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O's fall to 7 games below .500, but Mike Elias hopes to be buyers · Birdland Territory

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Speaker 1: A good start, but not a good ending to the
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Speaker 1: Orioles weekend. They beat the Nationals Friday night and you're
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Speaker 1: hoping that's a great start to a homestand where they
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Speaker 1: nearly really need to rip off some victories here, but
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Speaker 1: then they lose the next two and this stat.
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Speaker 2: Birdland won't like.
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Speaker 1: The Oriols are three and nine the last two years
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Speaker 1: against the Washington Nationals. They've now gone six straight series
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Speaker 1: without winning one against a team they used to own.
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Speaker 1: They're no longer doing that. Welcome in Birdland Territory, Steve,
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Speaker 1: Tim and Brad. Before we get in some of the
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Speaker 1: specifics of the games this weekend, we want to touch
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Speaker 1: on Michael Elias's pregame dugout press conference with the media Saturday.
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Speaker 1: I was there for that. He took about twelve or
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Speaker 1: thirteen minutes worth of questions. As fans had probably seen
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Speaker 1: the quotes by now read them or viewed them. He
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Speaker 1: pledged that the Orioles expect to and are planning to
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Speaker 1: be buyers at the deadline. He did counch it with
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Speaker 1: we'll see the standings and more has to play out,
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Speaker 1: and we're not at the deadline yet. That's August third,
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Speaker 1: so the Orioles could play their way into something different
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Speaker 1: than that. But when the time he spoke, they were
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Speaker 1: a game and a half out of the wild card
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Speaker 1: and it's encouraging to hear they want to buy and
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Speaker 1: be buyers, but right now this team as zho and two.
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Speaker 1: Since he made those comments ironically, and what did you
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Speaker 1: guys make of Elias's comments?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it's encouraging for this team's
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Speaker 3: you know, prospects and what he envisions happening with this team,
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Speaker 3: and for the fans to be excited about that. It
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Speaker 3: just kind of goes back to the inconsistency and it's
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Speaker 3: we still have a month to go. So it's great
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Speaker 3: to hear him in it now, but I mean a
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Speaker 3: lot and change in the standings and where this team
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Speaker 3: is at come a month from now. But I would
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Speaker 3: definitely take it as an encouraging thing. I think when
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Speaker 3: the GM comes out and makes the bold statements saying
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Speaker 3: that they want to be sellers or buyers and they
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Speaker 3: want to, you know, compete for the playoffs, it's always
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Speaker 3: an encouraging thing as a fan, and especially with players
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Speaker 3: on the team, you want to be a part of
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Speaker 3: a winning team. And when the GM comes out makes
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Speaker 3: statements like that, I think it kind of puts the
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Speaker 3: pressure back on that this team was supposed to win,
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Speaker 3: They were supposed to be competitive, and he's just kind
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Speaker 3: of re emphasizing that point. And I think it's it's
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Speaker 3: kind of go time. We've talked about it last week.
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Speaker 3: It's just it's got to be go time. There's got
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Speaker 3: to be a sense of urgency. And I think it
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Speaker 3: kind of ticks it up even more of a level
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Speaker 3: when the GM comes up and makes a statement like that.
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Speaker 4: I wasn't surprised at all that he made those comments,
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Speaker 4: and he had even acknowledged that, yeah, this team's under
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Speaker 4: five hundred. But at that point Friday, there were just
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Speaker 4: a game and a half out of it. So of
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Speaker 4: course you would look to buy if the deadline was then.
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Speaker 4: And you also got to consider the specter guys that
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Speaker 4: Michael Oas has been under a lot of heat.
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Speaker 5: Recently, and you know he needs to make a move to.
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Speaker 4: Possibly save his job at this point, you know, if
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Speaker 4: this team doesn't continue to pick it up. But right now,
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Speaker 4: I'm with you, Brad, it does put the pressure back
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Speaker 4: on the players because you know, we keep saying it.
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Speaker 4: You gotta start stacking wins. You gotta start stacking series wins.
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Speaker 4: And this seemed like a prime spot for this team
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Speaker 4: to go on a run. Where heading into Friday, twelve
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Speaker 4: of their last fifteen games, we're at Camden Yards heading
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Speaker 4: into the All Star break.
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Speaker 5: You gotta win a lot of them, man, and.
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Speaker 4: And you lost to the first series of this bunch,
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Speaker 4: and now you go back their last seven series, Steve,
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Speaker 4: they're won five and one in their last seventh series
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Speaker 4: they beat Yeah, beating the Dodgers, of course. Yeah, but
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Speaker 4: you gotta find a way to build some momentum heading
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Speaker 4: into the All Star break.
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Speaker 5: And this was not the start that you wanted.
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Speaker 1: So I just asked about buyers or sellers. This quote
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Speaker 1: was I really hope. So we are planning that way
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Speaker 1: to be buyers in case it's the case. But I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna have to look at the circumstances and what happens,
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Speaker 1: and I'll be doing the right thing for the franchise
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Speaker 1: regardless of everything else. We're gonna have to see what
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Speaker 1: the standings are and what our team is looking like
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Speaker 1: at that time. But we're certainly making those preparations. Everyone
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Speaker 1: in this building is in the mindset of going for
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Speaker 1: it in twenty twenty six, We're going for it. I'll
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Speaker 1: let you know if that changes. And Tommy later was asked, essentially,
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Speaker 1: you know, with your job maybe writing a bit here,
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Speaker 1: is that going to impact what you do with this deadline?
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Speaker 2: And I read his comments to say no.
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Speaker 1: He was kind of saying, I need to do, as
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Speaker 1: the steward of the baseball ops, what's best for the
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Speaker 1: future of the Orioles.
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Speaker 2: And so he has bosses answer too as well.
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Speaker 1: They may tell him this is what we want you
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Speaker 1: to do, and then he has to go do what
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Speaker 1: his bosses want or quit his job.
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Speaker 2: I guess. So this is really a tricky situation.
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Speaker 1: Now, the Orioles have, as far as I can tell,
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Speaker 1: four pending free agents. They're they're in their walk year
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Speaker 1: Taylor Ward, Trevor Rodgers, Chris Bassett, Kegan Aiken. Oh, by
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Speaker 1: the way, Adlee Rutchman can be afragient at the end
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Speaker 1: up next year. So if their teams come to them
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Speaker 1: looking for their rentals, those are players who could be rentals.
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Speaker 1: Some Royal fans will cringe your trading. Trevor Rodgers. He's
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Speaker 1: pitching so well right now, Look how good he looks,
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Speaker 1: but those are some names that could be out there'd
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Speaker 1: be interesting to see.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, I think it's those names are right up there,
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Speaker 3: and I think when you're looking at a starting pitcher,
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Speaker 3: Trevor Rodgers is getting hot at the right time. And
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Speaker 3: I just feel like, if nothing happens in the next
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Speaker 3: couple of weeks, I feel like he's going to be
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Speaker 3: your one trade ship outside of Adlee, which I don't
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Speaker 3: think the organization would be willing to part with. I
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Speaker 3: just find that really hard to believe. But he's the
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Speaker 3: one guy that you don't know if you're gonna be
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Speaker 3: able to resign or maybe you can resign after the year,
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Speaker 3: but you get something for him right now. It's just
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Speaker 3: it just puts everybody in a tough spot, and it's
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Speaker 3: nobody wants to be part of a team. I know.
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Speaker 3: I've been in clubhouses where that happens, and it's just
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Speaker 3: it stinks. You don't want to see your friends, you
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Speaker 3: want to see your teammates. Like I said, on a
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Speaker 3: team going into spring training, you expected to compete and
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Speaker 3: be buyers at this deadline. So it's just kind of
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Speaker 3: just it's crunched time now and it's really coming down
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Speaker 3: to the wire where they might have to make some
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Speaker 3: tough decisions that fans and guys in the clubhouse don't
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Speaker 3: want to see happen.
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Speaker 4: I think that's what makes this really tough is because
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Speaker 4: that's exactly what happened in the clubhouse last year at
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Speaker 4: this time, and you were expecting that to just be
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Speaker 4: a one off type situation. All right, let's restock the farm,
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Speaker 4: let's be more aggressive in the off season, which they
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Speaker 4: were signing Peede and bringing in Bos and Dassett and
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Speaker 4: Hellsley and so on and so forth. But the results
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Speaker 4: just haven't been there. And what's going in their favor
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Speaker 4: is the fact that maybe this is just an anomaly
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Speaker 4: of a season for the American League in.
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Speaker 5: Eighty two, eighty three, eighty.
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Speaker 4: Four wins, so where around that mark ends up getting
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Speaker 4: it done in the AL And that's what's kind of
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Speaker 4: kept you even in the mix. If this was a
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Speaker 4: normal year, maybe the Oriols are so far out of it,
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Speaker 4: you know, we're not even entertaining this buying portion. But
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Speaker 4: it isn't a normal year, so they still have opportunities
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Speaker 4: in front of them, but you're running out of time, guys,
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Speaker 4: August third, you were coming up on a month. They
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Speaker 4: have to go on a run and it has to
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Speaker 4: start now.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and really you can in baseball my experience with
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Speaker 1: this deadline, if the deadline's August third, some teams wanting
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Speaker 1: to be making their decisions till July twentieth or July
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Speaker 1: twenty fifth, then they got a week to make the calls.
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Speaker 1: Some of the calls will have already been made, they'll
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Speaker 1: have the lay of the land. Then they'll get serious.
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Speaker 1: And here's the scenario.
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Speaker 2: What if the.
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Speaker 1: Oriols do both. What if they get a write offer
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Speaker 1: for Taylor Ward or somebody who's a rental and they say,
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Speaker 1: we got to make that move, but yet this team.
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Speaker 1: We can get a arting pitcher from this team, and
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Speaker 1: here's what it would take, and we're gonna make that move.
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Speaker 1: I've seen that happen before, where you see a little
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Speaker 1: of each Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And I think that. I think when you look at
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Speaker 3: this team and the way it's comprised, you have ninety
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Speaker 3: five percent of the roster coming back next year in
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Speaker 3: a contract, So I think that would make sense if
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Speaker 3: you get the right offer. I just it's just I
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Speaker 3: think it's for me it's watching the inconsistency of the
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Speaker 3: play on the field that just seems to me. It's
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Speaker 3: like you say one thing, but the team isn't telling
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Speaker 3: you the other, If that makes any sense. It just
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Speaker 3: kind of seems like it's not adding up. For whatever reason.
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Speaker 3: We've talked about this roster over and over and over again.
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Speaker 3: It's a winning roster, but it's just not showing up
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Speaker 3: on the field. And to me, at this point, if
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Speaker 3: you get an offer that you feel is going to
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Speaker 3: help you for next year, I just feel like you
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Speaker 3: gotta make it because nothing is seeming adding up this year.
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Speaker 3: Like you said, it's just been a crazy, weird year
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Speaker 3: that nothing seems to make sense. So who knows, maybe
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Speaker 3: if you got rid of somebody, they come over and
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Speaker 3: all sudden you start winning games, you get back in.
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Speaker 3: I don't, it's just a it's been a crazy season
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Speaker 3: so far of this year.
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Speaker 4: I'm sort of leaning with you, Brad, like maybe you
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Speaker 4: do a little bit of buying, but you know, based
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Speaker 4: on what the team has shown you, it doesn't look
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Speaker 4: like it's a piece away. It doesn't look like a
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Speaker 4: couple impact players away. I mean, you're seven games below
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Speaker 4: five hundred at this point, but I think something that
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Speaker 4: is abundantly clear, and Stevie kind of referenced it. Adley
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Speaker 4: Rutchman's been the name, and you know he's been brought
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Speaker 4: up a lot in recent weeks. And Michael Ias, I
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Speaker 4: thought his statement was very strong when asked about Adley Rutchman,
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Speaker 4: saying that we wish our commitment was even longer than this.
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Speaker 4: I'm paraphrasing. He didn't outright say this, But I don't
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Speaker 4: think they're looking to move Adley Rutchman. I'm sure if
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Speaker 4: it gets to that point, there's going to be calls,
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Speaker 4: but based on what Michael Lias was saying Friday, I
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Speaker 4: do not believe they are going to move Adley Rutchman.
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Speaker 2: Birdland. It will be Deel.
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Speaker 1: Even though the Orders have a little using record right
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Speaker 1: now and there's seven games under again after this lost
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Speaker 1: Sunday to the Nats. Season worst was eight, so they're
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Speaker 1: trending in a bad direction. They're still in the race
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Speaker 1: because the American League is so bad. Mathematically, they're a
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Speaker 1: contender in any other way, are they? They don't seem
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Speaker 1: to be telling us that mathematically, yes, the math can work.
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Speaker 1: So we'll see how these next few weeks play out,
10:24
Speaker 1: how the Oils play their way in or out, what
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Speaker 1: rumors come, and we will be here to talk about
10:28
Speaker 1: all of it through the next five to six weeks.
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10:35
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Speaker 2: So the oil is looser than that.
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Speaker 1: Sunday six to four, they lose the series, and Tim,
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Speaker 1: you mentioned the series and I just went back over
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Speaker 1: the last five.
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Speaker 2: You went back a little further than me.
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Speaker 1: So one and two against the Padres, one and two
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Speaker 1: against the Mariners, two and one against the Dodgers, one
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Speaker 1: and two against the Angels, one and two against the Gnats.
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Speaker 1: Definition of inconsistency. One in four beating the best team
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Speaker 1: in baseball, losing to the other four they played six
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Speaker 1: and nine record going the wrong way seven games under
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Speaker 1: three and nine against the Gnats. I'm not going to
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Speaker 1: give me more of these stats. We don't depress everybody
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Speaker 1: watching this broadcast right now. But it's not great, and
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Speaker 1: so what can we can't make it up or you know,
12:42
Speaker 1: try to spin you on this. So let's talk about
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Speaker 1: Kyle Bradish today. This was a strange outing for him.
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Speaker 1: He comes into this outing having allowed one run the
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Speaker 1: last two games with twenty one strikeouts.
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Speaker 2: He was dominant.
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Speaker 1: He was rolling two seven eighty e ras last nine.
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Speaker 1: He only gave up one hit today, but he walked
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Speaker 1: five and allowed four runs three, earned lowest strike percentage
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Speaker 1: of his career forty seven percent. Was this an outlier
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Speaker 1: brand or should we be concerned?
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Speaker 3: To me, I think it's an outlier. I just think
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Speaker 3: that last week his stuff was out of this world,
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Speaker 3: and I think the Nats kind of came into it
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Speaker 3: with a keep them in the zone, and I think
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Speaker 3: they just kind of tried to zone in on where
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Speaker 3: they thought his pitches might start and where they might
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Speaker 3: end up. And you got to give them credit because
13:27
Speaker 3: they did not chase like we saw them do in
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Speaker 3: Anaheim and in Seattle last road trip. So it's I
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Speaker 3: think it was just one of those things where they
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Speaker 3: stuck to their game plan and they were going to
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Speaker 3: make them throw strikes and they really made them do that.
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Speaker 3: But it's just amazing to me again, two outs, nobody
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Speaker 3: on and gives up the three runs in the third inning.
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Speaker 3: It's just unbelievable across the staff how that seems to
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Speaker 3: have happened. And two out walks has always been a
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Speaker 3: baseball saying, when you, especially with nobody on, you got
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Speaker 3: to attack the zone. And to me today it just
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Speaker 3: seemed like he just needed to be a little bit
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Speaker 3: more aggressive, getting strike one and just going after these guys.
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Speaker 3: This stuff is so good, he doesn't need to get
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Speaker 3: the swing and miss all the time. I just felt
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Speaker 3: like he was kind of really living to the edges
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Speaker 3: with his fastball, and then from there he got behind.
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Speaker 3: And then we know he has trouble landing his breaking
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Speaker 3: balls when he has to in his zone. And it's
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Speaker 3: kind of just a recipe for kind of what happened today.
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Speaker 3: But I think it's just an outlier. It could just
14:19
Speaker 3: be running into a little bit of tiredness. Like we
14:20
Speaker 3: talked about, he's creeping up on one hundred innings through
14:23
Speaker 3: thirty something innings last year in the big leagues. It's
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Speaker 3: a lot on somebody, and he's been rolling so much.
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Speaker 3: Those seven eight inning outings really start to add up
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Speaker 3: when you compound them outing after outing, So to me,
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be too worried about it. I think it's
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Speaker 3: just one of kind of one of those outings. He'll
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Speaker 3: move on and from here, but definitely not what you
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Speaker 3: really wanted to see there the four innings and when
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Speaker 3: they really needed a big one, it just kind of
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Speaker 3: got away from him there pretty quick.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's kind of just easy difference. You know,
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Speaker 4: from last time to this time. He just pounded the
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Speaker 4: strike zone last time out and he got strike one
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Speaker 4: where he was behind more often than not. You know,
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Speaker 4: first pitch strike percentage forty seven percent today. I think
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Speaker 4: it was sixty five percent in his last start. And
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Speaker 4: Steve you mentioned just the lack of strikes in general,
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Speaker 4: and we know that Kyle Bradish he struggled with walks
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Speaker 4: at certain points.
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Speaker 5: This year for sure.
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Speaker 4: But you know, Brad you mentioned that two out walks
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Speaker 4: walks will kill you, and he had five of them today.
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Speaker 4: Obviously some shaky defense in between, Colden Kwser playing out
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Speaker 4: of his mind defensively, but you know, Samuel Bassio was
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Speaker 4: at first base, Kobe Mayo kind of a shaky game
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Speaker 4: for him at third base. Just look, give credits to
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Speaker 4: the Mats like Brad's that's the top scoring offense in baseball,
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Speaker 4: and for the first couple of games the Orioles did
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Speaker 4: a good job of really shutting that offense down.
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Speaker 5: But they woke up today.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, this surprised me with Bradish.
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Speaker 1: He came in with eleven and two thirds consecutive scoreless
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Speaker 1: and by the way he kind of rolled through the
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Speaker 1: first two innings, it looked like what he you've been
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Speaker 1: seeing was continuing today against a real good hitting team,
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Speaker 1: as in that's improve and we've seen it this year
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Speaker 1: and just kind of lost it.
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Speaker 2: It's very strange.
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Speaker 1: Now here's my innings concern, and this has been hanging
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Speaker 1: over this team since the winner.
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Speaker 2: We've known it.
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Speaker 1: Bradish last year through fifty four total innings counting minor
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Speaker 1: league re hat fifty four, he's now at ninety three.
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Speaker 1: We're about halfway through the year. So you double that
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Speaker 1: and see where he's going to end up that if
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Speaker 1: you want to be pitching in October. In addition to that,
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Speaker 1: that sounds like too many. I don't know what you think, Brad. Now,
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Speaker 1: I've heard people say in baseball, if you're a pitcher
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Speaker 1: who's thrown a lot of innings before and he has,
16:41
Speaker 1: it's not as crazy as it sounds to go from
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Speaker 1: fifty four innings to one seventy or something.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, it's I think it's more of a
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Speaker 3: performance fatigue than it would be like an injury fatigue
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Speaker 3: type thing. I think when you, I mean you basically
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Speaker 3: say over two years, he threw fifty something innings because
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Speaker 3: the year before it didn't throw any. Last year fifty,
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Speaker 3: now it's up to ninety something. I think at some
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Speaker 3: point it just kind of comes more of a performance fatigue,
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Speaker 3: and the performance kind of lacks because it is a
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Speaker 3: lot When you take almost two years off from pitching
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Speaker 3: completely and then now you're ninety something innings. You still
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Speaker 3: have half the season to go. I feel like it's
17:17
Speaker 3: a little daunting mentally, and it kind of you're not
17:19
Speaker 3: thinking about it, but at the same time it's in
17:21
Speaker 3: the back of your head. I luckily never had injuries
17:24
Speaker 3: in my career, but I know just talking to some
17:25
Speaker 3: guys who had gone through it, it's it's more of
17:27
Speaker 3: a mental hurdle than it is actually physically. You just
17:30
Speaker 3: kind of you almost feel things creeping up that aren't there.
17:34
Speaker 3: You kind of feel you're more tired than you actually are,
17:37
Speaker 3: and so I think it's kind of all these things
17:39
Speaker 3: kind of culminating as the weather gets warmer in Baltimore.
17:42
Speaker 3: We know the summer's coming in here pretty hot. So
17:44
Speaker 3: it's I think it's just kind of a combination of
17:47
Speaker 3: all those things, and you just got to hope that
17:49
Speaker 3: you can kind of get over that mental hurdle. But
17:50
Speaker 3: I just don't know what the number is that teams
17:53
Speaker 3: look for. I mean, is it one, twenty five, is
17:55
Speaker 3: at one point fifty? I know Steve, like you said,
17:57
Speaker 3: he's thrown a lot before. But I'm just curious if
17:59
Speaker 3: the Orioles, if they have this in their mind coming
18:02
Speaker 3: here soon.
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Speaker 4: I know we touched on it at the end of
18:06
Speaker 4: last episode, the possibility of a six man rotation at
18:09
Speaker 4: some point, and they're going to have to get creative
18:11
Speaker 4: that this team has a lot of off days. In July,
18:14
Speaker 4: they have four off days and that doesn't even count
18:16
Speaker 4: the All Star breaks, So a lot of downtime to
18:19
Speaker 4: where you can kind of mess with the schedule, skip
18:23
Speaker 4: a start however you want to do it. With Kyle
18:25
Speaker 4: Bradish but guys going a step further, the most amount
18:28
Speaker 4: of innings he's thrown in his career one hundred and
18:31
Speaker 4: sixty eight and two thirds. He's on pace to throw
18:33
Speaker 4: a career high in innings, a career high, which is
18:37
Speaker 4: pretty crazy coming off to Tommy Johns. So right now,
18:42
Speaker 4: the Orioles Wednesday starter is TBA.
18:45
Speaker 5: That would be Trevor Rodgers' term.
18:47
Speaker 4: A lot of people kind of pointing to Dean Kramer,
18:50
Speaker 4: who said Michael Ias said was very very close. He
18:54
Speaker 4: threw six and two thirds in his last rehab start,
18:57
Speaker 4: had eight strikeouts.
18:58
Speaker 5: He looked really, really good.
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Speaker 4: So maybe with the possibility of adding Dean Kramer on Wednesday,
19:05
Speaker 4: you can somehow mess around with this schedule for Kyle Bradish,
19:09
Speaker 4: because something's got to be done. I just for him
19:12
Speaker 4: to throw a career high in innings, I don't know
19:15
Speaker 4: if that's prudent and.
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Speaker 3: Steve not th interrupt I also think too, I think
19:20
Speaker 3: how they play in these next couple weeks mighty take
19:22
Speaker 3: how they use Bradish going through if you have to
19:25
Speaker 3: look forward to next year, because he throws about one
19:27
Speaker 3: hundred and forty this year, I think it's normally about
19:30
Speaker 3: twenty five percent, you feel okay. Adding on the next
19:33
Speaker 3: year forty percent, somewhere in that range I always remember hearing,
19:36
Speaker 3: so he gets about one hundred and forty next year,
19:38
Speaker 3: you feel way more comfortable if he's able to get
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Speaker 3: to one eighties. So I think these next couple weeks
19:42
Speaker 3: might determine where they what they try to do with
19:43
Speaker 3: Bradish moving forward from here too. So it's it's definitely
19:47
Speaker 3: there's a lot of layers to the trade deadline here
19:50
Speaker 3: coming up. I feel like just based on the team's
19:51
Speaker 3: performance moving forward, yes.
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Speaker 1: And in the specifics of Bradish's innings for this year,
19:57
Speaker 1: Olias has said, and this was not Saturday, didn't say yesterday,
20:00
Speaker 1: but you know, like the in the spring, in the winter,
20:03
Speaker 1: when this question came up, how much can you pitch
20:06
Speaker 1: this guy in twenty twenty six, Elias has always said
20:09
Speaker 1: something like, we have some thoughts on that, we have
20:12
Speaker 1: some plans on that. He's never revealed specifics so far,
20:16
Speaker 1: we haven't seen a six man. That doesn't mean we
20:18
Speaker 1: won't or can't. Trey Gibson could stay in and you
20:21
Speaker 1: add Dean Kramer and with off days now you spread
20:24
Speaker 1: people out, or they could skip him. All these a
20:27
Speaker 1: couple times. We haven't seen this in place yet doesn't
20:30
Speaker 1: mean it won't be, doesn't mean this is not in
20:33
Speaker 1: the team's thinking for the season. They got to be
20:35
Speaker 1: careful with this guy because they won him pitching for
20:38
Speaker 1: the Orioles at the top of that rotation for years
20:41
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Speaker 1: A couple stories on Michael ISAS's presser up there right
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Speaker 1: now on my substack. So, guys, this was a disappointing weekend,
22:49
Speaker 1: but I got to say credit to Pete Alonzo. He
22:52
Speaker 1: gave the team a lead today. This guy's been swinging
22:54
Speaker 1: it for the Oriols man. Here's the stat on him
22:57
Speaker 1: since April twenty one, he's among the RBI leaders in
23:00
Speaker 1: the major leagues. Yes, fifty since that slow start he
23:03
Speaker 1: had second in MLB. Gave him the lead today. A
23:07
Speaker 1: couple two run homers today, Haabey and Alonzo. He's doing
23:10
Speaker 1: everything he can to lead. He just needs some help.
23:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is exactly what you hope for
23:17
Speaker 3: when you've signed him. It's just kind of the positive
23:22
Speaker 3: of having a veteran like Pete in your lineup is
23:24
Speaker 3: he's going to put up the numbers that you expect
23:25
Speaker 3: throughout his career, and he's doing just that. He got
23:27
Speaker 3: off to the slow start, but he's been great since then,
23:30
Speaker 3: and I think he's added defense that they kind of
23:33
Speaker 3: was not expected. Has been even more of a plus.
23:36
Speaker 3: So it's just I think that's what makes it even
23:38
Speaker 3: more frustrating, is when you signed the big free agent,
23:41
Speaker 3: he's doing what you expect Homer wise, rbi wise, and
23:44
Speaker 3: the runs just aren't there, and it's just kind of
23:47
Speaker 3: you have to look up and down the lineup to
23:48
Speaker 3: wonder why is it kind of happening that way. They've
23:50
Speaker 3: tried moving them back to the four spot. He's been
23:52
Speaker 3: in three spot. It's just kind of playing with all
23:55
Speaker 3: these different things and it's just not it's just not
23:57
Speaker 3: adding up. And I think that's what makes it more frustrating.
24:00
Speaker 3: I think when you look at it because you're like, Okay,
24:02
Speaker 3: maybe Pete's having a bad year when you look at
24:03
Speaker 3: this team, how it's happening. But that hasn't been the case.
24:05
Speaker 3: He's doing exactly what they thought and expected and hoped for,
24:09
Speaker 3: and he's done. He's done a great job here in Berlin,
24:12
Speaker 3: and I think the fans are really gonna enjoy watching
24:14
Speaker 3: him from here through his contract. He's just been great.
24:18
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's flow start.
24:19
Speaker 4: From the first couple of weeks feels like an eternity
24:22
Speaker 4: ago for Pete Alonso Man because if you're looking at
24:25
Speaker 4: first half MVO, I think it's Pete.
24:29
Speaker 5: I really do.
24:30
Speaker 4: I mean, if you want to say Brandon Young for
24:32
Speaker 4: how consistent he was and or has been, and he
24:42
Speaker 4: leading the team in home runs our game so far
24:45
Speaker 4: this season, He's just been everything that you could have
24:48
Speaker 4: wanted after signing him to that big contract. And that's
24:51
Speaker 4: everything you know you'd expect that a Pete Alonzo. He's
24:55
Speaker 4: going to drive in over a hundred runs. He's going
24:57
Speaker 4: to hit close to forty home runs, if not more
25:00
Speaker 4: than forty home runs. And like you said, Brad, Pete
25:04
Speaker 4: coming here and was never known for his glove, but
25:07
Speaker 4: he's been a really pleasant surprise at first base. Defensively,
25:11
Speaker 4: he's been really really good this season.
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Speaker 1: And our fiveal minutes, I want to bring up something
25:16
Speaker 1: the Oriols did that was really nice last night. I
25:18
Speaker 1: was glad I was there to see it. I heard
25:20
Speaker 1: about it before it was coming so I could plan
25:23
Speaker 1: to watch it.
25:24
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Speaker 1: So pregame last night there was a neat, little quick ceremony.
25:52
Speaker 1: It happened fast. There was this young man named Declan
25:56
Speaker 1: under Armour as a sponsor for the Orioles and Gunner
25:59
Speaker 1: Henderson as an under Armor player. So anyway, under Armour
26:04
Speaker 1: found out this young man, Declin eleven years old, was
26:06
Speaker 1: born with a condition where his legs are not the
26:09
Speaker 1: same size. One is bigger than the other and he
26:12
Speaker 1: has to have special cleats made to even out his
26:15
Speaker 1: legs when he plays ball. He can't play ball without him,
26:19
Speaker 1: and it costs money and it takes time to get him.
26:21
Speaker 1: So under Armour had some special cleats made. Then they
26:24
Speaker 1: found out, well, baseball is this kid's favorite sport. Gunner
26:27
Speaker 1: Henderson's his favorite player, So they had Gunner come out
26:30
Speaker 1: last night present these cleats to Declan with his family
26:33
Speaker 1: on the field. It was really cool, man, and the
26:35
Speaker 1: kid just lit up. He was surprised. He didn't know
26:38
Speaker 1: Gunnar was going to be doing this for me. I
26:41
Speaker 1: just love to see ball players do that. I know, Brad,
26:43
Speaker 1: you were asked to do things in your career. When
26:46
Speaker 1: you play one hundred and sixty two games in travel
26:48
Speaker 1: like baseball players and I see them again, I'm not
26:52
Speaker 1: I don't want to oversell it here like I'm kissing
26:54
Speaker 1: up with these ballplayers. But when you play that schedule
26:56
Speaker 1: and you still have time because they'll do stuff away
26:59
Speaker 1: from the feet and then go play the game that night,
27:02
Speaker 1: that'll help somebody and make a kid smile or raise
27:05
Speaker 1: money or do something good. And I just thought that
27:08
Speaker 1: was very cool by the Oreos under Armor and Gunner.
27:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome. Stories like that are great, and I
27:14
Speaker 3: think it really helps put things into perspective. It really
27:17
Speaker 3: brings you back, It humbles yourself and you realize you're
27:20
Speaker 3: not just doing this for the team, You're doing it
27:22
Speaker 3: for the community. You're doing it for kids like deckling,
27:25
Speaker 3: you're doing it for the military with they do a
27:27
Speaker 3: lot of stuff at candy yards for the ex military
27:29
Speaker 3: members and stuff like that. Just really I always love
27:32
Speaker 3: getting involved with it because it just kind of brings
27:35
Speaker 3: you back into I'm gonna play kids game for fun,
27:38
Speaker 3: and it kind of just like I said, you're doing
27:40
Speaker 3: it for something bigger than you. You do it for
27:42
Speaker 3: the entire city and the community of Baltimore. And to me,
27:44
Speaker 3: that was the reason why I still to this day
27:47
Speaker 3: have so much high praise for the City of Baltimore
27:50
Speaker 3: and everything they do, because we don't have a team
27:52
Speaker 3: and we don't have a job if it's not for
27:54
Speaker 3: the city and the fans and stuff like that just
27:56
Speaker 3: kind of like is small examples of stuff that's done
27:59
Speaker 3: on a daily Like you said, Steve, there's multiple opportunities
28:02
Speaker 3: to go around the community and get involved, and it's
28:04
Speaker 3: great to see under Armour give back to the can
28:07
Speaker 3: have Gunner go out there and present the cleats and
28:09
Speaker 3: really give him just a thrill out there and stuff
28:12
Speaker 3: like that. Really it gave me chills as you were
28:13
Speaker 3: saying that, and it's it's really cool to hear those stories.
28:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's on social media, Tim. I don't know if
28:19
Speaker 1: you saw it, but go check out the Oriols social media.
28:22
Speaker 1: I put it in my substack too, and it's it's
28:24
Speaker 1: a it was just a neat thing. And someone from
28:26
Speaker 1: the Oriols told me a little ahead of time. They said,
28:28
Speaker 1: we got something really cool coming up. Make sure you're
28:30
Speaker 1: watching here in five minutes, this is gonna be really cool.
28:34
Speaker 1: And you know, it's just it's neat when that comes together.
28:37
Speaker 1: It didn't take much time out of Gunner's day or whatever.
28:40
Speaker 1: I know that, but still it took time for people
28:43
Speaker 1: to put that together to make that kid's day or
28:47
Speaker 1: year maybe.
28:48
Speaker 2: So that was pretty cool.
28:49
Speaker 4: And that's what I was gonna say, Steve, like, that's
28:51
Speaker 4: that's a lifelong memory for that kid. And he was
28:55
Speaker 4: interviewed on mass and you know, Rob Long was interviewing
28:58
Speaker 4: I think it was his dad and declan like it
29:01
Speaker 4: was really really neat. And obviously this team means so
29:05
Speaker 4: much to the city, and the Orioles have always been great,
29:08
Speaker 4: you know in terms of getting out about in the community.
29:11
Speaker 4: And heck, even going back to Pete Alonso, who we're
29:14
Speaker 4: just talking about him making that big donation to Barks
29:18
Speaker 4: the Animal Shelter at the beginning of the season. Like
29:21
Speaker 4: Adam Jones, I mean, gosh, how much did he do
29:24
Speaker 4: for the city of Baltimore. Chris Davis as well, for
29:27
Speaker 4: what children's hospitals He would just stop in, you know,
29:30
Speaker 4: and there's so much stuff that we don't even know about,
29:33
Speaker 4: right like that that some players will do and there
29:36
Speaker 4: doesn't have to be cameras there, and it just makes
29:39
Speaker 4: such a huge impact on people.
29:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cool that they do it.
29:45
Speaker 1: I'm always blown away by ballplayers as schedule, they keep
29:48
Speaker 1: as tired they must be, and then you'll you'll get
29:51
Speaker 1: a press release at ten this morning they went out
29:53
Speaker 1: and did something for Barks or that, you know, Chris Davis,
29:56
Speaker 1: all those visits to the children's hospital, and then they're
29:59
Speaker 1: coming to play that night and o the next day
30:00
Speaker 1: they got to fly to Minnesota, and it's like, man,
30:03
Speaker 1: I'm you know, the guy could just be laying in
30:05
Speaker 1: bed and who would blame him getting rest, But they're
30:07
Speaker 1: not doing that, and they're realizing their words and actions
30:10
Speaker 1: had this great impact. And the Oriels do it year
30:13
Speaker 1: round and the Ravens do it too.
30:15
Speaker 2: Man.
30:15
Speaker 1: They just look to do things in their community. They
30:17
Speaker 1: don't take for granted you're gonna like us, and they
30:20
Speaker 1: don't do it to make you like us. They just
30:22
Speaker 1: do it because it's the right thing to do, and
30:24
Speaker 1: that's the best reason to do things sometimes.
30:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, I think, like I said, that's one of
30:29
Speaker 3: the reasons why I love Baltimore so much, just because
30:32
Speaker 3: the Orils are involved in the community a lot, and
30:34
Speaker 3: we used to go to some schools which I went
30:35
Speaker 3: to college for education and so that was always really
30:38
Speaker 3: close to like my outside of baseball life, and I
30:43
Speaker 3: just love the opportunity to go and just talk to
30:45
Speaker 3: these kids.
30:45
Speaker 2: And I just.
30:46
Speaker 3: Imagine if I was in that. I try to put
30:48
Speaker 3: myself in those kids spot. And if it doesn't matter
30:50
Speaker 3: who I know, most of the kids I don't know
30:52
Speaker 3: who I was, But the fact that an Oriel came
30:55
Speaker 3: to my school talk to me about education or this
30:58
Speaker 3: or that, it would just it brings me back to
31:00
Speaker 3: being a fan. And I think that's what some players
31:02
Speaker 3: forget sometimes, is that you started as a fan and
31:05
Speaker 3: it could be from meeting one guy that inspired you
31:08
Speaker 3: to go on to go even if you don't make
31:10
Speaker 3: the big leagues, you play the minor leagues, or you
31:11
Speaker 3: get involved with your you know, the Orioles or whatever
31:14
Speaker 3: team that's in your city. And I think a lot
31:16
Speaker 3: of times as players, we forget that when we're going
31:18
Speaker 3: through the season, and those little opportunities to go into
31:21
Speaker 3: the community really brings you back into bringing you back
31:24
Speaker 3: to being that little kid. Or the fan again that
31:26
Speaker 3: saw these guys, and those guys are now one of
31:29
Speaker 3: your heroes growing up or one of your favorite players
31:31
Speaker 3: going up. And I think that's it kind of just
31:32
Speaker 3: really makes a complete three sixty circle when it comes
31:35
Speaker 3: to those things. And that's why Baltimore the Orioles do
31:38
Speaker 3: a great job in the community. I feel like.
31:41
Speaker 1: That day you became those kids' favorite player. They know
31:45
Speaker 1: they remember you to this day because you did something
31:47
Speaker 1: that was cool with them. So hey, thanks for the
31:51
Speaker 1: Oriols for doing that. Enjoyed another one with you, guys,
31:54
Speaker 1: even though the results were at the great is what
31:56
Speaker 1: we're looking for and coming up here soon you're going
31:59
Speaker 1: to be watching in this space and on Birdland territory.
32:02
Speaker 1: Jim Kallos the Great Jim Kallas, my longtime friend. No
32:06
Speaker 1: one does the draft better than Jim. He'll check in
32:08
Speaker 1: with us. A lot of fans really get excited about
32:10
Speaker 1: MLB Draft time. The Oriols have the number seven pick
32:14
Speaker 1: at the All Star break. It's going to be on
32:16
Speaker 1: Saturday this year, the first round in the day. This
32:18
Speaker 1: is different, So we'll talk all about that and other
32:21
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