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Finding A Cure With ERRA · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  All right, take two. Good thanks so much. Tutting into heavy podcast.
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  Today, we're here at the Fortitude Music Hall in Brisbane with Chess and
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  Jail, Jess sorry and JT from here who come all the way over to
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  play some shows with not playing. Yes, sir, I'll want to shake
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  your hand twice because so how are you going, guys? Like, what's
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  what's the process? Like? Did you come in a couple of days earlier
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  to a climatize and relax or splice right in and get into it? Uh?
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  Yeah, normally you like to definitely one of the more painful travel experiences
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  for this occasion. We got here like I think I put my back down
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  in the room at nine pm last night. So yeah, normally we've tried
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  to get in the morning. But I guess however, the travel plans worked
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  out. We were we were here to kind of leave. It was a
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  long, long day of travel. How'd you go with Jed? Like you
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  couldn't your sleep getting straight off the plane up a bit? Uh? You
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  like eleven hours the plane slept like maybe four or five like would like it
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  on the plane taking off on I'm gone, I can't. I'm like claustrophobic
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  and uncomfortable. I don't like it. You do, you do what you
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  can. But you know, if we had to play that morning, I'm
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  sure we all could, but we would just hate ourselves. You just snake
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  too. We've suffered before, we'll suffer for your again. Yeah, and
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  you guys are here in Bridgemond, all the way from Birmingham, Alabama made
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  for shows with North Lane landmarks and banks. Would start tonight BRISI and then
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  you go through Sydney, Melbourne and Adelaide and finishing Perth on probably the seven
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  eighth run as circus. Like, how do you prepare yourself mentally? I
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  guess for a runner show so far away from homelanders. I mean, honestly,
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  we most of the time we're so excited to share our music with anybody
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  that's not in the US because we know how appreciative they they are of us
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  coming over here. So we're only excited to be here. Yes, there's
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  like a lot of like technical hurt alls and getting getting our gear here,
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  but like all in all, we're just excited to show up and rock.
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  Like We've never not had a great time overseas, so we're very grateful for
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  that hammer songs just s being here a couple of songs every day. Yeah
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  think, yeah, how do you write a straying crowds as opposed to risk
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  among the best animals? Yeah yeah, we prefer the animalstic Yeah, I
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  mean, I mean, what's funny is you're like even in Japan where they're
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  very respectful, they're still they still even get wild too. So like everywhere
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  you go, like people, people know what to do and music most of
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  the time, which is nice, like a little bit off track. But
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  I remember watching on in Japan from Northwest and not steal pantable playing and I'm
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  just looking around. I'm waiting for play, just to see, just to
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  see how I did it. I loved it all right, loved it.
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  Expecting people back in Yeah yeah, I'd be a band that might rob you
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  the wrong way. But that's like that's that's a fun band. They know
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  what they are, they're fad I gotta watch it. Yeah, it's not
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  fair money. It's like the maybe the modern day Bloodhound Gang. Ye blood
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  Gang. Yeah, oh my god, I get off that one. Yeah
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  yeah, and you guys a no Australi situated with north Lane either, like
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  these being the rights a bit of a romance happening there. Oh my god,
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  we go way back. You Frozen Flame with them, then did what
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  two American tours with them, one Europe and this is our second time in
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  Australia with them. Yeah, even before my time. They did August Brinds
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  Red Frozen Flame tour in like twenty fifteen. Yeah, yeah, so that
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  was I think the first time you guys met them. What is the band?
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  What you like? Is it? This is a musica connect with this?
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  Is it a friendship? Like? Uh? People people associate our band
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  sounds so like people like fan It's kind of consider us like sort of whatever,
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  like brother bands or whatever, but based on based on the way our
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  band's sounding. Yeah, it's kind of always been like that since we started
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  in twenty eleven, the American Northland or the Australian era, you know era.
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  Yeah, and we've also got the French band I believe called Landmarks and
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  Banks, Like, do you know much about those guys? No, I've
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  not really met any of them. I think Connor knows one of the Landmark
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  members from like back in the day. Yeah, yeah, first dates,
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  we haven't gotten gott a chance to hang out with them. Much metags Hi.
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  Yeah, I remember I actually got the ships with those guys the first
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  time we interviewed him because there one of name one who has got to be
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  instead of the vowel in the landmarks. So yes, and I'm just I
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  just had a stupid dumb moment I'm reading, I'm knowing how to pronounce it.
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  Oh no, So that's why I always got pretty much their fault.
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  That's why I Spanish introduce themselves now before the interview starts, because then they
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  say their name, and I've got this change for sucking up. That's a
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  great way to introduce somebody if you forget their name, introduce them to somebody
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  else and have them always say this is and they're not walk away, so
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  that look like I'm ready. Then they say the name that cuts you on
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  the way off. So yeah, I've done that many years gone. I'll
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  be like, Jesse, introduce yourself so I can get their name from you.
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  This is my mate. You were last out here in September twenty twenty
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  two with the pot in you. So what's changed with the band that in
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  that couple of years? From Benje on air, we just we're promoting a
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  new record coming out in April. That's that's kind of the biggest change.
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  So yeah, so this is yeah, we have a new music to play,
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  a couple of newer songs from the record to play. It's so funny
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  how fast like music that we just put out already feels old to us,
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  you know, already played a bunch kind of ready to play the new stuff
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  already. You would have been sitting on that album for a bit of time
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  before it came out. Also, like to us, it's been out eighteen
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  months, but to you, yeah, for three or four. Yeah,
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  it's funny how quickly that happens. Like you're so excited to play it and
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  you're like, all right, I'm sick. Yeah, yeah again. But
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  then you you know, then you sit on it, you play it,
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  you don't play it, and then you come back to it years later and
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  you're like, oh, yeah, these songs are fun. I forgot about
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  these. I still regod from Bridge Australian band called the Screaming Jets the other
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  day and they've got a song called Better that came out in the nineties,
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  I think, and he was saying, since that came out in the nineties,
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  they haven't played one show where they haven't played that song. Oh that
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  was That's like hybrid Earth for Eric for a for a long time, and
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  we finally retired it. How did you go to get a bit of back
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  last when he did? Yeah, I mean we played it for a couple
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  of tours when I joined, But then once we started putting like two or
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  three records out, the same thing, you know, the same thing kind
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  of happens. Yeah, yeah, I mean eventually we'll have to retire,
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  like even songs like snow Blood then, which is weird to think about.
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  I remember from last time Gravy like the big buzz about you guys was your
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  live show, Like everyone was just blowing away by how good it was.
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  So what are you going to do this time to top it? Like you've
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  got to you've got up too and a bit nothing nothing, do the same
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  thing. Hopefully it be just as good and consistent that you'll have to tell
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  us. I'm going to go and the kids tonight. Unfortunately, I was
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  gonna love to say around, but they won't let me. Need into the
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  seven year old. I'm going to try that. I'm still going to try
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  it. Just cover the years, protect the years, you know, I'll
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  try not to curse too much, hope the time bad like the Australian Way.
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  Where are we so for people that might not have seen you guys before,
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  like describe a typical era live show, like do you sort of go
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  out there with something in mine or is it just all mayhem? We definitely
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  care a lot about the flow of the set. We will go back and
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  forth about the set list for like weeks at a time, kind of look
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  at it as a whole, see where like the slower parts are. And
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  I think there has been one occasion where we kind of like misjudge the flow
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  of the set within the tour well, like Yankee song out or like put
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  a song in just to change how it feels. But yeah, most importantly,
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  we just want to have like the heavy parts the soft parts of the
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  crowd moments, making sure the space in between songs like too long where it's
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  like uncomfortable, it's very it's very purposeful. People don't sort of realize how
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  much cars here that or other. I think, did you sit there and
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  watch songs down for a set list, but you go to take into acting
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  so they flow into each other our changes. Yeah, yeah, make sure
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  you have enough strings for the next song you're gonna play would direct too many?
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  Yeah. I actually been sort of like Little String Band the other night
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  and I played the debut album Stop and Finish Well, and they're a great
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  band, much of a name, but live it didn't quite a down as
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  good on anything. When when you write an album, you don't write it
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  with a view if happened to play in the whole long life. One day,
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  I said there was the ups for actually been the downs is massive too.
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  There was my real flight. M. I feel like we kind of
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  do that though. Do you ever write with like I feel like you write
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  with the live presence in mind sometimes like how it's going to translate? Yeah,
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  maybe, I mean there's definitely been moments where we put a song in
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  the set and felt like, man, I didn't always gonna feel this slow
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  or something like that. But no, like even when I'm writing, I'll
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  write apart and be like, yeah, that's gonna be physically impossible to do
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  well, so I'll have to like kind of augment it or you know,
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  just kind of think about the performance for sure. And I think that's something
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  that we started to do a couple of years ago when we that actually happened
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  like, oh my god, Yeah, this is gonna make it really our
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  lives really difficult. So I don't know. I feel like that's a pretty
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  important part in the writing process, but who knows. We write pretty tough
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  music, so we kind of have to pay attention to that stuff that matter.
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  My Let just say you're on there and you're playing a song and you'll
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  feel and the it's not working, like, could you feel like back up
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  to Croyden. I can, but I've also been wrong. So he's gonna
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  miss interpret with a slow song. Yeah, because it's a slow song,
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  there's less there would be less movement, so I I just look to see
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  it if they're singing along. Yeah, that's kind of like the trade off
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  of like less physical movement is singing along in the song, and you get
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  that if neither of those two things are happening and it doesn't feel great,
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  you probably know. It's a pretty big difference for playing like ghosts at lists
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  versus hair at content too, because you know, we'll play like an hour
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  of grips and breakdowns and the o Satalas said that he'll play. The crowd
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  might love it just as much, but it's like it's not the same genre.
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  So one part, if you're in the crowd log I can tell because
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  you can hear people start the chalk, like when the slow song comes on,
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  like this little rupting startle all over the placements on it. I hope
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  they don't here. Yeah, people are tweeting actively while you're playing Getting Pants.
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  Yeah, I've been grateful lately, so that's been good. I think
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  not a not a lot of distracted viewers. So I think we're doing okay.
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  I want to stand, he goes, I when I was right be
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  id actually a big bit. You could get your in trouble which probably won't
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  use around you support north late life. When you go out on stage,
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  like in your head, are you going out there to war the crowd up
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  for the headline or you going down there just a smash them and just blow
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  everyone else's way? Yeah? Yeah, you want to go out there into
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  your best no matter what. You playing the same show, whether we're supporting
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  our headlining. But yeah, I mean hopefully as a support man, you
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  go you don't go to just kind of like boost up the headliner. You
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  go to like representing yourselves. So when people come see your show or your
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  headliner, they know what to expect. Yeah, I mean yeah, like
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  in the in the I get really pearly discouraged when I hear bands like who
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  are opening and say, you know, we'll play two more songs then we'll
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  get off stage. You don't have to hear us anymore. They like kind
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  of discredit themselves. I'm like, no, you guys belong there, Like
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  even though you're playing, even if you have twenty five thirty minutes, like
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  you earn that time slot and you should. You should represent yourselves as if
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  as big as you can. You know, more nervous, so you're about
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  to be nervous. Yeah, I mean that that could be a translation of
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  their nervousness into their dialogue. But I mean even I've been there in the
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  past, but I've I've learned to kind of change my mindset and my approach
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  to that. I think it's been very helpful. I'd a lot of shit,
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  Yeah, I mean, it's never been got their own own way to
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  kind of get through the nerves. Mine's mine's always to tell of course,
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  say something that makes no sense, but it just brings you back around.
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  Yeah, Ocean Grove from here. I told a crowd once that they were
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  doing their first Native American tour. Yeah, I'll never forget that one.
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  Even even in my years. My front of house guy was like, what
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  the he I'm sure my whole man was like this guy on microphone. Yeah,
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  live and learn that sense allot. When you front the band Light,
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  do you when you write your settly s Outlight? Do you write a settles
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  out that you think will appeal to the headline and band's crowd because of the
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  to them? What do you just do you do? Once? Does it
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  you want to do? Sometimes? Well, always like a healthy balance between
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  just doing doing your thing and then yeah and then kind of catering a little
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  bit to like people who may have never heard us. But yeah, it's
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  something in between. We would never just do a fully heavy set or a
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  fully soft set, but we'll balance it out based on that. Oh the
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  band like Northland, we can just kind of go out and do what we
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  do because our bands are so closely associated with one another. Yep sonically,
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  Yeah, that's true. So hypothetical question, do you guys you've just finished?
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  She said, He's a Stephen backstage, just telling yourselves down and whatever
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  you do? Okay, what that to have happened in that last forty five
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  minutes. Might you sit there and go, fuck, that was a bright
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  set uh energy in the crowd. I'm definitely one to like really feel that
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  emotional transference between like a wild crowd or a still crowd. Yeah, And
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  even if I do have a still crowd, if I ask like how everybody's
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  doing, and it's like a roar of flause, I'm like, oh,
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  okay, they're having fun. So it's not always just about how wild it
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  is. When we played with bad omens recently where a lot of them are
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  seeing us for the first time, and I'll even ask who is and it's
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  like nine percent of the crowd. So and those environments, you won't get
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  a lot of movement because they're not used to you, but they're still having
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  fun. You just kind of gotta realize that not every time you play,
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  they're gonna know who you are, and you just gotta you have to give
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  that same performance everywhere you go every time. Yeah, while we're on the
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  hypotheticals in like just you say that to the crowd, like you say as
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  everybody going tonight and you just get met back with a round of epathy,
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  Like how do you come up from that? Like does does it make you
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  take a step back and go, you fucked? You try not to human
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  nature like you have to, you gotta, you gotta, Like I think
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  there is like a responsibility to to try to play the same show every night
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  and to not be too judgmental towards the crowd because you don't know, like
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  sometimes you just get an introverted crowd or you know what I mean, or
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  if it's not your headliner, like you have to there's a bit of an
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  approving ground there. So you have to just kind of yeah, you kind
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  of gotta approach with more humility, you know what I mean, like and
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  just play the same show and just keep it together and not let your inside
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  You may be like, oh, this is like humiliating. I gotta I
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  gotta go backstage. But you gotta, like there's there's gotta be like an
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  effort to them. You don't you don't you don't expose that to them.
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  That's not professional you like, you know, at the end of the day,
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  like they paid money to just to see you, like or if they're
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  even there's there's see the headliner for that thirty minutes forty five minutes that they're
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  watching you, so like I think you do kind of owe it to them
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  to do your best, you know, like and why would you not want
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  to do that anyways, Like, yeah, you just gotta play the show
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  no matter what. Now. The other big thing happening in the world of
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  Era at the moment is on IPLL, the fifty or sixth studio album,
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  Qua will be unleashed on the world. Tell us ABO about that. It's
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  so crazy. Uh yeah, Heres, here's what we're pretty excited about is
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  our first time working with A Dan Bronstein. We put out the single which
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  is the title track, just put that out a week ago, so yeah,
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  pretty stoked to play that one. Pretty nervous to play it and stoked.
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  You know, it's the first show, so like I'm just play My
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  nerves are just like fucked on the first show. Yeah, I just want
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  to make sure everything works and you know we're good to go. But usually
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  by like a few days in, we're kind of broken in. But yeah,
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  with us being Australia, you play less shows in Australia when you tour,
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  so by the time we'll be broken in and comfortable, it will be
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  over. Think about as rians. I like and don't tell you to your
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  mother wife, like I have to say, he's gone Adam with bread and
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  fucking stop. Well, I mean like, yeah, there's definitely some cultures
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  out there and that will tell you to your face that you are bad and
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  you say thank you, but then they'll also buy your marks still, so
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  it's like, yeah, it is what it is. You've released the title
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  track here and you've also released Pyle Harris from the album, so I think
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  put some representation of what do you expect actually slip, Yeah, not really
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  to listen to the album last night, its fucking pro I was probably way
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  thank you we alady know the song sure Cure maybe maybe more so Cure,
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  but like not really like like like are the singles that we're gonna ring like
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  showcase as many sides of the record as possible. Yeah, the Scratches a
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  couple of inches, so yeah, So I don't know if any one song
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  really represents the record, which is nope. But I like that. I
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  like that about it. There's a lot of experimentation. I think this.
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  I think the record that we did before are like the commination of everything prior,
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  and then this record is kind of like an extension of what we were
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  kind of honing in on the last record. I was talking with my friend
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  today about it, and Intel does this like TikTok method when they release processors
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  that they like the starting on the socket and then the follow up, And
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  I feel like this is kind of an extension of what we were trying to
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  do with self tut. It was a very real Yeah, tell me to
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  me, I think this rutter is pretty different. Yeah, it sounds different
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  to me, Like, it definitely sounds different. It's just so re oriented
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  in that way. I think you're actually does represent the record pret well,
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  but just just like there's a lot more technicality and guitar wise in the right
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  hand versus the left, like a lot more like reallythic technicality and the time
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  signature, and there's a lot more a lot more stuff like that. Yeah,
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  I don't know. Yeah, yeah, that's one stands on to my
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  opinion like that. I suppose the main thing is it is a fool fans
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  of the band, not the album. I guess that's the main thing.
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  Well, then I'll be honest. Yeah, I mean, we have to
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  write music that we want to play, you know, so at the end
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  of the day, like we have to be happy with it. I think
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  we're pretty I'm I'm excited for everybody to dive in, you know, so
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  I hope they enjoy it. Yeah, And as we said, this is
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  your sixth album, guys, so how has his sound changed and thrown from
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  your debut Impulse of Q? And we found out during our rehearsals while we
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  were playing an Impulse song of how different it was. My god, these
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  were so different. Yeah, it's crazy, I mean kind of exploring the
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  dynamics of like what we liked as musicians, me joining the band, and
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  like how the songwriting has changed, as was all. Yeah, it's just
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  like it's like big growth. Really when you're tithings changed or was that something
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  you set out straight like was a pad thing? Or did I understand?
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  I can actually say pretty pretty compel like that. It's it's never been a
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  goal. So it's just kind of like a natural sort of shift, you
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  know. Music tastes change. Yeah, time goes by just it's just kind
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  of wo it's the way You're right, It's like it'll it'll just naturally change
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  the time. But yeah, yeah, so you finish off these running shows
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  that don't play the album comes out, what's the next Flayer. Off of
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  that, I can imagine he's going to a crazy year Eddie. Yeah,
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  can something's not like yes? Ye, More and more tourists probably fill the
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  schedule for sure. Bolright guys, Well, thanks very much for a good
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  time. The show starts tonight Fortitude Music or Brisbane. There's a sub tickets
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  left and it goes all the way through. Where do we say? We
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  got Perth, We've got Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide. So there's four good
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  bands playing. It's not just you, guys, there's four shold bands.
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  We've got a French band, We've got an American band, We've got Australian
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  Jewish railings. So bring your fucking pomposts head banging, beautiful guys. Thanks
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  very much for that. Appreciate apiate it, Thank you sweet, Thanks for
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  guys, it was good there any hungry star. I don't think you've got
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  anything on bank that you're like, there's a tab shop sight to the left.
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  Yeah, well there's