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- 0:00Speaker 1: This Kawhi Leonard salary caps circumvention story continues to get crazier, y'all.
- 0:04Speaker 1: Another big piece of evidence dropped this morning, and it
- 0:07Speaker 1: pretty much eliminates all all skepticism you could have potentially
- 0:11Speaker 1: had on the original post. Now, if you've been living
- 0:14Speaker 1: under rock, I'll give you the spark Notes version of
- 0:16Speaker 1: what the hell is going on Pablo Torre and Pablo
- 0:19Speaker 1: Torrey finds out put together an episode of his podcast
- 0:22Speaker 1: basically accusing the Clippers of paying Kawhi Leonard under the
- 0:25Speaker 1: table right through a company named Aspiration. It was original
- 0:28Speaker 1: reported that he was given a little over twenty million dollars.
- 0:31Speaker 1: That number got all the way up to our forty
- 0:33Speaker 1: eight million dollars under the table. If you did not know,
- 0:35Speaker 1: that is completely illegal. Kawhi Leonard accused of having this
- 0:38Speaker 1: no call, no show job that gave him almost an
- 0:41Speaker 1: additional fifty million dollars. Now, this entire story is so
- 0:46Speaker 1: much longer than I could give you in a spark
- 0:47Speaker 1: Notes version. I'll put the linked in the description to
- 0:49Speaker 1: it's basically three full hour podcast episodes. But that's what
- 0:53Speaker 1: you need to know at this point. Now, what happened
- 0:54Speaker 1: after that is Steve Bama went onto ESPN and honestly
- 0:57Speaker 1: didn't really say too much. I was really excited to
- 0:59Speaker 1: potent see how he would defend himself. He basically just said, hey,
- 1:02Speaker 1: I was conned. I am more of a victim than
- 1:04Speaker 1: the person that is doing the illegal things. Cool, and
- 1:07Speaker 1: when that reason came out, everybody gave their own opinions.
- 1:09Speaker 1: But one thing that I remember hearing a thousand times
- 1:12Speaker 1: through podcasts, through reading people with a lot of opinions
- 1:16Speaker 1: that are way smarter than me, especially in the legal world.
- 1:18Speaker 1: The one thing that I kept hearing with there's no
- 1:21Speaker 1: smoking gun. There's no smoking gun, And I'm like, obviously
- 1:24Speaker 1: I've heard that before, but am I having to know
- 1:27Speaker 1: the smoking gun? Is basically, there's no irrefutable evidence that
- 1:30Speaker 1: this has happened for the Clippers.
- 1:31Speaker 2: So Steve Bomber can just claim ignorance.
- 1:34Speaker 1: He could just say, hey, I didn't know this was
- 1:36Speaker 1: going on, and Adam Silver.
- 1:38Speaker 2: Can basically do what he want.
- 1:39Speaker 1: He can say that this is not enough evidence to
- 1:41Speaker 1: do anything, and maybe it's a bit of money. Boom,
- 1:44Speaker 1: the Clippers get fined a million dollars. Boom, here's two
- 1:46Speaker 1: second round pigs.
- 1:47Speaker 2: Boom. Here's that.
- 1:49Speaker 1: But the smoking gun thing is kind of dead because
- 1:51Speaker 1: Pablo just dropped a new episode giving you that smoking gun. Now.
- 1:55Speaker 1: I never really understood the smoking gun thing, mostly because
- 1:58Speaker 1: this is not I don't know the American judicial system.
- 2:01Speaker 1: This is not one of the things that you need
- 2:03Speaker 1: irrefutable evidence for somebody to be guilty. Adam Silver has
- 2:06Speaker 1: the ability to just with the smallest amount of evidence,
- 2:09Speaker 1: to enforce something, to give somebody slap on the wrists, hell,
- 2:12Speaker 1: to ban somebody, honestly, and I thought that what Pablo
- 2:15Speaker 1: did in his initial report would have been enough for
- 2:18Speaker 1: Adam Silver to, you know, do something again. I'm not
- 2:22Speaker 1: asking for people to get banned. But there's one thing
- 2:24Speaker 1: that bothered me the most about the story, if it
- 2:26Speaker 1: is again, assuming that it's true, is that it completely
- 2:28Speaker 1: gets rid of the integrity around this league. If a
- 2:31Speaker 1: team who has one of the most richest people in
- 2:34Speaker 1: all of the world, I think he's the seventh richest
- 2:36Speaker 1: person in the entire world, if he can pay people
- 2:38Speaker 1: under the table, what about the other teams that don't
- 2:41Speaker 1: have that type of money to.
- 2:42Speaker 2: Do such things.
- 2:43Speaker 1: I said it on the podcast, like we're obviously talking
- 2:45Speaker 1: about billionaires or we're talking about the owners of NBA
- 2:47Speaker 1: teams or all of these guys that filthy amount of money.
- 2:49Speaker 1: But there's level to being a billionaire. Of course, again,
- 2:52Speaker 1: see bomb being a seventh most rich person in the
- 2:56Speaker 1: entire world versus whoever the hell is running the Memphis Grizzlies.
- 3:00Speaker 1: They can't afford to go fifty million dollars under the
- 3:02Speaker 1: table to acquire some type of talent. The competitive nature
- 3:05Speaker 1: in the integrity of the league is completely over if
- 3:09Speaker 1: we as a as a league allowed us to happen. Right, So,
- 3:12Speaker 1: Adam Silver, you have to do something. That was my
- 3:15Speaker 1: initial thing, but everybody kept saying no smoking gun, no
- 3:18Speaker 1: smoking gun. So if he does do something, it will
- 3:20Speaker 1: be something relatively light. This morning, oh boy, and Pablo's
- 3:25Speaker 1: piece this morning, he brings proof that the minority owner
- 3:31Speaker 1: of the Clippers and minority owners like he owns one
- 3:34Speaker 1: percent of the Clipper. See Boma got ninety a percent.
- 3:36Speaker 1: This guy's got one percent.
- 3:37Speaker 2: Dennis J.
- 3:38Speaker 1: Wong, he is a chairman of the Clippers, and he
- 3:40Speaker 1: invested two million dollars in Aspiration. That is the I
- 3:44Speaker 1: won't call it fake company, but the company that the
- 3:46Speaker 1: money been going through to get Kawhi Leonard his money, right,
- 3:48Speaker 1: he gave two million dollars, just invested two million for us,
- 3:51Speaker 1: has a lot of money for him, maybe not so much.
- 3:53Speaker 1: At that point in time, Aspiration was said to be
- 3:56Speaker 1: a struggling company financially, so invested in the company that
- 3:59Speaker 1: everybody knew he was failing is a bit weird. But also,
- 4:02Speaker 1: nine days after he gave his two million dollar investment,
- 4:06Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard was paid one point seventy five million dollars
- 4:10Speaker 1: from Aspiration, almost identical numbers between the investment from the
- 4:16Speaker 1: minority owner of the Clippers Slash chairman to what Kawhi
- 4:19Speaker 1: Leonard got paid.
- 4:20Speaker 2: Also came out that.
- 4:22Speaker 1: Dennisjay Wan's daughter worked for Aspiration under the title of
- 4:25Speaker 1: project Manager, Operation and Strategy. I don't know what the
- 4:28Speaker 1: hell that means, but she was a part of the
- 4:30Speaker 1: company as well. So in my mind, that is the
- 4:34Speaker 1: smoking gun. Somebody that was in the note of minority owner.
- 4:39Speaker 1: I'm sorry. The chairman of the La Clippers invested nearly
- 4:43Speaker 1: two million dollars was one point nine to nine million,
- 4:45Speaker 1: So we just gonna round up to two million dollars
- 4:47Speaker 1: to the company that later who was struggling financially, remind
- 4:51Speaker 1: you gave one point seventy five of that money straight
- 4:55Speaker 1: to Kawhi Leonard's bank account. That is a smoking gun
- 5:00Speaker 1: taste the perspective, right, all the people that was saying,
- 5:01Speaker 1: maybe we get a slap on the risk two second
- 5:03Speaker 1: round picks one million dollar five, No, it has to
- 5:05Speaker 1: be bigger because now on the opposing people across the
- 5:08Speaker 1: league is like, if you give them a slap on
- 5:10Speaker 1: the risk, now that we have almost irrefutable evidence as
- 5:12Speaker 1: this is illegal shit going on, If you give them
- 5:14Speaker 1: a slap on the risk, why shouldn't we just do
- 5:16Speaker 1: the same thing. And we're really about to figure out
- 5:19Speaker 1: what kind of commissioner Adam Silver really is. Right, we
- 5:25Speaker 1: have had Adam Silver around for a long time, but
- 5:27Speaker 1: before that we had David Stern, And David Stern was
- 5:29Speaker 1: one of the boys that you didn't want to play with, right,
- 5:31Speaker 1: if you did something that was illegal, you were going
- 5:34Speaker 1: to see and feel the full wrath of its powers. Now,
- 5:37Speaker 1: if you go to the CBA, I'm reading it right here,
- 5:39Speaker 1: it says that the end of belief that punishment can
- 5:42Speaker 1: be aleviated against a team or player if a violation
- 5:45Speaker 1: of unauthorized agreements can be proven by direct or circumstantial evidence. Again,
- 5:53Speaker 1: like I mentioned earlier, this is not the American judicial
- 5:55Speaker 1: system where you need irrefutable evidence beyond a reasonable doubt
- 5:58Speaker 1: that it's not the case anymore. Adam Silver truly does
- 6:00Speaker 1: have the power that if he wanted to use Jesse
- 6:02Speaker 1: evidence that we see right now to make a.
- 6:04Speaker 2: Decision, he can't.
- 6:05Speaker 1: But when he went to the podium and they just
- 6:08Speaker 1: did this full meeting just a couple days ago, and
- 6:10Speaker 1: that's what we got the clip of Adam Silver saying
- 6:11Speaker 1: that the NBA is a highlight league, which I was
- 6:13Speaker 1: damned about to make a video about that, because what
- 6:15Speaker 1: are we talking about Adam Silver? When he was brought
- 6:17Speaker 1: to the podium and he only talked a little bit
- 6:19Speaker 1: about it, he basically was saying that he won't be
- 6:22Speaker 1: taking any actions based on just circumstantial evidence.
- 6:26Speaker 2: Now, this is what it really is about.
- 6:28Speaker 1: This is from the steinline, or put the link in
- 6:29Speaker 1: the description in the best substack you could be subscribed
- 6:31Speaker 1: to if you care about NBA news. I've spoken to
- 6:34Speaker 1: multiple team strategists, for example, who told me with chess
- 6:37Speaker 1: puffed that if the Clippers aren't docked multiple first round picks.
- 6:41Speaker 1: If Leonard's contract is avoided while his salary obligations remain
- 6:45Speaker 1: on the Clippers book, they will feel emboldened to seek
- 6:50Speaker 1: out their own version of shell companies to provide additional
- 6:54Speaker 1: compensation to their players. So, Adam Silver, you have a
- 6:58Speaker 1: big decision to make, because if you just give a
- 7:01Speaker 1: slap on the risk, guess what some of the teams
- 7:02Speaker 1: that can afford to do this little circumvention thing will
- 7:06Speaker 1: Because if we know that it's only gonna cost two
- 7:07Speaker 1: second round picks, hell, how many second round picks turns
- 7:09Speaker 1: to anything?
- 7:10Speaker 2: Anyway, we'll give that away.
- 7:11Speaker 1: Luka, doncis your next extension side for this minimum because
- 7:15Speaker 1: we got two hundred million dollars under the table with
- 7:17Speaker 1: our new ownership group. Over the last couple of years,
- 7:20Speaker 1: it has been very important for him to talk about
- 7:22Speaker 1: the fairness across basketball, the parody across the league, and
- 7:27Speaker 1: more recently when we talk about to CBA, we talked
- 7:29Speaker 1: about the second Apron, which was put in place to
- 7:31Speaker 1: prevent teams.
- 7:32Speaker 2: From building super teams.
- 7:34Speaker 1: You get too expensive, you get doc this, you can't
- 7:37Speaker 1: make this trade, you can't have this draft capital, you
- 7:40Speaker 1: can't do this.
- 7:41Speaker 2: In order to keep fairness and parody alive.
- 7:43Speaker 1: Now, the Clippers are not a team that has won
- 7:45Speaker 1: anything with Kawhi Lender being there, but it's not necessarily
- 7:48Speaker 1: about that. It's about the principle of it all. Are
- 7:51Speaker 1: we going to be somebody that cares about the new
- 7:53Speaker 1: CBA and keeping fairness and parody in the league, or
- 7:57Speaker 1: will we not care enough and just allow things to
- 8:00Speaker 1: go ramp it across basketball? Because if that is the case,
- 8:02Speaker 1: let's get rid of the new CBA, Let's get rid
- 8:04Speaker 1: of the salary cap, and just turn this shit into baseball.
- 8:07Speaker 1: Just the richest teams get the best players. And in
- 8:09Speaker 1: baseball that's fine because it's not always about the talent
- 8:13Speaker 1: that's on the field. Right, You can have a team
- 8:15Speaker 1: with a little payroll going to de Broun. The NBA
- 8:17Speaker 1: is just a different sport. The team traditionally with the
- 8:19Speaker 1: most amount of talent is gonna win the series. There
- 8:22Speaker 1: is no pitcher coming in and throwing seven shot out
- 8:25Speaker 1: when he had a seven ERA in a regular season.
- 8:27Speaker 1: That doesn't happen in the NBA often. I guess Max
- 8:29Speaker 1: Strews and gave Vincent is the best example we got
- 8:31Speaker 1: over the last ten years. But other than that, the
- 8:33Speaker 1: teams with the best players traditionally going to deeper run. Again,
- 8:36Speaker 1: I say traditionally, there's always gonna be caveats in there.
- 8:38Speaker 1: It's no surprise that the team that had Lebron James
- 8:41Speaker 1: on it for basically a decade made it to the
- 8:43Speaker 1: finals every single season. It's no surprise when the greatest
- 8:45Speaker 1: regular season team of all time added an all time player.
- 8:48Speaker 2: The talent usually wins in our league.
- 8:50Speaker 1: And now when you add all of this that we
- 8:52Speaker 1: talk about with the Clippers, with the reports about you know,
- 8:55Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonards company asking the Raptors for some money and
- 8:58Speaker 1: some opportunities and all this before he left, that it just.
- 9:02Speaker 2: Looks more than circumstance.
- 9:04Speaker 1: Now, the NBA has their own investigation group that they
- 9:07Speaker 1: hired or the these this firm of lawyers, So I
- 9:08Speaker 1: guess we'll get down to it. I question how long
- 9:11Speaker 1: it will take for them to do their investigation. It
- 9:13Speaker 1: took Pablo Torre a few different months to acquire all
- 9:16Speaker 1: of this evidence, so maybe it'll take them the same
- 9:18Speaker 1: amount of time to do the same thing. Or Poblo
- 9:20Speaker 1: can can throw his notes and say, hey, here's half
- 9:22Speaker 1: the job, now go get the other opinions and go
- 9:24Speaker 1: get the other irrefutable evidence from the Clippers that say
- 9:27Speaker 1: that we got conned. And a lot of people are
- 9:29Speaker 1: bringing up Joe Smith because when Joe Smith went on
- 9:33Speaker 1: to the Minnesota Timberwolves, they they also did it illegally.
- 9:38Speaker 1: This is back in two thousand. Yeah, the year two thousand.
- 9:40Speaker 1: I want to make sure I got my year right,
- 9:42Speaker 1: two thousand and with that, we're talking about Joe Smith,
- 9:45Speaker 1: not Klik Leonard who's an all timer, Just Joe Smith,
- 9:49Speaker 1: just Joe Smith.
- 9:50Speaker 2: Boy.
- 9:51Speaker 1: David Starn said, no, no, no, no, no, what you did
- 9:53Speaker 1: was illegal. We're gonna find you three point five million dollars. Remember,
- 9:56Speaker 1: go ahead, do your inflation calculations, because we're talking about
- 9:58Speaker 1: the year two thousand. You're going to forfeit five future
- 10:03Speaker 1: first round picks. Now, later they got two of them
- 10:06Speaker 1: back after YadA, YadA YadA, but initially they were docked
- 10:09Speaker 1: five first round picks. Can you imagine that type of
- 10:12Speaker 1: thing happening to the Clippers right now?
- 10:15Speaker 2: The Clippers have done a really good job as of recently.
- 10:18Speaker 1: I'm gonna assuming again, let's say it's all legal of
- 10:21Speaker 1: basically going from era to errow while still seeing competent
- 10:23Speaker 1: and you know, of course they only got one Conference
- 10:25Speaker 1: finals appearance in this era, but they have always been competent. Hell,
- 10:27Speaker 1: last year, I thought that they were gonna be out
- 10:29Speaker 1: out of the postseason. They won fifty games. They've always
- 10:32Speaker 1: found a way to put together god rosters. But if
- 10:34Speaker 1: you're telling me that the potential galvel going down is
- 10:38Speaker 1: five first round picks on a team that traded a
- 10:40Speaker 1: ton of first round picks to get this current regime,
- 10:42Speaker 1: they don't really have a lot of picks until we
- 10:44Speaker 1: get to like twenty nineteen, twenty twenty nine, thirty, twenty
- 10:49Speaker 1: thirty one, and now with their aging core of Kawhi
- 10:51Speaker 1: lond Or James Harden and so on and so forth,
- 10:53Speaker 1: we don't have any draft capital. If you take five away,
- 10:57Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't know, man, training camp is
- 10:59Speaker 1: what three weeks away? I guess we all just clamoring
- 11:04Speaker 1: for something to talk about. But I think this is
- 11:06Speaker 1: just a huge, huge story that can change the history
- 11:09Speaker 1: of the league depending on what Adam Silver decides to do.
- 11:12Speaker 1: You let me know in the common section what you
- 11:14Speaker 1: think that I mentioned that the guy the NBA chairman
- 11:17Speaker 1: or the Clippers chairman that donated the two million dollars
- 11:20Speaker 1: or invested the two million dollars also as college roommates
- 11:22Speaker 1: with Steve Bomber. I don't know if that's super important
- 11:24Speaker 1: to the story, but I also find it really really funny,
- 11:28Speaker 1: really funny,