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Brewsers #350- Diana Hart · Brewsers

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Bruisers, the podcast about beer, coffee, booze and bruisers.
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  Speaker 1: I am your Hostory John, and today we talked to
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  Speaker 1: Diana Heart. We talked to her about her life as
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  Speaker 1: a heart, the British Bulldog, and so much more. This
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  Speaker 1: is such a fun conversation and I am so honored
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  Speaker 1: to be able to talk to her number three hundred
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  Speaker 1: and fifty. I love this interview and I loved actually
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  Speaker 1: talking to her. And as you see, it's a big one.
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  Speaker 1: So you don't want to hear from me, you want
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  Speaker 1: to hear from her. So without further ado, here is
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  Speaker 1: Diana Hart. I would like to welco the show at
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  Speaker 1: Diana Hart. How are you doing today, man, I'm doing
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  Speaker 1: very well.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very.
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  Speaker 1: Much, John, thank you for being here. This is an
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  Speaker 1: absolute honor. I have been a fan of your family,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously I've been a fan of your son for
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  Speaker 1: quite a while too. A real quick side story about
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  Speaker 1: your son. We were at a UFC convention years and
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  Speaker 1: years ago and he was supporting some You may have
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  Speaker 1: seen him work out with this thing where it's like
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  Speaker 1: a hand contraption where he kind of does.
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  Speaker 2: This and yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we were kind of walking the floor and
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  Speaker 1: we come up to him and we weren't expecting to
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  Speaker 1: run into any pro wrestlers at all that day, and
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  Speaker 1: so we saw him in My buddy and I's face
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  Speaker 1: just dropped. We were like, oh my god, I can't
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  Speaker 1: believe Harry Smith's here. And then he saw our faces.
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  Speaker 1: It just smiled so big, and he could not have
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  Speaker 1: been nicer.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's a good guy. Yeah, I know that. Thanks.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's called the burn machine, Okay maybe yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and he used to it. He's got a couple of them,
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  Speaker 2: but he just gave one to the gym owner because
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  Speaker 2: the gym owner he kind of builds his own equipment
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  Speaker 2: and stuff. So he's a hockey coach, but he's a
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  Speaker 2: powerlifter as well. Really really nice guys. So anyway, Harry
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  Speaker 2: gave it to him because he showed Harry one that
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  Speaker 2: he made and it's like a bar, but it's got tension,
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  Speaker 2: so if you're turning it like this, you can adjust
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  Speaker 2: the tension on this side of it, and then you
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  Speaker 2: can also reverse it or reverse your grips. But so
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  Speaker 2: it just adds to the gym owner's collection of really
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  Speaker 2: neat more than a gadget. I guess it is a
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  Speaker 2: piece of equipment, but yeah, his burn machine.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I talked to I told that story to Lance
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  Speaker 1: Archer one time and he said, oh yeah, he's still
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  Speaker 1: used that thing all the time. So I'm glad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like he's got you going. You can do
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  Speaker 2: it this way or this way or this way or
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  Speaker 2: hind your head, and you know he just does it like, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know in conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, it's just something you can
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  Speaker 1: do and yeah, still work out at the same time.
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  Speaker 2: It makes sense and it's it gives you a really
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  Speaker 2: really good burning, especially your forearms. Yeah, I imagine, but
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  Speaker 2: it's it's meant for h like boxing, like except you've
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  Speaker 2: got tension on it and you can adjust the tension
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  Speaker 2: on it. Plus the thing itself was is it's you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's made of chrome solid chrome, so you know you're
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  Speaker 2: doing this like you're on a speed bag, and plus
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  Speaker 2: your hope you can adjust at tension and the weight
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  Speaker 2: of it is is really good. I know why they
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  Speaker 2: call it a burn machine. Yeah, so I wonder was
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  Speaker 2: it in Las Vegas when you saw.
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  Speaker 1: Harry or no, that one was in Houston. I leave, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was Houston. Oh yeah he gets around, Yeah, oh
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  Speaker 1: he does. I'm so happy when I still see him
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  Speaker 1: still working. It makes me happy.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I saw a match with him, and oh gosh,
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember it, darn it. I wish I had
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  Speaker 2: written it down. I'd forget because I don't. I don't
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  Speaker 2: see these guys on a regular basis. And it's been
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  Speaker 2: years since I saw Harry Russell alive. But I was
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  Speaker 2: able to go out to Indianapolis the end of March
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  Speaker 2: for this Squared Circle expo, and it's the first convention
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  Speaker 2: I've been to, was first thing I've been to with
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  Speaker 2: Harry since Davy's Hall of Fame induction in twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 2: which is that she's supposed to be twenty twenty but
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  Speaker 2: the world went bananas and everything got locked down. And anyway,
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  Speaker 2: that was the first time Harry, George and I appeared
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  Speaker 2: at anything together for and we actually didn't have a
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  Speaker 2: live audience for that, but still there was there was
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  Speaker 2: a virtual audience, I guess that's what they call it.
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  Speaker 2: People were in the stands through through the screens, but anyway,
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  Speaker 2: they the expo in in Indianapolis was was phenomenal. There
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  Speaker 2: were thousands of people there and they had two live
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  Speaker 2: wrestling matches, so I saw Harry. They did one TV
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  Speaker 2: one taping, which was the second night that was Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: and there was a fellow there named LEAs Thatcher. Oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he commentated on the match. I knew he was somebody like.
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  Speaker 2: I saw him come out and the girl escorted him
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  Speaker 2: to like behind a curtain, and I could see that
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  Speaker 2: from where I was sitting. It was a really good
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  Speaker 2: advantage point. And then I saw him go up for
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  Speaker 2: the commentating for that the end the last match, and
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  Speaker 2: they introduced him and they said his name, and then
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, wow, that's that's because he worked
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  Speaker 2: in my dad that's territory for in stampede wrestling. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if it was Stampede Wrestling at that if
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  Speaker 2: that was the name, or if it was Wildcat Wrestling
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  Speaker 2: in sixty two though, so a year before I was born,
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  Speaker 2: and he was also I don't remember what city it
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  Speaker 2: was in, but he was at the so my dad had,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he had a circle of friends. He's like Harry,
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  Speaker 2: he has a probably five very very best friends on
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  Speaker 2: one hand that you can you know, you could name
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  Speaker 2: on one hand, but so my dad had. You know,
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  Speaker 2: there was a George Gordienko and Sandra Kovacs and Lord
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  Speaker 2: Jann Blears. There were a few others, but one of
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  Speaker 2: them was Luther Lindsay. He was just really accountable amateur
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  Speaker 2: wrestler term professional that my dad just loved. He carried
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  Speaker 2: his picture and my dad carried his picture in his wallet,
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  Speaker 2: but he didn't didn't didn't carry that many pictures in
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  Speaker 2: his wallet. So anyway, lest thatcher was was at the match,
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  Speaker 2: at the event where Luther Lindsay actually died. So Luther
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  Speaker 2: Lindsay had walking pneumonia, is what last told me. And uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know they like, you know, tough man. You know
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  Speaker 2: he walk around with with things that might kill other people.
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  Speaker 2: But they you know this guy was lutheror is really
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  Speaker 2: tough and didn't let him bother him anyway. He what
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  Speaker 2: happened though, was he got slammed or step go on,
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  Speaker 2: I jumped from the the guy jumped from a rope
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  Speaker 2: or something but hit him in the heart and it
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  Speaker 2: uh caused it. That's what caused him to die. And
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  Speaker 2: uh less was he said. He remembered as Luther Lindsay
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  Speaker 2: was going out to the ring because he my dad
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  Speaker 2: had a nickname for my mom, which like he my
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  Speaker 2: dad was really wasn't a demonstrative person with uh you know,
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  Speaker 2: he didn't. You never hear him calling calling somebody a babe,
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  Speaker 2: or or unless he was saying it sarcastically, he might
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  Speaker 2: call you honey, like he really really sarcastically. So when
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  Speaker 2: we were growing up, if we said something, you know, well,
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  Speaker 2: eat up, honey, it was meant you know it was
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  Speaker 2: it was a jab at you. You know, you were
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  Speaker 2: you're being delicate. But anyway, my dad was just such
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  Speaker 2: a good man, but not trying to make him sound
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  Speaker 2: like he was, uh, you know, too hard. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: he called my mom Buffy. That was like his little
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  Speaker 2: name name for her, Buffy. And so Luther Lindsay thought
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  Speaker 2: that was pretty, you know, kind of neat, so he
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  Speaker 2: kind of picked it up. But he would say it
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  Speaker 2: to guys in real affection, ye like, and I guess
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  Speaker 2: he told less just as he's going out to the ring,
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  Speaker 2: he said, I'll see you in a bit, Buffy, or
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  Speaker 2: see in see in twenty minutes Buffy. And then Luther died.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, another just another side note. Lindsay his second
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  Speaker 2: name Lindsay is what my dad named my brother Ross
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  Speaker 2: his second name. So my brother Ross is Ross Lindsey Heart.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of our names were, particularly second names, were
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  Speaker 2: in honor of somebody, either a relative or or somebody
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  Speaker 2: that my mom and dad held very close to their hearts.
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  Speaker 2: So my brother Ross, his middle name is Lindsay and
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  Speaker 2: that's after Luther Lindsay. And yeah, so so getting back
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  Speaker 2: to Harry, I'm sorry, getting back to Harry. I saw
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  Speaker 2: this match with him and it was great. If I
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  Speaker 2: can find it, it's so it was Square Circle Expo,
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  Speaker 2: so if you look on their website they would probably
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  Speaker 2: have it. And Les Thatcher did the commentating and it
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  Speaker 2: was a really really good match. And a few times
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  Speaker 2: in the match Harry was he got ah, like, Harry
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  Speaker 2: is a nice guy, but he's not. He's he can
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  Speaker 2: mix it up in the ring, he's not you know,
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't just he's just he's not mister polite all
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  Speaker 2: the time, you know. You know, So some of the
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  Speaker 2: fans were a little you know, they weren't sure when
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  Speaker 2: Harry was uh oh man, some of the huppercuts and
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  Speaker 2: stuff they and his forearm smashes, they're just there's you know,
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  Speaker 2: he just he he hits home with them. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that was that was great to see Harry Russell though,
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  Speaker 2: because I don't get to see it very often, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, the stuff in Japan. I I would love
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  Speaker 2: to go over there sometimes and see him perform over there.
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  Speaker 2: And I always wanted to go to Japan, even before
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  Speaker 2: I met Davey in eighty one. It was my dream
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  Speaker 2: to go to Japan and model. And then when I
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  Speaker 2: did get some interest, my mom she was kind of
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  Speaker 2: kind of opposed to it. She just said, you don't
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  Speaker 2: know what we I know it was a good idea.
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  Speaker 2: She she was probably right, but I was. I was
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  Speaker 2: kind of miffed when she's because I got a letter
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  Speaker 2: saying they were it was all above board. But it
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  Speaker 2: was through somebody that was in friends with cig Sakagucci
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  Speaker 2: that was with New Japan Pro Wrestling and they ran
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  Speaker 2: a modeling agency over there, and I wrote a letter
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  Speaker 2: to to them and said that I was, you know,
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  Speaker 2: introduced myself as as you know, someone from Canada that
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  Speaker 2: worked with whose family worked with the uh Antonio Manoki
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  Speaker 2: and Cigi Sakagucci. So I was definitely name dropping and
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  Speaker 2: seeing what I could where it would go and and
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  Speaker 2: there was interest, but they replied back that we would
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  Speaker 2: like to have you come over, and my mom just
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  Speaker 2: put her foot down and said no, and I was,
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  Speaker 2: I was. I was mad about that. But I know
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  Speaker 2: my mom, she knew things that I didn't know, So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and what sixteen seventeen wanting to go to
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  Speaker 2: another country and you know, drop everything to go over there.
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  Speaker 2: And but I was absolutely obsessed with Japan. I was
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  Speaker 2: just had T shirts. You know, everything is better in Japan,
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  Speaker 2: Like I don't. I'd never even been there, but I was.
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  Speaker 2: I was adamant about it. It's like I was speaking
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  Speaker 2: from you know, firsthand knowledge, but it was all it
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  Speaker 2: all I had. I'm still really you know, she's still
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  Speaker 2: one of my best friends from high school, Alison, and
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  Speaker 2: she's taller than I am and blonde and definitely modeling material.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like five foot eight, she's taller and she's definitely
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  Speaker 2: modeling material. But I I was obsessed with her and
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  Speaker 2: me going over there to to model. But Antonio and
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  Speaker 2: ok and Tatsuomi Fujinami came to Calgary to do a
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  Speaker 2: show for my dad and I got to give flowers
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  Speaker 2: to Antonio and ok Oh wow. And that was kind
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  Speaker 2: of where the obsession started because I was, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I you know, just was hearing the talk around the kitchen.
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  Speaker 2: I guess for about you know what you know Antonio
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  Speaker 2: and Ok, you know he's like an icon over in
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  Speaker 2: Japan and Tatsoomi Fujinami and then the Dynamite Kid had
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  Speaker 2: a match that Friday night and against Tattoomi Fujinami and
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  Speaker 2: they had been over a few times, the All New
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  Speaker 2: Japan Contingency, and I got to see this. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: get to go to the wrestling that often in those days,
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  Speaker 2: for just wasn't something that girls really did in our family.
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  Speaker 2: But what I saw, I did got to go to
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  Speaker 2: that match because I was presenting Antonio and OK with
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  Speaker 2: the Flowers, and I saw the match, the matches, and
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  Speaker 2: I just I just was so starstruck, I guess. And
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  Speaker 2: then I was also getting introduced to the likes of
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  Speaker 2: the English style that came to Calgary, and I mean
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  Speaker 2: it didn't come to Calgary before that. There was Les
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  Speaker 2: Thornton and Jeff Ports and John Foley had been in
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  Speaker 2: Calgary for I think he came to Calgary and seventy
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  Speaker 2: six or seventy seven and a really good he was
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  Speaker 2: pretty tough John Foley. So anyway, I wasn't that just
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  Speaker 2: wasn't at the age yet I was still like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: just you know, unless you had a car. He didn't.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't go anywhere, but I got my license when
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  Speaker 2: I was sixteen and stuff. So always travel up, you know,
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  Speaker 2: have have cart, will travel or whatever, have car, will travel.
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  Speaker 2: So I did. I would go down to the matches
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  Speaker 2: with on occasion with my friend Alison. It was we
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  Speaker 2: had to be very private about it because my dad
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't have been you know, he just I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It was kind of like going going somewhere unchaperoned, and
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  Speaker 2: it was just at the end there was this not
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  Speaker 2: a big deal or anything. It just it was just
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  Speaker 2: not appropriate for me to be going down there with
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  Speaker 2: without a person or a reason. And so yeah, the
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  Speaker 2: word unchaperoned is fitting there. So anyway, I started to
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  Speaker 2: I saw the Dynamite Kids wrestling live, and I saw
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  Speaker 2: I saw him wrestling on TV, and that opened my
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  Speaker 2: eyes up to what really uh phenomenal wrestling was. And
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  Speaker 2: then later when I met Davey. So I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to sound arrogant about because I'm just you know, one
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  Speaker 2: of the daughters. I grew up in wrestling, but I
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  Speaker 2: really feel like what I saw starting at about the
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  Speaker 2: age of sixteen when I could and then when I
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  Speaker 2: met Davy, it was it was as often as I
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  Speaker 2: could watch live wrestling. I think I got I'm biased
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  Speaker 2: about what I will watch with with wrestling, and if
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  Speaker 2: it's not, if it's not if you're not accountable in
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  Speaker 2: the ring, then I just, you know, rather don't watch it.
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  Speaker 2: So when I get to see Harry wrestle, it's you know,
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  Speaker 2: but but and yeah, sorry, I do. I do digress.
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  Speaker 2: But my obsession with Japan was was started with wanting
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  Speaker 2: to go there to model, and then I was convinced.
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  Speaker 2: Even in my high school grade twelve yearbook when you
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  Speaker 2: have to give your your one sentence about where your
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  Speaker 2: future is going to go. I was also the president
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  Speaker 2: of my high school and my best friend Allison was
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  Speaker 2: the vice president, which it's kind of funny that happened.
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  Speaker 2: My brother Dean said it was you know, I was
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  Speaker 2: the last, like number eleven of the twelve kids, so
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  Speaker 2: he as he put it to me, and Dean was
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  Speaker 2: very he was a really awesome promoter. But he said, Diana,
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  Speaker 2: it's up to you now, because my brother Wayne ran
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  Speaker 2: for president and he got expelled from school and they
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't let him round. It was I saw how politics
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  Speaker 2: work back then. I just saw how everything. If they
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  Speaker 2: don't want you to do something, they'll find a way to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, have your name smeared or so. Anyway, Wayne
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  Speaker 2: didn't make it. That was nineteen sixty nine, and then
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  Speaker 2: my brother Ross ran for I think he ran for
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  Speaker 2: president or vice president. Ross is just above me in
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  Speaker 2: the family. But he's born January of nineteen sixty and
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  Speaker 2: I'm October sixty three. So anyway, he he I wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have been at really at the high school when he
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  Speaker 2: was there. He did stay for an extra half a
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  Speaker 2: semester because there was just some courses he wanted to take.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, Ross ran and he didn't win. And that
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  Speaker 2: so Dean put it approached me about it. He just said, Diana,
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  Speaker 2: it's up to you. You know that one of the
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  Speaker 2: hearts has to be the president of Ernest Manning High School.
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  Speaker 2: Like there's no way around it. You got to run
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  Speaker 2: and you're going to win and and I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: help you, and you know, and Ernest Manning was high
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  Speaker 2: school was a school that all my brothers and sisters
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  Speaker 2: went to, and my kids went to it, and since
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  Speaker 2: then that's high school. That location. The school there got
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  Speaker 2: torn down and it's in a new place, but that school,
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  Speaker 2: that location and everything, even my kids went to it.
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  Speaker 2: So I appreciate Dean making a point of making me
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  Speaker 2: run for a president and and I won so and
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  Speaker 2: then later did get expelled for causing mischief for something.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, my little thing in the yearbook at the
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  Speaker 2: end of it said I am going to go to
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  Speaker 2: Japan and I'm planning and running for president. And some
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  Speaker 2: of my other brothers, some of my brother Smith, he
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  Speaker 2: didn't have the Japan part, but he said he was
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  Speaker 2: going to run for president and that he he hated communism,
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  Speaker 2: which was so funny because I hate communism too, but
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  Speaker 2: he put it in his little thing, and and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's funny that page of the yearbook that my brother
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  Speaker 2: Smith is on his last his last year, well, he
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  Speaker 2: must have gone back for an extra semester or something,
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  Speaker 2: because he's in the same yearbook on the same page
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  Speaker 2: as my brother Bruce, who's who's younger. So and Bruce
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  Speaker 2: said something similar to like that we were all going
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  Speaker 2: to run all going to be president. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: of what. Yeah, you know, president of wrestling or president
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  Speaker 2: of of a community or but Smith wasn't president of
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  Speaker 2: the school. That's that's that didn't happen. But so and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I was going to be president of UH. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think i'd put a country or anything in specific in particular.
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  Speaker 2: But and I said I was going to go to Japan.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Well I'm still still that's still on the list of
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: things to do. I haven't gone to Japan, but I
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: was president of my school.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: So yeah, you definitely got to mark that Japan I realistic.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I thought I would have by now,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: you know, it's just it's it's almost not acceptable. Then
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: I've let it go this this long. I'm not sure
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: what that will look like, how I will go, you know,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: like I can't see me going there just on a trip,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: like you know, going as a I think i'd have
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: to go in some kind of wrestling capacity. But so far, John,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: there's nothing, nothing on the horizon, nothing pending.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. I mean, as you know, in wrestling,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: never say never.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, that's this is this is true, never
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: say never. I I I hope, like just talking about
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: that convention, I I am this past year, Okay, so
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I I embarked on a like I I've been trying
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: to get a job, you know, find some employment, Like
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I really really feel like I should be in doing
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: something in wrestling. But you know that for some reason, John,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: it's like for people that don't and a lot of
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: people don't know anything about me, or they know they
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: they see me in a at a I don't know,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: ladies tea or a church function or something. They a
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: lot of people don't have any don't associate me with
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: with wrestling. A lot of them know I'm Brett's sister
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: and then this sad you know, and Owen's sister. It's yeah,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: it was both both beautiful things.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: You know that.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I know they really mean they have the best intentions
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: when they say Owen's name, but it's always almost like
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: with the Winds. But we can celebrate Owen. He was
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: he was he was so funny and athletic and charming
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: and prankster. And but anyway, a lot of people their
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: reality for me is, you know, as they've gotten to
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: know me a little bit, is like you know, he's
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: still looking for a job, and yeah, I am, and
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: well but I've been looking like for a long time.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: But honestly, I think God has God spoke, you know.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: It's you're not supposed to have that job or that
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: job or that job. You're not like I applied, Joe,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I applied at so many jobs John that it was
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: it was kind of it was absurd, like I don't
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: know one hundred and fifty jobs.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I've been there. Yeah, trying to find a job as
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: a full time job. It is it is like you
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: have to do the applications and then you have to
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: wait on the interviews and then wait even longer for
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: maybe the second interviews, and it's like what are we doing?
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Why do we have to wait a lot? I don't
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: know what the deal is.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's disheartening these job interviews, and I
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: know some of them when I came in, well, the
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: ones that I did get get, you know, an interview
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: face to face. When they'd see me, it was like
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: it was like, uh, you know, they think I'm just
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: coming into the place because I'm there for a meeting
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: or something like to see not not about the job.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: I'm there to see somebody in Yeah, you know, in
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: energy or something, and then it's like, oh no, I'm
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: here for the job. And you can just see their
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: faces like like, oh, we thought you were younger.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: It's like, oh, well no, I'm this is me and
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: oh well we And so it started out, you know,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: like you know, I've I had high, high expectations, you know,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: because it.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Started out and uh trying to get a job in
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: oil and gas administration and then uh, you know, I
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: got laid off from that a long time ago. But
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: it's like, well, go back into that field now and
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: see what I can do and what maybe I'll get
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: a job in filing or something. Well nope, nope, nope, nope,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: that didn't get you know, I don't know if it's
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: my age or I know that my skills are are antiquated,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: if not obsolete. So you know, it's like do you
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: know Google documents? It's like no, I don't. Do you know,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: you know, are you familiar with such and such shop?
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I'm like no, I No, I don't. I So you know,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: then I kind of lower, not not lower the bar,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: but it's like, you know, just I'll just try receptionist
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: and and you know, receptionists at you know, in businesses.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: But but you know, then it's like receptionists at you
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: know anything, you know, receptionists at the car dealership. You know.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Then it's like I'll do photography at car dealerships, you know,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: taking pictures, but nothing, you know, just kept getting getting
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: more and more discouraged. And so I decided to somebody,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: so do one of these these things where they over sixty,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: where they they analyze your your your skills and where yeah,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: yes and yes. So this assessment came up with that
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I'd be good with animals, so possibly a dog walker.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: It's like okay, but I couldn't find anything in that,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: or or dog grooming or animal grooming. Nope, nothing, carpet cleaning.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: It's like, okay, well I don't have a van, but
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: you know, then then you can go and get a
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: loan and get a big, you know, a van, and
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: you have the whole the whole thing, and you're in
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: this your whole operation is on the is on four wheels,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: and I don't know. It just didn't appeal to me
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: as much as the assessment seemed to think it would.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: But not nothing was it was coming across coming through
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: in anything and an administrative weight so the next one
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: was truck driver. So I was like, okay, well I
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: love driving, I do like driving. I not, but okay,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: the point of this whole thing is I was encouraged
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: to become, you know, get into driving. So they had
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: this this course you could take. You get paid out
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: for your training after if you completed the course. But
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: what ended up happening was I got the vehicles in
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: a snowstorm. In fairness to me, I got the vehicle
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: this big got it stuck in coming. Honestly, I don't
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: even know what what I what like. It's like if
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I could get my writer's blocked unblocked, I'd love to
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: write a comedy about it. I got it stuck and
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: had an accident in it and got it. Really they
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: gave me it, gave me a chaperone. And she got
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: her vehicle stuck in this on the same road that
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: my vehicle got stuck. But I was somehow mine was
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: preventable and hers wasn't, So I'm not. But she was
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: in such a bad mood after she she got stuck,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: and she's sitting in the car and it's we're driving
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: down where I live with my boyfriend Tom or we're
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: way out of we're well, we're out in the country
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: and it's a long it's about a five kilometer road
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: to get to his property, and it's just a it's
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: a it's you can get two cars on the road,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: but when there's snow, it's kind of like just one
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: lane and one dirt road. But he so I'm I drive.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: It was pretty hard to get Well, it's like a
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: cat that climbs up the total the telephone pole, but
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: they don't know how to get back down. I can
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: get down Tom's long road and into his little driveway,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: but now I can't. It's like I don't know how
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: to get out. I got it back up and that's
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: how I got it stuck. And so the girl, my chaperone,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: we're driving back. Yeah, we had to call two toe
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: trucks to get me out that night before my and
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: they were really nice toe talk drivers. I was. I
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: was quite grateful to them, but uh, they had to
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: call one to lift the back end. The lift it
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: was so the girl that I was driving with, that
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: my chaperone, she wouldn't talk to me for like she
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: put her hand out, this is not right now, not
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: right now. It's like, well, yeah, I know, like I'm
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: but so, and then I had I had an accident.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Then you know, it was just a cascaded into one
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: bad thing after another, and then I was on suspension.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: This is all in the first two days. So it's
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: like God is telling me, this is not what I'm
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: supposed to do. So kind of out of the blue,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: this convention came up for this Square Circle Expo in Indianapolis,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: and I I contacted the guy I was and he said,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: I would love to have bring you out for it,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: and and then he and Harry was out for it
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: as well, and we had a table, shared a table
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: together and and not not gonna let it go to
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: my head. But as a result of that, I've gotten
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: like four appearances to come up. Ones in Winston, North
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Carolina right after America the American Thanksgiving, and I'm going
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: to go to that with my daughter Georgia and drive there.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: So I'll go to Tampa and then drive from Tampa
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: to Charlotte with her dog. She's got a bulldog and
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: the bulldog is little Matilda, and she got that. She's
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: such a cute dog. She's so sweet. She's she's a
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: big girl and really powerful and she takes she takes
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: you for a walk, it's not taking her for a walk.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: And she's a really good, really a good little hunter.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: She gets the lizards in Florida. I know, she's got
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: like X ray eyes. She can see them in the
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: leaves and then she pounces on them like it's almost
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: like the little prance. Yeah, and then and then she'll
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: get one in her mouth and she'll have like the
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: tail hanging up, and it's so it's it's quite cute.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: I'm sure the lizard doesn't it doesn't agree, but it's
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: it's pretty funny. But so Georgia Matilda and I Matilda.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: When Georgia was looking for a bulldog, she contacted the
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: American Kennel Club, I think that's a case or something
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: like that, and she was looking for the original Matilda
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: that Davy and Dynamite had. And so, I mean there's
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: lots of the splinter I mean, especially over the years,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: but but this is one that's from that line that
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Matilda was from.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: So that's incredible.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: So it's it's a appropriate to call her a little Matilda.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: And we're gonna bring her to that drive to it
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: and and I'll get to appear with Georgia. So's it'll
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: be yeah, it'll be great. So yeah, so so yeah,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I don't think I'm not you know, the carpet cleaning thing.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: I do carpet cleaning. I've got a lot of animals
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: or well cats. Now I don't know where I live.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: I don't have any any dogs anymore. But maybe one
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: day I'll get something will find its way by some
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: divine intervention. Okay, but what It's an interesting story drawn
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: on a boat that with I had a little you know,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: I always was a big dog person, Rottweiler, I mean whatever.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: I had all kinds of dogs over the years, but
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: rott Weiler's Davy and I had Rottweiler's. And then we
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: got uh Matilda, and we got we had a Newfoundlander
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: that was a gift from superstar Billy Graham, and unfortunately
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: the neighbor shot him, which was really terrible. What he
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: what happened? But he seemed to think but we lived
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: on acreages, so I guess his name was Hershey he
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: was because he looked like chocolate and he went over
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: to that's that's too bad. But anyway, he had a
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: great life right up to that moment. So that's that
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: was good. I don't think he saw it coming. So anyway,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: it was it wasn't a sad death. I mean it's
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: sad for me. But anyway, we had Hershey, and we
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: had Holly rock Weiler and Brutustweiler and and then we
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: got Matilda and uh and then we moved to Florida
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: and we had Cocobe Ware so gave us a rock Wiler.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: And anyway, we were at a park or no a
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: soccer game, and there was a lady that had this
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: this shitsu and she the woman that It's just kind
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: of funny, how you know, beauty is in the eye
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: of the beholders, really cute, pure bread. Well shitsu and
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: the shitsu had an overbite or like a bulldog were
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: like that. And the woman that had bought the dog
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: originally didn't want it because it had the overbite, and
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: so she gave it. And this exchange happened in the
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: parking lot where Harry was out of soccer playing soccer.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: And I'm just and Davy and I were there, and
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Georgia and I think my sister Ellie and her daughters
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: were there. I don't think Jim Nightheart was there, but
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: I remember Ellie being there anyway that it was like,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: you know, people are kind of fawning over this little dog.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: And we went over and the woman said, yeah, would
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: anyone want to buy her? I just got her back
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: because somebody didn't want her because of her mouth like that.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: And I was so right away, you know, I'm always
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: for the underdog. And it's like, oh, no, what, she's perfect,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with her. Well, so Davy bought her,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: like on the spot. I don't know. She was like,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know, fifty dollars or something. A bargain. I mean,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: she would have for how great she was. She would
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: have been a bargain at a thousand dollars, but anyway,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: it was more of a just give this woman something.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: She said fifty or seventy five, I can't remember. But
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: so we had dainty and that was sort of the
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: start of of our change in direction from from the
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: big dogs to the small dog. So I got this.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: We got this little Pomeranian in Florida. This was long
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: after Davvy had passed. It was like two thousand and nine,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: I guess. And this little dog was my daughter George's,
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: and her she was she had had another Pomeranian before that,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: who was totally different personality, very very confident, little little
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: pomp but different than this one. The second one named
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Roxy and Georgia. Georgia acquired her, and Roxy was a
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: real loud mouth, and you know, it's just figure if
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: she was a person, she'd be you know, you know,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: where are you? Why are you? Why are you so late? Why?
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Like just you know. But and then Georgia was gonna
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: she I moved back to Calgary, and then Georgia came
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: to Calgary, dropped Roxy off. She stayed for a couple
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: of months and then moved back or she'd moved to England,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: and I just sort of inherited Roxy, and I got
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: so attached to that little dog. She was just so
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: what a bossy, opinionated. And then when we moved in
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: with when my boyfriend Tom invited us to to move
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: in with him, you know, he she she got really
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: fat living with him. He was he hunts, so he
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: started feeding her some pretty nice food, but you know
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: he'd dip it in, you know, some nice side orders
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: with the pheasant or Hungarian partridge or whatever. So she
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: passed away though in twenty twenty two, and I was
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: so sad. You know, it's just like and it was
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: during in Canada anyway, we were still, you know, being
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: flogged with these really tyrannical lockdowns and stuff, and I
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: just was really I was quite sad. And and Roxy
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: died in March. And so about two months later, three,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: just a little while later, on Tom's balcony during a
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: storm that had been going on for about five days.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: It was a really really bad storm, middle of June, rain, rain, rain, grit, wind,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: you could see your breath. That was just miserable, and
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: it was NonStop and on his balcony. The only way
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: you can get to his balcony is through the house.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: And there's no way that that this this little cat
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: got there. When we were talking about divine interventions. She
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: she was this starving little black kitten with white paws
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: like Sylvester, and full of tree sap and she had
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: little pebbles and grass stuck in her fur from the
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: tree sap that was, you know, collecting, like so these
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: little rocks were in the paths of her feet, so
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: she could it's like she had tap dancing shoes on.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: But it must have hurt, and she was muddy and dehydrated,
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: and I I just think she She has her own
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Instagram page, sports Annie, but I think she you know,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: God dropped her off for me because he knew I
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: was so sad about about Roxies. It's not like I,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: you know, I was incapacitated. I couldn't get out of
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: bed or anything. But it was just she was with
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: me every from the minute my feet hit the ground
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: to you know, she was really almost almost passed, you know,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: just you know, like everywhere, and especially when you're eating.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: She wouldn't leave you alone, but very chummy, you know,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: shoulder right in with you when you're watching TV or
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: you know, pastor until you picked her up, and you know,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: she'd sit on your lap for especially during meals. But anyway,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: I just I so yeah about divine intervention. That was
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: so that that job, you know, too bad. It had
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: to be an accident and be getting stuck and suspended,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: but you know, God works in really mysterious ways and
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: you don't understand it. At the time, I was just
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: so so upset, like why can't I get anything right?
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: What's what's wrong with me? I can't I've been trying
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: to get a job, and I'm not saying like, oh,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: I you know, I've got my career laid out for
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: me now because I've got four appearances. But I really
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: I met someone through a wrestler who's been who helped
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: me build a website. He he worked on tugboats website
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: and then yeah, and he's he's been just a fountain
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: of patients and good ideas and helping me with all
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: kinds of things. And that's led to some other things.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: So you know, I got and that got me back
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: in touch with I'll show you in a second this.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I got the Goldsmiths. There was Martin and Harvey. I
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: got to be better friends with Martin and his wife Daphne. Well,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: the Goldsmiths did the all the big royal concerts, especially
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: in the in the eighties and nineties, like they would
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: do the for Princess Diana. I think there was this
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: there's a name for the actual concerts, but they were
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: promoting all the big shows at Wembley Stadium and they
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: were the ones that promoted SummerSlam nineteen ninety two that
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Davy Wrussell Brett and defeated Brett for the Intercontinental Championship
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: belt I'm my Dad.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: And which is hardably one of the greatest wrestling matches
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: of all time. So if anybody who hasn't seen that match,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: go out of your way to watch that. It's absolutely amazing.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: I actually watched it for the first time last night.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know why it took me so long. That
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: match literally is so fantastic. And i'd heard your interview
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: you did with Sean Mooney years ago and you talked
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: about how much you know he you know, Davy had
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: the staff infection and everything before that. So I recommend
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: anybody to go out of their way to go listen
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: to that part first and then go watch that match.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: You would not even think at all that Davy had
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: not worked out or not done anything beforehand, because that
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: match was just so good. I mean, you had two
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: of the greatest in the ring as it is, so
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: that match wasn't going to be bad. But the fact
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: that Davy was still able to like carry you know,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: through the match as much as it did. But the
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: match was like thirty minutes long, so it was a
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: long Yeah.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: You know, it's I'm glad you brought that up, drawn
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: because you know, there there have been a there's been
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: I'll just say that the stuff that Davy went through
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: leading up to that match. Was it was he I
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: have the receipts, I have the hospital bills, I've got
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: the emergency room reports. I even have because I save things.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: But again like I don't save everything, but I had.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: I came across this receipt and it's for a gas
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: station in Haydock, which is right outside Davy's hometown in Golborn.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: And uh, with his actual signature. It's not the copy,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: it's the signature he got gas. He he was in England.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Like this was like a week before the event, but
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: so Salem, Massachusetts, Portland, Maine, they're all kind of in
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: that area the northeastern United States, and they would do
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: two nights at TV tapings. I think it was Sunday
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Monday or Monday Tuesday, and it was just I think
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: it was called Wrestling Superstars Monday Night. Row didn't exist
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: yet anyway. Davey wrestled Mike Sharp and we were already
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: in Calgary. Harry Georgia and I were in Calgary and
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: we were we were doing we had just done interviews.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Ww F flu a TV crew up to do interviews
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: with our family about you know, whose side were we
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: on for this this match with brother versus brother in law,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: and there's a lot of authenticity to that. I mean,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: it wasn't just you know, you say you're on Brad's
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: side and you say you're on on davy side. There
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: was a lot of Like my brother Bruce was legitimately saying, I,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Davy should have have that belt, he should have a
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: run with that belt. That should be it would be
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: really good for him. You know, my dad was involved
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: in my mom she just basically stayed neutral but said
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: she didn't want anyone to get hurt. And that was
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: my stance on it. But I mean, you know, I
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: of course would be hoping for my my husband, but
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I had seen of course, you know, it's just but
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: I saw Davy and Brett rescue each other and live
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: in Calgary and heard about them having these just knock
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: down dragouts in Regina and Victoria for Stampede Wrestling. And
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: you know how Davy burst Brett's ear drum in one
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: match or at the same match, and Brett cracked Davy's
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: rib and you know, they and I just so I
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: have all of this in my head. You know, they
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: legitimately they're going to put on such a good match
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: that you know, for the sake of having a good match,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: you know, they might you know, pull their knee out
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: or an ear drum might get burst again or something.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: But I didn't know that Davy kind of as I'm
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: saying this, that Davy gets staph infection in his leg.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: So he wrestled Mike Sharp. He called me that night
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: and I at my dad's house and said he had
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: not sure what he did to his knee, but he
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: said it was just like when you hit your funny
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: bone and it goes hot. It's like, you know, I
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: don't know, it just went really hot, and I don't know.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: It just doesn't seem right. But talk to you tomorrow
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: and how are you and how the interviews go, and
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: you know, a nice conversation. Well, anyway, the next day
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: he's like called me again and he's like, I'm going
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: to TV tapings in Portland, Maine, and I don't feel good.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: I don't feel well at all, like and I'm gonna
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: not sure what it is. So anyways, it turns out,
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: which we didn't know till later, like a week later,
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: he had the flesh eating disease. And we didn't know.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was very unheard of then, but Vince
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: saw him after you, so it's it's just escalating. His
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: his fever, he's getting he looks awful. He's got his
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: leg is getting fat, or his his knee is getting fat.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: And Vince said, go home, just you can't wrestle and
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: take care of yourself. Just go home, Davy, and and
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: just just take care of yourself, like you know. He
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: but nobody knew that was this. And I know later
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: with the flash heating disease, how I lost a nephew
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: to it. And it was, it was, it was. It
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: was even more graphic than what Davey went through, what
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: my nephew, Matthew went through. But and it's funny when
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Matthew got the flesh eating disease, they didn't know what
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: then either, but Davey said, because he had had it,
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: he said, I pray to God he doesn't have that
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: flesh eating disease, he said, and he did. And then
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: they and and he didn't make it. But my sister
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Ellie phoned me from Tampa because Jim picked Davy up
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: at the airport. Jim wasn't with WWE at the time,
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: he was in time out or something. But he wasn't
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: with them, so Jim picked him up and Ellie called
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: me when Davey got home, and I talked to Davy too,
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: and he didn't sound great, but I was I was like, well,
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: you know, we're just kind of newly back in Calgary.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: I'd like to spend a bit of time with my
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: mom and dad and Harry and Georgia can see everyone.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: And we'd only been there like a week, but I
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: was planning on staying for like way longer, and I
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: always said, and I think you need to come home. Anyway,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: I did come home, and the doctor took all these
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: vials full of fluid out of Davy's leg and I
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: was at the room, so we didn't have healthcare, and
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: I'm sure Vince McMahon would have covered it. Right at
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: the moment though, it's just like, we're gonna go see
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: this doctor that someone referred us to in spring Hill,
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: which was like an hour and a half away from
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: where we lived, and he's a pretty apprehensive doctor, pretty aggressive. God.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: He said, I don't know what this is, but I
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: think he had an idea, but again, he hadn't seen
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: anything like it, and he's and the x rays showed
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: that there was some probably some existing damage to Davy's knee,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: but it wasn't what the problem was. So in an
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: X ray, you're not going to see it's not going
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: to show you like fluid and stuff like that. It's
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: going to show you the bone. And so we knew
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: it wasn't something with his bone, but it's like, why
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: why is his leg so fat? There's no no parent injury,
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: but his leg, John, it was so fat and stiff
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: that we thought if he bent it, his leg was
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: gonna like burst, like like bacon fat when it's starting
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: to thaw and it starts to break apart. That that's
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: what I and and he actually couldn't bend his leg.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: And we had so much trouble getting him into the
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: van because it was me, Ellie and Jim. But Davy
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: was just dead weight and he's got the leg that
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: that's just straight out. He couldn't wouldn't bend. And the
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: doctor put him on, uh, just a battery of antibiotics,
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: and he said, I'm going to take these and get
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: them tests, and I get the results as fast as
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: I can. It's going to take probably a day, but
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: I'm pumping you literally shooting up and into Davy's leg antibiotics,
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: and he said, I just hope one of these works,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: and then if because I don't know what it is.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: So for the next apparently, my brother Bratt said he
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: had been trying to get a hold of Davy that
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: month or you know, from July, last week of July
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: to August, well the last part of last two weeks
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: of August. We were in England at Davies's moms and dads,
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: and I Brett has their phone number if he was
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: trying to phone him there, but he wasn't because somebody
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: in the house would have said said something. And in Florida,
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: I never got any any messages that Brett was trying
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: to phone us, but he seems to believe that he
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: was trying to phone us. But also bretton Day had
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: wrestled each other numerous times in Calgary and they weren't
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: really of that that mindset that you need to go
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: through a match step by match, move by move. Like uh.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: I don't even like like talking about it because to me,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: it's exposing the wrestling business. But it has been brought
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: up that Ricky Steamboat and Randy Savage had their match
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: and it was a phenomenal match at WrestleMania three, and
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: they had it, you know, move by move by move. Well,
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: I remember when I heard that, I was like, what
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: they did that? I like, I I never heard of anything.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: I never heard heard of that, right, But that's how
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: they did it, well, Davey and Bratt. They didn't need
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: to do that because that's not how they and maybe
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: that's how it's done now. But Harry, when he goes
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: to do a match, he doesn't. He might say a
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: few things called you know, they might have some ideas,
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: but this the the way that I was brought up
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: in wrestling and my family is matches are are pretty
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: much improvised. They're not there may be a winner determined beforehand,
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: but the matches and you can get some ideas of, oh, I,
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: you know, I'd like to do this, I saw it
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: or I had this idea and I kind of or
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: do remember when we saw so and so do that? I,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: you know, but so so Bratt apparently wanted to go
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: go over things and maybe over the phone is in
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: his head. That's different than you know, mapping it out
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: move by move. But in any case, there were no
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: phone calls. We had an answering machine, and I was
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: I'm a worrier and I'm pretty accountable. If Brett was
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: phoning Davy and there was a message left on our machine,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: or even if we're just sitting at home and back
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: then the phone rings, like, we're not going to just
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: sit there and say, oh, that must be Brett. Let's
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: not answer the phone. And I would have answered the phone.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Davey was in bed and he wasn't even the doctor
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: said you can't do any exercising. This is leading up
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: to how when you were talking about how great that
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: match was. He said, you can't. You can't do anything
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: that's going to feed the infection. So if you start
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: doing cardio, that's going to draw blood and the it's
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: going to feed on the infection. So don't take hot bath,
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: don't you know. Basically he didn't do anything. He just
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: he just was at home. He would go in the pool,
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: which was kind of cooler water. We didn't it wasn't
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: like even though it was summertime, it wasn't like super warm.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: It was just that was kind of a relief for
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: him to sit in the pool and he could do stuff,
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: you know, basically sitting but and then he wanted to
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: go and see his mom. He was really close with
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: his mom, and so we all flew over to England
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: and about two weeks leading into WrestleMania, and and he
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: stayed on the antibiotics and got so when he when
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: he went out to do that match, he basically hadn't
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: on anything since July twenty first, when he had the
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: match with Mike Sharper July twentieth, and so that that
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: was a good well over a month, maybe six weeks,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: maybe not quite six weeks, but but I do get
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: I talked to Sean Mooney about it a little bit
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: because there was some so okay day. That match was
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: August end of August, I think August twenty sixth nineteen
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: ninety two. Davey died in May of two thousand and two,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: So there's a span plus Davy and Bratt saw each
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: other on a pretty regular basis, I.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: Would say, a very regular basis considering the Heart Foundation,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, you.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: Know, especially when the Heart Foundation started and you know,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: really in the thick of things in ninety seven, but
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: ninety six and ninety four, when Davey went back for
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: the Summer Slam in Chicago at the United Center, and
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: I never heard anybody ever say anything except absolute praise
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: about that match.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: The only person I've ever heard give it say something
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: that is not deserved is, unfortunately, is Brett. It's like, okay, Brett,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: if you think that Davy was not in the right
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: his right frame of mind, which is nonsense, There's stronger
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: words I can say than that.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Now are the things that Davy did in that match,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: like he even you could see him. I mean the dive,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: the you know, he attempted headbut off the top rope,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: which is obviously a nod to Dynamite Kid. And then
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: the catches CATCHCN stuff that he did for England because
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: obviously England is very known for their catch catchcan wrestling,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: and a guy of that size doing some of the
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: flips he was doing with the catch and catchcan stuff,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: I was like, holy shit, why have I never seen this?
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: This is absolutely amazing because he's a huge dude, and
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: so the fact that he was doing those flips obviously
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: showed that he was able to do that before. So
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: for him, it was just muscle memory and obviously to
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: show off to the English fans as well, because you know,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: I imagine there wasn't a lot of other guys on
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: that car that were doing that kind of stuff. Especially
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: in the ww F in the early nineties, there was
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: very little guys doing any British style stuff.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had it all. Yeah, he had it all
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: and that you know, on that match, there was a
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: lot of you know, some people didn't feel that the
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Intercontinental match ever should be the last match.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: At that time in England, Like there was no other
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: way that who were you gonna put on top like
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: nobody else unless Bulldog was going to go for the
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: actual WF championship, then it would have made more sense
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: for the Icy Belt to be on the line for
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: that like that.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: It.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, anybody who thinks that they should not have headlined
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: that they need to get their head examples because there's
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: no way that makes any sense otherwise. Yeah. Well, I'm
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: curious because like, you're not a performer, you were obviously
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: raised in a wrestling family. What was that whole like,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: what was that experience like for you, because, like you said,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: you guys did the interviews before, which again you weren't
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: normally on camera anyway, but then you were there and
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: then you were, you know, in front of eighty thousand people, Like,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: what was that just experience like for you? Because I
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: don't think we've really heard from your side of it obviously,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Like you said, Brett is putting the narrative out there
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: that he didn't talk to the Davy. He thinks they
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: had a bad match, even though the greatest matches, you
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: know it from Davy's side, what is it? What was
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: it experience like from your side? Being you know, they
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: put a lot of emphasis on you during the match
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: with you watching the match and you said you had
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: no idea who's gonna win anyway, but then you know
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: you're going in the ring afterwards, and you know the reunion,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: which was obviously so beautiful. What was that entire thing
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: like for you?
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, it was pretty terrifying. Actually, Shane McMahon was the
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: one who got me out of the Royal box seat,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: which was funny because the guard didn't want us in there.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: It's like this is for the Royal family only.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: And I know, I don't know if it was Martin
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: Goldsmith who said no, you're they his family is sitting
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: in there. But but and then the walk down when
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: Shane got me was just it seemed like it took
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: it took a long time and just such a huge arena.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: And then I sat in the front row and Sean
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Moody he interviewed me and he asked me some questions
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: about going to war, and I just was like, oh, so, anyway,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: I was really nervous. I I really was. And then
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: I watched the match, and all the time I'm worrying
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: about Davy's leg. And then when I see him, bang
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: is his his knee? It was his left knee, and
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: it would be like, oh God, I hope he's okay.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: I hope he's okay. And I I just from what
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: I grew up seeing and wrestling, I knew that people
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: can get hurt and it can be permanent. I mean
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: not not all the time, because that's but I just
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: I just believe wrestling so much and with my family,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: so when I'm watching it, I'm like, I really I
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: was watching it as as it's a totally involved fan,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: you know. I but I really was really concerned about
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Davy's knee and and all the pressure that Davey was
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: on because he you know, this was a chance I'll
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: of a lifetime to wrestle at Wembley Stadium, and that
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: match against against Bratt, the main event in front of
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: his basically his hometown, but I mean it was all
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: of England.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, heel going into that match was a wild yeah.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: And so again, you know, for for anybody to say
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: that Davy was not in his right frame of mind,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: it's like, are you kidding me? That that was so
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: important to Davey. He had his mom and dad watching that,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: Like there is no way ever that he would have
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: sacrificed one smidge of that match for for the sake
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: of something stupid, and he didn't, you know. And and
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: they were doing the drug testing back then, strict strict
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: drug testing.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Even I think it was during the steroid era. Yeah.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: And if if anybody wants to say, oh, well, well
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Davey was, you know, he got around it. It's like
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: are you again? Like what? Yeah, Like you know, we're
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: you're just making up. You're moving the goalposts to fit
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: your story. So ah. And then at the end, I
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: remember walking back like when I got in the mat
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: in the ring with Davy, I was like, are you okay?
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: I wanted to know if he was okay? And and
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: I felt bad that Brett lost too. It's like, you know,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: I did I mean, it's like whatever, Like Mick Foley says,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: wrestling's only only fake to the rest, to the fans,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: to the wrestlers. It's real, but you know, it's it's
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: different like when Jim and and Bratt won the tag
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: belts from Davy and Dynamite, and we're living in Florida
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: and I'm now seeing Jim come home because we're living
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: like just down the street from Ellie and Jim. Jim's
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: got the belt, the tag Team Championship belt in his Halliburton,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: but you know, two weeks before that it was in
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: Davy's case. It's kind of like, oh, that used to
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: be kind of was like our belt, but now it's
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: it's it's the hard foundation, you know, it's it's it's funny,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: but it does sting a little bit. So yeah, that
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: that was just And so we went back to the
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: dressing room and Vince McMahon was in the dressing room.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: There was there were very few people left wrestling wise,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: but Vince gave Davy and me big hug. He gave
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: Davy a really big hug and thanked him and and
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: praised him. And again, if there was any question about
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: it's like maybe would it be would be brought up,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: you know, but there they there wasn't And and all
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: those years after, like I never heard anybody the only
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: person that ever came from. I don't know why if
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: Brett thought this was true, why he never brought it
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: up Davy while Davy was alive. It's a really really
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: important question. Why wouldn't you bring that if you think
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: but you're going to bring it up because it's a
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: shitty thing to do to do that to Davy because
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: he worked so hard for that, and and and then
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: two to taint something that that I was vested in
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: my family. My father it was his favorite match that
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: I mean televised and there's and that then that's an
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: interesting term when you my dad would say that was
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: my favorite televised match. Because you might see something in
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: the in you know, at a as a small spot
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: show or something, and then it's just phenomenal. It's not
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: recorded you wish it was. But this this was caught
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: on film, but it was everything about it, the circumstances
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: this it sold out in eleven hours, whoa and it
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: broke at that time? Who had the records for selling
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: out Wembley the fastest was Michael Jackson and Madonna. I
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: think Michael Jackson was always ahead of Madonna there, but
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: so many people were trying to order tickets over the
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: phone that the British Telecom that was the phone system.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: It actually went down because there were so many people
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: trying to buy tickets for that and that that's just
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: that's just like a part of it. And then the
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: Goldsmiths that were the promoters of that, they also were
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: headed marketing and the merchandise and they they had this
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: thing it's called print what it's called now is print
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: on demand, but they were actually printing. They sold out
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: of all of the merchandise that they brought over for
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: that show, and which is unheard of, that never happens.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: And so they were printing on demand t shirts. So
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: that's why it broke this The merchandise sales record stood
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: for many many years because the other pay per views
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: didn't have that print on demand set up that the
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: Goldsmiths brought brought physically brought to Wembley Stadium, like they
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: didn't have that at at you know whatever Canadian Stampede
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: pay per view in nineteen ninety seven, like.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: I want to ask, Yeah, oh, that was just just.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: Amazing, and to see it. Who would have thought you'd
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: go back a few years. Who would have thought that. Look,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: if you're in the dressing room in nineteen eighty seven, no, no,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: let's go a little eight well in the eighties Stampede Wrestling,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: and you say to Brian Pillman, like, if you could
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: have got us all in the you know, because Davy
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: and our own and Brian Pillman were in a different
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: era than than when Brett and Dynamite were. But Davy
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: was a Davy and Dynamite actually did go back and
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: work for my dad, and Brett was always with w
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: W after that point. So, but if you took Brian
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: Pillman and Owen and Davy and Jim Knightheart and Brett
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: Hart and you said to them in the dressing room, Stampecho,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: you know, one day you guys are going to be
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: in that big building that you know, that big saddled home.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: You guys are going to do a pay per view,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: you know a lot and all this pay per view
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: it's the thing, you know that, and we're going to
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be televised. Well, actually, they wouldn't have pay
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: per view because they had already had had WrestleMania, But
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: anyway to say, we're going to do a pay per
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: view at the Saddle Dome and you guys are going
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: to be the main event, and your family's going to
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: be there, and the premiere of Alberta Ralph Klein's going
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: to be there. And then at the end, everybody in
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: your family's your mom and dad, everyone's going to get
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: in the ring at the end, and everyone's gonna I'm
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: gonna love it, like I just it was so like
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: it brought tears to my eyes at the end. I mean,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: it was a good ending.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, but that's the thing I didn't realize because
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: again I watched it again last night and I forgot
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: that that's where the real image of Steve Austin being
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: hauled off in handcuffs, that was where it's from, because
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: you know, he came back and they arrested in there,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: and then you know Bruce gets dumped over the guardrail
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: and you know everybody else. So but you had come
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: you came out because the way everybody came out was
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: so perfect. It was you know, Pilman came out first,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: and then Jim came out, and then Davy came out.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: And then oh and then Brett, you came out with Davy.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: What was that crowd like, because I've heard that is
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: the loudest crowd because back in the day that used
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: to call it the road Warrior Pop. But from everything
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: I have ever heard, that is the loudest crowd anyway
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: I've ever been in front of her.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they said that it was. I don't know how
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: they they determined that, but they said it was the
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: loudest audience that they had ever experienced or you know,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: had captured. And honestly, it was. It was deafening, beautifully deafening,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: and even louder at the end of the night. But
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: when we were going down, so I was missus Calgary. Yeah,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: legitimately was missus Calgary.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: I was wondering that when did you win miss Calgary?
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: It was I think May or May of that and
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: there was a contest and and uh, it was a
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: Sunday night, and I believe the Sunday night was actually
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: the same night as a pay per view WWE pay
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: per view, So Davy wasn't there, and none of my
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: brothers but my mom and dad were there. And anyway,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: it was you know, it was a legitimate contact contest.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't like I, you know, someone made it.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: You know I made it up, but and you know
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: that it's just so I I inquired. So so when
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: my nephew died in ninety six, I was managing Owen
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: and Davy and uh, there was a pay per view
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: in Vancouver the day after Owen or the day after
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: Matthew died, and I was supposed to be a part
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: of it, Invader. I think Kurt Nig, Kurt Hennig was
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: interviewing us, but I was kind of upset still because
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: matt had just died, and they they said, maybe you know,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: you can do the interviews, but maybe don't go out
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: because the fans at that time we were bad guys. Fans.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: The fans could be quite quite explicit in their comments.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: And you're right at ringside and I think, I don't know,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: it might have been Vince McMahon, or it could have
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: been Davy also saying, I don't know if Diana should
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: go out tonight because if the fans say, you know,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: some of the stuff they'd say to me was, you know,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: it's pretty explicit.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: Yah. They were really loaned on that.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: Ye. Wow. Sometimes I am you can see me on film,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: but I'm like right, like wow, I never heard that
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: one before in my whole life. I never heard that
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: one before. Some of the stuff, the things they would say,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: but so I I kind of was phased out at
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: that point. And then so when I won Missus Calgary,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: I said, could I be? Could I do if you
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: guys are doing anything and that you know that I
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: could fit into for the Calgary show during Stampede week,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: could you ask if I could be a part of it?
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: So they let me walk Davy down to the ring
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: and then I sat at ringside, and I mean I
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: didn't have a monumental part, but to be part of
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: that entrance when they were being being introduced, I couldn't
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: have asked for anything more phenomenal except the end of
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: it that if it was possible to top the intro,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: honestly it was. It was just it was such a
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: great time and we were just I wish it, wish
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: it never went the way it did, but yeah, but
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: it Yeah.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: I had to look at the date because I forgot
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: that it was earlier in ninety seven, because I was like,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: wait a minute. Hilman passes pretty quickly after this, like yeah,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: October and then obviously we all know what happened in
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: November ninety seven, and I was like, wow, that was
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: again like you said, Plus like the other people on
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: the other side of that was done Cole Steve Austin,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: who was a year or so after the kind of ring.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: You have gold Dust, which you know, Dustin Reynolds is
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: a second generation superstar, just like everybody on the w
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: side of the ring. Bus you have the Road Warriors,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: which is one of the greatest tag teams of all time.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: And then you also have Ken Shamrock who was coming
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: up in the world of pro wrestling, but he made
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: such a huge date himself in UFC before that, and
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: obviously Tan Cras as well. Is for people who know
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: that over in Japan. But like, like those ten people
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: in that ring is absolutely crazy, Like you said, if
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: you were to go back in the day, Hey, you
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: guys are all going to be in this absolutely incredible thing. Yeah,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: where the crowd is absolutely rabbit, which I thought some
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: of them were going to start jumping over.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you're you're right. The ten those the five opponents,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: what what a what a an a list?
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and on commentary, you have JR. Who's getting you know,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: getting his feet wet. When it comes to w w E,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: you had you know, Jerry Lawler, and then you have
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: Vincent Man, which Vince didn't stay on commentary much longer
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: after that because the Stormcman thing happened and so, which
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: is actually good because looking back, I was like he
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: over did so much of the commentary is like, oh,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: this match might be over. I'm like, it's a toss.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: What are you doing? It's like it's.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. It's like I find that with commentating now, uh,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: that everything is you know, like it's just like wow,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: like you just said, it's just a hip toss, but
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: everything is is frantic. Everything is is in a whirlwind,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: and the high spots you can't even digest them. It's
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: just one after another after another. I I just I
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: don't really love wrestling at what I see now. I'll
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: go and watch even like a TV match like Davy
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: and Dynamite against two guys that I don't even know,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: you know, to no names. I'll find that more entertaining
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: on you know, YouTube whatever, Maple Leaf wrestling or something.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: I'll find that more entertaining than no like Nobody works
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: a whole. Nobody works a body part. Nobody, nobody, it's
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: just Oh, I just I saw a match the other
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: day and someone had unbelievable. If it's hard to find
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: or Dynamite kids against Tiger Mask, it's usually been it's
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: hard to find it because it's it's I don't know
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: if you if they want you to buy it or
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: pay for it or what. But I remember back you
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: could find it and watch it. But I was trying
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: to watch it, find it to show somebody the other
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: day ended up getting one of Davy and Dynamite and
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: a tag against uh, Tiger Mask and someone else, and
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: it was really good. But somebody had said to me,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: and they were fairly knowledgeable about wrestling. But a cute
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: little girl or boy.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: He is a boy boy.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: He looks like a sweet devoted friend.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: He is the yapper that you heard on the phone
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: the other day.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, he can join in, He's welcome if he might be.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: Met at at some point.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well they this person was talking about this match.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: It was a tour from North America that was brought
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: over to United Sates over to Japan, and they had
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: these and and they actually they had these two guys
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: on the match and the billing for it or was
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: that this was better than Dynamite and Tiger Mask just
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: put them and I watched the match and it was
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: some of the worst wrestling there. Yeah, they did about
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: probably one hundred and nine the high spots. And it's like, so,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: if you're gonna do a twist and all this stuff
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: and then you're not even gonna land on the guy,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: isn't that gonna hurt you doing all these twists and
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: the pike and all this.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: It's not good on your knees landing like that, And then.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: Why why would you even do that? But it's like, oh,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: you know, you're missing the point. It's this great, great
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: set of you know, a series of high spots all
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: in one high spot, and I'm like, nobody, you're missing
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: the point. Why are they doing that? What? What's what's
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: the point. The guy isn't even going to be there
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: when he lands anyway, Like they're like, you know, the
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: psychology was It's like, no, the psychology is stupid. It's
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: just it's so but and this this is what becomes
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: like you know, like the it's like so on another
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: So I saw this phenomenal match. I think it's on
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: my official Dianaheart dot com website, and I'm not saying
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: that to plug my website.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: Plug it all the way please.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: I think I put it on there as a match
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: to see. It was Hero Hassei against the second Tiger Mask,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: who doesn't have his mask on anymore. So I think
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: his name is Diana. No, no, that's the original Tiger mask.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: It'sh oh, shoot, I can't remember it.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: Let me look. Keep talking, I will figure this out, and.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: It it's and he always wrestles in green and white,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: the the second Tiger mask green and white h Trump
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: monksert green and white tights. And then Hero Hasse.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: Is outer space or called outer space mask tattoo okuku. No,
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: that's all right, keep going figure this out.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, hopefully you can find it because it's it's
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: to me, it was like it was just such a
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: fine match they worked. He worked Massawa Masawa, Masawa against Hasse.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: I think Hasse is spelled h a s I or
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: e Hiroshi Hasti and Hasse he's missing his two front teeth. Anyway,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: he ended up becoming part of the Japanese Senate, and
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: he's a pretty smart guy. And I knew him in
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: Calgary as part of the Vietcong Express, so he always
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: wore a mask, and he had these really great matches.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: I believe he went. They had Owen and and do
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: for sure they did sixty minute matches, but I thought
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: they did a ninety minute and they ended up do
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: you know, going to like seventy two minutes in that,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: But they they had like two weeks in a row
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: of where they they both went to the time limit
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: of sixty minutes, so they extended it to ninety and
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: then they someone won in the like seventy minute mark
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: or something, but he had a mask. But this Mazala
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: against Hasse and they just he just kept working Hassi's
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: arm and it's almost like my arm was feeling sore
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: while I'm watching the match. It's it's how and they
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: just and the fans were really into it. They're they're
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: they're appreciating every moment. They're just soaking it all in,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: and I just it's like, I don't know if people
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: are nowadays getting into wrestling or capable of having a
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: match like that. It had plenty of of spectacular moments
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: in it, but it didn't necessarily involve chairs or ah,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: like really crazy eye spots. I liked hye spots. I mean,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: Davey and Dynamite were kind of influential in bringing that
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: to the forefront with that because they they had the
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: catch wrestling, and they had the acrobatics, and then they
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: had the stampede wrestling.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: Were they long style kind of yeah.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: And the endurance and then they and then they put
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: these this quick stuff, which I feel was part of
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: the United Kingdom scene. But there was also some guys
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: that went from uh England to Mexico, and then there
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: was like Japanese that were in Mexico and it kind
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: of brought came into England and then came to stampede wrestling.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: But really the first place I really saw that quick
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: quick stuff was with Dynamite, and then when I saw
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: Davy doing it, and then Robbie Stewart Chick Colin Steve
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: Wright had had some of that. Steve was was was
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: quite technical, but then Johnny Smith he also had it.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: And then Johnny became a heavyweight and was still able
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: to fly around as if you ever can see any
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: of his stuff in Japan, either on his own or
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: with Dynamite, just it's just really impressive stuff. But so
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: I'm not I like high spots for sure, but I
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: just I just I was just I feel like the
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: high spots that I like are the ones that should
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: actually matter.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: Right, that makes sense, not just high spots.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so you got you know, it's like everybody
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: in the ring now is having their own match and
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: they've got to get their high spots in, and this
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: guy's got to get his in, and hey, even better,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: let's have a four way where you know, each person's
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: his own we got you know, you can tag anybody
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: in at any time, and you know, yeah, that's a
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: great way I can get all my high spots in.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: And well, what happened to like telling a story? The
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: art of telling a story and that that's part of
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: where you know, like well a lot of guys, but
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: but Brad is so famous for telling stories in the ring,
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: like you know that, you know do uh? And I
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: I really appreciate that. I just wish there there was
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: there was more of it. You know, It's it sounds
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: like I'm I'm you know, discounting you know, the great
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: things that are happening and wrestling in uh, you know,
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. But I just I really wish that
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: they would get back. It's a basics. It's kind of
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: like these these movies were yeah, like okay, I like,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: you know, like John Wick movies, like, but you know
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: they are there. It's like, but.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: It's just like so fast, so fast, yees.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: So fast, and then and then it's like what's what's real?
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: What's cgi? And what's real and what's and then it's
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: just and now then I'm like, I'm gonna just watch
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: something from the nineteen seventies and all that. Well.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: I do think it's also like the the evolution of
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: you know, because we have these things in our pockets
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: and our hands almost all the time that keep and
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: distract us from doing everything else that we probably want
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: to do. But like everyone's attention span has gotten so
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: much shorter that these long matches sometimes that a lot
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: of times they can't, you know, the fans can't keep up,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: which I think aw has done a great job. When
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: it does come to hell, they'll have sixty minute draws
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: where you go sixty minutes the entire time and you
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: don't get a winner. And so I think, and then
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: you got so many people that do appreciate that, but
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: you know you, like you were talking about dynamite doing
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: this other things so fast. He is definitely one of
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: those people that people point to him like that's the
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: evolution of kind of where we are now, because he
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: was hitting so hard, he was doing the you know,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: the submission wrestling, he was doing the high flying stuff,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: and he was really elevating it faster than what you
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: would see you know, maybe in a Hogan match or
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: you know, some of the Brett matches you would see
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: later Brett would kind of introduce a lot of that too,
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: Like there's no real reason why Brett Hart needs to
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: been doing his suicide dive, but he does. He did, yeah,
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, picking those things up and you know,
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: evolving with you know, the sport as well. I mean, hell,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: look at what Owen was. Dud Olden was bringing Luca
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: Doorstop into American wrestling. That people are like, I've never
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: seen this before, and that guy's giving it to because
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: he learned it, like you're saying, they would pick it
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: up over in Canada and Calgary, and obviously at the
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: times that he would go over to Japan as well,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: he would pick up a lot of that stuff over there.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: So any of that like he was really kind of
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: bringing that to American forefront as well. But I think,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: you know, I think that there are a lot of
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: there's so many great, fantastic stories still being sold without
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: a doubt. Again, you've got to go sometimes search him
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: out or you know, whatever it is. And not every
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: match is going to be a fantastic you know, barn
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: Burner five star match or whatever. But I do think
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: that there are stories being told, and I think the
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: evolution of wrestling where you know, we've hit the kind
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: of peak of you know, boom boom, boom, boom boom,
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: high spot, high spot, high spot, no story, no rest hold,
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: no whatever doing, but we are still there's still so
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: many great wrestlers out there that we want to tell
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: this fantastic story, whether it be twenty minutes, forty five minutes,
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: an hour, whatever it is, but they're really putting, you know,
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: the effort into it. And again, like you know, like
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: when you were growing up, women's wrestling is not anyone
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: close to what it is now, and so a lot
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: of times we're doing so many great women's wrestling now
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: then before we're like, you know, you don't hear a
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: lot of people coming out of unfortunately stanfy wrestling back
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: in the day that we're women, because back then that's
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: just that's happening. But I think if he was continuing
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: it ten fifteen years later, we probably would have seen
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: so many absolutely amazing you know women come out of
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: the stand area as well.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: There was back in it was eighty two. I think
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: it was eighty two, pretty sure it was eighty two.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: Wendy Richter come up to Calgary to work for my dad,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: and so she uh and she hit it off really
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: well with with everyone, and so my as it went
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: in the uh with she ended up that there was
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: a guy that he's actually Steve Wright's ah brother, Bernie Bernie. Right,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: So Steve Wright was just like really a great pretty
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: famous more more in Europe. But he didn't anyway, his
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: brother Bernie came over and and so John Foley was
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: the the manager, the head manager at that time for
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: all the bad guys. Yeah, and he so so athel Well,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: Bernie came on the scene and he's he's Athol Foley.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: So of course the fans are shouting that's how I said,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: you know, athl So and he he was he wasn't
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: that that big. He actually wasn't. I mean, there were
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: bigger guys in Calgary, so he just seemed like he
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: was kind of small. So uh he he he became
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: a caricature of uh say, he shaved. They had his
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: head shaved like mister t uh. That was Bruce's idea.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: And he had like this thick black like black curly hair,
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: but it was like quite a prominent uh mister t cut.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: And then he had a oh anyway, and then he died.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: It everything was was black. And then he had these
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: like wooly trunks that he hated where but it almost
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: looked like he had a diaper on, but it looked
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: but that was Bruce's instruction for him to wear that.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: These wooly tights that I'm sure were itchy. There were
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: a sheepskin with the wool on the inside. And so
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: he ended up in a storyline against Wendy Richter and
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: I'm you know, because it was the only way to
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: do it was for Wendy to win. I mean, in
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: this day and age, it's some guy. Some people would
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: think it would be just great for the guy to
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: go in there and beat the hell out of the
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: girl and then act like he's a girl. But he's not,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: and so I'm just I'm not trying to be controversial.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, dinner wrestling is very polarizing, so I
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: can understand.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So so he wrestles Wendy, you know, like she
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: she fought him. She never really changed her style. She
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: was just pretty. So she was the one that Cyndi
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: Lauper used to if you want to watch that on.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: It was the early WrestleMania one and two, and she
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: did a lot for women's wrestling and was inducted in
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: the same Hall of Fame year as my dad was,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: in twenty ten. And it was nice that she and
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: my dad are in the same class because my dad
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: really really loved Wendy and I appreciated her athleticism and
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: she was a pretty girl and strong and you know,
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: loved wrestling. So it was pretty good though that they
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: had this. It went I think they did three or
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: four matches, but she wrestled Athel Foley and she beat him,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: and it was she beat him like farre and square,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: and then Ethel ran over and was like being like
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: the crybaby, you know, ran over to his dad, John Foley,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: and and you know, but that was just pretty pretty cool.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: To see that for women's wrestling back in eighty two,
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: and I was certainly inspired by Wendy and I wished
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: I could have wrestled. I know that wasn't you were
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: just saying how the women's wrestling has just come so far.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: I just I wish I could have been a part
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: of it, but it just wasn't my time in eighty two.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: Really the only one that I I saw, as I
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: never really even heard of a lot of them. There
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: was Betty Nikolay in the seventies that worked for my dad,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: and she was pretty tough. But they just seemed to
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: have a certain look about them, like almost like old
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: fact and all the the hairstyles, but it was all
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: part of that era too. I mean they didn't really
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: have long hair, and they weren't that glamorized Wendy. Wendy
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: really did turn a lot of hands. She was quite pretty,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: and but I I did want to. I was interested
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: in doing it, and my brother Smith was kind of
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: encouraging it, and my mom just but but I liked it,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: you know. I liked amateur wrestling too, and again that
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: wasn't something that was really offered in schools for for girls.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: But which is where I would have learned it it
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: is now and then you know, it's and my niece Naddy,
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: Jim Nineheart's daughter, my Sustralli's and Jims.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: She's literally the greatest wrestler that has ever existed for
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: women or men in general. She is just and what
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: she's doing for the next generation and women and men
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: as well is absolutely, you know, definitely credible. And I
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: am loving this legend like low key legend gimmick that
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: she's doing. She started it obviously in the Independence and
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: then with the Blood Sport and then she's actually finally
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: doing the w ME. I'm like, thank you, because it
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: is just what she is. She's just a tough woman
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: that has been around for twenty years maybe at point,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: like and she Yeah, she's doing fantastic things with the school. Obviously,
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: TJ is doing fantastic things behind the scenes, which unfortunately
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: his career got cut short. But again, what he's doing
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: now behind the scenes is phenomenal.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Natty's very has been underutilized, but I think
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: that will change. She she did the Japanese training and
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: Tokyo Joe who did the trip with Harry and TJ.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: There were a couple other guys in that Tokyo Joe
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: he wouldn't he wouldn't train you unless he liked you.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: It was he he saw something in Natty. I mean,
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: she had been doing some stuff with with them for
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: Stampede Wrestling for Bruce and Ross. But the stuff that
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: training that she got with Joe was making her Japan ready.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: And she did go over to Japan and unfortunately blew
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: her knee out there on that first tour, which was
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: too bad and she had to get surgery. And you know,
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: but she's just never quit really never quit. She's she's
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: a driven yeah girl, she's she's driven. A she it
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter what it is. I mean, she she was
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: doing modeling before she got into wrestling, and they said,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: you're you know, well, you're not tall enough, you're not
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: tall enough, You're not this, you're not that. She never
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: she she just kept at it. She she just you know,
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: and then she she got involved with the Matt Rats.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: That was this kid's wrestling promotion. You might be able
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: to find something on on YouTube. Was my nephew Ted,
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: who kind of who who started it?
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: That's right, That's why I heard that name before.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: And she was and then she started to hang out
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: more with Harry and TJ. Because before that she was
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: she was not really on the well, she was just
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: focusing on modeling and acting and she would do whatever.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: You know, she would work and save all of her
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: tip money to get pay for more courses because she
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: was going to do acting or screenwriting or what like.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: She was just she was really driven and and I
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: don't think she had I mean, she didn't have a
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: car at like, you know, she take buses in the
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: wintertime and you know, do go above and beyond to
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: get to some class on a Saturday morning and then
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: do a shift at work. I know, she worked so hard.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: She was you know, doing uh waitressing at uh it
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: was Montana's was a nice restaurant. But she started out
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: you know at the you know, just she's just always
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: trying to improve herself and that that job at Montana's
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: was it was. She was like a really professional, always
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: happy and smile on her face, but it was hard
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: work and she was on her feet all day. And
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: waitressing isn't isn't a glamorous job, but you wouldn't know
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: that from Natty or you know, she's just come out
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: with you know, like all these trades of and and
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: just she worked really hard. So and then so she
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: did she started hanging out with TJ and and Harry
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: and and there were I think she she kind of
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: got a little bit interested, like this, this actually might
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: be fun and I could And then she she started
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: and she always knew about how to present herself and
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: how to be uh personable, and and then just kept
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: kept on and Tokyo Joe started to I don't know
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: who asked who. If she she probably would have had
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: to have asked, Joe, could I train with TJ and Harry,
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: Which if it had been anybody else with anything less
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: to offer, he would have said no. He just he
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: just didn't have time for it. Wasn't being mean or anything.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: He just it's like no, I And that's why he
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: only had a very small group of guys that that
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: he trained. And you know, there were a lot of
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: guys from Japan that came over to Calgary that he trained.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think I'm just terrible with my names today,
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: but uh, I thought was one of them, but Tan
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: Rue was one and they come over to to Calgary
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: and uh, he's like he's really he's really famous, but
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: he just he just went. They the Japanese promotions would
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: send guys from Japan to Calgary to spend time with Joe,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: like could be six weeks or six months to get
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: them ready, and then they go back to Japan and
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: then you know they're kind of there, you know, go on,
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: they go on and become part of wrestling history. But
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: if anybody was trained by Tokyo Joe, you almost you
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: can pretty much be sure that they're they paid their
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: dues and are pretty pretty accomplished in the ring. But
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: so so it's a tribute to Naddy. And so she
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: learned all this stuff from from Tokyo Joe and then
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: she started doing amateur wrestling classes with Harry at and
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: I believe TJ was part of that too, with the
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: Clive Llewellen guy in Calgary that also trained the Canadians
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: for the Canadian Olympic wrestling team, and Clive's daughter also
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: was part of that and she I don't know if
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: she went to the Olympics or not, but Natty was
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: training there and and then it was always your dream too,
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: So she did stuff with Stampede. It was wow, world
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: of wrestling, and then she did more more, I think
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: she did an England to her and she might have
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: gone over to Germany. But she was going everywhere, you know,
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: the doing whatever she could. And I managed her a
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: little bit. I just walk her to the ring, but
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: because I was trying to get you know, I'm like,
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: I missed the boat, but you know, maybe maybe I
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: can do something with Natty. So I'd walk her to
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: the ring from time to time and you know, rubb
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: her shoulders or something. But I basically, you know, the
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: non not important in her upward trajectory. And then she
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: she got to w W E and you know, she
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: went through so many phases with them, with you know,
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: going with red hair, and I don't know what they
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, she looked pretty with red hair, but I'm
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: just not sure what they were thinking, thinking sometimes why
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: they didn't just let her be Natty. Then that happened
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: with Owen, and it happened with Davy, and it almost
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: happened with Bratt. Brat just wanted to be Bratt. And
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: then it was like, no, we're gonna We're gonna have
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: your ride down to the ring on a horse. And
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: he was like trying to get behind it in his
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: head it's like okay, you know, but and then Owen
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: they just they just didn't want him to be Owen Hart.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: It was, you know, we're gonna you're gonna be the
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: Blue Blazer, which he was for a while, and and
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: then he got hurt. I think he blew his knee out.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: I could never find it on on TV, but there
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: was one match she did. It was so he's on
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: the turnbuckle. I thought it was with Bam Bam Bigelow,
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: But anyway, he was on the top turnbuckle and he
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: went to jump down or he was facing out though,
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: like facing the crowd, and then he was gonna like
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: fling his legs out or or jump down.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: He did that drop down kind of with the legs
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: on the rope and then bounce back. Yeah.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: And well this was right in the turnbuckle, and he
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: blew his knee out when he landed, and he had
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: to and then he had another that was as a
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: Blue Blazer, and then he had another really bad injury
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: as a Blue Blazer. So he actually took time off
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: and and he was almost not going to continue on
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: and wrestling. He was going to become a teacher, and uh,
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: thank well for all the fans who grew to know
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: and love oh and thank thank god he didn't because
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: we would never have seen him past the original Blue Blazer.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: But anyway, that was just oh so so with Naddy though,
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: you know, they just they had so many times to
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: to you know, she I hope she gets you know.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: I just feel like she's never she was, She's done
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: so much so to say, you know, she hasn't. I
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: just if they gave her the attention that they've given
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: some of their other top stars. Wow, she she could, sure,
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: I mean she's a bright, shining star, she always has been.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: But I would love to. I feel like that with
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: with Harry too, he just never really got got that,
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: you know. And they can do pretty much any style.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, Naddy's super strong. She she can she does gymnastics,
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: not saying that she needs to be doing flips off
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: the top rope, but she could do whatever they wanted
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: her to do. Even after twenty over twenty years in
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: their ring. She could still she could, you know. But
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: but why why not let her really like shine as
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: a shoot fighter?
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: And Harry too, Yeah, because you can still see Harry online.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: He trains all the time and all seems to be
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: all over the world training and he is very proficient
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: in multiple martial arts. And I actually love it when
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: he does blood sport. I imagine you may not because
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: of how real it is, but you know, he's he
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: absolutely is so fantastic at it. And then you know
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: he's doing great things in MLW. But again, I don't
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: know why New Japan's not picking you back up or
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: even in you know, maybe an aw SWING or WWE
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: or whatever it is. But yeah, I am still so
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: surprised that Harry is not in a bigger spot than
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: he is now.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know what, you know, there's just like, to me,
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: it's just like so much box office if you put
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: and it isn't like, you know, Harry just came out
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: of nowhere. Oh you know, I want him to wrestle
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: brock Lesnar. But imagine if he if they did a
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: storyline with him in brock Lesner and Natty was involved
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: in that, or Harry and Drew McIntyre, Harry and Randy
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: Ort and Harry and Cody Rhodes. He had a phenomenal
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: match with Matt Riddle. Yeah that was, you know, that
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 2: was But like when he went back to WW in
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, like they could have put him in
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: a storyline with Matt Riddle. Right, they were both there,
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: John Morrison and Harry they had one TV match for WWE.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: I think it was I don't know twenty and ten
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: or something, but it was such a great match. But like,
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: it's just I don't know what I would love to
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: see Harry though. I mean, whether you're on mainstream or not,
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: doesn't isn't the isn't like the be all and all
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: of your success. But I just I just wish that
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: the rest of the like the world on a bigger
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: scale than so far, the world could see what what
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: Natty and and Harry have to offer, like really let
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 2: them shine. And you know, Natty, yes, she has been
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: in ww and done lots of things, but but I
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 2: just feel like she's been held back. She hasn't been
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: allowed to reach her full potential. I mean, I think
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: she gives it at whatever they give her, she gives
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: it one hundred percent. But I just think her potential
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: is still to be realized. And and Harry's as well,
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: and uh, you know Davi's Davey was there as well.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 2: You know he didn't he should have been a world champion. Yeah,
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: there was a politics involved there, and I don't think
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: the politics the people politicking against Davie were the ones
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: we were. I think the ones we thought we needed
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: to be I'm concerned about those were just red herrings.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't think they had any problems with
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: Davy being a champion, a world's champion. But maybe the
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: ones that were the ones you don't suspect whatever they
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: you know, they know, but I uh, I know and
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: also could have been a world you know, they're the
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: people I've read these little things online about you know,
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: why Owen Hart wasn't world champion material. It's like he
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: he was, He could have been. He could have carried it.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: It just never happened. Davy was, He could have been,
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: He could have carried it. It just never happened. But
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: but that's that's that's yeah. I think he agrees.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he was very he was very into the
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: match last place.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: So he was, Oh, if you can find that Mazala
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: against Hero Hasse, I think it's on my website too,
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: But oh but when I show you, I've got these
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: so the people that did that SummerSlam ninety two Martin
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: Goldsmith he and his affiliates have a bunch of things
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: going on, but one of them is called Wrestle Merch
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: Central and United Kingdom. So they made these shirts.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: Whoa, that's cool.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: So that that was me holding the belt when Davy
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: wrestled Tron for the World's Belt in ye ninety six,
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: I think it was in uh South Carolina.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: Oh was that the one where the power went out?
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, yes, and then we had to do it
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: again the next night. Yeah yeah, what what a what
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 2: a bomber?
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: That was what a freak of like just the Mother
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: Nature is undefeated, and so they were like, nope, yeah,
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: do it again.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. Davy was like, you know, man, really.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: I bet yeah. He thought the Mother Nature was ribbing him.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, playing a little drunk on him. So then and
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: there was then there's this one. There's another one, and it's.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: Just drink heart. Let Can people buy these shirts?
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, they're on my website at Official Dianaheart dot com
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 2: www dot Official Dianaheart dot com and you can order
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: them from them shop in England and they'll send them wherever,
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: you know, if it's it's Canada, Germany, wherever, United States.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: This is another one that I I I cut the
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 2: sleeves off it just for my own, uh, and then
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 2: nodded it, tied it in a knot. So I wore
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 2: that at the wrestling convention.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: I love that design. That's fantastic. And and then oh,
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: so you're saying you are you selling these also when
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: you're when you're doing these conventions.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to trying to get some printed in
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: Canada so I can take them to Canadian shows and
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 2: some I'll get them printed in the United States. So
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 2: because they're heavy, well they're not that bad. It's not
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 2: like I'm carrying weights, but it's it's a lot to
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 2: carry back and forth. But we'll see whatever. You know
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: that this is how, this is how they do it.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 2: So and then this this was a shirt. This is
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 2: called This isn't my shirt, but I just they gave
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 2: it to me, the Ring Worn, and it's a if
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: anybody can check them out, I'll just give you the act,
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: the proper exact, because I get things wrong.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, I get it too.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 2: It's okay. It is called the ring Worn just Instagram.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the ring Worn. It's the wrestling curator.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they they they sell. Oh no, they sorry, they
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: don't sell. They they acquire very respectfully wrestling and memorabilia
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: from around the world and then they put it on
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 2: display and go almost like a traveling museum.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: I've heard about this, Yes, so they I see it
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: in the top right on their Instagram that that Jeff
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: Jared was talking about. Yeah. They yeah, like you said,
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: they go on tour and they actually Wow, they got
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: an Owen Hart tights, Sammy's.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got the Blue Blazer mask. They've got the
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 2: original Slammy the very first ever from the very first
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 2: Slammy Awards in eighty seven with Roddy Piper and it
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 2: got smashed and then Roddy tried to put it all
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 2: back together again. Yeah, got that actual trophy from the
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: original Slammy Awards and they acquired that from a museum
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: in Toronto. They go, they and they've got some Brett
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 2: Skier Macho Man's Ultimate Warriors and so what they had
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: at this display in in Indianapolis was just was just
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 2: part of what they've got. But they do everything so respectfully,
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 2: Like they had a pair of Terry Taylor's boots and
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 2: then they show they know all the information about it
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 2: and then it became he became the red rooster, so
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 2: he and they showed me on the stitching where they
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 2: changed the lettering to make it an R from another letter,
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 2: and and they had the oh gosh, they had the
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 2: tights that Rick Rude wore when he was doing a
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 2: storyline with Rick Flair in nineteen ninety three with with Anyway.
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 2: They know all the background stories and they tell you
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 2: about it and it was just so interesting and I
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 2: felt I was just so grateful to them for bringing
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 2: bringing it back to life, because when you see this stuff,
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, it is and I do, and they
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 2: do it so so meticulous. They are so meticulous about it.
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 2: So I just wanted to mention that if if anybody
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 2: ever can see them whenever, if they are at a
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 2: convention or something, it's well worth. And you I imagine
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 2: they change it from convention to convention, right, they don't
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 2: have the same stuff. But like I thought, if Elvis
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 2: Presley wanted somebody to put his his costumes on display
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 2: and tour, that he would pick these guys. So Tim
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 2: Tim is one of them and really really nice guys.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 2: And yeah, so that I've got my website, the Just
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 2: Official dianaheart dot com and it's more of a it's
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 2: not like impulse buying or quick clicks. They're more, you know,
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 2: I guess true to my personality. It's maybe more drawn
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 2: out than some people's websites where you got the you know,
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 2: you know, the up to the minute, uh, the latest
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 2: and the greatest news. Mine's more. I don't know. Hopefully
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 2: there's a place in wrestling or in the world for it,
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 2: because I hope so. And I so appreciate you letting
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 2: me be on your show and talk about things that
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 2: are so important to me or you know, I did
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 2: did appreciate you letting me talk about Davy and his knee,
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 2: his staff infection and how important that match was to him.
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 2: And there's there's absolutely no no way that he was
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 2: on drugs in that match, and there's no way he
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 2: would have done that to his family or his career
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 2: or to me. And there's no way I would have
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 2: allowed it. And I just feel bad that it has
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 2: a bit of a taint, but I that's not like,
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 2: the only reason why I want to do a podcast
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 2: is to go on there and talk about that. But
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 2: I haven't been on that many and I just felt
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 2: like you were a good host to allow me to
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 2: expand on that because Davy's not alive anymore, and it's
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 2: it's important to me and to defend him. And he
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 2: deserves he just a lot better than what he's he's gotten.
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 2: So I just you know, he he and I did
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 2: have have some problems, but at the end of the
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 2: last few months of his time with in life, he
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 2: was such a he had turned everything around and I
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 2: had as well, and we came back to a new beginning,
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 2: and you know, I just I feel somewhat reponsible for
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 2: I feel like it's my part of my responsibility to
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 2: to let the world know what a phenomenal guy Davy was,
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 2: and I I will I'm not really like I'm not
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 2: like the type to get it, you know, be like
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 2: that this colorful cheerleader, but I just I just want
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 2: to tell the world, like, what what a great, what
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 2: what an asset Davey was to to professional wrestling as
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 2: much as as as anybody in that and that from
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 2: the eighties on, you know, the everybody had their part
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 2: dynamite as well, you know, but what they the footprint
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 2: they left it shouldn't be filled with with ah scandal
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 2: or salacious, uh stories that that have no substance and
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 2: and if someone has it feels there is something. Let's
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 2: let's just sit back and reconsider all the all the
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 2: the whole story here, because I can tell you that
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 2: it's there's more to all of it than than what
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 2: anybody might might think. So, you know, I just he
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 2: just deserves deserves I miss him. I miss him so much.
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 2: I feel like he if he was here, what I
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 2: just went. You know, I don't know, John, It's just
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 2: like when the world has gone so crazy, It's just
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 2: like I wish Davey was here. I could say, what
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 2: do you think of that? And I know that he would,
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 2: you know, we'd have a have well hopefully have fun
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 2: with it, because what can you do?
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 1: I I for you.
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was so funny, he was and he had
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 2: a when he got finally got with Owen as a
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 2: tag team, they had a lot of fun. You know,
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 2: he was pretty pretty Uh, they were both they both
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 2: just it just didn't quite happen. You know. They had
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 2: chances to tag in stampede wrestling and uh do stuff
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 2: at other times. But when they did finally get together
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 2: in ninety six as a tag team and into ninety seven.
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 2: It was like a well, they just had the time
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 2: time of their lives there was it was just you know,
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 2: playing the jokes that they did and it was just
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 2: a really good time. But they both of them dropped
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 2: the seriousness that I mean, they still took their careers seriously.
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 2: But Owen was like, what does it matter if we're
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 2: on first or fourth or last? Like, doesn't matter? And
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 2: Davies was saying the same thing. And then they come
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 2: together and they're both like, yeah, what does it matter
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 2: if we're and having that. I don't know, I just
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 2: I sure missed them. I missed all that missed that
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 2: whole time. So you allowed me to talk about that
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  Speaker 2: very uh generously, So thank you. And I got to
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  Speaker 2: meet your dogs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well I want to thank you so much. This
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  Speaker 1: has been an absolute honor. Like I said at the top,
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  Speaker 1: I've been a fan of your family, your you know,
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  Speaker 1: your husband. I'm now a fan of your son. I've
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  Speaker 1: been a fan of your son for quite a while.
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  Speaker 1: Like this has genuinely been an honor for me. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like we could have probably done this for hours
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  Speaker 1: and hours. You know, I will try to make it
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  Speaker 1: some of these conventions that you're going to go to
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  Speaker 1: so that we can actually meet in person, because I
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 1: feel like there was so much that we couldn't we
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  Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to talk about. But I want
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 1: to thank you so much for being so open and
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  Speaker 1: so honest about everything. I didn't know, you know, any
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 1: of that stuff about the before the SummerSlam match with
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 1: Davy and his knee and everything until I heard that interview,
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 1: and I was like, WHOA. So I'm glad that you
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 1: were able to put that to bed for some people
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 1: who actually, you know, had some ideas or whatever. But
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 1: like you said, I loved watching your husband wressel, I
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 1: loved watching your brothers wrestle, I love watching your son wrestles,
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  Speaker 1: and so this has been a genuine honor for me,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to thank you so much.
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  Speaker 2: So much. You're just a fabulous, terrific host. Thank you,
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 2: thank you, thank you well, don't be a stranger.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. To Diana Heart for being on
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  Speaker 1: the show again. She is going to be hitting the
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 1: convention scene and you definitely want to support her. You
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 1: want to support her, her family obviously, what her son
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 1: is doing as well. He's doing absolutely amazing things. And
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 1: I am such a big fan of his. Again, if
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: you want to come on the show, you are more
• 2:09:32
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• 2:09:34
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