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Know the Enemy: Georgia Tech · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Come back to the boundary Corner podcast along with my partner.
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  So head on down to 301 South Main Meet in Blacksburg buddy.
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  You made it here under the wire sliding in Youth Baseball on a
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  Tuesday night 720. First pitch.
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  Who barely made it in. Barely made it in, but I'm here,
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  you see. I'm Adrian.
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  We're live. We only went, we only went about
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  15 minutes later than we were hoping for which considering the
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  late start and all that, not bad, not bad, not bad at all.
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  And you know we thought about maybe moving it to Wednesday,
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  but then that Give me three extra late nights and I was
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  like, nah, screw that. I'm let's get these days gonna
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  be late regardless. Let's just go, let's talk about
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  everything college football. Let's talk about Georgia Tech
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  this week. Let's talk about the cfp.
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  In a little while here. Let's talk about the new Big 12
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  deal, but Brian, let's let's kick it off and let's go back
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  more heartbreak for the Hokies. Let's recap NC State Hokies fall
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  2221 on Thursday night, and it's one of those.
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  Stories where it wasn't like Miami.
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  It wasn't us clawing our way back. 18-point lead in the
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  later, part of the third and we blow it man.
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  Just brutal. I went to bed at like one
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  because it took a while to come down.
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  Just oh yeah. Oh yeah.
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  I think it was, it was while they were reviewing.
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  The Grant Wells touchdown that gave us that lead.
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  I ran upstairs to get my wife, something I was like, I'm not
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  trying to jinx this shit but we're up 18.
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  I didn't think we'd be here. I don't know, it's essentially
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  from that for I was like I don't know what to do with my hands.
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  I'll do my hands. Yay and then, you know, I come
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  up later. You know, it's after midnight
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  she's like how he had to finish out his like it's after
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  midnight. What the fuck?
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  Do you think happened? What do you think happened?
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  It's midnight. Well, I had a few guys in the
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  neighborhood over and two of my neighbors.
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  Shout out been shout out mace Eysan their Tech alums and the
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  other two guys aren't and when we went up 18 one of the non
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  Hokies said y'all got this in the bag 18 and been looked at
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  him shadow. Look like you haven't watched us
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  play this year has first time huh?
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  And thus began the roll down and what and I just this year and I
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  mean we've seen this movie play out for a while for the Hokies
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  so mean as soon as as soon as that first touchdown, Afternoon
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  with the ease that it happened. I was like oh okay for a long
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  fourth quarter we are and we were win or lose is it's going
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  to be way more interesting than it.
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  Should be a lot more interesting.
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  And and let's let's talk about this, let's talk about the
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  defense because I want to give the defense I want to give them
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  their Kudos first Oh, coach Compton, coach Compton.
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  All right. Robbie.
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  So let's talk about the defense. So for the better part of three
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  quarters, they absolutely got the job done.
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  They held in Sea, State, 23, points aggressive, play called
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  and against NC State, they were attacking.
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  It seemed like all night. We didn't fewer missed tackles
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  in the first three quarters than we've seen.
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  Probably the last few weeks, at least.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  For the last few weeks definitely.
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  And it seems like they were It's loose.
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  Yeah, right playing lose. They weren't looking at the
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  scoreboard. They were just kind of attacking
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  and following the game plan and playing playing like they
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  belonged. Yeah I like it along and and we
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  know Devin O'Leary wasn't there, we know we know it was Chambers
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  in the first and then the Rook or Morris The Freshman who you
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  know, who was a four-star. It's not like he was the, you
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  know, the A two-star. He was a forced out of Georgia.
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  He wasn't just holding down that third spotty.
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  Yeah. Solid player that probably just
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  maybe wasn't ready for prime time yet but you know and they
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  pushed him showed up anyway, he did show up anyway in but again
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  the defense those first three quarters even with Mason in
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  their it they couldn't get anything established and it felt
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  good. But Brian you made that point as
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  it got to the end of the third and then the and then the Fourth
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  of July Fell off my teen roughly.
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  They had 19 points in eight minutes. 19 points in eight
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  minutes and I know you got to see some of the tape.
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  What do you felt like was the swing?
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  Why do we quit attacking? I feel like it's a combination
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  of things. You got to lead, you end up
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  being a little more conservative trying to conserve you know the
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  depth that we have because we have we still have debt problems
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  on defense and in this game we especially Adept problems at
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  corner. You know we only had really for
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  cornerbacks available that are on scholarship so that kind of
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  put us behind the eight ball. With how we were deploying our
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  cornerbacks and, as they started taking some more shots, you
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  know, that became problematic, it was like kind of your damned
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  if you do. Damned if you don't, if you if
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  you Blitz and you don't get there, you got tired,
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  cornerbacks on Islands. If you play more conservative
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  you, let them kind of take chunks down the field, a little
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  bit at a time and we kind of got in a situation where we the
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  snowball started and we couldn't stop it.
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  Yeah. And and It sort of stinks
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  because I think the reason probably went to Zone you
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  mentioned it. We heard coach promising.
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  And today in the pressure was the depth.
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  Imani Chapman and Masson, Delaney plate.
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  Every snap and we were over 76. Brian me.
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  Brian. Made the point Friday when we
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  were Chad and he's like, do you see the difference in the place?
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  I'm like, and I looked at the wrong stats.
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  I'm like, they're pretty close friend.
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  He's like look. Again look again.
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  They ran 76, we're in 54 and man.
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  In Maine, sort of Lane and Armani were out there every
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  snap. Which when you're, when you're
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  down to four, we saw DJ Harvey play.
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  A lot of nickel, we did not see much pre on Marie.
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  So really it was only three guys.
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  Getting the majority of those snaps you and him and cams out
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  cam cam Johnson of us, both of them were late scraps.
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  Also down strong was obviously already outfit.
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  So you had three three guys, that could have helped you a
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  little bit depth wise that weren't a bongo.
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  Going into that game, it was absolutely gone.
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  And then it was coach said it today.
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  In the pressure on anybody, listen about learning how to win
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  games and he says, it's something we have to do as a
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  team and you know what? Before this season started we
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  were roughly, I think it was one game under 500 with the class of
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  18. That's that's basically a coin.
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  Flip, whether you win or not and Brian.
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  How did you say it on Friday about that?
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  Big play down the field. I basically say this, like once
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  they got that one big play down the field and then they got In
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  The End Zone. It was like we remembered that
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  we weren't as good as we had been playing for three quarters
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  and that's that mentality that we keep hearing about learning
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  how to win, learning how to To finish.
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  Did you play collegiate ball? You play collegiate ball and
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  your teams were good. Your own teams that competed in
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  the O dat. You know trying to win that
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  conference. It is something.
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  Some people say it's fictitious. I don't believe that I believe
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  every single sport you ever play.
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  You have to learn how to win and we just that is something we
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  don't have right now and it showed, maybe maybe that maybe
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  the silver. In is.
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  The last three weeks, it showed a little bit more, and a little
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  bit more, that they were getting closer.
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  It went from losing them, by two scores at Pitt.
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  The one sport Miami to one-pointed NC State.
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  Yeah, and it's when you talk about winning, it's, it's the
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  little things. when you look at the plays that kind of build
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  towards your win their points in the game, Where you going to
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  point to and say? Okay, well you make you make a
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  little play here. You make a little play there.
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  It's a different outcome, but you see winning teams that they
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  play with the different type of confidence in a different type
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  of swagger than teams. Like the Hokies right now where
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  when one bad thing happens, you start to see that Snowball
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  Effect. You start to see doubt creeping
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  in, you start to press a little bit and make mistakes that you
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  wouldn't normally make and that's what we're seeing.
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  A lot from this. Team is that they kind of get a
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  little bit over their skis and all of a sudden snowball comes
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  another, yeah, it's a snowball of thing.
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  That's a thing. You talk about getting over
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  their skis, they lose the technique.
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  They start playing outside themselves not within
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  themselves, not within the scheme and that's learned and,
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  you know, we see mistakes and stuff this year, and I'm not
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  calling for anybody's job this year because I've seen enough
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  from each member of the coaching staff that And when they get the
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  right players, when that mentality, where we talked about
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  it last week, I talked about it with the more brothers who had
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  the least amount of time under the old coaching staff, and they
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  have looked like two of the best offensive linemen we have and
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  that takes time. And obviously probably, What
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  Hurts the Most is? We pumped with six minutes left
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  and we never get the ball back. Yeah.
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  Once I was that was the big thing with the defense.
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  We just need a one stop. We got him to third down twice,
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  couldn't get off the field. Couldn't finish couldn't finish
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  it. Now, let's talk about the
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  offense because Jesus Christ, let's talk jekyll-hyde with this
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  offense. That first half.
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  They knew everything we were doing, they took away the Run
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  game, they took away the short passes.
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  Yep. They dared us to beat them down
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  field and from what I can remember in what you think, we
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  really didn't try that in the first half.
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  We didn't we didn't try it enough or with with enough.
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  Variation. When we took the shots, it was
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  kind of a little bit more calculated.
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  We weren't doing it off of off of first down where maybe the
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  defense wasn't expecting and as much we were doing in very
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  telegraphed ways, you know, definitely third down.
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  You know, we were trying to take some shots here and there when
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  we had third down and long situations, but we weren't
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  trying to catch them off guard or get that first first down big
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  play that can kind of set your offense in.
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  Ocean drum. We were very predictable and it
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  showed the way they reacted. I mean, I know that's a good
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  defense but we should have the first half should not have been
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  as bad as it was if we could have done some things
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  differently that took them off edge a little bit.
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  Absolutely, it's the truth. And but but then Brian, you
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  know, we talked about that. And then we see in this is the
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  see, these little things. We see, we see an absolute
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  Salute 180 in the adjustment and when we come out in that third
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  quarter, we get the ball six plays 78 yards under two minutes
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  and scored touchdown. I mean it was like that's that
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  opening, third quarter Drive. I said it was the best opening
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  drive. We've had to the season.
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  It's probably the best offensive Drive.
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  We've had all year very terms of execution in terms of keeping
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  the defense off. Silence.
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  It was the best drive on offense.
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  We've had all year. Yeah and if you take a look at
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  it, it was Wells running the ball and then he hits Daquan and
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  then they Quan again, then Malachi with a good six yard
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  run. And then the next thing, you
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  know, it is, it's a penalty. We get down field and then we're
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  inside the goal line, Grant runs it in.
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  And it was like, it was nothing was huge.
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  It was what? 15, 15 78 penalty.
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  Get you 15 more and then you're in the it wasn't.
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  You know it wasn't like the next drive that we got I mean it's if
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  we got those, like intermediate chunk plays that we haven't been
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  consistent enough in this offense, we need a lot more of
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  those type of routes. Those type of schemes to in the
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  passing game. And we need that more
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  consistently because that seems to be our bread and butter.
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  Whether it's Daquan whether it's working, Caleb Smith in there as
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  well. We need more of that.
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  We've been relying too much on kind of the short game and
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  hoping that we can, you know, break a tackle or matriculate
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  the ball down the field, 68 yards at a time.
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  I mean, eventually we need to start getting those 15 to 20
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  yard chunk plays consistently. I'm not saying we got to do what
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  we did on the next drive, all the time, but let's start moving
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  the ball down. Feel a little bit with a little
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  bit more confidence in that intermediate game.
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  And then the next Drive, I mean, home run.
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  The those intermediate routes opened up, that safety didn't
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  Shada Caleb side, and it was a perfect.
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  I mean, that was a beautiful, beautiful deep pass because
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  brand dropped it in the bucket. Caleb didn't break stride.
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  80-yard touchdown. One play, One play, One, play 11
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  seconds. Yeah.
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  That's what he. And that's how you you take the
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  momentum from the other team right there.
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  I mean absolute, the one score, obviously, that changes the
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  game. You get that second one.
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  Now, you got to tell you on the, on their back of their heels, a
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  little bit and you get it in one play there.
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  So that really kind of was the first huge play that we've had
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  since really Boston College in terms.
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  Like really big chunk play going for a touchdown?
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  Yep. Absolutely.
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  And then now, the next travel is a punt by me.
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  And you talked about today, how it's okay to punch sometimes,
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  but how much positive yardage did you get what?
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  We got 23 positive yards. So you know, they had a punt to
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  us. We got the ball roughly at, let
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  me do the math here, roughly it like the 25-yard line.
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  We went 23. Words?
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  Right? At Midfield.
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  We punted they got the ball at their 20.
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  Did they had a punt back? And then it was that laughs
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  really. Again it was another solid
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  drive, five plays 65 yards again, Grant running.
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  Don't worry, we're going to talk about some of the bad stuff,
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  folks. It's we've got, we're gonna lay
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  into a stew, but it was like three minutes, Bam, Bam, Bam.
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  Grant Wells 20 yard. Run touchdown.
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  And it's and that's where you're pulling your hair out because in
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  less than eight minutes we score 21 points.
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  Yeah in eight minutes we scored 21 points.
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  That's of the game clock. Actual clock.
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  Like six minutes if Brian if we can score 6 21 points in six
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  minutes every game at least once.
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  Yep. What can I tell you?
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  One thing here though is, yeah that this this tells you the
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  importance of getting First, a first, down on your to start a
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  drive because we went Tempo on most of these drives in the
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  third quarter. And we really go Tempo because
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  we're able to get a first down pretty quickly in the drive-by
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  the second plate. Yeah the second plane those two
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  drives and get up on the ball and keep them on their heels.
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  It was less less. Check with me as we were.
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  Going through there. So they were running quickly.
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  They were sticking with the, with the original call and they
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  played with as much confidence. As I've seen them play all year
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  on offense. Yeah, and we saw some more
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  different things on, you know, Thursday night.
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  I mean I think one of the big one was just seeing Grant uses
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  athleticism. You know, he has some, he can
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  run the ball a little bit and there were a couple times where
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  he Handed off, if he had pulled, he would have had a lot of
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  daylight a lot of daylight because a couple times those
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  ends and those outside backers just crashed.
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  If he pulls it's a lane and there's no one on that side of
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  the field. So I think that's got to be
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  continued to put in. What else did you see?
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  For a little new wrinkles. Yeah.
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  I mean that more unbalanced lines.
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  We saw that that might be something that we could catch
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  them in when we were talking in the preview episode there, and
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  they went that way. So it's good to see that they,
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  you know, watch the Syracuse tape.
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  Like I did Grant was more involved in the running game.
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  So that was, that was good as well.
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  He's been more involved. Week-to-week lately, various
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  degrees of Effectiveness, obviously, when they've got the
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  loaded, Ox lot less room for him to operate.
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  We saw that kind in the first half but as we were more
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  effective with other aspects of the offense, some of those
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  rushing Lanes, opened up for him in the second half there and
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  obviously, we've already talked about it the second half shots,
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  downfield, we need more of that more consistently, you know,
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  Grant throws a good deep ball especially when he's got time.
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  He's connected on it on quite a few here.
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  He's, he sells a couple here there.
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  But when he's got time, when he's able to throw one on one,
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  it's easy throws a pretty good one.
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  So we need more of that. I mean, do you is that something
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  you want to see early though is that something that you feel if
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  we take a shot early and hit one?
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  The safeties won't creep up. Linebackers won't be sticking
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  their nose in the gaps. It's like we get burned deep a
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  couple times. You know, you've got to change
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  your philosophy up and it did kind of change their philosophy
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  up. But we couldn't get anything
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  done. The rest of the game we were we
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  were struggling because essentially we played our, we
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  played our hand, we played our trunk cards and they knew what
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  we were going to do so they were able to adjust.
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  So somebody could say, did you do it on?
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  Could you did you what did we do it too early?
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  I don't think that's, I don't think we did it too early.
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  I would say, we need to be able to be good on first and second
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  down, Even when we're not calling shots downfield.
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  Because our problem right now is been we're very ineffective
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  rushing on first down. So that puts us in a bad second
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  down call that doesn't always work.
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  And now we're in third and medium third and long situations
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  where you know we've struggled off and on and we struggled on
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  third down mightily in this game.
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  Oh my god. Did we not even joke?
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  How how bad 9% Yeah, we converted 9%.
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  We converted 1/3 down compared to them almost converting. 45%
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  that magic 40 number. Brian, like continues to float
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  it out there. If we keep them 40 or under,
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  we're going to win games, we're going to win games.
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  And if that's and that's a simple as getting off the field
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  one or two more times on third down, and we came close to or
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  three times in that game to get off the field but in and it
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  closed. Better clothes doesn't matter.
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  You got it, done. Close doesn't matter at all and,
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  you know, didn't rush the ball. Good again, you know, just one
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  point nine per carry, you know, after adjustments off, 26 rushes
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  and what a lot of blew up in the subsequent evening, we should
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  just say, late-night hours. And the next day was what's on
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  the coaches, what's on the players?
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  And, you know, Let's talk about some of that, we're going to
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  talk about first, the game Management on the coaches and
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  the first big one. And again, I'm going to shout
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  them out Mason, he sits over there on the two-point
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  conversion says, why the heck are we calling a timeout?
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  They're going to go for two here, to get it down to three
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  points. Why do we have a called a
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  timeout that? Obviously using that heard in
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  the six minute drill we had one time out to burn at that point
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  time if you have to maybe you do get stopped or maybe they didn't
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  feel the Rings and they Kick a field goal with a minute left,
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  and you still have time to operate now.
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  Pride did mention today that the had the wrong Personnel on the
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  field. And at that point in time, those
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  two points were two important at that point.
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  And I like he said, at that point in time because at that
• 23:08
  point in time, it was, if they don't get the two points like
• 23:12
  they didn't, it was still a two possession game or essentially
• 23:16
  it was they could not tell the vehicle, they had to score a
• 23:19
  touchdown. But on the other hand, this is
• 23:22
  something where it's like, that learning experience for the
• 23:24
  first time, head coach. Did you got your players out
• 23:27
  there? This is becoming a tight game.
• 23:29
  Timeouts are important, right? Yeah, yeah.
• 23:32
  And and that's after you probably you burned one that you
• 23:36
  needed to earlier. But then that meant that you
• 23:39
  couldn't afford to burn, another one ahead of the final drive is
• 23:43
  things. Got tighter timeouts, are at a
• 23:47
  premium, it's one of those things I know.
• 23:50
  Like, you know, hindsight's 20/20 is like, oh yeah, we
• 23:54
  should have conserved that one. Yeah and I think I think we
• 23:57
  should have Sometimes you I think that's where being a
• 24:05
  coordinator versus being a head coach.
• 24:08
  Kind of comes into play. I think that that's a timeout
• 24:10
  that a coordinator wanted to take that a head coach might
• 24:14
  kind of say now we're just going to let this one roll.
• 24:17
  We're going to we're still going to have the lead regardless what
• 24:22
  they do? Yeah we're going to have the
• 24:24
  lead if I have this in my back pocket.
• 24:29
  If we're driving the field and it is a one-point game and we
• 24:32
  need a field goal. We have two times or we can
• 24:35
  really attack the middle of the field and just burn the time out
• 24:39
  and get set up for the next play.
• 24:42
  And then I'll give you a chance to potentially get off the
• 24:44
  field, late in the game and have a chance to work in the field
• 24:46
  goal range. You know, whether the, you know,
• 24:49
  it's a You know one or two point game at that point, it doesn't
• 24:53
  really matter. Exactly now let me ask this and
• 24:57
  you said this was big on your game management pieces you said
• 25:01
  Brent Pride trusted his defense to win the battles when we had
• 25:05
  the lead instead of staying aggressive, is that going back
• 25:09
  to him being a coordinator again versus being a head coach?
• 25:13
  Where if he's the head coach and Chris Mars, the DC and Chris
• 25:17
  lays back that one play. He's taking his hat off and
• 25:19
  saying Jack. Attack.
• 25:21
  I don't care about this sitting attack.
• 25:23
  I don't care if you have to put gas who are in experiencing
• 25:25
  attack and we know at the end of the season, he will no longer be
• 25:31
  the defensive coordinator and calling the plays.
• 25:33
  But again, is that the coordinator hat finding its way.
• 25:36
  I think it's some of that I think it's you know we talked
• 25:39
  about it earlier with wanting to keep guys.
• 25:40
  Fresh. I think they he was attempting
• 25:43
  to kind of stem the the tide as it were with.
• 25:50
  We're probably are thinnest at the defensive wine and in the in
• 25:55
  the secondary especially at corner in this game and you know
• 25:59
  you take your foot off the gas a little bit.
• 26:01
  They're trying to kind of keep your guys fresh but now you've
• 26:04
  given them confidence and I think all they need it was like
• 26:06
  a little spark of confidence and and that kind of woke them up a
• 26:10
  little bit and it also reminded our guys.
• 26:13
  Hey you're the team rolling in here with losing record while we
• 26:18
  were still ranked in the top 25. And it kind of showed from there
• 26:22
  on out, even when Pride got more aggressive, as we kind of, went
• 26:26
  down the stretch there, I just think, you know, that little
• 26:31
  moment almost was like a switch for both teams anybody that says
• 26:35
  momentum is in the thing, doesn't watch college football,
• 26:40
  don't watch sports and watch what, what?
• 26:43
  Well, I don't have it on back here, but I just look, Houston
• 26:47
  had all the momentum after the weekend, right?
• 26:50
  That game got canceled. I sold last night because it
• 26:52
  rained in Philly, all night, Lily came out today and they're
• 26:56
  blowing the doors off of a 7, nothing so far, I wish I had it
• 26:59
  on back here so I could halfway watch the game in Philly.
• 27:01
  Lot was able to line up there. They're pitching, they got
• 27:04
  better long-term for the rest of the the series to momentum.
• 27:08
  All right, let's talk about quickly the offensive side of
• 27:11
  the ball. All right, how tough is it?
• 27:15
  You mentioned to me. It's like he was too late
• 27:17
  adjusting to the Box. How tough is it for?
• 27:19
  Obviously, this is the first time.
• 27:21
  Ordinator to make that adjustment in the Box down to
• 27:25
  the field. Is it too?
• 27:26
  Big of an adjustment? Or is it something where a more
• 27:29
  seasoned guy would just say, we've got to change it, I don't
• 27:31
  care. I would rather die by taking the
• 27:35
  risk. That I know if we make this
• 27:36
  change, we maybe can make a touchdown or we can move the
• 27:39
  ball. I still feel like we're not
• 27:46
  because we're not doing some of the the things that he wants us
• 27:50
  to do. Well we're not opening up the
• 27:52
  Playbook and for throwing in enough new elements to the
• 27:58
  offense week to week. And when you have a loaded box
• 28:05
  like that, and you're trying to your bread butter, trying to be
• 28:08
  all right, we're going to run it.
• 28:09
  We're going to have play action, and I know if you want to have
• 28:12
  play action, that, that you want that to be your bread and butter
• 28:14
  in the passing game. It's hard for that to actually
• 28:18
  have as much juice if you don't have some sort of semblance of a
• 28:21
  running game. But at some point you got to
• 28:24
  recognize what the strengths and weaknesses of the offense are
• 28:28
  and start playing towards those. And I think we're too late
• 28:31
  doing. At, in a lot of games.
• 28:35
  And that that's what we saw at this game and by the time, you
• 28:39
  know, we played our pivot card. They adjusted, they were able to
• 28:44
  fight their way back. Our defense of got gassed and
• 28:47
  they scraped one out there. And he never, he's never really
• 28:52
  gotten the offense settled after the Thomas injury in this game.
• 28:58
  Because if that felt like another switch the offense, we
• 29:01
  were kind of cooking a little bit.
• 29:04
  And then when Thomas went down and weekend, whatever we did,
• 29:09
  look like a different team out there.
• 29:10
  I know Thomas wasn't exactly tearing it up running the ball,
• 29:14
  but he had a, get a couple good grabs of the running game,
• 29:17
  especially that one down. The sideline were amazing.
• 29:19
  Grab them aside, Allison. Amazing catch.
• 29:22
  So he's, he gives the offense a little bit of a spark that,
• 29:27
  especially in this game. Didn't have Keshawn King and
• 29:30
  yeah, Holston coming on in the game after that, you could
• 29:33
  really see how that impact of the offense.
• 29:36
  It just looked like they kind of became a shell of what they
• 29:40
  showed in the third quarter. Well, it's that whole piece of
• 29:44
  We aren't as good as what we are.
• 29:46
  What we've been playing, we that that eight minutes and then
• 29:49
  Malachi gets hurt and it's the snap back to reality moment of
• 29:53
  we're not as good as what we just did.
• 29:54
  Those big plays those solid runs those try, Drives.
• 29:59
  We're not that into me. That to me that is somewhat on
• 30:02
  coaching. I know, it's some player
• 30:03
  mentality, but it's also coaches.
• 30:05
  Continue to chirp in your ear now.
• 30:09
  What's, but, it's Bowens responsibility to get some plays
• 30:12
  in there that. Keep your guys confident.
• 30:14
  That's true. That's on him now.
• 30:16
  Brian you got into a pretty much.
• 30:19
  Well, no Prime just made a defiant statement that now,
• 30:24
  false starts because there are some things that were on the
• 30:27
  players. Saturday or excuse me, Thursday
• 30:31
  twelve nine of ten false start penalties, 6 on the line to on
• 30:37
  skill positions, to on special teams Brian.
• 30:41
  Someone came out and said this is all bad coaching.
• 30:45
  And Brian, Sigler went, you went Lee Corso.
• 30:50
  Not so fast. So I'll preface about this.
• 30:56
  There are things that can be done.
• 30:59
  That will encourage an offensive line to try to be more cognizant
• 31:03
  about false starts. But a offensive lineman is not
• 31:08
  jumping off sides because of something.
• 31:10
  A coach does or does not do Point Blank, I played the
• 31:17
  position, I know this and the reason is and so the things that
• 31:23
  the things that thing that you can do as a coach is that
• 31:25
  obviously one of the things they are doing which is extra
• 31:30
  conditioning punishment. Things like that as a response
• 31:35
  to the offsides that occur in a game.
• 31:39
  Wait a second, another offensive.
• 31:40
  Lineman speaks up. So, so the thing, the things you
• 31:46
  can do is, you know, obviously what one of the things they are
• 31:49
  doing which is extra conditioning for 4 yards that
• 31:53
  you commit in penalties in a game.
• 31:55
  The other thing that you can do is you can lose your spot.
• 31:58
  The problem with losing your spot is that we don't have the
• 32:02
  depth to loot to have someone lose their spot.
• 32:04
  Right. Now, now, we're not when you
• 32:08
  when someone loses their spot on this offensive line and even in
• 32:11
  other positions in this offense, Talking about replacing them
• 32:15
  with a true freshman which could result in a burnt red shirt or a
• 32:19
  walk-on. I mean, you can now, you can all
• 32:23
  sorts of good stuff. We had T right here, one from
• 32:25
  Robbie one from the white again, Robbie, basically, priest not
• 32:30
  penalties. Oh probably every third Alan up
• 32:32
  there. Every hokey fans knows that
• 32:34
  tissue and it's not all coaching Robbie.
• 32:36
  Obviously, as a coach, there are other one about a white up.
• 32:43
  And we've heard this since day, one about the depth.
• 32:46
  We've heard it since day one and I guess I get what they're
• 32:49
  saying, if we had a team like you would want to have and a guy
• 32:53
  jumps off sides, twice in a game yank him at least for into the
• 32:59
  quarter and put in the other guy and see what you got.
• 33:02
  And if that guy's rolling, you keep him in maybe for the rest
• 33:05
  of the game and that and that shows that you're serious.
• 33:09
  But we don't have the luxury of that type of response from a
• 33:12
  coaching staff, Right now. So these Lyman need to take
• 33:17
  accountability for jumping off sides and I'll say this it
• 33:20
  wasn't just the Lyman Daquan jumped off.
• 33:23
  We had a wide receiver jump all of y'all.
• 33:25
  Yeah Caleb jumped off. We had three three or four that
• 33:29
  weren't on the offensive line so this is not just an offensive
• 33:31
  line problem. This, this is a concentration
• 33:34
  problem. This is thinking too much
• 33:36
  problem, this is worrying about beating your guy, instead of
• 33:39
  focusing on what's Happening the game problem.
• 33:43
  Very, very true. It's also funny put Robbie's
• 33:45
  quote up here again because you you said this and it's really
• 33:49
  funny because proc continue to say, all sides with false start
• 33:53
  sounds like is he talking that backwards?
• 33:55
  But I think that's just something common, but you
• 33:58
  mentioned doing when we were talking Friday.
• 34:01
  I put it in the I put it in the Tweet to.
• 34:03
  Yes you did. A lot of times, why would I get
• 34:06
  false starts? Because the freaking dtac on the
• 34:08
  front of me was feed, my ads, had my ass kicked and I'm trying
• 34:12
  to get a Bone, his ass display. Whether it's I'm trying to kick
• 34:17
  back early or whether I'm trying to get a Zone step or reach step
• 34:22
  or I'm trying to down block him at the right.
• 34:24
  I'm trying to step on my man because he's handling handed me
• 34:27
  my ass right now. Yep.
• 34:30
  All right. Couple other things.
• 34:31
  Brian we let's mention about on the players chance, black
• 34:35
  muffin, those kickoffs holy shit.
• 34:38
  First of all, any time a kickoff is muff, any kind of kick as
• 34:42
  Mufti? It's just like as a fan it's
• 34:45
  like, oh shit, not good, not good.
• 34:49
  If it's bad because it automatically takes away some of
• 34:53
  the potential that the plays in your playbook that you want to
• 34:57
  call as an offensive coordinator.
• 35:00
  Because now you're starting inside the 10.
• 35:03
  Those play calls are going to be a lot more conservative most
• 35:05
  time, especially for a team like this.
• 35:07
  That hasn't had a ton of success, which is lining up and
• 35:12
  doing, what they You to a defense regardless of what kind
• 35:15
  of looks they're getting we don't we don't have that kind of
• 35:17
  offense right now so now you either take the risk of taking
• 35:21
  shots from inside the 10 and if you don't hit it now you're
• 35:25
  putting to them you know in that 40 to 50 yard range or you're
• 35:29
  risking a safety in a tight game and things like that or you get
• 35:33
  more conservative till you get that first first first down or
• 35:36
  two and we just we never got that.
• 35:39
  Now we got handed a gift that we ended up giving back on the A
• 35:42
  couple plays on that penalty, true.
• 35:46
  When the late hit on Wells out of bounds, when a late hit
• 35:50
  necessarily but the unnecessary roughness before throwing him
• 35:53
  around. After, after he got it rode him
• 35:55
  out of bounds, Peyton Wilson had it, if he just lets him go on
• 35:58
  rides, it's nothing. But when he jerked, they weren't
• 36:01
  gonna get. He didn't initiate that action
• 36:04
  before he went out of bounds. So it was the steps where out
• 36:07
  and I think the last thing Ryan coach you prize said it.
• 36:11
  You said it, it's all the I think, and it's depressing is
• 36:14
  when you don't be, when you start pressing the techniques
• 36:17
  gone, you don't play Within the structure and bad things happen.
• 36:21
  And again, I go back to what I think about this class being
• 36:27
  under 500 going into this year. I don't think a lot of these
• 36:31
  guys who have been playing here for the last four years, guys,
• 36:35
  you know, you come to love. You love to see them play, you
• 36:38
  want to see them do well. I think that is what it is and I
• 36:42
  think it's literally going to take a lot of new blood to flush
• 36:46
  that out of the system. Well, shit, I've said it a lot
• 36:51
  and I know, I'm kind of reiterating some of the, a
• 36:53
  matter of our take it elsewhere. But, you know, we got a lot of
• 36:57
  veterans that have played that have been role players on this
• 37:01
  team that we are asking them this year because of our depth
• 37:04
  concerns to be the man at certain positions. and some of
• 37:10
  that may be beyond their skill set, And we're talking about
• 37:15
  spread that I'm not just at one position.
• 37:17
  I just said two positions but probably over about five or six
• 37:20
  positions. We were asking guys that are
• 37:22
  more veteran role players to be veteran leaders and Veteran
• 37:28
  standout players on this team and that works for a quarter or
• 37:31
  two. But we're seeing it doesn't
• 37:33
  always work for four quarters and two.
• 37:37
  That's it. And that's what we're seeing a
• 37:38
  lot of. So we when you see these young
• 37:41
  guys going out there and competing, that's a good sign
• 37:43
  because it shows that You know, we could have that potential
• 37:46
  down the road but we've got to we've got a lot of backfilling
• 37:49
  to do we did and it's going to take you know you here.
• 37:52
  Leslie is going to take the portal and cycler and the Cycles
• 37:56
  to backfill kind of the situation that we kind of been
• 37:59
  dealt with with the last you know two to three years of
• 38:01
  recruiting and we have roster has been managing those periods
• 38:04
  which was not good but you kind of started it right there but I
• 38:07
  think we as fans you know, everybody's pissed for two and
• 38:11
  six. We're I think because we're a
• 38:14
  little Beyond this or two in 66. I think that's being a little
• 38:18
  older. We start reading between the
• 38:20
  lines, because the record is what it is.
• 38:22
  We're 216, that's who we are, but if you start looking at this
• 38:26
  team, in the record, we have only been truly drilled once and
• 38:30
  that was Carolina. They were twenty-four ten and
• 38:33
  half. They 140. 110, we were that we
• 38:35
  were drilled. The game was over early, third
• 38:38
  quarter. It wasn't, it wasn't closed for
• 38:40
  a long time. Yeah, it wasn't.
• 38:42
  For a long time but you kind of sit back and say, Brian, you
• 38:47
  know, a lot of these other games, it's right there.
• 38:51
  And at the end, it falls apart. And in their quarters where me
• 38:57
  and you both say? If that team right there, third
• 39:02
  quarter this week, if that team right there, showed up 75% of
• 39:08
  the time. We would be one in 75 or 80% of
• 39:12
  our games like those quarter stretches.
• 39:15
  Now, the defense we've seen it multiple cores.
• 39:18
  We saw it against Miami. We saw it against State.
• 39:21
  We saw at the first three quarters against West Virginia.
• 39:24
  The defense is consistently, put two and three quarters together
• 39:27
  in a game. Not have necessarily played for
• 39:29
  yet BC for three quarters. Yeah I'll give them be safe.
• 39:33
  I'll give him BC. We know how bad BC is.
• 39:35
  So yeah but with the offense it's like one off cost.
• 39:40
  Hours, and when I say one-off quarters, I mean this week that
• 39:43
  third quarter, eight minutes, 21 points.
• 39:46
  Yeah, eight minutes of the game, six minutes after the session 21
• 39:49
  points. I ain't trying to say where I
• 39:52
  live but that's Alabama, shit that's Tennessee shit, that's
• 39:54
  Ohio, State shit, where it's like, Bam, Bam, Bam 21 points.
• 39:57
  Six minutes And that's how they bury it but you look at that
• 40:01
  game. The Miami fourth quarter feet
• 40:04
  early, first quarter into the second and pit where it's just
• 40:06
  like 14-point 17 points in, in short stretches.
• 40:11
  So I said here and it's like a silver lining and I say people
• 40:17
  are already saying Powerball and should be fired.
• 40:19
  No. First of all, I don't think
• 40:21
  anybody's getting fired. You're wondering if that's your
• 40:24
  go-to like who we should fire people.
• 40:28
  Go look at Tennessee, go look at a lot of these programs.
• 40:31
  It took years to cook 15 years to rebuild, where they are.
• 40:35
  They kept firing people over and over.
• 40:38
  But I look at it. You see those Silver?
• 40:39
  Linings And it's consistency, right?
• 40:43
  Brian, like, yeah. We seen flashes and it's like
• 40:46
  shit. And I think that goes back to
• 40:50
  what I was just saying earlier, is, like, you know, we're seeing
• 40:53
  these flashes and we're hoping that we can put some of that
• 40:56
  more together. When we say we're not seeing
• 41:00
  progress, I think we're not seeing progress because we're
• 41:01
  still losing losing games, but there are things here there that
• 41:07
  give you, you know, a little hope of what's to come.
• 41:11
  Now, what I want to see a lot more of is, you know, when we
• 41:14
  talked Back in March early, March we did the the preview the
• 41:21
  preview episode with Robbie, Robbie came on, he broke down,
• 41:24
  what we can expect, from prion, the defense, I looked at the
• 41:26
  offense, I looked at a lot for them tape.
• 41:29
  Looked at some of the Penn State stuff, things like that.
• 41:33
  And looking at looking at Fordham, you know, we saw some
• 41:38
  different things from that offense that we haven't seen yet
• 41:41
  in this. And I don't know if that is
• 41:46
  weird. Doing this.
• 41:46
  Well, so we haven't kind of taken the next step and put this
• 41:49
  part of the offense in there yet.
• 41:51
  I don't know whether it's that some of the, the team isn't
• 41:55
  comfortable with running those plays yet, hasn't shown it.
• 41:58
  Well enough in practice, where they're comfortable with the
• 42:01
  calls in the game. Whatever the reason is, I want
• 42:04
  to see a little bit more from this offense in terms of when
• 42:11
  that bread and butter isn't working early, having something
• 42:13
  to Pivot to having having some things that give the defense
• 42:17
  fits that aren't just. We're going to do we do and beat
• 42:22
  you that way because one of my complaints against corn corn
• 42:29
  corn had a bad system and was also a bad play caller.
• 42:33
  I still think the system was decent.
• 42:35
  I think he was just system is, but I'm saying in terms of how
• 42:38
  he operated the system with. If it's a pass play, you got to
• 42:41
  throw it here or then you gotta run it or eat it?
• 42:45
  Yeah, I don't, I don't I don't like that shit.
• 42:48
  So that's still on him. And that's not just a calling
• 42:51
  the game thing. That's a, this is how I want to
• 42:53
  run my scheme thing. Yeah, I got the steam itself.
• 42:58
  In terms of the plays were not bad, it was how he wanted the
• 43:01
  quarterback. Execute said, calls that was
• 43:05
  awful, combine that with having zero, zero flow in the game.
• 43:10
  And that's something I think we, we don't see from Tyler bone, he
• 43:13
  lets Royals operate because, as well as Operate.
• 43:16
  Now, the problem is that we haven't gotten deep enough into
• 43:20
  the Playbook where, you know, what we've what we've shown on
• 43:24
  film is almost kind of what we see every game, the game.
• 43:28
  And I need to see more variety and, and some more wrinkles from
• 43:33
  the solvents. And we're seeing them here or
• 43:35
  there, but I don't think we're seeing enough where it's giving
• 43:40
  us an advantage against the defense we have.
• 43:43
  And, and I'm going to be just very honest with you on that.
• 43:47
  You go for games, you're two and six, nothing can get worse.
• 43:50
  If you're trying to figure out how it if Wells is going to be
• 43:54
  your primary starter. Next year, he's going to battle
• 43:56
  for a job. It's almost Like rip the
• 43:59
  Band-Aid off, and just give them everything and see how the
• 44:02
  offense works because by all means, if you lose 40, you lose
• 44:06
  four in a row, you're two. And six to me, there is nothing
• 44:09
  to lose. And at least with this, you get
• 44:12
  a full scope, a full scope of Grant Wells, operating
• 44:18
  everything in the Playbook not just inside the Box.
• 44:23
  Yeah. All right let's flip it over.
• 44:26
  Brian other college football notes.
• 44:28
  Obviously tonight I had to have you texted I had a couple
• 44:31
  buddies Malik Mike text me like we all think of the playoff I'm
• 44:34
  like, haven't seen it yet. This is literally the first time
• 44:37
  seeing it right now. And I'm actually proud of the
• 44:40
  committee putting Tennessee at one, Ohio State at to Georgia
• 44:45
  three Clemson forward Michigan five Tennessee.
• 44:50
  Has beat multiple multiple ranked football teams.
• 44:55
  Yep. Multiple and Ohio State has beat
• 45:00
  multiple ranked Notre Dame, doesn't look as good.
• 45:03
  But the Penn State Victory last week, obviously really good.
• 45:07
  I think they got it, right? I really do.
• 45:12
  And obviously, if you take a look at that, we've got to play
• 45:15
  in games on the way in the next month, ones this week.
• 45:19
  Came. We're going to talk about that
• 45:20
  one later, trust us. What about you?
• 45:23
  Did you do you think it's right? Do you like Clemson being it
• 45:26
  for? Or would you have put Michigan
• 45:28
  there? Ought to put Michigan there.
• 45:31
  I thought that she was going to be for, I like it.
• 45:35
  Otherwise, I mean, I can make an argument for Georgia over Ohio
• 45:38
  State, but they're very neck-and-neck.
• 45:41
  In my opinion, Tennessee has the best resume.
• 45:44
  I don't know if they're the best team, but they certainly have
• 45:46
  the best resume, which is why they are number one in That,
• 45:49
  that's a fair number one for them.
• 45:53
  Like I said, I could argue Georgia to, or Ohio State it to,
• 45:57
  I think Clemson is probably the only one that got wrong at this
• 46:00
  point. I would definitely put them kind
• 46:02
  of just outside looking in in the initial pole.
• 46:06
  I think, Michigan's kind of done more so far.
• 46:10
  Okay. And you know, I think I'd put
• 46:12
  them behind Michigan and obviously Alabama's number 6
• 46:16
  here. So I put them just ahead of
• 46:18
  Alabama. Oh, Are they an unblemished
• 46:20
  record? Are they now?
• 46:21
  Placing so an undefeated team is below a loss, Alabama?
• 46:27
  Yeah, Theses below Alabama, yeah, that's always irritating
• 46:30
  to me. So TCU, has not been proven.
• 46:33
  They can be beaten correct. Alabama has Alabama, has shown,
• 46:39
  they can lose a game tcu's, not if you flip flop them.
• 46:42
  I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that.
• 46:44
  I think organs too high. Don't think you get the doors
• 46:46
  going off of you. Even if it's early in the
• 46:49
  season, I don't think they should be that high.
• 46:50
  I think, at least USC Ole, Miss should be above them, probably
• 46:58
  no one else. I'm not, I don't know how, a to
• 47:00
  Los LSU team because LSU as still not impressed.
• 47:04
  They lost to a mediocre. Florida State team at home,
• 47:09
  pretty much sand, but we'll discuss that more as we get down
• 47:14
  to it. There's definitely some SEC
• 47:16
  biases always in there. But you know It is what it is.
• 47:21
  I mean, you look at that Florida State team.
• 47:23
  I mean, it's a, it's a better than we expected, Florida State
• 47:26
  team, but still nothing to write home about Florida, State team.
• 47:30
  Yeah. Now, if this was the 12 team
• 47:32
  that would be games in Ann, Arbor Tuscaloosa Fort Worth in
• 47:37
  at the Autzen Zoo decision. And I don't worry.
• 47:50
  Zero degrees on the East Coast having to go to the zoo.
• 48:01
  Well, that would be actually. That would be USC.
• 48:06
  Have it that way? They probably flip it put, like,
• 48:07
  LSU there to go up to the zoo. That'd be nice and yeah, so it's
• 48:12
  interesting. All right, other big news this
• 48:14
  week, the Big 12, new TV deal, the dominoes are slowly falling
• 48:19
  2.28, Million over six years between Fox and ESPN.
• 48:24
  I'd love to see the numbers from each because obviously obviously
• 48:31
  the math is roughly 30 million a year.
• 48:33
  I think Big 12 st. Closer to 50 with all the other
• 48:38
  payouts. Well we're looking strictly at
• 48:39
  the TV money because the other payouts are variable.
• 48:42
  Yep. You may get some of it.
• 48:43
  You may not get some of it so keep that off the table.
• 48:46
  But let's say split right down there.
• 48:48
  So some of it, some of its a straight shares.
• 48:50
  Some of it depends on where you land.
• 48:53
  Exactly. But if you if we just say, it's
• 48:55
  a straight middle and it's 1.14 billion.
• 49:01
  We know that 1 Point 1 4 billion for ESP and I'm focused more on
• 49:05
  ESPN than Fox because fox has the Big Ten.
• 49:12
  They have the big 12, the Pac-12 deal still not done yet which is
• 49:17
  really in. This is a good-sized deal but
• 49:20
  now you know 1.14 is roughly how much a year God I hate doing
• 49:28
  math, this late. If I had a chance to do this
• 49:31
  earlier, we're doing split straight, split wouldn't be 15.
• 49:37
  What 15 or know what I'm saying is, how much money each year?
• 49:41
  ESPN is going into it. I got would be suited, be
• 49:44
  something like 200, probably right under 200 million a year.
• 49:50
  So close to 15 a year per payout.
• 49:53
  But what, that tells you right there though, is they still got
• 49:56
  money left. Now I think they're going to
• 49:59
  bump the SEC up but I think the AC even though they're locked
• 50:02
  into the 15-year deal. ESPN is going to probably pay a
• 50:08
  little bit more. I think the acc's with with the
• 50:12
  ACC Network going full live is close to 30 million.
• 50:16
  Now, think it's what it is, like twenty seven and a half.
• 50:19
  I think the ACC will get a little bit more to product to
• 50:22
  me. I think the ACC is going to be
• 50:23
  probably closer to thirty seven straight TV deal.
• 50:27
  And but this is what we talked about because the big Tim's gone
• 50:31
  ESPN does not have the Big Ten in a few years and it was all
• 50:34
  that money. Then you know, they bid up to a
• 50:36
  point probably somewhere in the neighborhood of about 70 million
• 50:40
  and team. And now that money is coming
• 50:43
  back so it's going to be interested to see how that plays
• 50:46
  out. Yeah.
• 50:47
  Yeah. What do they do with an extra
• 50:49
  money? Does does a cut of that?
• 50:50
  Go to the ACC in a renegotiated deal?
• 50:55
  Does all of that go to the SEC? I don't think it all can go to
• 50:58
  the SEC. I don't think it does either.
• 51:01
  Don't think it does either. I think they get a good shot
• 51:03
  well, because of where their contract is now.
• 51:05
  They run. Roughly only need about.
• 51:09
  I feel like they only need maybe do the math here, maybe like 250
• 51:16
  million a year to be above the Big Ten.
• 51:19
  Okay. And so obviously we don't have
• 51:20
  big, The Big Ten steel is, we know you.
• 51:23
  Look at this, it's probably another 200 million out there.
• 51:26
  How much goes back to the ACC, Do they negotiate?
• 51:31
  Anything with the Pac-12? Now that you're down to 10 teams
• 51:34
  will be interesting. All right.
• 51:36
  Last piece before we head to break here, Brian Harrison for
• 51:39
  real got fired today, not a catfish, not a catfish, not me,
• 51:45
  Barrett Sally, confirmed it and I'm going to be honest.
• 51:49
  They haven't heard the ad, they look like doing the Mississippi
• 51:52
  State ad, which God bless that guy because to take it with
• 51:56
  those freaking lunatic snout on the plains.
• 52:00
  Who wants to coach their like seriously like who would who in
• 52:05
  their right mind would actually want to try to coach their?
• 52:08
  Yeah, I mean you know Brian Harrison is done himself zero
• 52:14
  favors in this all. Yes, and let's go ahead and put
• 52:16
  that out there. 00 favors at the same time.
• 52:23
  With those with those donors out there, it's a clown show, man.
• 52:27
  They, they run everything. The thing is, it's constantly,
• 52:33
  we got to get rid of people, we need to do something different,
• 52:35
  and it's just like, they had Gus for, you know, close to 78 years
• 52:40
  and God took him to a national championship.
• 52:42
  Gus had them in the running, godspeed, Alabama, a few times.
• 52:46
  They're one of those programs to me that they get a little
• 52:51
  winning in them. They come Lately, forget who
• 52:55
  they are. And then when they have a couple
• 52:58
  mediocre season, everybody wants to burn plates down because oh,
• 53:01
  it's all screwed up. You are who you are.
• 53:04
  And that's where the Mississippi State guy.
• 53:05
  Got bless his soul. Yeah, I mean, I think they want
• 53:09
  so bad to be like Tier 1 all the time, like some of the some of
• 53:15
  their other in-state Rivals. And some of the other teams in
• 53:20
  their conference, and they need to recognize that.
• 53:23
  That they're, they're a team that because of the money that
• 53:26
  they have, they can punch up but they're still going to be more
• 53:30
  or less, a tear to type program consistently.
• 53:33
  Yeah, we lack the ability to punch up.
• 53:38
  What they've done the last 11 years, though, I would take it
• 53:41
  to. Oh, yeah, and be saved game of
• 53:43
  appearances. Only really, really only two Bad
• 53:46
  seasons and then the rest can really take it even further back
• 53:50
  than that. I mean, if you go back last 20
• 53:52
  years, I don't for I mean they said really good teams, really
• 53:59
  good team. I definitely take it heartbeats
• 54:02
  because just because you're not that Elite of elite every year.
• 54:05
  I mean again you punched up a few times you've you know,
• 54:11
  you've you've won the big ones that you've had to win to put
• 54:15
  yourself in a position to play in some big games.
• 54:18
  Yeah, absolutely. All right.
• 54:20
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• 54:51
  All right Brian, let's start with Georgia Tech Know, The
• 54:55
  Enemy offensive side of the ball and let's start at the
• 54:58
  quarterback. The quarterback which one?
• 55:01
  Well they all right, here we go. Who had not really showed much
• 55:06
  of the Freshman Georgia Tech shown everybody since Jeff
• 55:10
  Simmons got banged, you got Sims.
• 55:12
  You got Zach, Gibson, and Zach power.
• 55:15
  Let's go. This order give me.
• 55:19
  Obviously Sims has one. So we'll talk about him last.
• 55:23
  Who's the least likely guy? We're going to see this week and
• 55:26
  if he does have to play, give me a quick.
• 55:29
  What we're gonna see in his offense, more than likely, the
• 55:32
  least likely is going to be Zach Gibson.
• 55:35
  He started the last game they played against FS, you didn't
• 55:41
  make it very far into that game. Really more of a, more of an
• 55:47
  athlete decent short game accuracy, with his arm effective
• 55:51
  in the running game. Only average arm strength,
• 55:56
  average accuracy, not really effective in the pocket will
• 55:59
  panic when he's pressured consistently.
• 56:01
  So not not exactly. The guy you want to pull the
• 56:04
  trigger there in a game especially against a team like
• 56:08
  the Hokies that we know we do have a pretty effective defense
• 56:10
  at least for 3/4. So so so for if it's Zack
• 56:14
  Gibson. We're going to see the smallest
• 56:15
  playbook in the actual potentially smallest person able
• 56:20
  to run their offense. Yes, smallest Playbook just
• 56:24
  because he doesn't have the arm to drive the ball down the
• 56:27
  field. Okay?
• 56:28
  Okay. All right.
• 56:30
  Well, what about pyram? What about pot?
• 56:32
  Because Jeff seems obviously if he's healthy Sims is going to
• 56:35
  plane. He's the best quarterback.
• 56:36
  They have. But what do we see in from
• 56:37
  piron? Pyron is a step up and
• 56:40
  athleticism, he's a more powerful Runner.
• 56:42
  He's got a more effective. More effective arm strength,
• 56:48
  does a better job of intermediate passing game than
• 56:53
  Gibson. He does still like the arm
• 56:55
  strength to take some deep shots consistently, but he will make
• 56:59
  some effective throws in the intermediate passing game.
• 57:01
  So it does stretch the field a little bit there for them, but
• 57:05
  he is effective in it three, step drill and he will scramble.
• 57:09
  Well, keep his eyes down field for check downs and things like
• 57:12
  that. So more.
• 57:14
  Of em. And again, probably a more
• 57:15
  effective runner in the zone read because of his size and
• 57:19
  power, all right? And then last clearly if he's
• 57:23
  healthy Jeff Sims, the 63 205 pound quarterback out of Duval.
• 57:31
  Florida composite four-star was a top 24/7, player top 10
• 57:36
  quarterback. So far this season.
• 57:38
  He's throwing nine. Excuse me, he's thrown five
• 57:40
  touchdowns only rush for one. You know over 300 yards there
• 57:47
  and we we all if you've been following Hoagie football for
• 57:51
  the last five years you know who Jeff Simmons is.
• 57:53
  At one point, he was right there with us and then he decided to
• 57:57
  go to Georgia Tech. What do we see from him?
• 58:00
  That makes him obviously, if they want him to start.
• 58:04
  Yeah, I mean the big thing is confidence.
• 58:06
  He's a quick decision, maker delivers, a good accurate ball
• 58:09
  that allows receiver to kind of turn up field.
• 58:11
  Get some yards after the catch. Great ass.
• 58:14
  You expect extends plays with his legs.
• 58:16
  Looks to make the play down the field as he's kind of escaping
• 58:20
  the pocket and getting to the perimeter, he is a type of
• 58:24
  quarterback, you know, that we I've been talking about that can
• 58:26
  Elevate the play of those around him.
• 58:28
  He's that type of player but he will take risks with the
• 58:31
  football in the passing game. So, there is some opportunities
• 58:33
  for some, you know, potential fumbles or turnovers there.
• 58:37
  But I mean, he's definitely the one of the better quarterbacks
• 58:42
  we've seen this year in terms of his Skill set and definitely the
• 58:46
  best quarterback on that roster. Yeah, I mean he obviously is the
• 58:51
  best. If he's If he if you see him
• 58:53
  playing you're going to get their best game offensive ly,
• 58:56
  which isn't the greatest, which we'll talk about later.
• 58:58
  But let's just be very honest with this team.
• 59:00
  This team is a run first team. They, you know, they've ran the
• 59:04
  ball 30 more times than they passed it.
• 59:07
  Because a, they've given a 30 sacks or they're giving up a
• 59:10
  sack about one. Every eight drop backs, but they
• 59:13
  have actually a couple Two really good running backs in the
• 59:15
  first. Let's talk about here is on,
• 59:17
  let's talk about. Hassan Hall, a transfer from
• 59:21
  Louisville class of 2018 was a mid three-star there from the
• 59:27
  state of Georgia at Maynard Jackson in Atlanta, and, you
• 59:31
  know, so far this season brown with a sign.
• 59:34
  He's averaging, you know, just over five yards, a carry 315
• 59:39
  total yards. Interesting piece here is no
• 59:43
  touchdown. So that's something to keep an
• 59:47
  eye on in. You know what are you seeing
• 59:52
  from him on the tape? Yeah, he's pretty effective.
• 59:57
  Catching the ball out of the backfield solid vision and he's
• 1:00:01
  an angry Runner finishes, his runs well good at identifying
• 1:00:05
  cut back Lanes, that's where you kind of gets a lot of his extra
• 1:00:09
  yardage there but he's not really a home run threat in the
• 1:00:12
  offense. He's not heavily Used around the
• 1:00:14
  goal line. They usually focus more on some
• 1:00:19
  other guys, whether it's whether it be Sims or one of the other
• 1:00:25
  quarterback quarterbacks trying to get when they get around the
• 1:00:28
  goal line there. But he's he's one of those guys
• 1:00:33
  that gets you a lot of yardage kind of between the 20s.
• 1:00:38
  Alrighty. So now they have a second
• 1:00:40
  running back as well. Let's talk about him Nationals.
• 1:00:42
  Talk about Dante Smith Smith so far this year.
• 1:00:47
  Again also averaging five your over five yards, a carry at five
• 1:00:51
  point, one three touchdowns, 258 total yards, little bit of
• 1:00:57
  receiving eight receptions in eight games and you know, came
• 1:01:04
  was a myth 3 star coming out of Spring Hill.
• 1:01:07
  Columbia Tennessee. All-purpose back.
• 1:01:11
  Not a lot of D1 offers but, you know, a little bit of speed
• 1:01:16
  there. What makes him a little bit
• 1:01:18
  different than Hall? Yeah, he's moreover the
• 1:01:21
  perimeter threat than Hall, especially running the ball,
• 1:01:25
  he's primarily uses kind of their third down or change of
• 1:01:27
  pace. Back better, blocker overall and
• 1:01:31
  they do use him in some of the heavier packages around the goal
• 1:01:34
  line, in place of Hall to kind of punch it in. 46.
• 1:01:41
  All right. And you know just kind of
• 1:01:44
  looking in general with these guys Hall is I would say the
• 1:01:47
  lead back of the to he's out Carrie Smith by, you know, over
• 1:01:52
  30 carries in, you know, Georgia Tech's first, eight game so
• 1:01:56
  roughly getting probably four to five more touches, probably
• 1:01:59
  seeing the field 8 to 10, more snaps than Smith just based on
• 1:02:06
  that. But obviously Smith has the nose
• 1:02:08
  for the end zone. We're Hall doesn't and even
• 1:02:12
  though we've mentioned that this is a run team and you see Jeff
• 1:02:15
  Sims numbers. You know he's got over 300 total
• 1:02:18
  rushing yards with a touchdown. They do have some receivers you
• 1:02:22
  know and as we started kind of looking at a little bit of
• 1:02:26
  everybody, I thought about going to Nate McCullum.
• 1:02:30
  Who is their leading Rod receiver.
• 1:02:32
  But something with Malachi Carter just kind of caught my
• 1:02:36
  eye on a couple, his games couple of his games.
• 1:02:39
  He only had a few catches but put up kind of bigger numbers
• 1:02:44
  and I wanted to kind of get your feel on him.
• 1:02:47
  Brian you know was a three-star when he came out in 2018 out of
• 1:02:51
  Georgia. What makes him a little
• 1:02:54
  difference where I see a couple of those games where he kind of
• 1:02:56
  popped over 15 yards, a carry. Yeah, most of that is from the
• 1:03:01
  yards after the catch. He has good hands.
• 1:03:03
  He runs. Well, after the catch, mostly
• 1:03:06
  works from the outside sometimes for the slot dangerous in the
• 1:03:10
  open field, he's not really used much in the screen game though
• 1:03:15
  that makes most of his hay in that kind of intermediate range.
• 1:03:18
  So when they are attacking a little bit more downfield,
• 1:03:22
  that's kind of where he makes his hay.
• 1:03:24
  And he's he does a pretty good job after the catch with some of
• 1:03:27
  those balls. Yeah.
• 1:03:30
  I wanted to focus on that also when Brown when you kind of
• 1:03:33
  through your notes in there and it kind of made me think this
• 1:03:37
  tackles been better this year, but he's the guy we do not want
• 1:03:42
  to see, get the ball in space and start missing tackles, he
• 1:03:44
  will make us pay. So I hope we can keep him under
• 1:03:49
  wraps for the game but again also listen mate, McCullum EJ
• 1:03:54
  Jenkins just a couple other wide receiver names.
• 1:03:56
  They're all right Braun let's talk about it.
• 1:03:59
  It will talk about the scheme on the offense and let's talk about
• 1:04:02
  the offensive line. Yeah.
• 1:04:05
  I mean I'd say probably especially in past Pro.
• 1:04:07
  This is the the worst offensive line unit.
• 1:04:09
  We've seen since BC, we need to stay aggressive and keep
• 1:04:13
  pressure on them. To keep them frustrated, they
• 1:04:16
  are good when they can kind of create predictable outcomes.
• 1:04:22
  They're not good. When you get aggressive with
• 1:04:25
  them. When you confuse them, they
• 1:04:28
  become a shell. So if we can stay aggressive the
• 1:04:31
  whole game and bring some pressure, especially in a game
• 1:04:34
  where we're not quite as worried about the downfield throws, you
• 1:04:38
  know, you, hopefully we can, we can hold up on the back and a
• 1:04:41
  little bit better than we did laid against NC State.
• 1:04:44
  But I mean we're looking at it kind of a Smash Mouth spread,
• 1:04:46
  it's going to be heavy, heavy heavy Zone.
• 1:04:49
  Read our po elements, they're not taking a ton of shots
• 1:04:54
  downfield. This is very much a run focused
• 1:04:57
  run first offense And without Sims their damn near a triple
• 1:05:04
  option team. A lot of times guys, we know
• 1:05:10
  about Georgia Tech in the triple option but you know, they really
• 1:05:14
  kind of become that that type of almost run exclusive.
• 1:05:19
  Unless they're, they're playing from behind type team.
• 1:05:22
  They were down multiple scores against FSU and they were still,
• 1:05:27
  you know, run run. and then pass when they had to So that they
• 1:05:34
  were going to, they definitely want to run the football if
• 1:05:37
  they're going to have success in the offense woman Chosen and
• 1:05:40
  he's chosen the staffs mean they're under six.
• 1:05:43
  Yeah, it hurt game. I mean per attempt under six and
• 1:05:48
  temp, that's just ugly. Yeah, I think if we do a good
• 1:05:51
  job attacking that mesh point that that'll kind of keep things
• 1:05:56
  in a more predictable outcome, make sure that we kind of Let
• 1:06:00
  Jeff Sims give it as much as you can.
• 1:06:05
  That would be ideal or put him in a no-win situation where if
• 1:06:12
  he gives it or keeps it. He's kind of eat up that that's
• 1:06:15
  kind of what we need to do. Keep him living in Hell a little
• 1:06:18
  bit, but getting a lead on them, early could really help them.
• 1:06:22
  Help us kind of get them out of their game plan there because
• 1:06:25
  they definitely want to run the ball.
• 1:06:26
  They definitely want to kill clock.
• 1:06:28
  It's still that type of offense. Even though we're not seeing
• 1:06:31
  that that triple option that flexbone, that we saw from
• 1:06:37
  Georgia Tech for years, but it's, but it's me, but it's
• 1:06:40
  funny, you say it could get them out of their game plan, but on
• 1:06:43
  the other hand they just might stay in their game plan and we
• 1:06:46
  get up 21 nothing like we're just going to keep running the
• 1:06:48
  ball. Thank you.
• 1:06:51
  All right. He's gonna keep running the ball
• 1:06:54
  and not having any success and I mean they doing well enough, but
• 1:06:58
  they're not, they're not moving it.
• 1:07:00
  Consistently enough to. Yeah, it's like they'll have an
• 1:07:03
  eight or ten yard gain a little back it up with the two or three
• 1:07:05
  or one or two, and sometimes a negative play and next thing you
• 1:07:09
  know, they're punting. So he's was that.
• 1:07:12
  That's kind of how we've got a got to do it.
• 1:07:14
  We can't let you know, one or two, first downs, kind of create
• 1:07:18
  that tidal wave where they end up rolling into the end zone.
• 1:07:21
  We got to make sure that we're getting off the field.
• 1:07:24
  Absolutely. Alright.
• 1:07:26
  So next guy, Braun, we're going to flip over to defense first.
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  Go on Talk about guy who started his playing career as class of
• 1:07:34
  2017 at Old Dominion, he transferred in to Georgia Tech.
• 1:07:41
  He was a two-star when he came out of high school down.
• 1:07:44
  In Garner, North Carolina at Garner, High School, a ski on
• 1:07:48
  white. And you know, so far this
• 1:07:50
  season, four sacks leading the team in sacks.
• 1:07:54
  You know, thirty five tackles past deflection as well and he's
• 1:07:59
  at prototypical All the build your love on 65 286.
• 1:08:05
  How does he show on tape? Really good.
• 1:08:09
  Actually, he's kind of a guy that they use in a lot of
• 1:08:15
  different ways. He's got really good size, which
• 1:08:20
  helps him kind of slide into a three technique.
• 1:08:22
  When they go with a different line set, but he's also kind of
• 1:08:25
  that big in that can also rush the passer.
• 1:08:27
  Well, the only thing he doesn't do great, he's not he's not very
• 1:08:32
  good at shedding blocks and and for his size he can get moved
• 1:08:35
  out of the gaps but Wendy can shoot a gap and penetrate that's
• 1:08:40
  kind of where he makes his hey and he does a good job there.
• 1:08:44
  And like I said, for his size very above average pass rusher,
• 1:08:48
  whether he's lined up outside the tackle or inside the tackle,
• 1:08:53
  Alrighty, let's flip now, let's look at the two linebackers.
• 1:08:57
  Let's start with Charlie Thomas. First of all Thomas out of
• 1:09:00
  Thomasville High School in Georgia class of 18, a high 3
• 1:09:05
  star in the state of Georgia. Top 50 player down there when he
• 1:09:08
  came out. And so far this year, I mean, 70
• 1:09:11
  total tackles which is second on the yellow jackets.
• 1:09:16
  Behind one guy will talk about in a few minutes.
• 1:09:18
  He has a sack, he's forced a fumble, couple of interceptions,
• 1:09:21
  6220 Seven, where is he lining up on it with Charlie?
• 1:09:28
  Yes, so he's a, the positions called money.
• 1:09:31
  It's actually similar to the backer that we were used to, in
• 1:09:36
  the Bud Foster system. So he's better against the Run
• 1:09:41
  than the past. He will Blitz but not quite as
• 1:09:44
  often as the guy that we're going to talk about next.
• 1:09:48
  Navigates the trash. Well to get to an attack is Gap
• 1:09:51
  responsibilities, he's inconsistent in coverage but
• 1:09:56
  he's pretty solid when he can kind of read react and drive on
• 1:10:00
  a route versus having to sit back and kind of pass guys
• 1:10:04
  through zones or working man, it will miss a tackle occasionally,
• 1:10:10
  especially when he's in Pursuit, but he's really good.
• 1:10:13
  He's kind of playing downhill and is able to kind of square
• 1:10:15
  guys up. When you talk about the
• 1:10:18
  inconsistency in coverage, is it, is it just the eyes are the
• 1:10:23
  odds? Is it just looks like the heads
• 1:10:25
  going everywhere versus, you know, focus on one thing we see
• 1:10:30
  when I hear you say inconsistent, the first thing I
• 1:10:31
  think of is he's not looking at the quarterback.
• 1:10:34
  He's looking at the Players moving around him.
• 1:10:37
  We're when you're in zone, it's like look where the quarterback
• 1:10:40
  is, if a guy crosses you that's fine, but you still shouldn't be
• 1:10:45
  there. Because if you're looking at
• 1:10:46
  him, He comes back across the field.
• 1:10:48
  Well, you're going to be a half a second leg.
• 1:10:50
  You're not even gonna be in the play.
• 1:10:52
  Yeah, it looks like he's thinking too much.
• 1:10:55
  A lot of times when he's in that kind of true Zone, when he's
• 1:10:59
  able to kind of see everything in front of him and just react
• 1:11:02
  to it a lot better. Nice.
• 1:11:05
  So nice kind of what it is. Alright now let's flip to the
• 1:11:09
  next Jack. As I said there were he has 70
• 1:11:11
  tackles? You know, that's average antenna
• 1:11:12
  game. I need a lot.
• 1:11:15
  Number two linebacker. R63 233 pounds out of Olney,
• 1:11:21
  Maryland, 82. Tackles three and a half sacks.
• 1:11:26
  Three forced fumbles, just last week against FSU.
• 1:11:29
  He had 11 tackles. So, it's been consistent all
• 1:11:33
  year. When he came back out in 2017.
• 1:11:36
  He was recruited to Maryland. He did not come originally to
• 1:11:42
  Georgia Tech. So, he was a transfer from
• 1:11:45
  Maryland and he was a Our had a good you know you take a look at
• 1:11:50
  his list. We did show some interest in him
• 1:11:53
  being up at Good Counsel. It's a pretty good high school
• 1:11:54
  command but a lot of good looks for him back.
• 1:11:58
  Then what's the tape showing? You know, the statistics say it
• 1:12:06
  is he their best player on defense or Yeah, best overall
• 1:12:11
  player on defense, he plays the Mac position which is the mic in
• 1:12:16
  the defense. He's got good length, plays
• 1:12:19
  fast, especially when he's blitzing.
• 1:12:22
  He does a good job of reading the play and attacking his Gap.
• 1:12:25
  Good tackler, especially at the point of attack, when he's kind
• 1:12:29
  of between the tackles, they're not bad in coverage, but he does
• 1:12:33
  struggle struggle when covering kind of athletic players like a
• 1:12:37
  joke or tight in or wide receiver.
• 1:12:40
  And he does that sometimes struggle to shed block.
• 1:12:42
  So that's kind of. If we can get him tied up in the
• 1:12:44
  in the middle there we can kind of neutralize them a little bit.
• 1:12:48
  So I hear you say that. That fourth statement there
• 1:12:50
  about covering athletic tight ends, do you think this is a
• 1:12:53
  game where Gallo should be at H put right on that kind of that
• 1:12:58
  Wing back and force him to cover.
• 1:13:02
  Yeah, I would, I would put him in as much force position as we
• 1:13:06
  can where he's got to do stuff in space and cover in space and
• 1:13:10
  make them run. Make him run as much as
• 1:13:12
  possible. Alrighty.
• 1:13:14
  Alrighty, let's flip it. One last player on the defensive
• 1:13:18
  side of the ball and that is Le Mi Brooks the defensive back.
• 1:13:22
  Le miles from Trinity Christian Academy that name has a afford,
• 1:13:30
  some other good players from down.
• 1:13:32
  There he is the class of 2020. Yes he did get a Virginia Tech
• 1:13:36
  offer. No, he did not commit and he was
• 1:13:39
  a pretty highly rated player for Star composite cop. 260 player
• 1:13:44
  nationally a top 20 quarter pipe 50 in Florida.
• 1:13:49
  We actually were a favorite tool and him back in 2020 and
• 1:13:55
  obviously we missed their know. We weren't no you weren't that.
• 1:13:59
  We had badly 2020 class man. Back to haunt us still still so
• 1:14:05
  far this season, I love the stat line from to be a defensive
• 1:14:09
  back. Thirty three, tackles two
• 1:14:12
  interceptions and five past deflected.
• 1:14:15
  So he has been around the ball a lot this year and also had a
• 1:14:19
  fumble recovery. So clearly a nose for the ball.
• 1:14:23
  What's what? Smile showing in the secondary
• 1:14:28
  Yeah, so you play safety for this team.
• 1:14:31
  He's probably the best playmaker in their secondary.
• 1:14:33
  Really great. In pursued, making them feel
• 1:14:35
  tackles finish his plays. Well, when he has spill area
• 1:14:38
  responsibilities, he's good but occasionally sloppy with those
• 1:14:43
  run fits so that's something that we can potentially exploit.
• 1:14:48
  He's also good coverage but he can be exposed in one-on-one.
• 1:14:52
  He's very much better when he's in the zone.
• 1:14:56
  All right, let's flip it over now.
• 1:14:57
  Brian. Let's talk about this scheme.
• 1:14:59
  Obviously you mentioned something we were familiar with,
• 1:15:03
  so I'm going to assume 425 425 but they do.
• 1:15:07
  They are multiple so you'll see them kind of mix-and-match
• 1:15:09
  fronts. They use that kind of standing D
• 1:15:13
  in. It's kind of a hybrid player
• 1:15:15
  that they'll slide into a backer position and then slide there
• 1:15:18
  Sam kind of into more true nickel.
• 1:15:21
  So they kind of morph a little bit into a little bit of a 33
• 1:15:26
  little bit of a Or kind of depending on what they need, but
• 1:15:30
  they are a base for 25 and they try to switch up those fronts to
• 1:15:35
  create confusion to create matchups, that work for them.
• 1:15:39
  They bring pressure fairly regularly, usually kind of Zone
• 1:15:43
  Blitz in the early parts of a drive.
• 1:15:45
  They'll go more man Blitz as they kind of get pushed further
• 1:15:48
  into their own territory. They force a decent amount of
• 1:15:52
  turnovers usually off pressure, and they're very much kind of a
• 1:15:57
  Bend don't break for. Safiye.
• 1:15:59
  You can score on them, but they're going to try to hold you
• 1:16:03
  two, three. All right.
• 1:16:05
  Well you mentioned the force turnovers off pressure.
• 1:16:08
  Let's go to the Hokies in the first thing we can talk about,
• 1:16:10
  is their turnover margin. They are a top five team in the
• 1:16:15
  country in turnover margin with plus 12.
• 1:16:19
  Not a lot of plus 12 teams are three and five.
• 1:16:22
  So I got nerdy and just started looking at the game films and in
• 1:16:26
  their three wins their plus 7. So clearly in those wins, you
• 1:16:33
  know, They turn the ball over and that was against Western
• 1:16:37
  Carolina. Oh man, Duke I had Duke 23:10 in
• 1:16:45
  pit, so they forced a lot of turnovers in those three games.
• 1:16:49
  So in the five losses though, they still created Five
• 1:16:53
  turnovers. That's a turnover game.
• 1:16:54
  So I dug a little deeper. They forced to against UVA and
• 1:16:59
  they lost by a touchdown. They had one in a blowout loss
• 1:17:03
  to Ole Miss and they Two against FSU who also blew the doors off
• 1:17:07
  of them. And the other two losses, it was
• 1:17:11
  an even battle. So in three of their losses,
• 1:17:15
  they were +5 and they got outscored by like Almost 100,
• 1:17:24
  they have to force turnovers to win games.
• 1:17:26
  That's clear. Yeah.
• 1:17:27
  Maybe force turnovers to be competitive.
• 1:17:30
  Be competitive. It even when they force a bunch
• 1:17:32
  UVA, it bores to turn over against that.
• 1:17:36
  Bad offense, came up with seven points against not, a really
• 1:17:39
  good defense even when they forced a can lose.
• 1:17:42
  So I sit here Brian and I ask you, I think we just have to be
• 1:17:46
  aggressive because what they've shown is even when they forced
• 1:17:50
  turnovers I don't do a hell of a lot with it.
• 1:17:54
  Yeah, we definitely can't revert into a shell, every if we make a
• 1:17:57
  mistake, we got to keep being aggressive, pushing the ball
• 1:18:01
  downfield, keep them on edge because I mean they show against
• 1:18:05
  FSU. They had essentially a six-point
• 1:18:08
  turn around on one play where they forced a fumble with FSU
• 1:18:12
  inside the, their 5-yard line and they ran it back to like the
• 1:18:15
  22, yard line and only got three out of it.
• 1:18:18
  And they had another turnover later and later in that same
• 1:18:21
  quarter, FSU had two turnovers early, Laying was winning the
• 1:18:25
  whole game. I mean, this isn't, this isn't
• 1:18:27
  something where, you know, they do a whole lot with those
• 1:18:30
  turnovers. So if if it happens, Don't
• 1:18:34
  Panic. Stay aggressive on offense.
• 1:18:36
  Stay aggressive on defense. Don't let that Sudden Change
• 1:18:40
  become six points. That's it, but it's also
• 1:18:45
  difficult them to score points and that's where I go to the
• 1:18:49
  next key is it's going to be our defense General.
• 1:18:52
  This defense is This is 118th in the country, they are not a good
• 1:18:56
  offense, their 125th and score there.
• 1:18:58
  Below us in scoring Which says a lot not good Bob.
• 1:19:04
  I mean, even in their three wins, the offense has not been
• 1:19:07
  good at all and their biggest scoring output was 26 versus
• 1:19:11
  pit. So you talk about a defense Get
• 1:19:15
  Right game. We look good for three quarters.
• 1:19:17
  Last week let's bring it for quarters.
• 1:19:19
  Like this team like we did against BC and keep them under
• 1:19:23
  two touchdowns. Yep.
• 1:19:27
  Yeah and the big thing is slowing that run down if we can
• 1:19:29
  slow that run down there. Not going to be a team that can
• 1:19:32
  do anything offensively. So we'll see.
• 1:19:35
  Speaking of Run games, I think the Hokies Run game is going to
• 1:19:38
  be a geeky, said it in the Press today.
• 1:19:41
  Malachi's doubtful, which gives me a sliver of Hope, but also
• 1:19:46
  gives me a sliver of Hope to that.
• 1:19:48
  He won't play until he's ready and good news back.
• 1:19:53
  He Shaun King probable, so would likely going to see him probably
• 1:19:57
  the combination of Holsten and Duke but Georgia.
• 1:20:00
  Tech. I mean I look back at the UNC
• 1:20:03
  game and talked about them being a bad offense.
• 1:20:07
  As far as rushing, the ball Georgia Tech 101 this year,
• 1:20:11
  giving up over 177 yards a game. So I think between the
• 1:20:16
  combination of Wells King Holston and Duke, I want to see
• 1:20:21
  at least 130 to 140 yards on 30 to 35 carries.
• 1:20:25
  A fellow made me feel better but maybe three-and-a-half is where
• 1:20:30
  I should be happy. Per attempt, we got to do better
• 1:20:34
  than we did last week and I know this is the way.
• 1:20:37
  This is a big step down in terms of front and in terms of
• 1:20:41
  linebacker play overall. And that's not knocking the two
• 1:20:46
  guys. I mean, I think they're probably
• 1:20:47
  two of the better players on this defense but we were looking
• 1:20:51
  at three NFL caliber linebackers last week.
• 1:20:55
  We were and some solid players in that front.
• 1:20:59
  You know, we rang Not getting that this week.
• 1:21:03
  Now the this is a big step down. We should see better this week
• 1:21:09
  in the running game. So if we if we can get like you
• 1:21:12
  said, I think 135 would be a good number 140.
• 1:21:18
  If we get above 150 great but we can get around that 135 140
• 1:21:22
  range at or just above three and a half a Kerry.
• 1:21:27
  I think that'll be effective enough especially for being
• 1:21:29
  aggressive and pushing the ball downfield.
• 1:21:30
  The passing game abso-freakin'-lutely.
• 1:21:35
  Let's go back and talk about what we talked about earlier.
• 1:21:39
  The biggest key to this game and hopefully growing some
• 1:21:43
  confidence with this team is we've got a string, the multiple
• 1:21:47
  quarters of productive football across all elements.
• 1:21:51
  Yep, it's what we're missing it. I mean we can attest to it and
• 1:21:56
  probably say, if you Street a couple extra quarters in pit in
• 1:22:01
  Miami and one more quarter in NC State.
• 1:22:06
  It's three wins versus three losses, two teams, five and two.
• 1:22:10
  Yep. And and that's it.
• 1:22:11
  Let's look at let's look at NC State and head too bad.
• 1:22:14
  Quarters of special teams play. Get two and a half.
• 1:22:17
  Bad quarters of offense and we had one bad quarter defense.
• 1:22:21
  Yeah. And All Canes at separate points
• 1:22:24
  during the game. Yep.
• 1:22:26
  Offense early. When the defense was humming
• 1:22:29
  defense and offense Lady, Heather in the third quarter.
• 1:22:34
  You know, you outscored team 21-7, that's big, that's what
• 1:22:37
  you want, every quarter, and then the Special Teams, you
• 1:22:39
  know, I think it was first and fourth one is good but it's just
• 1:22:43
  stinging the string and the quarters together because that
• 1:22:47
  builds momentum that builds confidence.
• 1:22:49
  You see guys play better and I think a team like this that
• 1:22:54
  don't do not have the Firepower to hit you back quick.
• 1:23:01
  It's kind of what the Hokies need and Brian, let's flip it.
• 1:23:03
  Over and let's talk about predictions on this game.
• 1:23:06
  And unfortunately, for me and you for a while.
• 1:23:09
  Now we've been going against the Hokies.
• 1:23:12
  And you know what's your feels this week?
• 1:23:16
  Well, I'm not going against the Hokies this weekend.
• 1:23:20
  I've got an actual repeat of last year's final score.
• 1:23:25
  All right. I think that we're going to be
• 1:23:28
  effective driving the football. I think we probably don't close
• 1:23:31
  as many drives as we'd like to, but we're effective enough
• 1:23:35
  moving the football against this defense.
• 1:23:38
  I think we give up a couple scores to them but then we kind
• 1:23:44
  of settle in and we finish this off.
• 1:23:49
  I've got 26. Toki's and I'm not far behind
• 1:23:54
  you because I do hope that we can continue our streak of
• 1:23:58
  picking these games correctly. I'm going a little less than you
• 1:24:01
  on both sides. I think it's 2410.
• 1:24:04
  Hokies I think what we saw last week with that defense, NC state
• 1:24:10
  has some play makers. We talked about that.
• 1:24:12
  They were missing the quarterback and I think what
• 1:24:13
  they found last week was likely the guys going to succeed leery
• 1:24:16
  when he steps away. And I really think defensively,
• 1:24:21
  I can't see watching Georgia Tech a few times this year.
• 1:24:25
  They just looked pitiful offensively and with no real
• 1:24:28
  threat of a passing game. I think Brent pry probably can
• 1:24:32
  feel comfortable playing some guys.
• 1:24:33
  He may not be as comfortable with and I think we pull the W
• 1:24:38
  and I think it's going to It's going to feel nice on Saturday
• 1:24:41
  afternoon, As we sit down and crack a game for our big
• 1:24:47
  screener. We're not picking separate games
• 1:24:50
  this week, there is only one game in the AP, they're 12 and
• 1:24:54
  the cfp they're 13 and that's Georgia versus Tennessee and
• 1:24:59
  that's obviously hidden hooker, Georgia is 8 point favorite down
• 1:25:04
  in Athens between the hedges, the over-under is 66.
• 1:25:09
  And this has been one, I've been just thinking about sitting at
• 1:25:12
  the baseball game, even thinking about it umpire was a has a son
• 1:25:17
  that Tech fan. We're not technically a text
• 1:25:20
  using the senior up there and I think what I'm going to have to
• 1:25:25
  say is I think I'm going to take Tennessee to win the game
• 1:25:31
  outright and I am going to go over the 66.
• 1:25:36
  Okay, thank what I'm kind of feeling in this situation.
• 1:25:40
  Is something like a 3833 game where it's going to be a war.
• 1:25:49
  But let me get your, let me get your predictions first.
• 1:25:52
  And then, let's I want to kind of hit what we talked about
• 1:25:54
  earlier about this game. Okay?
• 1:25:58
  Okay, I'm going to go 34-31, I'm taking Tennessee to win outright
• 1:26:09
  and then the under just barely hits.
• 1:26:13
  You're gonna be sweating that if it really, is their 34 late.
• 1:26:17
  But let's talk about what we Talked about Brian.
• 1:26:21
  We were discussing this game because we talked about this
• 1:26:23
  game for 15 minutes a day. And I said to you, If Tennessee
• 1:26:30
  gets up two scores, early. Do you have the confidence that
• 1:26:37
  Georgia can fire power back? I think they can, but it's it's
• 1:26:47
  not, it's not a sure thing, right?
• 1:26:49
  Because we've seen up and down, ability in that area.
• 1:26:53
  Kent State. Yeah.
• 1:26:55
  So, you know, it's really hard to say, you know, are there, do
• 1:27:01
  they have that in them, you know, when we look at the, we
• 1:27:04
  were talking about taking out the outliers earlier and Kent
• 1:27:08
  State's kind of the kind of one of the outliers.
• 1:27:10
  Therefore, for George, And we said Mizzou is the big outlier.
• 1:27:15
  Yeah. Mizzou is the other outlier
• 1:27:17
  there because if I got Georgia, pains, listen to this.
• 1:27:20
  Y'all were saved by the rest at night.
• 1:27:22
  There were some penalties that happen that if the flag had been
• 1:27:25
  thrown a couple extra scores wouldn't happen in Georgia,
• 1:27:28
  would be a one-loss team right now.
• 1:27:31
  That's my opinion. Yeah, when you're, when you're
• 1:27:33
  right, when you're right tackle, clearly false starts on Third
• 1:27:36
  and goal and you get a touchdown from it.
• 1:27:41
  That helps out with a 4-point game.
• 1:27:43
  Big time. But we mentioned it the other
• 1:27:46
  way because I think if Georgia gets up early, I think
• 1:27:49
  Tennessee's got they are running so vertical, they are so
• 1:27:54
  attacking them filled with hypos offense.
• 1:27:56
  If they get down early, I think they're just going to keep
• 1:27:59
  swinging. It keeps swinging it and I think
• 1:28:02
  to a point where we've seen come times with Kirby Smart he'll get
• 1:28:05
  into those man's. He wants to play man.
• 1:28:08
  He wants to be aggressive up front.
• 1:28:11
  He hadn't quite bone X and quite henin hooker and I think the
• 1:28:16
  wide receiver core at Tennessee's a little bit better.
• 1:28:19
  But you know, I think it's gonna be a hell of a game.
• 1:28:23
  I think it's gonna be a fun to watch.
• 1:28:24
  Thank God, too hokey game will be over so we can enjoy it.
• 1:28:27
  Yeah. Versus you've been keeping
• 1:28:29
  looking on our other one here. All right.
• 1:28:31
  Yeah. I think I think when you see
• 1:28:33
  that, I think they're if Georgia wants to pull it out, I feel
• 1:28:36
  like George is going to have to get to Hendon consistently.
• 1:28:40
  That's going to be the only way that they're going to pull it
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  out and if they're doing that and they miss him there's gonna
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  be a lot of space for him to run and we know that he can run.
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  All right, big man, has anything broken, almost eleven twenty on.
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  Tuesday night, 90 minutes on the dot here. 90 minutes on the dot.
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  We did, it baseball game is. See that score real quick for
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  you wrap here, baseball games over and afters?
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  Got shut out seven new. Ouch, ouch couldn't happen to a
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  better team. Oh, and don't let Doug here that
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  don't like when you got. We got a braised fan kind of.
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  Pulling for the Phillies, you know, it's some foul shit.
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