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Jackie Oshry’s Late-Night Panic Google · Wellness, Actually with Emily Oster & Perry Wilson, MD

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  Speaker 1: This is parent Data. I'm Emily Oster. Hi, Emily Oster,
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  Speaker 1: Jackie Ashray, thank you for joining me.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be here.
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  Speaker 3: Your book is the one and only pregnancy book that
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  Speaker 3: I read while I was pregnant, so this is very
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  Speaker 3: full circle for me.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'm excited to have you. As I was telling
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  Speaker 4: you before we started, I'm a big fan. But my
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  Speaker 4: sister in law is your biggest fan, so this is
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  Speaker 4: such a treat Hi.
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  Speaker 2: Sister in law.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, her name is also Emily, because that's what everybody's
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  Speaker 1: name is.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that is so funny. Hi, Emily Squared.
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  Speaker 4: Do you want to tell us a little bit about
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  Speaker 4: what you do and do you have children?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: So I am a mother, and I'm a podcaster, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm an influencer. In that order, I would say. I
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  Speaker 3: host a daily podcast, actually called The Toast with my
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  Speaker 3: sister Claudia. We've been doing it for six years. It's
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  Speaker 3: all comedy, entertainment, pop culture, reality TV. We go about
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  Speaker 3: an hour a day chit chatting with each other, talking
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  Speaker 3: about what's going on in the world. We do advice segments,
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  Speaker 3: we do TV, we recaps, we do a lot and
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  Speaker 3: We're just a part of Every Wednesday, and it's really
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  Speaker 3: fun and I think it's really funny. I'm also very funny,
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  Speaker 3: thank you. I'm also on Instagram. I do a bit
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  Speaker 3: of content creation there. I wrote a children's book, another
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  Speaker 3: piece of content I've put into the world. And I'm
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  Speaker 3: a mom of two And how old are your kids?
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  Speaker 3: My son is just over to when my other son
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  Speaker 3: is nine months amazing.
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  Speaker 1: What's your favorite reality TV show right now?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Right now?
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  Speaker 3: I'm in my reality TV era. I feel like I
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  Speaker 3: go in ways where I don't turn my TV on
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  Speaker 3: for like three months, and then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like up every night, staying up late watching. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm really into Summerhouse at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think I even know about that one.
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  Speaker 1: I'm stuck on.
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  Speaker 4: Like I'm still in the middle of the New Bridgerton series,
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  Speaker 4: which is, to be fair, not a reality TV show.
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  Speaker 3: No, but that's like pretty up on things that.
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  Speaker 1: Just came out. I was waiting for it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, So you're you're a fiction drama.
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  Speaker 3: Girly yes, and then Top Chef. Okay, so there's reality.
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  Speaker 3: So you're you're on Bravo Summerhouses on Bravo. I also
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  Speaker 3: Vanderpump rules are very similar. It's just like Summerhouse is
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  Speaker 3: the Hampton's version of Jersey Shore. Oh.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, okay, I may need to check that out.
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  Speaker 4: But I only watch TV for like ten minutes at night,
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  Speaker 4: and so it has to be something that's like it
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  Speaker 4: can be consumed in ten minute increments.
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  Speaker 3: That's a short amount of time. You need like mini series,
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  Speaker 3: mini episodes.
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  Speaker 1: I need mini episodes. You should make content.
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  Speaker 4: You should make toast television reality mini episodes for ten minute.
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  Speaker 3: Pieces of content. But I feel like the whole thing
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  Speaker 3: is now. I don't know how you pull yourself away.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like once I turn my tea be on,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sucked in.
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  Speaker 2: Which is her.
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  Speaker 3: Turns off the light and he's like, go to bed now,
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  Speaker 3: Well that'll do it.
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  Speaker 1: That'll do it. That's what you need. Okay, So tell
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  Speaker 1: me what is your late night panic Google?
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I feel I wrote down all of my recent
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  Speaker 3: Google searches.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's one these days.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not going to get into this discussion because
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  Speaker 3: we could do an hour long podcast episode. But I've
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  Speaker 3: been sucked into sourdough, Okay, and this week. It's all
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  Speaker 3: like sourdough tips in my area for like my climate,
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  Speaker 3: how to proof my how to speed up my proofing process.
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  Speaker 3: So like that is just a rabbit hole. I've gone
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  Speaker 3: down and I can't get out of it.
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  Speaker 4: So most of your Google searches are just like things
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  Speaker 4: about sour.
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  Speaker 3: Though, things about sourdough. My whole life has been overtaken
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  Speaker 3: by sourdough. It's the craziest thing. No, But what I
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  Speaker 3: sometimes Google at night, like for the kids, is like
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  Speaker 3: music notes for some of their favorite songs because we
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  Speaker 3: play on like the every toy has like music notes
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  Speaker 3: that you could play like the uh do me on,
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  Speaker 3: So like if they're feeling a song, I'll try and
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  Speaker 3: like learn the music notes so that like we can
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  Speaker 3: play it on their kitty piano or like their little
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  Speaker 3: Fisher Price toys that have musical buttons. Oh so my
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  Speaker 3: last one was Hakuna Matata.
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  Speaker 1: And you figured it out. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then also, I mean just the algorithm is always
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  Speaker 3: working overtime because now I get targeted for these videos
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  Speaker 3: on Instagram where they it's piano tutorials where they give
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  Speaker 3: a key a number and it's like one two four
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  Speaker 3: four four four three four two and makes it really
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  Speaker 3: really easy because I can read music from like growing up,
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  Speaker 3: I learned how to read music, so I can look
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  Speaker 3: up the music notes.
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  Speaker 2: But that just makes it super easy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a there's an app called simply Piano, which
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  Speaker 4: my son downloaded at some point, which will just tell
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  Speaker 4: you exactly how to like play play things on the piano.
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  Speaker 1: That's always like Taylor Swift.
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  Speaker 3: Play by numbers. It's actually really great and it makes
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  Speaker 3: it fun. And so when we're all sitting playing, I'm
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  Speaker 3: like trying to learn something new, and then we could
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  Speaker 3: do with singing.
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  Speaker 1: Just do you think that you'll make your kids learn
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  Speaker 1: an instrument.
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  Speaker 3: If they express interest. Yes, and I feel like they
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  Speaker 3: will express interest. But I learned music growing up, and
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  Speaker 3: of course I didn't appreciate it when I was a child,
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  Speaker 3: And now I'm like, do.
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  Speaker 1: You wish you had practiced? I wish I had practiced more.
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  Speaker 3: I wish I had practiced. I wish I had stuck
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  Speaker 3: with it. I wish I appreciated it.
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  Speaker 2: And you live and learn.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's interesting. It's one of the things.
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  Speaker 4: One of the things people often ask me about music
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  Speaker 4: is like, do I need my kid, like should I.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of links between like music and performance,
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  Speaker 4: and so you know, do I need my kid to
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  Speaker 4: like listen to Mozart in the womb.
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  Speaker 2: Or start them young?
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  Speaker 4: Started, start start them young, or have them play an instrument,
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  Speaker 4: because otherwise they'll be they'll be like behind.
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  Speaker 1: But the data doesn't really support that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the data doesn't, she said.
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  Speaker 1: The data doesn't. Data doesn't support doesn't support that.
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  Speaker 2: That's so interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a classic example where there's one.
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  Speaker 4: Study of college to where they like played them Mozart
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  Speaker 4: and then they had them take a test. It's like
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  Speaker 4: you bring a bunch of students college udents in the
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  Speaker 4: lab and like the students who heard the Mozart did
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  Speaker 4: better on the test. And then people like decided based
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  Speaker 4: on that that if you don't play Mozart for your
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  Speaker 4: kid in the womb, they'll turn out to be an idiot.
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  Speaker 3: Is that really where the whole that's the whole rat,
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  Speaker 3: that's the whole thing. And then it turned out people
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  Speaker 3: did follow up research studies where they like tried playing
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  Speaker 3: them different kinds of music and it turns out it
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  Speaker 3: like doesn't really replicate and it definitely doesn't have anything
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  Speaker 3: to do with Mozart, like kind of many people find
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  Speaker 3: music relaxing, and so it's like, sometimes it's helpful to
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  Speaker 3: relax before a test, but it's.
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  Speaker 2: So wow, major truth.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I guess it's also good to listen to Mozart
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  Speaker 3: I when you're pregnant, to relax yourself.
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  Speaker 4: To relax yourself because there's nothing yes, because then if
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  Speaker 4: you're stressed, that's also bad.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of ways to mess up, right, Like
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  Speaker 1: so many ways?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, do you have any other you have your
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  Speaker 4: whole Google search, you have anything else good in there?
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  Speaker 3: I do, like most recent one, just like panic why
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  Speaker 3: can't babies have honey? Because I realized I was making
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  Speaker 3: my bread. Everything with me this week comes back to
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  Speaker 3: my breads, right.
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  Speaker 1: And one of them that honey and your sour.
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  Speaker 3: Dough in a sourdough discard sandwich recipe. So it's like
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  Speaker 3: you use some of the sourdough starter, but you use
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  Speaker 3: yeast and make sandwich bread. So I made sandwich bricks.
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  Speaker 3: It's so much easier, Oh my gosh. And that recipe
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  Speaker 3: did call for honey. And then when I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: should I give him something? I was like, oh no,
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  Speaker 3: it has honey. So then I was like, Okay, fine,
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  Speaker 3: I won't but like, why can't they have honey?
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  Speaker 2: Is that one of the real ones?
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  Speaker 3: Because I read your book and doctor Fox is my
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  Speaker 3: doctor and he doesn't go for like a lot of
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  Speaker 3: this stuff that's like you shouldn't they smoked? So I
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  Speaker 3: was like, I wonder what the honey thing is.
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  Speaker 4: So the honey thing is a worry that people that
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  Speaker 4: kids would have botulism. So their botulism is like a
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  Speaker 4: it's a toxin and it can cause paralysis.
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  Speaker 1: It's treatable, but it's like scary.
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  Speaker 4: Your kid would have to be like a potentially on
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  Speaker 4: a ventilator, and babies underweter are more susceptible to this.
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  Speaker 1: It's extremely rare.
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  Speaker 4: And for a while they thought that it was like
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  Speaker 4: linked to consumption of honey based on I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: like asking people whose kids had this, like did you
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  Speaker 4: have any what did you eat recently? And some of them,
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  Speaker 4: I guess had had honey. But then I think it
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  Speaker 4: has turned out it has turned out subsequently in the
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  Speaker 4: data that this leak is quite tenuous and probably has
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  Speaker 4: nothing to do with honey.
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  Speaker 1: So you really could if honey would have been fine.
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  Speaker 2: Honey, it would have been fine.
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  Speaker 3: And say like honey could in a rare situe say
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  Speaker 3: it could cause botulism, Like what about cooked honey?
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  Speaker 2: Is that if it.
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  Speaker 4: Were if the honey did have a lot of botulism cooking,
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  Speaker 4: it would not affect.
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  Speaker 2: That it wouldn't kill the botchula one.
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  Speaker 4: So if you so, so, there is it sort of
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  Speaker 4: it's the cooking is not relevant. It's just that it
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  Speaker 4: It does not seem like honey is a major botulism source. God,
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  Speaker 4: And also botula is like really vanishingly rare.
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  Speaker 3: Got it fascinating? Yeah, because that one's like the big one.
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  Speaker 3: And I never really thought why people.
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  Speaker 4: Are all always freaking Like somebody wrote to me the
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  Speaker 4: other day and they were like, my mother in law
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  Speaker 4: gave my son, he's eleven months old, she gave him
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  Speaker 4: a honey nut cheerio, and I can you tell me?
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  Speaker 4: I told my husband she can never see our child again.
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  Speaker 4: Can you back me up here? I was like I cannot.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, You're on your own there. Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: I never thought of honey nut cheerio.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, or honey grams.
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  Speaker 4: Actually a lot of honey is actually in a lot
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  Speaker 4: of base goods that people accidentally give a small amount
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  Speaker 4: of their to their children before they panic.
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  Speaker 3: Got it, Well good, I'm glad. We're asking the questions.
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  Speaker 1: We're asking the questions, and we're making our breads.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it comes back to.
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  Speaker 3: And then of course all of my googles are like
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  Speaker 3: how to work how to collapse my stroller, how to
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  Speaker 3: bring my Douna to the next stage. Like I'm just
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  Speaker 3: all of the equipment, like how to do the crib
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  Speaker 3: low We're it?
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  Speaker 1: You know you need you like you.
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  Speaker 4: This is what YouTube is so good for, right, like
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  Speaker 4: you just like you search that.
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  Speaker 1: It's like there it is a YouTube video.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just like watching someone else do it. And
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  Speaker 3: now I can do it because you throw away the
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  Speaker 3: manuals as you should, because I know I can just
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  Speaker 3: google everything, like or go to the page on Amazon
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  Speaker 3: where I bought in, scroll down and like look at
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  Speaker 3: the assembly instructions. So that was the latest one. Looking
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  Speaker 3: for the Douna trike how to get the wheels moving
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  Speaker 3: are rah we my.
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  Speaker 4: Kids are bigger, so there's not a lot of like
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  Speaker 4: baby equipment like this. But now I've been using YouTube
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  Speaker 4: to like install the like bike racks on top of
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  Speaker 4: the car. The other day, I was like outside watching
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  Speaker 4: my little YouTube video, like installing the bike storage.
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  Speaker 1: Racks on our car.
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  Speaker 2: That's impressive.
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  Speaker 1: I totally did it. Yeah, my husband was impressed.
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  Speaker 4: It like one of the few things that And the
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  Speaker 4: time I fixed the garbage's bosal those are like the
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  Speaker 4: times in my life he's.
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  Speaker 1: Been most impressed.
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  Speaker 2: That is really impressive.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's true.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, any you know these books and so on,
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  Speaker 4: like people can do that, but the garbage's BOSL fixing
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  Speaker 4: was sort of magic. Yeah, it was my fault for
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  Speaker 4: putting us You can't put asparagus in the garbage disposal.
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  Speaker 1: You can, No, it's too stringy.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't know that. That's not something they tell you.
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  Speaker 1: Cooked it's okay, But if you put the raw asperry, no,
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  Speaker 1: it's a no.
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  Speaker 2: Are there other things like that?
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  Speaker 1: Probably? I don't know that was the one that that
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  Speaker 1: was the one that ruined me.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know that garbage disposals had rules. Onion peels
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  Speaker 3: I'm seeing is another one.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. I feel like people have learned a lot from
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  Speaker 1: this episode. I think it's.
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  Speaker 4: Okay to give your kid honey and uh onion peels
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  Speaker 4: and uncooked asparagus don't go in your garbage disposal, and
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  Speaker 4: you can use your sour dough thing with the yeast.
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  Speaker 3: Bread is easier, right if you want it to rise,
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  Speaker 3: because for my few first few sour doughs didn't rise.
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  Speaker 3: And then another panic google of mine. That's like probably
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  Speaker 3: once a week, I'll drop something on the floor and
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  Speaker 3: my dog eats it. I'm like, can my dog have garlic?
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  Speaker 3: Can my dog have a blueberry? Also, my kids drop
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  Speaker 3: their food on the floor for the dog, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: there are really toxic things for dogs that I know. Chocolate, chocolate,
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  Speaker 3: oh yeah, grapes. I actually think like onions are are bad.
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  Speaker 3: So if they're ever eating those things, I will put
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  Speaker 3: bruno in the crate so that I can pick it
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  Speaker 3: up afterwards.
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  Speaker 2: But then there's something like avocado. I think that's like
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  Speaker 2: not great, huh. It's not like deadly, but not good.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm always googling ken dogs have strawberries.
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  Speaker 1: This is amazing. Thank you, Jackie, thank you