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Did Bryce Harper just sink the Nats season? · District Territory

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the District Territory Podcast. I am joined
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  Speaker 1: today by Kevin Franzen to the Washington Nationals and Spencer
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  Speaker 1: Dusbaum of the Athletic Matt's Fans. We're all in this
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  Speaker 1: together right now as we make sense of what's happened
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  Speaker 1: over the last three days. The Nationals win probability is
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  Speaker 1: something that is difficult to swallow. Spencer, you treated out
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  Speaker 1: tweeted out the Nats held a five to nothing lead
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  Speaker 1: on Tuesday. That was the case again on Thursday night.
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  Speaker 1: They got after it early on Nasiem Nunez with two outs.
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  Speaker 1: That's about an early four to nothing lead that was
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  Speaker 1: not to be held. As Brandon Marsh begg your pardon.
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  Speaker 1: The sixth inning got to Katee Cavali was a brilliant
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  Speaker 1: outing for him. Then in the seventh inning, walks leading
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  Speaker 1: to the bases loaded, one out, a fielder's choice that's
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  Speaker 1: unable to turn the double play. And then the big
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  Speaker 1: blow in the ninth inning with nobody out, Bryce Harper
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  Speaker 1: delivering a go ahead home run and then the dagger
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  Speaker 1: and no doubt are off of the bat of Derek Hill.
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  Speaker 1: Here's manager Blake Ye Tear in the post game on
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  Speaker 1: how much length these guys are going to have going
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  Speaker 1: forward in the bullpen.
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  Speaker 2: They're gonna get opportunities to do so how much rope
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  Speaker 2: that is, that's to be determined when need to talk
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  Speaker 2: through that. Of course, like I said, this is this
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  Speaker 2: is our group right now, and at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day, we're going to turn the bullpen and whoever's
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  Speaker 2: ready to pitch, and you get in there and get
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  Speaker 2: an opportunity to pitch guys.
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  Speaker 1: It's a tricky series. But Kevin kicking it off here,
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  Speaker 1: my question for you, who do you trust down there
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  Speaker 1: the most right now in the Nationals bullpen?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think it's it's more than that. I think
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot that goes into it. It's not a
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  Speaker 3: like who do you trust, who you do? It's who
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  Speaker 3: takes this who takes this opportunity and runs with it?
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  Speaker 4: More than anything.
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  Speaker 3: There's so much that goes into building a bullpen, and
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  Speaker 3: there's never a there's never a perfect way, right and
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  Speaker 3: especially when it's a young bullpen, there's not a lot
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  Speaker 3: of established guys there, if any. You got to take
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  Speaker 3: advantage of your opportunities and you got to find your
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  Speaker 3: roles and and They've tried to put these guys into
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  Speaker 3: great roles the entire time.
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  Speaker 4: Time.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, sometimes the moment's too big. Sometimes the moment just
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  Speaker 3: gets away from you. Sometimes you tip your cap and
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  Speaker 3: you say, oh, the other team did a great job
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  Speaker 3: and doing this. You know, when you get into a
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  Speaker 3: series against the Phillies, you like Phillies and Braves especially,
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  Speaker 3: I think we could all say it. They're different. They're
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  Speaker 3: different with the lineups that they have, and so when
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  Speaker 3: you start putting, you know, guys into situations, they may
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  Speaker 3: be correct, but you don't know what the inners are like.
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  Speaker 3: And we're starting to find out, you know, in these
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  Speaker 3: in these games that they were totally different than we've
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  Speaker 3: seen in the past.
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  Speaker 4: So who do I trust?
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  Speaker 3: I trust, honestly, the ones that you could see come
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  Speaker 3: out and fire away strikes right away and not nibble
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  Speaker 3: and like Orlando Ravolta, I trust. And I'll say that
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  Speaker 3: right there because what we saw the other night. He
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  Speaker 3: came right after Schwarber. It was one hell of in
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  Speaker 3: a bat right before they walked, you know, they he
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  Speaker 3: walked them and then they go to love Lady for me.
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  Speaker 3: The way that he attacked Kyle Schwarber was amazing and
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  Speaker 3: it was the greatest scharber or bat that he just
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  Speaker 3: turned his way. Oh that, Like again, this is opportunity
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  Speaker 3: for so many. I've talked about this with Spencer's This
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  Speaker 3: is opportunity for guys in the minor league to see
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  Speaker 3: this and get hungry and try to make their their
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  Speaker 3: way up here to be like a reason, there's opportunity
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  Speaker 3: from other people that are gonna get like justin Lawrence,
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna come in. They've People have got to understand
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  Speaker 3: that this isn't the end of the world, but it's
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  Speaker 3: also a great opportunity and you got to be able
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  Speaker 3: to find it and take advantage of it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean the two ends of that, right are
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  Speaker 5: it's an opportunity that you might not get on twenty
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  Speaker 5: nine other rosters, right like that, and that's a that's
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  Speaker 5: a merit, But it's also for these guys, that's an
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  Speaker 5: opportunity right where maybe they've never pitched in that spot before.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe you know, they wouldn't have earned it on another roster,
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  Speaker 5: but they'll have a chance to earn it here. And
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  Speaker 5: I think that that's something where they can look at
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  Speaker 5: that as maybe an opportunity as you're talking about as
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  Speaker 5: opposed to something to be scared of or something to
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  Speaker 5: run from. I mean we even we talked to Blake
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  Speaker 5: after the game and asked him like, Hey, are your
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  Speaker 5: guys pitching scared on the mound right now? And he
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  Speaker 5: said it, you know, it looks like it, which is
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  Speaker 5: pretty damning coming from the manager of a big league team,
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  Speaker 5: but he's he's not wrong.
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  Speaker 4: Right, you can m.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean just it was so easy to see,
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  Speaker 5: and it's been easy to see the last three days,
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  Speaker 5: not with every single guy who's pitched, but in those
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  Speaker 5: nine innings, it's that's that's been the case. You can
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  Speaker 5: take this in any number of directions. I actually wrote
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  Speaker 5: about this in The Athletic this morning. To me, a
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  Speaker 5: lot of this comes down to their reality over the years,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm not just talking about entering this season. You know,
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  Speaker 5: they weren't going to spend north should they have spent
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  Speaker 5: big on the bullpen, but I think you look at
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  Speaker 5: maybe adding you know one or two guys who make
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  Speaker 5: three million dollars, four million dollars, taking some chances on
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  Speaker 5: those guys, and way beyond that, they should have started
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  Speaker 5: investing in player development early or at least maybe or
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  Speaker 5: fine some things there where you have guys that you
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  Speaker 5: can bring up over the years. So yeah, there's there's
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  Speaker 5: no one person to blame for all of this. There's
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  Speaker 5: no one reliever to blame, no one coach, no one executive.
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  Speaker 5: I wouldn't even say even one owner to blame for this.
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  Speaker 5: But this, this three game stretch right here is what
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  Speaker 5: happens when you don't spend and you you maybe don't
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  Speaker 5: lock in just during a not lock in, but you
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  Speaker 5: don't maybe figure things out during a rebuild the way
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  Speaker 5: you should. They're trending in the right direction right now
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  Speaker 5: in the minor leagues, but yeah, these guys have to
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  Speaker 5: prove it.
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  Speaker 3: I think that the other part of that is that
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  Speaker 3: the spending part is is such a big thing when
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  Speaker 3: you say it not.
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  Speaker 4: I think it needs to be highlighted. What you said.
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  Speaker 3: It's not just about this year, right, it's in the
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  Speaker 3: previous years and what you know, what you're going after
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  Speaker 3: and how you were developing in that moment because we
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  Speaker 3: didn't see it. You know, most of these cost effective
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  Speaker 3: you know places that you look at, they do it
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  Speaker 3: from within. Yeah, and how do they do it from within?
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  Speaker 3: You develop and you've got to be able to do that,
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  Speaker 3: and it's not a one year thing, right Like, it's
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  Speaker 3: not Paul ta Bony's farm system.
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  Speaker 4: Is going to develop it right now.
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  Speaker 3: There's so many positives that are going on in the
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  Speaker 3: minor leagues right now that are huge that maybe it
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  Speaker 3: could have been done a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Kevin, as someone who played for both organizations, do you
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  Speaker 1: think it's fair to say that those players may have
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  Speaker 1: been rattled a little bit by the Philadelphia fan base.
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  Speaker 1: Let's be realistic here. The last decade fifteen years, the fans,
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  Speaker 1: the Philadelphia fan invasion is a real thing. And at
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  Speaker 1: the end of that game, there were not Nationals fans
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  Speaker 1: in the building.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's the other team. Like, it's the other team.
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  Speaker 3: That's That's the only thing. The fans didn't do anything
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  Speaker 3: on that. They're both fan base good fan bases. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: the Phillies traveled and all that stuff, but that wasn't
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  Speaker 3: that was nothing to me. We had a way worse.
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  Speaker 3: We've seen it way worse in the past, but it's
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't one of those things that you looked at
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  Speaker 3: and you're going, Okay, yeah, that's the other team.
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  Speaker 4: Is the one that was the one that it had
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  Speaker 4: nothing to do with fan base.
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  Speaker 5: What I would say here, and this isn't about fan
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  Speaker 5: bases in particular, but juxtaposing these two rosters is look
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  Speaker 5: at that Bryce moment, and if you do want to
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  Speaker 5: bring up the fans, there are fans in the tarps
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  Speaker 5: out section, tarps off section out and right field channing
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  Speaker 5: at Bryce. The youth and inexperience of the Nationals roster
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  Speaker 5: has showed up, specifically in the bullpen in this series,
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  Speaker 5: where again maybe not ready for these moments. You want
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  Speaker 5: to talk about a guy who's built for that moment,
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  Speaker 5: who's experienced these moments, who, when asked after the game
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  Speaker 5: about all the vitriol he's faced over the years, has said,
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  Speaker 5: I love it. And part of the reason he loves
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  Speaker 5: it is that's his character. And part of the reason
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  Speaker 5: he loves it is because he's seen it again and
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  Speaker 5: again and again. He's been through these moments in a
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  Speaker 5: way that the Nationals haven't. And I think that's ultimately
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  Speaker 5: what you see in that moment, right is you see
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  Speaker 5: a great player, and you see a great matchup, but
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  Speaker 5: you see experience come through.
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  Speaker 1: You knew that he was going to deliver in that moment.
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  Speaker 1: That's the type of player that he is. And I
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  Speaker 1: think the real Nationals fans in the building last night
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  Speaker 1: when he stepped up to the plate, had a sense
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  Speaker 1: of what was about to happen. And I just want
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  Speaker 1: to say, as a Nationals fan, I wouldn't consider those
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  Speaker 1: real Nationals fans up in the right field section last night,
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  Speaker 1: some of them with their cheers towards Bryce. It's quite vulgar,
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  Speaker 1: it's quite inappropriate. Shows some class. Really, you know all
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  Speaker 1: that the man did of this city home run derby
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  Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, very special moment.
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  Speaker 4: Seriously, Frankie, You've been saying it all along.
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  Speaker 3: Man, I've been pissed a lot for the first day
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  Speaker 3: that I stepped in that booth. I don't get it.
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  Speaker 3: I'll never get it.
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  Speaker 1: Time's got chan.
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  Speaker 4: Uh? I might you really want to screw him up
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  Speaker 4: in the moment? I think they should.
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  Speaker 3: I've said this in years past. You have a standing no.
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  Speaker 3: See what happens. You would you want to throw somebody off?
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  Speaker 3: You have a standing no. You know, the more you booth,
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  Speaker 3: the louder you boo, the louder you drop an F
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  Speaker 3: bomb out there to him, the more probability down the
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  Speaker 3: more he calms down in the moment, and it is
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  Speaker 3: the most unbelievable thing. And I'll always go back Seattle,
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  Speaker 3: back in twenty fourteen. You know, he's young, he'd been strugging,
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  Speaker 3: just came off the al a little bit before, or
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  Speaker 3: maybe a month before, and he just wasn't feeling it
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  Speaker 3: and things started to click a little bit more.
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  Speaker 4: Right before we got to Seattle.
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  Speaker 3: We had an unbelievable series there and there was this
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  Speaker 3: guy that was sitting behind our dugout and just yelling, Harper, you.
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  Speaker 4: Suck, You're the worst hoer.
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  Speaker 3: Just like that, he had a bomb comes back kind
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  Speaker 3: of as one of these walks in, that guy got louder,
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  Speaker 3: and as the guy got louder, Bryce like kind of
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  Speaker 3: glanced over him in the ondexter gole in his last
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  Speaker 3: at bat, and he put one off the suits in Seattle.
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  Speaker 3: That was one of those that when he hit, all
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  Speaker 3: of us didn't even watch where the ball was. We
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  Speaker 3: went oh, and we went and pointed at that guy,
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  Speaker 3: and that guy walked out so fast, but that whole
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  Speaker 3: area was just like what are you doing? And everybody knew, like,
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  Speaker 3: just don't do it, because why you don't do that?
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  Speaker 3: To great players, and not everybody that's a great players
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  Speaker 3: is gonna be in the moment. The great player like
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  Speaker 3: harper Is takes those moments of hatred and vitriol and goes, ah,
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  Speaker 3: they're here. They're booming because they care. Thank you people.
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  Speaker 3: I'm in a homer. He's like this all the time.
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  Speaker 3: If anyone ever needed a killer moment, look at the
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  Speaker 3: NLCS when he hit the homer. I guess the Padres
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  Speaker 3: they have a mural as you're walking down in the
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  Speaker 3: media area down at Citizens Bank Park of that scene.
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  Speaker 3: The fan base is losing their mind. The team is
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  Speaker 3: losing their mind in races like this. Boom calm. You
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  Speaker 3: know when I say after that, I was like, why
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  Speaker 3: do you boo this guy? Because that moment is never
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  Speaker 3: going to be too big, right, Love the selling in
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  Speaker 3: that moment too.
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  Speaker 1: The name on the front means a hell of a
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  Speaker 1: lot more than the name on the back. Jump into
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  Speaker 1: our next subject here. It was not a terrific series
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  Speaker 1: for the National's leadoff hitter James Wooden. In the post game,
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  Speaker 1: I asked Butte about any consideration to maybe shake up
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  Speaker 1: the lineup given the production the Nats have gotten from
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  Speaker 1: the bottom half of late. But there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: confidence in James at the top of the order there.
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  Speaker 2: He's one of the best hitters in baseball and we
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  Speaker 2: love when he's up to bat, and opposing teams don't
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  Speaker 2: like it, and I told him, don't ever forget that.
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  Speaker 1: Now he just puts an incredible amount of pressure on
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  Speaker 1: the opposing team right off of the rip there. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious to your guys thoughts, you know, seeing the
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  Speaker 1: hot streak that Nuna's has been on the production they're
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  Speaker 1: starting to get from Cruise now, is there any thought
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  Speaker 1: in your mind to just slot them in the two,
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  Speaker 1: to just move them to the two.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, not one bit. I just think that.
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  Speaker 3: What he's done up there, and you go through these stretches,
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  Speaker 3: and it's been a while since we've had one of
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  Speaker 3: these stretches for Chames, but man, I think about that.
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  Speaker 3: The one the bat that epitomizes everything for me was
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  Speaker 3: Shuegart yesterday, one one count up and away fastball that
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  Speaker 3: just dotted the top corn and they called it a ball.
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  Speaker 3: It was like the first time that he'd been called
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  Speaker 3: the ball on something that was like in the like
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  Speaker 3: nicking the zone. But it was just a perfection of
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  Speaker 3: of where Shutgart went to that pitch. They were trying
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  Speaker 3: for the aim for it, they got it, and it's
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  Speaker 3: like they didn't get the call. But you're going like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: that's it. That's a stretch. And you go through these
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  Speaker 3: stretches as hitters, and James not as much as others
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  Speaker 3: because he's so great, but it's you fall behind oh one,
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  Speaker 3: O two. You're not into these deep counts like you
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  Speaker 3: normally are because teams have identified, they have found confidence
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  Speaker 3: in going to something and then at some at the
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  Speaker 3: same point they execute and they've executed. Uh, Tampa, they executed.
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  Speaker 3: He hasn't got a lot of I I've tried to
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  Speaker 3: go back and see how many hearts of the plate,
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  Speaker 3: you know, uh, pitches he's seen, and it's like Lesson,
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  Speaker 3: like phill Well.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a phenomenal pitching staff over there, but
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  Speaker 1: they certainly did not get much to work with this series.
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  Speaker 3: No, and that's what you're supposed to do, right, You
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  Speaker 3: marked that guy and you doubt it. You got to
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  Speaker 3: execute and they did.
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  Speaker 4: Yeh uh.
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  Speaker 1: One stat that caught me off guard about James the
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  Speaker 1: other day. I wasn't actually aware of this, but uh,
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  Speaker 1: talked about it in the pregame, I believe.
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  Speaker 4: Ahead of yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: But Tera brought to my attention he's already faced more
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  Speaker 1: pitchers than Teddy ball game. Let's hear about that real quick.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think we all know when he
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  Speaker 2: gets pitched so so hard. But we saw that stat
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  Speaker 2: the other day where he's like already faced more pitchers
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  Speaker 2: and Ted Williams in his career. It's insane. He's twenty
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  Speaker 2: three years.
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  Speaker 1: Old and that's just laughable. It had the entire that
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  Speaker 1: was your stat. Oh okay, that explains I couldn't.
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  Speaker 4: Talk about it here. I should have been saying more
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  Speaker 4: Ted Williams.
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  Speaker 3: Ted Williams, you should have paid more attention on this.
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  Speaker 3: I gotta be faced in seven and thirty two, I
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  Speaker 3: think career played appearances, he faced four hundred and forty
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  Speaker 3: seven guys and Michael Waco was four forty eight.
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  Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. What do you make of that? The state
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  Speaker 1: of the game right now, Franny, every boll it just
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  Speaker 1: dusted for matchups.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it just explains how for me, it explains how
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  Speaker 3: we should talk about the game and how different it
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  Speaker 3: is for as what fifteen thousand, I think he had
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  Speaker 3: fifteen thousand bad career play appearances as Pete Rose.
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  Speaker 4: He faced I don't even.
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  Speaker 3: Know the number of pictures, but it ended up being
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  Speaker 3: like twenty one times he would face that picture, right,
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  Speaker 3: That's what it came out to be.
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  Speaker 4: Over time. James is just at three.
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  Speaker 3: Ted Williams was twenty one point nine. And so when
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  Speaker 3: people go like, oh that, you know, these guys were
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  Speaker 3: so great, cool, that's awesome. They were great, but they
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  Speaker 3: faced the same dude every time. And it's not you're
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  Speaker 3: facing you weren't facing one hundred. You weren't facing the
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  Speaker 3: You're facing nasty stuff with shapes that are out of
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  Speaker 3: their mind, just based on how we're able to dictate.
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  Speaker 3: You know, this guy's this guy's sweeper plays off his
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  Speaker 3: cutter better than anything. But then we had a sacred
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  Speaker 3: If we add that, we can get our criss cross there,
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  Speaker 3: we can get that tunneling. We have more data, we
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  Speaker 3: have more cameras, we have everything that can help our pitchers.
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  Speaker 4: Mind f a hitter. They didn't have that. They throw
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  Speaker 4: beer in there in a hot dog.
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  Speaker 5: Exactly. And here's the follow through on that idea, right,
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  Speaker 5: is the rub on James or maybe the outside perspective
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  Speaker 5: on James when he was drafted, when he was traded
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  Speaker 5: to the Nationals, when he debuted was that this is
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  Speaker 5: an uper talented player. But outside spectators who didn't know
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  Speaker 5: anything about him and didn't know anything about his work ethic, said, Oh,
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  Speaker 5: he looks like he doesn't really care out there. He
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: doesn't look like he's trying things of that nature. You
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: can't play this modern game. You can't face these many pitchers.
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: You can't make the adjustments that James has made without
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: that care factor, without the details before the game, without
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: the conditioning after the game, without spending time on the iPad,
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: without being able to make adjustments and talking to teammates
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: and talking to coaches and leading hitters meetings, all the
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: stuff he's done this year and will continue to do
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: for the rest of his career. And so that's I
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: don't want to say what frustrates me about maybe the
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: outside perspective on James, But what is maybe a helpful
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: reminder for those who don't like for any year myself
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: spend time around James almost every day of the season,
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: is understanding both the caliber of pitching he's facing, but
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: also the work that goes into that night. You know,
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: it speaks to the mind, the talent, but it speaks
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: to the work ethic. I think for me as much
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: as anything.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: Guys. So, he's so smart.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: I love I love talking hitting with him. Yeah, because
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: it's not a twenty three year old. When you're talking
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: to him, you're you're like, it's like you're talking to
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: a guy who's got ten thousand career play appearances.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: And it's not a know it all answer.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: It's just the way that he is able to navigate
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: and a bat navigate a picture in their arsenal, navigate
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: what the timing of the game is.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: Like. He is so aware about all that.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: How many seasons does he need before I can officially
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: call him a vet Franny, because I mean he's looked
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: that way. He looks like a vet, right, I mean
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: season vet already.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: I would I would say that he's a season vet
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: for me.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: He's I mean, what does he have over two thousand
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: play appearances? Are close to it. He's a vet.
• 18:48
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• 18:57
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• 19:01
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• 19:03
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• 19:06
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• 20:17
  Speaker 1: And we are back really quickly. Let's just open with
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: the fact that CJ. Abrams is a finalist in All
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Star Game fan voting, but James Wood safe to say
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: that he's going to be a reserve. But uh, Franny,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: what's your call? Your pitch to Nats fans, like, we
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: got to get this guy in as a starter because
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: in that's history that that has not been historically the
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: case frequently fan vote.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: It sucks because you're going up against the fan base
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: that's showing up to the you know the game's more
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: than anybody else, and that's the Dodgers and Mookie Betts.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: My way to do it is just look at look
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: at numbers. If you have to. The numbers will tell
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: you everything. He's having a better season than pretty much
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: every shortstop in every category. There's not one thing that
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: I do. I don't think he trails Mookie and anything
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: really and so that's it. That's that's my pitch. So
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: figure it out. Get out there, vote as much you
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: can do whatever you.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Twenty eight fan bases.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Help us out here.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: You know, you know, y'all know the drill. You know
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: what it is.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: It's it's it's fascinating to think that, uh, you know,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: they got the they got it right as far as
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: leading the way right like with short stops initially, but
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: it was way too close.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Uh really quickly, I want to talk about some of
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: the transactions that happen after Wednesday night's game and Thursday
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: night's game as well, because Parson palm Quist, I keep
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: wanting to say, palm Schmidt.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: I don't know why.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Carson palm Quist. He pitched pretty well. And here's Blake
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Petera on how he pitched after the game and what
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: they might want to see from him going forward.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: A little bit of those We knew we were over
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: extending him there, but also with how he looked, we
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: want to give him opportunity to pitch more and get
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: through marsh and Harper a second time.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: And he threw the ball grade and what she solving.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: Is that make you want to see before him?
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it does. It does he threw the ball?
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: Well, we'll see.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Obviously, we're gonna have to figure out what our bullpen
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: looks like now that he'll be down a handful of days.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: But was really really pleased with how he threw the ball.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Of course, that was not to be the case because
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: the Nationals clean Justin Lawrence off of waivers and activated him,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: and more recently, last night, gus of Varland was optioned
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: to Triple A but asked Uterra about Lawrence joining the bullpen.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: He had an interesting story about a scouting report that
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Curtis Mead had on the right hand.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know what's funny is that Curtis Mead so
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: this will be Justin's third team this year when he
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: was placed on waivers earlier this year, the first time
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Curtis was like, hey, do we have any interest in
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Justin Lawrence? I'm like, why, what do you got? And
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: He's like, that's the best pitcher I've ever faced. I'm
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: like really, So last night during the game, this was
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: probably like six weeks ago, I think it was, and
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: then last night during the game. Curtis like, hey, do
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: you have anything to tell me. I'm like, what do
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: you mean. He's like, we claimed a new picture, right,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I'm like yeah, justin He was like, yeah, I told
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: you he's really good. I'm like, all right, well, make
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: sure you tell him that when he comes in and
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: he's the best picture you ever faced. Give him some
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: confidence when he walks.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: In the doors.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: But no, he's really good stuff. I know the walk
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: rate was a little bit higher than normal most recently,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: but overall, it's a tough look for righties. It's good velocity.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: It's someone that's been there, done that, excited to see
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: what our pitching group can do with him when they
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: get their hands on him.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Now, is Blake finished? There a guy who's been there
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: and done that, thirty one years old, not like he's
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: been around up. He's been around quite a few organizations.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: He's seen quite a few hitters. But Kevin, what can
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: that do for a youthful bullpen in June in the
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: middle of potential playoff push here?
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: He got to get him right first. More than it
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: has any effect on the young bullpen. You have a
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: guy that is nasty when he can throw strikes, but
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: that's been his big issue always is being able to
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: throw strikes. And of late, if any you know, talking
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: to Derek Shelton about him, who managed him in Minnesota
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: this year, he said, if anyone could figure out how
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: to get him to throw strikes consistently, you have something
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: that's just filthy. The stuff is just filthy. But it
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter. Bigig hitters, we don't care. If you don't
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: throw strikes. You don't throw strikes like, so be it,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: and you're gonna fall behind. The fall behind numbers when
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: he's ahead and behind are just you know, ridiculous when
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: you look at it over the last year plus, right,
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: and so for him throwing strikes, getting in that bullpen,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: so he for him, it really is about trying to
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: learn his way right like right away, like it's it's
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: about him getting acclimated, but also like he's got to
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: find his way. His secret as a minus ten run value,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: his sweeper as of minus four run value this year,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: a head behind one when he's ahead, three sixteen when
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: he's behind. In the last couple of weeks, I mean
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: it was two thirty one eight fifty seven. That was
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: the average six for seven Bay when he was behind
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: the count. So I'm just trying to look at this
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: as he's got to figure out a way to get
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: things going.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I will add or maybe every single thing Franny
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: just said is correct. I also think you hear all
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: of that and you go, why are the Nationalists taking
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: a chance on him? No, this is the exact type
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: of arm I think the Nationals need to be taken
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: a percents on, right. Yeah, they need guys with stuff
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: in the bullpen. They need guys with upside. They need
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: guys who you look at the arm and you look
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: at what comes out of their hand and say, can
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: this one day pitch in a high leverage inning. And I'm
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: not saying that's going to be tomorrow. I'm not saying
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: they're going to fix his command because that's that's something
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: that is not easyzy and could take time. But compare
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: that to the alternative, which is finding another arm out
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: there who you know throws ninety three and mixes things
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: up and is a is a weird look, but hasn't
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: done it before all these different things. If you're asking
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: me which of those arms I'm going to bank on,
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: it's the guy who throws stuff and try to find
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: the command as opposed to the alternative.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Right, I'll go real quick. I mean because you.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, you have a brother that's been with the
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Raise for a long time, and you talk about this
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: and what they find and this is kind of like
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: what they've done right in the past. And it's not
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: saying that the Nats are going to become the Rais.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: They try it. You you should when it comes to
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: moves like this at times. But what is it that
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: you feel like those teams that continuously build these these
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: bullpens you wrote about it this week, I mean, find
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: swing and miss.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Well, they find swinging miss, they find outlier talent,
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: they find uniqueness, they find things that make guys special,
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: and instead of trying too hard to build the other
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: parts of their game, they them further into it, just
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: dive further into that strength. And that's something that when
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: I've been talking to people around the Nationals, they're they're
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: doing the same thing in the minor leagues right now,
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: you know. And once they're able to through the draft,
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: through trades, find even more pitchers who potentially fit that
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: mold of guys that they think they can develop. They
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: think that this thing can really take off. But I
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: haven't talked to anyone that said, hey, they figured this
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: thing out, you know what I mean, Like this is
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: still a work in progress. But the best teams in
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: baseball developable pens internally, at least largely do or they
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: find guys who have been cast out by other organizations,
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: tell them to lean into their strains, help them lean
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: into their strengths, and then figure it out from there.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: And so much of it comes down to the stuff.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: And if you just don't have that, it's really hard
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: to win at the major league level.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: I'd even add on spencer to your point, like, it's
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: not something that needs to be figured out tomorrow, next month. Hell,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: even this season, we are years ahead. That's fans of
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: where we are expected to be back in March. And
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: if you see flashes of it this season, that is
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: an encouraging sign. A guy that absolutely went off in
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: this series in Philadelphia, Luis Garcia Junior, three straight games
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: with the home run, but not just the home runs,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: working the walks. Manager Blakey Tarra speaking about his selection
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: at the plate of late, I really.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Think he's done a better job of pitch selection these
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: last few days, Specifically if he can continue this, I
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: think you're going to continue to see a lot of
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: success from him. But he's worked a couple of walks
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: and it's like he smiles the dugout every time he walks,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: because it's been a thing where there, you know, we
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: have some guys in competitions to see who can walk more,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: and it's like we talked about too, I want to say,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: probably six or eight weeks ago, and we talked about
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: increasing some walk rates and focusing on swim decisions a
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: big part of Louis's game. Where we think he's had
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: some good success already, what we think can take him
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: to that next level is simplifying, you know, and being
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: a little bit more stubborn with his approach. And he
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: knows he can hit everything, but we know that he
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: can drive certain pitches in certain locations and we've asked
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: him to focus on those spots. And he's had a
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: couple more walks recently, so I think when you see
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: him walking, you're probably gonna see him swing the bat
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: pretty well.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Also, Spencer, we talked about this one or two shows
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: ago about what an incredible bad ball hitter he is.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: But Kevin, if he can tap into that ability, to
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: hit those pitches. We know he hits well, how good
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: could Luis Garcia be as an offensive player?
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: I think you're seeing it.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: This is like I think this is ceiling when it
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: comes to that, and that's not a bad thing, right,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Like there's but I also think that there's if you're
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: a swinger, you're a swinger, and these these things are
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: going to ebb and flow like no other when it
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: comes to walks.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: And all that. It's being more selective in the moment.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: I think it's no in the moment, like when when
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: do expand when not to Why is he so good
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: with runners at third few than two? Because he expands
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: he knows he can, but he hits ball hard when
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: he hits it on the ground, so balls get through
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: or balls get to a point where he puts the
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: ball in play, and that guy scores.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: That's a great talent to have. That's a great talent
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: to have.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: He's good with runners of scorrems just because he expands
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: a little bit. Okay, so when no one no one's on,
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: that's that moment that you kind of like, go, okay,
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: let's back off and let's try to figure out how
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: can I draw that walk. How can I this guy
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: I don't match up well against, How can I battle
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: him to a point where you know I'm going to
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: be a threat now because I'm on the base. And
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: that's that's the thing that he's got to get to.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: He's got to pick and choose his moments of when
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: that selectivity is going to be be there, because I
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: feel like you can't just sit there and say take
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: it out, be and walk.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: You can't just walk. It's got to be a part
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: of like the flow of.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: The game for him in the moment because he's a
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: free swinger, and then you just sometimes can't take that
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: out of people. So when we get those walks, you
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: gotta love it. You just gotta have more guys. We've
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: talked about this diversity in the lineup. You gotta have
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: more guys around him that walk in which they do
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: right with Curtis, Meat and Woody and we're hopefully seeing
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: CJ do that again as he had one of the
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: best at bats of the year the other night. Uh
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: what twelve pitches fouling off stuff, just nasty and swing
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: mode and finds a way to get on that was
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: CJ earlier and that's like if they can get him
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: go on to that again.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: Oh wow, right, and well that's part of the strength
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: of this Oregon. Honestly why I found Butterre's answer a
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: little bit surprising on this front. And I know again
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: he's gonna want those guys to draw walks more without
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: changing their approach and maybe a delivery or messaging thing
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: to us more than anything. But one of the strengths
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: of what they've done is they haven't, as we talked
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: about with the pitchers, they haven't tried to get guys
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: away from who they naturally are. Right Like Kybert, we
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: talked about it before. His his chase rate hasn't changed, right,
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: But they've just made him better at the stuff that
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: he can be better at, which is he can swing harder.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: He just hasn't and he can still make contact when
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: he does it, he can pull the ball in the air.
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: It's just hey, can you do it more? And he
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: has with Louie.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: It's kind of the same thing.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: It's swinging a little harder, he's elevating the ball more
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: than he has in the past. But we've seen him
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: do it in spurts before, and we've we've never seen
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: over an extended chick extended stretch him have a low
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: chase rate, right, I think his j rates up over
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: forty percent this year. That's a massive number for people
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: who aren't like looking at Baseball Savant all day.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: And I think that what you.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: Just a little bit, but I genuinely think what what
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  Speaker 5: but Terra is speaking to here is they believe that
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  Speaker 5: they have Louis in the right spot. And so if
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  Speaker 5: they're gonna tinker and they're gonna make any little adjustment
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  Speaker 5: maximized the other stuff out now and now you can
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  Speaker 5: finally work on the chase rate where it's not Hey,
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  Speaker 5: are we getting you to even thirty five percent? Can
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  Speaker 5: were speaking to Franny, can we do it in situational spots,
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  Speaker 5: you know where it makes sense?
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: through on Monday in that episode. But really quickly, let's
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: pop over and look at Friday's pitching preview. Andrew Alvarez
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: gets the rock last time out in Tampa. He was sharp,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: just one run over four innings and six strikeouts. But
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Treffor Rodgers was phenomenal in Los Angeles his last time out,
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  Speaker 1: seven innings, a shutout, ball, just one hit, not a
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  Speaker 1: big strikeout guy. But Franny, what are the Nats bats
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  Speaker 1: need to do to get to Trevor tonight?
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  Speaker 3: Do the same thing they did last night against Christopher Sanchez.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they had you talk about how great of
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: an approach they had against him.
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  Speaker 4: They laid off a lot of crap. They just want
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: of missed plenty.
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  Speaker 3: That's because he's got elite stuff, and I mean it's
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: a look where you're getting it far out towards the
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  Speaker 3: first pace side. Still you got to, you know, bring
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  Speaker 3: your sights up in the zone and you hope that
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: there's a few mistakes, but don't get discouraged when things
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: don't go right. So the first inning was great, second
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: name not great. The fact that they responded in the
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: third inning against Christopher Sanchez again last night is one
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  Speaker 3: of those impressive things. They got to do that again
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: and then again. This team, the the young, youthful offensive guys,
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: what they have shown, it's freaking impressive. Man, Like you
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: get you get your you know, the gut punch. I
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: was gonna say other stuff, but you feel like that
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: scene in Dumb and Dumber where he fights the guy
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  Speaker 3: and he's right there to you know, the lower section.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: That's what it's felt like the last couple of days.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: And they've bounced back. So uh, I just look like
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: that and and bring that in more than anything. It's
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: almost like they got to bring in uh a Miami
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: type energy when you play like you have to like
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: bring this out of like because it affects the energy
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: the things that have happened last couple of days, and
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: they got to bring it.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: They gotta find a way yes, I would have.
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  Speaker 5: I would have forgiven them right if they hadn't in
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: one of these last three games.
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  Speaker 4: They just fight. They fight, it's not what they do.
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  Speaker 1: And Nats, how about that is a new nickname?
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  Speaker 4: No more scrappy. No, do not go to the scrappy
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  Speaker 4: ever again. I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm removing that from my bare That's that's gone.
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  Speaker 4: That was years ago. That was you can't go there either.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I guess that. Yeah, no, not the time
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  Speaker 1: for that either. Let's pop over the National League's standings
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  Speaker 1: really quickly. The Nats back at five hundred, at forty
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  Speaker 1: one and forty one, eight and a half back of
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: the Braves leading the division, and now they find themselves
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: three games out of the wildcard picture of the Phillies
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  Speaker 1: with a one and a half game lead at the top.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: There at forty five thirty six, guys, deadline approaching hard
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: buye soft cell. Let's talk about in Bunday's episode. But
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: you know, thank you guys for the extended time today.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: You know, this is a bit of like a group
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: therapy session for me to make sense of what the
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: hell just happened over the last three days. But they're
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: gonna be straighten the ship tonight baseball. It's a crazy
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: game and you going to Baltimore ready to fight like that.
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  Speaker 1: Anything guys want toss in before we head out, it's
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: all I got.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: I got one thing other than you know, the stuff
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: that happened with Harper at the end. With the fans,
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: the fan base for the four game series, hell of
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: a job.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: Way to go. There's moments and then they got loud
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: and love it, and.
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  Speaker 3: I just think that that's that's been missing and it
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: was there, and it's like, it sucks when you get
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: the three games enders like that because you feel like
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: a man, why alway show up? Keep showing up. These
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: boys are going to too. So it was awesome. It
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: was a good atmosphere great not even good great atmosphere.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Appreciate it and let's keep it going.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: If you're not rocking with me at forty one and
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: forty one, don't talk to me at the end of September.
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  Speaker 1: But we'll see you all in Monday's episode. Until then,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: see you later.