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Born to Serve with Mary Bess Johnson | Episode #504 · Legacy Living with Dr. Gloria Burgess

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to today's show, Legacy Living, Make Your
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  Speaker 1: Life Count. I'm your host, Doctor Gloria Gloria Burgess, international
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  Speaker 1: leadership expert and trusted advisor. Welcome to Legacy Living, Make
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  Speaker 1: Your Life Count. I'm so delighted that you join me today.
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  Speaker 1: I have a very special guest with us today. Her
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  Speaker 1: name is Mary Bess Johnson. I hope you will be
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  Speaker 1: inspired by our conversation. Mary Bess is joining us today
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  Speaker 1: from her home in beautiful upstate South Carolina, where she
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  Speaker 1: lives with her husband, Chris. Mary Bess is an amazing
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  Speaker 1: person and most importantly, she is an inspiring woman of God.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait for her to share her remarkable journey
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  Speaker 1: and story with you. In her own words, Mary Bess
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  Speaker 1: is on a journey, a journey of self growth. In
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  Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, she gave up retirement to join the John
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell team. At that time, her singular thought was all
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  Speaker 1: about helping others grow and fulfilling God's purpose for her
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  Speaker 1: own life. Now, Mary Bess has been helping individuals and
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  Speaker 1: organizations improve for decades, and she is passionate about encouraging
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  Speaker 1: and helping new team members on the John Maxwell team. There,
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  Speaker 1: she serves as a peer teaching partner and team leader
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  Speaker 1: on the President's Advisory Council. She says, this is the
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  Speaker 1: perfect way to live out my heart's desire to serve others.
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  Speaker 1: Mary Best not only enjoys serving on the John Maxwell team,
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  Speaker 1: she also enjoys being an entrepreneur, serving her clients, serving
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  Speaker 1: as a community volunteer, and offering humorous wisdom to her grandchildren,
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  Speaker 1: all seven of them. Today's topic is living a life
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  Speaker 1: of significance. Now that's a topic that is near and
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  Speaker 1: dear to my heart and I can't think of a
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  Speaker 1: better person, a better leader, a better human being to
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  Speaker 1: address this topic than Mary Bess. I met Mary Best
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  Speaker 1: several years ago when I was attending the International Maxwell
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  Speaker 1: Certification Conference in Orlando, Florida. When I met Mary Best,
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  Speaker 1: I just knew there was something very special about her.
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  Speaker 1: And when I had an opportunity to have a conversation
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  Speaker 1: with her, she spoke so passionately about her life, about
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  Speaker 1: her purpose. I mean, she was just glowing. So I
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  Speaker 1: can't wait to host this incredible, amazing and lovely human being,
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  Speaker 1: my friend, colleague and mentor, Mary Bess Johnson. Now, before
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  Speaker 1: I bring her on, I just want to take a
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  Speaker 1: moment to connect the dots between today's topic on living
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  Speaker 1: a life of significance and legacy living. Now, there are
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  Speaker 1: many ways that living a life of significance connects to
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  Speaker 1: legacy living, which you'll hear more about later. For now,
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  Speaker 1: just let me say that legacy living is a way
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  Speaker 1: of being, being, a way of living and moving through
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  Speaker 1: the world so that we make the conscious choice to
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  Speaker 1: be the difference we want to see in the world.
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  Speaker 1: We make that conscious choice right here and right now,
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  Speaker 1: not in some distant future way out there.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: We make that.
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  Speaker 1: Conscious choice day in and day out, three sixty five,
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  Speaker 1: twenty four seven. Now, I'll say more about that later. Now,
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  Speaker 1: let me introduce you to my friend and colleague and mentor,
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  Speaker 1: Mary Bess.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, Mary Bess, I want to welcome you to my
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  Speaker 4: show and thank you so much for agreeing to be
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  Speaker 4: a guest.
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  Speaker 2: Could you just please say your name and where you're
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  Speaker 2: from for us.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, my name is Mary Bess Johnson and I live
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  Speaker 5: in Pendleton, South Carolina. It's in upstate Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: All right, excellent, Thank you and Mary Vess.
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  Speaker 4: I know that you have just a lot to share
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  Speaker 4: with us today, but I want to begin by asking
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  Speaker 4: you what does it mean to live in God's will
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  Speaker 4: for your life?
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  Speaker 5: For me, it means that I that I want to
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  Speaker 5: seek God's will for every move that I make and
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  Speaker 5: everything that I do, and knowing that I am just
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  Speaker 5: living to be the person that He intended me to
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  Speaker 5: be for one thing and to always Uh, it's not
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  Speaker 5: approval that I seek, No, no, it's not. It's just
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  Speaker 5: just just to be just to walk with the Lord
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  Speaker 5: and to be in his will. And because his will
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  Speaker 5: is perfect and his timing is perfect, and in as
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  Speaker 5: long as I am staying in that place, then it
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  Speaker 5: keeps the stress out and the strife and and everything
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  Speaker 5: that can that can you know, come from that that
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  Speaker 5: place of indecision or not knowing. There's so I find
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  Speaker 5: so much peace in knowing the Lord and having a
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  Speaker 5: personal relationship with Jesus. There's first of all, there's so
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  Speaker 5: much peace in that. And then because I want to
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  Speaker 5: live in God's will and being God's will, then it's
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  Speaker 5: just it's kind of like simple. I think sometimes we
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  Speaker 5: complicate it, but for me sometimes it's just like a
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  Speaker 5: simple thing. It's just like, hey, mayor Bess, you love
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  Speaker 5: the Lord, he loves you.
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  Speaker 2: Just walk with him.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and Mary bes it is simple. It's very simple
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  Speaker 4: because we're strong Christians, were very firm in our faith,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, sometimes people who are new to the faith,
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  Speaker 4: they really don't have a clue about what we're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so can you just say a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: More about what God's perfect timing is and being the
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  Speaker 4: person that God intended you to be?
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  Speaker 5: You know, Glory, I really appreciate that that you mentioned that,
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  Speaker 5: because I can remember many years ago if you had
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  Speaker 5: said those same words to me, I did wouldn't have
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  Speaker 5: a clue as to what you meant, not really, So
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  Speaker 5: until I really had started this personal relationship with Jesus,
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  Speaker 5: not just knowing about God, not just going to church,
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  Speaker 5: not all of that routine like I grew up doing.
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  Speaker 5: But when when it really got down to that real
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  Speaker 5: relationship and I realized that that God was just such
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  Speaker 5: a such a friend to me and that he had
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  Speaker 5: my best interests. Of course, you know I was. I'm
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  Speaker 5: created in his image. And even that's hard for some
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  Speaker 5: folks to understand, especially those who who maybe are new believers,
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  Speaker 5: and they're saying, how in the world can I be
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  Speaker 5: created in God's image? Well, you know what, because scripture
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  Speaker 5: tells us that, and that's how that's that's another part
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  Speaker 5: of the simplicity of it. But but for me, when
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  Speaker 5: when I have that love relationship that I feel with
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  Speaker 5: the Lord, I I just want it's like, well, let's see,
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  Speaker 5: I know, it's like parent child relationship. Maybe when the
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  Speaker 5: child and wants to please the parent. No, the child
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  Speaker 5: loves a parent. The child doesn't even have to think
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  Speaker 5: about whether they please the parent or not. I don't
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  Speaker 5: have to think about whether I please God or not.
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  Speaker 5: I love him, He loves me, and so staying close
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  Speaker 5: to him, I'm just so comfortable in knowing that, and
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  Speaker 5: then in staying in his will. Typically for me, if
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  Speaker 5: I'm getting out of God's will, oh I know it.
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  Speaker 5: I mean I'm going to start feeling really uncomfortable. And
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  Speaker 5: you know that's just that that Holy Spirit in me
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  Speaker 5: speaking to me.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, when you're in God's will because you're
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  Speaker 4: walking in joy, you're walking in peace, and when you
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  Speaker 4: get out of it, out of his well, you get
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  Speaker 4: something inside of you. Yeah, were beside you. However that
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  Speaker 4: shows up for you, the Holy Spirit talking to you.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, very uncomfortable. It's just that it's that intuitive,
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  Speaker 5: that conviction that that I just know now that has
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  Speaker 5: developed over the years too. I mean that was not
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  Speaker 5: an instant thing with me, but I think just staying
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  Speaker 5: staying in God's word and even you know, music, any
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  Speaker 5: kind of praise, any kind of Christian music, from the
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  Speaker 5: old hymns that I've been singing all my life to
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  Speaker 5: contemporary Christian music. It's all. It all has saturated me
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  Speaker 5: through the years with God's word and the goodness and
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  Speaker 5: his girl.
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  Speaker 2: Amen hallelujah.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I often think about where would we be
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  Speaker 4: without the Lord, and where would we be without his
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  Speaker 4: grace and mercy, And so knowing that you are walking
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  Speaker 4: with the Lord and listening and you know that He's
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  Speaker 4: ordering your steps is so significant. And we have been
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  Speaker 4: in the same organization, the John Maxwell Team, for a
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  Speaker 4: number of years.
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  Speaker 2: That's how we met.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm wondering, Mary Bess, if you could just share
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  Speaker 4: a little bit about what living a life of significance
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  Speaker 4: means to you.
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  Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I've got to tell the listening
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  Speaker 5: audience that Gloria was my table host when I attended
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  Speaker 5: my very first John Maxwell Team International Certification event, and
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  Speaker 5: that was in August of twenty sixteen, and so I
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  Speaker 5: met her that day and just absolutely loved her from
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  Speaker 5: day one. But the really wonderful thing that has been
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  Speaker 5: such a lesson to me is that we were doing
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  Speaker 5: our five minute table talk, and my five minutes went over.
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  Speaker 5: And so when the buzzer goes off, those of you
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  Speaker 5: are listening. When the buzzer goes off, you stop talking. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: So I stopped talking, And when everybody around the table
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  Speaker 5: finished with their table talk, the first thing Gloria said
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  Speaker 5: to me was, now, Mary, Bess, would you like to
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  Speaker 5: finish and tell us that last little piece of your story.
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  Speaker 5: Oh that meant so much to me, so very much,
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  Speaker 5: And that's just been that's a huge lesson to me,
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  Speaker 5: and listening and knowing that even with a time frame
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  Speaker 5: like that, at a time constraint, that we still have
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  Speaker 5: important things that we want to say, and for.
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  Speaker 6: Some of us, it just takes us longer to saying, oh,
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  Speaker 6: my goodness, but living a life of significance, oh yes, hey,
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  Speaker 6: I have as long as I can remember, my whole life.
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  Speaker 5: Just wanted to just feel like I was making a
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  Speaker 5: difference and changing the world and this and that, and
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  Speaker 5: I kind of used to think of it in such
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  Speaker 5: broader terms until I joined the John Maxwell team in
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  Speaker 5: twenty sixteen. I came out of retirement. I had had
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  Speaker 5: a long, successful Mary Kay Cosmetics career and I had
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  Speaker 5: been retired for a number of years and started feeling
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  Speaker 5: that nudge. And what the nudge was was God saying,
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  Speaker 5: all right, all right, when I'm not done with you yet,
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  Speaker 5: you know it doesn't matter. I'm hired. I've got more
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  Speaker 5: I want you to do. And you know, Gloria, that's
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  Speaker 5: that is humbling for me to say that. That is
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  Speaker 5: not an ego or an eye thing like, oh, I've
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  Speaker 5: got so much I could know. No, no, no, not. That
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  Speaker 5: is a very humbling thing to know that you have
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  Speaker 5: been used in some way or another in the past,
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  Speaker 5: that God has used you to influence others. And so
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  Speaker 5: when you know that there's still room for that, oh
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  Speaker 5: my goodness just stirred within me and I just knew
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  Speaker 5: something was like, oh, got to get back out there.
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  Speaker 5: So that's when I joined the team. And for me,
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  Speaker 5: living a life of significance is not about me. Although
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  Speaker 5: I am on the disc personality disc I'm an I
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  Speaker 5: personality and a d SO, but it's not about me,
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  Speaker 5: it's about the other person. And everywhere I go, I
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  Speaker 5: just want to add value to other people. I just
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  Speaker 5: want to smile, I want to put a joke. I
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  Speaker 5: want to do something that makes that person feel better,
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  Speaker 5: makes that person feel important. And it's not that I
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  Speaker 5: have to do big, huge things at all. But I
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  Speaker 5: know that, I know that, I know that one little
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  Speaker 5: ripple can just create an ocean of wave and change. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: and that if just one person is influenced by something
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  Speaker 5: that I have said or helped them with, oh that's
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  Speaker 5: that's that's wonderful. So it's it's just living living life
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  Speaker 5: to it's fullest. It doesn't matter my age. Does it
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  Speaker 5: matter that you know I'm old, dist dirbed? Not really,
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  Speaker 5: no you're not, but you know it, really that does
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  Speaker 5: not matter. All all ages. Children can live a life
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  Speaker 5: of significance. Children can have a positive influence.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I really believe that too, very best.
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  Speaker 4: And I know that you have added so much value
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  Speaker 4: to me personally and so much value to the people
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  Speaker 4: in your community. And I'm sure folks that I'm not
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  Speaker 4: even aware of. And so I wonder if you could
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  Speaker 4: tell us a little bit about your own journey with
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  Speaker 4: your self growth maybe with the John Maxwell team or beyond.
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  Speaker 2: And talk a little bit about your career journey as well.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the the self growth, really intentional self growth started gosh,
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  Speaker 5: you know, in the seventies, eighties, and I guess well,
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  Speaker 5: really probably more into the eighties when I read Stephen
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  Speaker 5: Covey's Seven Habits of Highly Effective People. That was one
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  Speaker 5: of the first things that really got got me going
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  Speaker 5: on self growth and thinking into other areas like that.
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  Speaker 5: I tell you, I've always kind of been been a
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  Speaker 5: deep thinker. I remember even as a as a teenager,
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  Speaker 5: you know, really just getting to thinking about all sorts
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  Speaker 5: of things that some people didn't have a clue to
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  Speaker 5: what I was talking about, but I could really get
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  Speaker 5: into some some thoughts. And I still I still am
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  Speaker 5: very much a deep thinker. I'm also very curious. So
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  Speaker 5: when when I was in my Mary Kay career, is
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  Speaker 5: when John Maxwell first came in alone he was doing
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  Speaker 5: leadership training for us with Mary Kay. Is when he
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  Speaker 5: was still at his church in San Diego, when he
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  Speaker 5: was still pastoring there back in the nineties, and I
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  Speaker 5: became very interested in everything he said. I joined the
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  Speaker 5: Tape of the Month club, you know, and I've got
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  Speaker 5: a bucket load of cassette tapes, but just really, really
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  Speaker 5: really loved him, and I used his leadership lessons every
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  Speaker 5: month that my sale I've had a sales meeting every
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  Speaker 5: single week for the Mary Kay Consultants, and once a
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  Speaker 5: month we had leadership night, and so I would have
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  Speaker 5: a leadership lesson. And mind you now, this is back
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  Speaker 5: in the late nineties, two thousand and I would present
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  Speaker 5: that leadership lesson in the my team would would participate
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  Speaker 5: in it. And then the actual John Maxwell team was
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  Speaker 5: started ten years ago in twenty eleven. So back in
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  Speaker 5: the day when I was following John, I didn't you know,
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  Speaker 5: there was no such thing as being certified. But I
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  Speaker 5: remember thinking it's so funny. You know, here I am
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  Speaker 5: in South Carolina. He's on the West coast in San Diego.
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  Speaker 5: And I can distinctly remember thinking, oh, I would love
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  Speaker 5: to work with John Maxwell, wow or for him, or
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  Speaker 5: you know. Then I said, but Mary Bess, you know
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  Speaker 5: he's on the West coast and you live in South
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  Speaker 5: Carolina and you're you're not you know, you're not twenty
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  Speaker 5: five and just charting off on a new job. So
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  Speaker 5: but that seed was planted Gloria. Absolutely, And so then
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  Speaker 5: the years went by, and in twenty sixteen I looked
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  Speaker 5: more into joining the team and so that that's when
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  Speaker 5: I decided to become certified and absolutely have just adored it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it seems like you have been around a lot
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  Speaker 4: longer than four years, five years, four and a half years, whatever.
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  Speaker 5: That is, five yeah, five in May.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean it seems like you are just
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  Speaker 4: one of the founding people and you know, no.
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  Speaker 7: Really yeah, yeah, you you add such value, like I said,
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  Speaker 7: not only to me, but to so many other people
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  Speaker 7: on the team, Mary Bess, you are just a giver.
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  Speaker 5: Well, thank you. And you know, it's funny when you
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  Speaker 5: say that, because I really hadn't thought about it. But
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  Speaker 5: it could be that because John Maxwell and his teachings
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  Speaker 5: and books, readings, everything have been such a big part
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  Speaker 5: of my life that when I transitioned into the being
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  Speaker 5: a team member, that I just brought a lot of
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  Speaker 5: that with me. I mean, because really, even when you
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  Speaker 5: think about I've talked to Mark Cole about it before,
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  Speaker 5: and you know, he's been with John for twenty years
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  Speaker 5: something and he remembers those days that he and John
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  Speaker 5: would go to the Mary Kay training, so he was
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  Speaker 5: going with him then, so he remembers all of that.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe if that didn't, I've just felt
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  Speaker 5: so at home, so very much at home.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Well, you know, I remember when I joined,
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  Speaker 4: I'm one of the founding partners that you know, and
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  Speaker 4: it just felt like I found my people like mind
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  Speaker 4: at people but totally different than me, and I brought
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  Speaker 4: a lot of things along from my.
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  Speaker 2: Early exposure to John Maxwell as well. So maybe that's it.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, Yeah, but I but I so appreciate
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  Speaker 5: you saying that, you know, I I'll always be one
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  Speaker 5: who will, you know, raise my hand and say, you know,
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  Speaker 5: send me, I'll go, I'll do or whatever. I'd love
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  Speaker 5: to help. But I always want my humility. I want
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  Speaker 5: to be humble about it. Always that I have the
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  Speaker 5: confidence to raise my hand and say send me, I'll go.
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  Speaker 5: I'll try, And I do want to, but I do
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  Speaker 5: want to do it in a humble way. So I
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  Speaker 5: certainly wouldn't want to be you know, I wouldn't want
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  Speaker 5: it to be perceived as oh, you know, you're just
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  Speaker 5: busting in and trying to be part of the No.
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  Speaker 5: I just I'm just feeling home well, thank you for saying.
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  Speaker 2: That, though, Oh, yes, you're so welcome. So Mary Best,
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  Speaker 2: I know that sometimes.
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  Speaker 4: Many people start the year with a particular word that
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  Speaker 4: influences them, that guides them, that grounds them in whatever way.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm wondering, do you have a word for your year?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I'm so glad you asked. Actually, I chose this
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  Speaker 5: word for twenty twenty. And it was towards the end
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  Speaker 5: of twenty nineteen that I was thinking on it. And
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  Speaker 5: I think I was on a call with Mark Cole
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  Speaker 5: one day actually, and he was talking about it too.
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  Speaker 5: So I really, for the last two or three years,
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  Speaker 5: I've had this sense of urgency about wanting to really
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  Speaker 5: really want to live a life of significance and to
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  Speaker 5: just do whatever I could. I'm sure that age has
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  Speaker 5: something to do with it, for Heaven's sake, you know,
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  Speaker 5: but never the less, I've had that sense of urgency.
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  Speaker 2: So I was.
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  Speaker 5: I was sitting there the day thinking through it that
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  Speaker 5: that day and I wrote down the word now, hm.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, commonly, like with with Nike or whoever
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: it is, you know, do it now, But it it
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: wasn't quite that for me, and I kept looking at
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: it or had written it out in ow and I
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: looked at it and I went, oh, my goodness, not
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: over with.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: M hmm mercy.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I I felt this confirmation and this peace
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: of that is exactly what I had been feeling. It's
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: not over with, and it had That word has motivated me.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: So so it's my word for this year too as well.
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: So what it really means to me is exactly what
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: it says here. Here we go back to simplicity. I
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: just love to see things simply and to not complicate things.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: And so now to me that means not over with.
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: It's it's not over with. That's basically right it. And
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: so you say, what's not over with? Well, the fact
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: that I want to live a life of significance that's
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: not over with, m or whatever I'm wanting to achieve. Uh,
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: it's not over with. So really I can apply that
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: to to anything. It gives. It gives me a sense
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: of like another moment, another chance, And it could be
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: literally that I you know, I died a night and
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: so but even still I want to live up until
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: I take my last breath with that feeling of it's
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: not over with, and it's you know, it's it's not
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: a driven thing at all. It's not like I strive
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: for this. It's just it's just how I feel. But
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: I had not quite been able to put my my
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: finger on what all what all I've been chewing on
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: for the last two or three years. But but you know,
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: the Lord just gave me that word. And then when
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: I when I looked not over with, I went, that
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: is exactly That's exactly how I feel. So I just
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: believe that we all can have that attitude, whether we
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: choose to or not. It helps me.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Yes, And so you you talked about significance, you talked
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: about the urgency to live your life, and you also
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: talked about humility.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: And I'm wondering, so not over.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: With to me says that God has his hand on you,
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: that he has more for you.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: And in my.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: Way of thinking, you know, it's not your business to
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: know what that is.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: You know, just just pay attention and walk and walk. Yes,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: He'll He'll keep ordering yourself.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: Right. I often think of it with with your your John,
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: your sweet husband, as a as a maestro conductor. I
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: just every time I think about God ordering my steps,
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: I see him well, even sometimes in the black tux
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: orchestrating our steps.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: Yes, oh my, I'll never think of God the same way.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: I know, what can you imagine? Oh gosh, but I do,
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: I really do. I couldn't tell you how many times
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: I thought, you know, when I think about God orchestrating
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: our steps, and I think about your John. So I
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: really do believe that. Of course, as the years go by,
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: I can look back now and see, oh my goodness,
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: how things unfolded. You know, this turned into this, and
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: then this happened, and this happened, and that. An encouragement
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: from me on that to listeners would be just to
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: trust and like Gloria just said, take that one foot
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: in front of the other and keep stepping forward. As
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: you step forward, when you take enough steps, you're going
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: to be able to look back and see how things
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: are unfolding.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, And I know when I'm in the middle of
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: something it sometimes doesn't make sense, but when I look back,
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: it looks like a straight line.
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yes, exactly.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: So Mary Bes, can you talk to us a little
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: bit about you know, I just know, just a teemy
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: little bit of the kinds of things that you're doing
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: in your community and how you're helping women, and can
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: you just talk to us a little bit about that
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: as well? As I see you as a very I'm
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: going to say creative and generative person. If you could
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: talk to us a little bit about your creativity, your interests,
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: and again how that's.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Flowing out of you and into the community as well.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: Oh my goodness. Well, I've always been very, as I
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: said earlier, very curious. I love to learn new things.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: I love to try new things. I am pretty much
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: a risk taker with something. So you know, when I
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: was sixty nine years old, I did a tandem jump
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: skydive and I loved it and that was so and
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't Yeah, I would not mind doing it again
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: at all. But so I'm interested in things like that.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: I am very creative. I'm creative as far as stitching
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: and anything like that, or I'm resourceful. I can think
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: of odd ways to fix something maybe you know, to
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: make it do or whatever. And as far as in
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: the community here, I will know one thing that I
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: did that's interesting to me that I have been involved
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: in the past. I am not right here in this community.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: We've moved here four years ago, but for a number
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: of years where I lived before, I was involved in
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: a quilt program at our church, Prayers for squares for
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: squares for prayer. I can't remember which way, but we
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: we would make quilts and just lap quilts and give
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: those two folks who were really going through a hard time.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: And so that program was very meaningful to me. And
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: because I did know how to sew and stitch and
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: all that, I could do that kind of thing. But
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: even when I when I don't know, I'll take a
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: stab at it to learn. You know, I'm always want
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: to say, hey, I don't know, but I'll find out,
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: or I don't know how to do that, but I'll
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: figure it out.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: Anybody taking a tandem jump at sixty nine is willing
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: to learn.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you think.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: I know, it isn't the truth. To me, that just
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: seems like you know, okay, well everybody does that, but
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: I guess not really.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: It's not everybody.
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: Oh my goodness. So I'm always just I look for
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: ways of doing something really in a fun way to
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: I do. I love to laugh and I love to
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: have fun. As far as what I'm doing here in
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: the community with women, for one thing is I'm involved
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: with a really beautiful nonprofit organization here who offers a
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: hand up and not a handout. And so their clients
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: who come to them have the opportunity to take classes
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: at their center, which are all volunteers. So they can
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: take classes in money management, anger management, diet, nutrition, parenting,
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: basic skills, real anything, just anything. And when they take
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: the course, the class and show up and do it,
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: they can earn dream dollars and then they can take
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: those dream dollars and they go to one of the
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: resell stores you know, it'd be like habitats resell that
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: sort of situation, and they can purchase goods because most
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: of these people are very very low income. And also
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: one thing that was really so much fun at Christmas,
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: they have this huge Santa Shop program. So all year
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: long businesses all of the area donate Christmas s gipts,
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: brand new toys and things for the Santa Shop. It's
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: really a very large amount of stuff, and so the
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: people can go shop in the Santa Shop when they
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: earn the dream dollars. They got to earn them, yeah,
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: not cool, and then what they do is they provide
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: them ways to earn. So I've been doing classes ZIM
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: classes with them now since about October, and we still
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: have one going right now. But I love to do that,
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: and you know, it's just it's volunteer, absolutely volunteer. Now
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: I do have a financial relationship with them too, because
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: I've done a lot of their leadership training and within
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: their staff. It's a pretty large organization, but that that's
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: how I serve here. I'm involved in our church, love that,
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: and in the community here. I'm a board member of
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: the Pendleton Historical Society Foundation. It's been around a lot
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: of history here where I live, and I'm excited about
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: to get it. Involved with a program at Colemson University
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: which is right here at Professor Thomas. Ronda Thomas has
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: started a number of years back, slowly but surely she's
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: making headway on it, and it's called the name of
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: the program is called my Name. She has learned when
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: she came to Clemson to be a professor that many
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: back in the late eighteen hundreds, most of the people
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: who built Clemson University were African Americans who were the
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: children of slaves or they were in prison and they
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: were allowed to help build and so many many of
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: them have been when they died, they were buried here
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: and she has been discovering their grave sites. So she
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: absolutely has a full blown program going down. It actually
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: is hiring someone to head it up. And I am
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: on the tap to a volunteer in the program. So
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: that's something else is really near and dear to my
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: heart right here in the back door.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: And then my husband, Oh my goodness, oh I love,
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, my husband. Yeah. And we have seven
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: grandchildren with three daughters and seven grandchildren.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Mercy, Well, you know you I want to be like
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: you when I grew up.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: I mean you are so involved and so engaged and
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: you find places you know, not only that's a right
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: fit for you, I mean God places you there, but
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: you also find a way to pour just to pour blessings.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Into into so many people.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: And you know, the people that we impact, like right
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: in front of us, they're gonna share and they're gonna
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: share and they're gonna share it and it just keeps
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: on rippling out. So I mean, your your.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Footprint, your fingerprint, your impress is just remarkable, very best.
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: You know, glory. One time, many many years ago, I
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: heard in a message one day the person said something
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: like I don't want I don't want to stand before
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: God when I die. I don't want to stand before
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: God and hear the words, oh, welcome home, my child,
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: good and faithful servant. Oh, but I had so much more.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I wanted you to do.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know that's almost got of like negative motivation,
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: but not really, not really, because that hit home with me. Yeah,
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: I do have We do have responsibility on this earth. Yes,
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: we do, not only responsibility for ourselves and our families,
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: but to serve others.
• 38:05
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: So I have a question for you.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: I know you've talked a lot about the work that
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: you have done on your intentional growth and your career
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: with Mary Kay. Were you ever a teacher in your
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: life but beyond like teaching your kids, which is a
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: huge responsibility.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's interesting that you asked me that. And
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: it's really strange because yesterday I was thinking something made
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: me think about I remember years ago when people would
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: say to me, now, are you a school teacher? And
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: I would say no, because I was in the corporate
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: I was working in the corporate world when I'm joined
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: Mary Kay in nineteen ninety one. I mean, yeah, I
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: was doing that and had been in that area for many,
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: many years, and really just joined mary Kay to and
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: relieve some stress on my job and just have some
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: fun and make a little extra money. Hey, that was fun.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: And so that was back in nineteen ninety one, and
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: I quit my job a year and a half later
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: to pursue Mary Kay full time. So it did turn
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: into a full time career for me. But that's funny
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: that you ask about teaching. I don't know what it is,
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: but I do like I do like to teach. I mean, yeah,
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: I mean, and that's that's one of the things I
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: like about training in leadership. Yeah, is the teaching part
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: of it?
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: Well, you're very good at it, And so maybe the
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: trick is not thinking about yourself as a teacher.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, No, that's weird.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: I love teachers.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: I think they have the most wonderful job on the
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: pl and we don't give them nearly enough, no credit
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: and respect.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: So I just think the world of teachers very best.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: We are just about at the end of our conversation
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: this day, which is a shame, because I would love
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: to just keep listening to you and learning from you.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: Is there anything that you wished I would have asked
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: you that I haven't asked you.
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: M not that I can think of right now, not
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: at all. As far as things that are coming up.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: My plate is full with family and my business and
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: my volunteer time and then Global Youth Initiative.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: It's goose.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: And you know your listeners might not, but you know
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: that I absolutely love your book. Pass it on. And
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: that's another thing. You know that that book means so
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: much to me. There's there's just it just strikes my heart.
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: It just hits my heart. And I think because I
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: grew up in the South in that era, and I
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: knew then when I was a little girl, I knew
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: it was wrong, but I didn't know why, but I
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: just knew it was wrong. When I'm in the department
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: store when the water fountains were in two different places,
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: I just didn't get it, and I just knew in
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: my heart that it was it was, it was wrong.
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: And so your book has just it's meant so much
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: to me. I'll tell you what, Laurie. It's given me
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: an opportunity to express what I just expressed to you
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: to someone that I don't know, to be able to
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: share the book with them, read the story to them
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: and then to be able to to just share how
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: much it means to me and how import it I
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: think it is. So I think, yeah, that's that's one
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: thing before we haven't talked about. And I know that's
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: about you and your bullet, but still it's it's our story. Yes,
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: it is our story.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: It is Mary Bess. I'm really glad you brought it up.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: I did not want to bring it up because this
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: is about you, and you know, I also just want
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: to thank you because you have been such a powerful
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: ambassador for this book and and you know, not only
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: about the book. It's really about I'm hoping, you know,
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: somebody listening will hear that it's our story.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Is it is not my story? It is our story?
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: Right, yes?
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: And sometime we keep saying this, but sometimes you know,
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: and maybe this podcast is a vehicle for it.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: We can talk about it, but I would love to
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: just have a deeper conversation with you about.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: The our story.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: Piece of it is our story, yes.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: And this is a story that our nation and I'm
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: going to say the world is involved in right now,
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: right now in a way that we.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Really have not been together in this conversation before. You
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, and it's so important.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: So thanks for all that you do and all that
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: you are, and thank you again for bringing it up.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm glad that I did bring it up.
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: It's interesting that I don't know that I've articulated it
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: that way before even in my mind. Just stand by
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: what I said about our story. But I'm just telling you, Gloria,
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: I can just I'm five years old and I'm in
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: the department store in Anderson South, and I'm looking up
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: at that the two water fountains, one that says white
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: and one that says colored, and I'm going, no, what, No,
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: my neighbor. I play with my neighbor. Yes, she's a
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: beautiful little brown skinned girl. I live out in the country.
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: And so it is our story. Yeah it is.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, my friend. Well, thank you again.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: Thank you if you are and do, and thank you
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: for just pouring life and you.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Know, giving life giving words.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: You know, they're like oxygen for people, and we need
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: we need that oxygen.
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: I'm so I'm so grateful and I'm so humble to
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: have been invited to just chat with you. Of course
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: you and I could talk till the cows came in.
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: We could.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: Mmm.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: So uplifting, so inspiring, so many pearls of wisdom. I
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: feel so blessed to know Mary Best Johnson. Clearly she
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: is a leader's leader. She makes a difference in her
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: own life and in the lives of so many others,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: in her own family and throughout the world, in her
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: work as a leader, as a certified John Maxwell coach,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: as a grandmother, and as a community servant. To learn
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: more about Marybest and her work, you can go to
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: her website, and that's www dot Marybest Johnson dot com.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Www dot Marybest, m A R Y B E. S. S. Johnson,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: j O h N S O N dot com. Now,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: if you are just joining us, I'm doctor Gloria and
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: this is Legacy Living. Make your Life Count. We just
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: heard from my very special guest, Mary Bes Johnson, entrepreneur,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: JMT coach and inspiring community servant. If you want to
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: make your life count, if you want to be the change,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: be the difference in your own life and in the
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: lives of others, be sure to listen to this episode
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: again and again. And hey, be sure to tell somebody
• 46:33
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• 46:39
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