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- 0:06OK, welcome to Into the Channel podcast premiere about 1
- 0:09football. I'm your host Dean of the
- 0:10suspicious and as always, I'm joined by my Co host Mr. Grant
- 0:15Angle. What's up, man?
- 0:17I'm feeling all right, buddy. That was a There were some
- 0:20things to take away from that football match.
- 0:23I'll say 1 early take away. I didn't expect the OK to be
- 0:26that long. Usually the length of the OK is
- 0:30usually commensurate with the level of excitement.
- 0:32I'm glad to to see you're this excited about the show tonight.
- 0:36I figured one second per goal and I I came in right around
- 0:40that. So a little spoiler alert, you
- 0:43guys got busy tonight. We'll get into it.
- 0:46But with that said, yeah, pretty much just one match on the
- 0:49docket. So this this should be no more
- 0:52than a formality Mr. Grant angle.
- 0:53Where do we get started? Yeah.
- 0:55I mean, weren't able to watch the friendly between Sweden and
- 0:59Norway, unfortunately not broadcast anywhere we could
- 1:03watch in the US of A. So how about we start with
- 1:07United States of America for Republic of Ireland, no.
- 1:11I'm with it. Let's do it.
- 1:14So take people behind their curtain.
- 1:16We're recording a little bit later.
- 1:18I got a late start, so I just finished watching the match.
- 1:20I haven't had a chance to taking any of the Internet activity,
- 1:23any of the post game pressers. I'm I'm still trying to figure
- 1:27out where I land with regard to, you know, you look at some of
- 1:31the stats. I think it's 26 shots attempted
- 1:34to one for Ireland, You know, so that right, right, right off the
- 1:37bat, you can kind of see the disparity between these two
- 1:39teams. But on the same note, I thought
- 1:42there was some really good moments from the US You know, I
- 1:45think we, we continue to see some of that evolution of the
- 1:48attack. We're seeing a lot of diversity.
- 1:51We're seeing shots taken from different angles, we're seeing
- 1:54of different combinations we've never seen before.
- 1:56So I don't know, am I at risk of like sort of like looking too
- 2:00much into some of these positive outcomes or is this just the
- 2:04first ranked team versus the 25th, 26th ranked team and this
- 2:09was just basically par for the course?
- 2:10What what? What should be the take away?
- 2:12I think it's OK to have the takeaways of there were things
- 2:19that really went well and they should have gone well because
- 2:22this is the number one ranked FIFA team versus the number 25
- 2:25ranked FIFA team. And just as we as we go through
- 2:28this, we're going to use some some terminology here.
- 2:32And I don't mean any disrespect to the Republic of Ireland.
- 2:34You know, they no Katie McCabe, no Denise O'Sullivan.
- 2:39So nobody came into this match thinking that this was going to
- 2:42be level terms in in in the in the scope of talent on the
- 2:47field. But I think it's OK to be like,
- 2:49hey, that there were things that happened that were really good
- 2:52for USA. Are they going to be able to do
- 2:54those things against the elite teams of the world all the time?
- 2:57Maybe not, but probably should be able to some of the time.
- 3:00I think so and I think before we before we get into it, let's
- 3:04cheers to a good performance, you know, independent of the
- 3:09competition. They went out and did their
- 3:11thing and I'm happy about that. That's what you gotta do.
- 3:17Cheers. Just not her doing.
- 3:18We got cheers to you. Yeah, exactly.
- 3:21You know, and I'll say like when I say some of the terms that I'm
- 3:24going to use, and again, I mean this with no, no disrespect to
- 3:27Ireland, it was an ass kicking and it probably should have been
- 3:30an ass kicking. Like they, you know, they come
- 3:32over here, they got to play in the altitude and and go up
- 3:36against this team full of like young stars who are all fighting
- 3:41for spots on one of the most competitive teams in the world.
- 3:45Like there there really weren't many other ways this was
- 3:47supposed to go. No, no total arse kicking.
- 3:51I, I, you look at some of the, the, the make up.
- 3:54This wasn't the fastest team that we've seen Emma Hayes put
- 3:58forward, right. But I think physically that this
- 4:02was just a really powerful team. You know, like you, you watch,
- 4:06whether it's Avery Patterson or Claire Hutton or Sam Coffey or
- 4:11Emily Sonnet, like when the ball gets struck, like these passes
- 4:15have such weight to them. These runs have such Thunder to
- 4:19them. I think it really put put
- 4:21Ireland on on notice. The other thing I I picked up on
- 4:24pretty early was EU s s interest in putting diagonal balls over
- 4:30the top, but not like the looping balls over the top.
- 4:33They were kind of like these stinging aerial balls like
- 4:36designed to kind of like switch field really quickly.
- 4:38And and in a couple spots they went left to right to then back
- 4:42left. Whether it was with one or pass
- 4:44or two passes. They just made Ireland play a
- 4:46ton of defense, kind of like going left to right, just kind
- 4:49of swaying in the breeze and just really made them work.
- 4:52And I think it wasn't so much about can we beat this team over
- 4:55the top and just have them chase us?
- 4:57It was like, let's let's make them work a little bit.
- 4:59Let's wear them out. And you know, we haven't seen a
- 5:02ton of four Nils under M Hayes. So I think this this a pretty
- 5:07encouraging scoreline for them to like really, you know, put up
- 5:11goals in line with basically like the disparity between these
- 5:15two teams from a talent standpoint like you were talking
- 5:16about. Yeah, I think that's totally
- 5:18fair. And I like it because, you know,
- 5:20when Lily Ohana says appeared in previous matches, we talked a
- 5:25lot about a lot of those diagonal aerial passes.
- 5:28And she was, you know, passing Michelle Cooper even further
- 5:32open than she usually is, passing Alyssa Thompson even
- 5:34further open than she usually is.
- 5:36It almost seemed like other players were like, hey, we want
- 5:39to try that too. Like we're we're capable of
- 5:40doing that too, just to, you know, make sure that they have
- 5:43their spot in the rotation. I I also want to comment on what
- 5:48you had mentioned with the physicality.
- 5:50This is not breaking news. We've been watching the NWSL.
- 5:53We've watched the bats over there at Gotham FC.
- 5:57Lily Reel, 5 foot 9, great size, physical player.
- 6:02I thought, you know, in her first cap, just kind of walked
- 6:05out there and, you know, we talked about this with Carrie
- 6:08Abello, just another player who seems to be like, yeah, I'm
- 6:11here. Like I I should be wearing this
- 6:13Crest also. I just just seemed supremely
- 6:16confident in her first minutes with the senior national team.
- 6:19Very cool to see Lily Real. Yeah, Lily real was like, yeah,
- 6:22I'm here and I could do all the stuff.
- 6:23Like just tell me what stuff you need and I'll do all the stuff.
- 6:26No problem. I think we Emma Hayes was doing
- 6:29something really interesting early where the wingers were
- 6:33kind of squeezing, kind of pinching in both Alyssa Thompson
- 6:36and Cooper, which was just giving a lot of space to
- 6:39Patterson. It kind of gave Patterson and
- 6:41reel on the other side the option to either stay wide or
- 6:44bring it in. And then there then there'd be
- 6:46the overlap. And then the other thing is like
- 6:49these rotations that we keep hearing about from Emma Hayes.
- 6:52And I think when I when you think about the Sam Coffey goal,
- 6:54the second goal that comes from one of those double switches
- 6:59that I was talking about where it goes left to right or.
- 7:02I'm sorry, yeah, left to right, then right back to left.
- 7:05And then because Sam Coffey is filling the space right because
- 7:10the, you know, all the players have kind of rotated over.
- 7:12She's basically like the last rotation and then she's left
- 7:15there with nobody defending, you know, which is just not what
- 7:19we're used to seeing. And all that comes from is just
- 7:21simple, you know, sort of like connecting passes and and making
- 7:25the defense work. Did you pick up on anything, you
- 7:29know, from from a passing standpoint or from a creativity
- 7:32standpoint? I mean, it's, it's a very
- 7:34different looking US attack than I think we're used to.
- 7:37Yeah, I think they they just showed, you know, so we've
- 7:41already talked about some of those diagonal aerial balls, and
- 7:44then you talk about kind of the swinging of some of the passes.
- 7:47You talk about the coffee goal. That leads to yet another big
- 7:51shrug from her. I think Julie Foudy on the
- 7:54broadcast referred to it as the why not celebration, which I
- 7:57kind of like reminiscent of Joey Bosa for Ohio State Buckeyes.
- 8:02Like when they won that national championship, he used to just
- 8:05maul dudes, maul the quarterback and then get up and do a shrug,
- 8:08which I think is kind of funny. I can see Sam Coffee being the
- 8:11Joey Bosa of the US National, Yeah.
- 8:14Just not get just not injury prone.
- 8:15No offense to Joey Bosa, obviously he's a legend.
- 8:17But that Coffee goal too, you talk about the swinging nature
- 8:22of it. As soon as the ball gets to
- 8:24Thompson, Coffee knows how open she's going to be.
- 8:28Thompson knows how open she's going to be.
- 8:30And, you know, she's kind of over, if I remember it
- 8:32correctly, she's like over Thompson's left shoulder as just
- 8:36like she knew where Coffee was going to be running into that
- 8:38space. And it's just kind of an easy
- 8:41goal. And like when you've talked
- 8:43about in the past few episodes, some of the key pieces of this
- 8:47squad moving forward, building that chemistry, I think it's
- 8:51pretty obvious one to point to Alyssa Thompson, Sam Coffee in
- 8:55in Sharpie, No doubt on any squad moving forward.
- 8:59I'm glad. You brought this up.
- 9:00I wrote my notes. I've got my little Sharpie crew
- 9:02here because I mean, I know that, you know, we're in Emily
- 9:07Fox territory and they mentioned on the broadcast or Avery
- 9:10Patterson, can you play on the right or left, play both,
- 9:13whatever, etcetera. You know, they had a little a
- 9:14good chuckle about that. But Avery Patterson, I mean big
- 9:20chunks of this match where I'm just like, that's our best
- 9:22player. Like that's a player, that's a
- 9:24player that can't do anything with her.
- 9:28You just, you just can't do anything.
- 9:30Yeah, the defense is in big trouble.
- 9:32When she has the ball, she tracks back.
- 9:34She's smart. She's a smart defender as well.
- 9:37Like you were pointing out, she's incredibly dangerous on
- 9:41the wing. She can cut the ball in.
- 9:43When she cuts the ball in, she's equally dangerous.
- 9:46I don't know. You want do you want to say it?
- 9:50I mean, Emily Fox plays for Arsenal.
- 9:52She's a Champions League winner. What?
- 9:53What do you think? Who's a Who's a better player
- 9:55buddy? I mean, you know, why do we have
- 10:01to choose? I mean, these are great players.
- 10:03We really have to make that kind of decision.
- 10:06But I mean, Patterson's, she's got that, you know, like she's
- 10:11got that air of this might be the team's best player in three
- 10:16years, two years. Like I think we could, we could
- 10:19be heading in that direction. But I think when you look at,
- 10:22like I said, Patterson, Hutton, we talked about the torture
- 10:25chamber, the midfield, Patterson and Hutton coffee is nothing you
- 10:30could do, like just just nothing.
- 10:33And then that frees up Roosevelt in a huge way to just be
- 10:37creative, be Roosevelt. You talked about, you know, sort
- 10:40of like players, like learning from other players and from some
- 10:43of the vets. It was so funny to see Roosevelt
- 10:45pull off a couple different back heels.
- 10:48And then what happens in the third goal, Claire Hutton's
- 10:50like, I'm going to do that. I can do that, like just like my
- 10:54turn or I want to move it along. And and I wrote down the whole
- 10:57sequence of that third goal because it was just absolutely
- 11:00nuts. So it goes Dicky, Dicky, Germa,
- 11:05Sonnet, Patterson, Hutton. That's where the back heel comes
- 11:09in. Cooper, Setnor, Lavelle.
- 11:12Like, come on, man. That's well, part of it is like
- 11:15Ireland just decided that they don't want to play anymore.
- 11:17Just like I don't want to run fast anymore.
- 11:19I'm like trying to try and pull the muscle.
- 11:21But brilliant team goal. I mean, you get 7 or 8 different
- 11:25players touching the ball and just each of them touching it
- 11:27once and then just kind of moving it along.
- 11:29And I don't love that. Love those rotations, love the
- 11:32ball movement. I think that's totally fair.
- 11:35I just want to, I just want to state this for the record, even
- 11:38though you're the Arsenal guy, I think today, as it stands on
- 11:43June 26th, 2025, I think Emily Fox is a better player than
- 11:48Avery Patterson. But how long do I think that
- 11:51will hold? I'm not sure.
- 11:54Probably not, probably not crazy long.
- 11:56And Emily Fox is great. So I think that's, that's good
- 11:59news for the US women's national team.
- 12:02But to, to your point, yeah, that team goal, you know, it's
- 12:06incredible. It comes shortly at what gives,
- 12:08like 8 minutes after they they get out of the half.
- 12:11I think players talk about in every match, even in, you know,
- 12:14some of the matches where it doesn't go as well in the first
- 12:17half. The players always seem to talk
- 12:19about Emma Hayes very candidly, pointing out what they could
- 12:23have done better in the first half and what they need to do in
- 12:26the second-half to to get a a goal or or more to see Rose
- 12:31Lavelle walk in, in this in this match.
- 12:34I thought for sure, and I think they mentioned this on the
- 12:36broadcast too. I thought for sure she would be
- 12:38off at halftime because that's the most we've seen her play in
- 12:41the NWSL so far. I think she played finally
- 12:44played a full half in this last match before the break, but she
- 12:47comes on and she gets the goal after getting the assist, which
- 12:50takes me to my next thing. He kind of moved past it
- 12:54quickly, especially I, and I was surprised on the first goal of
- 12:58the match. This is the Dino de Cespedes
- 13:00year of the short corner. Can we at least rewind and talk
- 13:04about the short corner for the opener?
- 13:05I, I like you, were the first person I thought of when I saw
- 13:08that. Yeah, no, that's my bet.
- 13:10And again, this is a function of having just finished watching
- 13:13the match. So that short corner in my mind
- 13:15was, yeah, it might, it might as well have been a week ago.
- 13:18But yeah, the short quarter, the first thing I remember about
- 13:20that one was Cooper before the corner just chasing down a ball
- 13:27versus nobody and running as fast as she possibly could.
- 13:30She reaches the ball quick pivot, whips it back in and the
- 13:35the Ireland defense just doesn't know what to do with it.
- 13:36They kind of fumble it out. And that's how the the corner
- 13:39comes about literally out of a nothing hustle play from
- 13:42Michelle Cooper. And then Michelle Cooper not
- 13:45done hustling because she she then spreads straight to the
- 13:48corner. And you could hear on the
- 13:50broadcast short, short, short. I'm not sure.
- 13:52Like if you go back and like check it out, you can hear it
- 13:55and they just go to Lavelle and then Lavelle gets to walk it in
- 13:59another 9-10 yards and then is able to pick out Patterson from
- 14:04there. Until defenses start doing
- 14:08something over the short corner, having two players that are
- 14:11incredibly accurate from that part of the field is just going
- 14:15to continue to be a devastating weapon.
- 14:18And it's like I it's weird because I haven't been covering
- 14:21the sport long enough to the sort of know all the intricacies
- 14:24of like why the short corner pisses off so many people.
- 14:26But to me it seems obvious. It's like you're overloading,
- 14:29you're creating a mismatch and make make them stop it.
- 14:33And instead of taking that long corner, you're just taking one
- 14:36from 2/3 the distance from a better angle.
- 14:39And when you have a player like Roosevelt who couldn't, who
- 14:41couldn't make some magic out of it, and Patterson, who fading
- 14:45away was able to generate power, you know, for the finish, I mean
- 14:49that that's, that's how you open a match right there.
- 14:52Yeah, and, and the way you frame it and you framed it this way
- 14:55for months now, even when we would see Barcelona use the
- 14:58short corner where, you know, they'll run it with Mappy and
- 15:02bone with T. And it's just like, to your
- 15:04point, like 2 just absolutely devastating passers who can also
- 15:08shoot and score from distance. But the the term you always use
- 15:12that I like is you, you're essentially walking the ball in
- 15:16further. And so they're kind of like
- 15:18calibrating, setting it up like, OK, who's going to be open?
- 15:20Well, how do I want to hit this? And you know, Lavelle struck it
- 15:24so cleanly that even with Patterson kind of doing that
- 15:27little bit of fade away, you know, she obviously hits it just
- 15:30right on her forehead. But the the cross had enough
- 15:33pace on it to where she was able to generate generate enough
- 15:36power to get it past Brosnan. So obviously, you know, the year
- 15:40the short corner continues. I was I was happy to see it
- 15:44defenders still unhappy to see it.
- 15:47I think I saw something, I can't remember if it was one of the
- 15:49Neville Brothers or somebody put a thing on social media of them
- 15:54asking Manchester United great player Paul Scholes about the
- 15:58short corner and I believe his quote was it's shite.
- 16:03So Paul Scholes, not a fan of the short corner, but I will say
- 16:07seems to be pretty effective right now.
- 16:09Yeah, I mean, Paul, you could, I would go check out another show,
- 16:12my bro. I mean, this, this thing is
- 16:13effective. And maybe it's a maybe it's a
- 16:16function of the men's game versus the woman's game.
- 16:18Doesn't I'm not really, again, I'm not really.
- 16:20That's a little bit above my pay grade.
- 16:21All I know is that that you could just see teams squeezing
- 16:25tremendous amounts of value out of this.
- 16:28And the crazy part is there's even a counter to the counter
- 16:32because as long as Cooper can get back on side, even if you
- 16:36run Roosevelt off the ball after she's gotten that advantageous
- 16:40positioning, she could get it right back to Cooper, who again,
- 16:45is in a better spot than she would have been from the corner
- 16:47spot. So I don't know, it could be
- 16:50just one of these things where the with the games kind of
- 16:51evolving pretty quickly, or maybe the the skills are at a
- 16:54point where now the short corner could just be something that you
- 16:57need to to really keep employing.
- 17:00The other thing I think that that we won't really see too
- 17:03much, you know, or we won't see it all the time was the way that
- 17:08Alyssa Thompson was was getting defended, which was basically
- 17:11backpedaled as furiously as you can.
- 17:14Yeah, keep her in front of you. And I think that the, the, what
- 17:18happens then is the defense takes away some of those like
- 17:22shots from distance, even if you can get pace on them because
- 17:25they've, they've backed off properly, which is why we kept
- 17:28continuing to score off passes. We weren't scoring off just kind
- 17:32of like one-on-one, just cooking people out there.
- 17:34Again, I, I really love the ball movement.
- 17:36I love the creativity when you have a player like Roosevelt.
- 17:40I mean, I'm the the basketball player, the comp I got for Rose
- 17:43with CP3, you know, just oh wow, creative could score, could
- 17:46could dish, could just do anything.
- 17:48But ultimately can make every right decision and then can
- 17:52execute once that, you know, that that processing power has
- 17:55made that decision. She could put the ball right
- 17:57where she's decided that it needs to go.
- 17:59Yeah, I like that as a comp and again, just good to see her out
- 18:03there and then she, you know, she comes back goal in an
- 18:06assist. Easy money for the legend coming
- 18:09back in. Cincinnati, I kept.
- 18:12I kept thinking about it. I, you know what I I was like, I
- 18:17think I'm going to make it my thing to start talking about
- 18:19what city these these players are from it, it's fun.
- 18:22I think about, I think you compared it.
- 18:25I think you compared it to Musburger.
- 18:27I like AI was more of a Keith Jackson guy growing up.
- 18:31He was fantastic and he loved a Whoa Nelly, which, you know, I
- 18:36love that phrase. Also, Speaking of Whoa Nelly,
- 18:40though, what do you say we talk about the fourth and final goal
- 18:44of this match? Are you fucking kidding me with
- 18:46this Alyssa Thompson goal? I mean.
- 18:50A player that you called out earlier, Lily Reel, you know,
- 18:53she wins a, you know, a 4951 ball.
- 18:56You know, like showing good hustle again late in the match,
- 19:00puts a wicked ball up the sideline from from an angle that
- 19:04you're just not supposed to be able to do that.
- 19:06And then Thompson, Thompson gets that outside inside touch and
- 19:10kind of like just dances right past Stapleton and basically
- 19:14runs her off the frame was just was in the picture, then out of
- 19:18the picture, even though that shouldn't shouldn't be possible.
- 19:23Cuts it inside and then just slaps the inside of the post in
- 19:27a goal that was absolutely coming.
- 19:30You could kind of see Alyssa's hunger in this match and just be
- 19:34like, yeah, she was she was definitely looking for it.
- 19:37An extra breath, an extra kind of like, let me lower my my
- 19:40heart rate, another couple BPMS, just calm myself down.
- 19:44And then just smacked it off the like a great sound effect to hit
- 19:48the post. For sure.
- 19:51Yeah. I mean, unbelievable.
- 19:52You know, however many yards. It's like somewhere in the
- 19:56ballpark of like a 50 yard run at that point for her to get
- 19:59into. Like you, you've been talking
- 20:01about it all season, all all NWSL season.
- 20:04She's on an absolute heater. I think we'd made some jokes
- 20:07about her national team form possibly being considered for
- 20:11her NWSLMVP campaign that you are the Chief campaign officer
- 20:17for. You know, she just continues to
- 20:19impress. And I think there's been some,
- 20:21including from me where it's like, well, OK, do you want to
- 20:25play Ally Centenor or Alyssa Thompson on the wing?
- 20:29And I, I just like the move from Emma Hayes to be like, I want to
- 20:33play Ally Centenor at the 9:00 today and play Ally and play
- 20:37Alyssa Thompson on the left wing.
- 20:39And I thought that worked. I mean, you know, Centenor gets
- 20:41the assist on the on the LaBelle goal.
- 20:44And I thought they they worked in tandem pretty well.
- 20:47It seems like some of their it seems like their style of play
- 20:50can kind of feed off each other a little bit.
- 20:53Well, I think it has to do with the rotations again.
- 20:56So when Thompson's kind of running in, cutting in, it's not
- 21:00like Santinor just stands there. You know, Santinor then moves on
- 21:04to occupy new space, and then everything just kind of happens
- 21:07behind. And as a defense, you just it's
- 21:09like sort of standing in the middle of a carousel, you know,
- 21:12and like all the horses are just kind of like moving around.
- 21:14You're just like, where do I go? Like, where do you like have no
- 21:17idea what's going on? But like, that's the beauty of
- 21:20it is like, you know, and that that's kind of why I thought
- 21:22Biendolo and shout out to you because we we picked, we picked
- 21:25lineups. And then I went back and
- 21:26checked. You nailed 7 of the 11.
- 21:29I only had 6, but it came down to Claudia Dickey.
- 21:33So you're on point there. So you you've another another
- 21:36win for you in the Grant column, but.
- 21:39Another or the 1st. I don't know where we're at
- 21:42there. I mean, who's really keeping
- 21:44count? Maybe somebody at home is we'll,
- 21:46we'll, we'll check in. Check in with the YouTube
- 21:48comments on that. What are you going to be looking
- 21:51for in the rematch in a in a few days here?
- 21:54You know, Moultrie comes into the match and hits just a laser,
- 22:00a laser off the crossbar. That was just I couldn't believe
- 22:04the power. I mean, I can't believe the
- 22:06power she generated on it, but Jesus, like that was a lot of
- 22:09power that she got off on that shot.
- 22:12So, you know, I think she'll play more minutes.
- 22:16You know, I think Mickey Owen will play more minutes.
- 22:18Obviously. I mean, at this point you can't
- 22:20put it past you can't put it past Hayes to almost completely
- 22:26rotate this squad. So this was an interesting
- 22:28outcome. You got to see what what this
- 22:31group of players looks like. And then I think you're going to
- 22:34get a largely different mix of players and, and see what what
- 22:40they look like. And by the way, there's another
- 22:42another one of those quiet Germa matches.
- 22:45Granted, she didn't have to do a ton of work.
- 22:48So I don't know. I don't know if you maybe you
- 22:51play McGlynn in the next Ireland match and then you go back to
- 22:57Dickie against Canada to see if Dickie gets tested a little
- 23:00more. But I, I just think, I think
- 23:05we're going to get a largely rotated squad.
- 23:07I don't know if you play Germa 2, two of these matches in a
- 23:10row, if you just hand off the the captain's armband to to
- 23:14Sonnet, I wouldn't be surprised if you don't have Germa or
- 23:18Sonnet in there. I think it probably be coffee.
- 23:21Yeah, it's got to be right. Coffee or be a Dolo maybe?
- 23:25Sure I could. I could see Hayes playing a
- 23:27bellow and Sam's maybe giving Germa a break.
- 23:31I could see Moultrie starting, could see Yasmine starting, Ms.
- 23:35Sears probably then giving that whole attack a little bit of a
- 23:39refresh. I had a a funny, not a funny,
- 23:43but an interesting. How close do you think?
- 23:47Let's say Trinity Rodman comes back.
- 23:49We're seeing what Michelle Cooper is able to do.
- 23:52How do you see the battle at at right wing?
- 23:54I mean, obviously Trinity Rodman was one of the best players in
- 23:57the world, but Cooper's got a a very unique skill set and also
- 24:01fits in really, really well. You know, whether you're
- 24:04thinking about that right hand side with Patterson, Patterson
- 24:06to Cooper, devastating. Cooper plays a a really good,
- 24:11you know, opposite wing from Thompson.
- 24:13Like you could see they were hitting balls over the top to
- 24:15each other. They're just they they just make
- 24:18you defend that entire third of the field because they're so
- 24:23fast and they're so fluid in their movement.
- 24:26This is the one spot, Cooper and Rodman where I think we could be
- 24:30heading towards a spot where Emma has has some has some tough
- 24:34decisions to make, especially if Cooper continues to ascend.
- 24:36And I think we're we're still two years off from the World
- 24:38Cup. So there's a lot of time for
- 24:40some evolution here. But I'm starting to, you know,
- 24:43look at that right wing spot and be like getting interesting out
- 24:47there. I think I think Michelle Cooper
- 24:50will be one of the more devastating Subs in the world at
- 24:57that point. I just think I and you know, I
- 25:00mean we talk about Michelle Cooper a lot.
- 25:01I love her game. We talked about her last NWSL
- 25:04season where my note from the Seattle Rain FC Kansas City
- 25:09current match was Michelle Cooper will run your ass over.
- 25:12She, she won over my, my footballing heart in that match.
- 25:17You cannot in good conscience not play, not start Trinity
- 25:23Rodman. If she's healthy, then ready to
- 25:25play. And then by no means is that a
- 25:27slight to Michelle Cooper. It's just, it's just kind of bad
- 25:31luck in that case. And maybe you look for another
- 25:33spot to put Cooper, but you just, you can't.
- 25:37You can't not play Rodman when she's at her peak, man.
- 25:40She's too devastating of a player.
- 25:43Yeah. No, no, I I hear that it's we're
- 25:47just getting to that point now. You know, I think the, the early
- 25:50part of Emma Hayes's tenure was, hey, let's introduce some new
- 25:53players, let's get some new faces on here, especially coming
- 25:55off the the Black Code 23 World Cup.
- 25:57And now we're starting to see some of these players blooming.
- 26:01And now you're just like, oh man, I don't want to see a line
- 26:03up without Thompson in there, without Cooper in there, without
- 26:06Patterson or Hutton. I mean, these players are really
- 26:08starting to come into their own. I'll be interested.
- 26:13The Canada match I think is going to be a huge one from an
- 26:15evolution standpoint. I that's going to be a great
- 26:19benchmark type game. I think we can learn a good bit
- 26:21and I'm really interested to see does Emma Hayes put forth that
- 26:25like that, that first team out there versus Canada?
- 26:28That's going to be really interesting to see.
- 26:31Emma Hayes seems to have walked into this job, and I don't think
- 26:35anybody's really that surprised by it.
- 26:37But she seemed to walk into this job with an understanding of the
- 26:41gravity of it, of the history of it.
- 26:43And I mean, you know, we saw her work in the WSL.
- 26:48She seems to like to bash the skulls in of her rivals.
- 26:53And so I, I think you're probably on to something of, you
- 26:58know, this is the team geographically, you know,
- 27:01alongside Mexico that's closest to us.
- 27:03But obviously Canada's program probably has more investment.
- 27:07I don't want to paint with a with a super broad brush, but I,
- 27:10I believe it does. They're closer to the USA in in
- 27:13the FIFA world rankings for sure.
- 27:15And Mexico has a good squad. But I think Emma Hayes is going
- 27:19to is going to walk into this and say, here's our closest
- 27:22rival by proximity and by ranking.
- 27:25Let's go out there and show them we run this thing and.
- 27:28I'm glad you called out Emma Hayes specifically on that
- 27:30point, because, you know, sports fandom, there's a lot of
- 27:34impatience. You know, I think the first half
- 27:37a dozen Emma Hayes performances, you know, someone Nils in there
- 27:39and there's some like like some kind of underwhelming
- 27:42performances. You're just like, I don't know,
- 27:44I was hoping for more and you know, like logically,
- 27:48cognitively, you need to be a little bit more patient.
- 27:50It's going to take some time. This is the international team.
- 27:53You know, it's not like they're they're she's with these players
- 27:55weekend or day in, day out. You know, it's like a little
- 27:57window here, a little window there.
- 27:59But I mean, to her credit, every window there's been at least a
- 28:04step forward, a step and a half forward.
- 28:07New stuff, new players, new things are just like, oh, we're
- 28:11we're taking this into the next window.
- 28:12Like this player is good. These two players work really
- 28:15well together. We're keeping this.
- 28:17And I think every window there's just, you know, she's learning
- 28:21more, she's utilizing more. These players are growing.
- 28:25It's very, I don't want to get too, too hyped up, but I'm very
- 28:28encouraged, man. I think like if if this team
- 28:31comes out and Canada plays a real lineup and USA plays a real
- 28:36lineup and it's a big score line, like a three one and like,
- 28:39OK, this, this wasn't really a close a close matchup that
- 28:44that's going to stay quite a bit.
- 28:46It's a great call by you and I think if it is, then I think you
- 28:52eyes are already turning to the 2027 World Cup and now all the
- 28:56European teams. Obviously they have a massive
- 28:58tournament in the EUR, a ton of history, just like the the
- 29:02weight of that trophy. But and you know, a lot, a lot
- 29:06can change in two years. But I don't think so much could
- 29:09possibly change in two years to where if they go out there and
- 29:15smash Canada and you know, the rotation looks like it's getting
- 29:19more set. And you think about Sophie
- 29:22Wilson is coming back, Trinity Rodman is coming back.
- 29:24You don't know what's going to happen with Mel Swanson and you
- 29:27think about all these other great players who are developing
- 29:29that USA Spain match up that any USA England match up.
- 29:34You know, that's going to loom super large in in the 2027 World
- 29:39Cup. And I think it's it's exciting
- 29:40to even think about now. But Emma Hayes would probably
- 29:44look at us and say shut your pie holes one match at a time, 11
- 29:48window at a time. Let's we got to build this thing
- 29:51even before we start talking about that.
- 29:54Yeah, but not us though. We don't have to worry about
- 29:55that. We talk about it now.
- 29:57So we'll talk about 20-30 World World Cup.
- 29:59We don't care. She's not the boss of us.
- 30:04Episode calendar. So between now and 2031, let's
- 30:08see. We won't be back before for the
- 30:10next Ireland match up, but we will be back this weekend with
- 30:14our mega UEFA Women's EUR 2025 preview.
- 30:19We're going to basically go through each of the 16 teams
- 30:22vying for that big heavy trophy that my guy was talking about.
- 30:27So definitely stick around for that.
- 30:28Make sure you're subscribed. We also launched our USW and T
- 30:31collection alongside our NWSL collection.
- 30:34Those are all visible on our link tree.
- 30:35Go check those out if you're in the market for some awesome
- 30:38gear. All right, man, I think we did
- 30:41it and you just want to hip for get out of here.
- 30:43I think that's it for a for a four nil victory over the
- 30:46Republic of Ireland on a Thursday night in June.
- 30:50I think we covered pretty much everything.
- 30:52But whatever we missed, please let us know in the comments.
- 30:54We're always, you know, we're always willing to, to get that
- 30:57Emma Hayes halftime feedback. Love it man Learning podcast.
- 31:00Definitely keep keep letting us know.
- 31:03And with that said, there's been an episode of into the channel.
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- 31:22episode. And a big thank you to my coast
- 31:24as well, Mr. Granigo for being the Alyssa to my Giselle, the
- 31:30Trinity Rodman to my Michelle Cooper.
- 31:33Kind of go on and on but you already know what time it is.
- 31:34But the ultimate teammate. I appreciate you bro.
- 31:37Likewise, buddy, we appreciate everybody rocking with us.
- 31:41Super nice comments. You guys are the night, as I
- 31:43always say, the night. So we've somehow found the
- 31:45nicest corner of the Internet. We appreciate you hanging out
- 31:48with us. And yeah, we're looking forward
- 31:51to these EUR tap in. If you're, if you're strictly a
- 31:54USWNT fan, you know, think about the World Cup like we're saying,
- 31:58don't take, don't take it one match at a time.
- 32:00You want to see what the competition is going to look
- 32:02like. The EUR look like they're going
- 32:04to be an absolute banger. Please come kick it with us.
- 32:06We'd be happy to have you and we will see you all next time.