Transcript

Credlin | 11 July · Credlin

0:02
Speaker 1: Peter Krandland live on Sky News Australia.
0:08
Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the show. I'm James macpherson
0:11
Speaker 2: filling in for Peter Kredlin. Here's what's coming up. Details
0:15
Speaker 2: emerge over who's behind the Islamic political movement that could.
0:19
Speaker 3: Threaten key labour seats.
0:20
Speaker 2: I'll speak to the journalists who broke the exclusive story
0:23
Speaker 2: a bit later in the program for all Labours talk
0:27
Speaker 2: that gas will need to remain in the energy mix.
0:29
Speaker 2: That's not what their own energy consultation paper says. With
0:34
Speaker 2: investors being warned off gas now wonder our energy market
0:38
Speaker 2: is a mess with this mob picking winners and losers,
0:41
Speaker 2: plus with youth crime becoming one of the key election
0:43
Speaker 2: issues in Queensland. I'll catch up with the head of
0:46
Speaker 2: the police union, someone at the call face of the crisis,
0:49
Speaker 2: for his take on what needs to happen and could
0:52
Speaker 2: a Hollywood a lister be the straw that breaks the
0:56
Speaker 2: camel's back when it comes to Biden finally getting the
0:58
Speaker 2: message his supporters don't want him anymore more on that shortly.
1:04
Speaker 2: You know, local government is a pretty simple thing. Rates,
1:08
Speaker 2: roads and rubbish. Local residents pay their rates and in return.
1:12
Speaker 2: Local governments ensure potholes, afield bins are emptied, and nature
1:16
Speaker 2: strips are mode.
1:18
Speaker 3: The task doesn't call for world changes.
1:20
Speaker 2: On the contrary, the job requires people who are prepared
1:23
Speaker 2: to dedicate themselves to ensuring the basic essentials of life
1:27
Speaker 2: get done. Fill holes, empty bins, trim the lawns. It's
1:32
Speaker 2: not sexy, but it's important. Increasingly, though, local government seems
1:36
Speaker 2: to be attracting incredibly mediocre people with equally incredible delusions
1:41
Speaker 2: of grandeur. Local counselor is fast becoming the career of
1:45
Speaker 2: choice for people who boast the talent of Homer Simpson
1:49
Speaker 2: and the ego of Julius Caesar. Take Melbourne's Yara City
1:53
Speaker 2: Council as an example. On Tuesday night, they released an
1:57
Speaker 2: eighty one page climate emergency plan. Why serve in the
2:01
Speaker 2: Melbourne suburbs when you can save the entire planet?
2:04
Speaker 4: Right?
2:05
Speaker 2: The nine Yarra City Council members are recommending that local
2:08
Speaker 2: residents adopt a vegetarian diet. The report says, and I quote,
2:14
Speaker 2: it's widely understood that a shift to plant based diets
2:17
Speaker 2: is critical in responding to the climate emergency.
2:21
Speaker 3: Pity, it's not more.
2:22
Speaker 2: Widely understood that a shift from local politics to guardians
2:26
Speaker 2: of the galaxy is not in the councilor's job description.
2:29
Speaker 3: This is a mob that can.
2:31
Speaker 2: Barely fill a pothole, but now dare to tell you
2:33
Speaker 2: what you can fill your stomach with. As well as
2:36
Speaker 2: demanding local residents for go meet the councilors determined to
2:39
Speaker 2: get them out of cars, the Climate Emergency plan includes
2:43
Speaker 2: a goal to increase the number of people traveling by
2:46
Speaker 2: scooter to twenty percent by twenty twenty seven and forty
2:50
Speaker 2: percent by twenty thirty two.
2:53
Speaker 3: Now, none of.
2:53
Speaker 2: This will make a scrap of difference to the weather,
2:56
Speaker 2: but that's not the point. It's just a lot more
2:58
Speaker 2: fun pretending to say the world by bossing around the
3:01
Speaker 2: people who pay your wage than it is to actually
3:04
Speaker 2: do the things ratepayers pay you to do.
3:07
Speaker 3: And if it really has fallen to the people's.
3:09
Speaker 2: Republic of yarratus save the world from a climate armageddon,
3:13
Speaker 2: well God help us. These guys first declared a climate
3:17
Speaker 2: emergency back in twenty twelve, and they're only just now
3:21
Speaker 2: thinking maybe we.
3:22
Speaker 3: Should use scooters.
3:24
Speaker 2: They're tackling the climate emergency with the same urgency they
3:26
Speaker 2: empty bins, which is to say, not much at all.
3:30
Speaker 2: The climate Emergency plan also pointed out that deforestation was
3:34
Speaker 2: a major problem, which is fascinating since this is a
3:38
Speaker 2: council responsible for Collingwood. Richmond and Fitzroy talk about a
3:43
Speaker 2: misappropriation of taxpayer funds. Speaking of funds, they a council
3:48
Speaker 2: is recommending residents change their superannuation and banking over to
3:52
Speaker 2: companies that avoid investments in fossil fuels. As if you'd
3:56
Speaker 2: take investment advice from this mob. Back in March last
3:59
Speaker 2: year year, the city's council members required security guards to
4:03
Speaker 2: protect them from outraged residents who were furious at being
4:07
Speaker 2: slugged with a bin tax. The council's chief executive, Sue Wilkinson,
4:11
Speaker 2: said the bin levy was required to secure the council's
4:14
Speaker 2: long term financial sustainability. Now, you, like the good people
4:18
Speaker 2: of Yarra might have imagined that rates would cover essentials
4:21
Speaker 2: like the removal of rubbish.
4:23
Speaker 3: Well see, they.
4:24
Speaker 2: Used to, But these days one's rates are more likely
4:27
Speaker 2: to cover the woke adventures of activist councilors. These climate
4:32
Speaker 2: emergency plans don't just pay for.
4:33
Speaker 3: Themselves, you know.
4:35
Speaker 2: And last week the green WOKARATEI occupying City Hall formed
4:39
Speaker 2: a Rainbow Advisory Committee that determined the LGBTQ Pride flag
4:44
Speaker 2: flown atop the city's administration building was insufficiently inclusive, so
4:49
Speaker 2: along with the original Pride flag, council members decided to
4:53
Speaker 2: hoist the Philadelphia Pride Flag, the Pride Progress Flag, and
4:56
Speaker 2: the Intersex Inclusive Pride Flag. But of course that raises
5:00
Speaker 2: the question how to afford all these extra flags and poles? Well,
5:05
Speaker 2: what are rates for if not to fund the politically
5:07
Speaker 2: correct escapades of small men and women who dream of
5:10
Speaker 2: flying big, woke flags. As for the bins, well they
5:13
Speaker 2: can empty themselves. Don't worry about the stench of uncollected garbage.
5:18
Speaker 3: See how the.
5:18
Speaker 2: Rainbow flags fly so much diversity, so much inclusion. You
5:22
Speaker 2: can pay a levee to have your rubbish removed if
5:24
Speaker 2: it really bothers you. It gets even sillier. Back in
5:27
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, a week after Valentine's Day, the Yarra
5:31
Speaker 2: City Council decided to fly an a romantic flag in
5:34
Speaker 2: honor of all those who experience no romantic attractions. If
5:39
Speaker 2: you're not romantically attracted to anyone your a council hears
5:42
Speaker 2: you and sees you and believes you. And in twenty nineteen,
5:47
Speaker 2: the council insisted on flying an anti nuclear flag to
5:50
Speaker 2: mark the anniversary of the nineteen forty five bombing of Hiroshima.
5:56
Speaker 2: Next time you vote at a local government election, be
5:59
Speaker 2: sure to ask candidate it's their flag policy, because you
6:02
Speaker 2: can almost be certain they've put a lot more thought
6:04
Speaker 2: into that than they have your bins. I wish it
6:07
Speaker 2: were only you're a council that was completely derelict in
6:10
Speaker 2: its duty. But like I said, councils right around Australia
6:14
Speaker 2: are now sheltered workshops for people with tiny mines and
6:17
Speaker 2: grandiose visions. Gold Coast Council may have blown it with
6:21
Speaker 2: two million dollars spent on a motorway sign. Last year,
6:26
Speaker 2: the Gold Coast City Council blew two million dollars on
6:29
Speaker 2: ninety seven yellow and gray light poles along the M
6:32
Speaker 2: one motorway that, when lit up, was supposed to spell
6:35
Speaker 2: Gold Coast, except that as motorists flew past the poles
6:39
Speaker 2: at one hundred kilometers an hour, well the sign was
6:42
Speaker 2: completely unintelligible. The ninety seven poles quickly became a landmark
6:46
Speaker 2: for Hoon's doing burnouts on the highway, leading police to
6:50
Speaker 2: demand council turn the lights off at weekends. So that
6:54
Speaker 2: meant the only way to appreciate the alone understand the
6:57
Speaker 2: two million dollar sign was to stand away off to
7:00
Speaker 2: the side of the highway in a paddock in the
7:01
Speaker 2: dead of night, but not on weekends. You have to
7:05
Speaker 2: wonder if the Gold Coast residents were even ambitious for
7:07
Speaker 2: a two million dollar sign on the Yatla Highway welcoming
7:10
Speaker 2: drivers from Brisbane or was the sign just another expensive
7:14
Speaker 2: exercise in local government self pleasuring, funded by ratepayers who
7:18
Speaker 2: were simply hoping for fewer potholes and someone with a
7:21
Speaker 2: whipper snipper to cut the grass.
7:24
Speaker 3: Now, if the City of Sydney Lord Mayor.
7:26
Speaker 2: Clover Moore was running the Gold Coast well, she would
7:29
Speaker 2: have reduced the M one speed limit to forty kilometers
7:32
Speaker 2: an hour, making the sign visible.
7:34
Speaker 3: Throw in a couple of Yarra councilors.
7:36
Speaker 2: To ensure people could only move between Brisbane and the
7:39
Speaker 2: Gold Coast on scooters while waving Pride flags and tut
7:42
Speaker 2: tutting Hamburgers, and you'd pretty much have the perfect city
7:46
Speaker 2: City of Yarra City of Sydney, City of Gold Coast.
7:49
Speaker 3: Just name them all, La la Land.
7:55
Speaker 2: Well, let's head to Canberra now for tonight's political headlines
7:58
Speaker 2: with Sky News Political Report.
8:00
Speaker 5: Jrudy Macintosh, the Prime Minister in campaign mode in Queensland,
8:04
Speaker 5: announcing more candidates. Is it a sign we're headed for
8:08
Speaker 5: an early election?
8:09
Speaker 6: The election will be when I call it, when I
8:10
Speaker 6: go to the Governor General. So if you follow me
8:12
Speaker 6: around or one day between Monday and Sunday of one
8:19
Speaker 6: week between now and next May, you'll see me go
8:22
Speaker 6: off to Yarralama.
8:24
Speaker 5: No mention today of going full term. Anthony Albernezi introduced
8:28
Speaker 5: Rebecca hack as Labour's pick in the seat of Ryan.
8:30
Speaker 5: The Greens flipped the leafy Brisbane electorate from the Liberals
8:33
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty two.
8:35
Speaker 6: Many Queen Xanders who voted for the Greens political party
8:39
Speaker 6: are telling me that they're disappointed.
8:42
Speaker 5: Also sharpening his attack on the coalition's nuclear plan.
8:46
Speaker 6: I don't have see people walking through the streets of
8:49
Speaker 6: Brisbane saying, what do we want a nuclear reactor? When
8:52
Speaker 6: do we want it now?
8:53
Speaker 3: Tomorrow?
8:53
Speaker 5: He'll make that message in Peter Dutton's seat of Dixon.
8:56
Speaker 5: It's just one of the seats in Labour sites in
8:59
Speaker 5: the Sunshine State today, also targeting Ford, Labour last one
9:03
Speaker 5: here in the rud wave of two thousand and seven.
9:06
Speaker 5: But the PM believes it's back in play, pointing to
9:09
Speaker 5: the rematch between sitting MP Bert van Mannin and Labour's
9:12
Speaker 5: Rowan Holsberger, and the Prime Minister weighs into Joe Biden's
9:16
Speaker 5: performance as Democrats continue to call for the President to
9:19
Speaker 5: drop out of the race.
9:20
Speaker 6: My interaction with Joe Biden has been extremely productive. I
9:25
Speaker 6: have a great deally respect for the President.
9:27
Speaker 5: Richard Marles has had a front row seat for the
9:29
Speaker 5: drama at the White House for NATO talks as Allies
9:32
Speaker 5: agreed to provide more drone power to Ukraine.
9:35
Speaker 3: And we're all neighbors because we're there for one another
9:40
Speaker 3: when a neighbor needed help. You're pitched in.
9:42
Speaker 5: Trudy Macintosh, Sky News Canberra.
9:46
Speaker 2: Okay, well, let's welcome our Thursday regulars for their take
9:49
Speaker 2: on today's big stories. Media writer for The Australian Sophie
9:52
Speaker 2: Ellsworth and Deputy Executive Director of the Institute of Public
9:56
Speaker 2: Affairs Daniel Wilde.
9:57
Speaker 3: Welcome to you both.
9:59
Speaker 2: Now, while since most of us have give given Malcolm
10:02
Speaker 2: Turnbull a second thought, but he made it back into
10:05
Speaker 2: the headlines this week, appearing on The Project of Course,
10:09
Speaker 2: where he called Peter Dutton a thug. Today, Dutton responded
10:12
Speaker 2: to that attack while speaking with Ray Hadley.
10:16
Speaker 7: He's a thug and Peter's got one tune that he plays.
10:21
Speaker 8: I mean that's been to all his political life, and
10:24
Speaker 8: that is division and animosity.
10:26
Speaker 9: That he could have come up with something much more
10:27
Speaker 9: sophisticated than that. But anyway, Malcolm's got an act to grind.
10:33
Speaker 9: I think it's sad and I think for the former
10:35
Speaker 9: leader of our party, when you diminish yourself in this way,
10:39
Speaker 9: I just don't think it helps his legacy.
10:42
Speaker 2: Sophie, there's an old expression, never wrestle with a pig,
10:44
Speaker 2: because you'll both get dirty. But the pig likes it,
10:47
Speaker 2: and I reckon Dutton might have heeded that wisdom in
10:50
Speaker 2: showing a fair bit of.
10:50
Speaker 3: Restraint in his response.
10:52
Speaker 2: But let me ask you this, what on earth is
10:55
Speaker 2: wrong with Malcolm Turnbull?
10:58
Speaker 3: Well, what is wrong with mel Turnbull?
11:00
Speaker 8: I believe James is he's a bitter man. He's never
11:04
Speaker 8: gotten over the fact that he was booted out of
11:07
Speaker 8: the prime ministership. He still is struggling to come to
11:10
Speaker 8: terms with that. And it's really quite a sad state
11:13
Speaker 8: of affairs. When a former prime minister feels the need
11:17
Speaker 8: to go on the project and bag the living daylights
11:20
Speaker 8: out of the opposition leader. I think he just does
11:23
Speaker 8: himself incredible harm. And I think mister Dutton was dignified
11:28
Speaker 8: on two GB Radio today. He didn't stoop down to
11:31
Speaker 8: Malcolm Turnbull's extremely low level. I suggest that Malcolm Turnbill
11:37
Speaker 8: go and get a hobby or do something worthwhile because
11:39
Speaker 8: he's got Peter Dutton living in his head. Rent free.
11:44
Speaker 2: Let me quick you ask Let me quickly ask you
11:46
Speaker 2: this question, Sophie, who's done worse Fatima payment to the
11:49
Speaker 2: Labor Party or Malcolm Turnbull to the Liberal Party.
11:54
Speaker 8: Well, I would say Malcolm Turnbull because he's been doing
11:57
Speaker 8: this attacking of the coalition four years.
12:01
Speaker 3: This isn't just a short term thing.
12:03
Speaker 8: This isn't a new thing that he's decided to tackle.
12:07
Speaker 8: He's been bitter for years on end. Now, I mean
12:11
Speaker 8: you'll often turn into Listen R and Radio Breakfast on
12:15
Speaker 8: ABC and there is Malcolm Turnbull on speed doal bagging
12:20
Speaker 8: the Coalition, he pops up in outlets that are very
12:24
Speaker 8: friendly to him and give him the oxygen that he
12:26
Speaker 8: wants to really do himself absolutely no credibility, no favors,
12:32
Speaker 8: and damage his own credibility. So I think he's doing
12:34
Speaker 8: himself unnecessary harm and destroying any legacy that he did
12:39
Speaker 8: have left as being Prime Minister.
12:41
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and yet Fatima Payment is now out of the
12:44
Speaker 2: Labor Party, but Malcolm Turnbull is still in the Liberal Party.
12:46
Speaker 2: I spoke in my editorial about Australia's Workist Council, Yar,
12:50
Speaker 2: a city council which, as I said, has passed its
12:52
Speaker 2: climate emergency plan calling on residents to become vegetarians. But Daniel,
12:58
Speaker 2: just before I went to air, it's been revealed that
13:00
Speaker 2: the council has been serving roast beef to executives and
13:04
Speaker 2: council members before their monthly meetings, including get this, the
13:08
Speaker 2: meeting where they voted to enact this climate emergency plan,
13:12
Speaker 2: telling everyone we've got to go vegetarian.
13:14
Speaker 3: They served roast beef right before that meeting.
13:19
Speaker 1: Well, James, just another example. It's one rule for me
13:22
Speaker 1: and another for the That's how these inner city elites operate,
13:25
Speaker 1: isn't it. You know, they go off and they're on
13:26
Speaker 1: the gravy train for life, and they want to impose
13:29
Speaker 1: all of these rules and social controls on everybody else.
13:32
Speaker 1: I agree with you, it's probably the Workers Council in
13:35
Speaker 1: the nation. But I've got to tell you it's a
13:36
Speaker 1: pretty tight contest between Melbourne City Council and a couple
13:39
Speaker 1: of others around here.
13:41
Speaker 9: So you know.
13:42
Speaker 1: The other point to make here is I just think
13:44
Speaker 1: you know, Australians more generally have had a gut full
13:46
Speaker 1: of the division you rightly pointed out in your editorial.
13:49
Speaker 1: They spend more time talking about flags and you know,
13:51
Speaker 1: other social issues than actually dealing with genuine problems on
13:54
Speaker 1: the ground. Roads, raids and rates and rubbish should be
13:58
Speaker 1: what local councils are focused on, but they just think
14:00
Speaker 1: age in this endless hypocritical as you've identified a social
14:04
Speaker 1: policy and cultural division, and I think even the local
14:06
Speaker 1: residents in yarraw who are more to the left are
14:08
Speaker 1: just fed up with this.
14:10
Speaker 2: Daniel, Can I just say I mentioned they were serving
14:12
Speaker 2: roast beef and you talked about the gravy train.
14:14
Speaker 3: That was very good.
14:15
Speaker 2: I just want to let you know I noticed that
14:17
Speaker 2: and I inwardly applauded. Hey, more bad news for Joe
14:21
Speaker 2: Biden today, with Hollywood heavyweight and major Democratic Party donor
14:24
Speaker 2: George Clooney calling for the president to drop out of
14:27
Speaker 2: the race. In an op ed for The New York Times,
14:30
Speaker 2: Clooney wrote, I love Joe Biden as a senator, as
14:33
Speaker 2: a vice president and as president. I consider him a friend.
14:37
Speaker 2: But one battle he cannot win is the fight against time.
14:40
Speaker 2: We're not going to win in November with this president.
14:43
Speaker 3: Now.
14:43
Speaker 2: By the way, it was only three weeks ago that
14:45
Speaker 2: George Clooney fronted a fundraiser that raised thirty million dollars
14:49
Speaker 2: for Biden's reelection. Now he says Biden's too old. Ocean's thirteen,
14:54
Speaker 2: to be honest, was more believable. Sophie, Biden is adamant
14:57
Speaker 2: he's staying in the race. But you've now got Chuck
15:00
Speaker 2: Schumer saying he's open to another presidential candidate. You've got
15:03
Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi refusing to support Biden unequivocally. Let me ask
15:10
Speaker 2: you this, Biden is obviously a problem, but is it
15:13
Speaker 2: almost becoming now the uncertainty around who the candidate will
15:17
Speaker 2: be that could be the biggest problem for the Democrats, Well, I.
15:22
Speaker 8: Think the biggest problem for them is that Joe Biden
15:25
Speaker 8: isn't going anywhere. He's digging his heels in deeper by
15:29
Speaker 8: the day, and he's made it abundantly clear that he
15:33
Speaker 8: is not going to go out of this presidential race
15:38
Speaker 8: without some kicking and screaming. So I think that is
15:41
Speaker 8: the problem He's trying to move him on because he's
15:44
Speaker 8: made it clear that he won't be doing that. But look,
15:47
Speaker 8: George Clooney, has he been asleep at the wheel? I
15:50
Speaker 8: mean three weeks ago you were saying, you know, at
15:52
Speaker 8: this fundraiser, and that's been reported he was fronting this fundraiser.
15:57
Speaker 8: Oh well, he's suddenly had a moment where he's woke
16:00
Speaker 8: up and gone, oh, Joe Biden's actually not very in
16:02
Speaker 8: good shape, and oh you know.
16:04
Speaker 3: This isn't good.
16:05
Speaker 8: Well, hello, where has he been for the last few years?
16:08
Speaker 8: Where Joe Biden has been making an absolute fool of
16:11
Speaker 8: himself and James I do think it's a sad state
16:14
Speaker 8: of affairs. I feel like this is a case of
16:16
Speaker 8: elder abuse. Joe Biden has got people they're telling him.
16:20
Speaker 3: To go along, you know, push through.
16:22
Speaker 8: Clearly is not up to the job. He does need
16:25
Speaker 8: to move on, but he won't be doing that willingly.
16:28
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
16:29
Speaker 2: And as for George Cloudey, I mean his stock in
16:30
Speaker 2: trade is make believe right, so it all fits hey.
16:34
Speaker 2: As Victoria battles skyrocketing debt, the Allen government is facing
16:39
Speaker 2: major cost blowouts again surprise, across more than one hundred
16:43
Speaker 2: office refurbishments, school upgrades and transport projects. The Herald Sun
16:48
Speaker 2: reports that Victorian taxpayers have forked out more than three
16:51
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars just to top up funding for capital
16:55
Speaker 2: works contracts. And there are some incredible examples, Daniel, one
16:59
Speaker 2: of which one hundred and ten thousand dollars allocated for
17:02
Speaker 2: window and door restorations on the treasury reserves has blown
17:07
Speaker 2: out to more than three million dollars. What on earth
17:10
Speaker 2: is going on in the state of Victoria. This just
17:13
Speaker 2: keeps happening, James.
17:16
Speaker 1: They can't even clean the windows on time and on budget.
17:19
Speaker 1: And this is what happens when you have woke idea
17:22
Speaker 1: logs running a state. They can't manage money, they can't
17:25
Speaker 1: manage the economy.
17:26
Speaker 3: How on earth are they.
17:27
Speaker 1: Going to deliver these multi billion dollar infrastructure projects. You've
17:31
Speaker 1: got the two hundred billion dollar suburban railroop that no
17:33
Speaker 1: one wants and that no one's going to use, while
17:35
Speaker 1: they terminate useful projects like the Airport Link that will
17:38
Speaker 1: actually have some economic value to the state. And this
17:41
Speaker 1: is just another example of why Victoria is Australia's economic
17:45
Speaker 1: basket case. It's the worst performing state by a long way.
17:49
Speaker 1: It's got businesses that are fleeing the state in droves
17:51
Speaker 1: because of the taxes and the debt and the regulation
17:54
Speaker 1: and spending. And it's not just Victorians that will pay James.
17:57
Speaker 1: Wherever you are in Australia right now, you are going
17:59
Speaker 1: to be paying for the mismanagement of Victoria because when
18:03
Speaker 1: Victoria goes down, every single Australian taxpayer will have to
18:07
Speaker 1: bail out Victoria because they're running out of money and
18:10
Speaker 1: there is absolutely no plan for how to fix this state.
18:14
Speaker 3: Absolutely all right.
18:15
Speaker 2: On this next topic, I just want to get a
18:17
Speaker 2: short quick take from both of you. Sid Sydney Lord
18:21
Speaker 2: Mayor Clover Moore is in hot water over her plans
18:24
Speaker 2: to slash speed limits in and around the Sydney CBD
18:27
Speaker 2: to forty kilometers an hour now. She says reducing speed
18:30
Speaker 2: limits will reduce the number of crashes and their severity,
18:35
Speaker 2: improving safety for people walking and riding. Surprise, surprise, they
18:39
Speaker 2: seem to be the priority these days on our roads.
18:42
Speaker 2: For business, leaders, Road Freight, New South Wales and even
18:45
Speaker 2: the NRMA have criticized the plan. Sophie, I'm sure you're
18:49
Speaker 2: a leadfoot. What do you think forty kilometer in our
18:52
Speaker 2: speed limits?
18:52
Speaker 3: Should we just do that everywhere? Everyone would be safe?
18:57
Speaker 8: Well, James, they're making the cbdsarticularly here in Melbourne, unlivable.
19:01
Speaker 8: People don't want to drive into them. It's not car friendly.
19:05
Speaker 3: You're probably better off.
19:06
Speaker 8: Just walking around because it's quicker to get around on
19:08
Speaker 8: foot than on four wheels. So I think all she's
19:11
Speaker 8: going to do is encourage people to not come into
19:15
Speaker 8: the city.
19:16
Speaker 2: Daniel, what's your take on this? Do you like forty
19:18
Speaker 2: kilometer oil speed limits? You're a man of safety and caring,
19:21
Speaker 2: don't life guns.
19:24
Speaker 1: I don't like it at all because this is not
19:26
Speaker 1: about safety. This is about clover More getting a congestion tax.
19:30
Speaker 1: She has been talking about a congestion tax since two
19:32
Speaker 1: thousand and seven and this is just salami slicing their
19:36
Speaker 1: way to taxing Australians for the privilege of accessing their
19:40
Speaker 1: own city to compensate for their own mismanagement, their incapacity
19:44
Speaker 1: to plan for this massive surge in migration which is
19:46
Speaker 1: causing the congestion, And exactly as Sophie said, every single
19:50
Speaker 1: step of the way, these councils are making it harder
19:53
Speaker 1: and harder for mainstream Australians to use and enjoy their
19:56
Speaker 1: own cities.
19:57
Speaker 2: Well, I think you've absolutely nailed it, Sophie Daniel. Thanks
20:01
Speaker 2: so much to both of you for your time this evening.
20:05
Speaker 3: Well, I want to talk.
20:06
Speaker 2: About a labor draft plan for their new green ratings system,
20:12
Speaker 2: which is designed to encourage investments to help them achieve
20:15
Speaker 2: their climate goals.
20:17
Speaker 3: But of course this new draft.
20:18
Speaker 2: Plan snubs gas as a sustainable investment, instead listing it
20:24
Speaker 2: as a phase down sector. So it was just a
20:28
Speaker 2: month ago that Albaneze's own Resources Minister, Madeline King quite
20:32
Speaker 2: sensibly said gas would have to be part of Labour's
20:35
Speaker 2: energy transition, and yet today we learn it's being phased down.
20:39
Speaker 3: So which is it.
20:41
Speaker 2: Well, if you are hoping the PM could clear things up,
20:44
Speaker 2: you would be sadly mistaken.
20:46
Speaker 6: If you've heard of that framework before today, I'd be surprised.
20:51
Speaker 6: What we have is a I would be surprised. Perhaps
20:54
Speaker 6: I'm wrong and you have. Well, what we've announced is
20:58
Speaker 6: a future gas strategy. We think that gas has an
21:02
Speaker 6: important role to play in firming capacity for renewables.
21:07
Speaker 2: Well, thank god, we're only talking about our energy supply
21:10
Speaker 2: and not something serious. Joining me now is the director
21:13
Speaker 2: of Energy Research at the Center for Independent Studies, Aiden Morrison. Aiden,
21:17
Speaker 2: thanks for your time tonight. What do you make of
21:20
Speaker 2: this draft framework that seems to really downplay gas for
21:25
Speaker 2: our future energy requirements?
21:30
Speaker 10: Yes, I don't make a lot of it. It's quite surprising. Actually,
21:33
Speaker 10: this is a traffic light system, if you like, a
21:36
Speaker 10: rating system to try to kind of direct more people
21:39
Speaker 10: to put their money in things that the government things
21:41
Speaker 10: will help them achieve their climate goals. So they're hoping
21:44
Speaker 10: that the government that private sector will follow their directions
21:48
Speaker 10: and rush a whole munch more money into things that
21:51
Speaker 10: will help them reach net zero. But the thing is
21:53
Speaker 10: that actually quite a lot of gas investment is required
21:56
Speaker 10: for that, and in fact, the integrated system plan the
21:58
Speaker 10: Market Operator published just a couple of weeks ago, shows
22:01
Speaker 10: that we need to double double the amount of gas
22:04
Speaker 10: firming capacity that's installed in our grid, and we're going
22:07
Speaker 10: to use it very intermittently, only a tiny bit. So
22:10
Speaker 10: this is one of these areas where it's hard for
22:12
Speaker 10: businesses to invest in this because it's used so infrequently,
22:15
Speaker 10: but we need a lot of it. So you'd be
22:16
Speaker 10: thinking they'd be trying to give a bit of a
22:17
Speaker 10: green light to this. They haven't even given an amber.
22:20
Speaker 10: They've put it in the down and out category, which
22:22
Speaker 10: will make it very hard for that critical firming capacity
22:25
Speaker 10: to be brought online.
22:26
Speaker 3: Yeah.
22:27
Speaker 2: I was speaking with a guest the other night who
22:29
Speaker 2: said that the constant interventions we're seeing in the energy
22:32
Speaker 2: market from the government has directly led to our energy mess.
22:36
Speaker 2: So I want to ask you, is this just another
22:38
Speaker 2: example of that. I mean, it seems the more the
22:40
Speaker 2: government metal in this sector, the worse it gets, the
22:43
Speaker 2: more confusing it becomes.
22:48
Speaker 10: Well, look, I think it is another example, but I
22:49
Speaker 10: have to say this is the lightest touch compared to
22:52
Speaker 10: all the other interventions they've done in the energy sector.
22:56
Speaker 10: This is initially, at least just a voluntary codes. They're
22:59
Speaker 10: really just hoping that the market sort of responds the
23:01
Speaker 10: way they wish them to. But compared to the other
23:04
Speaker 10: things they're doing in other parts of the sector. For example,
23:07
Speaker 10: they have basically forced all transmission to assume that the
23:10
Speaker 10: eighty two percent renewables energy target is reached. There's no
23:13
Speaker 10: chance at all that it will be reached, but that
23:15
Speaker 10: means we'll overinvest in a lot of transmission. And also
23:18
Speaker 10: the government has opened the checkbook in the Capacity Investment scheme,
23:21
Speaker 10: literally in an open ended subsidy where they're saying to
23:24
Speaker 10: other companies, tell us what you need us to pay
23:26
Speaker 10: you to assure you for you to build this renewable energy,
23:29
Speaker 10: and offering to fund the difference and underwrite that difference.
23:32
Speaker 10: So this is a very very light touch. I think
23:34
Speaker 10: it's quite hopeful that just the market will solve some
23:36
Speaker 10: of these problems, but the reality is that the market
23:39
Speaker 10: doesn't have the solutions for pushing things uphill. Economically, renewables
23:43
Speaker 10: don't add up so easily, and the cost of all
23:46
Speaker 10: this firming supply is very expensive because it's used so infrequently.
23:49
Speaker 10: So I think this is a light intervention so far,
23:52
Speaker 10: but my word, the other interventions have had a really
23:54
Speaker 10: big impact.
23:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good aident. Thanks for being with me tonight.
23:58
Speaker 2: Well, coming up for jimber Price's alternate vision for closing
24:02
Speaker 2: the gap with Indigenous Australians is gaining support. Warren Mundine
24:07
Speaker 2: with his thoughts soon. Plus, with crime dominating the upcoming
24:10
Speaker 2: Queensland election, we'll check in with someone who actually knows
24:14
Speaker 2: what's happening on the coal face and has some thoughts
24:16
Speaker 2: on what needs to be done to stamp out youth crime.
24:19
Speaker 3: All of that in just a moment. Welcome back.
24:25
Speaker 2: Still to come new information about who's behind the Muslim
24:28
Speaker 2: vote movement and why labor should be concerned. But first
24:32
Speaker 2: let's go up to Queensland, where the youth crime crisis
24:35
Speaker 2: shows no sign of abating, with the juvenile crime rate
24:38
Speaker 2: rising by six percent last year. Now that might not
24:42
Speaker 2: sound like much, but let me put it into perspective
24:45
Speaker 2: for you. Juveniles were responsible for over ten thousand unlawful entries,
24:51
Speaker 2: seven thousand instances of unlawful use of a motor vehicle,
24:55
Speaker 2: four thousand plus assault offenses, fourteen hundred robberies and a murders.
25:01
Speaker 2: And what's perhaps most alarming is that violent offenses make
25:05
Speaker 2: up twenty three percent of youth crime, which is why
25:08
Speaker 2: the LNP is proposing that young offenders could be tried
25:12
Speaker 2: as adults for serious crimes.
25:15
Speaker 3: So I want to bring in someone at the.
25:16
Speaker 2: Cull face of this crisis, Queensland Police Union president Ian
25:20
Speaker 2: levers Ian.
25:21
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining me. First off, I wanted to ask
25:24
Speaker 3: you what do you make.
25:25
Speaker 2: Of the LNP plan Adult crime Adult time is what
25:29
Speaker 2: they're calling it.
25:30
Speaker 3: What are your.
25:30
Speaker 11: Thoughts We've I've been very supportive of this for a
25:35
Speaker 11: long time. I think very serious crimes need to be
25:38
Speaker 11: dealt with very harshly.
25:39
Speaker 3: But I do share the.
25:40
Speaker 11: Same views as just Enterprice on this issue.
25:42
Speaker 3: We've got to deal with it harshly.
25:44
Speaker 11: These violent and serious crimes people need to get serious
25:47
Speaker 11: time for that, so that is really important we do that.
25:50
Speaker 11: But that is what we need to do to fix
25:52
Speaker 11: it here and now. But what we need to do
25:54
Speaker 11: as we move into the future. We need another three
25:56
Speaker 11: hundred child safety workers, another two thousand polaes is so
26:00
Speaker 11: we can have high visibility and we can actually look
26:03
Speaker 11: at intervention methods because we cannot continue upon the trajectory
26:07
Speaker 11: that we're currently on. We have to change things and
26:09
Speaker 11: break the cycle.
26:10
Speaker 4: For the future.
26:11
Speaker 11: And the next issue I've got is, and I've said
26:14
Speaker 11: the opposition, very good ideas but unless you do something
26:18
Speaker 11: with the judiciary, this is set to fire. We need
26:21
Speaker 11: auditial Complaints Commission because the judges are simply out of touch.
26:25
Speaker 11: They live in inner city areas, wealth in wealthy places.
26:30
Speaker 11: They have no idea or what is happening around Queensland
26:35
Speaker 11: and they just simply don't get it. And I'll say this,
26:38
Speaker 11: if they're not doing their job, they need to be
26:40
Speaker 11: out and out of their job. It's the only occupation
26:43
Speaker 11: where you get a job for life and your age
26:45
Speaker 11: retire at seventy. They are out of touch. If they
26:47
Speaker 11: can't do their job, they need to be dealt with
26:50
Speaker 11: because they are leading letting us down. And in the
26:52
Speaker 11: cafe matter, that was a terrible crime when they were
26:55
Speaker 11: breaking into a house in the nighttime, armed and they
26:58
Speaker 11: are prepared to kill people and to get a no
27:00
Speaker 11: conviction recorded. That simply isn't good enough. And I've been
27:03
Speaker 11: questioned on this, and if you were to talk to
27:05
Speaker 11: people from Cairns down to the Gold Coast as you
27:08
Speaker 11: go out West Townsville, kibultra Ipswich, they'll share the same
27:12
Speaker 11: view as me. Serious clients like that deserve serious time.
27:16
Speaker 2: I lived in Queensland for many years I've got family
27:19
Speaker 2: and a lot of friends there, and doesn't matter where
27:21
Speaker 2: you go, as you said, from Cans to the Gold Coast,
27:23
Speaker 2: I know people right through there. Everyone is frustrated about
27:28
Speaker 2: crime and youth crime. But talk to me about police morale,
27:31
Speaker 2: because I can't imagine that police are terribly excited or
27:36
Speaker 2: happy with the way things are going. It must be
27:38
Speaker 2: incredibly frustrating to seem like they're arresting young people who
27:42
Speaker 2: are then put back out on the streets only to
27:45
Speaker 2: recommit offenses all over again. What's this doing to police
27:48
Speaker 2: morale and indeed to police recruitment? You said we need
27:51
Speaker 2: another two thousand police who'd sign up to be a
27:54
Speaker 2: police officer in Queensland right now.
27:58
Speaker 11: That's a very good point. Police are really struggling with this.
28:01
Speaker 11: They're doing the best they can and just being in tonsill.
28:04
Speaker 11: One positive thing I can say, the people are tanswill
28:07
Speaker 11: back the police one hundred percent. They certainly don't back
28:10
Speaker 11: the judiciary. I can tell you that that's a definite
28:12
Speaker 11: up there.
28:13
Speaker 3: But it is really hard.
28:14
Speaker 11: We are doing our job, we are taking people off
28:16
Speaker 11: the streets, we are putting them before the court. But
28:18
Speaker 11: when they get a slap on the wrist for very
28:21
Speaker 11: serious crimes and they are released. Police are the ones
28:23
Speaker 11: who are dealing with the victims day in, day out,
28:26
Speaker 11: and that takes a toll on police and they've simply
28:29
Speaker 11: had enough. And the complaint wherever I go right across
28:32
Speaker 11: Queensland is the judiciary who are out of touch and
28:35
Speaker 11: who are out of step with the average Queenslander.
28:38
Speaker 3: So it's tough in policing and who are doing the best.
28:41
Speaker 3: But this year is if.
28:42
Speaker 11: Police don't do their job, they're disciplined the judiciary they
28:45
Speaker 11: are not held to account. So we've got to tackle
28:47
Speaker 11: the judiciary and I've said that to the Opposition leader.
28:50
Speaker 11: We've got to go hard and actually do a job
28:52
Speaker 11: and not have a Digital Complaints Commission which is staffed
28:55
Speaker 11: by retired judges. It's got to be others who actually
28:58
Speaker 11: get it and understand what's happening at the coal face.
29:01
Speaker 11: But it's tough for police. But one thing we'll do
29:03
Speaker 11: is please regardless even if we're let down by others,
29:06
Speaker 11: we're going to continue to do the best job we
29:09
Speaker 11: possibly can to try and make Queensland as safe as
29:11
Speaker 11: we possibly can. So it's frustrating. We are in a
29:14
Speaker 11: recruiting crisis. But it is a good job. But we
29:17
Speaker 11: need other departments to do their job, which includes child safety.
29:21
Speaker 11: We need intervention and we need the judiciary to do
29:23
Speaker 11: their job. And if they can't, well it's time they
29:25
Speaker 11: moved on.
29:26
Speaker 2: Ian Leavers, appreciate your time tonight. Well let's talk about
29:30
Speaker 2: the political movement that certainly gained a tension in recent weeks.
29:34
Speaker 2: The Muslim Vote has emerged as a lobby group seeking
29:37
Speaker 2: justice for perceived war crimes in Palestine while seeking to
29:41
Speaker 2: oust sitting members of Parliament from Western Sydney seats.
29:45
Speaker 3: Little's been known.
29:46
Speaker 2: About the backers of the cause until today, when The
29:49
Speaker 2: Daily Telegraphs John Roff revealed that the man officially at
29:53
Speaker 2: the wheel of this new Islamic political movement is Mohammed
29:56
Speaker 2: Khanan from Canterbury and pleased to say John Roff joined
30:00
Speaker 2: me now, John, thanks for your time. We know Carnan
30:03
Speaker 2: is the sole director of the Muslim Vote Proprietary Limited,
30:07
Speaker 2: but what else did you uncover about him and this organization?
30:13
Speaker 12: So good to be talking to you, James. It's very interesting.
30:16
Speaker 12: It's all brands banking news. So in the days before
30:22
Speaker 12: we had Fatima payment resigning from the ALP. In the background,
30:27
Speaker 12: the Muslim Vote was establishing the corporate structures it needs
30:30
Speaker 12: going forward if it's to become a political force in Australia.
30:36
Speaker 12: It filed its paperwork to become a corporation on July one,
30:41
Speaker 12: and in the month before that there was another company
30:44
Speaker 12: that was established called Community two hundred, which I suspect
30:48
Speaker 12: will be the fundraising division of the structure behind the
30:53
Speaker 12: Muslim Vote if it becomes a political party, And that's
30:57
Speaker 12: a very interesting title that they've chosen. They're certainly putting
31:00
Speaker 12: in place all of the structures necessary to have a
31:03
Speaker 12: very very serious crack at the Albanezi government in Western Sydney.
31:08
Speaker 3: I've got to pick you up on something you just said.
31:10
Speaker 2: You mentioned that all of this was taking place while
31:14
Speaker 2: the Fatima payment situation in labor was.
31:18
Speaker 3: Coming out. Are the two connected.
31:22
Speaker 4: Well?
31:22
Speaker 12: On the website the Muslim Vote dot com dot au,
31:26
Speaker 12: there's a lot of people that they say that they
31:28
Speaker 12: don't like government ministers like Tony Burke and Jason Clare.
31:34
Speaker 12: The one person they do like is Fatima payment. So
31:37
Speaker 12: whilst they haven't announced any candidates so far, they have
31:40
Speaker 12: said that they would be throwing their support, not financial,
31:44
Speaker 12: but more so their muscle at the ballot box behind
31:47
Speaker 12: Fatima payment. But of course Fatima payment isn't up for
31:50
Speaker 12: reelection the next time we go to the ballot She's
31:53
Speaker 12: got another three years. So exactly what they mean by
31:56
Speaker 12: that and how that will play out is unclear. There
31:59
Speaker 12: is yet no formal Lincoln. I'm not suggesting there is
32:01
Speaker 12: between that of a payment. She certainly said that she's
32:03
Speaker 12: not about to establish a Muslim party.
32:06
Speaker 2: This whole situation has hallmarks of the Teals campaign, as
32:10
Speaker 2: you mentioned from a few years ago, and in your
32:12
Speaker 2: article in the Telegraph you wrote, it's more than similarity,
32:16
Speaker 2: it's mimicry.
32:18
Speaker 12: Precisely so the gentleman that we featured on the front
32:22
Speaker 12: page today, Muhammad Khanan, He's not just the sole director
32:26
Speaker 12: of the Muslim Vote Prietary Limited. He's also the person
32:31
Speaker 12: behind a company called Community two hundred.
32:35
Speaker 3: Now, those who.
32:36
Speaker 12: Are familiar with the Teals movement know that it was
32:39
Speaker 12: heavily funded by Simon Holmes, the Court's Climate two hundred
32:43
Speaker 12: Proprietary Limited. It in turn took its name from Kuyong
32:47
Speaker 12: two hundred, which was Josh Freedenberg's fundraising entity which Simon
32:52
Speaker 12: and Holmes of Court was a big part of until
32:55
Speaker 12: he and Freedenberg fell out after Homes of Court wrote
33:00
Speaker 12: a piece saying that he thought it was a good
33:01
Speaker 12: idea that Liddell was shutting down. He got booted out
33:04
Speaker 12: and in the end he was instrumental then seeing Josh
33:07
Speaker 12: Freidenberg booted out of Parliament. So when I say mimicry,
33:10
Speaker 12: they're actually literally taking the name that the teal's main
33:15
Speaker 12: fundraising source used so effectively in the last election, in fact,
33:19
Speaker 12: funneled nearly six million dollars into those candidates who now
33:22
Speaker 12: sit in the Lower House.
33:23
Speaker 2: John The other interesting parallel here is we saw an
33:27
Speaker 2: organization with the same name. I believe in the UK
33:30
Speaker 2: I have a huge influence there the Muslim vote. Is
33:33
Speaker 2: this just a coincidence of timing or is there a
33:36
Speaker 2: connection between what's happened in the UK and what's being
33:39
Speaker 2: set up here in Australia.
33:42
Speaker 12: Well, I haven't found any formal ties between the two,
33:45
Speaker 12: but yes, as you say, they use the same name
33:48
Speaker 12: and they have the same modus operandi, which is to
33:52
Speaker 12: get people to vote strategically on a single issue, which
33:55
Speaker 12: is of course what we saw the last time round
33:57
Speaker 12: with the Teals as well, and that was hugely effective
34:00
Speaker 12: in the UK, and the Muslim Vote UK is claiming
34:04
Speaker 12: that it got rid of five Labor MPs in its campaigning,
34:11
Speaker 12: so we certainly are seeing similar numbers being predicted in
34:14
Speaker 12: Western Sydney and Melbourne. If the Muslim Vote can find
34:18
Speaker 12: candidates who can resonate bring down the Labor vote to
34:23
Speaker 12: a point where through preference deals with Greens and even
34:26
Speaker 12: potentially the Liberals, they might be able to leap frog
34:28
Speaker 12: in much the same way as the Teals did last
34:30
Speaker 12: time around.
34:31
Speaker 2: So so any indication you mentioned if they can find candidates,
34:34
Speaker 2: is there any indication as to who they might be
34:37
Speaker 2: putting forward or where these candidates might be coming from.
34:41
Speaker 12: That's a very good question because as yet they haven't
34:43
Speaker 12: registered as a political party, and they also the Muslim
34:48
Speaker 12: Vote has yet to register itself as a significant third
34:51
Speaker 12: party organization either, whilst it's taking donations and that's just fine,
34:54
Speaker 12: but it'll need to get on with that.
34:57
Speaker 3: No, we don't.
34:58
Speaker 12: Even though the person who's called him self the convener
35:01
Speaker 12: of this movement, shaped Kawi, he has said that they
35:04
Speaker 12: would announce candidates this week. I don't actually see how
35:07
Speaker 12: that's possible. They might say who they would support beyond
35:11
Speaker 12: Fadom a payman, but who that is at the moment
35:14
Speaker 12: is unclear.
35:16
Speaker 3: I think that.
35:18
Speaker 12: It will be very interesting to see who they might
35:21
Speaker 12: throw their support behind. They're going to have to find
35:23
Speaker 12: names that resonate. They're going to have to find people
35:26
Speaker 12: with the same sort of profile as Dye Lee had
35:29
Speaker 12: sufficient to really eat into that primary vote, because they're
35:32
Speaker 12: going to have to get the likes of Tony Burke
35:34
Speaker 12: down from fifty one percent into the thirties if they're
35:37
Speaker 12: going to have a crack at these seats in Western Sydney.
35:41
Speaker 2: Interesting times, John rob from the Daily Telegraph, appreciate your
35:44
Speaker 2: time tonight. Well still ahead as the nation faces a
35:48
Speaker 2: cost of living crisis, there's another threat facing our supermarkets.
35:52
Speaker 2: Details on that soon and next a different vision for
35:56
Speaker 2: closing the gap.
35:57
Speaker 3: Warren Mundine with his thoughts that's coming up in just
36:00
Speaker 3: a moment.
36:04
Speaker 2: Well coming up soon why you could expect to pay
36:07
Speaker 2: even more for basic supplies at the supermarket. But first
36:11
Speaker 2: I want to talk about something we touched on yesterday
36:14
Speaker 2: where we discussed Senator Senator just Sino Nampajimp of prices
36:18
Speaker 2: vision for Indigenous affairs, which she describes as a second
36:22
Speaker 2: way to close the gap now that will be published
36:25
Speaker 2: in an essay in The Australians sixtieth anniversary edition at
36:29
Speaker 2: the weekend. The Senator in that essay will outline practical steps,
36:34
Speaker 2: including banning fly in fly out workers from indigenous communities
36:38
Speaker 2: where there are locals on welfare who could do those jobs.
36:42
Speaker 2: Joining me now as someone who supports the Senator's vision,
36:45
Speaker 2: Indigenous Advocate Warren Mundine Warren, thanks for joining me before
36:50
Speaker 2: we get to Senator Prices. Great to have you on
36:54
Speaker 2: the show. Before we get to Senator Price's vision, just
36:58
Speaker 2: talk to me about the state of Indigenous Indigenous affairs
37:01
Speaker 2: right now, particularly since the referendum.
37:07
Speaker 13: Look, the state of it is that the Albanese government
37:09
Speaker 13: had no plan B. They were so arrogant that they
37:13
Speaker 13: thought that they could push the voice through and it's
37:18
Speaker 13: now blatantly obvious they had no plan posts that you've
37:22
Speaker 13: seen the issues and problems that have risen across this country.
37:25
Speaker 13: And it's not only in the northern territories in Queensland,
37:28
Speaker 13: it's in West Australia, it's in South Australia, it's in
37:30
Speaker 13: New South Wales as well. And all they're doing at
37:34
Speaker 13: the moment is doing the same old, same old of
37:36
Speaker 13: just chucking money at things and voting against you know,
37:42
Speaker 13: looking at a vision that could move forward, which centered
37:45
Speaker 13: the Price and Senate a little and even Lydia Forbes
37:49
Speaker 13: supported in regard to a review and an audit of
37:53
Speaker 13: spending in programs.
37:55
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about Senator Price's vision now. She will
37:59
Speaker 2: outline in The Australian on Saturday some interesting ideas. I
38:03
Speaker 2: mentioned one of those which is that instead of having
38:05
Speaker 2: fly and fly out workers doing jobs in indigenous communities,
38:09
Speaker 2: local Indigenous people on welfare are given those jobs. She
38:13
Speaker 2: also talks about the need to move away from what
38:17
Speaker 2: she calls I think some negative aspects of indigenous culture,
38:21
Speaker 2: such as payback, such as attributing certain events to sorcery
38:29
Speaker 2: I think was the word she used. Just talk to
38:31
Speaker 2: me about some of the things she's outlined and your
38:34
Speaker 2: take on them.
38:36
Speaker 13: Well, in regard to the flying and fly out, you know,
38:39
Speaker 13: just as a beginning, we should have did this decade ago,
38:42
Speaker 13: and we should have, you know, been communities have been
38:45
Speaker 13: crying out for, you know, for this to happen.
38:49
Speaker 4: So you know, we've had the ridiculous situations.
38:52
Speaker 13: I saw in one community where it costs of fowls
38:55
Speaker 13: over a thousand dollars to replace a washer, which I
38:58
Speaker 13: can even do myself, and I'm got an expert on plumbing,
39:03
Speaker 13: and they had to fly a person in to change
39:06
Speaker 13: that washer.
39:07
Speaker 4: You know how ridiculous is that we should.
39:10
Speaker 13: Be working and upskilling the people who are living in
39:14
Speaker 13: those communities, but not only for doing helping the building
39:18
Speaker 13: of housing and so on, but also in regard to
39:21
Speaker 13: the repair and maintenance. It's not rocket science here where
39:25
Speaker 13: you've got to say three or four hundred Aboriginals sitting
39:27
Speaker 13: around unemployed, don't you think this would be a great
39:30
Speaker 13: idea to actually get them get up there, help their
39:33
Speaker 13: community grow and get things moving forward.
39:35
Speaker 4: One hundred percent support it.
39:37
Speaker 13: And also we need to, you know, how do we
39:39
Speaker 13: encourage Aboriginal people who have left those communities and working
39:42
Speaker 13: somewhere else to come back and contribute to those communities.
39:46
Speaker 13: You know, she spot on with this a set of
39:50
Speaker 13: price and as I said, it's not rocket science. Will
39:53
Speaker 13: work out when you've got a huge pool of potential employees.
39:56
Speaker 13: Let's start there, Let's start getting in their skilling up
39:59
Speaker 13: processes getting those into those jobs. And also she's right
40:03
Speaker 13: about in regard to certain things, every civilization in the
40:08
Speaker 13: world have moved on from the days. You know, we
40:11
Speaker 13: don't be in Western society. We don't burn witches anymore.
40:16
Speaker 13: We don't have laws that are discriminatory against lesbians and
40:22
Speaker 13: gays and transcend transsender.
40:25
Speaker 4: Purple and everything like that. We got rid of all
40:27
Speaker 4: those laws.
40:28
Speaker 13: We don't have laws that are bigotry against Aboriginal people anymore.
40:32
Speaker 13: Societies grow and move on, and you can't have a
40:36
Speaker 13: basis of a payback which endlessly brings a cycle of
40:41
Speaker 13: violence within these communities. So say, look, she's right. You know,
40:45
Speaker 13: we've got to have one law in this country. That's
40:48
Speaker 13: the Australian law, and everyone should be abiding by those laws.
40:52
Speaker 2: One of the leading Voice architects, Megan Davis, has vowed
40:55
Speaker 2: to continue the campaign to implement the Ularus statement from
40:59
Speaker 2: the heart Warren. This continual push to do that, especially
41:04
Speaker 2: in light of the rejection of the Voice, is that
41:07
Speaker 2: not just going to lead to more division, Halo.
41:12
Speaker 4: It's not.
41:13
Speaker 13: We've already got this division, and where is that division
41:15
Speaker 13: coming from? It is coming from the Yes campaigners. You know,
41:18
Speaker 13: I'm glad that there's such a supporters of democracy. Well,
41:22
Speaker 13: in democracy, when the people make a decision, and a
41:25
Speaker 13: very clear decision, you know, sixty over sixty percent to
41:29
Speaker 13: thirty nine percent of people voted against the Voice, you know,
41:34
Speaker 13: so let's get let's get on and start doing things
41:36
Speaker 13: that really work.
41:37
Speaker 4: You know.
41:37
Speaker 13: Peter mallon Arkus is the bloke who I worked for
41:40
Speaker 13: in the past, the Premier.
41:41
Speaker 4: Of South Australia.
41:42
Speaker 13: He is a fool for continuing to push for the
41:46
Speaker 13: Voice in that in that state because ninety percent of
41:49
Speaker 13: Aboriginals have rejected that they already had an election. Percent
41:53
Speaker 13: of Abiginals in that state rejected the Voice to the
41:56
Speaker 13: South Australian Parliament. And yet they're the arrogance and the
42:00
Speaker 13: vision that these people are calling and the waste the
42:03
Speaker 13: money for people to sit around a table and have a.
42:05
Speaker 4: Talk fest is just insane.
42:07
Speaker 13: Victoria's in the the same place the first People's Assembly
42:12
Speaker 13: they call it down there, only seven percent of Apisinals
42:16
Speaker 13: voted for it. Ninety three percent did not vote. You know,
42:20
Speaker 13: when are they going to listen to the silence of
42:22
Speaker 13: Aboriginal people to say, stop wasting your money. Stop setting
42:25
Speaker 13: up these elite organizations that do not do anything for
42:29
Speaker 13: Abiginal people except sit around a table and have talk fests.
42:32
Speaker 13: We want practical outcomes and just center prices. Right on
42:35
Speaker 13: this one. I got a paper and I'm doing a
42:37
Speaker 13: presentation next week at the Center for Independent Studies and
42:41
Speaker 13: we're going to be talking about Australia after the referendum.
42:44
Speaker 4: And I got my four pillars that need to go forward.
42:47
Speaker 4: That's education.
42:48
Speaker 13: Every kid's got to be going to school and getting
42:51
Speaker 13: educated and completing their schooling. States and territories have been
42:55
Speaker 13: dragging their feet on this for decades, dealing with economic anticipation.
43:00
Speaker 13: How do we get jobs and that And one of
43:02
Speaker 13: the biggest things is average fifty five percent of Australia's
43:06
Speaker 13: land mass.
43:06
Speaker 4: But they can't own a home on their own land.
43:08
Speaker 13: We've got to be able to change that legislation so
43:11
Speaker 13: they can have their own homes, they can invest in
43:13
Speaker 13: their own businesses on their own country and move forward
43:16
Speaker 13: and get jobs that these these people can have and
43:20
Speaker 13: have economic prosperity and economic development on their lands.
43:23
Speaker 4: And the third thing, of course is crime.
43:26
Speaker 13: We've got to stop pushy footing about crime. This has
43:30
Speaker 13: been going on for decades, and I look at I
43:33
Speaker 13: look at the Prime Minister, and I look at the
43:35
Speaker 13: Minister Bernie, and I look at these people who sit
43:37
Speaker 13: around that in that parliament. Women and children and men
43:41
Speaker 13: are being raped and murdered and attacked every day of
43:47
Speaker 13: the week and these communities, and yet these folks just
43:50
Speaker 13: sit around the table and all they do is toss
43:52
Speaker 13: Bunny around, don't meet their targets, and it's totally ridicou.
43:56
Speaker 4: And the last one, of course, is governance.
43:58
Speaker 13: We've got to make people accountable for the money that
44:00
Speaker 13: they're spending, and we're spending billions of dollars on it.
44:04
Speaker 4: I'm disgusted now, but discover it all right.
44:06
Speaker 2: I'm just going to have to stop there because we've
44:08
Speaker 2: got to go to a break. But everything you've said,
44:10
Speaker 2: I think makes a lot of sense. I think there'll
44:12
Speaker 2: be a lot of people watching tonight who will absolutely
44:15
Speaker 2: agree with you, and we'll look forward to reading Senator
44:18
Speaker 2: Price's words in The Australian at the weekend. Warren Mundean,
44:21
Speaker 2: appreciate your time tonight. Well after the break, the shipping
44:25
Speaker 2: and trucking crisis that's threatening to exacerbate the already tough
44:28
Speaker 2: cost of living crisis plus retailers hit back at the
44:32
Speaker 2: New South Wales government's ANZAC day trading band. I'll catch
44:35
Speaker 2: up with Phil Thompson himself a veteran, for.
44:37
Speaker 3: His take on the move in a moment.
44:42
Speaker 2: Welcome back, Let's bring in the panel LNP MP Philip
44:45
Speaker 2: Thompson and Spectator Australia columnist Terry Barnes.
44:49
Speaker 3: Gents, welcome.
44:50
Speaker 2: We could soon be facing empty shelves and price hikes
44:55
Speaker 2: as Australia struggles with a truck driver shortage. This is
44:58
Speaker 2: at the same time shipping crisis is unfolding in the
45:01
Speaker 2: Red Sea and in Asia. According to a survey from
45:05
Speaker 2: the International Road Transport Union, there are currently I was
45:08
Speaker 2: staggered to read this twenty six thousand and forty nine
45:13
Speaker 2: vacant truck driver positions in Australia.
45:16
Speaker 3: Terry.
45:17
Speaker 2: If we don't have truck drivers, we don't have trucks,
45:19
Speaker 2: and if we don't have trucks, we don't have items
45:21
Speaker 2: on our shelves in the stores.
45:23
Speaker 3: This is pretty serious. Well that's right, James.
45:27
Speaker 14: Trucks and lorry drivers are the backbone of our supply chain,
45:32
Speaker 14: not just in the cities but right around Australia and
45:35
Speaker 14: when you've got twenty thousand drivers down and that's a
45:38
Speaker 14: real pressure on that supply chain and that flows through
45:40
Speaker 14: in terms of the cost of goods, the cost of transport,
45:42
Speaker 14: cost of delivery, and really there's no quick instant fixed
45:46
Speaker 14: to this, let's be honest about it, but it needs
45:48
Speaker 14: to be dealt with in the sense that we have
45:51
Speaker 14: denigrated blue collar work trades.
45:54
Speaker 4: Truck driving is a trade.
45:56
Speaker 3: It's a very honorable trade.
45:57
Speaker 14: Because we've had this obsession for decades about getting our
46:00
Speaker 14: kids into UNI but the world of artificial intelligence, they're
46:04
Speaker 14: going to be dead end jobs, dead ened opportunities for
46:07
Speaker 14: those UNI educated kids. Now, I think we should be
46:10
Speaker 14: actually encouraging our kids to go into areas like trucking
46:14
Speaker 14: and other trades because that's where the money is, but
46:16
Speaker 14: that's also where the career opportunity is going to be
46:17
Speaker 14: the future.
46:19
Speaker 3: Let's just make truckies great again.
46:21
Speaker 2: James, Well, well, in fact, that's actually I mean, you laugh.
46:24
Speaker 2: But the industry has said we need to start honoring
46:28
Speaker 2: our truck drivers and also find a way to get
46:30
Speaker 2: more women into driving trucks because otherwise we are going
46:34
Speaker 2: to have a problem. Now at the same time as
46:36
Speaker 2: we've got a trucking crisis. Philip, we have a problem
46:39
Speaker 2: with goods coming via ship. Ships are being forced to
46:42
Speaker 2: take a longer route around the tip of South Africa
46:44
Speaker 2: because of the threat posed by Houti rebels in the
46:47
Speaker 2: Red Sea. And there's reportedly a bottleneck in Singapore at
46:50
Speaker 2: the same time because Chinese companies fearing tariffs under a
46:54
Speaker 2: possible Trump administration, are rushing to export goods to the
46:58
Speaker 2: US before he takes office. So all of this is
47:01
Speaker 2: adding weeks to trips, meaning ossies are experiencing delays for
47:04
Speaker 2: up to a month for some deliveries. So Philip, I
47:07
Speaker 2: wanted to talk to you about the impact this might
47:10
Speaker 2: have on the fight on inflation.
47:14
Speaker 4: Yeah.
47:14
Speaker 7: Well, firstly, anything that you have for dinner tonight, you
47:18
Speaker 7: should be thanking a trucking because they are the ones
47:21
Speaker 7: that got the food from the paddock to your plate.
47:25
Speaker 7: When you're talking about we've got terrorist action happening in
47:28
Speaker 7: the Red Sea with the Hooties and what they're doing there,
47:32
Speaker 7: and I know that they're elements they are combating this
47:35
Speaker 7: terrorist action. We have inflation going through the roof, and
47:39
Speaker 7: anytime that there's a delay, whether it's through the Singaporean
47:43
Speaker 7: route or whether it's through the Red Sea, you're going
47:45
Speaker 7: to add that cost to that delay onto the consumer,
47:49
Speaker 7: So that product that you're buying or what you're purchasing
47:54
Speaker 7: from your supermarket, all the prices will start to go up.
47:58
Speaker 4: Now that's not good.
48:00
Speaker 7: We don't want that because that it contributes to the
48:02
Speaker 7: high inflation that we're already facing. Now you've got a
48:04
Speaker 7: government that is rewarding itself in high fiving themselves saying
48:08
Speaker 7: that they're back in the black, but the home budget
48:11
Speaker 7: is not in the black and people are doing it
48:13
Speaker 7: tough and the government needs to be serious and start
48:15
Speaker 7: addressing these concerns.
48:17
Speaker 2: A good point just onto another issue here in New
48:20
Speaker 2: South Wales. The Premier Chris Mins yesterday announced an Anzac
48:24
Speaker 2: Day retail ban that would come into effect next year
48:28
Speaker 2: in an effort to crack down on what he called
48:30
Speaker 2: creeping commercialism. But the move's been slammed by some, particularly
48:34
Speaker 2: in regional areas where you are, Philip, who say that
48:38
Speaker 2: large retailers are essential. They argue people still have to
48:41
Speaker 2: buy food and other supplies on Anzac Day. Philip, you're
48:45
Speaker 2: a veteran, what do you think is the ban a
48:48
Speaker 2: good idea.
48:52
Speaker 7: Well in face value. It is the freedoms that we
48:57
Speaker 7: enjoy today are on the back of hard for battle,
49:00
Speaker 7: wars and sacrifice our defense members, veterans and their families
49:04
Speaker 7: have made and this is one of our most sacred days.
49:07
Speaker 7: This was on the back of in New South Wales,
49:10
Speaker 7: right through the path where Anzac Day was going to
49:13
Speaker 7: have their march that happens every year.
49:17
Speaker 4: There was a concert.
49:18
Speaker 7: There was a concert that was going to disrupt. There
49:20
Speaker 7: was a concert that was going to have music louder
49:23
Speaker 7: than the pipes and drums and the march itself. So
49:26
Speaker 7: this is what spurred the New South Wales government into
49:29
Speaker 7: action because it happened again.
49:32
Speaker 2: I just got to interrupt you. We've got to go,
49:34
Speaker 2: but I appreciate your thoughts on that. Sorry to cut
49:37
Speaker 2: you off, but we've run out of time. Thanks to
49:40
Speaker 2: both of you for joining me, and thank you to
49:42
Speaker 2: you for joining me. Tonight's coming right up is the
49:44
Speaker 2: Bottleport