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White Sox SP Shane Smith on his journey from Rule 5 pick to All-Star, Plans for offseason and 2026 · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Shane Smith, right hander for the Chicago White Sox, made
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  Speaker 1: his April Era his debut rather on April first. April
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  Speaker 1: Fool's Day wasn't a joke, though, Good to have you
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  Speaker 1: with us on the show. Not only did he make
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  Speaker 1: his debut on April first, he was the second player
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  Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball history to make the All Star
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  Speaker 1: Team in the year following his rule five selections. Shane,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Tell me about the All Star year.
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  Speaker 1: What was the best part of it for you and
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  Speaker 1: how do you improve upon that next season?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, guys, thanks for having me. Yeah, this year
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  Speaker 2: was full of you know, a lot of new for me.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, the first, you know, a couple of starts,
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  Speaker 2: you're bewildered and just trying to do your best. Then
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  Speaker 2: you start to learn, like you know, you're talking to
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  Speaker 2: guys learning out you know, what could I do here?
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  Speaker 2: What could I do there? And then you know, you're
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  Speaker 2: just trying to grow. You're just trying to be you know,
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  Speaker 2: soak up as much information as possible. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that goes into the off season of you know, what.
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  Speaker 3: Did I struggle with this year? What did I do
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  Speaker 3: well with?
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  Speaker 2: And you know, try and keep it simple as possible,
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  Speaker 2: but also you make sure you're making strides that prepare
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  Speaker 2: you for the next year. Hey, before we get into
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  Speaker 2: your year in the White Sox and everything, I got
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  Speaker 2: to start back from when you're in high school, you
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  Speaker 2: went to some place called the Governor's Academy, a boarding school.
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  Speaker 4: Can you explain what the heck that is? Because that
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  Speaker 4: sounds like some fancy schmancy place Alano would go like
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  Speaker 4: she was an he I mean some of us went
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  Speaker 4: to public high school, you know, and then some of you,
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  Speaker 4: you other people, the richer people from up north in
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  Speaker 4: the Northeast, we go to the Governor's Academy. What the
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  Speaker 4: heck is that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I would not put myself in the richie
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  Speaker 3: rich category.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean I didn't go to boarding school. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know to boarding school.
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  Speaker 3: They got financial ad for a reason.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, but uh, it's it's so basically you can be
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  Speaker 2: a day student or you can live there. I lived
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  Speaker 2: about thirty minutes from the school, and it's a preparatory
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  Speaker 2: school for college, so I moved in there at fourteen
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  Speaker 2: my freshman year. There's about four hundred and fifty kids
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  Speaker 2: in the school total, so the grades are pretty small,
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  Speaker 2: and I lived with you know, eighteen freshmen in my dorm,
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  Speaker 2: and uh then your sophomore year, junior and senior year
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  Speaker 2: you live in like a bigger you know, it's not
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  Speaker 2: college or still. You know, the faculty kind of live
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  Speaker 2: within you, and it's a you know, it's a pretty
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  Speaker 2: tight knit community. But I yeah, I enjoyed my time,
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  Speaker 2: and I know it's a it's a foreign concept to
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  Speaker 2: pretty much everybody outside of the Northeast.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, what was that movie? What was the movie where
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  Speaker 4: they had like that, did you have the Secret Society
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  Speaker 4: and the Poet Society? Yeah, dead pot. But then there
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  Speaker 4: was the other one's Skulls where they had like the
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  Speaker 4: secret Society where they had to know the past code
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  Speaker 4: and then they did all these crazy things that they.
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  Speaker 3: Like, that's Yale. That's Yale. That's a sorry, we're not there.
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  Speaker 4: No, okay, all right, all right, that's fair. That's fair.
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  Speaker 5: Okay of Pepper High School down in down in Orlando,
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  Speaker 5: doctor Pepper High School.
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  Speaker 4: The record, I.
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  Speaker 1: Went to public school. I went to public school, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and I went to a public university. So stop at aj.
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  Speaker 4: All right, now, Shane, how does somebody from the governor
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  Speaker 4: the Gobnor School, Gobnor, I parlay, I parlay end up
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  Speaker 4: at wake Forest. How do you end up like? Does
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  Speaker 4: Does Tom Walters go up there and just look for
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  Speaker 4: people from the Northeast and bring him down because he
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  Speaker 4: has a lot of the Northeast connections.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think he looks for the Northeast.
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  Speaker 2: I think he looks for the type of player that
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  Speaker 2: you know, when you're not playing baseball year round and
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  Speaker 2: you're you know, playing multiple sports, and you know, when
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  Speaker 2: you get into baseball season, that's your passion. They started
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  Speaker 2: recruiting me my sophomore year roughly, and I committed later
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  Speaker 2: that summer. But they had some family connections with Tom
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  Speaker 2: Walter and and and he gave us a look at
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  Speaker 2: the school and I fell in love with it pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 2: It's a smaller private scheating. It's the smallest Power five
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  Speaker 2: or Power four now, so it was similar to my
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  Speaker 2: high school. But you know, everything else stood up. You know,
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  Speaker 2: their facilities are incredible campus, isn't those?
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  Speaker 4: I love those private you know, small, I mean, gosh,
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  Speaker 4: it must be nice. Anyways, continue man.
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  Speaker 1: He's never going to come back on the show.
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  Speaker 4: We see him alone. I love it. I'm jealous. I
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  Speaker 4: wish that I would have had that growing up. Instead,
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  Speaker 4: I had to go to Doctor Phillips High School, Like
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean I was.
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  Speaker 2: I was in the minority in every place I went,
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  Speaker 2: so you know, I was okay with that.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I ended up Awake and absolutely loved it.
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  Speaker 2: My college career wasn't what I was expecting, just with
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  Speaker 2: injuries and COVID and all that. But you know, nothing
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  Speaker 2: but good things to say about Tom Walter and his
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  Speaker 2: staff there.
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  Speaker 1: And you played with Ret Louder, but you missed Nick
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  Speaker 1: Kurtz by a year. Tell me what you've seen from
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  Speaker 1: those two guys obviously out of wake Forest that impresses
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  Speaker 1: you the most about why they can be so successful
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  Speaker 1: at the big league level, like yourself.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Rhett.
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  Speaker 2: Rhett took the Sunday job after I blew out, after
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  Speaker 2: I had TJ and and he stepped in it as
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  Speaker 2: a freshman and you know, really commanded from an early
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  Speaker 2: early time on from there, and he grew a ton,
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  Speaker 2: started throwing you know, more strikes and throwing a little
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  Speaker 2: bit harder. But he had it, you know, pretty damn
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  Speaker 2: close when he when he showed up, so I hope
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  Speaker 2: he's you know, getting healthier and feeling better and and
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  Speaker 2: and ready to go next year because he's gonna do well.
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  Speaker 3: And and Kurtz is just ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: I remember hearing stories and seeing a big left handed
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  Speaker 2: bat in Winston and uh, they.
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  Speaker 3: Huld do really well.
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  Speaker 2: And then and he just absolutely killed it when he
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  Speaker 2: came up. So super happy for him. I talked to
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  Speaker 2: him a little bit when we went to Sacramento and
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  Speaker 2: you know, so keep it up. Wished him luck and uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, maybe we'll catch up soon. But yeah, super
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  Speaker 2: happy for those guys.
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  Speaker 5: Do you know what today is, Shane? Do you know
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  Speaker 5: what is happening in baseball today?
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  Speaker 3: Forty man roster's got to be set today? Real five?
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  Speaker 3: Is the rule five today? No way?
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  Speaker 4: So the rule five so kind of ironical in the
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  Speaker 4: winter meetings Real five?
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  Speaker 5: No, no, no. But the guys who the guys who know
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  Speaker 5: they're going to be available for the rule five, So
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  Speaker 5: it's kind of ironic, you prob do you remember this day?
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  Speaker 5: Obviously it's not this exact day last year when the
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  Speaker 5: Brewers were like, nah, we're not going to protect you.
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  Speaker 2: I I didn't really know it was my rule five
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  Speaker 2: year until probably two or three days before the draft.
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  Speaker 2: So when I wasn't protected, I didn't really think anything
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  Speaker 2: of it. And then uh, once you know, I got
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  Speaker 2: some phone calls pretty much right before the Rule five
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  Speaker 2: and they said, hey, you're you're eligible, and then it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of like, oh, crap, you know this is you know,
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  Speaker 2: this is something that could happen, which is which was
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  Speaker 2: wild Okay.
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  Speaker 5: So so it wasn't like it wasn't a knock to
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  Speaker 5: your ego because I remember being in the minor leagues
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  Speaker 5: and like guys were like, oh, yeah, this is his
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  Speaker 5: protection year. There's definitely you know, it's kind of a
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  Speaker 5: plan form year type of thing. So you didn't really
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  Speaker 5: think about that until you got phone calls and then
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  Speaker 5: did you even know what the Rule five draft was?
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  Speaker 3: I knew.
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  Speaker 2: I knew it gave me a better opportunity than you know,
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  Speaker 2: sitting in double air triple at the next year with Milwaukee,
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  Speaker 2: I thought, you get added to the forty men, and
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  Speaker 2: then you kind of just you know, you're a big
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  Speaker 2: league spring training and then maybe you make the team,
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  Speaker 2: but you're on the forty man. And then I learned
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  Speaker 2: that if all things go well, you're in the big
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  Speaker 2: leagues and uh, you know, give you your best shot.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, when I was told that it was twenty
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  Speaker 2: six and uh, you know spring training is my shot,
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  Speaker 2: then it's kind of like, Okay, you know, it's the
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  Speaker 2: opportunity I've always wanted and now it's time to run
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  Speaker 2: with it.
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  Speaker 5: Did you believe that you were actually going to get
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  Speaker 5: an opportunity when you went to the White Sox because
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  Speaker 5: we talked I think we talked to you in spring
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  Speaker 5: training and like rule five, guys, they get told one thing,
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  Speaker 5: but the reality is it's like, hey, you know, we
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  Speaker 5: just love to have you in the organization. This first
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  Speaker 5: year is a whatever thing. Did you truly believe when
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  Speaker 5: they told you that you made the team that you're like,
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna be here the whole year. I'm going to
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  Speaker 5: be an All Star.
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  Speaker 2: I I think I'd do a disservice to myself if
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think that I could do everything that I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to do.
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  Speaker 3: And no arrogance or cockiness.
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  Speaker 2: I think when I get that opportunity, it was okay,
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  Speaker 2: am I good enough to be here? And then I
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  Speaker 2: think I showed myself and others that I'm good enough
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  Speaker 2: to be here. And then it was kind of like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: now it's you know, now it's time to go the
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  Speaker 2: novelty of like, hey, we just made the team and
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  Speaker 2: you know, congratulations, like that's that's incredible, and I you know,
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  Speaker 2: I cried that day with my family. But once you
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  Speaker 2: kind of get over that first debut and second second
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  Speaker 2: outing and third outing, now it's like, okay, let's you know,
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  Speaker 2: let's do this.
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  Speaker 3: Let's let's make this work. Shane.
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  Speaker 4: You make the team first of all rule five and
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  Speaker 4: by the way, I'm glad you did because you had
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  Speaker 4: a really nature. Then you make the All Star Team,
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  Speaker 4: and I want to thank you. You didn't big league me
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  Speaker 4: on the red carpet. You came over and said hi,
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  Speaker 4: So thank you. Thank you for doing that. When I
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  Speaker 4: saw you in the red carbet and know you're with
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  Speaker 4: your family and everybody, so thank you for not big
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  Speaker 4: league in me. I appreciate that. What was it like
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  Speaker 4: when you figured out the call you made the All
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  Speaker 4: Star Team? Because forget like Rule five awesome, made the
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  Speaker 4: team awesome, But then you made it to the highest level,
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  Speaker 4: which is then the All Star Game? So what was
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  Speaker 4: that call?
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  Speaker 2: Like? It was a it was a whirlwind I really
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  Speaker 2: didn't think that I was going to get the nod there.
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  Speaker 3: I think I put together a pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Strong, you know, ten twelve starts, and then you know,
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  Speaker 2: the league adjusted to me and I had I had
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  Speaker 2: a few you know, five six tough starts, and that
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  Speaker 2: was kind of around that time and Venable came into
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  Speaker 2: the the Colorado Rockies locker room I had to start
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  Speaker 2: actually later that day, and you know, he's going through it,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, White Sox rookie pitcher, and I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's got to be me here and overcome
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  Speaker 2: with emotion, you know, try to say thank you to
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  Speaker 2: the staff and my teammates around me, because you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's how you get through those tough days, right, Like
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  Speaker 2: your teammates are guys who can bounce ideas off of
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  Speaker 2: and and you know, hey.
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  Speaker 3: I'm struggling here. What do you got? You know? And
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  Speaker 3: and I think that's.
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  Speaker 2: A huge testament to the guys in this clubhouse that
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  Speaker 2: you know, boost me up and that I can succeed.
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  Speaker 2: So and then once you get to Atlanta, it's two
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  Speaker 2: days of craziness and you know, trying to say hell
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  Speaker 2: load everybody and pick people's brains and see what you
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  Speaker 2: can get. Super thankful my family was there, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: definitely something we'll we'll think about forever.
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  Speaker 1: Shane, you had more starts under your belt than Jacob
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  Speaker 1: Izarowski did, but he made the All Star team, and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of folks were saying, how can this kid
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  Speaker 1: who has, you know, five minutes in the big leagues
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  Speaker 1: take a spot. What a lot of people didn't know
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  Speaker 1: is a lot of pitchers ahead of him didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to go or elected not to go. Their team wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: let him pitch, but he was still very deserving on
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  Speaker 1: the amount of starts that he had at the time.
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  Speaker 1: How did you deal with that firestorm of him just
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  Speaker 1: your reaction to it, because you kind of were in
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  Speaker 1: a similar situation, even though you had been up longer
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  Speaker 1: and had more starts. What was that What was your
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  Speaker 1: reaction to that whole situation for him?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I played with miz for two years, so
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  Speaker 3: I knew him pretty well.
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  Speaker 2: I think in that situation where you know you have
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  Speaker 2: the top prospect who's doing really well and is you know,
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  Speaker 2: electrifying to watch, I think that's good for the game,
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  Speaker 2: I think. And also when you have you know, I
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  Speaker 2: think it was like twelve or thirteen guys that say
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  Speaker 2: no to going out there. I think at that point,
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  Speaker 2: you know, what do you do for that that's best
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  Speaker 2: for the game. And I think miz was was in
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  Speaker 2: that category of let's get someone really exciting who's done
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  Speaker 2: well in a short period of time.
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  Speaker 3: But I think it's really cool.
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  Speaker 2: To see, you know, I think there is some merit
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  Speaker 2: to you know, maybe having fifteen to twenty starts in
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  Speaker 2: the big leagues before you get something like that.
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  Speaker 3: But obviously, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know I had fourteen, right, So you know, when do
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  Speaker 2: you draw that line? I'm not sure, but I think
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  Speaker 2: for me is that, you know, really happy for him,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm glad he threw well pretty well in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: I think that was really cool. And you know, is
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  Speaker 2: it is it a baseball purist look? I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: But I think it's also really exciting for the game.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, it's great to see some of the
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  Speaker 2: best arms and most electric eying, electrifying arms throw In Atlanta.
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  Speaker 5: You said you had a bunch of people to talk to,
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  Speaker 5: you know, pick brains of people. Who was the coolest
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  Speaker 5: person you met at the All Star Game that you
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  Speaker 5: were like I can't believe I just said hi to
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  Speaker 5: that person.
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  Speaker 3: Met Yeah, yeah, you were out there. I was. I
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  Speaker 3: was definitely starts struggling. I was saying hello to you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think I wanted to, you know, introduce myself to
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  Speaker 2: everybody and say, hey man, it's nice to meet you.
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  Speaker 3: Really cool to see you. And then I think, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I was.
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  Speaker 2: I was in kind of the ale central corner of
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  Speaker 2: the locker room. So I talked to I talked to
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  Speaker 2: some of the hitters from Detroit and in Kansas City,
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  Speaker 2: talked to Chris Bubitch a lot Scooble was right next
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  Speaker 2: to me, Derek, so I obviously asked him a few questions,
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  Speaker 2: trying to be you know, cordial about it and everything.
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  Speaker 2: But Garret Crochet was another guy who was with the
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  Speaker 2: White Sox that you know, have some familiar connections, so
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  Speaker 2: talk to him a little bit. But you know, Aaron
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  Speaker 2: Judge saying what's up to me? And you know guys
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  Speaker 2: like that, that's you've been watching him for so long.
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  Speaker 2: And then you know, I faced New York in my
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  Speaker 2: last two starts, and it's like this guy's a good guy.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, obviously you want to do well against him.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, just trying to say a load of people
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  Speaker 2: and you know, if they're open to a conversation.
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  Speaker 3: I was. I was trying to have it.
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  Speaker 4: That's good, that's smart. That's a good way to go
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  Speaker 4: into the All Star Game and enjoy, enjoy every second
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  Speaker 4: of it because it's it's meant to be fun.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 4: So you went into the year and last year you
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  Speaker 4: had Ethan Katz is your pitching coach. This year you
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  Speaker 4: have a whole new pitching coaching.
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  Speaker 5: Staff he had.
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  Speaker 4: They reached out to you. Have you talked to the
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  Speaker 4: new staff for the White Sox and have they talked
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  Speaker 4: about things they want you to go into spring training
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  Speaker 4: working on to make yourself even better because you had
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  Speaker 4: a really good year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I talked to Zach, you know, twice now. I
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  Speaker 2: actually texted me earlier today and just kind of checking in. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I had a good conversation with him. He's trying to
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  Speaker 2: get to know me and I'm trying to get to
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  Speaker 2: know him. So, you know, just telling them what I'm
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  Speaker 2: thinking in terms of, you know, what are the things
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  Speaker 2: that I think that would be, you know, to help
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  Speaker 2: me make that next jump that I'm trying to do.
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  Speaker 2: And trying to make and I think he's doing a
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  Speaker 2: really good job of listening. And also, you know, he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't know me yet. He just kind of knows the
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  Speaker 2: numbers and what it looks like on paper. And I
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  Speaker 2: think as we get to know each other more, he's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be like, Hey, Shane, I think you really can
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  Speaker 2: you know, make a jump with getting guys out with
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  Speaker 2: two strikes or first pitch strikes. You know, I definitely
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  Speaker 2: have to throw, you know, cut down on a walks
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  Speaker 2: this year. But yeah, I think I'm gonna meet with
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  Speaker 2: him right after Thanksgiving and really kind of get into
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  Speaker 2: the nitty gritty of you know, what's what's gonna help me,
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  Speaker 2: what's going to be the most bang for our buck
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: that's you know, simple and effective for next year.
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: Hey, also, I want to I wanted to ask you
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: this that you have two rookie catchers, who did you
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: like throwing two more? Keel or Kirot. I'll put you
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: on the spot.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: Here, No, I think. I think.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: I think when you have two rookie guys, they're they're
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: still trying to figure themselves out in dealing with the
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: staff of you know, fifteen sixteen pitchers and to not
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: bring one picture over to the to another is a
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: hard thing to do, but like, hey, this guy does this,
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: but everybody throws differently and everybody's stuff is different, so
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: you kind of have to attack differently. And I think
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: Caro had had Matt Feist early on that helped him
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: out of the gate for Fist to give him scouting
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: reports and and this is how we break down, and
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: this is how we want to look at guys. And
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: then Teal shows up and is and it's just him
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: and Carroll just trying to figure it out on the fly.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: So it took a lot of the pictures going to
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Teal and saying, hey man, this is this is what
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: we're trying to do. And and he picked it up
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: right away. You know, if if you didn't like something,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: you shake it. And he's he's all over it, and
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: he's trying to learn more about you know, why are
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: we shaking there? I think we saw this and then
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: we're having an open conversation. Right, everybody wants to succeed
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: and everybody wants to do well, and it's just kind
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: of how do we get there? So I think, you know,
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Caroen might have had the head start with theis kind
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: of learning him the ropes. But Teal and Carow, you know,
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: bounced ideas off each other and then you know, relied
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: heavily on the pictures to kind of, you know, guide
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: in one way or another.
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: A right trying to meld two things that you said together.
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: You're talking about catchers and you're talking about meeting somebody
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: the All Star Game. I got to ask you who
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: should have won the MVP. You were kind of starstruck
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: by Judge, you said, But you know what, you didn't
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: say anything about cal You were like, hey, whatever, man,
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: I guess that guy is not going to catch me
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: in the All Star Games? So so who should have
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: won the MVP? Because it was close?
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well close. I think.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: I think the Most Valuable Player is an interesting award
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: because when you look at a catcher, who it's, you know,
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: sixty one bombs or sixty bombs and you know it's
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: one of the best defensive catchers in the game this
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: year and is really good behind the plate, I think
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: that's it's pretty hard to put a value on that.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: But then you have judge, who it's you know, three
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: thirty with fifty five or fifty three with an eleven
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: hundred ops, and it's like, Okay, that guy clearly is
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: the staple in that lineup and propels them into a
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: divisional round. I think I think it would have been
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: really cool to see to see cal win it, to
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: see a Catcher win MVP with that amount of bombs
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: and you know, catching five days a week, six days
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: a week and showing up for his team. I think
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: it's really hard to argue what the offensive numbers of
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Judge were.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Spoken like a true I was gonna say. Aj spoken
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: like I know, I'm gonna let you talk, but it's
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: very diplomatic. I have I see a future in politics
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: for you. Shane Smith.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: Listen, Shane Murkins. Judge Murkin voted for Judge, so therefore
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: it was Raleigh that's it. And it was Raly and
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: plus you Murkin won't come on the show. You will,
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: so you should have said, Raleigh, Okay, that's that's I did.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: I know, I know, but you through Judge little love
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: which listen, he won. He great, he deserved it. He
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: had a great year.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: But I mean he did Yeah, he won the MVP,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: so he can't really discredit everything he does.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: We're not just crediting. We love Aaron judge, we're not
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: discrediting him at all. We're not discrediting him at all.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: I get it. I get it.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: You still have to face him, so you want to.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: You don't want to mad at you when you have
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: to face him down. But yeah, but okay, So I
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: have two things and then we gotta let you go. One,
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: tell col Some Montgomery to text me back. Okay, I've
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: texted him twice now he has. He's ghosted me. So
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna keep calling him out and I'm just
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: gonna start texting him every day until he responds. So
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Teal text me back. You're great about it all. There
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: are a lot of the White Sox guys. But Cools Montgomery, listen,
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: if you're ware my number, to text me back. All right,
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: that's it. I mean, tell Colson. Maybe I have the
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: wrong number. I don't know, but if I do, I'm sorry.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: But if not, tell them to text me back. And
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: then the next thing I want to know is you
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: have two sisters, right, you have two sisters?
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: I do Do.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: You ever tell them not to tweet? Because it's hilarious
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: when they start, people say something about you and then
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: they write like have you ever gone to your sister
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: and said, look, sis, I love you to death, but
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: can we not get in twitter battles today? Just let
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: me pitch and pitch good because you had a great year.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: And I always then i'd fall and then your sister
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: would pop up on my feet and I would just
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: be like, this is what I came for. This is
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: what's gonna make my day right here.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, there's definitely been some conversations. Uh, I
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: think I think I think early on it was kind
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: of like, hey, you know, people are gonna have things
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: to say that aren't always positive, Like you really got
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: to stay away from it, just you know post hey
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: my brother's pitching today, or hey, good job to my brother,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: and you know, I can't be mad at that. But
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, there I've seen some instancides where
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: it's like, why are you even entertaining this.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: This guy that's saying, oh, you know, Shane Smith sucks,
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: like just let it go.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: But I'm the little brother, and I think that's got
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: something to do with it. So I think if they
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: hear that they're you know, getting noticed by you guys,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: they'd be like, either we keep it up or we
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: probably shut it down. But Yeah, there's been some, but
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: you know they're also they're adults and they can live
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: their life as.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Long as they're you know, not threatening anybody. I think
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: it's okay.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Social media can be the devil or you love it when.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Sisters they're standing up for little brother. I mean, by
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: the way, if they say Shane Smith sucks, all you
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: got to do is say All Star Game under four
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: e r A. In my first year in the big leagues.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: I don't think I suck that bad. I think I
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: had a pretty damn good year.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I'll let them, you know, respond to the people who
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: say that, that's not my job.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Shane, just stay off of social media. Let your
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: sisters take care of it. You just keep doing what
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: you're doing. Make the All Star team again. We appreciate
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: you being here, man. Have a good offseason. Be well,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: stay safe. When do you when do you pick up
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: a baseball or have you done that already?
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: I picked one up last week, so uh, you know
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: we're getting the rust off and getting back into it now.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: Very good.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Well, good luck to you. Appreciate you taking the time.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: AJ is knocking Stu.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: I've just picked one up for the first time in
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: a long time.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: All right, guys appreciate it.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Take care,