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Domonique Foxworth on Lamar Jackson's Power, Bears trade for Jeffery Simmons, Ernie Johnson retires | 10.29 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time presented by PrizePix.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Beaumontie Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
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  Speaker 1: give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are
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  Speaker 1: a hater. It is Foxworth Friday somewhere. Dominique Fosworth, what's
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  Speaker 1: going on?
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  Speaker 2: What's up, man?
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  Speaker 3: I like the set coming together. Is everything working as usual?
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  Speaker 3: One thing, though, you mentioned the big chair. Like, you
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  Speaker 3: going to keep the big chair?
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  Speaker 1: No, we working on it. We working on it. We
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  Speaker 1: working on it. It's doing me a disservice, man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. You
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  Speaker 2: on the internet looking 5'5.
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  Speaker 1: No it's the wildest thing we just hadn't considered that
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  Speaker 1: but it's got me looking a little hunchy you know
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  Speaker 1: what i'm saying and what we can't have is people
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  Speaker 1: thinking i'm five five under any circumstance whatsoever i'm like
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  Speaker 1: no no no no no it ain't gonna be that
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  Speaker 1: man we got a lot going on it's an interesting
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  Speaker 1: um nfl week uh as we are recording or or
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  Speaker 1: not as we're recording but by the time we get
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  Speaker 1: finished there'll be a wmba finals game they're playing that
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  Speaker 1: thing in the In the middle of the afternoon, boy.
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  Speaker 3: Where do you go when you win your championship at 2.30?
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  Speaker 1: Apparently where you go is to the practice courts so
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  Speaker 1: they can start getting the court ready before daddy get home.
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  Speaker 3: You can't even spray champagne too aggressively.
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  Speaker 1: They are throwing a party while parents are at work.
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  Speaker 1: And by the time daddy get home, he's like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't care what y'all did. This shit just need to
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  Speaker 1: be clean. When I walk in like that, that's what
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  Speaker 1: this is about to be.
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  Speaker 3: I try to imagine a reason why this is. And
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  Speaker 3: I guess they've already reported on how the process goes,
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  Speaker 3: but it just seems so like so avoidable.
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  Speaker 1: The process seem unavoidable. And to me, and I think
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  Speaker 1: we talked about this before, but right now I think
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  Speaker 1: people got themselves too locked in or the notion or
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  Speaker 1: idea that of playing in that arena and i know
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  Speaker 1: it rocked in all those other games but there's a
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  Speaker 1: world where i could imagine they play it at night
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  Speaker 1: they play it over there by the airport and that
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  Speaker 1: thing is rocking like cameron indoor stadium right like the
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  Speaker 1: people how bad you gotta want it if there's demand
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  Speaker 1: for 17 000 tickets people that get there on the
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  Speaker 1: 3500 is going to be skewed towards your season ticket
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  Speaker 1: holders right like towards your diehards and it's a it's
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  Speaker 1: a it's a do or die Right. Or it's a
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  Speaker 1: it's a must win game six. There we go. Shout
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  Speaker 1: out to my man Shannon. It's a must win, man.
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  Speaker 1: I bet it would be cracking in there. They say
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  Speaker 1: and by the time this comes out, the game will
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  Speaker 1: have happened. I will say this. I am fascinated by
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  Speaker 1: the idea that that city. that has historically had trouble
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  Speaker 1: selling off playoff games of all stripes, and the ones
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  Speaker 1: that really jump out to people are Braves daytime playoff
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  Speaker 1: games when they were running things, and they could not
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  Speaker 1: sell those games out. They say they have sold out
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  Speaker 1: this 17,000-seat arena for this game. And if 17,000 people
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  Speaker 1: show up, I think folks need to understand how Herculean
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  Speaker 1: it is to pull that off. Because, buddy, I can't
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  Speaker 1: think of anything more annoying than trying to drive to
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  Speaker 1: State Farm Arena for 1230 in the afternoon. If you
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  Speaker 1: know anything about traffic in that city, it's some motherfuckers
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  Speaker 1: that ain't going to get there until halftime. Yeah. Like they,
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  Speaker 1: people need to start leaving really early. in order to
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  Speaker 1: make that happen. The Valkyries are up though, right?
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  Speaker 3: So there's no chance that, yeah, there's no chance that
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  Speaker 3: the home team can close it out. But I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I guess there's no way to avoid, if they sold,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if they did sell out the 17,000, there's
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  Speaker 3: no way to avoid it being, feeling like some type
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  Speaker 3: of slight because they do it in a small place,
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  Speaker 3: it's a slight. If they do it at noon, it's
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  Speaker 3: a slight. It's just, well, there is a way to
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  Speaker 3: do it. It's to plan better on the front end.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but we got a messed up world where people
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  Speaker 1: think it's a slight that you play a game in
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  Speaker 1: your arena Yeah. Like that's where y'all play games. That's
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  Speaker 1: your spot. There should be something like when I went
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  Speaker 1: to school in Carolina, I lived in Durham for 10 years.
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  Speaker 1: There were still people to this day that miss the
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  Speaker 1: good old days of Carmichael.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Like you remember Michael Jordan never played a game
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  Speaker 1: in the Dean Dome. The Dean Dome did not open
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  Speaker 1: until January of 1986.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: There are people that still long for playing those games
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  Speaker 1: in that much smaller arena. There's a thing to it.
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  Speaker 1: The internet got a hold of this, right? And then
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  Speaker 1: it just became, once it got into the outrage machine,
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  Speaker 1: and it turned into all these things. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 1: I thought that removing Caitlin Clark from the equation would
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  Speaker 1: improve the internet discourse, and it has not.
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  Speaker 4: It is.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 1: And again, this is internet discourse. The whole world might
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  Speaker 1: not sound nearly as crazy as the people that I
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  Speaker 1: have seen talking about this and making TikTok videos and
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  Speaker 1: everything else. I just, I'm glad they don't have the
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  Speaker 1: game at 12 o'clock and I hope that everybody enjoys themselves.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no winning in this situation.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, they aren't at the point where I guess
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  Speaker 3: the problem is you would expect like the men's professional
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  Speaker 3: teams would have the clout. to kick out whatever is
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  Speaker 3: happening if you got a championship game. They ain't at
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  Speaker 3: that point with that level of clout, and people expect
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  Speaker 3: them to be there, or they didn't anticipate having this option,
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  Speaker 3: so they're in this situation. But no matter what it is,
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  Speaker 3: you're going to find a way to make it something
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  Speaker 3: that we're upset about, to be frank with you. And
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  Speaker 3: I think you're probably similar in this.
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  Speaker 2: I don't talk much about the WNBA because I don't
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  Speaker 2: watch a lot of WNBA.
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  Speaker 1: I don't watch enough.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Then it comes up and it's like, all right, I
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  Speaker 3: got to have an opinion on this.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds like it sucks. I want them
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  Speaker 2: to win.
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  Speaker 1: They want us to talk about it, but then get
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  Speaker 1: mad when we don't talk about it with the dexterity.
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  Speaker 1: And that's fine. Like, I get it. I realize I'm
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  Speaker 1: not qualified to talk about your basketball. I am qualified
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  Speaker 1: to talk about the other stuff. But you know what?
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  Speaker 1: You want people to talk about the bat. It'll go
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  Speaker 1: take me a long time before I get up. I've
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  Speaker 1: been watching these other games for 40 years. It's going
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  Speaker 1: to take me a long time to get up to
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  Speaker 1: speed and to get there. But I'll say this, man.
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  Speaker 1: If it turns into a game seven, I'm a watch
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  Speaker 1: because that'll be.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Hell yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I watch the significant games of any sport. When stakes
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  Speaker 3: are involved, I will care. I don't think I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to be able to see this 12-30 joint because I'll
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  Speaker 3: be recording my show. You're a member of the workforce. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'll be recording my show at that point. Maybe I'll
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  Speaker 3: give it World Cup treatment. Just put it on the
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  Speaker 3: side screen somewhere and let it rock out while.
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing other things.
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  Speaker 2: NCAA tournament. Oh, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my bad. For the white folks, like the Masters.
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  Speaker 3: I definitely don't cut the Masters on.
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  Speaker 2: I don't cut the Masters on until Sunday. Oh, man.
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  Speaker 1: But, you know, like the NCAA app. Because, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the thing about the Masters is it's the most perfectly
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  Speaker 1: run sporting event there is. And their digital game is
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  Speaker 1: stronger than everybody else's. They got like a whole production
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  Speaker 1: bunker on the grounds. Very, very we're the richest people
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  Speaker 1: in the world kind of setup. That's what they got.
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  Speaker 1: But if I'm not mistaken, the app for March Madness–
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  Speaker 1: That let people pop in and watch all the stuff?
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  Speaker 1: That's the Masters app. They was the OGs on that.
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  Speaker 1: So the people that sit at work and pop in,
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  Speaker 1: and then that button that'll put a spreadsheet up on
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  Speaker 1: your shit in case the boss pull up over your shoulder.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? I didn't know about that one.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's a different type of workforce where I
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  Speaker 3: could reasonably argue that this is part of my job.
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  Speaker 2: I don't need to do that. Right, right, right.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody has to hide at ESPN that you're over here
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  Speaker 1: watching the Masters.
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  Speaker 3: They'd be mad if you got a spreadsheet up. You
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  Speaker 3: got that spreadsheet up when the Masters is on.
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  Speaker 1: Pay attention.
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 1: We got some NFL action. The Baltimore Ravens are playing
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  Speaker 1: against the— Buffalo Bills, and on one hand, this could
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  Speaker 1: be very unpleasant because it turned into Magic versus Bird.
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  Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying? It gets real. Hatfield-McCoy, the
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  Speaker 1: feud that I don't think either of the two quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: are involved in, but it's there.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely not. Right?
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  Speaker 1: Counterpoint, who knows if Lamar Jackson's going to play? I
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  Speaker 1: feel like he's probably going to play because he just
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  Speaker 1: went through a full practice. on uh wednesday i am
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  Speaker 1: i'm curious your read because mine is those guys like
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  Speaker 1: him michael vick was very similarly like these sports cars
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  Speaker 1: they don't like to go out there at 80 they
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  Speaker 1: don't like to go out there at 90 like he
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  Speaker 1: felt like he don't know how to do it unless
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  Speaker 1: he's going out there at 100 except for that's not
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  Speaker 1: how this job uh normally works and Unlike others in
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  Speaker 1: his position, Lamar Jackson uses every bit of leverage that
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  Speaker 1: he has, which leads to a situation we saw with
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  Speaker 1: the previous coach, and we see continue with this coach,
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  Speaker 1: where they don't never know what he about to do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the part is, to me, there are some things,
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  Speaker 3: and it's hard to have these conversations about Lamar Jackson
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  Speaker 3: and the Ravens for a couple reasons for me.
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  Speaker 2: One, because I play for the Ravens.
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  Speaker 3: So there's this expectation that I'll say something I'll be
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  Speaker 3: like more protective of that team or that I have
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  Speaker 3: insights that other people don't have, which neither are particularly true.
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  Speaker 3: And then it's also hard because anything that you, any
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  Speaker 3: uniqueness that you point out about the way that Lamar
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  Speaker 3: approaches it, it's like, viewed as a criticism, which is
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  Speaker 3: not always meant as a criticism. It's an observation. And, like,
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  Speaker 3: there are pros and cons to the way anybody goes
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  Speaker 3: about doing anything. And the way that Lamar goes about
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  Speaker 3: managing his career is different.
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  Speaker 2: Like, it's just been different.
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  Speaker 3: And, like, I got, I mean, I use the word
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  Speaker 3: heat because that's the best word I can come up with. But, like,
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  Speaker 3: I got some heat over the off season for bringing
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  Speaker 3: up how differently he's gone about his contract situation relative
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  Speaker 3: to other quarterbacks of his skillset.
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  Speaker 2: Then you start putting all these things together and.
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  Speaker 3: You're like, all of them can be explained easily individually,
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  Speaker 3: but you put them all together and it's like more
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  Speaker 3: concerning than you would want it to be. And then
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  Speaker 3: you put on top of it, the bird verse magic
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  Speaker 3: of it all.
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  Speaker 2: Then it's a whole nother complicating factor.
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  Speaker 3: Then you remember like only one of these quarterbacks said like, uh,
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  Speaker 3: trust Trump and it's even more complicated. So it's like, look, man,
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  Speaker 3: I feel y'all stick to sports. This is what a
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  Speaker 3: place of ball.
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  Speaker 1: I will just point out that the time that he
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  Speaker 1: has been out with this high ankle sprain is about
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  Speaker 1: the time that you're supposed to be out with a
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  Speaker 1: high ankle sprain. I think it has been the reasonable
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  Speaker 1: time away. I would also like to point out that
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  Speaker 1: when he has played, he's probably been the best quarterback
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL this year. I think he has become
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  Speaker 1: an underrated player. at this point. There will be those
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  Speaker 1: postseason questions to ask, but the last time we saw
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  Speaker 1: him really put in a full season, he threw 41
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  Speaker 1: touchdowns against four interceptions, and he's supposed to be the
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  Speaker 1: guy that can't play from the pocket. Right? It's unreal
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  Speaker 1: how good he is, and he's got guys to throw to, right?
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  Speaker 1: They've set him up pretty well in terms of who
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  Speaker 1: there is. I do think, looking at what's happening in
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  Speaker 1: New York, he wouldn't mind having Likely back, because I
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  Speaker 1: think Mark Andrews is about at the end of the road,
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  Speaker 1: but he's... When he's played, he's been very, very, very good.
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  Speaker 1: The way it went last week, I think was just
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  Speaker 1: a bad look for everybody involved.
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  Speaker 3: And it wasn't just, so your point is fair, but
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't just last week and it wasn't just this season.
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  Speaker 3: Like the, what seems to be happening repeatedly is like,
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  Speaker 3: even if you talk to the insiders, like they'll tell
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  Speaker 3: you like everyone in the building thinks he's going to play.
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  Speaker 3: or they think he's going to practice. And then he
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  Speaker 3: decides to practice or play and people are surprised. So like,
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  Speaker 3: I think that's the part is he holds the keys
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  Speaker 3: in a way that football players normally don't. And this
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  Speaker 3: again is like, I don't mean it as a criticism.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it as an observation. This is not something
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  Speaker 3: that is normally football. And I think I talked about
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  Speaker 3: his contract situation in the back and saying it's very,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, in the past saying it's very NBA style
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  Speaker 3: and that it's, I'm gonna hold this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not committing to anything. I'm gonna hold all the leverage.
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  Speaker 2: That's not like you.
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  Speaker 3: See Mahomes and Allen, comparable quarterbacks, they sign an extension
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  Speaker 3: as soon as it's possible to sign the extension, and
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  Speaker 3: they commit to it. And then any information about them,
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  Speaker 3: about their injury stuff, comes out through the team. And
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  Speaker 3: the team knows when the insiders hear from someone in
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  Speaker 3: the organization he's going to play, they know he's going
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  Speaker 3: to play. Or they hear it's up in the air,
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  Speaker 3: they don't know. It's just been different, whereas... you can't
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  Speaker 3: call the team or call whoever the insiders contacts are,
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  Speaker 3: which I'm sure is on management side and get, the
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  Speaker 3: honest answer.
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  Speaker 2: Because they don't know and.
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  Speaker 3: That's the unique part about Lamar versus I mean I
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  Speaker 3: don't say these other quarterbacks but every other football player
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  Speaker 3: really except for maybe a couple of receivers like most
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  Speaker 3: of the time the players in football we talk about
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  Speaker 3: how it's the most conservative sport and militaristic like we
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  Speaker 3: all are soldiers quarterbacks are like a little higher ranked
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  Speaker 3: than the rest of us but normally they fall in
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  Speaker 3: line in a way that Lamar just like I ain't.
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  Speaker 1: Doing that yeah this is the no agent part.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I think that's part of it. There's pros and
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  Speaker 2: cons to that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because part of what the agent is, the agent
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  Speaker 1: is Team Lamar. However, the agent would also kind of
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  Speaker 1: be like, hey, man, I don't think this week. I
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  Speaker 1: know what he's– I'm just telling you, I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 3: You hire– and I tell this to young guys who are–
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  Speaker 3: which I guess no more.
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  Speaker 2: They get agents even sooner now.
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  Speaker 3: But the young guys who are selecting the agent is like, yes,
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  Speaker 3: you're paying the agent, and yes, he works for you.
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  Speaker 3: But he's been in the league for a long time,
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  Speaker 3: and the relationships that he's developed are real relationships that
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  Speaker 3: matter to him. He would rather preserve those relationships for
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  Speaker 3: a long time because he's going to keep working with
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  Speaker 3: those people more than yours. So that's the benefit of
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  Speaker 3: Lamar having a unique agent structure is he doesn't have
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  Speaker 3: to worry about that at all. The drawback is communication
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  Speaker 3: is going to be a little bit– like stilted and
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  Speaker 3: that's what we're getting right now so he doesn't have
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  Speaker 3: a traditional agent he has all the power in a
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  Speaker 3: way that a traditional agent probably wouldn't set it up
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  Speaker 3: because they would talk to their gm buddies and be
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  Speaker 3: like all right we're gonna get it done but we're
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  Speaker 3: in a situation where things the communication connection to the
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  Speaker 3: people who who spread the information like all that stuff
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  Speaker 3: is skewed away from him because it's an it's like
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  Speaker 3: an untraditional way to go about it.
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  Speaker 1: I'd also like to point out it's a really important game,
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  Speaker 1: I would argue, for them. If they lose to go
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  Speaker 1: to 4-4, which is not the worst record you could have,
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  Speaker 1: but they are currently last in their division. It's a
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  Speaker 1: lot going on in that division, but this is also
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  Speaker 1: different when you play against Buffalo. That's the other part, too.
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  Speaker 1: This is a game that you would want to have,
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  Speaker 1: and you're not going to beat Buffalo with Snoop Huntley
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  Speaker 1: offensive output. It's just not going to happen. Y'all need
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  Speaker 1: some points. Yeah. And they need to do it out
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  Speaker 1: there to put up some points.
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  Speaker 3: You can't beat Cincinnati with that offensive output. You couldn't
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  Speaker 3: beat Cleveland with that offensive output. You got one over
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  Speaker 3: on Atlanta, but that was a little bit closer than
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  Speaker 3: I think you anticipated. But yeah, last year they started
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  Speaker 3: out in a deep hole, but they also didn't have
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  Speaker 3: the bangles to contend with. And they've got all the
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  Speaker 3: way back to last year being, like, honestly, kick or
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  Speaker 3: make a kick, they're in the playoffs. But they got
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  Speaker 3: all the way back. So this year the hole's not
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  Speaker 3: as steep, but the competition is steeper.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that 35 points that Cincinnati put on them
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: in the second half leads me to the real– like
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: I say, they need points.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: 44. Now, Humphrey.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Marlon.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey. Look, I talk about this all the time, boy.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: It's a little different now that the schemes are a
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: little more sophisticated in the NFL. But back in the day,
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: we all remember that corner that couldn't cover. We all
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: remember that corner that was getting fired up. It doesn't
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: matter how long you were in that corner that was
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: getting fired up, but they're going to remember this 2026
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: version of Marlon Humphrey for a long time because they
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: fired his ass up. That's bad, bad news.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: We all remember that corner.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Some of us have been that corner before and you
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: can bounce back from it and be the other type
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: of corner at some point. But yeah, like it's the
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: toughest job, like physically on the field to like play consistently.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: You can get lucky and things can work out in
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: your favor, but yeah, it's really hard to play corner
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: at a high level, especially when, as you get older.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: And so you find defensive ways to, to protect them.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: But this is one of the reasons why the bangles
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: are such a tough matchup because what they were doing
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: was doubling away from, from Higgins. They were in leaving
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Wiggins on Higgins manned up and doubling chase. So in
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: the second half, when you have that, you can't protect everybody.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: When you got two guys like that, you can't protect everybody.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: It's a wonder that the bangles can't run the ball
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: to showing how much they're able to threaten secondaries. But, Yeah,
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: it's a tough spot to be in for Marlon Humphrey.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: And he's he like makes it worse for himself.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Did he do something Trumpy?
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he did.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: He like he went to Sparrows Point, I think, in
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Baltimore and rode in the car with Trump and was
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: like celebrating some some jobs.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Coming to the area. And then then responded.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: To some questions about it, where the only thing I
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: could see as he was talking was it just looked
• 17:48
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• 17:51
  Speaker 3: just like.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, I remember that.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was all over the place, and it just
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: made it even worse.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Hey, did Trump say anything about his keister? And I
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: feel like... Oh, probably. Like, I don't know if Marlon
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: got any pride in his keister, but I feel like
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: at this point, if you meet Trump and he don't
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: say nothing about your keister, isn't that kind of like
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: an insult?
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're being... I mean.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: That's a surprise that he switched and became a butt guy.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, ass man.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: About everybody. About everybody. And I got to be fair, like,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: I don't often... comment on everybody's butt but as an
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: athlete it's an important thing i'm gonna notice i mean
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: you're a man or a woman i'm see if you
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: can run whether you are here for whatever reason i
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: want to know if.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: You can run explosive see if you got that burst.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: It's like it's it's not even a choice like you
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: walk by it clicks in my mind you got no
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: speed you got no explosion right.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: There i read uh bruce Bruce Feldman's book about 20
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: years ago called Meat Market. It was a book about
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: a season of Ole Miss recruiting, and that was when
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I first learned about it's a very important thing in
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: recruiting and all of this. All eyes on that keister.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: All eyes on that keister, and you boys value big heads.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: A lot. Like a dude with a big head and
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: a fat ass, man. You're a first-round pick.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: And small ankles. Small ankles. That's right. You got to
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: have small ankles, big ass.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: A nice head. That's what it hit, though, I think.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Or the projection of where your body is going to be.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: That sort of stuff. Nobody was worried about my cranial size.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: I told you the story before about how a scout...
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: my dad lost it a scout when i was a
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: junior in high school at a combine was talking to
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: my dad it's like a combine it's like yeah the
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: boy got good hips and uh on the ride home
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: he was like you ain't going there i was like
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: dad he mean that like i can turn and move
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: i don't know what he mean.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Man talk about you got nice hips.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Like no i mean that i can turn and pivot
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: oh okay.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: No man trump he said that one man had a
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: keister full of muscle he broke back out the the
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: arnold palmer thing yeah you.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Know It's a strategy. Or is it? I don't know
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: anymore at this point.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know what anything is. Like, there's an election
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: next week. Like, that's the part that hit me.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: That election.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm probably going to go in and drop my
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: joint in on the way home. It's an election next week.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: And every time I see that man out there, he
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: talked about it. Now, Nicki Minaj's key story he talked about. And, boy,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: let me tell you, they better watch out. Because, you know,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Trump has this thing where he's weirded out by plastic surgery.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Which is to say that he don't know that she
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: got a prosthesis. Oh. He don't know that that's synthetic keister.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think that Trump knows that there's such a
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: thing as synthetic keister.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, he have to realize that evolution don't
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: work that fast.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but we got to remember, man.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Maybe he don't be looking.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Maybe he don't be looking, but God knows the assumptions
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: that Trump makes about us as a people.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But I mean- It
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: ain't just us.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I know. I know. I know. But I'm just saying it.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: But that one that Nicki Minaj told up there on
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: that stage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I bet he spent the
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: whole ride home like, yo, did you see that?
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: I bet she fast.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: That's a 4-3.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I just want to know on their end of things
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: who they think about to vote for them. Because Nicki
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Minaj pulled up. Right? And by the way, I don't...
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I saw a little bit of like when she first
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: came to the stage, that is not an audience that
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: was like itching to see Nicki Minaj.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Just assume that Nicki Minaj, like hip hop in general
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: is like pretty universal. So like the music people recognize
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: in any time you can stand close to somebody cool,
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: it makes you feel cool. I'm not saying Nicki Minaj
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: is cool. I'm saying that they, that for those people,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: they're like, Oh man, I guess we cool.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the strategy is.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: On one hand, I hear you. On the other hand,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much attention you've been paying the
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: last 10 years or so to the M.O. of the
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: whole Mad Guy. You understand what I'm saying? But I
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: don't think those people are like, ooh, a rapper's here,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: now we feel cool. I just don't feel like that's
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: the proper group of people.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: On that one. That's fair. I mean, I think a
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: lot of their cool is.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Is being in opposition of like what is like the coolness,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: which to me kind of feels like they want to
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: be in the cool. So they see Nicki Minaj, who
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: like is no longer like, in the heart of what
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: is cool, but they still think like, ah. But I mean,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: to your point, I don't know who's changing their mind
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: or who's getting up and going out to vote because
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Nicki Minaj is on stage.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: They think it's a black person that liked them. And
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, man, that'd be making them feel good.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Like deep down inside, they look at each other and
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: they kind of like, damn, it's really just us, huh? Shit. Okay.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Like on one level, that's exactly what they want. But
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: there's a part of them that recognize something wrong with that.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: But isn't that like the Latino vote? From what I've
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: been reading in the polls, I know we can't always
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: trust the polls, but it's swinging back in opposition. But
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: if they was looking around and said, it's just us,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: then the Latino vote came over and they was like,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: you know what?
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: How can we fuck this up?
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe. Let me tell you about these polls, boy.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, believe it when I see it bold on everything.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: They.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: They got people thinking that Mississippi can play? Mississippi, forget
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: about talking about Texas and these other places. They got, like,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I feel like Lucy pulled that football away several times. Well,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: not Mississippi. They ain't even bothered to try to tell
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: that lie.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, Texas, that's the historic one that they believe in.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: That's the.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: You believe it's possible, I believe it when I see it.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one right there that's kind of like.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I believe it when I see it.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Because they make a solid argument that, like, I could
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: understand how people could... So the opposition is just absurd. Like,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: you can't... I get why no one would think that
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: it's possible that people could elect a person who's, like,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: been accused of the things.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Or not been accused of, but found.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: to have been involved and make some pretty terrible decisions.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: But then they make it about, you know what?
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Maybe he's a bad guy, but do you want your
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: country to go this way?
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: It's like, all right.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Like, I have a hard time imagining it. I
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: read a piece saying that Kansas might go.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Like, no way. Kansas ain't going nowhere. Yeah, it's the one.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of those, like, you can't be
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: serious states pop up.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, stop it, man.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Bruh. Bruh. Mississippi is still the one where I'm lying.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: You just think they're going to let it happen?
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Right?
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Like, if it's really like that, let me tell you,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: you're going to start hearing about road closers, power outages
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: in very concentrated sort of areas. But to boil the
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: story and to tie it back to sports is Trump
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: missed his calling as a football scout where he could
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: go look at Keister all day long and just say
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: that that was what he was supposed to do. And
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: you see who it was? I think it was Jamie
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Foxx who told the story. about, or it was Kevin Hart.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. It was Jamie Foxx. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: About Ray Lewis. Yeah, yeah. He tells this story about
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: he's out with somebody and some dude said that he
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: could run a 4-3-40. And Jamie Foxx, and by the way,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: what a lie. I just don't think people understand what
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: a lie. If you could run a 4-3-40, you wouldn't
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: be telling us. You'd be providing video. But anyway, he
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: gets kept saying, he said he ran a 4-3-40. And
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: to challenge this, Jamie Foxx decided to call Ray Lewis.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: And Ray Lewis said, you got a big ass. And
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: he said, no, he ain't run no 4-3-40. That was it. And,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: of course, for Jamie Foxx, this is like craziness that
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: he's hearing. But for those of us with the familiarity
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: around the game, nope. That's all he needed to do
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: was go look at that keister right fast. And he's like, nope.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: I can tell you if you got a chance or not.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: I can tell you right off the top if you
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: got a chance or not. Maybe you don't turn it
• 26:17
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• 26:23
  Speaker 3: if you got small, like long calves, like long calves,
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• 26:29
  Speaker 3: where all the power come from. Ain't no fast person.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Go watch the Olympics. No fast person ever got no
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: big calves, but they all, all of them, Big asses
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: sit up high. That's where the engine at, man. If
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: you show me a corner, I'll let you know right
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: off the bat if he going to be a cover
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: two corner or not.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Formerly of the Tennessee Titans.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations. Where are you going? Chicago. That's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Big news for golf. Big news for Jeff Simmons, who,
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  Speaker 2: Is there another one?
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm missing anybody. I mean, does
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there are guys that in other situations could
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• 30:51
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So now he is going to Chicago. Chicago's trying to
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to learn something about them against Seattle.
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  Speaker 3: around those deficiency. Jeffrey Simmons is one of the five,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: 10 best guys at that position in the league. So
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: he's going to make an immediate impact as for the
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: offense and Caleb.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I think you're right. Last year, a lot of the,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: it was just, we thought he was going to be
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: great off the bat. He struggled.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: And then last year he gave us a bunch of
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: wild plays and the team was really good. And we
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: saw that there was potential because of things that he
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: was struggling with were much easier than the things that,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: he could do well. And to your point, like now
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: he's doing last week, he came in, he's doing the
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: easier stuff a little bit better. And it hasn't cost
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: him the like magic on the other end that we
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: were reminded when Ben Johnson had to back up quarterback
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: for a little bit that, oh yeah, you can do something,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: but there's another level that you might need to reach
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: that can bail you out of some tough situations when
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: you have the talent of somebody like Caleb.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Is any other team in the league matching the cocky
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: sum bitch factor of head coach and Ben Johnson and
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: quarterback Caleb Williams. Offensive-minded head coach Ben Johnson, just to
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: be clear.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Nobody's beating what Ben Johnson has. Caleb gives you this.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: It's definitely cocky, but it's like it's the Aaron Rodgers cocky,
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: the old school Aaron Rodgers cocky before it started to
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: get annoying. And you can see it headed in that direction.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: But Ben Johnson is a different it's like the more
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: original raw. Like, I don't care what you think of me.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Whereas Caleb is to me, it feels like he's always
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: aware of how what he's saying is going to be interpreted.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Ben Johnson, like, I don't give a fuck. I kind
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: of love it.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Hey sticking in this division are you looking forward to
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: the first loss of the season for the Minnesota Vikings?
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Vikings schedule about to start getting a little harder.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: But that defense going up against the Honolulu Blue.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: As you call them.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, man. The Honolulu Blue been killing it
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: this year. Killing it. The thing about it is Jerry
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Goff is a little bit prone to panic. And they
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: coming for him. Hey, man, that man ain't throwing interception
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: all year. I would just also like to note that
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: ESPN Analytics says that America's team, the Detroit Lions, has
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: a 55% chance at victory in this game.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: I think that is good analytics. I would say that
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: they have not been killing it. Their offense has been
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: killing it.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Well, yes, that's what I said. Their offense.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, my bad, my bad. Offensively, they've been killing it.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: And the last two weeks, there has been improvement.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: That's fair. There has been improvement. Yes.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Brian Branch is back. There's been improvement. He made an
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: interception last week.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: He did. This is the test, though, right?
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: This is this defense is a unique one, which is
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: funny because it does feel like a measuring stick for
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: most teams. But they haven't really gone up against a
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: lot of really good teams. But going against the Vikings
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: defense is a bit of a measuring stick. But it's
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: a weird measuring stick because they don't do it like
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: anybody else does it. So like if if they turn
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: out to be terrible against the Vikings this week. I
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: wouldn't trip because you ain't going to see nothing like
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: that again unless you see the Vikings later. But they
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: have the advantage of being in the division and playing
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: against this team multiple times a year and this coach
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: for the last few years that I think they'll be
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: able to produce something. This could be the first loss
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: for the Vikings unless their offense shows up because they're
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: not going to shut down the lines in a way
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: that they shut down all these other teams, especially if
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: they don't have the rain to help them in the
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: way that it did against the Bears. Something I'd also
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: like to point out about the Lions that is a
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: tad worrisome is they are now using Jameer Gibbs like
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: it's 1993 and he's your best running back, which is
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: to say he is on pace to, I think, break
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: the NFL record for touches in a season. I don't
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: think any of us ever really thought of him as
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: being a 350 carry sort of running back, but he
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: has handled it and they believe that he can, but Yeah,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: we'll see about that one. Of note, both he and
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Amon Ross A. Brown are listed as questionable.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's a price that will be paid for
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: a workload like that. The question for the Lions, I think, is,
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: is he going to pay that price this season?
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Or is he going to pay it next season?
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: And that'll determine how far they go to playoffs, probably.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Hey, man, are you ready for a comeback player of
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: the year, Nasty D.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: You see that Stephen A. was all with Canty, and
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: he said that Deshaun Watson was set up to be
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: comeback player of the year, and Canty was like, I'm
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: uncomfortable saying that. But people need to understand something about
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: the way the comeback player of the year award works
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. It is not a comeback from insert
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: thing here, right? It would not necessarily mean that he
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: came back from being nasty. Or it wouldn't even necessarily
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: mean he came back from the Achilles tear. Drew Brees
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: won Comeback Player of the Year in the NFL in 2004,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: and all he came back from was being sorry. That's
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: all you got to do is used to be sorry
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: and then improve. He looked good last week. They are 5-2,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: going against the 5-2 Pittsburgh Steelers. Their point differential indicates
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: they're not as good as they say, but me and
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Ryan went through the schedule. There's a world where they
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: go 11-6, and this whole uncomfortable thing just continues. And
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: these Cleveland Browns fans that, you know, I understand that
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: some of you are mortified and would prefer that Deshaun
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Watson not be your quarterback, but not as much as
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: you would prefer to be 11-6. I'm watching you guys.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: That'll be interesting, the decisions that they make, because we
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: all thought that they were gearing up to draft a quarterback.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: And the owner of the team pretty clearly said that
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: the Deshaun Watson trade in contract was a mistake.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Like, if they get to the end of this year
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: where his contract expires, I assume there's really almost nothing
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: he could do to make them, like, sign and retain him.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: But 11-6.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: And this is a weird year to try to take
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: a quarterback.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Nobody seems to feel good about the class.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, but they'll convince themselves. It don't matter.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: They will.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: You'll be convinced that two or three of them were
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: failed by everything around them and they're going to work out.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: But I think that people do that when they have
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: to do that. The question is whether or not the
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Browns are going to feel as though they have to
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, the trade with the Rams seems like it's
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: working out really well for them.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Like the Rams are much worse than we expected.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: And, and miles Garrett seems to not have enough left
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: to lift the team in the way that he did
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: with them last year. So they'll have a pretty high
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: pick combined with their picks. I'd be stunned if they
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: don't get a quarterback, man, like I would be stunned.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: So like the Deshaun Watson thing, I think is, yeah,
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: it is of course uncomfortable in part because, because we sent,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: he's coming back from the injury or you say coming
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: back from suspension, but also like he never really did
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: the thing that is required.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Like we'll welcome people back in. He ain't never really
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: did a thing.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: He's still riding that story out. Right. And you know why?
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Cause he still ain't told her the truth. That's why
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: he got it. As long as he's lying to her,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: if he's lying.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: For more, get a call and call me all bad. Um,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: If he's lying to her, then he has to continue
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: lying to us. Yeah.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: But, hey, I just want to say this. Everybody involved
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: in NFL media, you don't have to. know if you're
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: going to be broadcasting one of them Cleveland Browns games.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Y'all need to start having meetings right now about the
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: packages y'all going to put together. Don't go out like
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Amazon did. People have not been happy with the way
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: that Amazon handled that game. Yeah, that's the face. Y'all don't.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: When you start talking about Nasty D, you need to
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: run this through many levels. Workshop. Workshop. This whole situation.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: I'm putting you up on game right now, right? I'm
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: helping you. Right fast, we got the Chiefs and the Broncos,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: and I feel like the Broncos feel a lot to
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: me like I think the Packers feel, where how they
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: feel and what their record is. don't feel like the
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: same thing at all. I guess the Packers feel worse
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: than 4-3. They were very close to being 5-2, but
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: they feel worse than being 4-3, and the Broncos do
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: not feel 5-2 because the last time they played, even
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: though they won, all we talked about was how sorry
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: their quarterback is. Ryan Fitzpatrick got his licks in, and
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: when you heard it, you were like, Yeah, there. There.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: And, I mean, then they had the Arizona game where
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: they looked a little better. The quarterback ran for a
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: 60-yard touchdown.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Yes. Oh, I forgot about that game. Yeah, the Broncos.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: Are living off of, I think– Our expectations of them,
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: and to your point, they've won more games than you
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: actually think they are when you watch the games. That
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Rams game that they played, they probably should have lost
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: that game to the Rams because that interception that was
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: called out-of-bounds... And called pass interference when it was neither.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Like, you're right.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: They're getting away with some things. And last year they
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: got away with a bunch of close game wins. But
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: it's just a talented team. Without Sertan, they'll be better
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: when he's back and healthy. But they're just a talented
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: team that's been treading water and has a quarterback that
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: doesn't seem they really trust or believe in.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: But speaking of teams that might need to look into
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: getting a quarterback. Yeah.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know if they would pull that maneuver because
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: he's had some success for them, but if it's available.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll also throw this out there. Something that has
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: become incredibly rare in the NFL is teams with surplus quarterbacks.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: And it appears there may be one team that at
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: the end of the year will have a surplus quarterback.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: What if J.J. McCarthy.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Actual factual turns out to be good.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Which would be quite the deviation from what we have seen.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: It's funny how all we need is a little bit, man.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: If you were drafted high, you got a little pedigree,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: you give us a little something. We're willing to get
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: excited because he gave us a little something last week.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: And I don't mean this as judgment. I was like, oh. I, too,
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: was like, okay, there's something here.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's why they took you in
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: the first round, which I never saw in this previous time.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: The thing about, and I know this sounds counterintuitive because
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: the Texans are a very talented defense, and last year
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: was one of the best defenses, is it's probably a
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: pretty good defense to go up against if you're a
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: young quarterback. because they don't do much disguise. They're like,
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: we're just going to beat your ass up front. You
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: know where our best players are. We're not going to
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: move them around. We're not going to trick you. We
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: might blitz a little bit, but we're going to go.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: It's going to be clear as cover four. It's going
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: to be clear as cover one. You know what you
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: have to do. Can you do it before we get
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: to you? And I think for J.J. McCarthy, like, yeah,
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: athleticism is there. The thing that he did last week
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: that I thought was special that wasn't really the throws
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: was like stepping up in the pocket and using his
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: athleticism to to buy more time. That was Jameis was
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: a statue back there.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: So just having that ability, I think, really helps him.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Look at that progress, boy. Get that black man out
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: of there so that white boy can run around. You know,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: back in the day, that's the thing. They'd put that
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: white boy in there specifically for that purpose. You need
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: to stand still, play quarterback like a man instead of
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: running around like a goddamn jackrabbit. You know, like now,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: you know, the game done changed. Progress. Look at that.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: We done made progress. The white man wins again. Right.
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: So what progress has actually been made? Rather than progress,
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: it's simply a rearrangement. We just started moving stuff around.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, oh, we want to live in the
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: cities again.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: That's exactly what it is.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: We back.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: We back.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Nah, ain't no bus out there. I don't know how
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: you going to get to work. Figure it out. Shit.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Maybe y'all can ride together like you did when you.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Was on the boycott.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: But before I forget, any worry about Kansas City after
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: the Sunday night game?
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have some.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, I got into it with Orlovsky on on
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Get Up because you broke out.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: He had a calculator.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: He retold that story, and it was me who explained
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: it to him. He gave all the credit to him, Bo.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Once you told me that, I was a little disappointed
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: in him. For those of y'all who don't know, Dan
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Orlowski don't understand what percent is.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a rough moment.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: And you're asking yourself, what do you mean he doesn't
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: understand what percent is? I mean, the whole notion and
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: the idea. Like, McAfee had to tell him, now everybody
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: knows what percent is.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: And the way that it went down was– he asked
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: him both for a stat. So him both said it
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: was a, uh, Joe Burrow had a 4% sack rate.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: And, um, good job, Joe, Joe Burrow. That's an improvement. Yeah. Yeah.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: And Dan was like, so give it to me in
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: a way that people will understand. Because like, if I
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: just say 4%, no one will get it. And then
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: that's when I chimed in and was like, I don't
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: think we can get any more simple to this. And
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: I was like, 4%. That means out of every 100 times,
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: four times, this thing is going to happen.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: And he was like, what? That's what it?
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: And I said, per cent, like cents, like century, like
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: 100 per 100.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: And he was like, what? I never knew that. And
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: I was like the etymology, like I.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Could understand, maybe not understand the etymology of it, but like.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: How you live life. not knowing that percent me out
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: of 100.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Hey, brother, this is the part that got me in
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: the telling that you just had is when he said,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: give me, because I am a, and on the principle
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: of the idea of give me something that people are
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: going to understand.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: I'm big on that, right? The fact that he thought
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: percent was an advanced, he thought that none of us
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: knew it because he didn't know it. Don't do that
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: to me, brother. You understand what I'm saying? Like that, that,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: that here in that part, nobody's going to. Yeah.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't do that to him if he didn't already
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: do it to himself because I would be. And so
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: like we're sometimes on get up like commercial funny things
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: to have in a commercial break. We'll bring him on air.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: Greeny was like, nah, we can't do that one. He
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: was like, nah, nah, we ain't going to do that.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: And he took it himself.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: He went all these places. Nowhere did he realize, brother.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: No, no.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: He did get up that morning in first take, and
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: then he went to do McAfee.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: And boy, be working. So maybe his brain's just tired.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: All I'm saying is this. Whatever it is that y'all
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: think about Pat McAfee and his crew, whatever y'all think
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: it is, they were mortified. Pat McAfee tried to change
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: the subject. He tried to jump on that grenade. And
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Dan was like, no, no, no, no. I know Pat
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: didn't know. Pat's like, no, brother, we all... Why can't
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: we just go talk about something else? They were some
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: good homies. That was what I thought when I saw
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: them there, man. I was like, oh, okay. They some.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: They have some good friends.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: But the Kansas City Chiefs, what worries you about that?
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was saying that he and I got into
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: it because he did the same thing that we do
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: every year with the Chiefs.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: It's like, but we got to get him a receiver.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: And, like, my point is we're imagining the Chiefs in
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: the way that they were with Tyreek Hill. They ain't
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: been like that. They're not going to be like that
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: because it's Tyreek Hill that made.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Them like that. Like, we think that.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: And Tyreek Hill went to Miami and demonstrated that he
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: can be like that with just about anybody.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: He's an all-time great player.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so the combination of him and Mahomes is
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: what made that happen. Assuming that we can fix that
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: by finding another receiver that's a cast off from somewhere
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: else that has a lot of skill but didn't work out. No,
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: that's not what y'all had when y'all had that. And
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: when you watch that Seattle game, the problem was Their
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: offense had been playing against bad defenses, or at least
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: bad run defenses, and they were running the hell out
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: of the ball, which then led to these defenses adding
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: another player to the box, which then made it so
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes could attack downhill, downfield to Tyquan Thornton. When
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: you watch that Seahawks game, the Seahawks were not required
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: to compromise themselves in any way to stop the run.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: They played too high and shut that shit down.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: And so my point was like, We're not going to
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: solve this by getting another receiver. If you had someone
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: like Tyreek Hill, then OK, you play too high. We
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: still going to beat it. But the way that you
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: solve this is by being able to run the ball
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: like you did early in the season. Get back in
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: those situations where the teams come out and load the ball.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: because you're running the ball so well. And if they're
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: not able to run the ball that way against these good,
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: these better defenses, then I don't think that the solve
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: is getting someone who can threaten downfield like that's not
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: no one. It's not going to move me like I
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: can play cover two or two man or play whatever
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: coverage I want to take away your deep passing game
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: because I have all the DBs I need to scheme
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: it up because you can't run the ball against my
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: front seven.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Let's see how it goes. I think I might go
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: watch that game with Nick.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: That'll be fun.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: That'll be an interesting way to get the pulse.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Watch them tackles.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: You tell Nick to focus on one tackle, you focus
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: on the other tackle.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: You'll know how that game is going to go.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Is Josh Simmons going to be playing?
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: That's another. That has been an incredible athlete. Confused from
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: the start to his career.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: You know what it sounds like? It sounds like he's
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: supposed to be a three-tech. He's supposed to be on
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: the other side of the ball. He's supposed to be
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: going forward. That's why he's so fucked up. Y'all got
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: him going the wrong way. Y'all got him behaving against
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: his nature. He can wind up playing defensive line and
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: be like, yo. It's like when people tell me, like
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: people I know who have ADHD, and they tell me
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: they take the medicine, and it's like, yo, there's been
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: this fog that's been lifted.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Right. All of a sudden, all this background noise isn't
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: running anymore. That's what's going to happen when he turned
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: up to the other side.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: I just love that.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: And it's come to me honestly is that I don't
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: believe in Zodiac signs or anything like that.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: But I do believe in positions telling me all I
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: need to know.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: Like I can have a full conversation about someone's personality,
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: whether they play sports or not. If I tell one
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: of my people who in football, like, oh, nah, nah,
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: she a DB. They know exactly what that means about
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: her personality.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Like, nah, nah, that's, oh, she a guard? Oh, that's
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: a guard?
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: I can deal with that. Sacrifice, baby.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: I feel like guards, though, are the defensive linemen of
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: the offensive line.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: The guards, though, it's a desperation thing for guards, man.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: No disrespect to the guards, but the guards, as Mike
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: Golick Jr. will tell you, a former guard himself, that
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: it's the last spot on the team before you off
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: the team. Because it's like you ain't big enough to
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: play tackle. You're not explosive enough to play defense. So
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: you're just like, man.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Happy to be here, baby.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Everybody's a guard, with the exception of being like Bruce Matthews.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Everybody's a guard because of something they're not.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Even Quentin Nelson, who's a great guard. Short arms.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: But that's why you guard, baby. A little bit of shortcomings.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he is the best. I don't
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: know enough about offensive line to talk about who the
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: best guards are or not. But I will tell you this.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: He appeared to be the most imposing guard that I
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: recall ever seeing.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Well, Makai Becton. Yeah, but he's not.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: A guard, right?
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: He's a tackle playing guard.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: I've only ever seen Quentin Nelson. And also, Makai Becton
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: seems to be a much nicer man than Quentin Nelson.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, true.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: White Quentin, by the way. That's an important detail.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize that that was a random.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: So Kevin Clark was on our show a couple days ago,
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: and he pointed that out to me.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, I didn't realize that was
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: a thing.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: White Quentin?
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Or that, like, it was unique.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like cute names... Quentin, Quincy's, all of those,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: we hold down the Qs. Tarantino, though. Tarantino came up.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: That is true. That's the only one. And God knows
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: he doesn't think he's white Quentin.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: He did not. He'd be using words.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: He thinks his name being Quentin affords him.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Privileges.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you're somewhere and somebody be like, hey, yo, Q,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: you're not expecting a white person to turn around.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: As someone with a Q in my name, yeah.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: It's lonely out here, baby.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: That's right. We've taken them all. Before we get out
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: of here, Ernie Johnson. Junior, for those of us who
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: are Braves fans, because, you know, his dad did the
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Braves games when we were growing up. So he's Ernie
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Johnson Jr. He has announced that he will be retiring
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: at the end of this year. Now, as I recall,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Charles Barkley had already told this because Charles Barkley said
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: that he thinks this will be his last year because
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: it's going to be Ernie's last year. But it'd be
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: so much going on that we can't remember. And then
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Ernie said he's been doing that show for 37 years.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: And everybody seemed real sad, obviously. Ernie, I don't know
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: if anybody's got a higher Q rating than Ernie. Who's
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: the person? There's somebody out there. I don't know who
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: it is. I always say there's somebody that hates Steph
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Curry's guts and has nowhere. When Dolly Parton died, I
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: always felt so bad for whoever that was that had
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: been hating Dolly Parton since they was in the eighth
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: grade and don't nobody want to hear it. I don't
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: know who the person is that hates Ernie because everybody
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: seemed to love Ernie.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how you get to hate Ernie
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: at this point, and he's walking away at this point. Now,
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: before you can get to the point where you even
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: criticize him, because that's where some hate might have come from,
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: is if he gets bad at his job and he's
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: still around, somebody might, young people, like.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Man, he ain't even good.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: I started to see that happening to some people in
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: our industry, but it ain't going to happen to Ernie
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: because he out of there.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: I can't even fix my... And he's not.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: super opinionated for or against any team so like i
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: can't see you saying well he don't like my team
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: like ernie just a just a nice guy man hey.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Man ernie adopted children ernie ernie b cancer Like Ernie
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Ernie Ernie be wearing them bow ties to raise to
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: raise money for people. And Ernie has a role. I
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: don't think the white people properly understand his role. But
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: a lot of you, if you if you care and
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: I understand that many of you do not. But if
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: you care, Ernie is the template for the white homie.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: Ernie has spent the last 26 years, because Charles has
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: been doing that show now for, it'll be the 27th
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: year that Charles has been doing that show. Wow. He
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: has been Black America's white homie forever. doing that job,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: and all he's ever done is just been himself. He
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: ain't tried to do too much. In fact, they ain't
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: even really have him try to do, like, getting a
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: little too heavy into that until ESPN had him up
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: there doing DMX to do the promotion, right? But otherwise,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: and keep in mind, when I say he's a white homie,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: when he did not vote for Trump, he wrote in
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: John Kasich. That's fair. You ain't got to come over
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: here and pretend. You ain't got to come over here
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: and pander. He's just hanging out with those guys, knew
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: the jokes he didn't know, doesn't make a big deal
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: about it when he doesn't know the jokes. Hey, look
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: how white I am. Never does that. Just rolls in
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: with whatever it is that they're rolling with, learn how
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: to get in and tell the jokes when it was
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: his time to tell the jokes.
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: And.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: The very tricky situation of being the only white man
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: on site when they tell them jokes that imply that
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Charles don't read very good. It's stuff like that where
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: a white man could really get in trouble. Not Artie.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Artie's like, I let them tell those jokes amongst themselves.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: It's smart.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: And I mean, I think that honestly, what I see
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: from him is a level of and I hate to
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: use buzzwords like authenticity, but he seems so secure.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: And that's your point is like even dubbing it the
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: white homie. Like, I know what you're saying, but I
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: think that people would assume that that if you tell them.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: Go be the white homie. They think that it mean
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: I got to go do something different.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: No.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: Just being the white homie is like being any other homie.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: Just be yourself. And if yourself is cool, you the
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: white homie.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: That is exactly it. And please understand this about black people.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: We'd be so happy y'all be nice to us.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: You don't have to come to where we... If you
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: are where we are and you're good with that, that's
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: all we require of the white homie.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: And I also think it's like the.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: the record the recognition of like um the the black
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: experience and uniqueness of different people recognizing that it's not
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: lesser than correct it's like that's something you get from
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: ernie whereas for us to be the black homies so
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: to speak in another situation we is required that you
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: um assimilate in some way and you like change or
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: you provide something like to be the black homie you
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: have to do something so i understand why you would
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: think coming over means i got to do something to
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: be there but like no because what your culture is
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: is like the main driving factor what what is cool
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: when y'all come over here it's like nah this is
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: you're welcome here that way but we feel differently.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Over there so it's like ernie is like yeah I'm
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: Ernie Johnson. This is who I am.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: And religion, I think, has a lot to do with
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: powering the way that he feels. I'm not saying that
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: it would change anything about him. But, like, I think
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: it does help give him, like, to believe in that
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: stuff so sincerely gives him some, like, security and comfort
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: in being a truer version of himself.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: He also grew up in Atlanta. Like, I don't know
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: exactly his Atlanta upbringing. Like, I don't know where in town. Because,
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: you know, boy, when the white people left Atlanta, brother,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: they left Atlanta. But, you know, working for Turner, you know,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: being around all those places. I know he did TV
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: and making for a little while. And I hadn't really
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: thought about this part until now. That show is never
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: thought of as a black show. And it is very black.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Very black. Right? Ernie's mere presence. And given the co-sign
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: of it, it's pretty cool, eh?
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: All right, cool.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Like, this is pretty fun. Like, I've been back there
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: in the green room with them, Watch it. I already
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: tipped them macaroni and cheese, you know, because them cats
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: get to decide what the plates are going to be.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: I already just hang it. Like, everything is just, it's
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: a great hang. It's a great hang.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: The idea that it's not considered a black show is
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: interesting to me because it's, like, it's very difficult to
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: have anything be mostly black. And, like, culturally and, like,
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: the way that they carry themselves feels different.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Like less.
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: Conventional and I mean, less so now because they've been
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: around for so long. But like that to me is interesting.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: It's always just been considered like the NBA show, not
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: the black NBA show.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: But it's also I think it's worth noting that the
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: show is not a particularly hip hop show.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: And I think I think that when hip hop came around,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: they were willing to.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: All right, cool.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've seen what it can be. How about we
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: just settle on not hippity hop black? Huh? How about that?
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: What do you guys think? Like, why don't we just,
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: why don't we just land there?
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm thinking about like the other shows, like, um,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: Which I guess very few things, new things, I think
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: are like coming on TV now.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: So it's like a lot more digital stuff.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: But even Shannon Sharp, which show obviously crossover and it's
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: hugely popular.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Like that feels like a black show.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Very much black.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: Right. The guess he has a black is like.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: Talk about black things and giving off black yeah like.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: That show does that too right.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah you know right i know but that's that's my
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: point exactly it's.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Just interesting in that way that it could do that
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: um i've seen that now the question is you know
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: the speculation about who will wind up being next now
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: the real question is is charles going to come back
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: or not because charles i just can't explain to you
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: after i after i did that week working at turner
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: it was like oh no charles is everything right like
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: charles isn't the the the tone setter the culture all
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: of these things But if you keep it going, I'll
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: say it out here. There's no question here. That's Lefkoe's job. Yeah.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: Friend of the program. I guess playmaker sports colleague. I
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: guess he's also on that list. But no, that's a
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: that's a Lefkoe. Lefkoe's good at being the white homie.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: He gets it. You know, the thing is, though, Lefkoe
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: got all that bass in his voice. People won't understand
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: that he just being himself.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: But Ernie got all that bass in his voice, too.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: I think that's an important thing if you're going to
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: be the white homie. Some quiet storm shit is a
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: good start.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: It's a good start.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: And I think Lefkoe grew up at a different time
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: than Ernie, so Lefkoe, I think, is also a lot more.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Like it's about the authenticity, right?
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: Like I think Lefkoe is authentically a little bit more
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: hip hop than Ernie was. So like whatever happens to
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: that show, I assumed.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: It was going to be Lefkoe. I think it should be.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: He works with those guys regularly and they still have
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: the same rapport. Him and Shaq do a lot of
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: stuff together. So I'm putting in my vote. And let
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: me tell you this about Lefkoe too.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Um, I stayed at the hotel that everybody stays at
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: whenever you do Turner work. We in there. And I
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: pulled up in the lobby with Lefkoe one day. Lefkoe,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: the mayor of that bad boy.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: Lefkoe walking around this hotel in Atlanta and the staff, I-Y-K-Y-K.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: He the mayor when he pull up.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of those guys. Yes. He's the mayor
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: everywhere he goes.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: Anytime or at least he does the politician thing, which
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: I guess call it a politician thing makes it sound
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: like it's not genuine.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: I believe it to be genuine.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: But like, whereas everybody in the room, I'm gonna make
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: you feel good. I'm shaking your hand, talk to you,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: be cool with you genuinely. So, yeah, like he's someone
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: to everybody. I think the more they get to know him. Well,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: he'll fit right into that Ernie role as like super likable,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: authentic guy.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: I'm friends with somebody that went to college with Lefkoe's
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: wife and she did not understand exactly how Lefkoe had
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  Speaker 1: pulled that off. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: He's the mayor. He's like, oh, OK, that explains it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think, yeah, people are going to learn
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  Speaker 3: a lot more about Lefkoe and his family later on.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to spoil it for nobody.
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  Speaker 1: But hey, that is Dominique Foxworth. Check him out on
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