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HIGHTLIGHT POD 30 MINS: The Woody Show June 17th 2026 Podcast · The Woody Show

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Speaker 1: Show, Kevin Smith is here, that FIFA is happening right now, right, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: Well people, I guess a lot of people flying in
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Speaker 1: for it from other countries.
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Speaker 2: What they're doing is they're flying and they going to
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Speaker 2: New York. They're staying in New York. But the games
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Speaker 2: are like in Jersey, Jersey, and so in their heads
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Speaker 2: they're like, well, New Jersey's next New York. And they're
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Speaker 2: trying to walk. Oh, it is impossible. It is virtually
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Speaker 2: impossible to walk from Manhattan to East Brotherford, New Jersey
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Speaker 2: without using a tunnel or a bridge, and they or
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Speaker 2: freeway or what we call the turnpike, and they really frown.
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Speaker 3: Kevin Smith is here. And if you follow Kevin on
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Speaker 3: social media and you see all the different things, one
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Speaker 3: of the things he's spending a lot of his time
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Speaker 3: on is this movie theater that he saved from his
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Speaker 3: It's his childhood movie theater in New Jersey.
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Speaker 2: It was going to be the movies come to play.
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Speaker 3: It was gonna be condos and you do a lot
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Speaker 3: of really cool things there. I kind of feel and
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Speaker 3: I wanted to get your your take on this. You
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Speaker 3: hear a lot about you know, what's what's gonna happen
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Speaker 3: with the movie theater. Is the movie theater going to
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Speaker 3: continue to be a thing or is it done? I
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Speaker 3: think the way that you're doing it, these experiences, how
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Speaker 3: people go there, and it's just more than just going
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Speaker 3: and grabbing popcorn and watching something.
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Speaker 2: That seems to be the currency of the now in
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Speaker 2: the future, which world of AI. Yeah, every thing is
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Speaker 2: easy to fake and whatnot. People now want live and
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Speaker 2: going forward, they feel like that's going to be the
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Speaker 2: big thing. So for years now, I've I've relied on live, Like,
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Speaker 2: I don't just release a movie in theaters. It costs
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Speaker 2: too much money and we'll probably die on the vine. However,
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Speaker 2: if I take it out strategic strategically and bring it
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Speaker 2: to my audience and stuff like that, and show up
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Speaker 2: with the movie, so I'm there backing it as well,
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Speaker 2: you're getting two shows for one. You know, you're getting
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Speaker 2: like a live show and you're getting the movie good
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Speaker 2: to Q and A afterwards, And it seems like that's
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Speaker 2: what everyone's gonna have to drive towards. So I don't
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Speaker 2: think in our lifetime we're gonna see a lot of
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Speaker 2: multiplexes built. Ever, again, I.
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Speaker 3: Think right now, what we got is what we got
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Speaker 3: it down.
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Speaker 2: It's apparently gonna shrink from there. Do I think the
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Speaker 2: movie going experience will ever go away? Absolutely not. Do
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Speaker 2: Like records, they're always be enthusiasts.
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Speaker 3: Where the record stores other than like vintage kind of shops.
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Speaker 2: In the cities and whatnot. But also think about this,
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Speaker 2: like when you had theater back in the day, and
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Speaker 2: the advent of cinema threatened theater, people like, oh, theater
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Speaker 2: is gonna go away. It just got more expensive. Exactly.
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Speaker 2: Movies are just gonna get more expensive in order to
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Speaker 2: make the rent. They're gonna be like, all right, well,
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Speaker 2: if you want your movie, you want your cinema. You
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Speaker 2: want to enjoy what you enjoyed years ago as a kid.
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Speaker 2: And when you want it the old way, they're gonna
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Speaker 2: make it pay for the nose. Thirty forty fifty bucks
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Speaker 2: for that experience right now. Movie ticket at our movie theater.
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Speaker 2: We held the line for years at ten bucks. We
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Speaker 2: finally had to go up to twelve bucks for a
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Speaker 2: night show and stuff during the day. It's like seven
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Speaker 2: fat cats, I know, get rich, get rich on a
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Speaker 2: non profit movie theater.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think about movies being incorporated into
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Speaker 3: things like the sphere and causem like brilliant.
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Speaker 2: Like fantastic. I mean, I know, like with the Wizard
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Speaker 2: of Oz of the sphere there was some consternation about
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Speaker 2: like the created dwarves.
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Speaker 3: What does that word?
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Speaker 2: I'm assuming something negative. They were upset and I said dwarves.
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Speaker 2: I should have said munchkins. They added munchkins to the film,
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Speaker 2: like in order to make it go all the way around,
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Speaker 2: they had to add stuff that wasn't there. So naturally
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Speaker 2: people are purists, are like, I don't want that. But
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Speaker 2: the idea of you know, one more place to watch
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Speaker 2: a movie, particularly a movie like that which is celebrated
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Speaker 2: and you know when we were kids, they put it
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Speaker 2: on TV once a year. It was such a big deal,
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Speaker 2: Like makes sense for a venue of that size. What
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Speaker 2: else are they going to do there, for heaven's sakes, Yeah, no,
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Speaker 2: and the visual and I would love to see clerks
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Speaker 2: on that giant. Well, the cause of people.
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Speaker 3: They're doing Harry Potter stuff that's really really cool.
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Speaker 2: That makes sense, right, You take the movies everybody loves
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Speaker 2: and loves seeing in the theater and you present it
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Speaker 2: and new for that's what forty X kind of does
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Speaker 2: you know, and uh, the screen X experience. They take
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Speaker 2: the movie and they just amp it up, yeah, to
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Speaker 2: make it like for the people hanging off the edges, going,
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Speaker 2: I don't I could watch a movie at home, but
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Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, but can your chair come to life
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Speaker 2: and shake you?
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Speaker 3: And stuff like that's fun. Like going back to the
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Speaker 3: nostalgia thing, I went for the Back to the Future
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Speaker 3: anniverse where they like this past October they had a
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Speaker 3: back in theaters and say it's been forever since the
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Speaker 3: eighties since I saw in the theater, and it's my
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Speaker 3: favorite movie of all time, the original. It's my favorite
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Speaker 3: movie of all time. And that was that was cool,
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Speaker 3: and I made it always to go.
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Speaker 2: To the theater.
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Speaker 4: They always do well when they put stuff up like oh,
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Speaker 4: we're gonna put Jaws back for summer.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, people go to that. Yeah. I've noticed a lot
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Speaker 2: of cats, Like for years I've been and I'm not
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Speaker 2: saying they stole the idea for me, but for years
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Speaker 2: I've been out there tub thumping with my own movies,
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Speaker 2: like Bringing the Moutains. But I just saw it to
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Speaker 2: stand by me. Kids are like out on a tour
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Speaker 2: to watch a movie and then they chit chat afterwards,
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Speaker 2: and then I'm like, you know what, good for them,
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Speaker 2: but I'd like to whip my beak a little off,
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Speaker 2: like stand by me money because you know those screens.
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Speaker 3: Us so yeah, well, you know, you know, Kevin, You've always,
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Speaker 3: you know, gone about things your own way to get
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Speaker 3: things done, like there's an obstacleality, there's an obstacle you
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Speaker 3: figure away, like, oh well, how can we do There's
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Speaker 3: so many people just go, well, that's the world we
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Speaker 3: live in, or it is what it is. I hate
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Speaker 3: those answers we get around here in the corporate world
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Speaker 3: and it's like no, no, no, don't just accept the know,
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Speaker 3: ask the why, all right, why can't this be done?
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Speaker 3: And you've done a really good job with that. I
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Speaker 3: just saw something recently I thought was interesting with with
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Speaker 3: clerks and when you filmed it, because so many people
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Speaker 3: thought and the story you ran with for a long time,
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Speaker 3: the black and the black and white thing about oh well,
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Speaker 3: it was an artistic choice to put it in black
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Speaker 3: white because that's what the surveillance video from the store
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Speaker 3: would have seen. Like as I had nothing to do
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Speaker 3: with it at all.
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Speaker 2: It was when we made the flick we made we
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Speaker 2: shot black and white because it was inexpensive. In order
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Speaker 2: to shoot color, we would have had to rent a
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Speaker 2: completely different light package or a light package, you know.
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Speaker 2: I was content to use the fluorescence.
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Speaker 3: From inside the store.
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Speaker 2: But Dave Klein, who is our DP, who ps first.
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Speaker 2: He grew up to be the cinematographer of Mandalorian and Grogu,
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Speaker 2: the guy shot clerks. What a glow. So Dave says
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Speaker 2: to me, he goes, if we shoot under these lights
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Speaker 2: at the pallor everyone's complexion can be green. I said why,
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Speaker 2: he goes, because that's what you get with these lights.
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Speaker 2: He said, we need tungsten lights. I was like, I
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Speaker 2: can't afford to run a new lighting package. And he goes, well,
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Speaker 2: that's what happens. What happens if we shoot in black
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Speaker 2: and white. He goes, well, then there's no color whatsoever.
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Speaker 2: So nobody looks green. And so I was like, all right,
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Speaker 2: let's shoot in black and white. So it was purely
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Speaker 2: a cost decision. And so when the movie went out
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Speaker 2: and played at festivals and whatnot, it started getting reviewed.
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Speaker 2: Like one of the reviews I read said, the film
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Speaker 2: is brilliantly shot in black and white, as if from
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Speaker 2: the perspective of the store security camera, and from then
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Speaker 2: point on, whenever I did interviews like why black and White,
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Speaker 2: I was like, well, I wanted to make it feel
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Speaker 2: like the store security camera.
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Speaker 3: I think he told that story on our friend Jim
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Speaker 3: Kurr's show, Jim Kerrman, you want a legend New York
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Speaker 3: and New York. I was watching the video from your
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Speaker 3: appearance there at LJ.
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Speaker 2: What is he now?
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Speaker 3: He's like, you want a four point three? Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 2: I told him I was watching The Soprano did a
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Speaker 2: rewatch The Sopranos, which holds up absolutely unbelievably well man.
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Speaker 2: But there's one episode where like in the background, you're like,
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Speaker 2: Jim Kerr on w.
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Speaker 3: P was so, yeah, well, Kevin Smith is here. I
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Speaker 3: want to talk about your movies when we come back.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of people, UH talk about or
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Speaker 3: do things like this, and I thought it was pretty fun.
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Speaker 3: No Doubt just did one where they had everybody, all
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Speaker 3: the you know, Gwen and all the people from Doubt,
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Speaker 3: like the other band mates, in a line and they
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Speaker 3: would put up like two different songs and they had
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Speaker 3: like maybe step to the left or step to the right,
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Speaker 3: and I think just an insight from the people who
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Speaker 3: made it.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 3: So, looking at some of your movies, and I went
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Speaker 3: to go see, like, because there's so many to choose from,
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Speaker 3: I wanted the narrow it down because we could be
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Speaker 3: here all day with how many movies you've done. But
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Speaker 3: all right, so I'm gonna give you six. You have
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Speaker 3: to pick two more to go into what we're gonna
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Speaker 3: do after the break.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 3: So Clerk's made the list because I went based on
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Speaker 3: this is a ranking of what they say from all
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Speaker 3: your movies have the biggest cultural impact. All right, So
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Speaker 3: Clark's was was you know on that?
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Speaker 2: Still?
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Speaker 3: What's that?
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Speaker 2: I'm still eating out on Clerk?
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Speaker 3: Sure, right, but I'm saying, like, so the and these
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Speaker 3: are in no particular order, Okay, I have Chasing Amy
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Speaker 3: on here, so Clark's Chasing Amy. I have mal Rats
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Speaker 3: on here, Zach and Mary making Porno is on here,
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Speaker 3: Dogma clearly on. They're one of my favorite movies of
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Speaker 3: all time. And then Clerks too, because it doesn't matter what. Okay,
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Speaker 3: two more so I've all do wild cards. Two wild
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Speaker 3: card spots.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with uh Tusk and Clerks.
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Speaker 3: Three Tusk and Clerks three. All right, you'll see where
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Speaker 3: we're going with this when we come back from the break.
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Speaker 3: You can hang out right, you're not.
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Speaker 2: Is this one of these ninety seconds things refused to
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Speaker 2: be again? No?
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Speaker 3: No, no, no, wow. Now I feel like an idiot
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Speaker 3: costing me all these questions when the hammer is not there.
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Speaker 3: Kevin Smith, I don't think you're gonna think this is
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Speaker 3: very fair. And I allow a lot of people like
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Speaker 3: artist types like yourself. Well, it's like having to choose
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Speaker 3: between your children. These are your children, these films in
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Speaker 3: your case, or songs from your band. That's exactly what
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Speaker 3: we're asking to do. We've come up a little bracket style
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Speaker 3: with different movies and you got to pick two. You
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Speaker 3: threw Tusk in there and then and then Clerk's three, right,
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Speaker 3: and so i'ma go down the list the bracket style,
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Speaker 3: so first round and you have to pick one that
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Speaker 3: moves on to the end. We'll eventually get down to
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Speaker 3: one Kevin Smith movie, all done by your own votes.
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Speaker 2: So I mean, don't I don't sport. Ever, this sounds
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Speaker 2: like a sport thing like basketball for fake basketball, fantasy
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Speaker 2: football for fake So this is like that. Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 2: I'm seeing a grid in.
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Speaker 3: My head even as a kid. You never played sports, never, never,
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Speaker 3: not once.
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Speaker 2: I'm seeing is more based on a d C comics
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Speaker 2: group d C K bringing it down to the ultimate hero.
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Speaker 3: Alright, all right, so uh here we'll we'll start tough
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Speaker 3: round number one. Clerks O G. Clerks or Tusk.
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Speaker 2: That is tough man, because you're talking about two works
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Speaker 2: of striking originality, one a dent to the culture more
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Speaker 2: than the other.
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Speaker 3: Okay, but this is your own personal We're just talking you.
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Speaker 3: There's no considered nobody else's opinion. This is just Kevin Smith.
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Speaker 3: Kevin Smith movies.
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Speaker 2: Like which movie could I watch more?
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Speaker 3: Whichever? Like like again, this is which whichever one? Only
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Speaker 3: one can move on? Which you saving?
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, now you put it like that, no pressure. Well,
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Speaker 2: I mean, Clerk's Humble Bragg is in the Library of Congresses.
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Speaker 2: It's protected and the motion picture fault, so.
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Speaker 3: This has no consequence on anything. Just so you know,
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Speaker 3: it's like, I just wanted to.
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Speaker 2: Say that anyone didn't know that the government has deemed
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Speaker 2: my first film sotant that you protected if you.
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Speaker 3: Went with They're not going to take Clerks out the ibrary.
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Speaker 2: Congress true as well. With this administration, you never know.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna go old school. I'm gonna
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Speaker 2: go clerks Man clerks, long live the nineties, gen X
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Speaker 2: forever now menace.
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Speaker 4: I can't remember if you like or hate the word zeitgeistist.
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Speaker 3: I know you've used it a few times, but no, I.
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Speaker 2: Just learned about it, like maybe a year ago. Right,
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Speaker 2: that's why you're mad. I'm so mad. I haven't had
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Speaker 2: this word, this word.
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Speaker 4: But out in the zeitgeist. I feel like Tusk makes
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Speaker 4: so many lists, gets talked about so much because it's
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Speaker 4: written about so much, because it's so disturbing and weird
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Speaker 4: your lips.
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Speaker 2: To God's ears. I hope that's the case. I know
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Speaker 2: it is found an audience and found respect that was
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Speaker 2: not there on opening day. I assure you. I read
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Speaker 2: those reviews. They're pretty unkind. But yeah, I as much
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Speaker 2: as I love Tusk, I gotta go old school Clerks.
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Speaker 2: I can't get nowhere without it.
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Speaker 3: Other first round matchup, Malrats. Mal Rats are clerks to Marats.
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Speaker 2: I love Clerks too. Is my one of my favorite
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Speaker 2: films I've ever made. But mal Rats is a snapshot
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Speaker 2: of a time and place that now acts as a
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Speaker 2: kind of a historical document. Kids don't go to the
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Speaker 2: malls like that. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: True, Well Menace might argue that. Yeah, he'll argue that
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Speaker 3: the mall has happen. There are but and then there's
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Speaker 3: what you're talking about, a ghost town.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I've been to both. And it's like when we
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Speaker 2: were kids, you count on every weekend and mall being packed,
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Speaker 2: and now it's you know, scatter.
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Speaker 3: Shot Dogma or Zach and Mary make a porno Dogma
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Speaker 3: dog movie.
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Speaker 2: I really stood the Test of time also has like
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Speaker 2: I mean, not like Zach Mury doesn't have a pretty
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Speaker 2: all star cast with Seth and Elizabeth, but Dogma, come.
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Speaker 3: On, Alan Rick and George Carter, you got it back.
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Speaker 3: That was a whole battle, another battle to navigate.
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Speaker 2: So that's got the side quest to it. You're right,
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Speaker 2: long tail? Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Ago all right? Uh? Chasing Amy another one know Near
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Speaker 3: and Dear to your Heart or Clerks three, which you
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Speaker 3: put in there as your wild card.
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Speaker 2: I'm going Clerk's three. Okay. I love Chasing Amy, but
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Speaker 2: it has aged poorly for some folks. That's that movie
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Speaker 2: used to be the umbrella movie, the thing I could
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Speaker 2: always open up if things got bad, like, you know,
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Speaker 2: if they were like, eh, we made the Yogos are
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Speaker 2: like yeah, but at least he made Chasing. Yeah. But
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Speaker 2: there's a generation of folks who did not grow up
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Speaker 2: with that movie. That's see that movie as offensive now
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Speaker 2: and you can't really explain. You can try to explain,
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Speaker 2: but it won't really be accepted that it's like, hey,
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Speaker 2: this movie was incredibly advanced for its time, Like when
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Speaker 2: it came out, it was very ahead of it.
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Speaker 3: I don't like how people do that. Though you can't
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Speaker 3: correct the past, past films or songs or whatever.
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Speaker 2: It is totally, but I you know, I also don't
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Speaker 2: want to jump on that train because then you got people. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: and that's why I love Birth of the Nation.
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying Kevin Smith on Kevin Smith movies. Next round,
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Speaker 3: Clerks or mall rats Clerks, Clerks, Yeah, clerks three or
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Speaker 3: Dogma dogma. Now in the final Clerks or Dogma, only
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Speaker 3: one can stand.
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Speaker 2: It's the way it should be. Honestly, we always knew
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Speaker 2: it was gonna.
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Speaker 3: Come down to this clerks dogma.
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Speaker 2: See I want to say dogma. But in the off
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Speaker 2: chance that Jesus is real, I can't risk that. You know,
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Speaker 2: I don't want to go up to have them. But
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Speaker 2: I remember the time he was on the Woody Show.
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Speaker 2: You said Dogma was your best word. You go to hell.
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Speaker 2: Dogma is a wonderful original movie. But at the end
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Speaker 2: of the day, uh, it's It's the Wizard of Oz
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Speaker 2: dressed up. Clerks is my magic trick. Clerks is the
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Speaker 2: equivalent of me pulling a quarter from behind your ear.
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Speaker 2: It never goes old. The amount of credibility that Tusk
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Speaker 2: has afforded me is immense in retrospect. However, the amount
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Speaker 2: of credibility that Clerks has afforded me over a lifetime.
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Speaker 2: It's just one of those things that like, because everyone
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Speaker 2: has had a crappy job, even if they haven't worked
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Speaker 2: in a convenience store. I think winds up being the
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Speaker 2: most identifiable thing I've ever done. And I did it
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Speaker 2: when I was a part of everybody else. Now like
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Speaker 2: I'm a filmmaker for a living. I breathe verified air
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Speaker 2: and so, and my movies are like, you know what
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Speaker 2: if Jane solid Bob went to Mars but back then,
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Speaker 2: boots on the ground, I was behind that same counter.
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Speaker 2: So I was essaying life behind the counter through you know,
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Speaker 2: a fictional filter. So that movie I think has the
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Speaker 2: most authenticity to it. And it's the one that, let's
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Speaker 2: be honest, on my gravestone will be like, yeah he
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Speaker 2: made Clerks. Got to mention the other one. Still do
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Speaker 2: that one.
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Speaker 3: So there you go, guys, Clerks.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we always knew. Was there a doubt? Did you
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Speaker 2: think for a second?
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Speaker 3: I wasn't sure because I mean, I mean, there's so
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Speaker 3: many movies that have had such a you know, impact
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Speaker 3: just on you personally, or the stories that kind of
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Speaker 3: go behind it for whatever reason.
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Speaker 2: And uh, the one is the the lever upon which
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Speaker 2: the fulcrum of my entire career rest. Sure, so it
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Speaker 2: makes sense always going to be Clerks. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Somebody said, I own a DVD copy of Dogma. It's
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Speaker 3: my comfort movie.
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Speaker 2: Thank you recent recent purchase perhaps or the old dvd? Uh?
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Speaker 3: In that movie Atlantis Moore set one of Sammy's favorites.
17:46
Speaker 3: Do you have any good Yeah? Do you have any
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Speaker 3: good Atlantis Moore set of stories from.
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Speaker 2: Here that time? I mean it's not great Atlanta story,
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Speaker 2: but it is like a real Atlanta story. So we're
17:59
Speaker 2: we're in in post on Dogma and she's getting ready
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Speaker 2: to write the song that closes out Dogma. It's called
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Speaker 2: Still really Beautiful. So I go see her perform and
18:12
Speaker 2: it was in Manhattan. I forget which venue. I remember
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Speaker 2: seeing her out here at the Universal Amphitheater before that
18:18
Speaker 2: went away. I can't remember where I saw her. There
18:20
Speaker 2: might have been the zig Field or something like that.
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Speaker 2: So I went to see her the night before. I was,
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Speaker 2: you know, purst in the crowd. I had pretty good
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Speaker 2: tickets because I knew her. So then I went to
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Speaker 2: her hotel the next day and she was gonna play
18:33
Speaker 2: the song still for me for the first time. So
18:36
Speaker 2: I get to her room and she's like, how was
18:39
Speaker 2: the show? I said, Oh my god, I thought you
18:41
Speaker 2: were awesome. I said, but you should talk more. I said,
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Speaker 2: like between songs, like you would just say the name
18:47
Speaker 2: of the song and then you go into it. But like,
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Speaker 2: you're so interesting, you should.
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Speaker 3: A little storytellers, remember storytellers.
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Speaker 2: That's what I was pushing. But she like then she
18:56
Speaker 2: was like oh, and then we continue having a conversation.
18:59
Speaker 2: But she's the kind of person that, like, you know,
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Speaker 2: if it, if it means something, she could come back.
19:04
Speaker 2: She's very authentic, so After like two minutes of further conversation,
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Speaker 2: she went back to it. She was like, you know what, Kevin,
19:09
Speaker 2: that really hurt my feelings. I was like, what did
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Speaker 2: She's like when you said that I should be speaking
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Speaker 2: more between songs, She's going like, it just felt critical,
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Speaker 2: and I was like, I honestly to be critical. I
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Speaker 2: just like, I think you're interesting as hell, And I
19:23
Speaker 2: was just I guess I was just thinking if I
19:25
Speaker 2: was the one singing, I'd be doing more talking than
19:27
Speaker 2: anything else. But she that like it hit her in
19:31
Speaker 2: some way, like maybe she fell that was explaining more.
19:36
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, it is what you gotta do. Meanwhile,
19:38
Speaker 2: she's got like one of the greatest highest selling albums
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Speaker 2: of all time, and the guy who made mall rats
19:44
Speaker 2: you know what you gotta do? You go, And I
19:48
Speaker 2: remember that.
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Speaker 3: Think about that.
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Speaker 2: Whenever I see somebody after a performance, I never tell
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Speaker 2: them the truth. Ken, When was the last time you
19:58
Speaker 2: saw Alanison concert? Let me see the last time I
20:02
Speaker 2: saw Lamba's play?
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Speaker 3: Because then again, yes, so I yeah, I just saw
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Speaker 3: her recently.
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Speaker 4: She talks so much between songs and now she even
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Speaker 4: has shut up.
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna take credit for it. But perhaps that
20:22
Speaker 2: you know, stuck in her crow forever. She's like, I'll
20:24
Speaker 2: show him, but I have seen like online because people
20:28
Speaker 2: shoot content her just like holding a four minute.
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Speaker 3: Full on play in between songs.
20:34
Speaker 2: I love that. She was so so well spoken. So
20:40
Speaker 2: it's like to me, I wasn't saying like you're doing
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Speaker 2: it wrong. I was just like, I would love it
20:44
Speaker 2: if you just talk between songs. Years later, I was,
20:47
Speaker 2: you know, I grew up in Jersey, so Springsteen's in
20:50
Speaker 2: the blood whether you choose him or not. Right, But
20:52
Speaker 2: I went to see Springsteen on Broadway when he was
20:55
Speaker 2: doing that show years ago, and that I was like,
20:59
Speaker 2: now I've been sleeping on Springsteen my whole life because
21:01
Speaker 2: never mind the songs, like the songs I'd heard my
21:03
Speaker 2: whole life, he just talked between each one and he
21:07
Speaker 2: was so damn entertaining. I was like, where this guy
21:10
Speaker 2: gets it? And then I'm like, oh, because he's been
21:11
Speaker 2: in front of audiences for decades now. His storytelling was
21:16
Speaker 2: like unparallel.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I dig it. I dig it. When there's like
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Speaker 3: you kind of get the story behind the story, the
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Speaker 3: story behind the song, the song that you know, like
21:25
Speaker 3: how all then you it all ties together, like there
21:28
Speaker 3: was an old radio guy and uh, and that's the
21:31
Speaker 3: rest of the story. Remember that guy. Yeah, what's what's
21:36
Speaker 3: his name? Steve Harvey, Steve Harvey, not Steve Harvey, Harvey Harvey,
21:43
Speaker 3: God damn and the rest of the story. Yeah, it's
21:49
Speaker 3: a damn hard Carvey bitch. That's a flailing good day.
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Speaker 2: Boundaries, boundaries.
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Speaker 3: That guy was a storyteller everything. But you have this
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Speaker 3: thing and all of a sudden, like whoa, there's like
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Speaker 3: that yeah, wow moment.
22:09
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's some pretty cool that are like, I
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Speaker 2: don't want to hear nobody, so I want to hear
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Speaker 2: the songs. I'm there to rock out or I'm there
22:15
Speaker 2: to dance and stuff, And I understand that, But for
22:17
Speaker 2: you know me, I'm more of like, who invented it?
22:19
Speaker 2: What made it work? What is the story beyond that? Well?
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Speaker 3: Kevin Smith signing his new comic Jays of Future Past
22:26
Speaker 3: He and and Jason Muse Jay and Silent Bob at
22:30
Speaker 3: the Weed Shop seventy ninety five Hollywood Boulevard. This is
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Speaker 3: tomorrow at four pm.
22:36
Speaker 2: Uh.
22:36
Speaker 3: They also have his new marijuana products, the behm the
22:39
Speaker 3: Banana Hammock. I still smell in the study. Yeah, kids,
22:45
Speaker 3: very and more about with me can be found on
22:49
Speaker 3: our social media also Kevin Smith's social media. Now, Kevin,
22:53
Speaker 3: before you go, yes, are you open for one more
22:55
Speaker 3: ninety second round? I?
22:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel in real test subject, feel like
23:03
Speaker 2: a rabbit.
23:03
Speaker 3: We're digging in. We're digging in.
23:05
Speaker 2: Here with any game. I'm a game player.
23:07
Speaker 3: Here here we are? All right, Kevin? Would you rather
23:09
Speaker 3: be in a small group or a big crowd?
23:12
Speaker 2: Big crowd?
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Speaker 3: Uh?
23:14
Speaker 2: So?
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Speaker 3: Do you plan ahead or do you wing it?
23:16
Speaker 2: Wing it?
23:18
Speaker 3: Introvert or extrovert?
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Speaker 2: Good question. I think I'm an introvert who forces himself
23:24
Speaker 2: to be an extrovert through his job.
23:25
Speaker 3: Same Rewatch a favorite or discover something new?
23:29
Speaker 2: Watch a favorite?
23:32
Speaker 3: Are you an optimist or a realist?
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Speaker 2: Optimist?
23:37
Speaker 3: Would you uh rather be understood or be remembered?
23:47
Speaker 2: Be remembered, be remembered.
23:50
Speaker 3: Would you rather direct Batman or direct a Batman? Or
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Speaker 3: direct a Star Wars film?
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Speaker 2: Batman?
23:57
Speaker 3: Batman?
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Speaker 2: It doesn't take as much imagination. BI guy have enough
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Speaker 2: imagination to pull off the Star Wars let.
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Speaker 3: Alone at that, but with the right amount of banana hammock.
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Speaker 3: I think maybe true?
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Speaker 2: Do it?
24:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're one last question. Would you rather follow
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Speaker 3: your passion or follow your talent?
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Speaker 2: I think my passion because I don't even after all
24:16
Speaker 2: this time, I still don't even know what my talent is.
24:18
Speaker 2: I think I'm a really good foosball player, but I
24:21
Speaker 2: didn't manage to turn that into Yeah, you know what
24:24
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: Kevin Smith, everybody.
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Speaker 2: Blager always be man more ninety second games.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thanks, I appreciate you coming in, thanks for
24:35
Speaker 3: having and thanks for thanks for playing along with us.
24:38
Speaker 3: I appreciate that the voyage of the game right the.
24:42
Speaker 2: Show changed today in a way pivot. When the moment.
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Speaker 3: Happened, you weren't You were part of it.
24:47
Speaker 2: Talk about years from now though, Remember when they didn't
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Speaker 2: do the ninety second more?
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Speaker 3: What he shows next
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Speaker 2: The show