's a lot of stuff like that. I mean, I I remember there was a certain feeling I used to get
• 1:48:46
  when I first read Lord of the Rings.
• 1:48:49
  Mhmm. And I used to get the same feeling when I first listened to
• 1:48:54
  Led Zeppelin two. Gave me that same feeling as what I got when I listened to Lord of the Rings. Oh, man. I can I can Well, I'm cut from the same cloth? It's exactly the same. You're
• 1:49:06
  Unknown: speaking for me here. I know exactly what you mean.
• 1:49:12
  You still there Max? We seem to have lost you momentarily.
• 1:49:16
  Unknown: How about now? Am I there now? Yeah yeah, it was only for a few seconds. Sorry, pushed a button on this new microphone that I didn't know was there. I'm glad I'm not the only one. Right? So this is good. You've cheered me. At night. And I I I used to read a like, a some of the Winnie the Pooh poems, some of the A. A. Milne stories.
• 1:49:34
  Oh, yeah. There there's a book book
• 1:49:37
  I got when I was six years old by A. A. Milne, poetry book called Now We Are Six.
• 1:49:42
  Yes. I can still recite some of the poems of that book,
• 1:49:47
  and I can still listen to some of the music I listened to when I was a teenager.
• 1:49:52
  And when I put that music on, I can smell what I smelled that day when I first heard that music, and I can taste it.
• 1:50:00
  The Internet
• 1:50:01
  and
• 1:50:02
  video clips and all this sort of stuff has taken all that away. It's taken all personal
• 1:50:07
  input into art away from the listener or the viewer.
• 1:50:12
  Yes. Like, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You know, a good well, what is a good piece of art? Well, it's that which makes you feel
• 1:50:19
  something.
• 1:50:20
  Doesn't matter what it is. Someone might look at that and think that's just a bland nothing, and someone else might look at it and think it's the most incredible thing they've ever seen because of the way it makes them feel inside.
• 1:50:29
  And it's the same with music. But
• 1:50:32
  the advent of of video clips and and, you know, MTV and all this sort of shit took that personal input away from people in regard to music and also in regard to literature because now it's all on tablets. You don't you don't get the smell of the pages and the feel of the pages and and the the, you know, physicality. You're to
• 1:50:50
  a convert. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. So I've taken this is what's what's happened to humanity. This is what's taken so much of people's humanity away from them without them realizing it. They're calling this virtual world. They're looking at screens all day. You know? Nothing that they're viewing is real. And and even
• 1:51:08
  in trying to deal with all this, I mean,
• 1:51:11
  like I said earlier in the interview about people making time capsules and things like that, I think it's really important
• 1:51:17
  that we do stuff like this. I think there's a a a very good reason why the people of ancient times
• 1:51:23
  carved all their information into stone,
• 1:51:26
  and they used pictograms
• 1:51:27
  because they could be understood.
• 1:51:29
  Try writing down diaries of what's what's going on in the world today, writing in English, and see who's gonna understand that a thousand years from now.
• 1:51:36
  You know? Yeah. No. Images have a they have a power. I mean, there is an all the stuff that I've done. I've I've been doing this for for eighteen years, putting out videos and and,
• 1:51:46
  making movies and doing all sorts of stuff,
• 1:51:50
  doing radio shows, putting a lot of time into editing videos and putting virtually putting out a feature length film
• 1:51:56
  every at least once or twice a week on my radio show. When I look at it, you know, me narrating, me talking, and then adding all these images, and, like, I'm literally
• 1:52:05
  structuring a documentary
• 1:52:07
  once or twice a week all by myself.
• 1:52:09
  But all this stuff that I'm doing,
• 1:52:12
  none of it's real. None of it actually exists because all they have to do is turn the power off, and it's all caught You know? Just in cyberspace.
• 1:52:20
  Yes. It only exists in cyberspace. And now they're getting all the books now, and they're putting all that in cyberspace.
• 1:52:25
  It's not to keep it safe and put it there so AI's got it. It's to keep the record for themselves
• 1:52:31
  and to shut it out for everybody else.
• 1:52:33
  All they have to do is turn the power off, and no one will know
• 1:52:37
  any word that I said. I might have said millions of words and done hundreds and hundreds of hours, possibly thousands of hours of talk and video
• 1:52:46
  in attempting to send a message to mankind,
• 1:52:49
  but none of it actually exists in the real world. All I have to do is shut the power off, and it's all gone. And I'm just a player who never did anything because everything I did was virtual. So am I really doing anything at all? That's the question. Well, you are. You're talking to me right now, so I just want to validate that. And the and the audience Maybe you're a bot. I don't know, mate. I'm getting Well, maybe I'm halfway maybe I'm halfway on my way to becoming one if I don't watch out. I mean, you mentioned the thing about the music that you mentioned,
• 1:53:17
  Unknown: the same. I can put stuff on, and it's like 1973,
• 1:53:20
  and I know what flat I was in. And I remember who who walked which one of my mates walked in with an album and said, let's listen to this. And, of course the first time I listened to smell what the air smelled like on the the day I smelled I listened I've
• 1:53:34
  got patchouli unfortunately as a regular thing. Every time I smell patchouli because I used to go to concerts and that everybody in denim jackets was just completely soaked in patchouli. I didn't even know what it was. It's telling your eyes, it's very interesting now brother. Yeah I can't. I didn't wear that stuff. Said what are you smelling for? I know
• 1:53:52
  but
• 1:53:53
  it just kicked me off isn't it? Was really a fucking patchouli flavored revolution.
• 1:53:57
  I
• 1:53:59
  think olfactory
• 1:54:00
  memory is unbelievable. You can just smell stuff and it's just like instantaneous
• 1:54:03
  flashback. It's like there's no gap. It's just bang. It's like the movie just runs in your head again. And you mentioned Lord of the Rings, I think I was drowning on but I bought
• 1:54:13
  a copy just before Christmas last year
• 1:54:17
  and because I hadn't read it I've read it twice before I read it when I was 15 and probably when I was about 30 so it was like thirty odd years and I thought I'm gonna read it again. So I bought a really good version of it, spent quite a bit of money on it and for 6 weeks or however long it took, was something like that, I was just in heaven every evening for about an hour an hour and a half and it was just
• 1:54:38
  Unknown: read the Lord of There's
• 1:54:40
  Unknown: a magic because you get connected up with the fact that you
• 1:54:43
  are driving it. I think you know going on to the dark side, think the CIA have said that books
• 1:54:48
  are the most still to this day the most powerful form of conditioning and I think one of the reasons is you know if you're not conscious as you're reading it and you've got to watch out the sort of crap that they put out, but you're the one turning the pages and you're the one creating the movie and it's it's quite a thing and it's why I've always preferred radio really to video in the sense that
• 1:55:09
  I know it's a bit sort of namby pamby, but it is the theater of the mind. It's a bit of a glorious nonsy statement in a way, but it's true.
• 1:55:17
  It's true. You know? It's a good thing too because it's just a thought flow. It's not you're not dependent upon what someone looks like or whatever or having a nice background or whatever. It's good like people driving trucks just tuning to talk radio and Yeah. You know? Radio is great. You know? I I think it is. I think it it suits my style more even though I know, we should probably get video cameras and stuff and every now and again I think well maybe I will but then I don't want to scare the children and stuff like that you know. I'd have to spend even more time in makeup and all this kind of stuff and getting all that sort of sorted out but the thing about yeah, the reading stuff is just amazing. I mean, I'll tell you, there's another thing. This is a silly story. I've mentioned it here before, so some listeners will know this. Before we off we get off Lord of the Rings, I read Lord of the Rings
• 1:56:02
  Unknown: for probably
• 1:56:03
  two years. I read lord of the rings.
• 1:56:06
  Right. I did that every night after school when I was, like, 16 years old at school. Yep. I must have I must have read it
• 1:56:13
  maybe 25 times.
• 1:56:15
  Wow.
• 1:56:16
  Okay. You beat me. I would I would lay in bed, and I'd read this book for, like, an hour or two every night. And then when I'd get to the end of Return of the King, I'd put it down, I'd I'd sigh.
• 1:56:27
  You know? Wow. And then I'd pick up Fellowship of the Ring, and I'd start reading it again.
• 1:56:32
  You know you know, act of the mystery that it gave me. It gave me this feeling, this warmth, this this this realism, and there's a there's a really deep message in there about standing up to tyranny and bravery
• 1:56:43
  and companionship and respecting friendship.
• 1:56:46
  There's a lot of messages in Lord of the Rings, and, yeah, it's, so, yeah, I read it. It's magnificent.
• 1:56:52
  Unknown: It's off the charts. Brilliant. So when you were reading it when you were 15, this was the thing. So I read it about 1975,
• 1:56:59
  and of course, the books came out in 1955
• 1:57:01
  but when I was 50 that was like a million years ago. I just thought this is an ancient book you know. It came out five years before I was born. Well that was just forever away you know at the time.
• 1:57:12
  Now it's like I look back, was thinking about the other day I thought I got really lucky, we got lucky, just happened when everybody was reading it.
• 1:57:20
  At school,
• 1:57:21
  when we went to sixth form, everybody was reading it, everybody was just reading, there was like everybody had a copy under their arm. This went on for about a year and a half, so you know you could say we're conformists or whatever, but it was just mad and everybody got the same, I think pretty much the same sort of feelings that you're talking about.
• 1:57:38
  It's spectacular. When the films came out as well, I was completely knocked out. I thought they were as good an offering as you could make from a book like that. The book is still more magical,
• 1:57:49
  but still they just did a fantastic job and it's full of all these ancient
• 1:57:53
  really Greek themes. It's it's about moral and ethical behavior. It's about real challenges, it's it's about which were lost on me when I was 15.
• 1:58:01
  I was just blown away by it. I just thought, what have I just read? I don't know what it was. That's a really interesting
• 1:58:07
  Unknown: but that's a really interesting thing about the mythological tales as well is when you look at
• 1:58:11
  Greek mythology,
• 1:58:13
  and you got Hermes and
• 1:58:17
  Apollo and Atlas and all these people, Then you look at Norse mythology, and you've got their equivalents there. You look at Egyptian mythology and you've got the equivalents there as well. You've like, three separate mythologies
• 1:58:27
  that all have the same amount of characters who all did similar things. They just have different names for the characters.
• 1:58:33
  Mhmm. So it lends credence to the fact that something happened back then. So there's some sort of,
• 1:58:39
  truth to to some of these mythological tales.
• 1:58:43
  Unknown: I've gotta just do a closeout here,
• 1:58:45
  Max. We're we're just about to lose
• 1:58:47
  one of the channels that picks us up, so I've just got to say a few words. I normally play a song here but I'm not gonna this week because I'm enjoying the convo, we don't need another song I don't think.
• 1:58:58
  So we're we're gonna say goodbye to you all on WBN three twenty four, if you wanna carry on listening, go over to Paul English live dot com, and you can pick up multiple ways to carry on listening to the show. I'm here with Max Egan, and we're having a tremendous chat here on this Thursday evening for us. Thursday afternoon if you're in The States, we're gonna be carrying on there so but we'll say goodbye to everybody on WBN three two four and you can catch us same time next week okay I've done my bit max so there we go listen the show runs for another hour I don't know you're fixed for time It's down to you. You can say, I've gotta go, and that's cool if that's what you need to do. It's up to you. I don't mind. Look. Look. I've got I'd like to keep chatting, but I've got, like, three people. I've got three or four people who've kind of come to Croatia, and they're, like, visiting just for the night. Yeah. Sure. They all arrived. They all arrived, and I said, well, that's nice to see you for two minutes. Have to go for an interview now.
• 1:59:49
  Unknown: And I've got one of my being here in the room.
• 1:59:52
  Yeah. Unfortunately, I do. Unfortunately, I have to, you know, be friendly sometimes. So
• 1:59:57
  but Listen. I think I I probably should go and spend some time with these people because they've taken a a great effort to come and visit me. Yeah. And I'll I'm I'm regretting actually hours.
• 2:00:09
  Unknown: Yeah I'm regretting actually offering you the opportunity to leave, but you're right I shouldn't get so petty about it. I've enjoyed the last two hours tremendously, it's been brilliant.
• 2:00:18
  I'd love to have another conversation with you at some point in the future and
• 2:00:22
  great meeting you. Mexico,
• 2:00:24
  Unknown: brother. Like, I'll be back in Mexico probably in about a month. What's what's the date now? By the I should easily be back there by this time next month, and then I'm free pretty well anytime you like.
• 2:00:37
  Unknown: Fab. Well, maybe we'll do one back end of September, October time or something. It'll be here before we know it. But
• 2:00:43
  Unknown: Yeah. It's been great to talk to you, Paul, but, yeah, I really should go, man. I've got You should.
• 2:00:48
  Unknown: Should. Otherwise, you'll be cursing me, and you won't wanna come back. Say it's that twat over there that actually held me from all my good friends, so we don't want that lingering. Brilliant, fantastic,
• 2:01:03
  and we'll talk more about old books and things next time you're around it. Wonderful, Thank you very much Max. Love
• 2:01:09
  Unknown: the chat, bye bye.
• 2:01:10
  Unknown: Bye for now, bye bye.
• 2:01:12
  Max Egan everybody.
• 2:01:14
  So
• 2:01:16
  he's obviously got all these pals and people just
• 2:01:22
  hanging around so he's gonna go have fun and make tea. So I don't know what we do with the show now. I was in a quandary about it actually I thought we might end at ten. I've got nothing else much lined up
• 2:01:32
  unless
• 2:01:33
  Eric wants to come in and say something. You wanna say anything? Eric, you've been listening very patiently. It's really wonderful.
• 2:01:39
  Good evening. How are you? Mustn't grumble.
• 2:01:42
  Unknown: I was a bit envious of
• 2:01:44
  of,
• 2:01:45
  Max. Max and a cup of tea didn't offer us one, so there we go. But you know, he should have at least offered us. But,
• 2:01:52
  it's very interesting what he was saying in his view of life, which I a 100%
• 2:01:57
  agree with.
• 2:01:59
  But I thought he was gonna speak about something he spoke about on a video,
• 2:02:04
  and I won't go too deep into it because I don't want to ruin a future show,
• 2:02:09
  about the whole world, and I hope I'm not misinterpreting
• 2:02:14
  him,
• 2:02:17
  lies being said about this situation in the Middle East.
• 2:02:21
  Because if Israel is being bombed the way they say,
• 2:02:25
  then they would be
• 2:02:27
  military
• 2:02:27
  their military being capable of producing doing anything, but they're not. Their aircraft are still stay taking off,
• 2:02:34
  and they're still invading
• 2:02:36
  neighboring
• 2:02:37
  countries.
• 2:02:38
  And with Iran,
• 2:02:40
  the capital, Tehran,
• 2:02:42
  would be as flat as a pancake now, but it isn't.
• 2:02:45
  So
• 2:02:47
  what's going on?
• 2:02:48
  Unknown: I'm glad it isn't, and I'm glad, you know, I'm glad there's people that are surviving. But there's Newspapers, I guess, are going on to some degree, Eric. You know? Is it possible for us to really ascertain the true state of things? I mean,
• 2:02:59
  I have seen, you know, some of the events he was describing there towards the end of the first hour, which are pretty horrific. I know that stuff like that's going on, probably everybody else here is, and you end up feeling sort of powerless about to deal with it. I mean I do think of course our real attention is for our own people here in our own home.
• 2:03:16
  That's the best way we can fight for everybody is to learn to fight for ourselves and demonstrate hopefully if we're you know given a good shake of the stick that we can turn parts of this around. I thought what Ivana was saying though is also I mean you know on this show we don't address those sorts of things, but it's not that they're they've never been a part of my life. I do look into things like that, I just haven't done recently. I've been,
• 2:03:41
  as you have I guess to some degree, maybe I'm very very pragmatically oriented over particularly this year, it was needed. Sometimes you just you know, those thoughts are never really too far away. Mean it was it was interesting. I liked the fact that Ivana swore at the entity that was actually giving her grief.
• 2:03:58
  That bit I could really resonate with, and I used to have,
• 2:04:02
  when I was younger,
• 2:04:04
  like seven or eight, I used to have this recurring nightmare,
• 2:04:09
  which was along similar lines.
• 2:04:11
  I've never had recurring nightmares since, but I used to have this one which is in
• 2:04:16
  real life my mum and dad would take me up to bed after a cup of Horlicks or Ovaltine or whatever it That's it, remember that.
• 2:04:23
  I'd have my dressing gown on, I'd have my face all washed and I'd be all ready to go to sleep and all that, and we'd go into the hall, this is in real life, go up the stairs and I'd go to sleep.
• 2:04:32
  And then I'd have this dream where this was happening again in the dream. In the dream, I'm back in the lounge
• 2:04:38
  and my mum and my dad say oh it's time to go to bed and I'm going haven't I just done this sort of all confused in the dream and I'd go into the hall but this time
• 2:04:46
  as I went into the hall my mum and dad would close the door behind me and it would I'd be all alone with no one to take me up the stairs and it was now pitch black
• 2:04:55
  and at the end of the hall there were all these glowing eyes and these muttering voices like lots of eyes like as if there were little demons at the end of the thing and it and it this went on for a few nights and one night when I went to bed I thought if that comes back I'm basically gonna tell them to bugger off. Of course I didn't know language like that then because I was only seven, was being raised properly,
• 2:05:17
  So when it actually happened, similar to what Ivana said, although I didn't have it sort of in you know whilst I was doing housecleaning in real life, I told them very loudly in my dream go away! I remember
• 2:05:28
  they never came back. There's whatever it was that was going on with me, never came back.
• 2:05:34
  Yeah, I think obviously when you're younger, you're more
• 2:05:37
  in touch with that side, know? I agree you. Agree with you. But I've
• 2:05:41
  Unknown: similar, not necessarily in dreams,
• 2:05:43
  but you get things come into your mind like thoughts, negative thoughts,
• 2:05:49
  panic attacks, and things like that. I've done the same as what Ivana has done. I just told it a sod off, not exactly in those words,
• 2:05:57
  and
• 2:05:58
  it goes.
• 2:06:00
  Because I think that,
• 2:06:02
  a lot of these, whatever you wanna call them, demons or whatever,
• 2:06:06
  they're very weak.
• 2:06:08
  Some are strong, but some are weak, and some won't go unless you really do tell them to go. But,
• 2:06:15
  I very much believe in that, and we were talking earlier today
• 2:06:20
  about, Jerry Malinski.
• 2:06:22
  And he,
• 2:06:23
  is a
• 2:06:25
  he was a psychiatrist
• 2:06:26
  in the American prison system,
• 2:06:29
  and he discovered
• 2:06:31
  that,
• 2:06:32
  oh, what is it now? What's that thing where people hang
• 2:06:40
  on. I muted. I say, I accidentally muted. Hey. It's it's catching.
• 2:06:44
  Unknown: The muting disease.
• 2:06:46
  Unknown: My god. I've suffered from mute. I tell you what,
• 2:06:49
  something else is when your lips go out of sync when you've got video on, suffering some out of sync. It's from watching too many foreign dodgy foreign films, you see. But
• 2:06:59
  I was gonna say is
• 2:07:02
  Jerry Milwinski found out that people that suffer from
• 2:07:07
  what's that with people who hear voices? I can't think of the word. Schizophrenia?
• 2:07:11
  That thanks, mate. Yeah. Schizophrenics
• 2:07:14
  were actually listening to hearing voices, and he could cure them. And, of course, big my farmer don't wanna know about that. So he got booted out and everything. He he really has been through the thick of it.
• 2:07:26
  But, some
• 2:07:28
  of the experiences he's said on air absolutely are mind blowing,
• 2:07:32
  And I 100% believe him because I haven't had it as bad as him, but I have had experiences.
• 2:07:39
  And I think that Tesla came up with something about changing frequency.
• 2:07:44
  If you're starting off saying you've got a bad day and you think, oh, everything's going wrong, change your frequency
• 2:07:50
  and say, it's a good day. Yeah. It's a great day. And it's surprising how different it can make things. And it's like, yeah, if you go out
• 2:07:58
  and you're looking at everything that's negative, you will find negativity.
• 2:08:03
  If you look at everything that's positive,
• 2:08:05
  you'll find positive stuff.
• 2:08:08
  I
• 2:08:10
  think that's
• 2:08:11
  basically life.
• 2:08:13
  Unknown: There's something about the uttering of words more than the uttering, but when you say them with intention they change things. They do. They change you,
• 2:08:22
  they change your experience of yourself in the moment. It's language and making a sound, it's obviously self evidently a very powerful thing. Of course it's that
• 2:08:32
  old adage if you don't ask you won't get. It's like we're not asking sometimes I feel I'm asking for the wrong things, I'm trying to solve the wrong problems. Mean you might solve them and go I really shouldn't have been solving that problem, I should have been solving this one, this is a bigger I used to have this, there was this adage that used to float around that how do you get rid of your problems? Oh it's quite simple, you just take on a bigger one. Have you noticed that? If you take on a bigger problem it pushes all the little ones out of your consciousness. You go oh that's not important and there are things that I was fretting about eighteen months ago that I've still done nothing about and but they don't bother me at all now because I've gone no there's a much bigger problem we've got to save England
• 2:09:08
  and I do think that. I mean I really do think that or at least I'm going well that's not that's a reasonably positive goal I'll have that for now until I grow up a bit more and can have and have a better one because there are better ones to have there probably are but you do what you can don't you at the moment.
• 2:09:24
  Unknown: I 100% agree with you because I think that
• 2:09:30
  it's surprising how you can change things,
• 2:09:34
  and the aborigines
• 2:09:35
  knew how to change things. They could change the weather by doing weather dances and things like that. And I once saw a documentary
• 2:09:44
  where there was a gliding championships,
• 2:09:47
  and the weather was wrong. An Aboriginal lady came Aboriginal lady came along.
• 2:09:52
  She did this strange weather chart, and everybody took the wee wee
• 2:09:55
  secretly.
• 2:09:57
  And the next day, the weather was perfect for gliding.
• 2:10:00
  And I said, this is a miracle.
• 2:10:02
  And she was quite, well, yes. Because the aborigines have been living with the world and the land
• 2:10:08
  for thousands of years. They know what they're doing. So there's a lot in that.
• 2:10:13
  There is. I really do believe that.
• 2:10:17
  Negative, positive.
• 2:10:19
  If you are negative, you'll attract negativity.
• 2:10:22
  If someone does me wrong,
• 2:10:25
  I don't want to
• 2:10:27
  feel spite or anything like that. I feel well what's I don't know what's going on inside their head, and they might be going through hell. So I just think, oh, well, that's life. Well, you end up poisoning yourself, don't you? It's very difficult to learn,
• 2:10:41
  Unknown: know it is when you're younger,
• 2:10:43
  I found it so, you're
• 2:10:46
  reactive and there's something sort of glorious about that, because it's appropriate for your age and what you know. Sometimes you just have to fight
• 2:10:53
  in whatever way you think is best at that particular time, and in retrospect you go oh I was a bit of an idiot back then, but going yeah but you didn't know any better and you were doing you know if you do it with honesty and good intentions in your heart,
• 2:11:03
  that's the best that you know that's a good thing.
• 2:11:07
  Ivana's use of course of swearing has obviously influenced
• 2:11:11
  Matilda,
• 2:11:13
  who says and this is just going back to words Eric, she says in my head I say f off government,
• 2:11:18
  maybe I should shout it. Yes go on do it shout it right now Matilda, go into the street excellent really loud
• 2:11:25
  and hopefully everybody else will start joining in. Yeah so why not? Then she's apologized sorry gents for swearing,
• 2:11:32
  You should. It's atrocious Matilda. It's terrible thing. Yes. Swearing in the chat. I agree with Matilda.
• 2:11:38
  Unknown: I mean, let's face it,
• 2:11:40
  that during World War two, there was a famous witch who like walking bloke who like walking around in the, altogether.
• 2:11:48
  He's a bit kinky and a bit weird.
• 2:11:50
  And the they did,
• 2:11:52
  witchcraft ceremonies, go away ceremonies and things like that, which they say, I don't know, marvel to the course of the war. I don't know.
• 2:12:02
  And I think that if
• 2:12:05
  we all had a day where we said go away at the government,
• 2:12:10
  could it make a change?
• 2:12:11
  We can't do any You know what? That would be fun though, wouldn't it? It would be. A certain time, a certain day,
• 2:12:18
  Unknown: and once a year.
• 2:12:20
  Unknown: Absolutely. We shall go away to the government. It's a simple thing. Maybe we should use Matilda's battle cry.
• 2:12:28
  Yeah. But can we sort of name a day? We're we're we're at a time and build up to that. I mean, how would we get people to know?
• 2:12:35
  Unknown: Well, I think people might wanna just do it, you know. It already feels quite a giddy idea. It's national government f off day at 12:00 noon. Go out in the street and just shout as loud as you can.
• 2:12:46
  Unknown: That'd be fantastic.
• 2:12:48
  Unknown: Suddenly this huge cry goes up all across London
• 2:12:51
  Londonistan or wherever it is going oh we got something. You know we've talked about simple things like we were talking earlier today weren't we on the call about posters with a few words to make impact. Maybe that's just the sort of galvanizing
• 2:13:05
  match that we need. You don't know it could be just national f off government day.
• 2:13:11
  Yeah. We probably wanna do it more than once a year though. And once people have got a taste for it, we're gonna do it every Saturday now.
• 2:13:17
  Unknown: Then every day at noon, you know. Yeah. It's a good idea. At noon,
• 2:13:22
  and we we point towards London.
• 2:13:24
  She'd have to have some sort of map, you know, it'd be, where I am, it's south, and where you're at north.
• 2:13:30
  You point towards it. It's a bit like pointing towards Mecca,
• 2:13:33
  but not because London.
• 2:13:35
  And we just
• 2:13:36
  point and say, f off government.
• 2:13:39
  Unknown: That's what we could do. Do a I like it. I think it's got traction. I can feel the energy going up in the chairs. Matilda says, I'm gonna do it.
• 2:13:47
  Unknown: Yeah. Well, you can actually think of a time or a day.
• 2:13:51
  Let's see. 12:00 on a I don't know. The fifteenth of every month. I just made that up. Don't know. But that fifteenth of every month. Yeah. We'll we'll check our calendars and get day. F off government.
• 2:14:03
  Unknown: Maybe it's the first day of the month or the last day of the month. I don't know what it is, but, it needs to be that. It's
• 2:14:09
  you know someone's written that they got all the Covid idiots to go out and bang in their pots and John Ponce says remember the banging of the pots and the pans that the Covid is unfortunately I do. We need to do our own version. I think we're finding it here everybody, we're finding it it's a bit vulgar but I think in
• 2:14:24
  this case a bit of vulgarity won't go miss. I think it would be it's appropriate.
• 2:14:28
  I think it really is. Might release a bit of energy, you don't know.
• 2:14:32
  Is that all we had to do? Is that all we had to do is tell them to f off? Yeah it looks as though it worked.
• 2:14:37
  Unknown: But it it might actually work. What do you think about it? I mean, it's a bit like I was walking,
• 2:14:44
  I went down the town the other day, do a bit of shopping,
• 2:14:46
  and in the there's like a a very small precinct,
• 2:14:50
  and they always got, charities there.
• 2:14:53
  Charities. Share and they shout out It's all for charity. Skew because there's a few people around. And, Scooby, sir, do you wanna do this? And I
• 2:15:01
  decided to shout out. She said, do you wanna save children dying of cancer?
• 2:15:06
  I thought,
• 2:15:07
  yes. I went over and said, yes, I do. Yes.
• 2:15:11
  I found out that money doesn't cure it, nor do charities.
• 2:15:15
  But if you put one on a keto diet
• 2:15:17
  and get doctors that know what they're doing, they can be cured. Thank you very much, sir. Goodbye. That's what he said. Thank you. Well done. Excellent. That's how we deal with it. Yes. Yeah.
• 2:15:28
  Oh, hang on. Haji Haji says it was Gerald Gardner. That's it? Yes. You see, he like to walking around with his meat and two veg swinging in the breeze.
• 2:15:39
  He's smoking a pipe with socks and laced up shoes.
• 2:15:44
  It's a nice day, isn't it? It's nice house, isn't it?
• 2:15:47
  Unknown: It's nice to get back to a bit of vulgarity isn't it? Yes. I mean that was a really interesting two hours as well. Mean it was a different energy, different tone, Max is a different you know he comes from a different space. I really enjoyed it and I just I mean the fact that Ivana was on hand that's spontaneity for you but that was what she was you know that field of inquiry I was reminded kind of awkwardly while she was talking that I don't spend I haven't spent much time thinking in that sort of avenue for a long time
• 2:16:16
  actually, and I've often felt that it's as if the solutions are right there but we're just not looking in the right place. It's right in front of your nose,
• 2:16:23
  and sometimes it's like tuning your consciousness up to God. That's the net that I've got to look at that. That's what You think about it. If everybody stood still
• 2:16:32
  Unknown: in London,
• 2:16:33
  Avro four thousand,
• 2:16:35
  I think that's the Fockem Transport Minister somehow.
• 2:16:39
  Hello. Hello, Anurag.
• 2:16:42
  Said, can we do it on day three two two of the year as they love that number date eighteen stroke eleven
• 2:16:50
  and also the March 22 every year.
• 2:16:54
  So a twenty second
• 2:16:56
  in the month or something like that. So can now can can the police arrest you for pointing towards the government and just saying go away shouting
• 2:17:05
  go away.
• 2:17:10
  Unknown: Yeah. Tell the police to go away. Go away. Yeah. Go away.
• 2:17:14
  That's
• 2:17:15
  all you're saying. Should do Shane Gowie to the government.
• 2:17:18
  Can't really do it very well. Well you know how we have a minute silence for on November 11 at the eleventh hour and all that kind of stuff. Maybe we need a minute shouting,
• 2:17:27
  really really go for it. Can you shout for a minute?
• 2:17:31
  I remember when I was younger with my brother in the house, if we were in there and my parents were out, sometimes
• 2:17:38
  we would just have a shouting competition
• 2:17:40
  to see who could make the
• 2:17:43
  loudest noise. I go,
• 2:17:45
  should we do some shouting? I go, yeah, you go first. And it was just as
• 2:17:49
  loud as you could for us. Don't know, because you get hysterical when you start doing Yeah. It's a great release of energy. It's probably very good for the body isn't it? Well well maybe I bring back shouting.
• 2:17:59
  Unknown: Maybe my sister used to do it because we just hated each other's guts. Well she hated my guts.
• 2:18:03
  Unknown: Oh I'm sorry to hear
• 2:18:06
  Unknown: Ladylike, I tell you something my sister is much older than me and you get a right hander from my sister,
• 2:18:11
  you knew it because I not only got a right hander from my mom, I got it from my sister as well. Shut up you little sod back.
• 2:18:22
  Unknown: It's time for everybody that's being clipped or being told to show to get their own back and to let some sound out.
• 2:18:29
  Know there's that line,
• 2:18:31
  I've mentioned it a few times in that poem by Kipling,
• 2:18:34
  the Norman and the Saxon where he's he's advising his son and he said don't you go to he says don't tell him lies, he said otherwise they'll be up and at you like hornets
• 2:18:46
  and and and that's what we we need a sort of a minute of acting like the noises that's right you know
• 2:18:53
  get stretched sort of crew you ever could think. It could be fantastic actually, I'm really quite into it. Instead of standing in the park why not shout in the park? Needs to be shout in the park doesn't it? Well you know screaming Lord Sach?
• 2:19:06
  Unknown: Not personally Well
• 2:19:08
  you know he allegedly
• 2:19:10
  committed suicide.
• 2:19:12
  That's right, I'm using allegedly too much.
• 2:19:14
  Well, I knew somebody that knew him and he said he did not commit suicide.
• 2:19:18
  He was done in.
• 2:19:20
  And they said he committed suicide, but he was suicided.
• 2:19:23
  And what they do every year on the anniversary of his death in the Monster Raving Lunar Party, they have a minute shouting.
• 2:19:30
  Some of them a minute silence, have a minute shouting. I'd to do.
• 2:19:36
  Unknown: It's a bit late here for me to start a show. It's twenty past ten and I do want to get on with my neighbors.
• 2:19:41
  Yeah. Yes. I mean I had some unruly youths
• 2:19:45
  outside the house about three nights ago, making a right old dinner quarter to twelve and I and I thought oh I've turned into that middle aged grouch.
• 2:19:53
  Yeah. Another one. It only went on for a few minutes I thought oh well did I ever do things like that? Yeah
• 2:19:59
  I did,
• 2:20:01
  did you know. So you let it ride, mean it's just it's like we get a bit precious about all these things. So a little bit of sort of loudness is quite yeah, everybody's a bit too timid. Maybe we just need volume. Get big amplifiers. I often said it. It might work. Yeah. But we need a catchy name. We need a name for that time.
• 2:20:18
  Unknown: You see,
• 2:20:19
  something hour or something like that. Something cause they got world whatever it is day.
• 2:20:26
  Unknown: Think the vulgar I think the vulgar title is there Eric. It's national government f off day.
• 2:20:32
  Unknown: I'm just being polite on air. I did want to say the whole word, but I'm such a baby. Can't we have t shirts t shirts with with with with the date on it? So it's national government f off day.
• 2:20:44
  Yeah. Are they I don't know. Is it
• 2:20:46
  what what did,
• 2:20:49
  Anorak say? Twenty second. We could have it on the twenty second of the month or something.
• 2:20:53
  That sounds pretty good. Hang on. That's a couple of days time.
• 2:20:57
  What's today? It's the twentieth today.
• 2:21:00
  Twenty first. That's Saturday.
• 2:21:02
  Unknown: I'm so keen. I'd probably do it alone on the seafront. I wouldn't really mind.
• 2:21:06
  Unknown: At 12:00,
• 2:21:08
  which national
• 2:21:09
  government f off day, we could do it around the world.
• 2:21:12
  So when I'm on, when I do my show talking to people in America, Patrick, you know, they could have their government f off day, and you just point,
• 2:21:21
  f off government
• 2:21:23
  and the police can't do anything about it.
• 2:21:26
  What can they do?
• 2:21:27
  Unknown: I don't know maybe they could say you're disturbing the peace. I don't know they could say something couldn't they? But there's probably a reply available to
• 2:21:37
  courtesy of the Willoughby app or something like that. If they come up to you say hang on blah blah blah blah blah and then you just confront them in a way for them to demonstrate that they're not actually police officers, they're not, they're private people.
• 2:21:51
  Masquerading all that kind of stuff. I don't want to get into that, I just like the idea of shouting. Look let's face it,
• 2:21:56
  take up rate from the guy in the pub would be high.
• 2:22:00
  This
• 2:22:01
  is the sort of simple direct communication that you want. It might get people in touch with their outrage as well. There's something about volume. It could spread couldn't it? Yeah it could. But but from a pub. So we say okay we're gonna count down now five
• 2:22:15
  Unknown: four
• 2:22:16
  it's coming up to 12:00 three
• 2:22:18
  two one. Oh, it's the government.
• 2:22:24
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 2:22:25
  We're here. Here we are down at the local clock, and every day at 1PM, Eric Von Essex arrives, and this is what happens.
• 2:22:35
  He's been arrested 34 times but it won't stop.
• 2:22:38
  This has been going on for several months and now others are joining him. Yeah what are you doing? I'm going down there, I've got to be there at 01:00. Why I've got to tell the government to f off Right? You can you wanna join? It only lasts about five seconds, but it's great fun, and then we go for a beer afterwards. Right? Well, I've seen a video. It it really has wound me up. Someone took it
• 2:22:57
  Unknown: secretly,
• 2:22:58
  and there's this little kid. He must be about seven or eight years old, and a
• 2:23:04
  little
• 2:23:05
  Unknown: a
• 2:23:07
  Unknown: a
• 2:23:11
  Unknown: a little
• 2:23:17
  Unknown: just like of a little robot you know you will be picking this up and we will do blah blah blah blah blah and it made me feel like yeah go go over this conference saying this is your head this is my hand bash take that you bastard.
• 2:23:34
  Excuse me sir,
• 2:23:36
  to be cussed, yes, a wife who got a broken nose
• 2:23:39
  but whoever got a broken nose, boom, you have now.
• 2:23:44
  Unknown: Well you know you know the the poster that we were talking about as well I was just thinking about that poster,
• 2:23:50
  know Lord Kitchener from World War one. I see I got Well I'm just looking I mean these are too many words but it should be your nation wants you to tell the government to off. F off. Right? But we print the full word yeah. Yes. Yeah and then underneath National Government F off day you know blah blah blah. We can hold it regularly.
• 2:24:12
  It's a bit
• 2:24:13
  like the town crier
• 2:24:15
  you know would come up and start ringing the bell oh yes oh yes the government has got right
• 2:24:20
  off. Off the go. Oh I'm dying to actually swear on radio, but I couldn't possibly do that, it'd be wrong of me wouldn't it? Although I'll tell you what, I've noticed that the
• 2:24:28
  f bombs keep creeping in all over the place even on mainstream, well it's slightly mainstream radio. I was listening to Mike Graham the other day, sorry to bring him up, but there's some good stuff and actually had some good guests on. He had Lord Moncton on this morning.
• 2:24:40
  Oh, was he still around? Fantastic.
• 2:24:44
  And he was just nailing things and just talking about the babies in charge and all that kind of stuff. He's great you know he's very articulate guy and he comes across with that kind of upper class gravitas which I'm quite a sucker for when the guy's got a good heart and he certainly does you know. He has not got and I feel sorry for him for his eye condition that is terrible. It's similar to,
• 2:25:02
  Unknown: Marty Feldman. It's an eye condition, poor sir, and I feel really sorry for him. But he's a very nice man.
• 2:25:09
  He was friends with,
• 2:25:11
  oh, what's his name?
• 2:25:13
  Pierce Corbin,
• 2:25:14
  who's the,
• 2:25:16
  brother of Jeremy Corbin,
• 2:25:18
  and they they were quite good friends.
• 2:25:20
  And they're both on the same
• 2:25:23
  page with the climate,
• 2:25:25
  and Milton has proved
• 2:25:27
  and one good thing that Milton said, said, wherever electricity
• 2:25:32
  is introduced,
• 2:25:34
  the population goes down.
• 2:25:36
  Because
• 2:25:37
  what happens when people get electricity,
• 2:25:41
  they think, oh, I'd like a I'd like a washing machine or I'd like a fridge or a freezer or something like that. Well, if we have children, we'll be able to afford that. So better cut back on the amount of children we have. So
• 2:25:53
  Unknown: we're fall to buy a fridge or a freezer or a motor car or something. The knock on effects are just unbelievable aren't they? Aren't the knock on effects they're amazing really.
• 2:26:03
  Unknown: So I mean let's face it and at least I mean you're in a you're in a half miles from nowhere and you you I am actually. When it's dark. Well, that's right. What are gonna do? You're gonna have horizontal jogging. You know? I mean, that that's the thing. But if you got electric lights, well, it's less horizontal jogging.
• 2:26:23
  Unknown: Well,
• 2:26:24
  know, we could have national make a baby day or at least practice.
• 2:26:27
  Yeah. Practicing day. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Maybe something about the short and swift vulgar
• 2:26:34
  Unknown: slogan is really what's needed. It might actually cut through. Yeah. Well you look at it, was it I think one of the most incredible,
• 2:26:41
  things was a French Connection UK.
• 2:26:45
  Really clever, we thought that one up because the first time I saw it I thought what?
• 2:26:49
  It looks rude and we need something like that. So it's It is rude, makes you think rude things. It does. Oh
• 2:26:57
  Unknown: no it's not it's not f u c k it's f c u k. Right okay.
• 2:27:03
  Unknown: We can't I think so and
• 2:27:05
  that will be rather and it must start in pubs
• 2:27:09
  and it'll spread to other pubs and there are pubs throughout The United Kingdom
• 2:27:13
  at a certain time saying
• 2:27:15
  Unknown: f off to the government. And then what we have to do on the radio right is we have to get we have to get loads of people on their phones to call in all at the same time and then we do a countdown and we just get this complete cacophony going over the airwaves that's what you need just to transmit the energy. I like that.
• 2:27:32
  We can hold it once a week instead of instead of now at the time sponsored by AcuRusys we go and now we're going over for our important midday report from the government f off team and that's it we're tuning into all these pubs, there's 600 pubs here we go.
• 2:27:46
  I know. That's it. We'll be back again same time tomorrow for another one. Yeah. I quite like this. This is Something just come to mind.
• 2:27:53
  Unknown: Yeah. What they what they call when you have pens with with with names on them? Oh, it's a certain name, ain't it? When when you're trying to promote something, there's a certain name for it. Well, you know that years ago, they used to have, like, a loudspeaker.
• 2:28:06
  Not an electric one, just an ordinary like cone. You could make them, show it out and make it, and you put that up to your mouth.
• 2:28:12
  A megaphone? Megaphone. Yeah. But not electric one. Just a simple one that had in the nineteen twenties.
• 2:28:18
  Unknown: So you got Like the referees used to have a boating
• 2:28:20
  the guys on boats on boats happened.
• 2:28:23
  Unknown: Cox Coxson used to have them at the back. Yeah. That could be something you could buy with National f off dial.
• 2:28:30
  When you go to the pub, you take yours along with you, and everybody who threw threw their neck of phone goes, f off conference.
• 2:28:36
  Unknown: Rodney, that's a brilliant idea. This time next year, we'll be middling airs.
• 2:28:44
  Unknown: I think we're on to the summit. We really are on to the summit with this. And is
• 2:28:49
  Unknown: chat guy mad? Come on chat. Think of some of it. It'd be even better. It is. They're all getting quite giddy. I mean, it's sort of like, you know, everybody likes to swear. We could just do a promo thing. Now you can do it officially at 01:00 every Monday, first Monday of every month or whatever we say it is, join everybody else and really let go
• 2:29:06
  and to really you know be amongst the crowd why not get the national f off megaphone?
• 2:29:12
  Here it is, know, which ships
• 2:29:14
  Unknown: and everybody gets them. It'd be brilliant. I love it. And it'd be small, I mean it wouldn't you know, it it'd be a small one, because quite honestly, you wouldn't take a big one to the pub with them, but it could actually have
• 2:29:26
  Unknown: It's getting complicated this. The
• 2:29:28
  Unknown: I Ching government logo on the side, I don't know if you can copy it with f off on it.
• 2:29:37
  Unknown: It's
• 2:29:38
  ticking a lot of boxes this isn't it? It ticks a lot of boxes.
• 2:29:42
  Yeah it does.
• 2:29:43
  Unknown: That
• 2:29:45
  is one of the best protests ever. All people gather outside
• 2:29:49
  Number 10 at a certain day with their megaphones and just say f off.
• 2:29:55
  I mean what could the police do about it? Everybody's just standing there shouting f off to the government.
• 2:30:01
  Unknown: The creative juices in the chat are flowing. There's one in from Enviro, he says you're missing you're missing another vital point here. We need to get one of those vans with an advert on the back with Andy bumhole,
• 2:30:13
  Andy bum bum's face on it and f off on it. Yeah. We could do that. Yeah. In fact, we could just change the slogan. We could start it with that, and then we could and particularly, and then we name someone. You know? There's there's no end to it. It could be just tremendous. You know, I could see a whole movement of shouty people. Yeah. Join the National Shouting Society.
• 2:30:32
  Unknown: National Shouting.
• 2:30:33
  Or the National Shouting Front.
• 2:30:36
  The National Shouting Front.
• 2:30:38
  I think I think Nick Griffin will like that one with a national shouting front.
• 2:30:42
  Yeah. Actually, we could put that.
• 2:30:45
  Think it's so
• 2:30:47
  Unknown: in keeping with the way that we can behave, and it's funny. Right? And because it's funny, Il's got traction. It is funny. We've we've got something tonight. We really
• 2:30:57
  mate. It's genius. We just needed a couple of hours of quiet listening to Max, And that I mean, we've gone from the sublime to the ridiculous. We we tend to do that, but this is really good. But, yeah, I mean, why not? So we've talked about really, really deep and serious things, and but then in the end, the show ended up with we just wanted to shout.
• 2:31:14
  Do a lot of shouting.
• 2:31:20
  Unknown: Can you imagine all the lefties all go along with their pink and green and gray hairstyles go, oh, it disgusting?
• 2:31:29
  Unknown: I don't think they would. They they probably tried they would obviously try and get some kind of action against it, they'd try and find some bylaws about why you're not allowed to shout. But you're allowed to shout at football matches, aren't you? That's why people go. It's the only place they can go to let off some steam.
• 2:31:44
  So we just that's some
• 2:31:46
  Well, I don't think there's much more noodling on this. We just need a day and a megaphone supplier would be handy to find out. I'm probably gonna spend I'm gonna waste half an hour tomorrow morning looking for one. I bet you I do. I can feel Or
• 2:31:58
  Unknown: make your own like Blue Peter. It's not rocket
• 2:32:01
  science.
• 2:32:02
  And
• 2:32:03
  I I think that it would I mean, I was thinking today of a cartoon
• 2:32:08
  and based on Viz Magazine,
• 2:32:11
  and it'll be Andy Andy Burnham and his
• 2:32:15
  unfeasibly large or unfeasibly small brain or something like that or unfeasibly large rectum
• 2:32:21
  or something like that. Andy Burnham and it could make us minor spelling error on it so it can't claim he's here. But we need a cartoon character like that. You know, Andy Burnham, and he's unfeasibly large. I can't think Mhmm. Unfeasibly large. We can get some songs going. You know that song, Goodnight Irene? You know that one? Goodnight
• 2:32:40
  Unknown: Irene. Well, you can change the lyrics to that quite easily.
• 2:32:43
  People do.
• 2:32:45
  Anyway, look, obviously the songstresses and songsters of
• 2:32:50
  the island and anywhere else we could make it this a worldwide thing.
• 2:32:54
  Yeah, it's just that's it. In my mind it's already happened, which is sad because it hasn't.
• 2:32:58
  Unknown: Conversation is just yeah. Of course. It it it can happen, and I think it'll start in pubs,
• 2:33:06
  and it could go around it could really go the the
• 2:33:09
  length of Britain very, very soon. And it doesn't matter where you are.
• 2:33:14
  And and, oh, that's
• 2:33:16
  Evro, he's he's bloody brilliant, Evro. He's
• 2:33:19
  and that's Anurag. He says, make a megaphone out of a traffic cone.
• 2:33:24
  We've got them already.
• 2:33:25
  There's thousands of them. Traffic cone. Okay.
• 2:33:29
  Unknown: So alright, children. Now we've got one here that we've already made, and this is what you actually can do with the traffic cone. We've
• 2:33:35
  had this letter in from from Bobby from Peterborough, and he wants to know how he can turn a traffic cone into a megaphone so they can tell the government to beep off.
• 2:33:44
  And his mum and dad are here with him. I mean, you only need a little bit of sticky back plastic, and here we are. Yeah. And we told Bobby next door to go play with the traffic on the m one and he did. He's come back with a megaphone.
• 2:34:00
  Unknown: The little sod return.
• 2:34:03
  But there's loads of them. There's no shortage of them. I'm
• 2:34:08
  that there is a kind of, they mate
• 2:34:11
  traffic cones and they just got two traffic cones. They got them to mate and suddenly got a bleak population explosion
• 2:34:17
  off them.
• 2:34:18
  But,
• 2:34:19
  yeah,
• 2:34:22
  that is a good one and I'm sure we could all find a traffic cone can't we?
• 2:34:26
  Somewhere. Yeah.
• 2:34:29
  Unknown: Is there anything else for us to talk about? Idea is sort of just taking over for half an hour hasn't it really? Not that I mind.
• 2:34:35
  Unknown: Yes. Yeah? No. I don't I don't mind. Or we could have a a Fockem Day, National Fockem Day, or a national yes. Well, I I won't go into that one, but a word is very very similar,
• 2:34:47
  but we could aim at governments.
• 2:34:49
  Last Now thing, the f off is much better.
• 2:34:53
  But we need T shirts,
• 2:34:55
  first of all, that we can have,
• 2:34:58
  megaphone.
• 2:34:59
  What else would there be?
• 2:35:03
  Oh, also on election days.
• 2:35:08
  On. Embros says it's multitasking,
• 2:35:11
  but if a group of us went and picked up a traffic code, we could clear roads works roadworks in a process in the process.
• 2:35:19
  Unknown: That's a point, isn't it? It ticks a lot of boxes.
• 2:35:22
  All we need is one pub. We need one pub to do it. Film it. Stick it on YouTube. Seriously, it's a thing where you need to film it. Stick it on YouTube and go, join
• 2:35:32
  it join the
• 2:35:33
  Unknown: English shouting society or whatever they Join call campaign this
• 2:35:38
  Unknown: to tell the government by
• 2:35:41
  shouting
• 2:35:42
  and shout them out of office.
• 2:35:45
  Unknown: Up, go away or if you're part of Hampstead, you'll go go away
• 2:35:51
  with an f word in it.
• 2:35:54
  Unknown: You know when
• 2:35:56
  Tommy Trousers had all that one and a half million people or whatever it was,
• 2:36:00
  imagine if they'd done that
• 2:36:02
  right? It'd be quite loud you see, and what happens is when people in crowds make a lot of noise it actually can be overwhelming to you as an individual because it transmits
• 2:36:13
  directly without intellect a sense of your own power.
• 2:36:17
  Unknown: Well
• 2:36:18
  they did an experiment once, was it that chap Robinson? Now I don't know if you heard, this is a very sad thing, of the Bethnal Green disaster.
• 2:36:28
  There's a plaque there today. What it was is that during World War two, people used to use the underground
• 2:36:35
  as an air air shelter when the trains stopped running, you know, during the night.
• 2:36:41
  And a load of people were going down
• 2:36:45
  the yes. Sort of going down the steps of Bethnal Green,
• 2:36:49
  and a new anti aircraft gun have been sighted
• 2:36:54
  that this is under Churchill's command because he wanted naval guns
• 2:37:00
  to
• 2:37:01
  fire aircraft,
• 2:37:03
  and they thought
• 2:37:04
  that a bomb had made a direct hit. So what happened is as the crowd was going down,
• 2:37:10
  part of the crowd turned round and went back and then trampled
• 2:37:14
  women, children, and the elderly to death accidentally. It's just the force of the crowd.
• 2:37:20
  And they did experiments with this with dummies and things like that. And then they did a thing with a, you know, a rugby try,
• 2:37:28
  and they said it's amazing how powerful
• 2:37:31
  people are.
• 2:37:33
  And they they they showed the immense strength of a load of hairy blokes doing a rugby scrum. Do they have to be hairy?
• 2:37:40
  Well, it could be hairy, you know. And I am hairy, just to let you know. So am I actually. A little bit hairy. Not that hairy. And
• 2:37:51
  Unknown: Ladies, you don't have to be hairy. In fact, we prefer it if you're honest, to be quite honest. Well, today, I had quite quite a time
• 2:37:58
  Unknown: walking to the egg farm because I was walking up this narrow lane, and they said,
• 2:38:04
  pathway closed.
• 2:38:05
  And they got all these barriers
• 2:38:07
  around it because the councils dug holes.
• 2:38:10
  Unknown: So I thought,
• 2:38:12
  Unknown: sort that for a laugh. So I just moved the barriers out of way and put them back and just moved and sort of jumped over the holes and
• 2:38:20
  and just ignored them. Thought, well, sod it. I mean, once upon a time, they just have a sign up. That's it. They got barriers everywhere.
• 2:38:27
  But I think that,
• 2:38:29
  it's
• 2:38:30
  time we should stick two fingers up to authority in a way like over the top health and safety. This was over the top health and safety.
• 2:38:39
  Why? Why are they doing it? They they caused a massive traffic jam because someone was digging a hole in the pavement. But because they're digging a hole in the pavement, they had to block off
• 2:38:50
  a lane
• 2:38:51
  and have traffic lights
• 2:38:54
  because there's roadworks that weren't going on in the roads.
• 2:38:57
  Nonsense. It's it's bonkers, and they're doing that all the time. They're they're just going over the top with health and safety. I'm all for health and safety, but in its place, and it's not in a and they're just going over the top with it. So anyway much health and too much safety. We need it slightly less safe, and you don't need to be that healthy.
• 2:39:17
  When I was a lad, we knew where we stood when we had rickets, you know. It's a bloody good disease, and we lost all that.
• 2:39:25
  It was bloody hell, sir. What the hell?
• 2:39:28
  You know, my granddad was really happy when he had bronchitis. He used to cough his gotcha. That's the day. They were the days.
• 2:39:38
  See the other one, eating chips and fish and chips out of newspaper.
• 2:39:42
  Yep. We
• 2:39:43
  Unknown: lost something in this country when they put VAT on fish and chips. Oh it can all come back. It's the thing that's got to come back first is desire.
• 2:39:52
  Yes,
• 2:39:53
  the thing that's got to come back. No desire and outrage,
• 2:39:56
  desire and outrage in combination and that kind of stuff. It's just it's an energy
• 2:40:02
  bar.
• 2:40:04
  Max was making good points about that really you know that people are
• 2:40:09
  not animated enough with regards to our condition and and it's true you know we're not the vast I suppose I've got to work on the basis there's a part me that just can't let go this in my head about I'm not you just think like in those films, all the villagers are gonna rise up, alright,
• 2:40:26
  and if you can achieve that that would be something, but I suspect unfortunately in today's
• 2:40:32
  tightly intellectually
• 2:40:34
  mentally controlled populace that's unlikely to occur, but I suspect there's still enough maniacs, for want of a better word, around
• 2:40:42
  that will do it. You see the energies there, it still exists. It is. I mean of course they're doing it in football stadiums which is I've still no idea why you would even go and watch that stuff anymore because it's become culturally irrelevant but you know I wouldn't use words like that in a football crowd because it'd probably get my head kicked in. Not that they do that anymore, you can't even get your head kicked in at a football match. I mean where's the fun in that? So and
• 2:41:04
  Unknown: where where there there's
• 2:41:06
  so much that's been removed from our culture that needs to come back.
• 2:41:10
  That was good.
• 2:41:12
  Unknown: Bring it all back with shouting.
• 2:41:13
  Unknown: Yes.
• 2:41:14
  Shout
• 2:41:16
  Unknown: our way back to freedom. This is not a sophisticated approach.
• 2:41:20
  Is the sort of the equivalent of picking up a hammer and hitting the nail. I don't want to talk to you about what the nails made out of or where I bought the hammer or that it was my uncle this and that. Pick that up and hit it. Bang. There you go.
• 2:41:30
  Unknown: It's gotta be sort of like that. May maybe it does. Anyway, it might be Do remember at Diana's funeral when everybody started clapping and that that that just one person started and everybody else just started clapping. Just just why?
• 2:41:43
  We don't know. It's surprising how things follow on. It's feeling.
• 2:41:48
  Unknown: It's feeling where
• 2:41:49
  people give themselves permission to feel things. Of course everybody says this is not very British behaving like this. I actually thought it was to be quite honest.
• 2:41:59
  Unknown: It's not racial. I mean, we can't we can't I can't do some racial stuff because it doesn't really matter if you're third or fourth generation immigrant. You can still say f off government.
• 2:42:08
  So they what can they do you for? I just I think we can get away with it. Oh, there'll be something, but I don't think that's really
• 2:42:14
  Unknown: I wouldn't even think about it. I I just yeah. Anyway, if we can get a pub, get six or 10 guys in there, get them to do it, film it, stick it on YouTube and say this takes place,
• 2:42:25
  and then Yeah. And we just get all the pubs to join in, you know, and power brilliant idea,
• 2:42:30
  Unknown: and we'll try this and put it on, what is it? TikTok as well. And Mike Mantis has says Isn't that for young people, Eric? TikTok, isn't that? I'm not very young.
• 2:42:40
  TikTok, nor am I. But bring back town criers,
• 2:42:44
  especially ones with Tourette's.
• 2:42:50
  Okay. And I have a telltresses,
• 2:42:52
  oh, effing a yay.
• 2:42:55
  Unknown: I've got a relation you know that's got it. I've mentioned it before, haven't got a friend, he's English
• 2:43:01
  but he's been living in Canada most of his life, but he's got it and it's quite spectacular when it happens. Yeah it's quite a thing. No one takes offense because he's got this perfect excuse. I actually I said, you're just doing it for show. I said, you haven't got it at all. He's just like swearing in front of everybody.
• 2:43:17
  Unknown: When I was on a television,
• 2:43:19
  I saw a documentary and I was crying, literally crying with laughter.
• 2:43:25
  It was with people with Tourette's, and
• 2:43:28
  I feel greatest sympathy for them. I do feel sorry for people with Tourette's. It's a horrible thing.
• 2:43:34
  But some people take the mickey out of themselves. There's loads of people singing along who've got Tourette's,
• 2:43:39
  and and
• 2:43:40
  there's one bloke that sings songs whilst he has a bad attack on it. Anyway, on with the story. They took all these
• 2:43:48
  postcards with Tourette's
• 2:43:50
  to
• 2:43:51
  France
• 2:43:52
  where there's a leading authority on it.
• 2:43:56
  They went to this university.
• 2:44:05
  Sorry. Set the scene. There's this lecture theater.
• 2:44:10
  I'm walks this fella.
• 2:44:11
  And you could always tell a psychiatrist
• 2:44:14
  because you look at the hang of their trousers.
• 2:44:16
  If it's four inches above the ankle,
• 2:44:19
  they're loony. If it's four inches below the ankle they're slovenly. This bloke had a pair of flared trousers on that were four inches above the ankle. He walked on and held all of them with the stretchy.
• 2:44:36
  And I was off the scene. You had to see it's purely visual.
• 2:44:40
  I was crying with laughter
• 2:44:43
  but
• 2:44:44
  the thing is they said whatever he was thinking
• 2:44:48
  and
• 2:44:50
  Unknown: Well there was that incident wasn't there at the film due recently? Was that within the last year? You see this is one of those things I need to put down in this diary of sort of crazy events and you go the year in review. I haven't got a year in review because I haven't made any notes so I've to start doing It was that Scottish fella that was winning an award for the film and of course he said the most racially inappropriate thing you could and everybody was outraged and someone was actually said don't you get it? That's that's what they do. They say the thing that is absolutely the most offensive thing to say it's like burning in their head because
• 2:45:23
  that's what the condition does and everybody's going it can't be right he needs to be locked up he's a racist he's got Tourette's maybe we should all plead that we've got Tourette's oh sorry I've just got Tourette's Sorry. I've got Tourette's
• 2:45:36
  though, by the way. You're great. But you're a very arsed idiot.
• 2:45:40
  Unknown: Yeah. Well,
• 2:45:41
  I I everyone says that people in America won't be able to understand this, but I could just see Ala Alaows,
• 2:45:47
  officer Crabtree
• 2:45:49
  with Tourette's because he was the one that couldn't speak French. Good morning.
• 2:45:53
  I was dizzy. I
• 2:45:56
  mean, that was classic.
• 2:45:58
  That was,
• 2:46:00
  Unknown: but that was the last of the real comedies I think. I don't think there's been a comedy since that. Oh, I don't know. There's this show, Eric. It's it's getting up ahead of steam. We're not doing too bad. We just need a few script writers in to tighten things up so that we we don't stick on one subject a little bit too long. Tonight's just been slightly different, hasn't it? It has been different. I've I've I've felt different about the whole show. I mean, all I actually didn't so a lady called Tash, if she's still listening, she might not be, but she might catch it. She organized it arranged it with Max and yeah fantastic yeah yeah really good. I've had a few people come forward say I want to organize getting you some guests and I'm finding it all a bit strange because I'm a bit of a sort of you know
• 2:46:40
  a bit set in my ways and all that kind of stuff. It really worked. It did work and there's some fantastic people out there to talk to and I think if I get more organized I could do slightly at least another show which I've been droning on about for two years now or something ridiculous.
• 2:46:54
  I have got the time back and
• 2:46:57
  as I was saying to you earlier in the day,
• 2:46:59
  although there was one slight technical issue tonight which was completely down to me, overall the station and everything is technically working really well.
• 2:47:09
  Although as I said the show that was on before us, they completely cocked it up. It's really irritating, I'm getting everything right and now other people are starting to cock. Yeah I don't know why I am they just had no sound for like forty minutes or something and there's nothing I can do about it. Can't well I can't actually come over to your house and switch your microphone on. Yeah it just happens every now and again it's called live radio and things just get cocked up. Yeah but Paul I'll tell you who you really do need to get on this show,
• 2:47:33
  Unknown: that chap that was on
• 2:47:35
  all the other more, where was it now, that chap that's on about population and what is being taken,
• 2:47:42
  Simon Elmer yesterday.
• 2:47:43
  He needs to come on here.
• 2:47:46
  Unknown: Oh I'm I'm I'm yeah I bigged it up at the beginning of the show here, I mentioned it. Yeah he was absolutely fantastic
• 2:47:52
  because he's got the nitty gritty on the detail and I think you know he's working away and he was saying things, he was saying things that are out there right?
• 2:48:00
  So these things have got to be described and get give other people courage to come forward and start saying these sorts of sentences. They've got to be said, that's the beginning is forming the idea and getting on with it, and I think it's encouraging. You go, as soon as you look around you've got a handful of allies
• 2:48:18
  and there's more than that. It's just that we're not all sort of in each other's spaces every minute of the day and that would be awkward as well, but you know what I mean. It
• 2:48:27
  changes
• 2:48:28
  your energy throughout your day, because I never I don't know about you, I never stop thinking about this stuff. I suspect many people here don't either. I'm
• 2:48:36
  Unknown: similar and I bet you you're gonna wake up tomorrow morning with with this national f off day.
• 2:48:41
  You're gonna wake up with a thousand and one ideas. I probably I'm gonna wake up tomorrow morning in prison for having shouted in the streets.
• 2:48:50
  I
• 2:48:51
  tell you what brought it home to me, and I made a bit of a joke a bit, a laugh a bit, but it's when I saw someone squatting
• 2:48:59
  in the street,
• 2:49:00
  that actually really
• 2:49:03
  really brought it home to me. Know, you don't expect to see that along the high street, someone on a bit green grass
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  having
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  a poo basically
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  and I just thought.
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  Unknown: You know what this has got to be a record Eric. We're about 10 this is the first time we've gone full lavatorial
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  and there's only about there's less than ten minutes to go. I'm impressed. I know you were there. By the way, I want to thank you for being so patient over the first two hours. You've been fantastic. I I felt awkward about it. I didn't know quite what to do. But I think you feel awkward because
• 2:49:35
  Unknown: the the fact is it's the show and and and
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  Unknown: what Max Max is fantastic. He needs to come on here again as well. Oh, will do. He just said it, so we'll we'll have him back. It'd be great. Yeah. Now that now that he's my best mate.
• 2:49:48
  Not really,
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  no. He's mean, the thing some of the things he was saying as well, I mean, like he's what three years older than me, and all his memories and stuff and his cultural influences, they're the same. So it's gonna you know, it's it's like two peas in a pod, and you'll you'll be similar, but it's it's the same sort of stuff. Yeah. Well, we're we're a similar age, and I think the thing what makes,
• 2:50:10
  Unknown: and also he lives in Mexico,
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  not that far from Helen. He's just was it up the road or down the road from her?
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  Unknown: No. No. Helen sent me a message saying, great. You've got on. I don't know if she's actually spoken to me. He was on somebody else's show as well recently that's also on FFT a couple of weeks ago. These ladies you see are very good at getting good guests on. I think they're much more charming than the hairy arse northerner like me, but whatever. It's good.
• 2:50:33
  And if we we connect up with these,
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  it's good to get his insight. Know, he's been working so hard for so many years Yeah. In doing these things, and it is important to hear this. It's people's experience about the process I'm particularly interested in at this moment in time or this period. You know it's like what is it that we could change that would make us more effective,
• 2:50:54
  to galvanize more people? Now maybe that's the wrong objective as well it makes me sit back and go I've got to do some noodling time.
• 2:51:01
  Unknown: I'll give it a shot. Places
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  Unknown: like Australia. Now Australia,
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  I saw a documentary that was made in the sixties. You can see it on YouTube I think,
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  and it was the place to be. It was the freedom place. It was a happy time. People went there and they had good music,
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  and that's why you had the 10 pound pom.
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  And that was people could go to Australia for £10, one way ticket.
• 2:51:28
  Yeah. And most of the people went,
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  some of them came back,
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  but, I worked with a chap who actually was a 10 pound pom, and he left in 1970.
• 2:51:38
  And he came back in 1975,
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  and he said he was shocked to see how the country changed in five years.
• 2:51:44
  He said, you don't notice it when you're living here,
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  but he said his mother used to leave her front and back door open in the summer so the nice cool breeze would run through the house.
• 2:51:55
  She he couldn't do that when he came back.
• 2:51:58
  He said his prime rate had gone up and when you consider this country now as a crime capital was it of Europe
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  or the world? Can't but it's
• 2:52:08
  just not right, the rape capital, I
• 2:52:12
  Unknown: think is it of Europe or not sure It may be, I don't know. It's off the charts mad.
• 2:52:19
  Language do you use to describe it? The language we need to be using is what we're gonna do to restore our nation. I mean
• 2:52:26
  I understand why we've got to describe some of the problems but I almost feel like that's a sticking point as well. I'm not ignoring it, I'm fully aware of it, but it's like I sort of want to spend more time using constructive building sentences
• 2:52:39
  to restore things the way that they need to go. I think you know thinking about whatever, and this goes for all of us, whatever your individual
• 2:52:47
  objective is and finding allies to fulfill that is a worthwhile thing to do.
• 2:52:53
  Don't know if you mentioned it on the show tonight, but when I was talking to him about ten days ago, Max said something, he said that the goal was to get out of here with your soul intact
• 2:53:03
  and it's certainly one of the goals, think it is, I think most people here are in that arena.
• 2:53:09
  We're fully aware of these encroachments upon us, that they're unnatural, that they
• 2:53:16
  create anxieties that should not exist, that the whole system is the system as a whole
• 2:53:21
  is just sick,
• 2:53:24
  and we are sick of it,
• 2:53:26
  and the only way to do it is to not resist it, is to restore ours. We actually do have one, but we've lost touch with it. We've been distracted,
• 2:53:33
  and I think it's like criticizing the enemy in a battle. Oh, look. They've got this nigga. Forget about that. What are we gonna do? Right? Let make them worry about us. It's easier said than done. That's why I just said it, but nevertheless, it's sort of I'm looking for guiding statements back to myself and others that I go oh that that's helping nudges in the right direction. It's just to move, it's to act
• 2:53:56
  Unknown: on anything. Psychologically,
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  I mean I was thinking of calling it national f a r, then c o u g h, cough day, so it's not so rude, but that will It's got to be rude.
• 2:54:09
  Unknown: It's to be rude.
• 2:54:11
  The working men won't know what you're talking about. He just, you know, he uses the f word all day long. Right? Yeah. And just give him, know, now can swear
• 2:54:20
  for England, literally,
• 2:54:22
  Unknown: in our case, or Scotland. Oh, said, could swear for England, or that's it, do your bit, swear for England, and it's so simple. And I think from that, we can do, like, little spring hops
• 2:54:35
  out from that. Yeah. Ripple out. And it's surprising how things travel.
• 2:54:41
  Look at the smiley face idea, the bloke who thought that one up. Look how far that's traveled. It's everywhere now.
• 2:54:47
  So I think that,
• 2:54:49
  yeah, I think we got we're on. I'm serious here. I think we're on to something.
• 2:54:54
  We really are on to something.
• 2:54:57
  And,
• 2:54:59
  Unknown: could go all way around the world. People are fed up with government. We really They are a bit. Mike Mantis by the way, a little while ago said get somebody on with Tourette's.
• 2:55:09
  Okay.
• 2:55:11
  I
• 2:55:12
  could ask my I could ask my, my sort of family relation.
• 2:55:17
  I've not spoken to him for a little while, but I don't know how well it would go. He's not really,
• 2:55:21
  as far as I'm aware, he's not curious about the topics that we cover here at this moment in his life, but I haven't spoken to him for a few years, you never know.
• 2:55:29
  Things are sort of all sorts of people are suddenly
• 2:55:32
  smelling
• 2:55:33
  the bad smell and going what's really going on and all that kind of stuff.
• 2:55:37
  You never know,
• 2:55:39
  you never know. I mean of course it would give us an excuse to swear as well, And then and then the whole thing would just go down the toilet. It'd be just awful. It'd be terrible. Well,
• 2:55:48
  Unknown: never mind. Mean, this farmer went to today, they've got, for children, of this children's holidays,
• 2:55:54
  and they got a cow safari.
• 2:55:57
  I said, what? They said, it's a cow safari. What they've got is a
• 2:56:02
  cart behind a cow, and then just take the kids around the around the cow field so they could see all the cows. And they said, the kids absolutely love it. It's fantastic. It's like being on a sort of African safari,
• 2:56:14
  but with cows.
• 2:56:16
  Unknown: Well, know, cows really I can understand why people did worship cows. You know, the Greeks were big into cows, weren't they? No cows. Right? You can't bring your babies up. That means major.
• 2:56:27
  Know like if you have a cheeseburger,
• 2:56:29
  no cheese and no burger right? It's it's a big thing because they want to get rid of cows don't they and everything like Oh yes. I'm just fed up of what they want to do. What I want to do is I want more cows. We just need to talk in the positive, we want more cows. Yeah. We want all the people that shouldn't be living with us to be repatriated,
• 2:56:44
  remigrated,
• 2:56:45
  not because we hate them, but because this doesn't work. And, also, you never asked us, so the answer's no. You don't cheekily get to just assume things over us. We need the court shutting down. Police needs to be shut down. Yeah. There's just tons of stuff.
• 2:56:58
  Eric has been been a fun last hour, hasn't it? It certainly has. And thanks thanks.
• 2:57:04
  Unknown: I really enjoyed Abax Egan. He needs to come on a guy. He's fantastic. And also his friend as well was very interesting. She was brilliant. Ivana. Yeah. Yeah. She was absolutely brilliant. So,
• 2:57:16
  Unknown: yeah, if we get to know him, we might get to know more of Max's mates and get them involved as well. That would be fantastic. Shout out to everybody in the chat and everything. You've all been absolutely wonderful,
• 2:57:25
  and, we'll be back again same time next week. Have a cracking week, and, practice your swearing. You're gonna need it to save the nation. We're gonna shout our way back to freedom. So And collect your cones. Remember that?
• 2:57:36
  Yeah. Collect your cones. We'll see you all next week, everybody. Have a good one.
• 2:57:40
  Show's coming up on FFT over the next few days or whatever. I might even be on tomorrow night at 07:00,
• 2:57:46
  something like that. Radio tarp. Can't help it. See you all soon. Bye for now.
• 2:58:12
  Unknown: Blasting the Voice of Freedom Worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
• 2:58:18
  Unknown: Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.